How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo

Episode Date: March 6, 2023

Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1984 breakdancing film Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo. They dive deep into everything including the turbo rotating house dance, breakdancing mimes, flirting lessons, Ice-T’s rap, and more. (Originally released 10/22/2020)For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheerGo to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

Let me tell you a story about a group of kids who use the breakdancing skills to take down big biz. We saw breakin' two electric boogaloo, so you know what that means. Now it's time for how to discapade. Gonna have a good time celebrating failure, not just be a hater. Cause you know you wonder how to discapade. Let's walk in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made?

I am Tall John Shear. Boy oh boy, we have a great, great episode for you today. I am so excited to talk about Break into a movie of my youth. The film came out in 1984. And what do you need to know? Well, our main characters are back, and I'm talking of course about Kelly, Turbo and Ozone, but this time they're using their dance skills to save a local rec center. People, this movie is bananas, and I'm so excited to talk about it with my co-host

who I think loves breakdancing just as much as me. Please welcome Jason Manzuchus. Paul, I am thrilled to be here. I'm thrilled to be here for Break into Electric Boogaloo, which as a 12-year-old was a huge movie in my life. Same. This movie was massive. These two movies, well, Beat Street, Breaking and Break into Electric Boogaloo,

as a young kid who was obsessed with breakdancing, who would pull cardboard boxes out of the basement. We're back on this bullshit. Uh oh, she's already getting into it. She's already here. Coming in hot. So this was, you know, I have to admit, I really loved rewatching this movie.

I had a blast watching it, and so I'm excited to talk about this because I'm reunited with some of my best friends in the whole world, Ozone, Turbo and Kelly, you know? These are the heroes of our time. I mean, I was the same way I watch this movie a ton when I was a kid, but I don't even want to delay her entrance because not only are their hairstyles, not only are their outfits, but there is breakdancing, and we all know how our next co-host feels about breakdancing.

Please welcome June Dianne Raphael. How are you, June? I'm not well. I don't feel great. I did not like this. Wow. No, June, really, I thought this was right up your alley. No, it wasn't up my alley.

And actually, I'm going to start at the very beginning. I've never seen break-in. I've never seen break-in 2, Electric Boogaloo. Okay. Okay. And I, I mean, obviously, I recognize Kelly from Ninja 3. Oh, my God. I was so excited to see her.

We are now creating the Kelly verse. I love Kelly, but I want to start at the beginning. Like, is this a movie about breakdancing? Because I saw a couple breakdancing moves, and then I mostly saw like variations on the robot. Oh, boy. Oh, no. Really opening up.

Well, first of all, I will say this movie does no. This is such a controversial take. I'm sorry. I will say that this movie does no, doesn't really help the breakdancing movement in the opening sequence because they just do tight close-ups on hands and feet. And I believe that breakdancing is better seen in a wide shot. I agree.

I don't need to see a wrist or a foot. It looks way less impressive, and it makes me think they didn't have enough extras. They isolate all of the popping and locking. They isolate on individual body parts, rather than the whole person who is doing it. Yes. And that is, I agree, sometimes filmically, sometimes,

sometimes filmically this movie fails the wonderful performances. But nonetheless, I mean, you cannot deny that the turbo-rotating house dance, which is an incredible dance, I think, at the centerpiece of this movie, I think is incredible. And so many, there's so many, the breakdance battle is great. I mean, I don't know. We can get into it.

Wait, wait a second. We can get into it. We're gonna. We're gonna. The turbo house dance. Yeah. The turbo-rotating house dance. I mean, again, show me the dance.

All I saw, all these I saw was a gentleman, a young gentleman, walking around the walls of a house. No. Again, show me the dance. How can you say that? That is a show-stopping moment. You sound like the parents. June, you sound like the parents.

This isn't dance. What are they doing? What's this Stanley tells me about? Our daughter dancing in Paris. Darling, she doesn't even have the job yet. And I also understand that she's been back in the streets with that bozo or turbine or whatever the hell their names are. She isn't in the street, sweetheart.

She's volunteering. It's charity work. She is helping all those poor, little, underprivileged children. Yeah, well, I'm gonna do something about this nonsense. Well, darling, I don't know what you can do. Kelly's old enough to make her own decisions. I'm gonna find a way. Call her up.

Yes, dear. Get her over here for dinner. Yes, dear. I want to talk to that girl. Yes, dear. That's how I feel. Wow. And I love dance.

I love dance, but I did not. I didn't feel anything watching these dances. I didn't feel, um, I didn't feel connected. I didn't feel inspired. I didn't feel like I ever got the beat. Also, I'm going to say something. Say one other thing. When they were in group dances together, all doing the same thing,

practicing for the shows, um, just jamming at, at, you know, the, um, what is this place called? Miracles. Miracles. Jamming at miracles. Wait, Jean, can I, I'm sorry. Wait, but Paul, they were never in step with each other. Well, hold on, Jean.

I just want to ask you a question. I can't see you. We're on Zoom, but are you wearing a hard hat right now because you do sound like someone who wants to destroy miracles? Are you like operating surveying equipment? Uh, trying to destroy. Do you work for, um, do you work for Dudley or whatever his name was? I don't know.

Maybe I am. I don't know. Maybe I'm getting older. I feel like you are dangerously close. I feel like you're dangerously close. June to saying Kelly should go to Princeton. Well, I did think Kelly should have gone to Paris. She did.

I was sitting next to her. She said it. She said it. What was she doing? June, go to Princeton. Well, no. I don't know about Princeton. I said go to Paris.

No. Kelly should have gone to Paris. I don't mean to call you out. We were watching this movie last night. When the dad came in and go, I'm going to make you a deal. I'll write you a $200,000 check if you go to Princeton. You go, take the deal. Take the deal.

You were so. Because, because I didn't understand why she wouldn't have taken that check, handed it over to miracles and gone to Princeton. And she could still pursue her dance career. I mean, here's the thing. What? No, she had a dance career. None of those kids, none of those kids or the adults in the room seem to

recognize was that the infrastructure of that building was crumbling. They weren't, you know, they were in a hazardous. Agree. But they were raising the money to fix the structure. That's all. I don't disagree with that. It was, it was dangerous. But every single day they kept those kids in there.

Do we know this to be true? Like, yes, there was, there were engineering problems with that building. If you believe, if you believe the town council and all the corrupt city officials and the developers who are trying to develop that land, if you believe their narrative, if you side with the grownups, then, then the building is dangerous. Okay. Well, that's the joke of it all, by the way.

Like when, when one of those, when one of those suits says, hey kids, I'm sorry when that woman says, I know you want to save your space. When she calls them kids. I mean, they are, they are also adults. Yeah. There's a lot of adults. There's a lot of children though. And what I like, and I will say one of the things that I really love about this

movie is that when they have group events, like when they're, when they walk through miracles, when they do big group dances at the end, the end show, there's tons of like actual little kids who they focus on and let, let us see them dancing. And they're not great breakers. They're not great at break dancing. Oh, I disagree. Some of them are.

That little kid, that little kid. That little kid's amazing. That little kid was amazing. But there's a couple of other like smaller children who are just trying. And I love that. And there's also weirdly older people who are dancing. Like, like they kind of are very inclusive at miracles, which is a bit of a miracle in that time.

I was going to say that I said that to June last night, this film is incredibly inclusive. And it all kind of starts at the top. But I think to kind of address what June is saying, I also agree that there are some things that are out of step in this world. When we first have our opening rap that turns into this giant musical number, it is off key. Like that is a bad rap. Like that rap makes really like it is a stutter step rap.

Yes. But then it breaks into this giant musical number. And I was like, I wanted to ask you both, what's the reality here? Is it a musical because never in the world does it open up to a musical again? This is what I was going to say because this coming very soon after the Cats episode. So we talked a lot in Cats about what a mess it was, how much there was just singing for no reason. And for me, I was like, why is what was happening in Cats really bothered me? But the same thing is happening here.

It'll be a musical dance number and then a barely a couple of lines of dialogue and then straight into another. Sometimes they cut from a dance number to another dance number. Like the turbo rotating house dance number. Like the immediate cut to is a dance scene in the disco or in the nightclub. And so like it's clumsy in the sense that it's overwhelmingly just dance routines, montage dance routines. But I still felt like and I came down to this. The thing that was we kept talking about in terms of cats was how much there was just no joy in what anybody was singing or dancing or doing. And in this movie, I felt like so much joy.

Too much though. Dancing wasn't always. What did you say? Too much joy. Too much joy? Wow. Too much joy. Wow.

Yeah. Too much joy. Not enough thought, not enough like strategy, not enough like critical thinking. Wait, hold on. But didn't you just love it again? Didn't you love that break and brings everyone together? I mean, literally everyone in the world loves breaking. I mean, we had every type of person out in the street.

We had cops. We had telephone worker employees. We had gardeners. We had seniors. I even saw a doctor in a lab coat in the background getting in on the action. Well, I will say the one thing that I really didn't care for because it really stressed me out was that hospital is going to have a lot of complications because a lot of their patients who should have remained bedridden got up and danced quite a bit. Well, by the way, but the break and brought them back to life. It seemed like it seemed like that man was dead on the operating table. Maybe it was a dress and break and one, but the whole mission of miracles is that they're keeping at risk kids off the streets by teaching them how to dance.

And I guess box also. Well, that was that was true. That was true. The rec center seemed like the person was teaching boxing was also like the head of the break dance department. It seemed like he was. Well, and also once the break dancer started a break dance routine, a lot of the boxers joined in. And I was like, I understand that I understand that a rec center might have like, Oh, there's boxing classes. There's dance classes. There's this classes. There's that.

I just don't believe they all do them all together at once. Well, but didn't you think it was odd that Kelly Kelly comes from, I guess, New York, working on Broadway as a chorus girl and a bad show. She goes back to LA. Her parents are upset with her. She comes and sees miracles, which is this to June's point. I don't agree with her crumbling building. And and at one point she says to her old boyfriend, Ozan, she's like, Do you think it would be OK if I taught here as if like, there was some sort of like, like hierarchy that she couldn't maybe figure out how to get into. Like, yeah, you show up. Literally, you just brought 50 people into this.

You have a mime showing you. I don't think that there's like much of an interview process. She's like, I don't know. I mean, do I have enough talent to teach here? And you're another example. And again, you know, not knowing the source material and not knowing break in break in one, it's I might be speaking out of school. But I do what I what I never understood about Kelly. And this is what I wanted her to go to Paris, why I wanted her to go back to Princeton.

It didn't seem like the type of dance she was doing her. Her audition for that Paris show was beautiful and wonderful. And she's a very good dancer. It seemed like she loved doing that type of dance, that there was nothing about this other type of dance. And honestly, I won't even degrade what I saw in the movie by calling it break dancing. Wow. I mean, ozone and turbo. And by the way, it was more boxing and more fighting and combative than than I know dance to be.

But well, they did do they did do a choreographed fight at one point when they literally like like the Michael Jackson video. Yeah, it didn't seem like Kelly really enjoyed doing that type of dancing over the type of like more contemporary dancing. She was doing in her audition. Well, I will say that Kelly like both just fine, which in that case go to where the job is in Paris, Paris. She was going to be a lead. She was going to be a lead. These kids depend on her. No, they don't actually.

That's my problem with the movie, Jason. The kids do not depend on her. She they they are going to be just fine with ozone and turbo and all of the other people they're going to be they're going to do. No, they're not. They need Kelly. They need Kelly and then Kelly brings her parents and her parents basically in a in a in a bit of a problematic way. It creates a white savior problem for this movie. But her dad gives the $50,000 that puts them over the edge and lets them save miracles.

And with the amount of press they were getting, they were going to someone was going to some white savior was going to come in and cut it. It's interesting. June, I think so powerfully identifies with Kelly that it is strangely, strangely positioning you in a very strange place inside of this movie. June literally is addressing this movie as if she had an opportunity to go to Paris and she did not choose it. And she turns kids and regrets it to this day. It's not just like go to New York and like be on this Broadway show, go to Paris, Paris. Go live in Paris to be a star. Are you kidding me?

But the kids will be all right. June, come on, June. What what great giant stars have attained huge success by being a lead in a play in Paris? Well, listen, it isn't a trajectory that I was like that familiar with. But I mean to to work and sustain yourself doing what you love to do and live in Paris. I mean, I just did not get it. I didn't understand it. I did like I did like at one point to speak to what June is saying about her not enjoying it.

There was a moment when they had to raise like $7000 right or at one point there's some smaller amount of money. We'll put on a show and someone's like, I'll teach break dancing. I'll get the costumes and Kelly goes, I'll run rehearsals. Like her. The only thing that she's adding is that she'll not even like not even like I will train you as like I'll run it. Like she'll be like, OK, guys, five o'clock. We got to be here. Let's go.

Use the person responsible for like pressing play on the the boom box, the boom box. And that's the other thing. Like at one point, it seems that they made $7000 in one day from just their car washes. If they had kept at that pace, they didn't have the time. By the way, that 30 days, they were given one month. By the way, Nate, Kylie did some research here. Apparently the mime brought in $4,500 in one day. Wow.

Yeah. So that mime actually. The mimes also have the time. If they were making $7000 a day for 30 days, they would have absolutely covered their. I don't know if they could have gotten that every single day. I mean, like I don't know how many car washes are usually only on the weekends. I don't know. Listen, if that group could pull in seven grand a day.

If Electro Rock shows up and starts another dance battle, you know, they might get interrupted one day. June is right. It would take 28 days. If they were making $7000 a day, it would take 28 days to make the right amount of money. But I would imagine they've tapped out their community after two or three days. Because like they'd have to really start expanding and then going way wide. But my point is this. My point is, if this group of scrappy kids can somehow, even in just the community they're in,

make seven grand in cash in one day, I trust and believe that they could absolutely come up with that money. You know what's interesting? And now I'm starting to think about it. I think that. It is time to think about it, Jason. Part of why I have such a fondness for this movie and part of why I'm so much less critical of it. Is that I saw it when I was one of the kids and so identified with the kids story. And so powerfully understood that this was a story about kids can challenge adults and win.

That kids can fight for the thing they believe in. Even if it is foolish, even if it is whatever, that they can fight adults, fight the people that are telling them what to do. Fight the people that are saying you can't do this, you don't belong here, this, that and the other. That's such a resonant theme for a kid. Just like the tagline says, if you can't beat the system, break it. Exactly. Amazing. So I think there's still a part of me that my access point is from a kid's point of view. So if I were to have seen it as an adult, I might feel June like you do from an adult's perspective.

Kelly is acting very irresponsible for her future. You guys, no, no, I watch this movie like Jason as a child. I didn't remember a lick of it. Oh, I remembered so much of this movie. I remember Ozone and Turbo and I wanted to be obviously like Turbo because he's the coolest. But I will say this, this movie is joy in a bottle. I mean, and I think to June's point, because it's not even fully clean, it's like nothing really makes sense. Like they are just like everybody seems like they're having so much fun. The dancing that is omnipresent, it makes everybody happy.

Like you said, the opening montage, when they're dancing through the streets, they dance from like an empty lot that they're all hanging out at and playing sports and whatever. Kelly meets up with them and then they dance all the way through town to miracles, accumulating hundreds of people along the way who are like, wait, we're dancing? Fuck, yes. Let me abandon my job. Let me abandon my car. Let me abandon my house. Let me abandon everything to join in. It feels like the movies that to me rip this off completely are the step up movies. Yes.

You know, the step up movies basically take this model. Without this, there's no step up. Yeah, add a competitive element to it because the step up movies are always like our dance crew versus your dance crew. And this was always like our dancers versus you, the bad guys, you know what I mean? The suits, the town, the city, the adults, you're not going to tell us we can't dance. And that I identify with. But that wasn't really the story though. It wasn't like you're not going to tell us we can't dance.

It was like, you're not going to tell us we can't dance in a building that will kill us. Not if. June, they didn't. They didn't. What did you see in that building that looked bad to you? Did you see anything? You know what I think? Listen, it's in Los Angeles.

It might not have been retrofitted. I don't. The, the, um. This is this prequake. It probably, no, I think it was prequake, but it was, it was not structurally sound. I think I'm going to be honest here. I think I see what this is all about. And June, I think you're not willing to say it.

You are pro malls. You want more malls and you felt like I want a mall. Get me a shopping center in there. Put a shopping center in there. By the way, it also seemed like that shopping center was so large. Like if they, they would have had to taken out all the housing around there too. Like that was a giant. It was like as big as the staple center.

It was gigantic. By the way. No, believe me. I mean, Los Angeles has been sold off to developers. And it's one of the reasons why I am voting for Nithya Raman for LA city council. Absolutely. Because our current councilman, uh, David Rue has, has, it is literally that character in the movie who has sold off this city to developers.

And I will say Nithya has made a pledge that she will save miracles. Well, yeah. Nithya has a large, a large break dancing platform and I, and I've seen her people out on the street. And when they give you the pop lock and then give you a flyer and it's great. Yeah. She says she's going to reopen miracles. She's going to make sure it's safe ozone.

She's endorsed by ozone and turbo. Which no one thought, no one thought that was possible. Nobody thought you could politicize break dancing. If I had been connected, if I had been connected to what this, what miracles was actually doing. And if I had seen these kids at risk and understood like, wow, this, this, this opportunity and this community is changing lives as opposed to just seeing people like dance down a street together.

That was hard because of course I believe in the power of, you know, youth movements, like the sunrise movement, which is incredible. Amazing. And the young people's movement, uh, toward, you know, uh, sensible gun legislation, all of that is incredible. But I had absolutely no connection to the work that miracles was doing. Well, the work that miracles was doing was, I don't think was political in its intent.

It was to give kids a refuge from the streets and give them breezy. I mean, this is classic rec center stuff. Yeah. This is like. How are they funded? June and I actually work with. I don't think they are funded. We work with a rec center.

What do you mean they're not funded? I mean, I think that I think they're just kind of set up. They've just taken over that building. Like they're squatting there. No, I favorite. No, they don't pay any rent. They are the legal tenants. They say it.

The, the boxing coach says we are the legal tenants here. Is the city claiming eminent domain? I mean. No, the city is saying that if they don't do the structural renovations, that they forfeit their lease. They have to tear it down because it's not safe. Right. Now, um, but I will say this, I want to go back to the,

the woman who is swayed very early on by the man. Look, there are the, um, the, I would just say all the white characters who are against the kids and the one guy in the bow tie, the bald guy in the bow tie, who goes to that woman in some sort of council meeting. He goes, and he goes, uh, it's called miracles. And she's like, Oh wow, what an inspiring name. And he's like, we want to shut it down.

She's like, okay, great. Sounds good. Like she literally, she goes, she spins on a dime from like, Oh man, I'm so impressed with these kids. Yeah, sure. We should tear it down. The movie has those kind of characters that are like, well, this is the bureaucracy you're up against.

So even, even if me, the town council woman can say, it sounds like you're doing wonderful work there. It doesn't matter. The building is on sound and needs, if you can come up with the money, great. If not, we have to sell it to the rich developer period. And your neighborhood will thus be corrupted. You know, we got to protect,

we have to protect the neighborhood that miracles is in guys. I mean, listen, and I don't get me wrong. Like I absolutely agree with all of that, but I do think that that miracles has some responsibility. Once they understood that that building was unsafe for children to be in, but they're raising the money there again. They should not have boxed in there again. They should not have danced in there again.

And as far as your concern, Kelly should have just walked away, gone to Paris and let them deal with it themselves. Yes, she should. Kelly did nothing to help them. All right, June. I first of all, she's bringing attention. She's a Broadway star coming back home to LA. And I want to just say something that you probably didn't remember

from the very Mr. Smith goes to Washington moment here. When ozone says miracles is more than a piece of property. It's people. Okay. Great. Then it can exist anywhere. Then put it in a building. Also, we're in Los Angeles.

That's what the developer would say. That you're saying lines the developer would say. Are you auditioning right now? What's happening? The person that I was most disappointed in. The person I was most disappointed in and also kind of conflicted by was Stanley, which was Kelly's agent who seemed to be very hands on as an agent. Yeah.

Yeah, buddy. Stanley is an agent for a dancer and goes with her to auditions. That is red flags. Helps her pack her bags. Really? Helps her pack her bags. I mean, I do think agents were different. Like now agents are very hands off.

Sure. I do think maybe at this time agents were accompanying people to auditions. No, June. June. Not a background chorus girl. I am so sorry. Do we have bizarro June on the call? There's a weird dynamic going on there.

There's a weird boyfriend. I want to get into those parents. Oh, fiance. I'm sorry. He's a fiance. He's a fiance? He is introduced. Wait, you're talking about at the dinner scene?

Yeah. Okay. He is introduced as Kelly's fiance. A fiance. No. Yes. What? How did I miss it?

I thought that her and Ozone were the thing because they kiss. They kiss, but I don't know what their thing is. Very platonic. Which is also confusing Rhonda, obviously. Yeah. I think Kelly and Ozone have a, I think they're trying to do a Will They Won't They. Well, didn't they have a Will They Won't They in number one? By the way, that they were, that something must have happened in Breaking One that,

that Breaking One must have been a full love story between them. No. I believe Breaking One was a, she's from the opposite side of the tracks. He's a bad guy. Like we don't want you so, you know, fraternizing with the kids from the other side. It was a one of those stories. Right. So this, this though doesn't pick up with them having successfully become a couple.

This picks up with, she's been gone for a while and now returned. Okay. So here's, I just reread, I just read the Wikipedia breakdown of the, the first movie. The first movie is really about them becoming a dance troupe and they win a competition. So then she goes off to New York and is now dancing because she never really fits in with the break dancing, but they respect each other's style very much like that other, that other thing that we did. That movie where the girl goes to ballet and the violin.

It's like a mixing and merging of styles. High strung. High strung. High strung. A very high strung relationship here. Remember when we watched High Strung? Oh my gosh. I couldn't touch my toes back then.

Now I can. Holy cow. What a journey. Thank you. What a journey. But I will say this much that I feel like, so the first one is like there are becoming friends, but to me it would have been a stronger choice if she had a boyfriend in New York that she brought back and then she fell in with this group.

And then there was a little bit of a conflict because I have to say when that moment happens, when there is this like this, I don't know, this fight about like between her and the other girl who likes Ozone. I'm like, whoa, what's going on here? Yeah, I agree. I thought I told you to stay away from here. So I didn't take your advice. I can see that.

Kelly, I'm only going to tell you this one more time. Leave. You're not going to tell me what to do or where to go. I liked it a lot better around here with you gone and I wanted to stay that way. You think you're so tough, don't you? You don't have your bodyguards. You know, I turned down a good job in Paris to stay here. Not you or anybody is going to tell me when to leave.

I'm staying. The weird thing about this movie is like, and here's why I struggle with Kelly not going to Paris because they set it up like they actually set up a white savior complex that doesn't even pay off because she doesn't save anything. Aside from, yes, I know her parents wrote her a check. There's no reason for her to be there at miracles. It would have been better to me if she had, it would have been both a more problematic movie, but a better narrative if she had actually offered something to this community.

Well, enthusiasm. I'm just like, you're not going to get it. This community can absolutely sustain itself. This community can speak for itself. This community should exist without Kelly. Kelly should not interfere here. Well, here's what I think. Kelly should go pursue contemporary dancing.

Kelly though, Kelly isn't arriving into this scene and saying, let me speak for you. Let me take control of this. Kelly's like, how can I help? How can I help in any way? Do you think I, first she says, do you think I can help? Then how can I help? I want to help. She's, it's not, she's not seeking.

Well, she's, she helps by, you know, building sets. She helps by teaching classes. Can we talk about what they're wearing when they're building sets? They're not wearing, like, they're wearing kind of like, they're dressed to the nines when they're doing construction work. Always. They are always dressed to the nines. Ozone is wearing a fucking, a leather confederate or like a civil war hat with like a furry tail

attached to the back. This perpetuates the people, young people. This is all, and again, this is like, this again hits me on a nostalgia level. Like it's all like thrift store clothes or whatever. So you see like one kid's wearing like a marching band jacket. Yes. I'm like, yes. Yes.

I know that. I know that look. I remember when kid, you would buy a random, like marching band jacket and that would be your alternative look, you know. I want to go back to a time market dress like this. I like, I like. Well, I was also in marching band. So I have so many pictures of me and marching band cost in marching band uniforms.

What? Yeah. I was up online. Oh, we don't want to see me. Blue and white marching band uniform with get ready for it. A full ponytail. Whoa. We wait.

That's kind of close to on the Jess and Lenin show. You kind of had. Yeah. I didn't have a ponytail or anything, but we were in marching because the, the, the plotline of that episode was that Lenin and I were old flames from when we were both in marching band, which Lenin and Jess wrote because Lenin and I were both actually in marching band. Well, okay.

So I want to go, I want to go back to this fiance thing for one second because why did ozone and turbo smell his ass? I must have missed that part. Oh, I missed that as well. Okay. So when he comes into the house, they're like, they're making faces like you, P you gross. Like they're maybe. And then they do his ass.

And they pick up the back of his jacket and they sniff his butt like, Oh, I missed that. And I didn't know like, I was like, wow, they really are. They really are having so much fun at either saying they smells like shit or he is shit. Like, but it's a real like, like before it gets really bad. Like with him, they are, they are literally smelling his ass and doing full on. I mean, everyone's really embracing mime work here. Not just the mime. And the mime means less to your concern that there is also just a mime hanging around.

The mime also break dances. Well, I mean, everybody pops and locks. What do you think about that, June? Are mimes like break dancers? What do you mean? It seemed to show like a direct correlation, like almost like the mime begat the break dancer. Oh, that's interesting.

Like you were to do one of those charts. Listen, I, you know, I, I found, I'm not going to, I guess, belabor the point. I found the dancing to be so unsatisfying to watch. Yeah. I can't believe the house dance. The house, you can't admit that the house dance is one of the best things that you've seen. I mean, it made an inception look simple.

I was, I literally, I turned to you. I went to Christopher Nolan and saw this and was like, oh, this is what I can do. I believe he did. Cause I said to June, I was like, this movie was made for like $10. I was like, how the fuck do they, I cannot figure out how they did it. And I was like, is it a gimbal? Yeah. They put the house, they put the whole house on a gimbal and it rotated.

And then I, I have, Nate Kiley did some research. Apparently Freddie, a Freddie Krueger movie was shooting like next door and they had that in that film. Can we borrow that set? And they're like, sure. They borrowed that set. And so if you look in the background, Freddie's glove is on the wall. Whoa.

To kind of be like an homage to be a thank you for letting us use the gimbal wall. I loved that scene. And I remembered that scene. Cause I think we've seen that this, some version of this now a million times. Lionel Richie dancing on the ceiling. Yeah. In a million different ways. Yeah.

Lionel Richie dancing on the ceiling or in horror movies or in inception, this kind of a thing. And I, this, this is the first time I feel like I remember as a kid seeing it. And it blowing my mind, you know? Yeah. And then when the girl comes in at the end, like when the girl comes in at the end and he's still dancing on the wall, it's awesome. Oh, that girl. I love that girl.

The way that they, the way they ADR'd her voice. Oh, this is sad. This is so incredibly wrong and upsetting. It's really tricky. Hard to agree. Right. It's so sad. I will also say this movie does too much ADR.

I think they did it too many times because apparently I do have a little bit of a thing about Sabrina Garcia. She spoke Spanish and English, but her voice was so weak that she could barely be heard on the audio track. So that's why they needed to dub her. And she was also in a closet at one point. Why was she in that? Okay.

And then someone even says, someone even says, what was she doing? In there? Was she hiding from the nurses? I mean, I thought maybe she's hiding from the hospital staff, but then, but why? Why would she have to? Why? Yeah. Why is she hiding in the closet?

I was like, are they trying to make it look like? Yeah. I was like, are they trying to make it look like, are they pretending like the closet's the bathroom door? I was like, what is, what is this? I created a whole fantasy that she was in some sort of break dancing Narnia. And that's how she arrived. Yes.

There's a closet door at the back of the, the half of the place that she dances. Oh yeah. The band shell. The band shell there. Exactly. But they're like, I mean, the ADR, the ADR in this movie is so crazy because I think they even ADR the fiance or somebody to make them sound more like stereotypically white. Or like, like, like hoity-toity.

Yeah. Richie kind of, you know, they give him like a, like a, a Kennedy-esque almost like weird, like, whatever. Yes. And they, and they, and they pop it in throughout. Like you could tell at the, whoever was doing sound design was like, let's do more. Let's do, let's get more in here. Cause even the construction workers were like, hey, that's my lunch.

Well, they'll do a lot of things with the equipment. I don't know. They'll cut to a wide shot and then just put lines of dialogue in so that you don't have to see it coming out of character's mouths, but it, it still adds to the scene because you could tell they just were like, well, this is the footage we have. Oh. How can we create and sculpt a riveting dance-based narrative around it? They did not, they did not not use any section of footage.

So much so that like everything that was shot is in this movie and that end sequence where that musical, that kind of terrible musical number is going on. They are just cutting to balloons. They're cutting to the crowd. Like they're like, if we shot it, it is going in this movie. Oh, we should say this. And I meant to say this at the top. This is a Canon film.

Yes. Right. And so, so people might remember, we've done a lot of Canon films. Ninjas. Golden and Globes are the producers. They made everything from Masters of the Universe to, what else have we done? Oh, I mean, they've, they, they are, the Canon group is, is like blood sport over the top. Master of the Universe, Cobra, break into Ninja 3.

So they are really the patron saints of this. And this, and their whole ethos is, oh, the apple, remember the apple? Oh my God. Their whole ethos is like really cheaply shoot as quickly and as much as you can. And then just like cobble it together and get it out. I mean, so much so that when, when a turbo falls down the stairs, which is the moment I remember from a kid, because that was, that was so upsetting to me as a child to see some kid fall down a flight of stairs.

And when you see. Except that it's not a kid. It's like a grown man. Oh man. That stunt double. That's a baseball level stunt double. It is, it is so visible that it is a grown man wearing turbo's outfit. It is hilarious.

I mean, Gene, did you feel an emotion when turbo fell? I mean, what do you feel about turbo on the nose? And we know how you feel about Kelly, but did you feel anything about like, did you feel like they had a reason? I found everybody in this movie to be so unappealing to look at. And in the movies that were made during this time, I mean, we were, we were as a nation so concerned with forehead sweat, like so concerned with protecting it on men, on women. And it made everybody just look like shit.

Everybody's wearing those weird men, like sort of braided head things and they look terrible. And like Kelly's a beautiful woman. She looks terrible. Turbo and ozone, I think are good looking guys and they, they look terrible. Like everybody just looks terrible. Are you saying that I, I shouldn't be leaving the house right now wearing like a half sleeveless mesh shirt? Oh my God.

That is fluorescent yellow. But you know what it is because actually when Kelly, Kelly did was giving me like very young Kris Jenner vibes. And when she slicked her hair back, like when it was wet, I thought it looked, she looked so great. But when it was sort of winged out like that on top and fanned out like everybody's hair was all of the white ladies hairs fanned out, it just looked so horrible. And you know, it's just sort of stunning the way that even those nurses, like the sexy nurses,

it's like, wow, you've taken what I think are very attractive people and managed to make each and every one of them look pretty terrible. Here's what I'll say. I don't know that that's the movie as much as that's the 80. I agree. You know what I mean? I think this movie was a not to say that everybody looked like this in the 80s. I think this is a a little bit pushed kind of colorful poppy.

You know, it's definitely a designed version of but this is what people like I wore like there's a kid in a shirt. No. Oh yeah. No, I wore like Pookabee necklace. I wore like there's stuff in here that I wore for sure. And a lot of it is so a lot of that rings true to me and it really is just oh, this is how people dressed and this movie is like here's what they wore and it now seems patently absurd.

I wore a pretty large crucifix as a child. Did you really? Yeah. Oh my God. I have I was like Christ on the cross. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

For a small Jewish boy on Long Island, that must have been very conflicting. I want to go back to those nurses for a second. That was an odd part of this thing. Again, the movie takes like about three moments or maybe two where it becomes a full musical. The rest is grounded in reality or at least our representation of what reality is. And when those nurses come in, they seem to be the reason why everyone is like it seems sexy is making everyone come alive, not break dancing. Right.

It's like it's breaking the right. Isn't it the kiss between when the when when when they kiss, right? Kisses turbo and he wakes up. Then everybody is like elated and the hospital is transformed and like everybody. I mean, like, I'll be honest, like the women, the pregnant women who are there, I'm assuming inactive labor shouldn't be up and doing a choreographed dance routine. Like the surgeons shouldn't leave the operating theater. The man who is being operated on should not get up.

But all of these things happen. It is alarming. But it seems like the women, like it just seems like this is a weird, like in every other scene, our break dances are leading the charge. And I understand like the kiss has like unlocked these three sexy nurses to kind of bring sex into the hospital, which is not a place where you need to inject sex. It's not like, it's not like, oh, this is such a concern. It's not like, oh, everyone's so conservative here.

We need to inject sex. It's like, no, I, I don't know about you, but I think, I think hospitals, you know, are pretty sexy places. And I know this because of what I've learned on Grey's Anatomy, what I've learned on ER. I mean, there's a lot of sex and sexiness happening at hospitals. By the way, I was laughing so hard. I don't disagree.

I think, I think there's like, there's definitely chemistry between healthy people in hospitals and that it can, it can be like a very alive, like workplace setting in that way. But between, I don't want to see patients finding their sexuality there. No, thanks. You don't, you want, you don't want a doctor leaving you on the table because they all got horny. No, I wouldn't want, if I was in a hospital bed, I wouldn't want to look out and see the nurses station all rehearsing a choreographed dancer.

I would, I, oh, my, this is how, this is to me, that, you know, the, the song, din da da, din da da, that song, girls in my school in a, like in a talent show did a choreographed dancer team to that song. Like that's how like huge this movie was to me as a kid. Like that song inspired like the girls in my grade to do like a full blown choreographed dance routine to that song. Wow. Okay.

Well, look, I mean, wow, this movie has, I mean, I'm surprised that June, this missed you entirely and yet you love the step up movies because I feel like this is the evolution of that. Um, but I guess the origination of those are not to, you know, be, I'm a little bit younger than you two. Yeah. No, I think that's probably like, I think, like, I agree. Like I think a good portion of why I'm as forgiving and as, you know, as enjoy this as

much as I did is, is race and nostalgia, you know, is really, that felt like it was on all the time too. Like these are one of those movies that like played because I'm sure Canon sold the rights for like $2. Like this and the last dragon were on all the time on my local like TV stations like channel 11. I felt like I watched it. Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah. I think that's true for me. So I didn't see, I mean, I saw it a couple of times because I rented it, but, but that's it. I don't, I don't remember. I don't have that relationship. Oh yeah. Like I would see Beat Street and Last Dragon, all these.

Huh. Now I want to ask you guys a question because I thought this last night, Ozone and Kelly, fuck, right? Because when they're, I don't know how they have room to on that tiny little bed. When? Well, when they, Oh, when her, it's just like a tiny, it's not even a twin. Oh, by the way. Well, I mean, first of all, I want to talk about, I want to talk about, big set of, yes,

yes, et cetera. Yes, yes, yes. Oh my God. I was just going to say, I thought that she goes and she straightens the picture, which she doesn't. She still leaves it askew and then above it is hanging. And this was such a part of 80s decor was just the lowercase letters, et cetera, ETC period, just put on the wall.

Like that was, that was something that was like art direction. Like you would put like random letters on the wall. I mean, that, that, that her apartment, which was like, like three walls was just like the detris of breaking one. I was like, okay, let's put up a picture of the poster, let's put some stills for the movie. Like, and it was like, they're trying to establish it. But later on in the film, when they're eating pizza, no zone shirtless eating pizza, which

is not a good luck. Just put a shirt on. This reminds me of that Alec Baldwin movie we did where they're eating Doritos with no shirt on. I don't like it. But I was like, Oh, they're just having a pizza party and he wanted to take off his leather shirt because he didn't want to get greased on his other shirt. But then when the agent comes in, he gets up and zips up his pants, which I'm like,

wow, what is the Zip 80 yard? I mean, there's, again, yeah. Well, even in, so ozone in that scene, that scene with ozone and turbo where he's trying to teach turbo how to, to seduce that, that young woman, the life-sized doll, the life-sized doll that they live with. So many questions about that. But when he gets up off the bed there, his pants are also unzipped. All right.

I got to play that clip. That flirting lesson. You think I got sex appeal, dude? Give me a break. I need some advice. What advice? I want to know how to start off with a girl, dude. I'll show you your tricks of the old master.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Suppose she knows I'm there. What do I do next? Tell her I love her. No, man. If you tell her that, she doesn't even know you yet.

Can I kiss her? No. If you do that, she'll punch your lights out. Then what do I do? You do like I do. Stand there and just smile. Smile? Like this?

No. No. Matter of fact, don't, don't smile at all. Well, then can I kiss her now? No, you whisper in her ear. Whisper what? You know, it sounds like, hey, baby, you look fine. I like it.

Hey, you know, check this out. You better up to it. You know, go ahead. You have the nicest teeth. No, man. She's not a horse. Tell her about her eyes. Oh, your eyes are so round.

No. Let's start from scratch with you. Let me show you how you do it. I don't, I don't mind unzipped at home because if I'm like, he's, because he's like, isn't he laying in bed? But with a friend over? Oh. I would not leave my pants unzipped with a friend over.

Well, look, their relationship to me, I love this relationship. It reminded me of Under the Cherry Moon because when, when they ripped that doll apart and they go at it, I was like, kiss, kiss. I wanted them to kiss and I would have loved it. And I would have loved it. If this movie had ended the same way that Itou Mama Tambien did, I would have been thrilled. Like if this movie crescendoed into a threesome between Ozone, Turbo and Kelly, I would have loved it.

And, and you know what? The, the, the woman that Turbo is falling in love with, like if that was what it was, great. All together. I'm into it. A classic kids movie that ends in an orgy. Did you recognize the one of the most famous actors in this film? I don't know that I did.

Ice Tee. What? Where? He is the rapper that they, when they go to the club, he is on stage and he comes back, June didn't recognize him either, in the film. Ice Tee. At the end. He is, he is credited as rapper.

But he is, this is his big debut here. So this is like pre New Jack City, Ice Tee. Yeah. Oh wow. And here's a little bit of his charity rap. Put your hands together and welcome, if you will, Mr. Ice Tee at Hot Top. Party people in a place to be. First thing I want you to do is clap your hands.

Everybody clap your hands. Yeah. We're here for one reason and you know that truth. Gotta raise a lot of money for the day is through. Now this is not a party. This is a demonstration to try to counteract the city council's legislation. We must say the miracles of time is now. We all work together.

We can do it somehow. So reach into your pocket and give it some time. A quarter, a nickel, or even a dime. Everybody in a place, sing along with me. Everybody in a place. G-I-V-E, say give. Give. Give.

Give. The miracles can live. Say give. Say give. Say give. The miracles can live. All right. It's so funny that to me, Ice Tee is like, was such a formative part of our childhood

as a rapper and is now predominantly probably in most people's opinion an actor on SVU. Sure. You know, he is just that character on SVU for like 18 years, which is wide. And also Ice Loves Coco, his reality show. Oh my God. I'm so sorry. That is amazing. Yes.

I'm sorry. Let me re, let me rejigger my hierarchy. Ice Loves Coco, number one. People know him. Ice Loves Coco. I mean, by the way, his podcast is pretty great too. Wait. I just need to talk.

Is it about, is it him and Coco? It's just some guy kind of chatting, I believe. I mean, I've only heard clips of it and I think it's called like the final level or something like that. I subscribe to Coco's podcast, Hot Coco. Only on Stitcher. It's called, yeah. It's called the, it's called the final level.

It's a Stitcher, it's a Stitcher premium. Oh my gosh. He's also been on the SUV podcast. All right. My favorite scene in this movie has nothing to do with breakdancing. The SUV podcast. Oh, the Law and Order. The SVU.

Oh, SVU. Sorry. He's like, you know what? I'm going to talk, today I'm here to talk about Suburbans. That's my, that's my. I'm going to talk about the Denali. My NTSF training is like built SUV. All right.

So here's, here's my favorite scene in the entire film. When the contractor is in the backhoe with the construction worker and he's like, run him over. And, and it's like, it feels like such an improvised scene. And the guy's like, I'm not going to kill a kid. He's like, do it. Like that scene to me played so funny and real because he's maniacal. And the guy is like, I feel like that guy is an actual like construction worker.

I'm not going to do that. He plays it so. And he has to say out loud, I'm not going to kill a kid. I'm not going to kill a kid. Isn't this the scene where also the TV reporter is there? Yeah. This is being filmed. Like that would, it would be amazing if the guy was just like, okay.

And just like murdered someone. It just drove over him. I mean, that really is, again, it gets at that 80s sense of Gordon and Gekko greed is good. The developers are the bad guys. These guys are, they're ruining our neighborhoods. They're coming in. They're kicking us out of our places and they're building shit for them, not us.

Like it really gets at that kind of archetype that was so prevalent in the 80s as gentrification was taking over as, as cities were being transformed. And so it really did have a real like, fuck this guy, you know, stick it to the man kind of vibe, which. Well, you know, who had that vibe throughout the whole movie. And I feel like got only a couple minutes to shine. But I think it was probably one of the better performances is the dog of the rich parents where they cut to him for two tight close ups for no reason.

The dog, the dog gets close ups and I was like, wait, are they doing this to cover cuts? And I was like, well, it doesn't make difference because they already have two shots of the parents. So it's not like they only have a wide. I was like, why did they? No, I think they want the dog's input. I think they suggest that filmically, they're suggesting that the dog is contributing somehow. Like when the dog has a single, I think we're meant to believe like the dog is speaking

its point of view and it's like the parents only can hear it maybe. I don't know. Oh my God. Well, clearly, we had opinions about this movie and about break dancing in general, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It's time for second opinions. The movie was a piece of shit, yet this person recommends it. Tell me what is the message, maybe that art is subjective.

I need a second opinion. Now I want to do breaking one. We need to do breaking one. 100%. That was John Le Joie with his second opinion theme. We love you, John. 135 reviews of break into electric boogaloo. 72% are five stars, 10% are one stars.

Here's something interesting. There are a lot of German reviews. And as Nate Kiley, our research assistant says, they're not funny, but it just seems to be very popular there. And I would argue that most of these breaking two reviews are not funny, but I'm going to read a couple of them because they're just interesting. This one was written by Amazon customer, generic name, and the review is, my wife loves this movie, five stars.

And then Daniela Barnes says, it brings back so many memories of good times past. All those who were around when the movie was out and so many who are no longer here. Five stars. Yeah. Yeah. In there. This one is an odd one. Wait, can I ask, was that in regards to the people in the movie?

Like have we lost actors? No, I think it's like her friends who are no longer here. Yeah, I think. The actors seem to be alive and working. Like Ozone is a famous choreographer. Kevin Haddad writes, this movie is great. I decided to make it the theme for my Christmas party. Christmas to electric boogaloo.

I can't recommend this movie enough, five stars. I didn't realize that you could theme out Christmas parties. Also, like, is this guy saying that like Christmas has only existed for two years? Yeah. I mean, he should have like 2002, 2020. Yeah. Like you could do it when it rhymes a little bit. This one is from Tracy.

It's a longer review, but I'm just going to read this one part where she says, if you've not seen it and your youth was in the 80s era, this is a must watch. If you have seen it, watch it again. And I promise you, you will smile. Smile when memories come flooding in from a carefree time in your life. Hopefully. Hopefully. Okay, Amazon.

Hopefully. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Okay, Amazon. Get with the times and get break into a veil to stream. Now, it was streaming on Amazon for a little bit, but for this, if you are, if you've watched this, you probably had to subscribe to Sugar. Brown sugar.

Brown sugar. Brown sugar for a seven day free trial. And it was well worth it. And brown sugar actually looks like it. Which, by the way, I flipped around and there's a lot of good stuff on brown sugar. So I'm like excited to watch a bunch of stuff in this next week while I have a free trial. I agree. They had some really good movies there.

And to June, I want to just finish on this one because I think it's a really, to your point, this is from Vine voice. In the first movie, a lot of critics pointed out how turbo and ozone were popping and locking, but Kelly was just doing spins and flips. And I say, that's the point. Kelly will never fit in with their world, but was welcomed anyway because she got into the spirit of things and found it appealing. The whole thing reminded me a gadget.

The point was never to show how skilled she was, but that her passion and idealism was welcomed. Five stars. Wow. Yeah. Like, and again, I guess you're right, Jason. And it seems like, what did Kelly offer? She was just sort of another hand on deck.

And there already seemed to be a lot of people there. There's a lot of people, but no one in leadership positions. I think if Kelly had gone to Paris, it would have been her abandoning the people that were counting on her. Wait a second, Jason. You're saying you don't think, you don't trust that ozone and turbo could have gotten this, could have saved miracles on their own? Well, did they?

Did they do it? We have evidence that they were unable to. Yeah. They did not. Wow. Wow. Wow. And also, Kelly can choose, as we saw her do, to be part of this.

Listen. All Kelly provided was access to her parents who just randomly arrived because they saw it on the news. They were moved by her idealism. And were impressed by it. But it was not Kelly's idea to stage this sort of sit-in. No. You're right.

You're right. It was Kelly's idea to believe in herself. Yes. And not take the easy way out. If she believed in herself and her dance capabilities, she would have gone to Paris. I think maybe what happened is that Kelly realized. That is the selfish truth. Kelly realized, you know what?

I don't got it. I don't got it. Wow. And I'm not ready for the big time. These are the takes. These are the hot takes that people tune in to how did this get made? I love when June comes out of a movie like this. I'm going to say one thing to you, June.

If Kelly had the goods, if Kelly was someone who should be a lead in a production in Paris where all the great stars go through. Where every dancer is proven, where the testing ground for all modern dancers, Paris, France. To go from Broadway to Paris, France. It's a trajectory we all want to achieve. That's what we understand to be the dancer's life. You get good enough on Broadway, straight to Paris. We've talked about this before, but there's so few dancers that actually pop as dancers.

Sure. A dancer's life is limited. The lifespan is limited. They have a sheet. Kelly has a shelf life of maybe three more years as a professional dancer. Wow, June. Well, then are you saying that Stanley wasting his time by spending so much attention on her because this relationship will not last?

Well, the reality is, I think Kelly is in many ways diversifying her skill set and making her professional life perhaps last longer because she has more experience doing more types of dancing and also is now teaching and is also teaching. The boombox had the logo of the first movie on it. I wanted to bring up one point to you, June. If she was this good, would she in the middle of her dance just walk off stage and start talking to her parents? She was in the middle of a routine, saw her parents and just walked off stage and was

like, hey, what's going on guys? She was comfortable enough to leave the charity fundraising performance, walked right off, done. They didn't even call her over. She saw them and approached them. Listen, if Kelly really cared about this community, she would have taken the deal weeks earlier and not put everyone through this. I mean, Turpa almost died on those steps.

She would have taken the deal. She would have gone to Princeton and she would have handed over $200,000. What was the end game? Because was it a lunchbox? And if it was, why were they chasing him so much? And if it wasn't, what was he going to do? Because then he would be creating a crime. And I think one of the cool things about this movie is that there is no crime element in

this movie. There's no like, oh, even- I love that in movies. And I like that. I do. I think it's just different. But it was interesting. I don't know what the- it seemed like they were just having fun and then it got real serious.

He was running with that box. Just drop it. Just drop the box. He cares. Oh. He took those steps hard. He took them really hard. So this movie, I told you the tagline was, if you can't beat the system, break it.

They also have another one, which I really liked, which is Believe in the Beat that's on the street. They're popping and popping, they're breaking and locking. The opening weekend, it made $2.9 million and it domestically grossed $15.1 million. Now, that is half of what the first movie made at the box office. This movie came in 102nd place out of all the movies made in 1984. The top three movies were Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, and Grimlins. Now here is the thing I really want to call your attention to.

This movie was beaten by Breaking One, came out the same year, and it beat Ninja 3 Domination, which starred Kelly. So Kelly made three movies in one year. This one falls right in the center, Breaking, Breaking 2 and Ninja 3 Domination, which I just- good on. Good on. What I realized in this movie is, and I know we'd seen her in Ninja 3, was that she is a very good dancer.

When we see her actually dancing, her style of dancing when she's doing the audition, not when she's participating in the break dancing, they're showing her in a wide shot doing the dancing. It's not a body double as what I mean. This actress can do that dancing, which I actually really liked that they integrated that and let her have real moments of like, oh no, this is why she might get that job. This is why she's up for- She should have gone to Paris.

That audition. Jason, she's giving it everything she has, and she's completely connected, and it's a beautiful little piece she does. Sure, but then she puts herself aside for the betterment of the whole. I guess maybe it's a communist movie. Wow. She didn't have to, though. All she had to say was like, hey, mom and dad, can you write that check?

I know you were going to give me 200,000 to go to Princeton. I'll take 70, and I'll go to Paris. Wow. And I never see my friends again. Yes, absolutely. That is the equivalent of a romantic comedy. That's the equivalent of- Yes, you want her to go with the-

That's Jennifer Gray's dad saying, I'll give you $70,000 to never talk to Patrick Swayze again. Don't you ever compare- And her being like, wow, wait, wait a second, why not you? Why not? Why not? Don't you ever compare- That is-

The chemistry, the intensity, what's happening between Jennifer Gray and Patrick Swayze. Don't you ever compare- Wow. But if she took the deal her father offered, you would say it would be the same. She's throwing away her life on dancing with this guy versus taking the money and letting him be. Patrick Swayze- Patrick Swayze was Jennifer Gray's first love and someone she fell in love with.

I do not think- Do you think she had the time of her life with him? From what my eyes saw that Kelly is in love with Ozone, I think she likes these people, and that's it. Wow. Well, let me just say one thing as we are wrapping up here, June, and you'll be happy to know this, that this was actually inspired by a real-life event breaking two, Electric Bugaloo.

The Radio Tron, a youth center near MacArthur Park in Los Angeles, faced demolition, and youth director Carmelo Alvarez rallied the youth and community to march to Los Angeles City Hall and save Radio Tron. I don't have the outcome of what happened there, but I will tell you this- What? What did they- How do you- I was googling-

I don't have the outcome. I was googling it as we were talking, but I will say this, that Carmelo Alvarez is still an artist in residence here in Los Angeles. He is doing many community projects. Does he do it at Radio Tron? Why? Because if not, I suspect he failed. I mean, I thought there was going to be a little bit more there to kind of-

To go on. Oh, but here, this is, look, I'm looking up Radio Tron right here. There's traces of Radio Tron in MacArthur Park, so I guess it did. It basically was- it played a pivotal role in the West Coast hip-hop movement, and from 1983 to 1985, it was on Southview Park Avenue, and they opened their door for breakdancing, writing graffiti on walls. It gained reputation for being a safe space for breakdancing, popping, graffiti, art, MCing, and DJing during the 80s, and it was actually where they shot break-in and break-in

too. And let's see, and despite the community efforts to save the building, it was demolished for the Parkview Mall. But the spirit lives on through the people who are there, visit- So this is- this movie is like an alternate reality, so in real life, in real life, June, you win. Oh no. And all those people are alive to tell that story, so yeah, that is a win.

Truthfully, Carmelo Alvarez is still involved in youth and cultural programming for 30 years. He's been instrumental in opening 14 youth and community-based cultural centers throughout Los Angeles and Mexico and in New York, and he's currently working on his 18th venture. So there he is. He did it. Oh, by the way, I did have one thing I wanted to say too. There was a messaging problem because they painted on the building Save Our Streets, but it should have been Save Miracles, right?

I guess maybe because they shot it at the real place, they couldn't afford to change that. Because Save Our Streets, they weren't trying to save the streets, they were trying to save the building. Save the building, yeah. Which I guess, yeah, I don't know, maybe that's a nitpick. Would you recommend watching this movie, Jason? Absolutely.

Absolutely. Especially if you like or enjoy, like I said, the step-up movies, what's the Julia Styles one? Oh, Save the Last Dance. Save the Last Dance, especially if you like movies in which it is coming together of different dance styles, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. And again, I'm fully willing to admit that I am participating in middle-aged nostalgia

for my own childhood because this looks so much like my childhood. And I was, again, a kid breakdancer. I took lessons at the YMCA. And we did breaking competitions in between classes at my elementary school. So I will fully admit- And let me ask you, so breakdancing is more than just going down on the ground and spinning around like a turtle. So you're getting into it again?

Breakdancing, you can split into two categories, right? So there's popping and locking, which is like everything you do on your feet, like all of the what you called the robot, like the hand, the hand stuff, the flowing kind of sharing of energy, like I'm holding an energy, all of these on the ground, like variations on the moonwalk, looking like you're floating, all of that popping and locking on the ground. And then when you go to the ground, backspins, shoulder spins, head spins, all of that, the windmill, all of that stuff is a different subset. So some people were good.

So if you had like, some people were good at popping and locking, some people were good on the ground, blah, blah, blah. So all of it is, I think, I don't know, maybe I'm being wrong, but I think all of it technically falls under the umbrella of breakdancing. And which area was your forte? Popping and locking. Okay. Now, Jason, did you notice when Ozone gave that one guy a note when that guy goes, hey,

watch this. And then Ozone's like, try it like this. I didn't really notice that much of a difference between those two moves. I think it really was just, it just was more. It was just accentuated. I think it was the same move, just bigger is what I don't know. I agree. It wasn't, it didn't seem very different.

I am going to just announce right now that I've taken, just because something is difficult doesn't mean it's good, the shirt that we created for June in breakdancing. And I'm putting it back in the store on T-Public right now. So just as we've talked about this, it's got to go back. It's got to go back. What's the image on that? The image on that is a few breakdancers popping around the dialogue. Okay.

Because what I was going to say is I had the poster, not for this soundtrack. I think it was the Beat Street soundtrack. The LP came with a poster inside that was diagrams of breakdancing moves. And I was going to say, oh, the shirt should be diagrams of breakdancing moves. And then the phrase you just said. It does have a really cool, it does look cool. I think it does have a little bit of that on there. So that is back in play.

We are kind of coming up to November right now. And as we are talking about a lot of things, just a reminder to make sure that you vote. Make sure you research all the things that are on your ballot. And Vote Save America actually does a great job of breaking down where you live and what's on your ballot. So you understand a little bit better. So I want to just shout out that. Jason and June, anything else you want to promote or talk about?

No. Yes. Of course, yes, let's all vote, vote, vote, and yeah, I don't think I could. I don't think I would recommend this movie. Oh, sorry. I forgot about that. Yeah, it's okay. I'm going to.

I'm going to. Sorry, please. So sorry. Yeah. I'm going to say my piece, but I had fun talking about it. And you know, it's interesting, Jason, I was just thinking like for someone who spent that amount of time dancing, I feel like I have seen you on dance floors at various occasions. Uh-oh.

You very, I mean, I don't see you breaking out any of the moves. Wow. Now it comes for Jason. I would. Now it comes for Jason. Well, no, I say that because I do feel like break dancing is so disconnected from any other type of. I agree.

I don't think I would not nor, you know, this again, I am a 47 year old man and I did this when I was like 12 years old. So there's a lot that I was doing at 12, 13 years old that I am physically incapable of doing now. It would be, I think it would be almost, I did, I once in an improv show, did the worm and really hurt my dick. Like really. What?

Yeah. Because on the, when the worm, you like, you, you know, it's when you flop all around like this. And I just went like flop like and straight on like, you know, I was like, oh, in the middle of a show. I was like, oh, I also hurt my body doing the worm on Parks and Rec because my character did Kaboom. I kaboom the park in the second season of Parks and Rec.

I think it's called Kaboom. And I had to like do this move around break dancing on stage. I had to have three rehearsals with a dance coach. Oh yeah. It was intense. And they use like two seconds of it because I'm a terrible break dancer. And, but they wanted me to jump off the stage and then do the worm on the ground. Like on, like.

On regular ground. On regular dirt ground with rocks and stuff. And I cut up like my thigh, like it was a mess. It was a. That's not good. Yeah. Not good at all. I did not, I did not do well.

So, but no, June, you will not be seeing me break dancing at any events that we are at dancing together. I'm not. Listen, I'm not much of a dancer. I will see you doing really much dancing at all. I don't. I don't. I'm not.

I don't. I'm not a good dancer. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not a good dancer. I'm not a. I don't like hear the music and be like, oh, gotta get out and dance. No, that's not it.

You know, Interesting. Well, and that's, I think, ultimately what I felt about this movie and break dancing is that it was not inspired from anything and by anything. Like it didn't make me want to get up and dance. It didn't like move me. And I am someone who is moved by the music. She does like to dance.

I am someone who loves to dance. I'm always ready for a dance party. I'm always, I've had to create my own because they're not as readily available. I mean, certainly not right now, but, um, and this movie didn't, uh, yeah, didn't do that for me. So I was pretty disappointed. Um, wow. I did not, I will, I will admit this.

I did not anticipate this reaction and I should have because of June's reaction to break dancing in the past. But I was like, oh, this is such a great, um, palette cleanser from the sour taste in my mouth from cats. I also preferred cats. And this is just an instant. You don't even know what we're talking about. Jun preferred cats.

I preferred cats. Uh, well, we'll, we'll get into cats. It's coming up, uh, in a couple of episodes, but man, this is really interesting because last night we were pretty much watching a few movies back to back. And I know that like June, it's, it's a lot for you to watch these movies back to back without a week in there to cleanse it out. And I was like, oh, this is a right up your alley. I could not tell that this is not, this is not doing it for you.

For me. Did it for me. And I liked it. I liked that you didn't, uh, I liked that you guys, I'm glad you guys didn't talk about it last night. It was revealed on the show, we keep it pretty tight. We try to keep the integrity of the podcast at the utmost level, you know, I will say this much.

It makes me want to watch beat street and break in and I, I don't know if there'd be as fun as this. I mean, this one is insane and in all the good ways, maybe the other ones are better. I don't know, like, this is what I will say it is, it is not a good structurally. It is not a good movie. No, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not saying, I'm not out here saying it's well plotted, it's well acted, it's, I'm not at all, it's, it's deeply flawed.

It just, to me, I still think it came from a place of joy. So I still enjoyed it. That's all. I don't want to be out here saying like, this is a great movie. 100%. Yeah. This is not, this is not like, this is kind of like, let's make a show as a movie. I mean, it has like, it has an element of it that is, I don't know, that is very one

take only and look, people are falling. You see some people take some spills in here too, they're not cutting, they're just going through it. Yeah. But yeah, no, I really enjoyed it. And now I will ask Jason and June, what do you have to promote when to talk about anything at all? Nothing except the upcoming election.

And I don't know when exactly this is dropping, but as Paul said, just a, just a real plea to get out there and vote, I do believe that November 3rd is the, well, I said this in 2016, but here we are again, the most important election of our lifetimes. This is a fight that cannot be backed down from, I think, even if you think you understand how you're voting, perhaps you've even already voted, but you're, there are people in your life that should be contacted, make sure they're voting, make sure they're understood, make sure they understand where they're going, do the people in your family have their voting places changed, do they know that, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

And if you are in a place where you can track your ballot, do so, opt into, you might have to opt into that service, but make sure you do, make sure that your actual vote is counted because you are accounting for it, it getting to where it's going. So many great resources out there, Vote Save America, Power to the Poles, there is, there's so many great places and I also just want to call out that we are raising money right now for an amazing voting organization, if you go to our HDTGM.com web page, you can get a Transformers episode, it's only $5, it is us talking about Transformers, a super fun episode and all that money goes to when we all vote, which is another great organization

that you could just check out for all these resources that we're talking about. We just did our live show, I know a lot of you were bummed that you missed it, we will do another live show and one of the things that we want to do about these live shows is we want to keep them special, so that's why we don't have the footage up for more than 24 hours, so if you can't make this one, you'll get the next one, but we want to keep on trying it in different ways, it was so great to hear from everybody, thank you so much for your tweets and everything like that, but we will have an announcement about another one very shortly and if you enjoy Twitch at all, I've been doing stuff on there with

Rob Hubel and Jason's been on there, June's been on there, it's super fun, you can follow me on Twitch at twitch.tv slash Paul Shear, a big shout out to everybody who makes the show possible, that is our producer, Cody Fisher, she's amazing, a big hand to Devon Bryant, our audio engineer and of course our other producer, Averill Haley, who picks all of our films, this is break in two, she found this and couldn't have been more happy, Molly Reynolds who's doing so much work behind the scenes, Nate Kiley does all of our research, Nate, we love you, Nate and I'm glad that we found out the end of that Radio Tron story, a big shout out to Kyle Waldron and Zach McElise who does all of our art, they are equally

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