How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Deck the Halls LIVE!

Episode Date: December 26, 2022

Andrea Savage (Tulsa King) joins Paul, June, & Jason at Largo in Los Angeles to discuss the 2006 Matthew Broderick & Danny DeVito holiday comedy, Deck the Halls—a movie that teaches you the classic ...Christmas lesson that being seen from space doesn't matter. The crew debate whether Danny DeVito plays a con man, the character journey of Kristin Davis & her cookbook, and the super sexual town Christmas show. (Originally released 12/31/2013) For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheerBuy tix for June's pickleball tourney: https://www.janeclub.com/pickleball Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Finally, a movie where you don't know who to root for. We saw Deck the Halls, so you know what that means. Yeah! -♪ How did this campaign go? -♪ How did this campaign go? -♪ Gonna have a good time -♪ Celebrate some failure -♪ Not just be a hater
Starting point is 00:00:16 -♪ Could you do your one-hit? -♪ How did this campaign go? -♪ Let's all win the mediocrity of subpar arts -♪ Perhaps we'll find the answer -♪ To the question, how did this get made? -♪ Hello, people of Earth! -♪ And hello, people of Largo! We're doing a live show.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Thank you so much for coming out. We have a great big show, but before we get started, let me introduce my co-host. Please welcome Jason Manzuchus! -♪ How did this campaign go? -♪ How did this campaign go? -♪ How did this campaign go? -♪ How did this campaign go?
Starting point is 00:00:54 -♪ You made me watch this movie, asshole! -♪ You made me watch this movie, asshole! -♪ And June, Diane Rayfield! -♪ifier! -♪ You made me watch this movie, asshole! -♪ You made me watch this movie, asshole! -♪ And our very special guest for this evening, for this episode,
Starting point is 00:01:15 please welcome, ooh! Eh... Andrea Savage! All right guys, deck the halls. I got clips. Please, let's never watch them. Watching the trailer, I was like, you have this fucking movie, this piece of garbage. I got furious again. Yeah. I literally sawing that my blood started to boil. I'm like, you guys do this often to yourselves. Oh yeah. I feel like the premise of this movie, just the basic premise. Is there a premise? Yeah, there is. Crack it open. But I do believe it's the craziest, most insane
Starting point is 00:02:04 premise. Well, can you please, because I genuinely want to know what it was. I want to have a crack after June. I think I'm claring. I may have a crack after June. Okay. This is why it's crazy. I would say the premise of the movie is there isn't one neighbor who is our protagonist. Oh, who? Which one? Yeah. That is already June. You are off track. Maddie B. Maddie B. Ferris Bueller. Ferris Bueller and he's a guy who loves Christmas. He's the Christmas guy, which we've heard about. He's a protagonist? 50 times in the trailer. Yes. I would support that. I think he's the protagonist. He's the protagonist. I agree that that's what the movie pauses. Well, here's where it gets crazy, though. Okay. Another neighbor comes into town. Oh, shit. This is us pitching the
Starting point is 00:02:52 movie to studios. In any other... First act, it opens up, he's got a great life. He's an eye doctor in a small town and he really likes Christmas. I'm in. Okay. In any other movie, you'd probably think the neighbor's moving into town is also a Christmas guy and is going to do Christmas bigger and better. That's not this movie. Yes, it is. No, it's not. He's not this movie. He's searching. Oh, he's searching for his big thing. He's searching for his big thing. It happens to be Christmas. It becomes Christmas. It becomes Christmas by default. Well, I would say it's not necessarily Christmas. He just wants to be noticed from space. Okay. That is what I would say. That is what I would say. No, it's not. Right. So, you're saying he could be putting lights on for any holiday. I
Starting point is 00:03:39 don't think he was driven by the Christmas spirit. I don't think that's true. I think that, well, there's so many things. I mean, it's about a guy's journey to be recognized. He could not be invisible. They keep saying he doesn't want to be invisible. Very Kafka-esque. Very rooted in so many deep things. I will say that this is what I kept on thinking. You guys have seen The National Poon's Christmas Vacation, right? Of course. I felt like this was the movie where like the protagonist was Julie Louise Dreyfus and the other guy, like the next-door neighbor. Like, I was like, wait, why are we following the other bad couple? Yeah. Like, yeah. Like, Rizvald was the enemy of the other stuff. Well, okay. So, in this movie, I guess you would say that Matthew Broderick's
Starting point is 00:04:22 character had to learn how to not love Christmas as much. Yeah. Or had to learn how to... Who knows? I guess they both have to learn what Christmas actually means for different reasons. Matthew Broderick seemed to have that already. Oh, no. He was too uptight and too rigid about this Christmas. It was too planned. It was too planned that he needs to be more off the cuff. And I know that because Charlotte tells him so. Well, by the way, weird that he is with Charlotte when he is actually married to Carrie. I know. Supposedly... Supposedly Charlotte had to ask Carrie permission. What? She got an email from Sarah Jessica Parker. I swear to God. That's what it says. Got an email from Sarah Jessica Parker. And apparently, they had one sexy scene
Starting point is 00:05:08 that had to be cut to make the PG rating. Oh, shit. Whoa. He went down on her. Meanwhile. With Antlers. The other couple. The other couple is DeVito married to Kristen Chenoweth. Now, both of these people under 410. That was the thing I saw. That showed me how short Kristen Chenoweth was because when they were standing next to each other, wow. Yeah. Literally, the first thing I thought when I saw them side by side, I go, that's the only reason she got the job. I guess. Or was it to have like, I couldn't for the life of me figure out. And maybe this is my inability to see beyond DeVito just being a gross monster. I spent half of the movie trying to place my narrative on it, which is, oh, he's a con man, right? He's a con man who moved to town and he's gonna con
Starting point is 00:06:06 Matthew Broderick somehow. I could not get that out of my head at all. Because that's, by the way, that's what's really confusing because a better movie. It is a better movie. Well, that would have that there would be a plot. Oh, yeah. And so I love plots in movies. There are points. There's a point where Danny DeVito turns on Matthew Broderick and then it's like game on. They're going after each other. But for a while, which I'll take, which I'll take. But the movie posits that Danny DeVito is so amazing at everything, but just gets bored with it. He sold a car to the guy who runs the car dealership. Oh, the car. In a scene we don't see. And I mean it. Because they couldn't write it. Yes. They clearly couldn't write that scene. Because it's an impossibility. Danny DeVito
Starting point is 00:06:51 walked out and was like, just stands and goes like this. Okay, I sold that car. For you at home, all I did was just wave my hand at Jason for 30 seconds. I would like to ask because that scene only bolstered my belief that Danny DeVito was a con man. What is Danny DeVito's problem? Like, why? He doesn't. He seems to be good at his job. But he gets bored. My issue again with Danny DeVito is, is he dumb? Or is he passive aggressive? Or is he just aggressive? Because at certain points in the movie, he says he's all of those things. Yeah. Like at one point. The first scene where they meet, he steals his coffee from him. Like a con man. Like a con man and walks to his home. Yeah. So I just wasn't sure what we were supposed to think about that. He just, that's the
Starting point is 00:07:48 thing from moment one, he starts off as a bad guy. They're great. But then Kristen Davis has that amazing wife role that just continually just goes, it just gives me great and we should spend more time with them. Do you know what I mean? Like it's always like, you know what? You're judging him wrong. I know his wife seems like a stripper and he's stolen stuff from us, but we should actually bring them more into our lives. Because I guess she's thinking to herself, Christmas here is so rigid. Yeah, because that was her big problem. They're a loose Christmas. He's a Hitler Christmas guy. Like he's like, he runs a tight ship. They set up that advent calendar thing, where they open up, you know, the little box. Today's tree day or today's the day we put on the reed. But it's never
Starting point is 00:08:38 called back. It's never like, oh, these except for the carolers. Except at the very end too. Very, very, like the Christmas Eve is as well. But none of the events on that tree come into play at any point in the movie. Correct. Can I, I mean, both of you are working actresses. Very funny. Do you think that that, what do you think about that character journey of Christian Davis getting that cookbook? Okay, one of the first scenes we see with her, I have actually a big problem with this. I do too. Okay, so the first scene we see, she's making some kind of curry dish. Matthew Broderick tastes it and says very honestly, it's terrible. No, no, no. First he goes, it's great. And then he says, it's terrible. And she screams out pizza. Now they cut to the dining room table. And they're
Starting point is 00:09:29 all sitting around with a homemade pizza. Wait, no, is that? I don't think it was homemade. I think it might have been DeGiorno. No, no, no, no, no. It's on a pizza. It might not have been delivery. It could have been DeGiorno. Yeah. It's on one of those like stone oven. This episode of How to This Can Hit brought to you by DeGiorno. You cook pizza on. I think so. Wait, you heat pizza on. Yeah. I swear to you, she whisked up that pizza. This is what we should really, okay. Yeah. You really went deep with the pizza and stuff. I almost want to find it right now. I want to know, I think you might be vindicated. No, it was on the pizza tin. I definitely wasn't a tin man. Not a tin man, but a heating. But the point is, it was a pizza rock. Like a pizza rock? Yes, it was a tin. It was a cookie. It was like a
Starting point is 00:10:27 tin. Wow. This is the detail that I did not look at at all. Who are you knowing? Anyone have any different show of hands? Who thinks it was a pizza tin? Who thinks it was a pizza rock? Who thinks it was delivery? Who thinks it was DeGiorno? Who thinks it was homemade? All right, so wait, so you're you're you're hypothesizing that she made this pizza. Yes. Well, by the way, her journey with her cookbook is very interesting. Wait, was that what you were upset about? The pizza thing? Well, I was upset about it. Oh, because we were upset about different things then. Yeah. I was upset about the fact that he then says something to the effect of something about cooking recipes from your cookbook or something like that. And she goes, Oh, you know, I don't cook those. I don't
Starting point is 00:11:22 write cookbooks. It bothers me. Don't you know, I don't write cookbooks. I edit other people's cookbooks. No, no, no, no, Jason, I compile other people's recipes for my cookbook. Wait, really? Yes. So her cookbook. Oh, I thought she was an editor, not a not a cookbook. That's what I thought, too. She compiles. But it's other people's recipes. But she was very unhappy. And she goes, I compile other people's recipes. I felt like he fundamentally did not know what his wife did for a living. That's what I'm saying. That is exactly what I thought. I thought the same. His wife has a job and he's basically like, your job is pointless. I don't care. Cookbooks, right? Okay, whatever. So much so that you had to say, you know that that's not my job. I thought the exact
Starting point is 00:12:13 thing. He's a terrible husband and the protagonist of this movie. Yeah, he was a terrible person. By the way, the other really strange thing about her journey, though, is that he says to her, you need to start doing your own recipes. And so you think this is going to be her journey that she's going to come into her own as a cookbook author. You know, really put her own recipes. You've already seen her make a bad recipe. Right. FYI. Yeah. So I don't know how it's going to go, but I'm excited to watch the journey. Now, what ends up happening is that Kristen Chenoweth says, you should do your own recipe book. And then Kristen Davis says, yeah, do it with me. Yeah. And so then the two of them and their friendship was so authentic. That's what I love. But here's
Starting point is 00:13:00 the thing that I do have to say. There are some things about the movie that do hit home. Here's the thing I appreciated about that. It kept Kristen Davis in her place. Don't get cocky, Brunette. You need a blonde to get you through this. Right? Like, hey, hey, hey, no, no, no, you're, you're playing. You don't strive for that. You stay put. But also, Kristen Chenoweth goes and I even, you guys were like, hey, hey, we're all brunettes. We're brunettes. You know that only brunettes listen to podcasts, right? Jason is going to be beaten up by a bunch of brunette women after the show. How dare you. Fuck Kristen Chenoweth. But also Kristen Chenoweth, as she's so moved that Kristen Davis asked her to be part of her
Starting point is 00:13:46 cookbook journey, she's very moved. And then she goes, I have the title. And then she goes, food, food. I thought she said food for food, like food for thought, food for thought. No, no, no. She said food, food by blankety, blank, blank. Like, don't we, like. And by the way, that's the end of the journey. That literal line. We never, that's not true. Wait, that's not one of the Christmas Eve. Oh, what do they say at Christmas Eve? But it was unclear. No, what they said was when, when, oh, I'm so angry. You fucking made me watch this. When, when the guys lose their families and win them back by having some sort of nonsense walk from the hotel all the way through town, which is like in the middle of the street, like with reindeer and garbage. If you haven't watched
Starting point is 00:14:38 the movie. Well, no one is on the road on Christmas. Yeah. If you haven't watched this movie, don't let anything we say make you watch this movie. But this part should take away. It is not so bad. It's good. It's never worthwhile. Just this part, though, particularly bummed me out because I was like, fuck you. Even movie logic dictates that this is impossible. And the families follow the trail all the way back to the house and the guys have created Christmas Eve dinner and they've made recipes from their cookbook. And it all looks gross. It looks disgusting. They are a failure. Lesson learned, Kristin Davis and Kristin Chenoweth. Boy, but that would mean the book was written and manufactured in a matter of like four days. They hold it up. It's not a book yet. It's just
Starting point is 00:15:28 like several recipes. Which is all it's ever going to be. That is clear. But my problem with the Christmas Eve thing is this is supposed to be the big culmination where like they've learned their lessons that being seen from space doesn't matter. And what are those classic lessons? Having been mooster about Christmas is better. And they've supposedly learned their lesson by doing nothing. There's no evidence they've learned the lesson, but the music indicates they've learned their lesson. It starts swelling. And their family that's not talking them comes back even though they've literally changed nothing about themselves. Except they worked together, I guess. To make a terrible dinner that nobody's into. And then everyone's happy
Starting point is 00:16:15 and they're all forgiven. Because the music gets swelled. They still get to be seen from space. Well, but that's the bonus. Oh no, sorry, no spoilers. JK. Here's before we see that scene, though. I do want to ask one question about space. Well, this is my question. Yeah. Just, I hope this is just conceptual. Well, when the twins, by the way, Kristen Chenoweth and Danny DeVito have reared two girls who are Amazon. Yeah, they're also very tall. But we know she's cool. First, introduce the idea of Space Cam or My Earth, whatever it's called. Because they've figured out where the hottest guys in school live. Right. Google Earth, which they can't say. Okay. So Google Earth. So now they're looking. Which is the moment when I was like, this is that
Starting point is 00:17:05 recent. This is when I was like, oh, this movie is at 12 years old. That is when I looked it up and goes, what year? Because I, the whole time up until then, I was like, this is from 1993. 100%. And I was like 2006. 2006. So when they're looking on, when they're looking on My Earth, they see My Earth. They see houses that are near them from space. Many. Now, she says, how are they? All the houses in town are visible. Except ours. And Danny DeVito's responses. Oh, it's because all the bigger houses are visible. Of course, you can't see ours. By the way, their house is huge. But this is my question. Other houses are not visible from space because of the lights on them. No, no, no, you're right. I would argue that no one's
Starting point is 00:17:55 else is no one else has lights. No one has like Google Earth doesn't seek out Christmas lights. And it's not a service that happens in real time. That was the thing that made me crazy. Because then they cut to Cal Penn. Cal Penn with a British accent. Cal Penn was like, I'll do this movie, but let me be British. So nobody knows who I am. And he's like in a space center and they're constantly updating My Earth to see if they can now see the house. Well, then here's the other thing. He does one of my favorite moves. It's like when you go on like a ride at like Disney World. Oh, hi. Here, you got to get in the car. Like, you know, it's like, what are you guys doing here? Like, they're doing a news report. Like, why don't we cut to
Starting point is 00:18:44 the My Earth control room? And he's like, oh, this is on? Okay. Anyway, we're working on. No producer. Here's my question about My Earth. Why wasn't Danny DeVito's house visible from space? I don't know. But wait a second. But this is the thing. I'm sorry. Tess got down. Tess got down on my knees. I wish somebody would come out and put a cake on your back. I wish everyone could see my house from Earth, but everyone, you could see everybody else's house. So you're now not special. You're not special. He's never going to be special. Like if you could see everything. Sorry. But also, you know what? He's actually is special because he's the only one you can't see from space. Yep. By the way, I could see a world in
Starting point is 00:19:35 which this journey makes sense because I think the kernel of the idea of like, I'm invisible, he wants to be, he wants bigger things. What's bigger than space? I get what's bigger than the universe. If the line wasn't even as well in the trailer of you, we can see everyone else's house but ours. So all he's trying to do is be seen as much as everyone else. That doesn't seem it. Like, but the, you're right. The idea of being invisible and feeling that visibility from space is important. Here, can I just, I just want to just to put, you know, when you make a movie obviously like this is based in reality. You would probably go, well, look, if our whole movie is about being seen from space, is that even possible? And the answer is no. There is too much light
Starting point is 00:20:19 pollution on the Eastern Seaboard to see anyone's house from space. And so, yeah, so that is basically, you could never be seen from space. Here's another big question I have. Why doesn't Matthew Broderick put up Christmas lights? Well, if you noted in the scene as he is asked as he's walking through the town with his point secha plant and the locals are putting up their Christmas tree in the center of town and they ask his opinion because he's Mr. Christmas. He, and they have a Marilyn Monroe on the top when his dress being lifted because something crazy happened. And he says, don't put a lot of lights on. We don't want it to look tacky. He has a thing against light. I see. I miss that. It's part of him being so rigid. I miss that. So it's not about him resisting Christmas.
Starting point is 00:21:12 No, no, no. He does Mr. Christmas. Just, it's about Christmas lights. It's about, yeah, it's about like keeping it classy. Keeping it classy. Like when he does his caroling and stuff like that, even he picks, he picks a weird song. By the way, this movie is full of non-Christmas Christmas songs. Like, it definitely was an album released for this. And they would play them over like Jingle Bell Rock and then another song like Holly Bushes Are Fun. You know, it was like, wait, I don't know that one. And they would play it. They were trying to launch it. Yeah, they were really trying to launch it. For the writers, this movie just be a lot easier if Matthew Broderick was a guy who hated Christmas. Yes. Tell me more about this movie. He hates Christmas.
Starting point is 00:21:53 This guy moves in. He's like the town, you know, Grinch. This guy moves in across the street who loves Christmas. Wait a second. That's inherent conflict. Loves it so much. I don't know. I don't know. I got to say, look, I feel like that character is very unlikable. I was maybe, what if he liked Christmas, but just in a different way? In a different way. Also, how do we know he's good at his job? Can he show an old lady that she looks hot with glasses? Oh, that's great. I like that. And then later hit her with one snowball that knocks her off her feet. Which has no repercussions. This movie has no repercussions. He falls in the lake, almost dies. He hits a woman with a snowball. They don't go back to it. Not only that, nobody seems to care.
Starting point is 00:22:38 But he hit someone with a snowball and she flew backwards. Well, she's a frail old lady. There are scenes that felt like they were maybe added on in reshoots. Like, I would like to talk about the sheriff scene. The sheriff is a cross dresser? Sheriff is a cross dresser because that scene existed in and of itself. It had no context for the rest of the movie. It's never called back. Well, it's set up in the beginning. It's set up by the guy at the Christmas tree who says, I don't tell any secrets. The only secret I know is the sheriff likes to wear women's underwear and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, in the beginning. Well, I will tell you that what I noticed in the first minute of the movie, because I was like, who is this movie for? That's what I wrote. Because it's
Starting point is 00:23:24 very unclear. Because you're like, it looks like a family movie, but there's like tons of weird sex stuff. 100%. And by the way, that, I don't know, for me, that boy was too young to have those, call me grandma if you will, but to have those kind of sexual instincts toward Danny DeVito's 20. Oh, no way. I don't think you're right even a little bit. No, no. He was 10. He's a young kid. He's these hot girls. He's these boobies. He was all about boobs. He's not like creepy, but he's that kid. What's that? Yes, he is. Yes, he is. No, he's 12 years old. Yeah. That kid is the, that kid had the same journey that I had with the double trouble twins. They were twins on a TV show called Double Trouble. Oh, I remember that show. They were like, no, please, if you know
Starting point is 00:24:11 this show. Yeah. They're the old people in the crowd. Yeah, by the way, the people in the class are lying. I was obsessed with them sexually. Yeah, I had to get corrected. I was obsessed with that girl on that show where she could freeze time by like, touching her fingers like, oh, yeah. Small wonder. Out of this world, maybe. Out of this world. Yeah. Anyway, the sheriff's scene, though, that. Also, Michelle Pfeiffery in Lady Hawk. Good call. Oh, and Rutger Howe was just like grossing her up. I like a lot of the girls on Rags to Riches, the TV show. That's Vintage Brogrik. Vintage. Sorry. Sorry. No, anyway, the, the sheriff's scene, I get that now I understand that it was set up earlier, but barely, barely. And it didn't, I guess my problem with it was it didn't tie into the story.
Starting point is 00:25:03 No, no. In any way, shape, or form, because that's my problem with it. Yeah. That's my problem. By the way, great point, because, because I felt like the movie wanted to have little, like, almost like this town is like Star's Hollow and the Gilmore Girls. Right. Everybody's got their, got their thing. Everybody's a quirky character, you know. That sounds like fun. Oh my god, I would love. That dude from Lost. Yes, Jorge Garcia. Jorge Garcia. Jorge Garcia is kind of in this movie. But like, in such an awkward way. Yeah. Who is he? He doesn't really, he basically has three scenes. The first scene, he like pushes Matthew Brogrik out of the way to deem Danny DeVito the king of Christmas. Like I'm so happy to meet you. He's like, oh, I have a
Starting point is 00:25:50 question about mistletoe. How should I hang it? Then he's like, oh, you should hang it like this. He's like, okay, great. And Matthew Brogrik's like, oh, I wouldn't have hung it like that. And then he narrates a speed skating thing. And then at one point he's like, it's a bigger deal than it is. He is currently on Lost at this point. At this time, that's the thing. Lost is definitely on the air in 2006. Lost is on and also the daughter is currently on Arrested Development, correct? Oh yeah, I guess. And Fred Armistice is on SNL. Yeah, I mean, these people are working. Working hard to forget that they were in this movie. There is also a guy in this movie, I want to just point out another weird for weird sake character. The guy who probably took too
Starting point is 00:26:36 many improv classes, the car dealer. This kid, I come from an improv background. That was some bad improv. What about the threesome that talks about when they're like, wait, there was a threesome in this movie? Yeah, between Danny DeVito and his daughters. In a way, I would then love this movie. And you know why I know it's possible? There's no way he's their father. But no, where he, you know, when Danny DeVito sells the owner of the car dealership, a car, and we're watching it from outside and the three guys ahead of it literally go like, watch this one, not exaggerating. And then they're like, hey, go sell a car to that one. And then he walks up and he goes, one's born every minute. And then the three of them. And I'm
Starting point is 00:27:28 like, I know that was an improv audition. I know those guys were fun guys. And they're like, I got 1000. What? And it was just so weird. The worst line of the whole movie, the improv line is Danny DeVito is coming into the office and he goes, hold on a second, I just got to send off this important email. That was like, it was so like level one improv student, just important email. It wasn't even an important email. That makes it sound better. It was just like, I'm going to send an email. Yeah, it was really, it was dumb. It wasn't even important. Well, this was 2006, when sending an email was a pretty big thing. This scene where I actually felt very offended and I felt very upset. I think we're going to have the same. We're going to have the same.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Is the scene in which now, I guess, I'm sort of blinking on maybe's name, her real name. Oh, yeah, I'll leave a shortcut. Yes, when her character's journey is that she's kind of frumpy and and to sell in teenager. And then when the twins move across the street, they really kind of take her under their wing. Yeah, take her under their wing. That are date marines that are visiting town. Yeah, right. But it goes both ways because she gives them Jane Austen. That's exactly right. No, Emily Dickinson. Emily Dickinson. No, Emily Dickinson. Should we play that scene? Sure. All right, please. I mean, that's got to go on. Look at that. By the way, they've been in a huge mess before. But now they're bonding for the first time.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Hey, hey, is it getting hot out here? Is it just you, girl? Oh, nice dip. Wow. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Hey, baby, who's your daddy? Who's your daddy? Who's your daddy? Oh, God, I'm your daddy. I'm your daddy. Oh, my God. Then they immediately run into a church to wash their eyes out with holy water. That is not an exaggeration. A church that has a PA system, though, because the PA comes on to alert them that there's the speed skating competition is starting. And it echoes through the church. This is actually, it's a very offensive scene, because they've been fighting this whole time and there's so much animosity between them.
Starting point is 00:29:56 They can't seem to, you know, see eye to eye. There's nothing they can agree on. There's nothing they can agree on. And their wives have had enough. Their wives have had enough. What they connect on and where they meet is verbally harassing and verbally attacking from the middle of a crowd of people they know. This is the problem I have. And by the way, no one else looks into it. No one else looks into it. This is the problem I have with it is more on this line, but go ahead. No, that's it. I have a big problem with that. But mine was more, this is, he's like the pinnacle, he's like the mister eye doctor of the town, who is very uptight and frigid. And all of a sudden he's cat calling a super sexual Christmas show in the middle of this cute town parade thing. Why that show would
Starting point is 00:30:50 be happening. And now he's screaming out cat calls completely out of character. I had a character problem. He said things as though he's at a strip club. Or as if this town's, the version of this show that happens in this town part of the tradition is that the men in the crowd scream obscenities at the women on stage. And every year they have their sexy show. It's as if he's obeying those rules because it is clearly fine for him because the veto is like, you're a man, right? We can agree on this, right? And they're like, Oh, show us your titties. Now, my issue is actually different than all three of yours, which is I feel like Matthew Broderick has never said those words in his life. Well, I think you're right. My big hard dick, you know, you want it. I'm going
Starting point is 00:31:43 to give it to you. You dirty girl. And by the way, that's right. And I think that in the scene, you can see that he's playing that he's looking sort of for permission from Danny DeVito to say these things. It was out of character. And this was my other problem with it is as they're doing their sexy Christmas annual Christmas dance, they have by at this point, they've done a couple moves where they have turned toward the audience numerous times. The whole dance has not just been here in the world where you have clearly seen their face. And you are clearly looking right at them as you're yelling obscenities. They're looking down low. What you're misunderstanding is that they spend looking at the vagina and lower part and then one at the boobs and then not until the
Starting point is 00:32:31 third twirl that they see faces. And even then, I agree with Jason. I agree with Jason. But you know what? It's just so fucked up. It's like, they're children. They know their faces, but boobs hair. That's how it goes. That's what they were looking. That's the order. And the reason why, by the way, it plays into the rest of the story is Matthew Broderick's character is really resisting the idea that Alia is growing up and that she's becoming a woman. And this is how you become a woman. Dancing Sexy at the Christmas Festival. Which is so fucked up is that once he sees her that way, he wants to fuck her. Well, the thing, my problem, and I mean, I know that it's just simply for the joke, but it's not like, hey, looking good or nice ass or bubble up. Who's your daddy?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Your daddy is something more that you say like, who's your daddy? You like that? What? Oh, yeah. All I'm gonna say is that... Oh, shout that out. Carry. Oh, yeah, carry. Oh, you like these things? Samantha likes this? I want all of you to think about that tonight when you're fucking each other and then start laughing and be like, were you thinking about it? I was too, yeah. Me too. And then, and then come. Well, I guess we can all just agree to the fact that Sabrina and Kelly Aldridge, the two twins in the movie, really, really paid off that they practiced for five hours a day for two weeks for that dance number. Five hours a day for two weeks. That dance number is sad. June and I could do that dance number right now. Five hours a day.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Do it. Do it. Five hours a day. Five hours a day for two weeks. That is the excess of Hollywood. Let's go into the audience. Let's see what kind of questions the audience has. Maybe as we raise your hand, if you have something that we have not talked about, something that you saw. There's a couple things I still want to get to too, but here we go. Don't take the mic. I'll hold it. Here we go. Your name, your favorite part of this movie, and your question. My name is Ian. My favorite part is when Danny DeVito becomes the really likable character that everyone's supposed to root for because he's the underdog. And just going off of what you guys were talking about, the actresses practice for five hours a day for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Yes. And these characters, these characters obviously must have practiced a lot and the parents had no idea they were practicing. Amazing point. Great point. Now don't get confused though. Their characters may have picked this up very quickly. Especially the twins. The twins might have already worked out that dance. Like that might be their thing. But I feel like Arrested D would, her character would have needed more time. But you know what, Matthew was so distracted by all of the lights and his anger that he probably didn't notice. Before we ask one more question, I'm just realizing that was Danny DeVito worried at all that these lights being seen from space was just going to be a seasonal thing for him? He just wanted to be seen once. He just wanted one time. One time.
Starting point is 00:36:03 One time. He does clarify it too. He goes, I want my house to be seen from space. And everyone applauds, he goes, outer space. That is true. He did say that. He did say outer. He does. He does take a moment. Your name, your favorite character in this movie and your question go. My name is Connor. I'd say Danny DeVito because he's one of the only likeable people in this movie. It's interesting. People really like DeVito. I think people's love for DeVito is winning out over a judgment. But he is more likeable than Ross. I don't want to see him as the movie progresses. I like him less and less. Here we go. I do love him and it's always so many. But he forged a signature on a car that now comes into play again. What was that? You're
Starting point is 00:36:50 right because they set up a dare, essentially. The speed skating. And then he wins. DeVito wins. DeVito tricks him. So he's brought a test to buy the car. Right. Yeah. But he also steals a car later on. He also steals a car, steals a Christmas tree. Correct. That's a lot. Let's see what it looks like. Things a con man might do. If I was playing $25,000 pyramid and you said steals a Christmas tree, steals a car, I might be like, Danny DeVito. Things a con man might do. Things a thief might do. But there is a darkness to his character and his history. I mean, we find out that he's been in, they're in serious debt, it seems. Just noticing these people have my face on their shirt.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Wow. All right. Here you go. Your name, your question. And, but before your question, your favorite, your favorite character? Susan Pock at the end. Great. That, great. You win. What is the time scale of this movie? Because they were able to do the light thing from the hotel, cook dinner, call all of the neighbors to come bring lights. Just what was the time? Well, yeah, this is a, that's a great, the end Christmas Eve in this town is about a week. Yeah. A solid week. Yeah. Christmas. Yeah. You're right. Like a week's worth of activities happens during one night, including MTV getting from, from MTV to Massachusetts. By the way, why is MTV
Starting point is 00:38:24 the pinnacle of being like, MTV is going to cover it. Danny DeVito would be 60 minutes, would be interesting to Danny DeVito, you would think. Again, that's who this movie was for. Check it out. Sway is coming to our house to do an exclusive report. I don't know if we could do the MTV interview. The Fuse interview is going to be here earlier. All right, your name, your favorite character and your question. My name is Drew, definitely the sexy sheriff. And there's a moment where Matthew Broderick talks about growing up basically in the dust bowl, eating french fries and a milkshake for Christmas. Yet he went on to have this amazing optometry practice. His journey is amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:10 It is amazing. That's America. That is America. By the way, I don't know if it's an amazing optometry practice. I think he's the only game in town. Which by the way, actually we want to bring you back to that. Who's your daddy now makes more sense. He's an optometrist, which is right close to dentistry and dentists are all up to weird shit. So I feel like optometrist, he's ready to yell at who's your dad. I don't know, because I feel like optometrist by giving you the gift of sight are only letting you see the weird stuff they're going to do to you. All right, your name. Oh, I want you to see this in exact clarity. Your name, your favorite character and your question. Patrick Kalpen. Right. And it just bothers me that they show
Starting point is 00:39:55 Google Maps at night. I've never seen a night. That's a great. That is a great point. An unbelievable point. And again, again, we go back to that idea that in the movie makes no sense because ultimately there's no live satellite images going on at any point. You can't just pull up the lives. That would be very different. The movie makes no sense for so many reasons. Oh, lights on the house do go on. The lights on the house do go on. The people in the computer center at Kalpen University are have to turn away from their monitors because the footage being broadcast from space is so bright as to blind them on the computer go fuck yourself. Jason, are you telling me that sometimes when you watch a movie like this, when the light's coming on
Starting point is 00:40:58 really bright, like it doesn't hurt your eyes sometimes that you don't have to turn down the I write the brightness all the time. Brightness and volume. You know what? A computer monitor cannot put out enough light to make you turn away. The only thing that can make me turn away is an image on the computer monitor, which I can send you guys some really fucking weird stuff. All right. Oh boy. Your name, your favorite character, your question. My name's Connor. My favorite character is spread armacens. Spread armacens? Yes. Sounds like you said spread armacens. It did. That's spread armacens. It's porn name. Spread armacens. Jason touched on this a little bit already, but I'm just amazed at how nonplussed everybody is at all the crazy
Starting point is 00:41:48 shit going on. Multiple times Christmas trees catch on fire, one of which is in their house, and they just kind of stand there cracking jokes. They do, they clip. And we haven't even talked about that Christmas tree scene. First of all, do you mean when the tree lit on fire because gas was near it? Or do you mean the time when a military-grade firework, oh, oh, can we talk about this? Can we talk about this scene? Well, I actually thought there was a missed opportunity because I thought there was a missed opportunity there because they've established that in this town there's the Christmas guy, there's the 4th of July guy, and then there's the Memorial Day guy. He offered Danny DeVito could be Halloween guy. Which by the way, for DeVito, that would be a good gig. I see a sequel of
Starting point is 00:42:36 this movie about home haunts. I would like to see a sequel about home haunts. But I assumed we were gonna go to the 4th of July guy for those fireworks. It's literally like they set stuff up and you're just like, okay, let's just watch that play out. Let's just watch that play out like the sheriff does the thing or this urn is the most expensive thing in our home. But that is the whole movie. We'll probably never mention that again. There are episodes of Benny Hill that are more subtle than this movie. And if you don't know what Benny Hill is, get the fuck out of here. All right, this guy. No, but seriously, go home and watch it if you don't know what Benny Hill is. Your name, your title for this movie, if you could title it anything and your question, go.
Starting point is 00:43:25 My name is Chris. It sounds like they just want to punch the halls. Is that what they're talking about? Oh, no, his name is Hall. His name is Buddy Hall. Oh, his last name was Hall. I got that. But do you think you want to punch him? All right, I'll tell you. Good. Wow. Standing ovation for that. I like it. Yes. Here's the question. So my favorite character is definitely Harley from Lost. This question better live up to that. Ask about your favorite character. He had a beer sign around his when they asked for lights. He brought the beer. Anyway, um, so when, when, how did he power that neon sign? So when, when Buddy's light show doesn't work, the whole town shows up to support him and they pull out their flip phones.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And this is the best to try to try and power this light show to be seen from space. They open their dimly lit razors, their razor phones, and they hold them up and like about half of them are holding them up. Yeah. And then the kid points out that no, the plug is just not plugged in. So all that, all that effort was for nothing. Oh no, no, that effort was so that Kristen Chenoweth could sing a goddamn song. That was a good, I forgot all about that. Exactly. No, no. See, that's what you're wrong guy. Here's what I'm wondering, because I don't, so most of the townspeople did not know that the, the switch wasn't turned, right? No one knew. Not even Danny DeVito. But, but, so they, in their minds, are we leaving them thinking? Are they thinking to
Starting point is 00:45:08 themselves the power of song, the power of community, the power of Jesus Christ? And just wishing really hard. Yeah. Is that what they're thinking? They think it's the magic of Christmas. It's Santa. In my mind, they don't think they're gonna be seen from space. They just think now they're having like a, a community, a town moment. I get that. But I, I'm saying when the lights come back on, are they thinking that they did that? Oh, I see. I see. I see. I'm sorry. Yep. Oh, good question. Was anyone else just concerned that the lights that are on this tree literally are like more lights than would be on, you know, I mean, all of Disneyland or something. And it's all one little plug. Like, well, I want to talk about easily sort of loosen. It's like, it's
Starting point is 00:45:59 my, my, it doesn't work that way. We didn't talk about this, but I think it's worth just bringing up for this one point that when Matthew Broderick decides to cut the power, he dresses up like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible. Yeah. And his plan is to simply use a leather man to cut the box open and then throw a snowball. It's fine. But he is so outfitted. How about? Yeah. Go ahead. No, go ahead. How about the fact that in order to execute this piece of shit action, which is meant to walk across the street, he sends his son in pajamas to the, to the top of a telephone pole in the middle of winter. His son wanted to do it. His, he sends his son to do the most dangerous thing while he saunters across the yard and throws a snowball into a, into a circuit breaker or
Starting point is 00:46:47 something. You have brought up the thing that bothered me the most of the entire movie. I love you. Is the snow. The snow never melts and never melts. There's a snowflake that lands on Dum Dum Chenoweth's mouth and it is there for two and a half minutes. And if you look at like the walkway up to their house, the snow never moves. People are outside in robes constantly. There's no cold air. There's no cold air. This is just, this is like on the universal lot or something. Literally. And you can see the sunny day and I seriously, there was one shot where Kristen Davis sort of gave like a half ass like, and I was just like, was the director so caught up in everyone's journey and making sure everyone was nailing that part that he forgot to go, oh, and
Starting point is 00:47:34 by the way, it's 14 degrees outside and you're in a mini skirt. So play that too. No, no need because the comedy was taking it through. I do know where it was shot. It was shot in the place where Matthew Broderick's soul was. It was a really beautiful, beautiful area. A lot of freelance men. One more question from the audience. Who has a good question? We're some ladies with some questions. All right, here we go. All right. What would you title the movie? What's your name and what's your question? Here we go. My name's Shay. I would title the movie like, Sad Dads. That's great. Really good. I was just wondering, Danny DeVito seems he wants to find his passion and can't decide who he wants to do. He should be an audio visual engineer for like Deadmau5s or
Starting point is 00:48:17 something. Yeah, because by the way, but what they also set up about him is that he's a salesman and it seems like great. Really good one. He can sell anything. He can sell snow to an Eskimo. Here's what's problematic. He should have used that in the movie. The premise is that he can sell anything. I have a couple things. So it seems like he loves to sell. He just hasn't found the right product. Well, what you see when he sells the car is he does it and he's like, yeah. And then he's like, oh, he's like, oh, it's almost like too easy to conquer. You know what I mean? That happens a couple of times where he's like, why is to go to space? Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's almost like, you know, the, why would I want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member?
Starting point is 00:48:55 You know what I mean? Like speaking of Deadmau5s. I was going to play the scene where, where Danny DeVito is DJing so much that a smoke comes off of DJ tables. Please do. Again, I'm not a DJ. June, you are. You actually know stuff about being a DJ. I do. I know a little bit about it. Oh, here we go. Watch this. You know as much about DJing as you do about tornadoes. That is why I brought it up. Where does it fall on the scale? You know the most about DJing, I was saying. DJing, I mean, it's DJing Gorillaz, tornadoes, and Street Fighter. Yeah, DJing. And I believe it's science, science. Lasers. Lasers. I'd say DJing is up top. DJing is up top. And everything falls below. Everything follows. Everything follows DJing. Update your charts,
Starting point is 00:49:45 nerds. All right, here we go. This is Danny DeVito in his Deadmau5s performance. And when was that video shot of Danny DeVito waving? When he was getting on his plane at a town. Did the kids? Did the kids just wave at the picture of DeVito in the house? Yes, he did. And you moved your nose. Heavy metal. By the way, this would definitely get a noise complaint. Right? I mean, oh yeah. What an amazing show. And Danny DeVito said he's gonna play that show until four in the morning
Starting point is 00:50:43 every day. Well, because for him at that point, this is, his turn is interesting because for him at that point, it's no longer... Can we do this? You're the director. I'm Danny DeVito. Okay? Yeah. I don't understand my motivation in this scene. Why am I doing this? Yeah. For you at this point in the movie, for your character, Buddy Hall. Yep, Buddy Hall. It's no longer about getting your house seen from space. Well, it's not. That's what I thought my whole movie was about. I know. Now it's about, we're taking the global local. So it's about being seen from across the street in a major, major way.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Wow, okay. How much am I getting to do this movie? Four million dollars. Four million dollars. I'll say the lines. Fuck you. Wait, you got the plane ready? This is my problem with the movie is that it just... Volta, gas up my jet. Yeah, gas up the jet. He no longer really cares here about being seen from space.
Starting point is 00:51:43 It's about creating a huge problem for Matthew Broden. I was going to say, I thought at this point, it just came down to, he has to do this for himself. Oh, that's interesting. What about the other neighbors? I would like to see a movie with the other neighbors. There's no other neighbors. They're in a cul-de-sac. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I just realized, by the way, in that scene, that he's DJing and you're hearing record scratches. Yep. But that's not something that exists in modern DJing on an iPod. Does traffic go entirely around his house? We're looking at a screenshot right now. Like, he comes on an island in the cul-de-sac? Literally, there are no other houses.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I think they even referenced that. What? Yeah, they're like flying themselves. I ask you, what is this? I literally have that written so many times. What is this exclamation point? Is this movie a prank? Perkeps?
Starting point is 00:52:38 I will say, here's some interesting facts about this movie. The budget. One guess what the budget was? $40 million. $51 million. And it's all on the screen, you guys. And opening week was $12 million. It says most films on our show, right,
Starting point is 00:52:59 have had terrible openings, but at least almost all of them have made back their money over the course of their lifetime. This movie has still not made back its money. Amazing. Of $51 million. Directed by the guy who directed Big Momma's House 2. And Big Momma, like, father-like son.
Starting point is 00:53:18 And also, yeah. Blossom. Blossom, yes. I mean, I think, like, hey, you know... And the writer also wrote Big Momma, Santa Claus 2. Their team. And the Black Honeymooners movie. When it works, it works.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah, you heard that right. The Black Honeymooners movie. Wait, is there any chance it was actually called the Black Honeymooners movie? I have to double check. I don't think so. I wish. It was also nominated for a Razzie
Starting point is 00:53:45 for the worst excuse for family entertainment. That is a new category I've never seen. That is... This should just win that every year. Well, obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but it is now time to read a second opinion. These are five-star reviews called from Amazon. To be honest, this is really hard,
Starting point is 00:54:13 because there are very few of them. And I wouldn't even know if these were the best, but I figured I'd have to read a couple. Here they are. This one is from a woman in the Ukraine. Okay, here we go. Please read it in a Ukrainian accent. All right, okay, it goes...
Starting point is 00:54:38 It doesn't deserve five stars completely, since it's not in the same category as It's a Wonderful Life. But I decided to give them five stars anyway, because our house in this film... Because in our house, this is the Ukraine. Because in our house, it's considered a Christmas classic.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Five stars. Matthew Broder wrote that. That poor family. Can you imagine if this was like what you were excited to watch with your family? And then you grew up to be old enough to know, like, oh, no, like, we watched Garbage. Here's another one by Veggie Girl.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I bought this movie. I thought this movie was great. Some other movies that are part of my Christmas tradition are Christmas Vacation, The Santa Clause, Elf Scrooge, Trapped in Paradise, Jingle All the Way, and March of the Wooden Soldiers. I only list them, so you get an idea of the kinds of movies I like.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And if you like those, then it's a good guess you're gonna like this movie as well. Just seeing how they... But that's the weirdest thing. She's applying that we might think she's listing them, like, to name-drop movies. My sincere hope is that if you went to the Amazon page for every one of those other movies,
Starting point is 00:55:57 she wrote a review for that movie using the same list adding this for those movies. Just seeing how they lit up the house in this movie is worth the watch. It looks like he has a TV screen on his roof. It's very cool. Five stars. That review was written in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I wish that. That was actually written, by the way, that was written on... I just saw this now. December 24th. Christmas 2007. So someone on Christmas Day was like, let me get to Amazon and write this up.
Starting point is 00:56:37 You know what? On Christmas, you know, you get moved. There's a lot of emotion in this movie. Guys, that's me. That's really... That's actually really sad. It's really sad. But in my...
Starting point is 00:56:55 Like, because I'll say this, like, for this person, this is that movie and that's a bummer. For me, it's love, actually. I will watch love, actually, on Christmas, and then I will want to go and write an Amazon review. I love that movie. I'm a sucker for that movie. You like Rick from The Walking Dead in there?
Starting point is 00:57:15 Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. To me, you are perfect. Come on, guys. As we wrap up... As we wrap up... Anything that we missed, anything we want to chat about, I know we didn't talk about the toxic spit from the camel. Oh, yeah, we didn't talk about falling into the camel shit.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And the great thing about Matthew Broderick is when he does the mission impossible, is what we're talking about. He falls into the... Oh, there's also a live nativity scene on Danny DeVito's lawn. Which he hires actors and camels. Where the money is coming from, we don't know. Where is the money coming from?
Starting point is 00:57:49 We don't know. He's a con man. Because he's a con man. They're in debt and he loses his job halfway through the movie. Guys, he sells the urn. Yeah, but that was later. That was later. That was way later. That was for the LED screen. So Broderick falls in a huge pile of camel shit.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Then looks up at the camel and the camel spits on him. And he's like, I can't catch him. But the camel spits on him in, like, what? Like, ooze from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Journal movies. Yeah, yeah. Slash, like, slash, like a Bukaki video. Yeah. He basically gets, like, green jizz done.
Starting point is 00:58:26 At which point, he then gets up and gets out of the camel thing. There's no spit or shit on him. I thought of that too and I was like, that is a guy. I was like, fuck this. I did one shot. I did it? I did it. And I won't do it in it if it's not on any other shot. One take. I do one take. It's like my favorite joke in Ghostbusters where Bill Murray
Starting point is 00:58:45 only has the slightest marshmallow on the tip of his head. Everyone else is covered. And he was like, no, do not pour a marshmallow on me. I was slimed earlier in the movie. I did it. That's fine. I would like to mention the nude sleeping bag scene. Oh, we have that too. That is definitely worth mentioning.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I thought that that was a funny scene. I think the premise of that scene is really funny. The lead-up is cool, but the lead-up is bananas. Well, the lead-up is insane. It's just the idea that Danny DeVito took off all his clothes to save his life. I mean, I thought that would be funny, but what's weird about it?
Starting point is 00:59:26 Someone... ...Arville Haley, our clip puller, she pulled a picture of Mavie Broderick for Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Mavie Broderick in the hospital bed here. That is amazing. Double, just get to see the ghost of Christmas fast. And the ghost of Christmas usually.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Just purely for the people here. I don't know if that is a funny scene. I think it could have been... Let's play it and then talk about it. Let's see what's happened. Hang on. What's happened just so you know contextually, because this is after the sled, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:06 So what's happened is DeVito, okay, guys, get ready, has a life-size Santa sled with horses that he has duct tape antlers to. So then they convince Mavie Broderick to put on a Santa suit, get in the thing, and then the horses, of course, take off. He goes all the way through town, gets on the ice of a lake, and falls in.
Starting point is 01:00:25 In a beautiful CGI scene. It's gorgeous. Right out of Avatar. Here we go, so... He's coming too. I think he's going to be all right. We're in the back seat of your wife's car on the way to the hospital. You warming up?
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah. Where are my clothes? You were freezing at death. We had to get you out of there. Where are your clothes? I had to get your body temperature up so I stripped this bolt down and zipped this into this sleeping bag.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Trust me, it works. I've done it a half a dozen times. Oh. Oh. Oh. So, a naked Danny DeVito is caressing Matthew Broderick. I just want you guys to realize.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Not one laugh. Yeah, but... Like, not even like a... He's... Zero. You've done that half a dozen times? Or so. Or so. That could have been a great scene though.
Starting point is 01:01:35 is the director's favorite scene in the movie. They did nine takes of it, and then discovered the camera wasn't on. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:02:08 That was so funny. Okay, let's do that one more time. Oh, see, I bet they weren't at all. Oh, yeah. It's a pretty joyous- I bet they brought this brought them all to life. Really? They were waiting.
Starting point is 01:02:18 This is the best scene, yeah. They were loving it. Oh, yeah. Oh, I feel like the director was at video for the others. It was like, all right. Okay. And then, walked over to where those guys were, and I was like, guys, that one was great.
Starting point is 01:02:32 But let's do it one more time. And I feel like he had to try to convince that. Because in a way, this is a scene that makes Danny DeVito appear actually very lovable. And I think the way the scene could have played out is Matthew Broderick wakes up, Danny DeVito's on top of him, all over him. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Trying to warm him up. It's a sexier way. Trying to warm him up. We will find out later, but at the time, we don't know what's going on. So what do you think's going on? Well, Matthew Broderick's really resisting and training. But I feel like I'm trying to get out of there
Starting point is 01:03:07 and Danny DeVito's like, stop. Who's your daddy? And he's getting even more physical with him. That scene could have been amazing. What? What's that now? All right, guys, would you recommend this movie? We really don't even have to go over this.
Starting point is 01:03:26 No. No, no, no. Not in a million years. This is not a classic. Unless you want to watch, like, Sadness on screen. No. I do remember. This is the one thing I do remember.
Starting point is 01:03:39 And I may be, I'm not exaggerating this. I don't know the exact dates. But I remember this movie came out in, like, November. And it was on DVD in December. Like, I know that to be true. Like, it was, like, something that was, like, the next week. I mean, I will say, I think I do have a very long leash for Christmas movies.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Go to White. By the way, I sat down into this with going, OK, it's going to be whatever. But I kind of am a sucker for a shitty Christmas movie. I'm in. So in that sense, I've never been this furious. Yeah. I mean, you know me.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Am I usually this beautiful? Yeah, actually. Yeah, you are. In that sense, like, and there are some Christmas movies, like I told Paul, Mixed Nuts is one of my favorite Christmas movies. I don't really know if it's a good movie or not. I think it is.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Steve Martin and Adam Sandler and Madeline Conn. I think it's a good movie, but the Christmas of it all really does take me away to another. Oh, The Family Stone. Oh, Is that good? Great movie. It grows on you. To me, that's a perfect example of,
Starting point is 01:04:41 I am certain it is not a good movie. But it weirdly grows on you when it's on cable. But it weirdly grows on you when it's on cable. And it's a Christmas movie. The Christmas, the Christmas of it is the Band-Aid that makes me think it's a good movie. Exactly. Because it, when you think Christmas,
Starting point is 01:04:54 you sort of give it a little slack. I think you're doing that a little with love, actually. Love it. Although there are legitimately four storylines that are total garbage. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, this one doesn't even.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I appreciated the Christmas element of it. But what I don't think I could in good faith recommend this movie. I will also just point out, if you're starting a Christmas movie, what's the best place to start it in an optometrist's office? I mean, there was nothing even like, there was no even big fanfare.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I'm sort of wondering, though, now, as I think about that old lady and how she got hit by the snowball. In the beginning, you could quite tell, because she's looking at these two lenses. And one is obviously so much clearer than the other one. The other one's completely out of focus. But we never really know which one she lands on.
Starting point is 01:05:45 And it almost seems like she prefers the out-of-focus lens. And then says, I look hot. And then says, I look hot. But I guess I'm wondering if she did prefer it. And so she really couldn't see. And then she didn't see the snowball? That's why she was stressed by the snowball. I feel like the snowball came at her fast.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Fast and furious. I did. Too soon. Oh, too soon. I really didn't mean to. I really wasn't saying that. Guys, and we have to end. And now we have to end.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Thank you guys for joining us. Thank you. I'm just kidding. Oh, did not mean to end the show on that kind of note. But give it up for Andrea Savage. She's amazing. And a big thank you to everybody here who makes this show possible.
Starting point is 01:06:28 The entire crew and staff at Largo. Cody, our engineer at Earwolf. Avril Haley, who cuts our clips. We have Nathan Kiley, who does our research. Leanna Waldron, who does all of our graphic design. Katie Dyer, I'm sorry, Katie Dyer, who does all of our cool social media stuff. Without them, we could not do this show.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And without you, we couldn't do it either. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week. Bye-bye. Let's get it.

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