How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Holy Matrimony LIVE!

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

Recorded live from San Francisco, Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1994 comedy Holy Matrimony starring Patricia Arquette, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and directed by Leonard Nimoy. They talk about child mar...riage, Tate Donovan’s accent changes, multiple car crashes, the laundry scene, and much more. (Originally released 02/11/2021) HDTGM is going on tour! Additional Boston & New Jersey dates added. Buy tix at hdtgm.com Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's just your average story about a state fair robbery gone wrong and a child marriage gone right We saw a holy matrimony so you know what that means I didn't hear any source of native wood baby It was yelling like a wild stove that's locked Women just in the Kelly I may see a hard last show but they call And take a blow with me to hit the hoops Control, shake them big horn And the move through the door When I take you from the move of the wind If you run, bring me in the street
Starting point is 00:00:38 Why they hope to blow off steam Just to suck a bunch of odd life attempts Bring shot me in the front, then we can't be standing A lot of people call me when you're bad ass and he's on the line Cranking names, big limits cause they cool his eyes Cause they're bad, Jim, funny, looking kind of night All this shit is getting lovable, Jason is getting laid Jules make the show out of monkey shots in the paint
Starting point is 00:00:58 They're just a bunch of movies while they're making the grade Here's a real question for you out of this kid, hey. Oh! Hello, people of Earth! And hello, people of San Francisco! We are so excited to be with you here tonight to talk about Holy matrimony. I am tall John Sheer. And this is a movie that has everything you want. It's a little bit of Bonnie and Clyde.
Starting point is 00:01:39 It's a little bit of pedophilia. And it's got some star track because it was directed by Leonard D. Moine. Patricia Arquette and Tate Donovan, they're a cool group of carnival workers who steal money. Head to, for lack of, it's a hudderite, but an Amish town to hide out since a little bit like witness and through a long story basically Patricia Arquette winds up being married to Joseph Gordon Levin. Do they fall in love? We'll get into it. But here to break down this movie with me is my co-host please welcome Mr. Jason man Zookas
Starting point is 00:02:38 What's up jerks? How we doing San Francisco How would you say Francisco? Who got horny for this kid sex movie? Who got horny for this kid in this lady? Wow. I wrote wow exclamation point repeatedly in my notes. This movie shocked me. Every time you thought you were getting a handle on it,
Starting point is 00:03:14 it just changed. Oh, oh, by the way, congrats. I don't like this. So deep. OK, it's congr Congrats Leonard Nimoy. Like, who knew you would craft such a weird, weird, sort of sexy kid marriage movie? I need to talk to Joe Gordon-Levin immediately about this movie.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Three men and a baby followed up by this. Weird themes going on. Holy shit. Well, holy shit this movie. Why don't we cause how he San Francisco? You really, why did you do this? Why did you, why did you make us watch this? You assholes.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Well, this movie's got a lot of things, and one of those things is Wigs and Weird Pants. And there is only one person in my mind who can dissect both of those things exceptionally well. My other co-host, Mr. June Diane Rayfield! How are you June? I'm not well. Okay, I'm not okay. I didn't need this movie today.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Wow. I watched it in bed in the hotel today after a shower nude and got up to put pants on. I felt uncomfortable in my room because the movie was so creepy. I got dressed to finish the movie. Let's even start at the top. The movie starts with a bizarre carnival game where it's like a strong man competition that if you win, you blow up Marilyn Monroe's skirt. You don't blow up. You don't physically do it yourself. Oh no. You don't get the right to be like,
Starting point is 00:05:30 you trigger some sort of fan action. But even that in a kid's movie felt like, wow, okay. Wait, I'm sorry, this is a kid's movie. I mean, wouldn't you think it's a kids movie? This movie is basically witness with a child protagonist and it's just as sexy. I'm glad we're starting at the Carnival because I was obsessed with... Now I know it's a cash business
Starting point is 00:06:07 but I was my mind kept on wandering back to how much they're making per night so much that they can offer a $25,000 and how much did they steal $1.2 million? When I saw that, I was like, it's just a state fair. It's a state fair. It's a state fair that doesn't even look that expensive. No. And the crazy thing is when there are close ups of the cash,
Starting point is 00:06:40 people are showing up at the state fair with $100 bills. Yes. Oh, wait. It's by the way. It's all $100 bills. Yes, oh wait, it's $100. It's $100, I saw a couple of times when they showed that cash. It was a couple of singles, too. And I was like, are they just like rolling singles? And some of it is in stacks. And some of it is in rolls.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I was like, what are you doing? Pick a link. He only, take Donovan, only took a very small tray of money. It wasn't like, by the way, the money's not being held the right way. I have a lot of issues. What do you mean it's not being held the right way? Well, it just seemed like it was like kind of thrown into the safe. Like it just didn't, it just didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah, no, I know what you're saying, Paul. It wasn't like Broadway. One of the best parts of playing Monopoly was being the banker and organizing your cash. What are you talking about? That's the best part. That's the best part. The one I was to waitress.
Starting point is 00:07:31 The best part is being the banker. Of course. That is heartbreaking. It's the best part. You have all the control. You have all the control and you can organize it. You know what I used to do. I used to take a 500 and put it under a 5
Starting point is 00:07:47 So people didn't know how much money I actually have You know What is this monopoly tips the podcast? What the fuck is happening right now You know what I would do in the game of shoots and ladders? No, but I know what you're saying, Paul. So when you run a business, that's an all cash business. There has to be a better system than the one that was happening in that safe.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It was very haphazard. And it didn't even see the... It's a fucking carn, it's a traveling carnival. But I mean, I've shocked they had a seat. I mean, what are we talking about? Like, it is a carnival. By the way, is it a traveling carnival? Because this goes to one of the biggest issues
Starting point is 00:08:36 I had with the movie, which is just the timeline. I thought that carnival was in the same spot that she left it in. Did 48 hours pass? was gonna say how long? Well, I don't know I think a state fair from what I know of like In Los Angeles they have a state fair that runs for about a month. Yeah, so it's like you can go there for about a month She was in the colony for one month. Oh I don't know how long I don't have to say the state fair could be that
Starting point is 00:09:04 I would guess that Well, I don't know think about how much don't have to say that state fair could be that throw away. I would guess that. Well, I don't know. Think about how much happens to Joe Gordon Levit's character in the span of that month. He goes for being a kid in school. His brother comes back from the big city. He goes to town and his brother dies in a car crash that is so violent.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Joe Gordon Leitt is in two staggeringly violent car crashes in this movie. He also, by the way, Joseph Gordon Levitt, JGL, is ejected from that car in a way that I'm like, wow, his body was perfectly positioned. Because he's unscathed completely. You know what nobody in this movie ever does? Morn Tate Donovan.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Guess what these people aren't interested in? Honoring their dead. Everybody's like, we got to move on.org, this is what we're doing. They don't even move this car from the crash site. It's like some sort of tribute. And these are people who... Every step of the way are like, Huh?
Starting point is 00:10:16 I think we gotta let this kid marry this lady. Huh! I think we gotta let this kid drive this lady to America to return this money They put him in the driver's seat. How old is he in this movie? Oh, he's 12. 12! What? This movie is actually hard though. This is what's hard though. This is what's hard, so Joseph Gordon-Levitt plays a 12-year-old in this movie, and he looks like a very young 12-year-old.
Starting point is 00:10:52 He's also 13-year-old when he's shooting this. Okay, he's 13 when he's shooting it, but he looks like he's eight. Yes. And even now, see, this is the problem. I wish they had an actor that looks like a more mature 12-year-old. Because the problem with Jit, yes, because the problem with Joseph Gordon-Ledd is, even now, on this very day, he looks under age as an adult male.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Right. If he was with Patricia Arquette at the same age she is in this movie, you still feel like, oh, it feels a little weird. Yes. Like, it's amazing. Here you still feel like, oh, it feels a little weird. Yes. Like, it's amazing. Here's the only thing I feel a little weird. The movie exists in a world in which a 12-year-old marries an adult that is regardless of the looks of the 12-year-old,
Starting point is 00:11:36 it's a crime. And tradition. What's happening? That's right. I'm a tradition. And they let him drive. The border police coming into America, like, hey kid, what's up?
Starting point is 00:11:50 And he's like, I'm with my wife. I'm 12 years old. We're going into town. And they're like, cool man. That border cop doesn't bat an eye. I just want to say, here's the thing build that wall I don't want 12-year-old Canadian sneaking into this country with their grown-up wives
Starting point is 00:12:14 Before we let date Donovan go away. I just want to talk because I like date Donovan a lot But the accents that are going on but the accents that are going on in this movie. Whoa. Whoa. I pulled a moment here where I shouldn't say I pulled it, an Avril Hallyard producer pulled it, where his accents changed. When he died 24 minutes into this movie,
Starting point is 00:12:41 I wrote, oh, that's why he's been going so hard. He's like, I'm only in this thing for 24 minutes, I got to make an impression. I was shocked when he died. I did not expect him to die. I thought he was going to run off. But this final scene here, maybe it was a day where they were shooting a lot of stuff very quickly, but I believe his accent does change a few times, so take a listen to this. Nothing else, a black lacquer on you like the 60s left over waiting to get brainwashed. No phones, no TV, no newspapers, nobody will find us. And it's normal accent.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Now we'll continue. The commune, it's a colony. Religious... Changed. Accent has changed. We'll keep on going. colony won a 300. Changed even more. Now he seems now to be Irish.
Starting point is 00:13:38 In this portion of the scene, he is for real Irish. Well, we think if Peter the answer is no, I don't wear tie dye. I don't do chance. OK. I don't do the singing nuns. OK, you've got a better idea where we can hide out. Now it's like surfer. Pull over, give me my half the money, and I'll go to Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Nobody knows me for sure. Pull over. No, I don't feel safe if you're out there loose. Don't trust you. I don't feel safe if you're out there loose. Don't trust you. I don't trust you. And the fact that he can slip back into it, as if he was whole, like, I would imagine it would be a kin to someone who has a stutter, and they work very hard to make sure they don't have a stutter. It's like, he works very hard not to have this natural, dramatic accent come out, but when
Starting point is 00:14:26 he's pressurized, it's flowing. It is I. Yeah. This is something about, but did anyone else on this stage feel that there was something about the colony that I liked? There was something about the colony that I liked. There was something about knowing they were so cut off from the rest of the world and knowing that they were just in their own little land with their families in this small community. And by the way, the joke of this movie is like, we're also upset about this 12-year-old marriage, but there has to be rampant sexual abuse and God knows what's going on in this colony.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And that's not why I want to be there, but I just, there was something about it that I was like, I did have one issue. Simpler times. I did have one issue with the movie. Simpler times. Simpler times. I did have one issue with the moon. Simpler times. Simpler times. When women served their men lunch and wished them well. Simpler times.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And 12-year-olds could get married because of honor and for no other reason to adult women from the outside world. Listen, I felt like cool hand-luker something. I know, but there was something about the simplicity of it. Now, I was terrified of the elders. I would never want to be alone in a room with those elders. But there was something about the school. The elders?
Starting point is 00:15:57 The elders, are you kidding? The elders got burned like five times. Yeah, by Patricia Arquette and a child. The elders were like shown up every time. When I felt the elders were like, okay, well look, you gotta be married, you gotta say you be a husband, they weren't very strict. They were like, okay, you can come back,
Starting point is 00:16:16 we gotta marry her. Like it was there, they seem very Lucy Goosey for elders. Like I didn't feel like- They approach a child. Yeah. And are like, hey man, you're gonna get your wife in line. They say they imagine the pressure. They're putting on a 12 year old.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Hey, hey man, you got a 20 year old line. She's got to clean those fucking flower boxes, bro. What's up? I didn't know what you're doing. I did have an issue though at one point, because Patricia Arcade is in that community community and the women are are hoeing and she goes and she's like what why don't the men do this but it seems like in that community everyone's doing manual labor. It wasn't like the women are doing of the-
Starting point is 00:16:59 But here's the problem with the women and their labor. So I was obsessed with first of all the laundry scene. I mean we can talk about that basically for the rest of the- I'll talk about the physical comedy. problem with the women and their labor. So I was obsessed with first of all the laundry scene. I mean we can talk about that basically for the rest of the physical comedy. Like the that when she does rip up the garden straight into the laundry scene. Of course, but then so much. But then there's the scene where all of the women are on ladders and they're all cleaning. And I for the life of, they're all cleaning the walls. But they're all cleaning one spot on the walls. So I just couldn't imagine how they got into that task, that if they started at the bottom
Starting point is 00:17:35 and then just did one row and then went up, but there was no sense of like, we're cleaning the walls. It was like, we're cleaning this spot of a white wall. I guess my point is they were, the women were not good. Now I don't, right. At the physical labor, but what I don't know is, were they purposefully, but maybe they were sort of slowing the company line. If you know what I mean. But maybe they were sort of slowing the company line.
Starting point is 00:18:05 If you know what I mean. There are 12 women standing next to each other with hose, all hoeing the same thing. That's what I'm saying. We are talking about men. When people are being, I'm certain forced to marry their cousin. Okay, but what I'm saying is, They might just be like, well, cleaning the wall means this.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It means they don't have to go home to my 12 year old husband. Anything. If it means that I can stay here and sing on ladders with my friends, then guess what? I'm gonna do that. Yeah, and we're gonna convince the men and the elders that it takes this long to clean a wall. Joke, jokes on them.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I will say this, this group, while you may short change them and say that they're Amish or not they're Hutterites, and there's a book called The Hutterites in North America where they comment on this film, and they say this film provides a very inaccurate portrait of the Hutterites. A leverant marriage does not exist among the hoterites. A letter of writ marriage means that if you dye your brother is obligated to marry your widow. And they say that you dress moderately.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You don't have to dress the way that they showed them. And the only people that can be married in a hoterite community are people that are baptized. So there's a book written that addresses this movie, which is amazing. Guys, let's all buy that book. Let's really confuse a small author. Who's like, fuck, hey, hey, babe? Something's going on.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Somebody just ordered 700 copies of my book, babe? Hey, Bane! The Hutterites and New Yorker there again. And then just pan out and the house is empty. But his wife, there's a skeleton and she's wearing an apron that she's dyed. Sir, the Hutterites just in Canada? This is called the Hutterites and North America.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I believe from the research that I did today on Wikipedia, there are a few communities, not many communities, but yes, kind of more in that part of our continent. Oh. Where's she? Washy answer. Oh. I enjoyed trying this coming through.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I will say, I enjoyed. I didn't know anything about this movie. I was so happy to not know anything. I didn't know even the image on the, I didn't see the image on the internet. So I'm watching it and I'm like, I got it. You know, bad, bad, you know, they're on the run. Okay. And then when it was like, oh, wait a minute, this is where they're going? Fully on board for this.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Tiny Joe Gordon Levitt, and then when Tate Donovan died, I was like, whoa, what? And then when they say you have to marry him, and she's like, yeah, I'll do it. I was like, hang on a second. For then on every fucking move this movie made, I was like, bravo, Spock. By the way, the only thing that I couldn't get out of my head
Starting point is 00:21:08 while watching it was, it felt so similar to me to True Romance, another movie that she's in. It's like they're on the run, they have this money. But you replace Christian Slater with a 12 year old boy. And by the way, you could argue this movie is more transgressive as a result. Yes. Who would have thought there would be so much gunplay
Starting point is 00:21:30 about a romantic married couple on the run with stolen money and the male lead is a 12 year old boy? By the way, you replace Elvis with Marilyn Monroe. The similarities are there, people. It is really weird. I will say this, Patricia Arquette is phenomenal. Yes, she is. Joe Gordon Levin is great.
Starting point is 00:21:53 This movie I think was supposed to be broader, but because Patricia Arquette is so good, she grounds it and makes it real. And then so tonally you're like, oh, wait, what's that? Yes. It's hard to swallow because it's either fun or totally crazy. It's sort of like, this is some serious shit. Well, there's whole scenes. There's whole scenes like the sneaking around
Starting point is 00:22:18 when she's like, why don't you take this money and put it back with the rest of the money. And then he leads her on a wild goose chase. That's like shot like a hitchcock thriller. Yeah. Of like mist crossings and he's very smart and hiding and alluding her. And I was like, this is tension, there's like tension being built here in a movie that I don't think is about tension.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Like, this is... The little Neymoy is doing like a version of like Vertigo. I will say that this is a scene that I want to talk about a little bit. We get it. I said Hitchcock, you got to say Vertigo because of unspool. Yes. Is that the deal? It's on the list.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Some people consider it to be that Hitchcock. I said Hitchcock. I said Hitchcock, so they get it. You don't need to drill down and mention one of the Hitchcock movies that's called The Bay of Files. The Bay of Files puts it at number one. Is that worthy? I don't know. It's a The B.F. I-List. The B.F. I-List puts it at number one. Is that worthy? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:06 It's a conversation that we did have on unspooled. This is the scene that I really wanted to talk about. When JGL catches her cheating in the bar, because this is a scene that talking about like the dramatic impact of what's going on. This is where he says, where he says, aren't I a man enough? When he's saying aren't I man enough for you? Like I'm like I'm crushed by this kid. The weight of the world is on this little boy's shoulders. He's being saddled with an adult who is more of a child than he is. And he's trying to say, like, isn't the love that I'm being forced to give you by honor enough?
Starting point is 00:23:56 And she's like, bruh, no. But I do think, here's the one way the movie is successful thematically. The one way is I do think it illuminates some problems with marriage in general. There's moments which is the incomprehension of the movie. There's moments where you know where you listen to him and you listen to these monologues from him and you're like, oh, God, aren't we all just play acting these roles? And this is just this weird, constructive, like what we're supposed to do
Starting point is 00:24:33 and how we're supposed to behave, and it's just all bullshit. Wow. No, no, no. Anyway, that's what I walked away with. Well, no, I mean because they're definitely as a take. Like, this feels like the take of a person that may have come from a divorce or going through divorce because there is that scene where, first of all, I need to break down that whole
Starting point is 00:25:02 casino, that indoor casino that looks like the outdoor of a shitty motel, but it's indoors, there's a pool. Okay, I could talk about the fight between that man and his wife for about an hour. Whoa, whoa! I'm not the man, then sits down next to a child. Again, a child and is like, ugh, women, am I right? And the kids like, I get it. All they want is money. Everybody, everybody in this movie
Starting point is 00:25:36 is cool with a 12 year old being married. But he is also, that man is fully clothed and sits down, I mean the psychologist couldn't not wrap my mind around it. Fully clothed sits down at an indoor pool, just about an edge for me. But you're upset that he's clothed at the pool? Yes. Well he was. If he's going to sit there, he should be in bathing.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yes, he should be ready to swim. Otherwise get the fuck out of here. Why is he there? June, that I first of all I want to I take issue with this again if you've not seen the movie Picture hotel. It's in a square. There are rooms all going around the square It's like a courtyard type hotel with a pool in the middle of the lobby Yes, but it is not like but but it's it's it's clearly the pool area It's not like oh, there's lobby guests and a little Starbucks key-offs. It's like to fight with his wife
Starting point is 00:26:27 and it just happened to be near the pool. Paul. I don't think they were on their way to the pool. I don't think he's gonna swim. No, I think they were going somewhere and he's like, ugh. What is he looking at? Why is he lurking fully clothed with no intention
Starting point is 00:26:42 to swim by a pool? He's lurking. He's fighting with his wife. This is amazing. Yes, but if you're in a fight, like if we're in a fight, I don't walk away from you and think, like, let me go, let me go sip and watch the swimmers. Oh, you don't like that he took the chair
Starting point is 00:26:59 next to the kid. That's your issue. So you know, and I don't like that he's by the pool. You think he's like a purve going to the pool in his pool. He's definitely a perv. Oh, see, I saw a man having like a fight with his wife and the only place he can go is away from. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Which is into the pool area. No, because she walked away from him. I felt like he was so worked out. He was like, oh, I just need to sit down and bitch about my wife for a second. I'll talk to his 12-year-old. With a like-minded guy, who talk to this 12-year-old. With a like-minded guy. Who's just a 12-year-old farmer from Canada?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Who's married to a 32-year-old woman who's trying to return $6.2 million to the county payer? By the way, I mean, I have issue with this pool because the pool's, I think, also in the middle of a casino. I think it's a casino. I don't know. Listen, let me be very close. Here's a no world.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Here's something I would never do. Get in that pool. Of course, but Jason, would you ever, if that pool was there, would you ever go to sit just a foot from the edge of the pool? Well, that's your issue. It's your out. Well, JGL though.
Starting point is 00:28:01 JGL is the one who sits there first. But he's a child. He's excited about an indoor pool. I'm fine with him there. He's not, he doesn't seem excited by it. He likes ice cream. He likes ice cream so much. He got a Sunday and a milkshake.
Starting point is 00:28:18 But does he love her? And that's the issue that I had with this movie. Because he goes from saying. That's the issue? Yes. Because he goes from writing on the population sign with like and one dumb girl. And then he's like makes her it's very much painting.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Is that how we mark that sign that's clearly a stencil of a zero. And he wipes it off and there's a marker on a string. So they're just, how often are they changing the population? A lot of people are dying in violent car wrecks. Now listen, I didn't see that car wreck, but I asked you Paul, I said, did he? Wait, you didn't see. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:28:58 I sort of just looked away at that point. I got distracted. I got distracted with what was going on in the world. So I didn't actually see that scene. But I asked you, I said, I don't understand how did they crash the car. And you said that Joseph Gordon Levit grabbed the wheel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yes. It sounds like he murdered his brother. There was, he should, he didn't, but they were having a tussle. Yes. A tussle over the wheel. He was distracting the driver, which makes him a killer.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's a vehicular homicide. A lot of them was drinking a beer. Yes. And he was trying to get the beer out of his hand. By the way, he drank so many beers at that bar, like he goes, go get an ice cream, and then cut to 10 beers Surrounding take down and the kids not back
Starting point is 00:29:49 What happened to the kid how are you? And why wouldn't he bring pictures you are kept to have a beer Joe Gordon-Levitt doesn't feel bad at all about killing take don't know so he did kill him No, he didn't but he contributed to the accident for sure No, so he did kill him. No, he didn't, but he contributed to the accident for sure It's behavior that I suspect would haunt him for the rest of his life But just like every single other person in the movie he does not mourn that death one day The car was also coated in gasoline
Starting point is 00:30:20 Because that car explodes Also like two rocket launchers shot into it. Immediately. It explodes. Instantly. Joe Gordon Levitt should be, I don't know, very injured from the car crash. He is not. I would just say I would settle for a scrape. He is nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I mean, after the car crash, he looks better than he did before. Here's what I'm going to say. This is a movie in which Joseph Gordon Levin plays a 12 year old boy who does all of the beats of a movie that were written for an adult character. Everything he's asked to do is what adults, he fights, physically fights,
Starting point is 00:31:01 that man slaps him in the face. He has fist fights with adults. He drives trucks, tractors. He has a gun held to his head. He marries a grown woman. He pretends for his friend's sake that he and the woman he's now married to are fucking. Like, every character being for this, again, 12-year-old boy, are those that an adult would have? Well, but here's my pitch. Like, I feel like this movie was pitched like this.
Starting point is 00:31:33 It's taming of the shrew, but she marries a kid. And everyone, and by the way, this is the writers of the rock. The wrote this movie. So, but it is, I mean, that's why I keep on thinking of it. It is taming of the shrewd who is certain extent, right? I mean, that's what I think, sure, what it is trying to be. But it's a weird thing because they can never really fall in love. And I mean, I guess they do because she's
Starting point is 00:32:01 going to come back in 10 years. I guess so. I mean, I guess they do because she's going to come back in 10 years. I guess so. I mean, I don't know. I guess you're right that she ultimately, he's the child, but he understands like his values and priorities are in check and she is essentially a see-through backpack, like in human form. By the way, I didn't know they had see-through backpacks back then when they made this movie. I thought that was very fact in four. 1994, this was like the age of see-through-back. Oh, okay, I didn't know they had seafood backpacks back then when they made this movie. I thought that was a very fact in the movie. 1994.
Starting point is 00:32:26 This was like the age of Seathrough backpacks. Oh, okay, I didn't know that. It's so hard because, I mean, I had a Seathrough backpack, but there's no way to wear it where you don't look like a trash, like a pile of trash. It doesn't matter how organized it is. But the fact that you're backpacked never look good. No. Never. It doesn't matter what's in there. It doesn't matter how organized it is. But the guys that did your backpack never look good. No. Never. It doesn't matter what's in there. It doesn't matter how tidy it is.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's always gonna look terrible. I always thought that was just a conceit of like then now post 9-11 like you have to go to a stadium so you have to have a clear backpack. I didn't realize that it was- That's why you think we got clear backpacks? I never saw them before that. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:04 But you think clear backpacks were an answer to terrorism? Wow. Absolutely not. Really? There are, at the women's march, the first women's march, they asked that people show up with clear backpacks. So there is an element of, there is a security element to clear backpacks.
Starting point is 00:33:21 There's a lot. But they were a fashion state- But it was like in the early 90s. Yeah. Well, if we're talking about fashion, we talk about pants. And I feel like we should just pull these photos of the pants up because Patricia Artkek gets into her own clothes at the end of the film. And this is the pants that she's wearing. They're very wide.
Starting point is 00:33:43 They're very wide. I have another one. They're almost coolots. Yeah. You'll see here. They're very wide. They're very wide. I have another one. They're almost coolots. Yeah. You'll see here. They're belt. That belt must weigh so much. This was so crazy. This scene with this guy.
Starting point is 00:33:53 This is why I was so confused about the timeline, because it seems like everyone is expecting her any minute. Well, that's it. Like, why is everyone staked out the fair? Like, why would she ever come back unless she was returning the money? What is that kid's t-shirt? I quit my job?
Starting point is 00:34:09 I'm like, that kid I feel like it's like, what's, is there a movie going on here? Like, I feel like they stole this shot at an actual county fair. But I wanna say this, like, when you look at this screen grab, but you can't see if you're listening to the podcast, but if you look at it, this is a shitty state fair. But I want to say this, when you look at this screen grab, but you can't see if you're listening to the podcast, but if you look at it, this is a shitty state fair. This is like a street fair.
Starting point is 00:34:32 This is not like, this is not like, this is the entrance. This is the entrance to the fair way over there. Right, but I think to your point, Paul, that I don't think of street fairs, I think of it going to Vegas, or going even to Amal, I I'm going to blow all my money. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:46 You know, I think of spending like maybe $40. Okay. And a street fair? $10. You're going to get a $10, 10 minute back rub from those guys, right? Then you're going to get what? You're going to get some sort of a candle for about five, right? And then you're going to get lunch and that's it.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So I just don't know how this fare is making this amount of money. Well, I mean, but I don't think he's taking the profits from the caramel apple people. I think he's just doing ticket sales. Oh, for the rides and the attractions. Just the entrance fee. This also seems to be an agricultural fare.
Starting point is 00:35:22 This is a big, it's like a, this is like a big endeavor, you know. And there is a moment where someone is advertising the benefits of a backhoe that then JGL gets in and then captures this man to the audience's perception, though, they have no idea that this man is bad. But yeah, when he is scooped up, they start applauding. But it looks like someone just put a man and in a back oh And he doesn't seem to be evil at all ever like that guy that guy just slapped that kid full on in the face
Starting point is 00:35:55 But they just he's Robert that kid in the face in front of all the he was like who oh bad. Oh, I guess But I feel like that's kind of part of the court. This is a tough look for the FBI in this movie. Sure. They don't come up for it. They don't come up for it. This is a smart FBI. By the way, Courtney B. Vance.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Courtney B. Vance as the head. Oh, yeah. This crazy thing about this, though, is I kept on wondering. Once they hit the road and she has the money nearby, They're on the road for a little bit. And I just kept them thinking, why isn't she just grabbing that bag and running? Like, there's no world in which he can stop her. She drives, she's a grown woman.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Like, she could outrun him. And I felt like they were setting up a premise where he was somehow going to overpower her. Oh no, I think they were trying to convey that she is not perhaps because she is now more feeling responsible for him or feeling like and she went she finally but it does mother or is she a wife? Why I think she, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Ultimately, I don't know a mother figure. I don't know a mother figure, Paul. Is she a mother figure? Is there going to come back in 10 years? No. No. No. I think she's not coming back in 10 years.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she's not coming back in 10 years. I think she comes to feel some, some sense of obligation to him or not a lot of them. But some sense of caring so much so that she does finally. Because she realizes that she doesn't have family and this is the only family she's got after they sleep in the paper shredded car and the, and she pulls up, hey, like on top of her, like it's a blanket. And there's all those weird, like, Tonka trucks in there. Like right on, like right on toys that are not boxed in big boxes, but yet, like, displayed as if they were
Starting point is 00:37:54 in a toister, like they're individually out. Like if you were shipping those, there would be another big box. And they put in so many train sounds, just because they were, I feel like trying to cover the fact that it was not really a train They were like over did it on the train sounds. I Guess I I would just expect that earlier she would say he was $500 like buy And just run away
Starting point is 00:38:20 But she did abandon him at one point where she took the money she took off and then he was captured by the FBI guy And then they chased after she did do that, but then she didn't even leave them money She's like picture gets on the bus like she doesn't really care that much about him Yeah, at a certain point she does she fails, but she's still like hopes you she still makes a gesture So that it feels like he you like, oh, she's at least, I think the movie is trying to set up that she's softening to let other people in blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, to answer your question to now and thinking about it, I think the movie takes place
Starting point is 00:38:54 in about seven days total because the FBI, first of all, that disappears for a full hour of the movie. Like, he finally gets that Hutterite community. But like- When they come back to him and I was like, Oh, right, this guy. But then he's on their trail hot and heavy. So the next day, the robbery is in the paper
Starting point is 00:39:15 in a yellow section because, you know, most papers are said to have that bottom corner of the paper for in yellow. And I had an issue with that too, because he also wrapped all the money in the crime, which is a crazy thing to do. He put the evidence of the crime in the description of the crime. Not smart at all.
Starting point is 00:39:41 But FBI sends them out there. And then I think it's seven days. I think that that montage is the most wishy-washy moment there. But I think it's like an intense seven days. For that 12-year-old boy, yeah. He think about it. His brother returns, dies. He gets married, divorced. He's in a car crash with his brother. He's in a car crash with his brother. He's in a car crash with his wife. He fights a grown man from the FBI.
Starting point is 00:40:08 He gets a gun put to his head. Yes. Like a lot happens to that chite. Like, he also, he's never left this colony. So he must be experiencing such sensory overloads. He doesn't know for money. Oh my gosh, the silence, the sights. He doesn't know what divorce is as a concept.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Yep. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's pretty wild, guys. This movie doubles down at every opportunity to say, no, no, no, these people are married and they're experiencing all of the trials and tribulations that married couple Experience it is an allegory for marriage only there's a child in the marriage Do you think that when he goes into that one room and she's that old couple at the table that's him looking at his future self?
Starting point is 00:41:04 I mean that didn't look so bad to me. Two older people in their underwear sitting at a table and not even eating at their in their most. They were playing a board game. Is that what they were doing? I thought so. You were right. I don't know. I'd like to know if they were, and I like that you mentally put it in. You're so uncomfortable with old people in their underwear that you're like, they must be playing a board game. I thought that they were relaxing, having a nice night, just retired from dinner, got
Starting point is 00:41:40 in their comfy co-sees, and then sat down for... Comfy co-sees, they're in like underwear. It just feels like that would not be comfy co-sees, and then sat down for... Comfy co-sees, they're in like underwear. It just feels like that would not be comfy co-sees. Also, Joseph Gordon Levit goes, walks into their room, and starts like feeling up their bed to be like, can we share your room? Like, why would that happen? See, I wish there was more,
Starting point is 00:42:02 because I feel like the movie set up that he's going to, yes, tame her. But she never really got, we never got to play the game of him being so confused and blown away by what's out in the real world. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't really seem to ever take it in. No. He doesn't take in very much of, like, any, there are no emotional stakes for this kid at all.
Starting point is 00:42:26 He has witnessed his brother die, everything is in there. I mean, this kid has never seen a television. He must be blown away by what's going on out there. He called the swimming pool a fishing hole, or a swimming hole, what did he say? Yeah, see now I understand why he was sitting there. He was like, I'm gonna catch dinner tonight's dinner. I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I genuinely don't know. There was a lot of head scratches in this. They do kiss. And I think this is the money shot that we've been waiting for. Let's just watch it for a second. We actually think that I could turn out to be a good cause. You already are.
Starting point is 00:43:19 He's 12. That's forever. I mean, that's sexual. This is sexual. She has like spank on her mouth that she has to feel like. So that pack. Oh. Bandana as belt.
Starting point is 00:43:44 How vanna. Feel I ever see you again? I'm a little bit as belt. Havana. Will I ever see you again? No. But you'll see that soon. Well... Doing that again a 10 years! I feel done, I will! What?
Starting point is 00:44:10 That's a contract! That's what I'll think! I'll do that again in 12 years and she says, if you don't, I will. That's a motherly relationship. Listen, the relationship between mothers and sons is... Listen, sometimes mothers and sons kiss. Sometimes they even make up. Paul, I don't know what...
Starting point is 00:44:36 You should be able to really imagine a world in which a son might mistakenly French kiss his mother Can we wrap our heads? I just want to go on record I just want to go on record that as a story has grown My mother is without the Los Angeles, but also It was an attempt It was not ever Seen through so Your teeth It wasn't a tent. It was not ever seen through. So people want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So you're a tease. People have now, have now, mythologized this as if like, I have like a make out session. I've heard it and people are like, oh, you know, I did, they're like, oh, I did not do that. You have said in the past though that you and your mom
Starting point is 00:45:27 used to play Spin the Bottle. But that's a kick game. Here's a clip of Patricia Arquette on James Corden, where she talked about this kiss. You have worked with some of the finest actors on the planet at Bought but there was one actor in particular where you were a very intimate experience. You were this actor's first ever kiss.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yes. Explain. Well, I think it was about 12 years old. The story of the movie was that it's like this how to write community and in that community his brother leaves and we do some crimes and get all this money and then his brother dies and in that community and he hides the money somewhere and that community if your brother dies by the way Michael Fenja just like yep yep make cool cool cool, cool, cool, cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool. You can tell us she's like walking into explaining it.
Starting point is 00:46:29 She's like, oh boy, I gotta explain. I like that she's breaking down the whole plot of the movie just to justify the fact that she made out with a child. All right, here we go. Mary is white. So I end up marrying a very young Joey Gordon Levin. Okay, wow. And we have to have a kiss. So I end up marrying a very young Joey Gordon Levin.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Okay. Wow. And we have to have a kiss. And his mom is like, this is his first kiss. He's nervous. I'm like, I'm nervous. Biggie's nervous. So I went up to him and I was just like, hey, this is just pretend. This isn't really your first kiss, either. Like, you get to really have your own first real kiss.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And he's like, yeah. You feel okay, are you? Right, right, right, right, right, right, I totally got it. Yeah, no problem, no problem, baby. He wants really, like, it's fine, don't worry. I love how the audience is like, I'm like, he's 12 years old! Did you not miss?
Starting point is 00:47:24 And by the way, that was this year. She is talking about only matrimony and wealthy. What year is the movie? 1994. 1994. The movie was not released. Ever? No.
Starting point is 00:47:40 It was a budget of, do you want to guess how much the budget was? Nine million dollars. Sure. $16 million. Where? Where is that money? It grossed $713,000. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It is crazy because there are certain choices in the movie where I did think, oh, I guess they just didn't have the money for other shots. When he's pulling out weeds from the flower garden outside, he brings the outside weeds into the kitchen to be thrown away in a yard waste, giant yard waste garbage pile in the kitchen indoors, which I couldn't for the life of me understand. I mean, I had a lot of issues with the, yeah, the directing of certain things, but the fact that
Starting point is 00:48:41 Tate Donovan has 10 beers, where's JGL? The fact that the simplest stunt you could possibly pull off, which is a door opening, hitting a person, and that person falling down, you never see. It's like three different. I know that's the simplest stunt. That's the simplest stunt. For a $16 million movie, if that, yeah, like let's do, let's just see the guy get hit with the car door. We have to imagine it with our mind. We just see elements of it.
Starting point is 00:49:09 And then later on, oh, I guess that's what happened. Because you just, you don't see it. It's the, you flip the car and blew it up. What I couldn't figure out was, I thought when Joseph Gordon Levin, Gordon Levin rather hit the, or said he found the money in the flower bed, right? Yeah. The idea being that, oh, that's where the money is buried. I thought he was tricking her into doing her chores.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Me too, and she went in. She went in. She was. Go and weed the flower bed in an effort to find the money, yeah, right? No. She rips up the whole long as if it's like, I feel like on the day, she was like, no, no, no, I don't think I would weed it.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I think I would just decimate the whole front air. And everybody's walking by me and like, what the fuck? And she's like swimming in dirt. But yeah. She's Michael Phelps in the dirt pile. But then why don't you address that in the scripting phase and go rip up the lawn. And then you know, you could do it.
Starting point is 00:50:10 But like no, it's weird. She destroys the whole garden. I don't know. And then Sheila kind of has this domestic abuse scene that I wanted to play here too. Because she's, this is the scene where she's kind of chasing him around. Imagine this. Look at this. Go ahead, big kid. You're the right guy that money to me.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Where's the rest of it? I want my money right now. I'm your husband. I'm going to help you. You're like, I wish I'd tell you. Who's going to make the deal? Oh yeah, you're going to make me a city girl. Who's going to be a girl?
Starting point is 00:50:40 If you don't stop me, maybe I'm like a pro from the wife. I'm beating all that money to the hogs. Oh, no. That's bad. Only making this sound better. Come on. Come on. Come back here.
Starting point is 00:50:53 If you touch your tongue, maybe I'll feel give you some on it. Like, is this a scene from frightening? Is this a scene from this movie or marriage story? Like genuinely, what is this? Is that it? Like watching that scene out of context? I was like, my breath just got taken away.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah, it is. It's shot in handheld, really close chaotic. It feels dangerous and scary. And again, one of the only two actors in the scene is a legitimate child. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. And it's hard because I feel like I don't know what's going to happen to maintain yours when he finds a wife. I don't know at the end of this movie is he going ahead into an actual marriage with a more progressive and egalitarian
Starting point is 00:51:40 view of marriage. I don't know that. Yeah, when he says, I don't. When he returns to his community, what is, I mean, I think what June is saying, and I agree with it, is let's get this sequel going. I mean, let's get this sequel going right now, but you sure are kidding, Joe Gordon-Levitt. They're polarizing. It's a little more than 10 years, but why not't see what's up with what's it Ezekiel and Havana, Havana. Thank you Havana just like Alabama from Truroman But you know it I feel like it's prime for Netflix. It's like Fuller House You guys are familiar with that San Francisco, you know, it's time to go back. Go back in the well
Starting point is 00:52:23 Let's go out to the audience here to see what you all have to say about this movie. All right, all right, so right here, look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. accent to ask your question. So, all right, so here we go. Your name and your question, but in the best putterite accent you can come up with. It could be as leprechauny as you want. My name is Frances. I... Right, you can ask it out. I just wanted to bring up for June. The wig in the beginning of the movie. How do we not talk about this?
Starting point is 00:53:06 When she takes off the Maryland wig and she does have similar hair, like almost identical hair to what she was trying to portray, I just know that we had to talk about this. Yeah, we have to talk about wig. People wanna hear wig talk. I mean, I actually thought that that was one of the only interesting choices in the movie.
Starting point is 00:53:27 That she... A movie that features a child marrying an adult. This was one of the most interesting choices. Well, yes, that she felt like she had to put on a mask and put on this sort of character piece to play Maryland when she was already so close to it. It's the same, it's in the same way that she had to change her name to Havana, that she was putting on this person. But she was that person.
Starting point is 00:53:54 What do you mean? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. She is kind of living the Maryland life, right? How do you mean? Is she? Well, I feel like she... What is your understanding of Maryland Monroe's life, Paul? She-
Starting point is 00:54:07 Or Norma-Jean. Well, Norma-Jean, I feel like, you know, she's, you know, she's not being treated well by the people in her life. She's being kind of tossed around from here or there, treated like a yo-yo. And then- Oh, also not for nothing. Remember when Marilyn Monroe married a 12-year-old?
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yes. Paul's on his way to the balcony. How are we doing, balcony? Also not for nothing remember when Marilyn Monroe married a 12 year old. Yes Paul's on his way to the balcony how are we doing balcony San Francisco balcony monsters are the best balcony monsters I am here in the balcony with the balcony monsters. I'm going to go to this woman who is standing here. Be careful, Paul. Be careful. They're very polite. They seem good. I'm out of breath. There's a lot of stairs to get here.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Deceiving a man of stairs. You're getting a great workout this show. I really am. All right. Hi. How are you? Good. Your name and your best hot or to write voice and your question.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Hi, I'm Erin. Great. First of all, why would you send a small child who's never been out in the world to check into a hotel? That's, and then he walked into a random room. Yeah, it seemed like she was also checking into the hotel because she's a go-finders room with a good bed. And the next scene you see her, she has the key. Well, she watches him go off to do his thing and she's like, oh, this fucking kid.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And she's looking right at the office and he's not walking that way at all. So she's like, I guess I gotta do this. But she doesn't stop him from like walking in on old people semi-n naked board games. Listen, I don't know also why their room was open. Right. Oh, because they're looking for a.
Starting point is 00:55:52 They're asking for a. That's what it is. They're going to sit to go down in one of those pool-based courtyard hotels. If your room is unlocked, you are open for business. There is a little piece of IMDB trivia that says that if you notice all the rooms have key card access but Patricia Arquette carries the key. So people did pick up on that shame on you Leonard Nimoy. Yes, ma'am, your name, your question.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Hello, I am Patricia. I want to talk about the laundry scene like thank you. She works at Carnival, so I'm assuming she doesn't have a butler. She should know how to do laundry, but she's comedically not able to do that. The thing about that laundry scene that I listen, okay, so it was I think Sheets and Curtains Day. So that means- Is that a Sheets and Curtains that you do them on the same day? I think so, because I think the entire colony, this is what, so this is why I did connect to the colony.
Starting point is 00:56:56 There's something about I'm an avid viewer of Sister Wives on TLC. I love that show. There's something about women living in community where they're all sort of sharing the housework and the chores that I find appealing. And I think they were all doing sheets that day. By the way, I tell you, if you lived in a community like that, you would find a way to shirk your responsibility. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I mean, someone was, a friend of hers was over our house and said she had to do laundry. And Paul was already here in San Francisco. And I said, well, I don't know how to use the washer and dryer. But I'm sure we, we're two intelligent women. I'm sure we can figure it out. Now granted, we have only been in this house a couple of months.
Starting point is 00:57:40 But- Cubs is a very long time. Now listen, I know everybody's disturbed about that, but I'm going to say- September. Fine, we moved in September. I have not done it- But you're September is more. And I see that as a sign of success.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Thank you. I have done many, many- Why don't you feel badly about it? I'm not going to. Give it up for June! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
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Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! about this movie. There are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. This piece of shit movie that we all suffered through Ooh, child husband's face rats, but a pay-done down of an fiery far crash That's where we started it, outdated views on women's roles FBI man going rogue still some gave this five stars and some where on Amazon to come Now tall John, she's gonna read them That Nate Kylie did choose There we go, great job, we're excellent job, wasn't it? That's you. Give it up for Jeff! Cheers!
Starting point is 00:59:41 If you are wondering why you don't hear the comments of June, it's because she had to leave in the middle of the show to catch a flight to get back to start shooting. I had in the middle of the show at the end of the show. At the end of the show. But you're listening to it, so you know that now she is gone. You've heard her up until this moment. I don't know what you're talking about. June's just being real quiet right now.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Isn't that right, June? She's nodding. These are five star reviews called for Amazon. There are 39 total reviews. Oh, jeez. 54% are five star. 54% only 9% are one star. And this one is from Dr. Chilly. Dr. What?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Dr. Chilly. Dr. Chilli. What is that about? Is that someone who got a doctorate in chili? I don't know. It was written the day after Christmas in 2019. And Dr. Chilli writes this. Just recently. Yes. As a budding adolescent, this is my favorite. I don't know how I would have gotten through those years without Yes. As a budding adolescent, this is my favorite. I don't know how I would have gotten through those years without it as a married man with kids, it's still my favorite. I have purchased this for my wife as an anniversary present. I'm now single and not allowed to see my children.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And while she wasn't a fan, it still works for me. Yeah, because she's an adult. To be honest, this has probably saved our marriage as I use it at least once a month to get the old marital juices flowing. But anyway, I cannot suggest this enough. The plaintiff's arched life. I believe we might be being pranked by this one, but it was real written enough that I read it because it was written in 2019, which makes me believe that this movie already.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I feel like about that time. I feel like this is, it starts, it could be real, but I read it because it was good enough. To get the marital juices flowing seems like someone wrote that. But if this guy's watching this movie to get a boner, so they can have sex with his wife, and it's like, this needs to be on Amazon. I got to post this.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Well, I don't know. This is like admissible in court. I do believe this one that's coming up. This is written by music man and music man goes play. Just a man who loves music. It's a cute film. I was in this movie as an actress, so enjoy. All right, not exactly a star, but I am in this movie, L-O-L, five stars.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Oh, man, music man is like really putting it out there. All right, so this user is called fascination. Fascination writes, I don't know why, but I love this movie. Patricia is so charming. First name basis? Patricia. How dare you? Patricia is so charming.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Patty is so good. I'm definitely a fan of hers. I liked how it was tied into the Amish community. The boy was so perfect. If he were older, he'd be the perfect guy. The film had action, suspense, a moral, a pretty girl, romance, and it was surprisingly engrossing. I liked the conflicts. It was fun to see how putting different types of people in different situations would work. Five stars. You just described the tenant of writing.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Do you think that that commenter is referring to the romance between Patricia Arquette and Jogorne Levit or Jason of Inepartus Patricia Arquette. I think it's sort of like what... The general romance? I think it's like, I would like to see how an FBI agent would be with a head-or-eye community and how maybe an old man is underwear. Are there any head-or-rights in the crowd? It looks big. Cool.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Okay. Just wondering. I am really upset that June's not here because I wanted to talk about the tagline of this movie, which is the hilariously sexy comedy. Again, what is the message of the movie? It's a romance between a child and an adult. I don't, I just, this is wild. I mean, this is a crazy movie.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Like I mentioned earlier, directed by Leonard Nimoy, the not only he played Spock and Star Trek, but also directed Three Men and a Baby. It was written by the writers of the rock, double jeopardy and criminal. So this seems to be a real break from their action films to go into this, but I guess that explains the exploding car. The movie came out in 1994, the top movies of that year were the Lion King Far scump and true lies.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And it was beat by Time Cop disclosure, Junior Color of Night Double Dragon. dragon it beat nothing because like I mentioned this movie made seven hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. Wait when you said this movie wasn't released what did you mean? It was in a was it like straight to video you mean? Yes I believe it may have been limited release like two theaters or something like that. That's something very small, okay, but yeah there I mean there's not much there's not much digging we could do on this movie It's Joseph Gordon love its first movie. It's Leonard Nimoy's last film as a director
Starting point is 01:05:37 and And Jason I guess the question to you is would you recommend this movie? Wow, you know, yeah, I guess the question to you is, would you recommend this movie? Wow. You know, yeah, I would. I'll be honest, you should all fucking watch this movie. It is shocking at every turn. I mean, now it doesn't matter because we've talked about it, but I will say, having gone into this blind, every move, every turn the movie took,
Starting point is 01:06:04 not only did I not see it coming, I was gobsmacked that it was happening. When they come in, when Arm and Mueller saw it comes in and it's like, you have to marry this child, and she's like, fuck you, I'll do it. I was like, what? Now I've got a boner. How does this work?
Starting point is 01:06:22 It was a wild endeavor. This was a movie that did something that so few movies do. Even the movies that we do that I'm anticipating, it shocked me. I- So many times. It's weird because I feel like they hop a train, hobo style. It just cuts to them in a freight car. It turns the screw constantly. And I think what I love about this movie,
Starting point is 01:06:50 because I also would recommend it, is- There's a shot in this movie. There's a shot in this movie where Joe Gordon Levitt legitimately drives a pickup truck. Yeah. Because there is no cop from when he closes the door, starts the car, and drives off. With a child.
Starting point is 01:07:07 He's got a farmer's license. He's got to do it on the farm. He's an actor. He's a child actor. It's so weird. What happened? I put on my resume and drive stick. Because in case they need it, I got to get in there.
Starting point is 01:07:24 What I think about this movie is they don't make movies this weird anymore. Like this would be stopped by someone. Like if someone is writing a $16 million check, someone may, whoa, whoa, hold on, wait. What? Bring them to my office. Let's do some major rewrites. Oh, and then he's like, he's like, listen, it's I'm talking Tate Donovan.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Oh, yeah, great young man. I'll be coming actor, but Trish Arquette. Just absolutely. She's great. And then he dies and she's married to a little chock. Wait, hold on, wait a second. I thought you were gonna do like a Bonnie and Clyde thing. No, no, no, they go to like a community in Canada and she marries a little boy and then
Starting point is 01:08:08 they go on an adventure. But it's more like maternal, right? No, she corrupts him and sex is not just obliquely referenced, but in fact quite literally referenced throughout. He at one point cries asking if he's not man enough to be married to her, which he is not because he is not a man, he is a child. Please give me $16 million. Again, I was spock. We had a great time here. Thank you, San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Holy shit, San Francisco. We really did it. Thank you to our engineer, Devon, up in the booth. Give it up for Devon. We will see you next time. Thank you for coming. Have a good day San Francisco. Woo! All right, that brings us to the end of Holy Matrimony Live
Starting point is 01:09:04 in San Francisco and I have to say It's crazy to hear that it was about a year ago today and that was one of our last live shows that we have done So a bittersweet moment to hear that episode and I appreciate everybody Going through great lengths to find this film and if you have not found this film and you do want to watch it after hearing us talk about it and I think you might you can check out our discord which is discord dot gg slash hd tgm and you can also go on my discord which is discord dot gg slash paul shear there's a lot of fun stuff going on there really fun stuff and you can always check out my Twitch where I have guests like
Starting point is 01:09:45 Jason Manzuccu and Junetay and Rayfiel and more Rob Hubel and I host a show every Thursday on Twitch which has been so much fun. We've had amazing guests like Judy Greer and Camerino and Jason and I are going to be going on Twitch soon to just do a little bit of a recap of what we're watching. Adam Paly and I host a show where we talk about Twitter drafts. There are so many fun shows that I've been doing to do to keep myself entertained and occupied during this quarantine. I wanna remind you that the Jane Club
Starting point is 01:10:10 is an amazing online resource for people who are looking to form a community and to be active in their community and to inspire each other. The Jane Club, you can go to the Jane Club.com and see what they're doing because they have completely revolutionized their business model to make it an online space. I'm so proud of June and how this thing has grown,
Starting point is 01:10:31 especially in a pandemic and how she has created a virtual community that is just absolutely stunning. Big mouth is on Netflix, Jason, June, and I are all in it and Jason is fantastic in it. Jason, June, and I are all in it, and Jason is fantastic in it. And if you want to see me in a big old movie, the movie is called Happily Coming Up March 17th, it stars Joel McHale, Natalie Z, Carrie Bishay, myself, Natalie Morales, Kirby Howell, Baptiste, Shannon Woodward, Breckenmeyer, Charlene Yee, John Daly, Stephen Root, it's an insane cast, I'm so excited about this movie.
Starting point is 01:11:04 I hope you check it out. I hope you like it. And you can check out my documentary on Disney Plus. It's part of the Marvel 616 series and it is called Lost and Found. A big thank you to Devon, our sound engineer who was with us in San Francisco, our producer, Cody, super producer Cody.
Starting point is 01:11:20 We love Cody. And Avril Halley for finding this fine, fine film. Thank you, Avril. And you can also watch her on movie bitches, a big shout out, and a thank you to July Diaz, who listens through all these episodes, and finds all the cuts and makes all the tight trimmings. So this is acceptable to your ears. A big shout out to the ghost of Craig T. Nelson on Instagram for designing our amazing, how did this get made,? And of course Kyle Waldron, who puts up amazing stuff on our Facebook page, we're trying to get a little bit more involved in that and do a little bit more there as well.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I talked to you about the Discord already, that's already up. And who else do I want to thank? Who else is out there? Well, of course, I can't thank everybody without thanking, I don't even know if that makes sense. Nate Kylie, who does all of our research, Nate, just had a baby. We wish him so much love and the baby so much love and congrats to Nate on another
Starting point is 01:12:15 kid, man, another kid, wow. All right, thank you everybody. And remember, give me a call, 619 P.A. U.L. ASK, that's 619 Paul asked, and we'll talk in the mini episode. The top part of the show I talk about like Dr. Phil O'Prox questions. I'm getting involved in your life. It's the second part of the show. We get into the show. Like what went on in Holy Matrimony that you want to dissect. So I can call that line and with any of those problems and remember to rate and review our show. It does help, especially now that everybody has podcasts. So
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