How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Johnny Mnemonic LIVE! (w/ Jessica St. Clair)

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

HDTGM all-star Jessica St. Clair joins Paul and Jason to break down the ultimate trash can fire movie—the 1995 cyberpunk Keanu Reeves thriller Johnny Mnemonic. LIVE from Boston, they get into the se...ntient dolphin, ghosts in the machine, robotic street preachers, and much more. Plus, June pops in to guess what this movie's about without watching it. (Originally Released 03/15/2018) Troll 2 VIRTUAL live show on Sept 6th (pay what you can tickets) + we'll be in NYC on Nov 15th! Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and for more on bad movies.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comWant a free 3-month trial of the SiriusXM app? Go to: siriusxm.com/hdtgmWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social media

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Brain hard drives, robotic street preachers, ghosts in the machines, a sentient dolphin, and a shitload of trash can fires. We saw Johnny Mnemonic, so you know what that means. I'm screaming How this Schwarzenegger grow baby in his belly Rock a ron stone vest while ripping Justin to Kelly Or maybe see a burlesque show with Nick Crow And take a bowl of speed to hit the cruise control J-Man, Big Paul and the beautiful June Gonna take you from the goob all the way to the room
Starting point is 00:00:40 Rander games and street fighter hope to blow off steam Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green Chop Niddle the birdemic how we staying alive they call it in the badass and he's on the line Cranking 88 minutes cuz they cool as ice cuz a bad Jim Barney looking kind of nice Paul and June getting literal Jason is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid they judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade Here's a real question for you, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth! Hello, people of Earth! Good luck, everyone.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And hello, people of Boston! We are here live at the Wilbur Theatre, our only home in Boston. That's right. The only place we'll ever perform. Fuck every other venue. We are so excited to talk to you about the most cyberpunk movie ever made. This makes hackers look like an episode of Thomas the Train. All right? No messing around.
Starting point is 00:01:53 This is so complicated, this movie, that within the first 30 seconds, I was lost. We'll get into all of that and so much more, but first, let me bring out my co-hosts please welcome Jason Manzougas! What's up jerks? How we doing Boston? How we doing upper deck? How we doing middle? Okay and how we doing rich people in the front? Um I just want to say I said it in the first show, I'm going to say it right now, these motherfuckers down here have tables, they've got drinks, you guys up there, you've got nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:55 You are the lowjacks of this theater. Pull up your inner iced tea and then rappel down here and take their drinks. Drop a flaming car on these motherfuckers. And take what they have. If you're in the upper deck look behind you there's a glass window. You think that's where someone is working lights and sound no that's a tank for a dolphin that's how we know is run by dolphins that's right that's the world we're living in Boston straight from the New England Aquarium sentient I can walk like a penguin. Boom.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Boston references out of the gate. Jason I'm from Mars. I eat all kinds of candy bars. These are Boston commercials. Wow. Raise your hand if you were in the original cast of Zoom. Wow, it's funny if you're listening, all the hands just went up in the audience. All the hands.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Everybody here was on Zoom. Jason. Everybody know the song? Go. You're all suck boo does not give me hope for the second opinion segment of the show Jason Paul did you see Johnny Mnemonic I wish I hadn't wish I hadn't seen this movie this was straight-up bad I didn't care for it. Uh-huh top to bottom T to B didn't like any of it. I Would argue this is one of the most insane movies we've done and I know it because I've seen this movie multiple times
Starting point is 00:04:54 I owned it on laser disc That is like that is like sad that's fundamentally like a sad story my My I had a touch of love for Henry Rollins that I would love your that I would follow him anywhere I loved iced tea, and I was like it put Henry Rollins a nice tea in a movie I'm buying a giant laser disc that you have to stop in the middle of take it out Flip it like a vinyl album to finish playing the movie for those of you listening Google laser disc and be embarrassed for me
Starting point is 00:05:41 This movie I was so angry I want watching it I don't know what's going on, and then at the end it said screenplay by William Gibson and I was like, fucking that makes sense. Now, because I feel like whatever he must have done, he was like, these are the salient points that must be in, the initial crawl is, I don't know, two chapters of the book I had to rewind it three times just to read it and then I never understood what it said I it was going just faster than it should it was going like as if it was on fast-forward we should say that to talk with other no I want to talk about it now! I want to leap into this audience!
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yes, we're going to talk about the opening credit crawl, but first let me introduce our guest co-host for the night. You know her from an episode that she did back in the day about Pluto Nash. She is fantastically funny, amazingly talented. Please welcome Jessica St. Clair! Please welcome Jessica St. Clair! What's up, bitches? Whoop whoop! Bloop. Welcome. Welcome, Jess.
Starting point is 00:06:57 We have talked about this on other podcasts, but this is not your cup of tea, a movie like this. Not my genre! Don't care for it. And in fact, the thing I wrote to myself, my little notebook was... You wrote a little notebook and you write to yourself in it? Dear Jess, we did it again.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I wrote, I took a real hit from my dear friend June. That's what I wrote. Well, you know what? This movie, this movie is... I don't like the future, Paul. I know. You don't like the future. You are on record as saying you don't like the future.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I hate the future. Especially if it is dystopic. I hate the dystopic future. I don't like the future especially if it is dystopic. I hate the dystopic future I don't like trashcan fires I don't like indiscriminate use of eyeliner on your face I I just I don't care for it. Well I mean how will you know if people are good or bad if they're not wearing like a little anarchy sign in between their eyes? Yes. That, you know, like, I just don't know. I still don't know if that's good or bad. That's just anarchy, though.
Starting point is 00:08:09 So I, we were talking before you came out about the opening crawl, which is so much information. I've pulled it up here. I mean, can we, can we, fuck this. It's three sides. Fuck this right here. Fuck this. I fuck it.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Okay, stuff right here. No. The second thing. Nerve attenuate, like, there's too Okay, stuff right here. No. The second... Nerve attenuate, like there's too many words that are hard. Epidemic. I mean... And it comes to the corporations, little kids, like all these words that aren't real. It's like... Wetwired, does it say wetwired?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Can you play it from the beginning and I want to read it as it goes? Okay. Just because I want to... I just want to prove a point that this is fucking garbage And I'm angry. I'm angry that you made me watch this For and come here to do entertainment for you. All right, so here we go tri star. All right, here we go Tri-star winged horse Pegasus Greek go live. Here we go second decade of the 21st century. Corporations rule.
Starting point is 00:09:09 The world is threatened by a new plague. NAS, nerve attenuation syndrome. Fatal, epidemic, it's cause and cure unknown. The corporations are opposed by the low techs. A resistance movement risen from the streets is already going too fast. data pirates guerrilla fighters in the info wars no info wars the corporations defend themselves they hire the Yakuza the most powerful of all crime syndicates they sheath their data
Starting point is 00:09:38 in black ice lethal viruses waiting to burn the brains of intruders but the low techs wait in their strongholds in the old city cores, like the rats in the walls of the world, not over yet. The most valuable information must sometimes be entrusted to pneumatic couriers, elite agents who smuggle data in web-wired brain implants. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:06 You, you reading that out loud, and this is the issue we get in a lot with these movies, it only makes sense after you've watched it. I'm like, oh, now I get what I just watched. I would argue it doesn't make sense even then. Like in Star Wars, in Star Wars, what do they say? They're like... Okay, what do you think they say? They're just like...
Starting point is 00:10:29 They're like, galaxy far, far away. That's the right? Yes, that's right. That's part of it. Some good guys are fighting the bad forces. Right. Darth Vader was dead, or we think, and now he's alive. And now the fighters of the resistance are
Starting point is 00:10:46 here and we're gonna see what's gonna go on pay you a thousand dollars right now that's right to tell us the plot of Star Wars pick one of those in dollars you're only saying tongue tons cuz we said it in the Ice World, they're in the Tontons. You're only saying Tontons because we said it in the last show. No. They sleep in those, then they go to the sea walks. That's not a thing. And then she's like, and he's like, I want to have sex with what? You're my sister. And then they're like, no, I'm going to use this Millennium Falcon to get around.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I think you made- By the way, I love this version of Star Wars. This is the last Jedi. I think you may have gotten all of your Star Wars information from Star Wars porn parody. Yes. Quite possibly. Anyway, but my point is, that's at least digestible, right? To a certain degree, yes. That you understand the main tenet. Good versus evil. And it explains, it sets up the world you're about to enter and it's very simple, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:51 But this is like, this scroll should play three times the movie. Once in the beginning, once in the middle, and once at the end. And then I'm like, oh, that, okay, oh, oh. Oh, cause I didn't even understand. Like a silent movie has like cards in the middle. And then I'm like, oh, that, okay, got, oh, oh, oh. Cause I didn't even understand. Like a silent movie has like cards in the middle.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And here are the low techs. Rats of the world. Yes. This is the Yakuza. Yeah, I need to know because when the low techs came in, I thought that was the first time I was ever hearing of them until I just saw it. Oh, I guess I did.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I was so overwhelmed by reading that I got nervous in the beginning of the movie. Here's the thing. Here's the thing too. I hate reading. Oh, of course. That's why I watch movies. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I didn't come to read like a full chapter of this book. Right. I mean, this movie also has the weirdest beginning because first of all, for those of you paying attention, it starts in the Internet yes the first card up is like the Internet 2021 yeah and then it cuts from the Internet to a hotel room why wait so wait when this movie came out did the Internet exist oh boy such a good question so what year did you think this movie came out and what year did the Did the internet exist? Oh boy. Such a good question.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So what year did you think this movie came out? And what year did the internet come out? Let me see. All I can think about is in college, Jason, we didn't have email. St. Clair and I went to college together, everybody. Middlebury. Middlebury College, Vermont,ont. I don't really care I don't care when it I don't care when the internet was invented just tell me it's like being with my dad
Starting point is 00:13:31 You really don't know wait you should get a New York Times delivered to your door every weekend Fuck you, man. Wait did William get my news by as Moses Well, I want to hear outside of a bodega, that's all I need to know. Why are you hanging outside of bodegas so much? You really are good outside. You tell people the right fruit to pick out of a bodega. That looks like a good mango. Oh, does something happen in a different country? Anyway. The movie came out in 1995. The internet did exist. AOL has been around for a long time.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Not that that was the beginning of the internet. It started much earlier than that. Al Gore invented the internet. We all know that. 0101. And I'll also say to Jason, we talked about this in the beginning, but I didn't want to correct you just early enough. Oh, that's nice. Already a correction and omission? Already. Gibson said, even though he is credited as the writer, he did not write this movie.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Really? Yes. He said, he actually said, he goes, even though he was the sole credited screenwriter, he insists to this day that it was not his screenplay that was made. Who? Oh, oh. So he wrote a screenplay, but then someone rewrote it uncredited and he's... Most people fight for credit. Yeah. This is an opposite thing. Can I ask a question? Another thing about William Gibson, just one other thing, and then never used internet. But didn't he coin the term? Didn't he? Isn't he the person that invented the term the internet nerds? Cyber space. Sorry. Thank you. Now is this before Keanu did the one with the trench coats and the... invented the term the internet nerds Cyber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci-ber-sci- that the same novel seven times and then like the seven times. Yeah, heads come back to life and kill you. Yeah, and I feel like this is like Keanu going like,
Starting point is 00:15:26 yeah, and then the Matrix is like the better version of this. But that came later, right? Yes. Got it. Wonder if it got him the job though. Maybe. I mean, this is by the way, peak Keanu right here. Well, I'm going to tell you this.
Starting point is 00:15:37 What is this around? This is... Point Doom? Speed. This is Speed Arrow, so this is like the... This is like Keanu, Speed. This is speed, speed arrow, so this is like the... This is like Keanu, before he became super serious, is still like a dude. Like there's dude in Keanu, but it's starting to trend differently. Now here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I thought that Keanu was part robot in the very beginning because of how he is delivering those lines. I did too. No joke, did you really? Because I really was like, this is an aspect, nobody speaks this way. That movie, this- With no inflection. Did you think he was part robot in the lake house? Did you watch that movie?
Starting point is 00:16:20 We did it for this podcast. Oh you did? Is it good? I would watch it. You should watch it actually I just want I want to play some oh who is this woman well by the way Here's what I thought here's what I thought Hang on everybody. I know you want to talk, but here's what I thought
Starting point is 00:16:36 I thought she cuz she's like I'm gonna go out and get ice and he's like I've already got I feel you she's like Doesn't matter. I'm out of here. Yeah, I thought dudes were about to swarm in and like, take him out or something. Instead we just... He just gets a call. We just watched essentially the worst acting class final performance of all time. It's like, what's up Johnny? I don't know Rebecca. Yeah. Hey Johnny, why don't you come over here?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Okay Rebecca. Like it's just, everyone's using everyone's names too much. And it's also one of those scenes where you're like, it's just an acting class. I don't know why you had to take your shirt off. Like it was too weird for everyone. Because he has so much armpit hair. And I'm really into Keanu, this age Keanu, I would definitely have sex with, but not with all of that armpit hair. I would have sex with current age Keanu. I would have sex with John Wick in John Wick 3 if those casting agents are listening.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yes. John Wick has a three-way with me and Jason in John Wick 3. It takes a very weird turn. It's more of a sexual exploration instead of a violent exploration. And we shouldn't talk about it, although I do think we were duped into being in a movie called John Dick 3.
Starting point is 00:17:45 The guy did not look like Keanu up close. Early days, early days UCB. Yeah, he wouldn't take off those glasses. That was weird. Alright, anyway. But that opening scene is bizarre and we're learning that he is this courier that carries stuff in his head. And if you are confused by that, don't worry, because that will be spoken about in every scene for the rest of the movie.
Starting point is 00:18:09 That's the one thing we do understand. The one thing we get, clearly, is that something is in his head. And I'm gonna tell you what I don't like, is him putting shit in his scalp. I spent a lot of the movie thinking, how'd they do that? Was that just like a fake scalp
Starting point is 00:18:26 over his real scalp Fake head fake head It was a fake head To me as when they like pulled back Kevin Costner, he's got gills Water world wait water seen water world and by the way, so this is huge news He's got gills! And I'm like, ugh! Don't show me that! Oh, Waterworld? Wait, you've seen Waterworld? And by the way, so quickly- This is huge news. When did you go see Waterworld?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Why did you go see Waterworld? I don't know, and if you asked me the plot of that, I'd have a different story than what you guys saw. But you remember gills. Yeah, I do remember them. Like, pulling back the ear flap, and that reminded me, same feeling every time he would implant a chip in himself. I felt sick to my stomach
Starting point is 00:19:05 I I didn't understand this whole fucking hard drive head first of all well. That's all it is though He's basically good like a classic iPod in his head. Yeah, cuz by the way Less than a lot no no I mean they sell like two terabyte drives That's like the equivalent of a like an iPod shuffle in his head. It's like a shuffle. It's hilariously small. He basically has enough storage space in his head. For like the Shrek 2 soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I own that. Hey now, you're an all-star. Get your game on. Play all that glitter. Honest. Don't get. Not even kidding. Not even kidding. That is one of Jessica Sinclair's most favorite albums
Starting point is 00:19:50 of all time. Wait, are you being serious? I'm serious. And in fact, when we were doing a sketch show, I'd be like, hey, you know what would be a great song for this transition? It's like, hey, now you're not. And he's like, I swear to fucking God,
Starting point is 00:20:01 if that's off the Shrek 2 soundtrack, I'm gonna murder you alive. That's what she legit would listen to, is like soundtracks to fucking God, if that's off the Shrek 2 soundtrack, I'm gonna murder you alive. That's what you would listen to, is like soundtracks to movies that were bad. Yeah, anyway, we digress, but. Holy moly. What we say, yes, there's not, and also he knows that he doesn't have enough storage
Starting point is 00:20:18 in his brain. Right. Does he not? But then he gets pissed off. Yeah, he only has. He's like, I can't believe you overloaded me. Did he lie about getting that upgrade? Yes. Because when he only has- I can't believe you're overloading me. Did he lie about getting that upgrade? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Because when he goes into the first room to check his storage on like a little like, almost like a thing that would take your pulse, it's like whoop, full, empty, whatever. That's like 85. And it's like, don't exceed. Yeah, but he had to get like 200 or 300 in there, which seems like a lot more.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And 320, should have been 420, dude, right? Yeah. hundred or three hundred in there which seems like a lot more and 320 should have been 420 dude right yeah yeah yeah brother cuz that's how I feel when I get high I'm like oh my brain is leaking oh the data is leaking bro Shit's getting weird man. The biggest- That's my stoned character. It's not very good. One of the biggest issues I had in the movie was the whole conceit is when they're loading information into his brain he's like, take three pictures of the TV and then- That's very strange.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah and he was like and then that's the code. That's the picture. But they're watching. And then fax it. That's as far in the future as we've gotten, is we're gonna fax you some shit. And that was already, faxing was a thing in 95. Come on.
Starting point is 00:21:34 What about your fucking idiots? Yeah. They couldn't even imagine that faxes would be obsolete by now. But when they go into the room, they're watching some movie with Humphrey Bogart he mutes it and then when they take a picture of the TV it's like some weird cartoon but they were watching Humphrey Bogart wait did the TV would
Starting point is 00:21:55 do it was it from the actual TV or was it like visually generated I you know I thought anyone I don't even want to know the answer. I don't care. I want to abort the question because I could give two shits about the answer. I hated this movie. I just thought it was odd to establish it. And I also felt like there was one guy in that room who was so rude. Johnny Mnemonic is putting on those goggles, putting in his like retainer. Preparing to have the most painful shit he's ever taken in his life.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And then he gets like cut to a guy like eating like low-main yeah yeah that was weird yeah come on dude why don't you watch the guy do his shit I would love it if some of our fans would take some of those scenes where Johnny Mnemonic is getting stuff downloaded and just put like diarrhea sounds underneath it and just put it online why not do it guys and a toilet flush it won't take very long and then a toilet flush but he but like he like I also never understood I also never understood why he needed to put
Starting point is 00:22:54 on the goggles too because it was like he was putting on the goggles to see but he wasn't seeing well the thing is he's like he puts he puts on the goggles a couple of different times yeah the time the time when he's in a computer store and he just cobbles together I don't like that I don't like what don't you like? Do you think he was looking for the G-spot? What happened there? What?
Starting point is 00:23:30 You're gross. I really, really didn't like that. What didn't you like about it? Everything about him building his own computer. Oh, by the way, when he does make a long distance call, dials the number and then pulls the country over. It's like, seems odd that that seems like I'm one extra step. You have to know geography to make a long distance call now.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Like if you have the number on a regular telephone, you don't need to also look at a picture of the country. Yeah. To be like, well, I've got the number, I'm calling Canada. Do you think that AT&T was psyched to be involved in this? Like, if I'm AT&T, I'm like, what? You let them use our fucking logo? Why? This is a dystopian future. Also, the place they were at is called Bob's Crazy Computer Store. That's where they like randomly show up at. So stupid.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I will say this movie, in my opinion, has the best character actors in the game, like Udo Kare or, you know, Ice-T, Rollins, Dolph Lundgren, Henry Rollins. There's nothing that gave me more joy in this movie than Dolph Lundgren getting killed by a dolphin. I mean that is poetry. That's some fucking genius level shit. By the way, I would argue this is Dolph Lundgren's greatest role ever. We're talking about Jesus. The guy looks like Jesus. Let's leave out, you know, the guy from Rocky IV.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, Drago. Oh man, Creed II is not going to be good, huh? That's just an aside. Yeah. It's like Stallone's like, I got it now. I got it. And we're bringing back everybody from Rocky IV. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It's going to be Expendables in the ring. Yeah. Not into it. But he is a badass. Oh, and also, sorry, just on your list of badasses, Beat Takeshi is in this movie. Oh, yeah. And his fucking... I was like, what a waste! You've got like one of the fucking best badasses in the world,
Starting point is 00:25:50 and he's like, like hardly in it and then is dispatched easily. I was heartbroken. No, no, no, no, no. Let's just sit in this silence for a couple minutes. Alright. I also like it. You guys hate B2K. I don't know any of the people you just said. I don't know the parts they
Starting point is 00:26:09 played and I don't care. Go on. What I did like also is like he's supposed to be his elite courier and his passport name is John Smith. But we're like the mic, and his name is Johnny, anyway. Why do they need to put it in a human? Why does it have to be transported by a human brain? If they have this internet and he's going to upload it, why don't they
Starting point is 00:26:38 just upload a chip? I think the idea is it's safer inside of, they could have put it in his stomach or something. You could lose a thing, but if it's safer inside of... They could have put it in his stomach or something. Well, like... You could lose a thing, but if it's inside of you... If they didn't know that... But then you kill the person. If they weren't after him, it would have been a one, two, three deal.
Starting point is 00:26:56 It would have been easy. Yeah, like a one, two, three. A classic one, two, three deal. Which is apparently a thing we're talking about. Yeah, a classic one, two, three, deal. You know, you get it, you do it, you finish it. Then you finish it. One, two, three, deal.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Jessica, how did you feel about the fingers and the broccoli? What? Oh, you mean the fingers that got cut off? Yeah, they got cut to the shot of fingers and broccoli. I didn't know there was broccoli involved. I was so upset by it. It was so fake. And then it was all burned up and disgusting. I just, no. And wait, did somebody else's whole hand get sliced off?
Starting point is 00:27:39 Was that the same thing? Someone's hand gets frozen. You made me watch so many movies in the future that they're all combining in my head Yes, somebody's got frozen and then sliced up and then hit like smashed and then Udo Kier got cut in half By the laser whip but not a lightsaber a lightsaber whip. That's the only thing about the movie. I liked yeah I like how you get back But I did and I now but Ask me answer me this,
Starting point is 00:28:06 that nail, was that part of the laser? I didn't realize that. Coming out, like that's what he, it was like a measuring tape. You had to pull it out, like it had that little clip. Why would he, why would he would go, when he would go, A, I hate about the internet in movies like this, that they structure it like it's a cityscape.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah. Like when you go into the internet it's like skyscrapers and like these are the roads and it's like that's... No. A. And B. Why would there then be flashes of like comic book characters? There would be like cartoon characters. Or why at the end did he become a figure of a person? And yeah. In the internet. And double him double oh, he's doubling well great explain what that means to the person who has no fucking idea Just say it like I'm an asshole and then it gets attacked by the virus and the guy goes don't worry. That's just a double
Starting point is 00:29:00 And then cares and then he like unravels look up like a poster of another character Fucking thing this movie was a giant pile of shit What's it amazing or was it amazing for how terrible is it has the dolphin? I feel like the dolphin to an amazing level. I am shocked because I've heard a lot about this movie People have been telling us to do this movie somehow And I've never seen it. I have escaped the knowledge that the dolphin was part of the movie So when he goes this is Jones and they cut to a dolphin. I was like But that's a bold move.
Starting point is 00:29:45 That's a bold move that cements it into icon status. That's why you had the laser disc. Not because you were such a sad person, which you were. You know, coming from a broken home, etc. A kid coming home, a latchkey kid, opening the the door watching this movie on laser disc making yourself a grilled cheese sandwich and like a like a lunchable or something you know like a pizza roll. I lead a very exciting life as a latchkey solo kid it was a very one two three existence you know. One two three deal.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Paul can I ask you a question about this movie? How did you feel about the numerous attacks on bald men in this movie? Well, now looking at it with the lens of being a bald man, I thought it was pretty, pretty racist against bald men. Hey, okay, I just want to be clear. You think bald is a race? Yeah. I'm intrigued by this. Yeah. There are numerous people who are called Baldi,
Starting point is 00:30:49 or like people are being like, throughout the movie. I was like, another bald joke? And the bald guy also is wearing Lawrence Fishburne's coat from The Matrix. The first guy. Very big collar. Next time, knock Baldi, is one of them. These guys get it. They get it.
Starting point is 00:31:10 By the way, this movie does have so much good, weird, future stuff. Whenever you're in the future, you gotta go to a club, and this club was great. It was a punk opera club. Yup. Best character in the entire movie was that lizard woman. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la.
Starting point is 00:31:31 When that scene ends and Udo Kira and that woman are like, I was like super turned on. Because also, you know that she was taken every second of that screen time. Oh, yeah. Because even when other people are talking, she's just like, oh, crazy eyes in your face. I love that woman. And they were doing shading like the Kardashians.
Starting point is 00:31:53 That's how they put on their makeup, on a real tip. That's why this movie to me is like, every scene just ups the ante. It's like, okay, I get it Oh wait, there's a preacher who answers a phone in a Bible I'm back in and then like a couple more things going on like oh everyone's dressed like they're extras from Waterworld Okay back in these two side characters are speaking with like a crazy ass lisp like I think I love this movie. Yeah, I think I might loveisp like like I think I love this movie
Starting point is 00:32:26 yeah I think I might love it now I do I love it this movie push it crazy watch it I'm gonna like this yeah this is topic pushes crazy crazy and stuff was cut out apparently they tried to make the movie more family-friendly, but Jones, the dolphin, was addicted to heroin. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Yeah. He didn't have enough water to swim in. Yeah. I felt bad about that.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Oh, by the way, they were mistreating that dolphin. That is not enough room at all. Wait, that wasn't a real dolphin! I'm just kidding. Obviously it was. I worked with that dolphin on Dirty Grandpa. The dolphin is very talented. We need to talk about the monologue. I also like... I could talk... Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I want somebody to learn it and perform it. I was going to write it before the show. I did, I wrote it down. Oh, whoa. I'm not going to perform it though because it really should be performed by a gentleman. Can I perform it? I gonna perform it though because it's really should be performed. Can I perform it by a gentleman? Here we go, I don't know if I had every line hold on hold on J bone, that's what I'm officially changing my name to. I'm J bone. I run heaven. Yeah
Starting point is 00:33:47 By the way, I felt- The list of character names is bananas. It's wild. Here are some of the names. I want room service. Oh. I want the club sandwich. I want a $10,000 a night hooker. I want my shirts laundered like they do in the Imperial Hotel in Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:34:04 So that essentially is what is motivating our hero, his desire for a club fucking sandwich. That is why we are going on this journey. The most relatable thing is high class fuckers and a club sandwich, not getting my memory back of my childhood and understanding who I am. By the way- We're solving the world's, you know, curing the world. When you do get a glimpse at what his childhood was, it looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Oh, I thought it looked eerie as shit. Oh really? I felt like I was like, is this like flowers in the attic kind of shit? That's your own lens, Paul. That's your own lens, you're looking at it. I was like, this doesn't look so bad. And like a birthday party with kids
Starting point is 00:34:45 who are like paid to be there and like balloon. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Paul, Paul, Paul. Paul, Paul, you're Paul. Did you, Paul, did your parents? I had a birthday party at Roy Rock as well. Did your parents pay for kids to come to your birthday? Not all of them, just a handful to flesh it out. This is very sad.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Like these are the, these are harrowing tales of a childhood spent alone watching horrible movies on laserdiscs. The only bright spot of the movie. I didn't even have the laserdisc at my house. It was at my dad's house. It was all a weekend thing. Oh, Paul. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Oh, Paul. I just had VHS copies of R-rated movies that my dad edited out the nudity and extreme violence of. Like, literally- Like Risky Business was like five minutes long. I had Beverly Hills Cop one and two- It was 15 minutes long.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah, like when I finally watched it, it's much older. I was like, oh, there's like a whole other movie in here. That is the cute, that is truly cute. I love your dad like older. I was like, oh, there's like a whole other movie in here. That is so cute. That is truly cute. I love your dad, like up at night being like, okay. Record like reel to reel.
Starting point is 00:35:55 My dad had no problem with the extreme vulgarity of Eddie Murphy talking about everything, but just nudity and boobs cut out. Can I just play a little bit of the monologue because it's so good. You listen to me. You see that city over there? That's where I'm supposed to be. Not down here with the dogs in the garbage in the fucking last watch newspapers going back and forth!
Starting point is 00:36:26 I've had it with them! I've had it with you! I've had it with all this! I want room service! I want the club sandwich! I want the cold Mexican beer! I want a $10,000 a night Thanks, the pants I want my shirts laundered Like they do at the Imperial Hotel
Starting point is 00:37:05 In Tokyo. By the way, great performance. Hamlet-esque. He's literally on a mountain. But I will say this, and I thought this when I was watching it, didn't he just have that like the day before yesterday? Like wasn't he in the- Isn't that when the movie started?
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah. Like this is only 48 hours at most later like maybe maybe he's first-class he's forgetting it maybe he's all maybe there's there's too much seepage or whatever and he's he's already forgotten Rebecca and the hotel he woke up in with the ice bucket or unless that was a dream. No, but he talked to Ralphie. I don't think so. He talked to Ralphie. Ralphie. The name that that guy definitely is not.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Udo Kier is not a Ralphie. Also, what was Ralphie's ethnicity? Or country of origin? Because he sort of sounds in French, German. I think he's German. Uudeocure is German, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was indeterminate to me.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Yeah. Well, I was also curious about the real- He's from bad guy land? Yeah, that's right. I mean, he is the original bad guy. Also, like, if somebody blows smoke into the camera while you're talking to him, don't trust him. That's how he ended everything.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It was like, uh. It's like, maybe don't do what he says. Everything oral for him. Smoke, tonguing, all of it. The street preacher, I want to figure out, is he religious? He's a robot man. Wait, is he a robot? Well, he said he's more machine.
Starting point is 00:38:34 He's had a lot of upgrades. Oh, upgrades. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, he's more machine than man. Is he really practicing or is that just a front? Well, the first thing I thought is June has told me that at a certain age, you can't have your hair be too long. And I fought her on it for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Talk to Crystal Gale. By the way, talk to the director of this movie. He looks like that because that hair is too long. Take a look. Oops. No, don't put it there. This man, the director of this movie, is rocking a ponytail down to his nipple. That's a straight up braid. That's a braid.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I think it might be connected to a nipple ring. It looks like the ponytail is trying to get in his breast pocket. Yeah, like a little mouse he'd have in there. It's like his own Ratatouille. It's a ratatouille tale Yes, that rat tail directed the movie make him do the monologue on the mountain. Okay. I will I will let him We have to there's so much to talk about oh my gosh ice tea I Ice tea was my northern star best Best part of the whole movie. When he showed up I was like, we're safe, we're safe.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Whenever he was there I was like, he's got us. He's going to take us somewhere that makes sense. What is it about Ice-T that gives us that feeling of comfort? Because you just... What did you say? Even looking as insane as he looks, I really was like, thank God. Someone is going to be here to make sense of this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And even though every line he had was gibberish. Insane. Jargon nonsense. It still was helpful. He delivered his lines in this movie like he does on SVU where he's across the room, he's like, oh, murder, rape, suicide, I know about that. And then he just comes over,
Starting point is 00:40:23 drops a shitload of exposition. We're gonna hear a little bit about his acting process here, which is in this clip that we found online. Avery Halle found this clip. This is him promoting his new album, but... I love it. But see, he's having the time of his life. You know that wherever he is, even the movie sucks,
Starting point is 00:40:40 he's still having a good time. Here is Ice-T talking about his acting. All right. I just kinda just read the lines and bring you know whatever flavor I have about myself into the character. You know I ain't trying to pat myself on the back but nobody else in the whole world is doing it. Nobody else. Nobody else is rapping, rocking, acting, and an author. Nobody in the whole world. So I'm a world champion at something. The first five movies I ever been in,
Starting point is 00:41:08 I had my name above title. Only person ever had their first three movies, Black, Wood City, Portia. So I'm sitting around here tripping off of what? So now I'm like out to conquer everything and I'm just having a good time at it. So no, it's still, to me it's like I have balls. Like I got my rap ball, I'm juggling,
Starting point is 00:41:24 my body count ball, and my acting. I'm just like trying to keep them all up in the airs. Well now I don't feel the same way. By the way, I agree. By the way, just so you know, as he's saying that, he is dressed in full character with the anarchy symbol. Oh yeah, and the line drawn across his face. Oh my gosh. He could have been a little more humble I think in that clip. I don't know you know what I mean? He's got a lot of balls. I also wanted to see a map of
Starting point is 00:41:58 this movie because I felt like they just went to three locations like a bunch. Super quick. Yeah. But also like oh you have to be in Shanghai Oh, you got to go to Newark and everything is like boom. I'm there right, but then they just bet the Most of the time in Newark, right? Which by the way doesn't look so not like that now not a lot of people not a lot of people no they did not Have to do anything in Newark. They just shot. They just shot it. That's right. Taking shots at Newark.
Starting point is 00:42:29 We are not gonna be able to play Newark ever again. Oh boy. Then, oh, this is a cliche. We talked about this before in the podcast. The idea when you're really freaked out, you gotta splash water on your face. And I'm like, is that a real thing? Never done that.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And now as a father father I have done that a couple times and I find it actually works it's a nice little pick me up. Wait why does having a child it's very similar to being trapped in the internet like this to have a four-year-old freaking out on you I think there's like moments where you're like I'm up at like the other morning my kid got up at three in the morning for no reason like I'm up and then didn't nap again until Like six at night, and I was there from you got to tell him to cut that shit out. Yeah You know I did a little splash of water around 930 10 and I was like I can get through this I can do I can try
Starting point is 00:43:19 That but the thing that I always see also that was a thing is like one of those things like hey look over there at that light and then you turn and then you turn back and the person's disappeared. Oh, yeah. I have that too. Why does that always happen? That's not a thing that could ever happen, right? And mustn't you hear their footsteps? Yeah. Or there was some scene where somebody got lowered in an elevator behind them and they just like kept in like just staring at each other But there was clearly like a crane crane crane
Starting point is 00:43:50 No sounds well, let's talk to the audience a little bit and see what they have to say about Johnny Mnemonic Here we go. All right. I'm gonna talk to this gentleman right here. All right, sir give me your name and And just make up any sci-fi term that could fit in this movie. All right, so we have a lot of different things. Just put two words together like nanophone, done. You did it. So whatever sci-fi term in your question. By the way, they do have an iPhone in this movie. He says I need an iPhone only it's EYE. It is EYE. Because I know because I watched it with closed captioning on.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Okay your name? Oh my name is Ollie. Ollie and your futuristic term? Interpunk. Great. So the Dolph Lundgren's character. Street Preacher. Right the Street Preacher he's apparently his whole Preacher, he's apparently... His whole deal is that he's contracted by the head of the corporation to kill Johnny Mnemonic and he's gonna get a big payout of it but the head of the corporation like, dies and then he's still trying to kill Johnny Mnemonic even though nobody's gonna pay him. Why?
Starting point is 00:45:00 Honor. I mean, all I'm gonna say is clearly you've never been hit by a truck. And I think he was pissed the fuck off. Does he at some point say Jesus Jam right before he punches something? Jesus time? Jesus time? Like, oh what time is it? Jesus time. Jesus time.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Okay, I thought you said Jesus Jam. And if you're a preacher, isn't it always Jesus time? Like, if you're a preacher. Well, I think Sunday is really Jesus time. Is it though? Or maybe it's God time. Yeah, oh wow. And then what time is Holy Ghost time?
Starting point is 00:45:43 That's Wednesdays. That's Wednesdays. Sir, your name? We're cracking religion wide open here in Boston. Your name, your made up future word, and your question. Patrick, robo priest. Great. And it's actually still on The Priest. So Bono was originally supposed to play him.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Oh, really? So I'm wondering, after seeing the the movie why you think he dropped out. Wow. I mean, I think we all know. By the way, I honestly think that Dolph Lundgren would do a better job than Bono. Much better. Right. I'm wondering if, did that Mick Jagger piece of shit movie you made me watch last night, what was, did that come out before?
Starting point is 00:46:26 I, well, I can't remember that far. I don't know. I don't remember years. I think that was 92. I'm just wondering if I was Bono and I saw Mick Jagger in that piece of crap, I'd be like, I'm not doing that. I'm gonna run up to the second level because they deserve love too. Get ready. Get ready, get ready middle balcony. Prepare yourselves, you better have some good fucking questions.
Starting point is 00:46:49 While we're waiting, ooh, it's coming back guys. While we're waiting, could someone tell me what the plot of The Matrix is in three lines? Because I'm never going to see it. I'm not joking, I want to know. You know there's three movies, right? For cocktail party, conversation, what are my buzzwords? Paul's up there now, it doesn't matter. Alright, ma'am, your name, your future word and your question. Meredith, my future word is digiborg.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Great. I just wanted to have a discussion about... How far did you get on that date the other night? Well, I digiborg'd her. You know, we made out. We digiborg'd for a little while. It was cool. Did you digi-her-born?
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'm sorry, ma'am. I'm kind of a young lady. I don't think Meredith likes being called ma'am. Ah! I'm a kind of a young lady. I don't think Meredith likes being called ma'am. Sorry. Sorry, young lady. Jason, I'm from Lynn. Watch out, okay? Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Lynn! Lynn! The city of sin!
Starting point is 00:48:02 You never come out the way you went in. Never heard it before. I want to talk about Keanu's companion, whose name I can't remember, and her mesh chainmail shirt. Yes! And how about the fact she's not wearing a bra with that? That's what I want to talk about. I didn't have a problem with it.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Talk about some chafed nipples. God, exactly. Los nipples. And I also want to shout out for 90210. I don't think you problem with it. Talk about some chafed nipples. God, exactly. Los nipples. I don't think you're pronouncing that right. Sorry, what did you say? What did she play? Brandon's girlfriend? Was that Brandon's girlfriend for like the summer?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Was that Emily Valentine? Yes! She was so beautiful. Wait, who is she? She fucks Brandon, guys! Yes! Wanna rewatch that. She was so beautiful! She fucks Brandon, guys! Yes! Wanna rewatch that. Guys, her name is Dina Meyer.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I did a movie with her called Piranha 3D. No big deal. No, you didn't. She's beautiful. She's great. I loved her in the movie. She's beautiful. Alright. But straight up, she should have had a bra. I
Starting point is 00:49:06 disagree respectfully Your name I thought it was great that she didn't have a bra on because you know what I Feel like a bra is a symbol of the patriarchy and I'm firmly committed to toppling the patriarchy. That's great Your name your futuristic word in your question My name is Lacey and my futuristic word is neurobifurcation. Great. And I just think it's worth noting that the brain is estimated to store about 100 terabytes of information, so that's about 0.3% of what he's downloading.
Starting point is 00:49:43 But for Keanu! Ha ha! And also the brain doesn't have any pain receptors in it, so the fact that he's in pain makes absolutely no sense. I love it, I love it! That is a fucking smart question. I love it! I love it! I feel like that's an MIT student right there. Love it. Your name, your future word, and your question.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Scott, microdolphin. And so the dolphin has got all this Russian surplus technology in it. They never at one point in the movie mentioned how they got that. It's all like Singapore and Newark. But didn't they say that he was like going after Russian ships? They said he was tracking them. Because didn't they use dolphins in real war times? Yes, yes. I think so. Something like that. I don't know. Your question is, where did they get the tech for the dolphin? You watched this whole movie and your question
Starting point is 00:50:48 that you want answered is, hey man where'd they get that Russian tech? There's a fucking dolphin whose mind incinerates Dolph Lundgren. Who cares where the tech came from? Are are you what's wrong with you guys and and even if we had that answer would it be interesting to anyone yeah what would satisfy you as an answer we have seen a scene in Moscow where they're like we're missing a bunch of tech I hope no one put it on a dolphin. Get out of my show. We should have stopped taking questions with that brain one. That was a real winner. Sir, your name, your future word, and your question.
Starting point is 00:51:35 My name is Bill. Future word, justjohnny.com. I really feel like we haven't talked enough about Henry Rollins in this movie. He haven't at all. That's great. I agree. Great question. What do you want to say about him? I think Henry... He's great. He's so... I thought Rollins was...
Starting point is 00:51:56 I mean, again... Who is he? He was Spider. He was the character... Spider, right? Was his name... Right? Yes. Yes, yes. Spider. He was Spider. He was the doctor. right was his name right? Yes, yes spider he was spider he was the doctor yeah, yeah, okay, so he's do you know Henry Rollins is in general no Henry Rollins is like a it doesn't matter guys everybody chill out Henry Rollins is is that it doesn't matter He's a musician. He's a lead singer of the band black flag and then at his own
Starting point is 00:52:23 Rollin sort of flag and then at his own. Interestingly... But is he an actor? Sort of. I believe Rawlins and Ice-T body count were the first Lollapalooza together, right? Okay. Which I saw at Great Woods. Right? And Jason Jason am I right or wrong that Johnny Mnemonic did it like an opening like comedy Johnny Mnemonic opened and did up He played. Hey now you're an all star Sir your name your future word and your question. My name is Max. My word is cyber bridge Great. My question is Johnny gives his speech where he Wants a $10,000 night hooker and a beer and pouts in a pile of dirt and then his
Starting point is 00:53:10 bodyguard immediately falls in love with him. What is up with that? He showed his vulnerability. Yeah. Women women love it when you're vulnerable. Yeah. You know. Well we love to see men cry complain about shit Really turns us on like we like what I'm like if a man is strong. It's unattractive when he whines when he whines Then it's like ooh la la All right, this is gonna be our last question unless it's bad. Oh A lot of pressure. I have I have not a lot of hopes for the last question being from the upper back All right, your name your future word and your question. I'll hold the mic
Starting point is 00:53:55 Terrible setup Tony Tony. I believe in you Tony Tony Tony. Let's do this Cyber it's a mammal. Cyber, it's a mammal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nice, nice. I didn't understand the movie. Who was the woman in the computer? Who was the ghost in the machine? Great question.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Great question. Tony. Tony. Give it up for Tony. Tony wins. Who is that woman? At first I thought it was a digital therapist. I thought it was a what?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You thought it was a digital therapist? I thought in the future you would have a digital therapist who would like when you needed help would just be like, Hey, don't call him back. Not now. Take a deep breath. Is that what your therapist does?
Starting point is 00:54:47 Maybe take a bath and then see if you want to call him back. Well, because in the movie, she's like, remember your dead daughter? Yeah. So you thought she was the digital therapist trying to help him get through the grief of his dead daughter. But then she was everybody's therapist, and I couldn't understand.
Starting point is 00:55:05 So kind of like Siri as a therapist. Exactly. Yes. That's what you're going with. Yeah. What do you, what was it? Man, what must it be like to watch a movie from inside your head?
Starting point is 00:55:16 It's a lot like being in that dolphin's head, probably. Loaded with all that Russian tech. Well, OK. Paul, do you know who that woman is? Paul, who's that woman? The woman was the head of the corporation, and she was put in there. She's running the corporation. I don't know how she was put in there.
Starting point is 00:55:31 She's a ghost. She's not anymore in charge. Was her consciousness? No, she is in charge. She's dead. They said that she's been running the corporation from her morbidity. Yes, she's dead, but her consciousness is in the computer. Yes. Okay, let's all freeze for, okay. Let's all freeze for one second
Starting point is 00:55:46 Let's all freeze for one second one of you dumb-dumbs has the actual answer. Who is it? Raise your hand this guy right here Paul this guy seems like Don't grab the mic be cool about everything bro all right Explain the ghostly machine if it's good. We'll let you tell us your name And what better reward could that be Alright, explain the ghosting machine. If it's good, we'll let you tell us your name. Sure. Okay. And what better reward could that be? So basically, Pharmacon doubled this woman's consciousness to serve as, I think, that gentleman over there, as an advisory capacity, not in a full-on, like, oh yeah, she's in charge.
Starting point is 00:56:21 It's like, oh yeah, she, you know, I guess they never wrote anything down. And then we find out later that she's actually, as someone over here is shouting, oh yeah, she's in charge. It's like, oh yeah, she, you know, I guess they never wrote anything down. And then we find out later that she's actually, as someone over here shouting, oh thank you, is actually Johnny's mom. Wait, what? What? What the fuck? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:56:38 No, New York. Ah! I gotta get this guy's name. What's your name? What's your name? My name is Will. Thank you Will. Wow. What are you talking about? Wow, did I miss? There's I No! Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. There's... Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I don't normally... Holy cow. My, you know my, Will, that was amazing. Will. This dolphin seeped into my mind in a really crazy way. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I did an episode of the show I did, NTSF SDSPV, right? Yes, yes, you had a dolphin in that. And we had a dolphin who was in a prison, and he was a super smart Hannibal Lecter dolphin. And I realized when I watch this, oh, that triggered some thing in me. I was like, oh yeah, it should be a dolphin.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Wait, it was not an homage? Nope. It was, but not conscious. It was data seepage. It was, but not conscious. It was data seepage. It was seepage. Obviously we've had an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Here we go Boston.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Here we go, got these two. Come on. Both of you. Those two. You got one? Three. two. Come on! Both of you. Those two. You got one? Three. Four. Come on, here we go. All four. That's it.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Wait a minute, we know these people. Do we know you guys? No, okay. Great. Forget it. Come on forward. And even if we did know you, it's fine. It's now time for second opinions.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Do do do, do do do, do do do do do do do do do well I hate this fucking movie But they've got second opinion Ronnie great job Ronnie come on forward And now it's time for a second second opinion You obviously think your opinion is a fact second second opinion you obviously think your opinion is a fact but I'm here to say that you're just full of crap your opinion might be first but mine will be last it's time for second opinions Samantha give it up for Samantha yeah all right and our third opinion is hey
Starting point is 00:59:04 now we watch a movie it wasn't great for us, but hey, there are second opinions that you'll say, all five stars are gold. Marry me! Will you marry me? Did you just write that? Did you write that now or did you just wrote it? I love you. Did you write that now or did you just wrote it? I think that's amazing. Well done. See, he's here watching the show and creating new material. Duet.
Starting point is 00:59:31 All right, and we're going to end on our final second opinion a duet. Look at this cute outfit. Cute. If you see a Bad Mad V and you leave a review, then it's five whole stars to the second opinion second opinion if you're scrolling through some Amazon reviews looking for a second opinion I'm gonna end right there.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Great work. Amy and Tim everybody! Nice work! What? Don't get greedy. She asked for the pin. She got it. She goes, she was like, she was like walking up and then she goes, can I get a pin? Yeah, women asking for what they want. Yes. Alright people, we're literally running out of time. No, we're locking the doors, we're staying here all night.
Starting point is 01:00:35 What's that? Oh no, I'm being told we can't do that. I'm so, so sorry. If it was up to me, you know I would spend the whole night with all of you, except a few of you, because you're weird. Alright, everybody, so here they are. These are five-star reviews, cold from Amazon. There are 200 reviews of this film. Forty percent of them are five-star reviews.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And here we go. This is written by AB3200 and it was written in March 18th, 2013 and it's called a true classic, if you ask me. When I heard my husband had never seen Johnny Mnemonic, well, that was enough for me. Divorce. that was enough for me. Devoid. I immediately ordered him a surprise gift on Blu-ray.
Starting point is 01:01:30 What a great movie. We thoroughly enjoyed it. Ice-T, awesome. Jones, who doesn't love dolphins? And we both wish we had laser fingernail lassoes five stars here's the thing that's amazing if I was to find myself married and the what my love the woman that I loved was like oh you've not seen this movie it's like my favorite movie I'm gonna get it for you, surprise, here it is.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Let's watch it together. I would most likely divorce that person. I would be like, who do you mean you love this? Who do you mean you love Jones? Who are you? Who are you? Literally, who are you? Edward M. in 2010 wrote this review. The movie was definitely prophetic and thought-provoking.
Starting point is 01:02:33 My brother does research on radiation, radio waves, microwaves, cell phones, etc. And we are literally awash in a sea... That guy's brother works at Radio Shack, for sure. And we are literally awash in a sea of this stuff. There are numerous health issues which this movie in an entertaining way addresses. I enjoyed the characters. Great casting. Five stars. Then we go to this one, a real classic by C.L. Levitt. They have a Keanu Reeves? Five stars. Wait, so for this reviewer, there are multiple So, so for this reviewer, there are multiple Keanu Reeves in the world. Yes. And isn't it lucky that this movie got one of them?
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah. I get it. I'm gonna just say, wait for it on this one. It will be worth it. I won't reveal who wrote it. I'll just say the title is Beyond Corporate Control. It's a little bit long. A fascinating film about people who refuse the modern slavery imposed on the corporate trust that governs and controls the world through dependence on
Starting point is 01:03:59 data processing machines that create a nervous disorder that is both incurable and catching. The models of this underground vision are numerous. Here he sets in the guts of an old decaying bridge so overground and underwater in between two banks it does not join anymore. Great! The most original element is the brain uses a data transporting device that can be hacked or pirated since it's not going through a digital network. And the last load of data comes from China, the future of the world. Though it is ridden with riots and rioting crowds, the anti-Chinese communist element,
Starting point is 01:04:37 it has to be taken to the USA, Newark mind you, to be offered to the world for its own salvation by the underground resistance, AKA the American Boy Scout Do Good Syndrome. Then the other interesting elements are more isolated elements here and there than structuring elements. The dolphin that this poor Johnny obstinately calls a fish is a nice piece of animal and a mammal lore that makes the dolphin-saving intercessor of humanity.
Starting point is 01:05:04 The criminal Christian preacher who crucifies-saving intercessor of humanity, the criminal Christian preacher who crucifies his victims in the name of Jesus, and God as a wink to the fake Christians who are selfish and interested and even greedy with the money and the bigots. Signed Dr. Jacques Couledier, University of Paris, University of Paris 1, Pantheon Sorbonne, University of Versailles, St. Quentin. That was a professor's review. I would love it if he's like, hey, Jacques, can I talk to you in my office for a second? Uh, yeah, why not? So, we've come across a bunch of your Amazon reviews and you are 100% fired.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Because you are a crazy cuckoo bird. They wouldn't give me money for my grant on Johnny Mnemonic, so I'm going to give it to the world for free in the five star review section. My dissertation is written in Amazon reviews. Johnny Domona came out in 1995 and the tagline was the ultimate hard drive. It also was the hottest data on earth in the coolest head in town. By the way both of those are fine by me. Guess what? Like I'm into both of those as titles. I'm into this movie.
Starting point is 01:06:28 And you know what? You love this movie. I love this movie now. And this is like one of your stated hatred, like dystopic future movies. You like this? Now I love it. Wow. She's all on board.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Is there a soundtrack? Yes. Purchasing it. Purchasing it. What is the whole sound? It's like ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding People composed the musical soundtrack. It was Longo the director made one, but that didn't make it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, Longo? First name and last name?
Starting point is 01:07:09 His name is Robert Longo. Oh, oh, oh, okay. And he directed two REM videos in this movie. That's Rat Tail? Mr. Rat Tail? That's the director with the rat tail, yeah. Rat Tatooey? Rat Tail Tilly.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I think he should get rid of his first name. Now- And just be like, hey, Longo. Yeah. Before we wrap up here tonight I'm gonna tell you one thing we all watch this movie There's one person who did not her name is June Diane Raphael and this is June's Best guess on Johnny mnemonic
Starting point is 01:07:42 Hello Boston so sad to not be with you guys. So happy to have not seen Johnny Mnemonic. This title makes me upset. And I only have so many hours in the day. I'm really glad I didn't spend them on this film. However, I am sad to not be with you all. Paul asked me to take a wild guess
Starting point is 01:08:04 of what this movie's about. However, I am sad to not be with you all. Paul asked me to take a wild guess of what this movie is about. I hate this movie so much. I feel like it's probably about this guy, of course, fuck Louis CK again, who I don't know, has some sort of weird disorder where he's constantly being triggered, everything's triggering a memory that he has repressed. Or maybe he goes in for routine surgery and someone installs a chip in his brain and gives him like the memories of someone else. That's actually an interesting film and I'd watch that. But I don't know, I'm not getting a ton from the title. All I know for sure is that I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I don't like it. But I do like you all and I hope you guys have had so much fun and have a great, great show. That was June. By the way, she came really close. She did. I mean, and that's based on, believe me, June has no idea, like, some people will be like, Oh, Johnny and the Monika, that's Canterese. I know what that't really yeah. Yeah. No she has no idea The movie came out in 1995 the top three movies in 1985 were Toy Story
Starting point is 01:09:32 Batman forever and Apollo 13 and in terms of how did this get made movies this movie? was beaten by Congo Mortal Kombat Judge Dredd and Virtuosity and it did beat Fair Game the movie that came in higher. The budget was $26 million and it made $19 million. Wow! I'm actually surprised that some of those movies did better than this. Yeah, I know. That's shocking because as terrible as this movie is, and it's legit terrible, like those some of those movies are like whoa, whoa, whoa,
Starting point is 01:10:09 not good movies. Well, apparently there is a better movie in this. The Japanese version is ten minutes longer with more scenes about Takashi. Yes! No, meaning there's a longer version, a remake of a Japanese movie. No, no, the remake of a Japanese movie. No, the Japanese version of this movie. And they just changed camera angles and apparently it's better. And it's more violent. I will say a lot of my problems with the movie were camera angles.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I felt like if the angles were different, I would have understood a lot more what was going on. We have to wrap up the show so I'm gonna say this really quickly Jess want to you want to promote anything tell anybody anything? Well, I want it up is coming back November 25th, I think and we're gonna be have them every week amazing Yeah, and playing house season 3 is on iTunes and Amazon, so check that out. Great season. Jason? You can watch the, on Netflix there's an animated show called Big Mouth that I am, thank you.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Thank you that I play a character on that is very funny and very dirty. So if you want to see a really funny dirty show, watch that. And that's about it. And I'll plug a new TV show that's coming out on Hulu. It's called Future Man with Josh Hutcherson. I have a couple episodes in there. It's by Seth and Evan who brought Sausage Party to you and the interview. Great. And you can get to see why I would fuck Ms. Pac-Man. That's in the first episode. Can I plug, I want to plug one more. When is this coming? This is later. Unknown, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:51 This is the future. Yeah. So there's a show on whatever CBS All Access is. Oh, that comes out, yeah. That comes out soon called No Activity and it's terrific and it's hilarious. I just am not sure how you watch it, because it's something called CBS All Access. It's an app that you have to buy like Hulu.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I do it because I watch Star Trek. So do that, do that, and watch the show, no activity. And you and I are both on Lady Dynamite, which just came out today. Oh, it did. Yeah. Lady Dynamite season 2. And the Disaster Artist. And Disaster Artist in December me June Jason all right thank you everybody good night
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