How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Judge Dredd (w/ Erica Oyama)

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

A futuristic Sly Stallone & Rob Schneider action flick?? Grab a plate of recycled spaghetti as Erica Oyama (Young Rock, Never Have I Ever) joins Paul, June, & Jason to break down 1995's Judge Dredd. T...hey cover the block wars, the horrible set design, the voice-controlled weapons, and a lot more... but mostly the spaghetti robot over and over again. (Originally Released 07/03/2012) We're coming to NYC on Nov 15th & Philly on Nov 16th! Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and for more on bad movies.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link siriusxm.com/hdtgm and code HDTGM.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Before he was expendable, he was the law. That's right, we saw the futuristic action Stallone Rob Schneider vehicle Judge Dredd. So you know what that means. Oh, in the mediocrity of subpar art, perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? The Bad Movie Podcast. I am joined, as always, by my co-host, June Diane Rayfield. How are you? Good. And Jason Manzoukas. How are you? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Um, if you are just tuning in, well, I don't know why I'm saying I'm just tuning in. Let's edit that out. Just go right from June. No, let's keep it in. Yeah, if you're just tuning in, I don't know why I'm saying I'm just tuning in, let's edit that out. Just go right from June. Now let's keep it in. Yeah, if you're just tuning in. If you're just tuning in. If you're just joining us. If you're just joining us at the very beginning of this podcast. You are just tuning in.
Starting point is 00:00:56 If you're just tuning in, all you've missed is the theme song. You have just tuned in to miss the... If you fast forwarded your podcast to this point and are just tuning in, you will know that we- Don't touch that dial. Well, we're back. You should just play it from the beginning. You really should.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I'm just tuning in. Something happened to your iTunes. Oh, man. We're joined by a very special guest today. She is the writer, creator of the brand new hit web series Burning Love, which you can find on burninglove.com. Please welcome Erika Oyama. How are you?
Starting point is 00:01:32 Hello. Nice to see you. Nice to see you as well. Well, Judge Dredd. Boy, oh boy. Sylvester Stallone, his Judge Dredd. The movie takes place in the third millennium where much of Earth has become an uninhabitable wasteland, and the majority of humanity kind of resides
Starting point is 00:01:48 in these giant mega cities, and basically all justice is in one person, these judges, who are a police officer, judge, jury, and executioner. It seems a lot like Game of Thrones. Like, the setup to me was like Independent cities and just wasteland in between yeah, well it's exactly like Game of Thrones right guys, okay No, not not at all run the end credits run the end credits No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no It didn't movie yet, so I mean it's based on a big premise that could be executed. It's really comic book to write yeah comic book and
Starting point is 00:02:27 So the first thing that I realized in this movie is that even though it's a third millennia Cargo shorts are still in oh yeah, because the first person we meet is Rob Schneider, and he's in those cargo shorts Classics they last the other thing I noticed I was like I They lasted. It's gonna test the time. The other thing I noticed, I was like, I genuinely feel like they shot this entire movie on the same sets as Pluto Nash.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yes! Oh, it looked just like that. It was exactly like Pluto Nash. And I was like, how dare you? It so sounds stagey. Yeah. And it's that same idea of like everything is like, it's the buildings on top of buildings
Starting point is 00:03:04 and all of a sudden the Statue of Liberty is in the middle of the city. It's like, it just, nothing makes sense, but it's trying to be cool. It's trying to be like the fifth element, but with no budget. I was gonna say, everybody wants to be Blade Runner. Yeah, yeah. Nobody is.
Starting point is 00:03:17 No. Yeah, you're right. It is like a lame, it's like a lame French Blade Runner. That took place in two different hallways. Yes. They're like, well let's just do this one in the other hallway but shooting this way. And everyone also, the Futuristic clothes, everyone looked like they were like, reject costumes from Back to the Future 2. Like I was expecting like, Griff Tannen to come out, like, hey, I'm wearing this, like there's like, and these like crazy, like very bright colors colors So we follow Rob Schneider's character who is very excited to be living in a mega city
Starting point is 00:03:48 And is is he's just been released from prison exactly and he's now being moved into his new facility Well first he thinks he's going to Heavenly Haven yes, we have about a five-minute scene where he's in a spaceship looking out the way We have about a five minute scene where he's in a spaceship looking out the window, oh cool, ooh neat. When I go to a movie called Judge Dredd that's like a shoot em up action movie, what I want is for the first eight minutes to be with Rob Schneider. Just having a good time. We don't know when Judge Dredd is coming in.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Just exploring things. Yeah, just fucking, just digging in, digging in with Schneider. So Schneider winds up at this apartment complex where there's a full-on riot. He goes to a... Block wars. Block wars. He arrives in his apartment, finds out it's taken over by these three people who could be in Biff Tannen's gang and back to Beatrice's.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And it's James Reimar. Yes. Oh, really? That's James Reimar, right? I didn't realize that. No, wait a second. Sex and the City, right? I'm almost positive it's James Reimar, who? I didn't realize that. No, wait a second. Wait a second. I'm almost positive it's James Reemar.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Who is the bad guy in... Warriors? In... Let me see. Well, wait, yeah, but no, he's also... I'm thinking of 48 Hours. Isn't he the bad guy in 48 Hours? Oh, I know you're talking about...
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah, let me see. I don't see his name here on the credits. Is it not? I'm wrong? God damn. I mean, it's very hard to decide who's who. It's Squatter one squatter two Zen Zed squatter Aspen guard it's like yeah, no one has really good names
Starting point is 00:05:14 That was Rob Schneider that wasn't his old apartment before he was put in no You didn't know what heavenly gate was like he was living he was moving to heavenly havens So he was excited when he thought it was those hot girls by the pool. He thought that was heavenly havens. Yeah, no, no, no. Heavenly havens is crap. So after you get out of jail in this world, you were given an apartment and a place to live. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's not too bad. I mean, everywhere looks equally bad though. I mean, yeah like what was he expecting really? Yeah? He was I have great news guys He is uncredited Block warlord in judge I am ashamed of this so if you could not put my name in it, that would be ACES. I'm sure that he did it as a favor to somebody. Like, he owed the studio something. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Man, all right, so yeah, he goes in there. And then all of a sudden, he goes to this crappy apartment and a gang is just in there. Neither, they're not really fighting anyone yet. No, they're about to. They're about to fight the people in the building across the street. Because then what happens is the apartment building, this is apparently what block wars are, the apartment buildings just start shooting each other across the street. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Is there any sense like what started this or is it just like senseless violence? Dude, I'm sorry, did you not hear me say block wars? I did hear block wars. Because I'm pretty sure block wars explains everything, even though it explains nothing. Block war is going on, it is the new form of street fights. And now here come the judge dreads, or the judges. The judges. Led by by in this instance Diane Lane Hershey judge Hershey Hershey squirts
Starting point is 00:07:14 Dan Lane comes in and I have to say it is ridiculous there their costumes are ridiculous like they look like characters out of Toy Story. It's like, it's too, like they look like super- I don't know if you saw on the credits that Judge Dredd's costume, specifically, was designed, there was a costume designer, but then his costume was designed by either Georgia Armani or Versace.
Starting point is 00:07:39 No! Yes, I'm dead serious. Paul, look it up. They designed like the name tag that- The different things, those gold plates. Oh, that looked like watch straps? I had a problem with the Judge Dreg costume. First of all, so... Wait, you did? I didn't, I thought it made perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Nope, I had some problems with it. He's got like 25 pounds of gold on his shoulders. They have protective gold on the shoulders. On the shoulders. Why? The rest of his body totally open to being wounded. The rest of his body was like spandex. Yeah, Navy spandex. It was like, load my shoulders up with metal, but leave my chest and head basically uncovered.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Because you know how bad guys go for the shoulders. Protect my shoulders! And also, when you first meet Judge Dredd, he arrives on a motorcycle that's so lame. It's so lame, the kickstand goes down, which makes it even lamer. And then he comes up. Did you meet his lawmaker?
Starting point is 00:08:34 Oh, yeah. Because that's what they're called. The motorcycles? The camera goes up. It hit his cot. Slow-mo. Slow-mo. You get to see that he has some protective knee things on to protect his knees, a big
Starting point is 00:08:47 old cod piece, and then it goes up to his gold thing. It's all about accents for that costume. Just accents. Accent pieces. One of the shoulder things appears to like end in an eagle's head or something. Yes. Right? It comes to a bit of a point.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Oh man. And then- Also, but wait, the best part is, the best part is good just because we passed it by for a second It's when Diane Lane and her rookie partner show up to the block war. She's like we got a call for backup We got a call for backup So she calls for backup to their location, which is the intersection of Abbott Abbot and Costello Avenues And then later they call for, there's a call that goes into something some sort of disturbance at Burns and Allen. What? All of the streets
Starting point is 00:09:34 in this city in the third millennium are named after people from our era. Can I get some backup at Nichols and May please? Backup Back up at Nichols and May. Oh, we've got a fire at Stiller and Mara. Uh, we got a robbery at Smothers and Smothers. I mean, it is crazy what's going on in this movie. Wow. That is hilarious. I thought for sure you guys would have heard that. No!
Starting point is 00:10:00 Let's do that. So they go in and... Because I wrote, did she just say on the corner of Abbott and Costello? Oh my god. So basically the judges go in, they're fighting, and then Stallone comes in, and he decides the best way to take down this block gang is to go above them, shoot holes in the floor, and then fall. Fall from above. Now he's not a robot, he's not super floor, and then fall. Fall from above.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Now he's not a robot, he's not super powered, he's just a man. Or all these dogs. He's still alone. Yeah, he's still alone. And we don't want to give away the twist just yet. But all these judges are just human. But we're prepared to be disappointed when we do. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty great.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And he just shoots out the floor like a cartoon, almost like a cartoon coyote would like saw out a circle and go, and he comes in and goes brrrrrup, brrrrup, and he just kills everybody in the room. Well, but he kills them in very specific ways. He has specific, I guess, gun settings? Yes. Settings on his gun. Voice control.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Better voice control. Thank you, Erica. And when he wants to take out two guys at the same time, he'd run out into the hallway and say to his gun something like, double whammy. Double whammy. It is double whammy. Double whammy. And then come back in and sort of take them out in a one-two.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Well yeah, like the gun was very like, grenade. Now this gun did not look, it was not a very big gun. It looked like a regular handgun. It looked like a Nintendo gun. It did it did it looked like a duck hunt gun Yeah, and he was like and he would just be like grenade lasers and the gun was like okay gotcha here we go. There is nothing that could be more Disadvantages to you in war than having to tell your gun what to do. Yes Like that because there's no way that's helpful. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:46 Like just shoot your gun. You shouldn't have to prepare your gun for battle. Well, he also has to, he can't just say, he can't be firing and go, grenade. He has to bring it to his, he has to bring the hand piece. Go to a quiet place. Yeah. Grenade, grenade.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Armor piercing. He's got to talk into it like it's a microphone. It is not helpful. Well, these guns are interesting because they also can sense when someone else picks them up. Who's not a judge. Who's not a judge because then they explode on that person immediately. Well, they shock them first, don't they?
Starting point is 00:12:20 They shock them and then I think they explode. But if you're wondering at this point in the movie where Rob Schneider is Because he was in that oh wait. Yeah, wait Okay, just take one thing before we reveal where he is so then the rookie goes goes I'm gonna take on the other room of bad guys by myself runs there one shot killed That was it for all that armor for all that headgear one shot the guy is done. It wasn't a massacre, it was like, bang. And he opens the door, there's like four bad guys in the room with machine guns, one guy just shoots him.
Starting point is 00:12:53 One. Just like, bop. No, boop, bye, see you later. And Diane Lane's like, no, why? She's so annoyed. He was my responsibility, I was supposed to look out for him and Judge Dredd's like, don't worry about it. He knew the risks Then we never hear about that guy again though. No that guy. Yeah, and lane moves on pretty quick
Starting point is 00:13:12 By the way, yeah, yeah I think Diane Lane was the only person here really committing to this movie. I like Diane Lane We got to do the one that's the what's the Stallone Julianne Moore movie? We gotta do that too. That's a good one. You know we were saying that we we feel like Stallone is an untapped world that we have to get into. We've been blinded by Nick Cage. I've forgotten about Stallone. Stallone has some- Been hiding under Nick Cage's shadow.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Well, I didn't want to cut you off, but June you said that you wanted to talk about where Rob Schneider was hiding because this is pretty great. Well before, I think before he goes into the apartment, I'm not sure. Rob Schneider sees this little robot walk by. Eat recycled food. It's great for the environment, but for you. Okay for you. Okay for you. Coors. I was just going to say, but the robot is not sponsored by anybody, right? Oh, just Coors Light.
Starting point is 00:14:05 No, Coors, regular Coors Light. Yeah, Coors. I have a question about that food though. It's like a Coors sign like circling on top of the robot. But does recycled food mean that it was eaten, thrown up, and then eaten? Yeah, like what does that mean? Because ultimately during this shootout, we find out later on that Rob Schneider somehow hid himself inside the robot and
Starting point is 00:14:29 Seems to be a covered in spaghetti. He's covered in spaghetti and he's eating that spaghetti So that I don't understand what that spaghetti was. I don't understand how he got covered in it Is it trash? It seems like it's trash. No, I'm guessing it's trash. Oh, okay. But it looks like food. It looked like spaghetti. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Like thrown away food. Oh. I was guessing that it was... But that's not recycled. Well, it is. You could say if I saw a half-eaten hamburger in the garbage and I picked it out, I could say I'm recycling because I'm giving this hamburger a second life, right? It doesn't need to be processed to be recycled, right? Right. I love that this is what we're trying to figure out.
Starting point is 00:15:13 But that was my guess is that this was like basically the equivalent of a garbage can. Yeah, he was a big... I don't know. I really don't know that. Because here's the thing, now I'm almost thinking that he has all this food like sort of in his mouth and all these spaghetti strands all around him. Now what I'm thinking is because later on, there's such a big deal out of him being able to, of Rob Schneider being able to rewire a thing,
Starting point is 00:15:41 that he was actually moving that robot with those spaghetti strands. No. Those were the innards. You are overthinking this. Let's let her figure this out. June, wait a second. Those were sort of the inner workings of that machine and so he wasn't just sitting there eating.
Starting point is 00:15:59 He was actually trying to move, work that robot so that it would work. So the robot is run on the food itself. That's correct. Wow. It's a self-sustaining... So this robot is powered by spaghetti. Yes. And Rob Schneider is manipulating spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:16:14 What we know about Rob Schneider, and June, you have now posited one of the most insane theories in all of How Did This Get Made history, but because what we know about Rob Schneider is that he's a hacker. Yes. Like we are told he's a hacker. That's why he was in prison. That's why he was in prison. That's why he can rewire a robot later, spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:16:31 But you're saying that he's able to hack the food robot by using the spaghetti within it. Okay. That's correct. Do we think, I don't want to rain on your brain, but do you think maybe he's like moving the spaghetti to get to the wires? Maybe there's real wires in there too. From what I remember he didn't even need to hack it. He didn't even need to hack it
Starting point is 00:16:51 He was hiding he didn't he was just hiding out in an R2-D2 I really think so because it's not in line with his character that he would just be sitting there while all this is going on I'm just eating this spaghetti. It's not in line with his character? On what planet does character motivation fit any of this movie? It doesn't seem like it. No, no, this is like, no, to me it was he hid in the robot because the robot was gonna keep going away.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yes. No matter what. And he saw it as a way out. It's basically the equivalent of jumping in a garbage chute. And so he was also, he happened to be hungry as well and then just started eating the spaghetti. I don't remember him eating the spaghetti. He did say he was eating it. He had it in his mouth.
Starting point is 00:17:30 We spent five full minutes of this 35 minute show talking about the most irrelevant scene. Why, well it's not irrelevant because- This scene is the Rosetta, the Rosetta stone for the movie. It's not irrelevant because Judge Dredd judges him, finds him guilty and sends him to prison. When we lose Rob Schneider for a bit, you don't think he's going to come back. We'll see, he'll come back around. And why does he send him to prison?
Starting point is 00:17:58 Because he was hacking the pasta robot. Okay. And so then we cut to a prison in Aspen, the Aspen prison, where a very intimidating Armand de Santé is being in a special cell. The warden comes in. This is what I didn't understand. The warden gives them like a gift. A present, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 A present. Your anonymous benefactor has sent you a gift. Hey, guess what you don't do when you are the warden of a maximum security prison and you have an incredibly dangerous person. Allow anonymous people to send them stuff. Exactly, because. Or like not look at what they're giving.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Not even open it. Because even open it cuz he opens it He opens it. There's a picture of the benefactor who's a news reporter. No, no, no, that's the picture of the person He's supposed to kill. Yeah What it is is the judge dread badge Yes, and the picture of the person he's supposed to assassinate so who sent him that but he had a Rico badge in there I thought the guy no, I thought it's a dread. I. So who sent him that? But he had a Rico badge in there, I thought. The guy. No, I thought it said Dredd.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I thought that was so that that's why he was, remember? Oh, I thought it said Rico. Because his name. All right, we'll see. His name is Rico. His name is Rico. It had to say Dredd because that's who he walked in as. But who sent him that?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Oh, the guy who takes over for Max von Seidler. Oh, all right, all right. Because the guy goes and finds that guy, and the guy's like, we were supposed to meet, we were supposed to meet in secret. You know, all the council members who run America now are foreign. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Which is bizarre. Well, we don't even know if it's America. It's just the world. They're all living in Mexico. I guess so. So this isn't like Aspen, Colorado? Oh, I guess you know, you're right. Actually, you're 100% right.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It is Aspen, Colorado. So he gets this credit card, whatever, that is asthma in Colorado. They go, so he gets this like credit card, whatever, that turns into a gun. Now this is my issue with a credit card that turns into a gun. That's super confusing. It was like a little credit card thing. It was like a box. A very thin box. A very thin box that had stuff in it and then turned into a gun.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yes, you're right. But this is where I was most confused. It would have been a huge problem if it was like a Visa card that turned into a gun, yes you're right. But this is where I was most confused. It would have been a huge problem if it was like a Visa card that turned into a gun. The warden walks into the prison and cameras scan him up and down. He's like voice activation, he's like a warden and so and so. Okay, and it lets him go in. And then later on in the thing,
Starting point is 00:20:18 once he gives Rico the gun, Rico shoots the guy in the throat so he can't voice activate the security systems, but the cameras then shoot him. But it's cameras and voice activation. So you'd think there would be a stopgap at one level. It wasn't just, but the cameras were- The cameras shoot the ward immediately.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah. It's not constantly looking for voice recognition. No. Yeah. I mean, it's not a constant test voice recognition. No, yeah. It's not a constant test. He's already passed, but then when he says to the things like, shoot him, or what does it say? It says, voice not recognized, and it shoots him, the warden instead. Which again, we've been established that these cameras are on the guns too.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So there's a fail safe that went wrong here when the guy gets shot in the throat. Well again, I have to go back to it. I know we just discussed it, but that's spaghetti. No, the warden is bringing- Maybe the spaghetti short circuited in the camera guns. Maybe, maybe. The warden is bringing, I would say, the most dangerous prisoner in this entire prison, right? Yes. Just, okay, he's so dangerous that he's got this protective shield around him. He's like in a magneto prison.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, it's essentially Hannibal Lecter. And he just drops off a present for him. And also, not only that, but when he he goes in the guys in like a protective shield And he's like shields down there are no other guards in the room So now the warden is alone in a room with the most dangerous as like but he's got a voice activation I guess those guns yeah, I guess that yeah, you know that's what he but I was like why would you do that? Why would you and then also again? Why give an asset like an assassin or whatever he is, like a murderous maniac,
Starting point is 00:22:09 an anonymous gift? And then the warden goes, what is it? The warden goes, what is it? Hey, guess what, dum dum, you should know what you're giving the murderers in your prison Hey, oh, hey someone drop this off for you. What is it? It's a gun. Boom. You're dead. Yeah. Oh damn I should check that no X-rays Another question why is it the warden's responsibility to drop this off? Hey the warden likes to deal with his prisoners He's a hands-on warden. He's a hands-on Warden.
Starting point is 00:22:45 He's a hands-on. He wants to make friends. Now, meanwhile, Judge Dredd's in trouble because he killed all those people on the street in the street wars. And now he's being sentenced to... No, no, no. No, no, no, that's not why he's in trouble.
Starting point is 00:22:58 He's in trouble. Oh, okay, so he's in trouble because then Rico, Rico, Armando Santay, leaves. He has the Judge Dredd badge. He goes, he gets a judge uniform. And then he goes in the assassin. No, no, no. But before this, he was getting a talking to you. You have to go teach. Yes, he's getting killed. I'm sorry. I thought you were jumping ahead. Okay. Got it. Got it. You're right. No, no, you're a hundred percent right. I thought you were jumping ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:23 No, no. He killed some people in the street. Now. Hey, you got to go teach class now Yeah, you gotta go teach ethics So he goes to this class with a bunch of like young judges and they start firing on people in judge drag Like they're their target practice is people in Judge Dreg Cost. Yeah It's like why would cops be firing at cops? You killed it. You killed the judge. He was supposed to be demonstrating like the protective gear that he was like this will be yours when you graduate. Wait, how have we gotten this far into this before you bust out your Stallone impression Erica. How dare you hold out on us? I just wanted to make it special.
Starting point is 00:24:07 But like, we just saw somebody die very easily. Yeah, do that uniform. Wear that uniform. Wear a uniform. If you're a very bad shot, you may hit some of the armor that's oddly placed. If you shoot at kneecaps, cod pieces, and shoulders, this will protect you for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Anywhere else you are done for. Oh man, so he's teaching classes and then gives this really depressing long monologue about the life of the judge, is that you judge and then you judge and then we find out that if you're a good judge, then you retire by being sent out into the cursed earth. On the long walk to just dole out judgment for the rest of your days. I guess?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah? I mean like. I was confused about that. We see Max. Von Sido. How do you pronounce it? Oh, I say Von Sido. Von Sido.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I'm not sure. Yeah, whatever. Either way. Von Sydow. Von S... how do you pronounce it? Oh, I say Von Sydow. Von Sydow or Sydow? Von Sydow. I'm not sure. Yeah, whatever. Either way. On the long walk later on in the movie. And it just seems like he's like going out to die. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Right. Okay. I think that's part of it. I think that you don't... Oh, that's a part of it. I think that the idea is that you will die... Like, you judges don't die, they are killed. I guess, right?
Starting point is 00:25:23 I mean... It seemed to me to be like a kind of like, almost barbaric, like you outworn your purpose, now wandering the wilderness. Like a Viking funeral. Wandering the wilderness. As long as you survive is how long you survive, but the presumption is you are now walking to your death.
Starting point is 00:25:40 That's kind of beautiful. To me it was like Marley and me when the dog knew he was gonna die. He goes out by that tree and then then then let it all happen You know what we've not talked about is the fact that the judges have co-ed locker rooms. Oh, yeah They've co-ed locker rooms and at the beginning of the movie Diane Lane comes up to Judge Dredd and she's like trying to talk to him Like a human being he's like I don't understand But and she's like haven't you ever had a friend and he goes yes, and she goes what happened and he closes his locker
Starting point is 00:26:09 He goes I judged him The locker room situation I actually think that I mean my impression isn't as good as Eric as I'm sorry But I think that I'm not sure that in this world judges or anyone have genitals and that there's like, I'm dead serious. Well, they have the giant cockpit. Wait a second. Let's let June chase this down because this is interesting. First the pasta robot now.
Starting point is 00:26:37 They're filled with spaghetti. They're made of spaghetti. They've got spaghetti genitals. They wear those spandex outfits the whole time in the locker room, so we never see anyone's body really. And then later on, when Rico's making clones of himself, those clones from what we see do not have genitalia. Well, they weren't fully formed.
Starting point is 00:26:58 In the last 30 minutes. So you think the last 30 minutes was saved for the sex organs. But by the way, Judge Dredd and Rico are the only, I mean spoiler alert, are the only artificially made judges. Everybody else is just like, they're just like the police force basically. They're just people who signed up to be judges and now they're cadets and blah. Like Diane Lane has a stone cold vagina in this movie.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Like she's living. She would use it. She wants to get. She wants to use it on Judge Dredd. She wants to get plugged by Dredd. She wants her to judge him with his dick. He's like he's like he whispers to his dick come. His dick is like his gun. Guys do you get it hopefully, hopefully he doesn't say to his dick, signal flare. Right guys? Signal flare? Signal flare? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Absolutely. I don't understand sex. My favorite thing about their locker room conversation is that she's like, that was really depressing what you told them. Like the cadets, like how do you want to sugar coat it? This world is so depressing. Yeah. Everybody die. Yeah. Oh yeah, you don't want to sugar coat it? This world is so depressing. Everybody dies.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah, oh yeah, you want to sugar coat the world where everywhere is desert and in the desert there are cannibals and in the mega cities it's like, yeah, you shouldn't be alive. And she's like, I have friends, like I hang out. Like, where does she hang out? Yeah, we never see her with friends either. She let her partner die and she never talks about him again.
Starting point is 00:28:23 She's like, I've got friends. We go to that Pluto Nash bar all the time. We're having a great time. We go see Jay Moore sing his song. Yeah, we're gonna go to Lunar Beach. I got one of those Randy Quaid robots to keep me company. Guys, why is there a giant robot in this movie? Oh.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Like from Real Steel. Yeah, Real Steel. Why is there a fucking- Rico decides to pull out the old big giant robot to do his bidding. Now Rico is a judge who was judged by Stallone. They were brothers, but not really brothers. And...
Starting point is 00:28:53 They're really brothers. They're like test tube brothers. But they didn't know that. It's like twins. They were twins, they are twins. Did you feel like that Armand Desante was trying to do a Stallone impression? A little bit, yes.
Starting point is 00:29:03 But I gotta say that one thing about this movie I really bought by the end, that to me they were starting to do a Stallone impression. A little bit. Yes, but I gotta say that one thing about this movie I really bought by the end, that to me they were starting to look a lot like each other. And not like before. No, I actually thought it was good casting. Yeah, it was really good casting. They did seem alike in a good way. Eyes were spaced in the same,
Starting point is 00:29:18 like this exact same distance from each other. Yeah, that's what I noticed too, the eye spacing. I was like, are they related? Well, let me check out the one marker of relatedness, eye spacing. Ooh, they did a good job. The casting director's like, we're looking for the same eye spacing.
Starting point is 00:29:34 So that's all ethnicity. If you can please submit actors who have 23 centimeters between their right and left eyes. Look, you would have gotten the part, but it you had 19 Fucking lost it again to that guy who's got perfect eyes, baby I would like to actually play this clip This is a clip of just Armand de Santé and Sylvester Stallone just yelling at each other And this is a perfect example of them both losing their voice to take a listen to this
Starting point is 00:30:04 Why did you judge me you killed it is a perfect example of them both losing their voice. So take a listen to this Why did you touch me? You killed innocent people? The means to an end. You started a massacre. I caused a revolution. You betrayed the law! RAAAW! I love that clip. I love the fact that it's like just Armand Desandes going RAAW! Doesn't even make any like Armand Desandes out Stallone Stallone He's just vocalizing These two brothers anyway, so Stallone Stallone to his face. He's just vocalizing. These two brothers. Anyway, so Stallone's framed for killing this reporter, who's doing stories on the fact that these judges
Starting point is 00:30:35 have too much power. Now here's my question. When Stallone is framed for killing this reporter, how come he himself is not judged and executed right then and there? He goes to a court? It defeats the whole purpose of the movie well No, I assume because the judges can't judge each other they have to be judged by the council But he judged Rico who was a judge
Starting point is 00:30:58 There are some situations where there are trials, but 90 situations where there are trials but 98% of the time. When you kill news reporters, that calls for a special trial. A special tribunal needs, because there is a videotape of Judge Dredd coming in, killing. By the way, a really shoddy videotape. In a thousand years, videotape footage should be flawless. Well also, why would this guy have a camera in his living room? Don't know. Here's the whole weird thing about the movie.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Because he's a pervert? Yeah. That's for his home sex tapes and he's like, oh good thing it caught my murderer. By the way, I felt like when he was shot up in his apartment with his wife there, we've just gotten to know, it was like this kind of sweet lady. That was just dark to me. It was like, this kind of sweet lady. That was just dark to me. It was like, why do we have to put her in there? I don't know, I wasn't setting.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Oh, why does she have to be sacrificed? Why do they have to kill Vargas? Well, you know what though, to be honest, she was cheating on him. So, you know, she was cheating on him. With a pasta robot? She was cheating on him with a pasta robot. So really, to be honest with you, she kind of deserved it. She deserved it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was a on him with a pasta robot. So really to be honest with you, June, like she kind of deserved it.
Starting point is 00:32:06 She deserved it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was a real bitch. No, I told her a lot better about it. And she was a racist. Here's the fatal flaw of the movie though. We're supposed to... This one? The fatal flaw?
Starting point is 00:32:17 The only one. The only one. We're supposed to be... Okay, so there are these two brothers, one who doesn't believe in the law at all and Wants this sort of lawless land right of just complete chaos Yeah and the other who Abides by the law and whose whole life is the law and the code of ethics around the law But the problem is is that Stallone is actually a very trigger-happy cop He's not at all like this fair, reasonable, ethical cop. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Well, I mean, he only kills people that are killing people. Yeah. But he's very quick to judge people. He sent Schneider to jail for being in that. But that's the law. He has the law. The book, you know, he's got the book. But then, okay, but riddle me this, then why is he sent? for being in that. But that's the law. That's the law. The book. The book.
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Starting point is 00:33:13 then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then, but then So, Judge Dredd and Judge Rico are brothers, right? The test tube, they were created by the council to be the perfect judges, right? But what they accidentally did
Starting point is 00:33:34 was create men without remorse, right? And what Rico turned into, one of them says at the time, one of them says, instead Rico turned into the perfect criminal, right? And Judge D instead Rico turned into the perfect criminal, right? And Judge Dredd turned into the perfect judge, but I think… I don't think he was the perfect judge. I think that's exactly how it's described in the movie too. It's like, something happened and he became the perfect criminal.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And that's like all the explanations. But I think what they… It is like twins. One became the perfect genetic person and the other one was the sloppy Danny DeVito. Rico is DeVito and Schwarzenegger is Stallone. I think he sends him to do ethics because I think Max Vonsido is worried that he lacks some humanity or some human empathy or something like that is the problem and he wants him to attach more to people. So are you colored contact
Starting point is 00:34:20 though right? Oh is he? Vonsido? No Stallone. Does he have blue eyes? I only know how far apart they are. I do not know the contact. The amount that we're talking about eyes in this podcast is unbelievable. For a movie that takes place a lot of time with people wearing visors. Yeah Stallone is wearing a helmet. By the way in the comic book comic book judge dread never takes off his helmet and this one still owns Like all right. Yeah, I'll take this off immediately It doesn't seem to me that salon is the yes, he is wearing a nice to begin with. Okay good. He's the one everybody Okay, this is what I think judge dread is essentially Robo cop right? Yeah, right? He's not a robot and he's just a good cop I mean all those judges are like that, right? I Get no no no, they're all just like regular police. That's I'm saying but he's I mean to all those judges are like that, right? I guess? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:05 They're all just like regular police. That's what I'm saying. But he's, I mean, to his knowledge, until later in the movie. He is too, I think what the point is, he's too severe. That's what I'm saying. But he's not killing normal people or anything like that. He's just, he's too, he's too by the book. He judges Rob Schneider and sends him to prison because that's what the book says.
Starting point is 00:35:24 For crying he didn't really commit. He he did he did monkey with the poster robot you really want to make a case out for Judge Dredd. He's the good guy He's a little like look he's a motionless He's a little by the book by the book He's too by the book and the book says he violated his parole and he was tampering with a fucking Those are the rules what Judge Dredd doesn't have is the ability to make in the moment decisions about like oh Extenuating circumstances right tells me you were trying to escape a murderous situation He just is going by the book right you did this And you gotta go to jail
Starting point is 00:36:15 Aspen Terrible yeah, that's been really went downhill. Holy shit. This is the best conversation. We've ever had Holy shit, this is the best conversation we've ever had. Uh... How did this get me? How did this get me? So, Stallone is found guilty of killing Vartis, the reporter, not his wife. And by the way, Diane Lane represents him. Oh yeah, Diane Lane is his lawyer.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Because she was top of her class in law understanding or whatever. Because she's a judge! They're all lawyers, I mean that's the other thing, they're all lawyers in this world. They don't need lawyers. He really could represent himself. Right. Yes. And then he's found guilty. And when he's found guilty, he gives this speech. And what was the result of the computer check of the DNA coding on those bullets?
Starting point is 00:36:56 The DNA is a perfect match for Judge Joseph Drenne. So I, the evidence has been falsified. It's impossible. I never broke the law. I am the law. Which is I think Oscar worthy So he is now So you know he is sent to Aspen And the reason why he's found guilty is because they find his DNA. Yes. On the gun.
Starting point is 00:37:28 On the bullets. On the bullets. On the bullets. Which makes sense when you find out that he was actually genetically mutated in Armand DeSantis. The same genetic, yeah. The same genetic man. The same genes, same eye spacing.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Perfect crime. Yeah, the eye spacing. Perfect crime. This is where, this is what happened, This is my favorite part of the man get found guilty for similar eyes your eyes are My favorite part of the movie comes at this section he's sent to Aspen he gets on this flight With Rob Schneider the plane is shot shot. Reunited. Reunited at last, it feels so good. The plane is shot down by some cowboy cannibals.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yep. Who decide they're gonna eat everyone on this flight. Yeah, and they're so excited to shoot down this plane. Because the harvest has come. Yep, yes, exactly. Oh my gosh. That's upsetting. So these cowboys are gonna eat everybody. Rob Schneider Schneider is like don't eat me don't eat me
Starting point is 00:38:29 I got warts and eczema and zits That was his defense on not getting eaten We've also not please. I mean, it's it is like an inbred. It's basically hillbillies. Yes is what it is It's like an inbred dad his two two sons, who are like gross animals, and then a cyborg. And then a half man, half metal machine cyborg who has an arm that is like a gun and a blade and like scissors. I don't even- A ball at the end of it?
Starting point is 00:39:00 I literally- A ball! There is a giant round ball at the end of it. First did not know what was going on with it. First generation Edward Scissorhands. It was so crazy. But it doesn't have another arm at all. No, missing one full arm.
Starting point is 00:39:13 If you can make that arm a robotic Insanathon, but you can't give him another arm at all, the other arm is just amputated. Like, what are you doing? You're doing some things wrong. Yes. You're doing some things wrong. Yes. You're definitely doing some things wrong. Now, they, now, there's some, like, there's some logic jumps from this part of the movie on, which I think-
Starting point is 00:39:32 There are? Yeah. Because up until this point, it's made perfect logical sense. I do feel like there were some big cuts made, like, oh, yeah, I got to stand in 95 minutes. And there's one glaring one coming up, but what happened to the rest of the crew of that ship? Did they all die? They all died, remember? And then the judges send judges, the secret, the black suited judges, and they're like,
Starting point is 00:39:51 the pilot's still alive, and the council member is like, no one leaves that plane alive, fine dread. Okay, all right. So they shoot. Everyone died on that plane, and the guy shoots them. But we're not to understand that the council member had anything to do with that plane going down. No, no, do with that plane going down. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:06 The plane going down was just a fluke. No, no, no, it's not, it's a cannibal shot. Cannibal shot and just, and it's also a fluke that Max Winsiddo on his walkabout finds Judge Dredd in a cave. Happens to find him in the middle of the earth. I thought that they were in charge of the plane going down. I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And that the hillbillies were like, yes, God is bringing us people to heat. I don't think so though because, no, because that allowed Judge Dredd to get away. And that's when that was like, the hillbillies shoot it with a rocket. They want Judge Dredd to get killed. But they shot it with a rocket. But you know what I think maybe, maybe what they did was they told the coordinates to the cannibal cowboys. And they go, hey guys, if you want to eat good, there's a ship coming by. Come check it out. I'm not buying it.
Starting point is 00:40:48 So they have this big fight scene with the cannibal cowboys. They defeat them. Max von Sydow dies. And then... Very quickly. Very quickly. He's like... Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Saves a day in death. There's nothing better than a death scene between one of the greatest actors of all time. Yes. And Sylvester Stallone. Like that conversation is next level crazy. Like it is the most bizarre set of acting styles I've ever seen. Well, do you think that he brought the A game
Starting point is 00:41:21 out of Stallone in that scene? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's, you know what's a great scene there? That is like a trio of powerhouse actors. Von Seidl, Stallone, Schneider. Armand Assante. Just killing it in that scene. So amazing.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Is this one of the lines, I'm looking at quotes on IMDb, it goes, the blind lady, who is she, sir? Oh my God, it's justice. Yeah, justice before your time. We should have never taken justice out of her hands. You put order to chaos, sir. Yeah, we solved many problems, but we created many more. Yeah, the blind lady, the statue of blind justice
Starting point is 00:41:58 is just happens to be in this little cave area. Yes, okay. In the hillbilly's house. In the hillbilly's house. In the hillbilly's house. In the Hillbillies house. Yes. In the Hillbillies house, there is a statue of justice, right? Who has huge tits? Oh, I didn't notice that.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I didn't notice that. The statue of Lady Justice is stacked. Well, we all know that the- That's what I remember. That's always the case, though. Really? Yes. Cannibal cowboys have won allegiance to the Lady of Justice.
Starting point is 00:42:23 That's why they keep it in all their caves. By the way, in that death scene, it was thunder and lightning out, but they're deep in a cave. The cave is illuminating like there are windows throughout this cave the entire time. It's like, pshhh, pshhh. They're like, oh yeah, we'll make it dramatic. We'll put some thunder and lightning in. Yeah, just put some sound effects of thunder and lightning.
Starting point is 00:42:42 So Judge Dredd now has to make it back to his city. Make it back to his city. The only problem is the only entrance to the city emits fire every 30 seconds. So like a video game they need to run inside the fire tunnel and time it. There's a straight line. Rob Schneider trips because he's nothing nothing nothing nothing. Not just trips but trips and stays down. Freezes. Yeah stays down. Help!
Starting point is 00:43:12 Dread! Like what? I really did want to know what was going on with him in that moment. Like he just, do you think he was just frozen with panic? I guess? He trips over nothing and then stands there like but stands there like he can't get out of anywhere but we don't see anything. His character changes to whatever the scene needs him to be, funny, mean, sarcastic.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And they never understood why they needed to be teamed up together. There was never a reason why they needed, only at the end does his purpose come in, but there's no reason, there's not like, come with, like there's no reason why I need to come with him. And their big plan to escape that fire tunnel was they'd run about 30 feet in and then Judge Dredd would shoot the floor again like Wile E. Coyote, carve out a little hole and then drop down. But like why couldn't they do that right when they got in? They were like, no we'll run, we'll make it really dramatic and then shoot out the floor and then dive in. Oh wait, can we go back to when he was stuck in the hillbilly house and they're like tied
Starting point is 00:44:07 up hanging from the thing and then all of a sudden, like whenever he feels like he needs to, Stallone can just get himself out of his robes? Oh yeah, easily. Never not a problem to get out of his robe. No problem at all. He's like, okay I'm gonna get out now. Well and what Schneider keeps on doing throughout the film is calling him by his Christian name, Judge Dredd, which people go crazy about once they realize who he is.
Starting point is 00:44:31 But he does that a number of times. So much so that Judge Dredd at some point is like, will you shut your mouth? Or something like that. You talk too much. Yeah, you talk too much. That's exactly what it was. Because they're on the prisoner transport and Schneider realizes it and is like, Dread? And then the other prisoners are like, huh?
Starting point is 00:44:49 Because Judge Dread apparently put every prisoner into prison. And also, it activates one of the prisoners on that prison transport. Who happens to sneak a knife in? And can get out of his restraints? Yeah, easily. Sneaks a knife out of his leg. And he walks around freely on that. Yeah, no one patted down these criminals before they got on their prison transport.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Like a full knife. Yeah, it was like Con Air style prison transport. No one ever checked these guys. He pulled out a knife, cut his restraints, and then tried to stab Judge Dredd. Oh boy. So now, this is where I got confused. This?
Starting point is 00:45:23 This is, they get into this, they get back into the city, and then all of a sudden Judge Dredd's in full costume. You don't understand how that happened. I don't know. They get so easily into the craziest part was like when Rob Schneider, they're in the locker room and Rob Schneider's like, am I in the right place? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:45:44 How did you, it would be like, it would be like as if you snuck into the most protected city and then made your way into CIA headquarters. And we're just like, what's going on, guys? By the way, were we led to believe or, that the entire Judge Dredd headquarters was in the Statue of Liberty or is that just with, okay.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So yeah, the- Oh no, no, no, no, no. Oh, just that sort of- Sorry, the secret lab, the secret lab I believe was under the Statue of Liberty or is that just with, okay. So yeah. Oh no, no, no, no, no. Oh, just that sort of confuses. That was just ricas. The secret lab, the secret lab I believe was under the Statue of Liberty because that's where the power surge comes from. I thought it was on top in the crown.
Starting point is 00:46:12 It was in the crown because they shot out that part of the Statue of Liberty's face. Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. Oh man. So what was Rob Schneider talking about when he was like, what do we do? Just say, cursed earth pizza? Yeah, that was my favorite line.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Get into the headquarters that they easily get into yeah he's like how we supposed to get in here cursed earth pizza and then they were in you never saw they got it there was no reason and then all of a sudden and basically constantly she's Stallone's being framed by Rico Rico kills every member of like the the council's I thought politics were boring. And then Stallone comes in like two seconds later, hey, wait. And then Rico runs off and then someone's like, hey, Judge Dreg killed all these people. It's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I also love these members of the council, because every time one of their ideas isn't passed, and this happens with Max Vonsado, too, they just resign. Yeah. They're like, I'm out. I'm out. Oh man. So, man oh man. I don't even know where. It's so terrible. It's really terrible.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And by the way, the Statue of Liberty they established has been moved from where it was to the middle of the dystopian Pluto and Ash style city. Yes. This is there. So there's like skyscrapers all around it and just the Statue of Liberty. Where it's holding a secret lab. No one ever thinks that it's a secret lab. It's a secret lab.
Starting point is 00:47:16 It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab.
Starting point is 00:47:24 It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab. It's a secret lab. It's a secret city. Yes. This is there. So there's like skyscrapers all around it and just the Statue of Liberty. Where it's holding a secret lab. No one ever thinks to look inside the crown of the Statue of Liberty. Oh, where What's-her-name is. We've forgotten What's-her-name. The scientist. Who works in... Joan Chen. Yeah, Joan Chen. Dr. Lisa Hayden. She was on Twin Peaks, right? Yeah. The Last Emperor and Lust, Caution, and Home-Sung Stories. That's what I see here. And she's just there and is neither good nor bad and then becomes a bad guy. Yeah, nope, she's a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:47:53 You know there's going to be a bitch fight when you see a short-haired Asian. You know it's coming. Well, Diane Lane and her really go to town. They have a big fight. Stallone has a big fight with Rico. But my favorite thing was that Rico programs that giant robot to rip off everyone's arms and legs, like, rip
Starting point is 00:48:11 their arms and legs off. Like that was their big move. And then he was like, no, rip his head off and give it to her. And then it's like, what is going on? He said about her, cut that bitch's arms or rip that bitch's arms. Really, like quite a lot. Especially to that council member who obviously didn't want Rico to use his own DNA to create this clones.
Starting point is 00:48:35 He wanted to use the best of the council's DNA. And so was fighting him on that point. But to rip that guy's arms and legs off for that? He's helped him so much up until that point. Yeah, no, rip his arms and legs off. The robot is so extraneous. The robot is fully unnecessary. I have to ask, did he set up the robot as having, were these robots once running rampant through the city?
Starting point is 00:49:00 Were they just a part of everyday life there? No, no, no. He gets it from like that. So he just finds one in a pawn shop? Yeah. Oh no, I think it was the original Judge Dredd robots, right? Because he, because I think because he said like, oh, they can only be activated by Judge Dredd things
Starting point is 00:49:13 and he touched it and then the robot came on. And he's like, mission, bodyguard. Yeah. Double whammy. I think maybe. Double whammy. I don't know, I couldn't figure out what the purpose of those robots were.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Or maybe it was just a bodyguard robot, I don't know. But the robot is a fucking- He was having like it was a bodyguard robot. I don't know. But the robot is a fucking... He was having a love affair with that robot. He had so many tender scenes with the two of them. He is straight up fucking that robot if he had genitals. And by the way, that robot is real steel. Just a picture in your head, it looks like a robot from real steel.
Starting point is 00:49:38 It's like really lanky and big. And the whole last section of the movie, the rope of poor Diane Lane, I can't imagine what the action was. She just had to be, she was being held in place by her head by the robot. Oh, that was terrible. Like that act, those days acting must have just been brutal. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Just make, just pretend like it's holding your head. Okay, but it's not hurting, you're just stuck. And then, you know, Rico knows he's outnumbered, so he goes, unleash the clones. Like, well, look, it's too early. The clones are like, they're half formed. It's four more hours. Like, all right.
Starting point is 00:50:14 So they release these, like, zombie clones that are all coming out of goo. And they're just got slimy mummies. Yeah, they're slimy mummies in muscles. And how do they even get rid of those guys? That's never explained. Who knows. Yeah, they don't right? Clones never come back Sequel
Starting point is 00:50:28 Sequel the clones come back in the sequel to fight baby Godzilla So I mean then basically of course is a huge fight scene and the front face of the Statue of Liberty Judge dread hangs outside the window and Rico hangs outside the window and then well Schneider turns it around turns the robot right? Yes, oh, that's right Pause Armand Asante gently in the face And we're like oh that was the thing about those fight scenes you could see everybody clearly and it was clearly like okay We're gonna stage it like all stage fighting I was like I'm gonna punch you but I'll be five feet away from you like yeah
Starting point is 00:51:04 Every punch was not coming anywhere close to the actors. It was like everyone was like, what? But yeah, you're right. That robot just pawed Armando's like, get down. He ripped everybody else's limbs off. Then Rob Schneider gets in the back. Yeah, Rob Schneider basically tweaked the robot. He hacks it, he hacks it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Spaghetti style, spaghetti style. He gets into the spaghetti guts of the robot. All robots are made of spaghetti. He finds a bunch of rigatoni in there. Oh, that's why. It's rigatoni. To al dente. I know rigatoni.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I know this. I can do this. You can do this, man. Connect the rigatoni to the ziti and I just have to upload the penne. They're obviously... It's got a bad gnocchi core. I have to upload the pen, eh? Um, they're uh, obviously, obviously we- It's got a bad gnocchi core! Pfft!
Starting point is 00:51:50 Ehhhh! We gotta make a movie where all robots are run on pasta. The pasta robots! That should be the sequel to Judgement. I will say, um, Sylvester Stallone had some complaints about this movie. In 2008 he said, I loved that property when I read it because it took a genre that I love, the action morality genre, and made it a bit more sophisticated. There's a lot of action in the movie and some great acting too, but it wasn't balls to the wall.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I look back on Judge Dredd as a real missed opportunity. It should have been more funny and fun. What I learned out of that experience was we shouldn't have tried to make Hamlet. We should have tried to make Hamlet and eggs. Oh my God. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? We shouldn't have tried to make it Hamlet.
Starting point is 00:52:44 We should have made it Hamlet and eggs. So he misjudged it. You're, oh my God. The worst. There's a lot of word play around judging in this movie. There is, obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there was some people who thought more highly of it. So now it's time for a second opinion. Obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there were some people who thought more highly of it.
Starting point is 00:53:05 So now it's time for a second opinion. [♪ Music Plays And Ends With A Cello G major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C major scale and a C can enjoy and a film that my father isn't complaining about at the end is the rarest thing I can think of. Judge Dredd is one of these very very very very few films. My father isn't complaining about this movie but he actually praises it and wants to watch it again. Even with our incredibly high expectations everyone in my family including my father loves this movie. That's a five star review. Now that would be interesting, but here's the second review. Whoa! What a great Stallone film. I haven't seen a great one since Ants. Stallone may not be the handsomest guy, but he is a good actor. My father especially loves the line.
Starting point is 00:54:05 What is going on right now? What is happening? For real, I'm freaking out right now. My father especially loves the line. I knew you'd say that. As a matter of fact, it's become one of our family's favorite sayings. So these are two reviews about dads. So for Father's Day, pop in Judge Dredd.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah. And bond with your dad. And then I only picked out this review here. That was also a five-star review. I only picked out this one because it was written in 2011. This is one of the best comic to film adaptations ever made. If you're not familiar with comics and graphic novels, you can't appreciate what a fine film this is.
Starting point is 00:54:51 This is done in 2011. So that means that Spider-Man has come out, Batman, both Batman, X-Men, a lot of movies have come out, but this is to be the best, the best comic movie. Oh man, any final thoughts on this? This is a good one. Oh, I think you should definitely. Oh, and it's on YouTube. It's on YouTube, the full movie's on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:55:11 It might be hard for you to find. It is on YouTube. It is well worth the watch. And there's some stuff that we haven't even touched on. I just want to thank Andrew Vagina for producing it. I saw that too! How could that guy not have changed his name? That must be really difficult. I didn't notice that. One of the producers name first thing up is Andrew Vagina.
Starting point is 00:55:33 V-A-J-N-A. Vagina. Wow. Well there you go. Yeah you gotta change that if you're gonna be in Hollywood. So we highly recommend it. Andrew Vagina by the way. Let's see. He is he's done a lot of different things he has School for scumbags he's the producer on that He did basic instinct to Only produced the movie I spy the remake with Eddie Murphy and Owen Wilson Oh my god, and and let's see anything else the 13th warrior and Evita And Nixon he's actually has a pretty impressive career So we all highly recommend it we're all down everybody loves Vagina right we love it a lot
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Starting point is 00:56:37 Get on that. BurningLove.com. Yeah. Thank you. June really likes to plug the Yahoo address. I didn't mean to, Eric. I was a mistake. She really likes to plug Yahoo. She doesn't didn't mean to, Erica, I was a mistake. She really likes to plug Yahoo,
Starting point is 00:56:46 she doesn't like the direct link to burninglove.com. That's fine, anyway, people- Isn't it a part of Yahoo, though? It is, but we just did the Burning Love, so people could find it. Yeah, so- Wait, is it The Burning Love or Burning Love? It's just burninglove.com.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Burninglove.com, it's hilariously funny, it's super great, it has so many awesome, awesome people in it. And what else, Jason? I don't know when this is coming, when we're putting this up, but if the dictator is still out, I'm still in it. You're still in it. You are still in it, right? That is true. I've been assured that I'm going to be in it for the run of it being in theaters. If it goes on DVD, will you be in it on DVD? When it comes out on DVD, I will be cut out completely.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Oh, wow. All right. Which will make the movie make less sense. Let's make this last for you. Um, I uh, you can follow me on Twitter, I'm at Paul Shear. At Miss June Diane. I'm not on Twitter. And Erica? I'm at Erica Oyama.
Starting point is 00:57:38 If, oh, how do you spell that? O-Y-A-M-A. Perfect. Like Obama with a Y. Oh, look nice. And if you think you're following me on Twitter, that's not meY-A-M-A. Perfect. Like Obama with a Y. Oh, look nice. And if you think you're following me on Twitter, that's not me. Yeah, that's not Jason. Although that person did a very good job of trying to make it seem like he was me.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Trying to mimic me, yeah. Oh, like a pastiche. Yeah, Kroll thought it was me. I know, I emailed him, I was like, you should take down that thing. A big thanks to everybody here at Earwolf. Cody, our engineer, Caroline, who does all of our web stuff, and Dave Steffi, who pulls all of our clips. Thank you so much, join us next time. Bye bye.

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