How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Ladybugs LIVE! (w/ Patton Oswalt)

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

Comedian Patton Oswalt (A.P. Bio, Mystery Science Theater 3000) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1992 sports-comedy Ladybugs starring Rodney Dangerfield. They talk about the lady who faints in the dressing room scene, Jackee’s sub-eating technique, and Rodney breaking into song for no reason. Plus, a special guest from the movie gives us insight from being on set during audience Q&A! (Originally Released 03/02/2018) Tix for our Spring 2025 tour in Austin, Denver, Seattle, Boise, San Fran, Portland, & Los Angeles are on sale now at hdtgm.com.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

We are moving. I mean not by much but just a little bit. How did this get made? Matinee Mondays are now going to be called How did this get made? Matinees because they're coming out on Tuesdays so hold on to your britches because this surely is gonna upset your apple cart. No we appreciate you guys listening and we want to just give you a heads up so next Monday you don't come yelling at us. You can't say, producer Scott, why didn't you, Paul, get me getting, I gotta get on the Reddit and yell at you. No.

Matinee Mondays will now just become Matinee Tuesdays. Doesn't sound as good. Maybe it's called How Did This Get Made Matinees. We're gonna figure out the title. But anyway, see you next Tuesday. It's like a non-consensual Mrs. Doubtfire with a lot more pedophilia jokes. We saw Ladybugs, so you know what that means. How this Schwarzenegger grow baby in his belly Rock a rhinestone vest while ripping Justin

De Kelly Or maybe see a burlesque show with Nick Crow And take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control J-Man, Big Paul and the beautiful June Gonna take you from the goon all the way to the room Rander games and street fighter hope to blow off steam Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green Shock needle to birdemic how we stayin' alive They call it in the badass and he's on the line Crankin' 88 minutes cause they cool as ice

Cause a bad Jim Barney lookin' kinda nice Paul and June gettin' literal, Jason is gettin' laid June is makin' sure all the monkey shots gettin' paid They judge a bunch of movies while they makin' the grade Here's a real question for you, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth! And hello, people of Los Angeles! We are live at Largo, our home in L.A., for a very exciting night to talk about a very important movie.

The film is Lady Bugs. It's a movie that you might think, I loved that when I was a kid. And chances are you haven't seen it in 30 years. Um, let's get into it, but first let me bring out my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzoukas! Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh What's up jerks? Welcome Jason. How are we doing everybody?

I feel like I could be arrested for having watched this movie. Also, please stand up. Oh, we have two members. There are Ladybugs in the audience! Give it up for the Ladybugs! We have two members of our audience dressed in the appropriate ladybugs jerseys. Amazing. Thank you for that. Thank you.

Eagle Eye, Jason Manzoukas. Well, we have a lot to talk about. And I'm going to bring out someone who has a definite point of view. A person who, when I told her the movie it was, she said, that's my favorite movie. Please welcome June Diane Raphael. It was one of my favorite movies. I remember where I was when I saw it. I'm pretty sure I saw this movie at like 12 or 13. What year did it come out?

1992. Yes, I was 12. Surprising. I was 12 and I remember seeing it and thinking, this is a great motion picture. This has a cute boy, I was a soccer player, this has soccer, this for me, checked off all the boxes. And is he what?

And when you're talking about this cute boy, you're talking about Rodney Dangerfield. Of course. Okay, I don't even know where to begin. Is he okay? Wait, Rodney Dangerfield? I know we have a lot more, but is he okay? Is he okay in the movie?

Currently, he has passed. If know we have a lot more. But is he okay? Is he okay in the movie? Currently. He has passed. If that's what you're wondering. Okay, I'm sorry. Of course. Was he okay though, shooting this? Of course he was. He's just like a totally cool dude trying to figure out life with Bess.

Oh, oh, oh. A woman conservatively 60 years younger than him? Right? He is, what, 93 in this movie? I have so many questions. We'll get into them all. Like, also, I want to know, was it a crime for me to have watched this?

Am I on a watch? You are on a watch. If you watch this on your computer, this can be used as evidence against you. It's some sort of trial. I felt dirtier watching this on my computer than things that make a lot of pop-ups appear. We have saved Lady Bugs for a long time because we wanted to have a very special guest to talk about it.

You recognize our next guest. He was in episode 20 of How Did This Get Made. It's been a long time coming. Punisher Warzone, his new special Annihilation is now streaming on Netflix. Please welcome Mr. Pat Noswold! Thank you. Thank you. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Welcome back, Patton. Thank you so much. I had to watch this on iTunes because my Criterion disc was late. Oh

Did you pay for it? Yeah, huge mistake. It's streaming Born up is like, I don't know this seems crazy They're like, it's a lit- BornUp is like, I don't know, this seems crazy. But it got some really positive comments on iTunes. Someone named Roy Moore, like loved it. Like gave it like five stars and just thought it was amazing. Absolutely loved it. Keeping Roy Moore jokes still alive.

Exactly. I love it. Well, I mean, let's just, there's so much to cover. The first being, this is a children's movie, right? Okay, first question I wrote, is this a kids' movie? Who is this for? It's a PG-13 film, but arguably, you would imagine, it's supposed to be like Bad News Bears, except they eliminate all the Bad News Bears part, essentially.

Right, yeah. It's a Bad News Bears if you were more excited about Walter Mathau. Right. And if Walter Mathau was maybe a perv? Which we know Mathau is a perv. I think this movie must have been written for a much younger gentleman. A hundred percent. Yes. Who is actually like going to get married for,

you know, in his forties. Right. I think it was written for, and then the movie sort of makes sense. I mean, as it is now, it is unacceptable. Yeah. He's trying to get a promotion at work when he should literally be retiring.

Yeah. Get done. The only reason for him to need to see his boss is for his boss to give him a watch and say thank you for your service. Good. Enjoy your retirement. You are almost dead. What he should be thinking is doing the calculation of like,

how many good years do I have left? Right. Yeah. And do I have left? Right, yeah. And do I really want to spend like, nine to five clocking in here, and making some tough decisions. Yeah. Does anyone know what Mullins does?

Because I wrote down a couple things. So many questions. All right, so there's like a blueprint of like a nuclear reactor in one scene. There is an architectural model in another. Everywhere are architectural models. Also, Rodney Dangerfield's own office is just covered in fish document. Fish diagrams.

All different kinds of fish. And there's one scene he walks by a topographical board with blinking lights on it that people are monitoring. People... And he is saying that he's the best salesman. Yes. Yes. So what does he say?

How can you be the best salesman of lamps? Of what? Of, oh, like they don't? OK, here's my theory, right? Just from what you just said. It's a company that is building these new, completely nuclear-powered cities, but the cities are poisoning fish,

so Rodney's job is to convince people that the fish are actually not being poisoned, and he is selling people. He's like a reverse Aaron Brockovich, where he goes out and tells people, no, these nuclear weapons are great for your fish. Do not worry about it and that's what he does. So but I mean like if you look at Rodney's office,

what could he be selling? Is he selling fish? There's the reward that he got the silver fish for convincing the most people that the nuclear power was safe for their fish right there, he won. Each of the pictures above it is like, he's holding a giant check, why? Why is he holding a giant check?

And by the way, same building, different. Different thing. Different. What, and then there's a picture of him holding a fish down there. Well, if we. What, what is, what, and then there's a picture of him holding a fish down there. Well, if we're talking about weird offices, we gotta talk about the boss's office. Oh my God.

Which has a Native American chief, tons of stuff. I got three different pictures here. A Boston Terrier stuffed. A sarcophagus. A sarcophagus. There's a sarcophagus there. I, this is what I think. This is what I think.

And just a lot of tropes. I think the director said to props and was like, or the set decorators were just like, just fill the office full of, you know, like, CEO stuff. They went to like the lot, the props room on the lot, and just got props from like the last 60 years of film and just put everything in there. Uh, um, so I know there's a lot to talk about in the film,

but I think we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about the opening that's kind of a, like, parodying Nazism? Yes. Like, I, yeah, like, right? A little bit. I mean, he's going to a self-help seminar that when you first see it, it looks like there's a Nazi, he's speaking in German behind a red, black, and white flag.

It's red, black, and white, but it's Steve Landesberg, who is, they got this beloved Jewish actor to play a goateed Nazi. It was the weirdest. He looks like Lenin. Yeah. He has, like, Lenin's mustache combination. With Judd Hersh as Hitler.

Wait, what? I also couldn't figure out why is he at the self-help seminar. He states on multiple occasions, he is their number one salesman. He's apparently very good at his job. This is so baffling. I'm still struggling to understand

his motivation throughout all of this this because he, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, wants to get the promotion so that he can pay for a wedding. No, so that he can support Bess so that Bess can leave her job. So that Bess doesn't have to work. Yes. Yes. And is it clear that Bess doesn't like her job or she's- I honestly-

She's just always been waiting to- I didn't know Bess worked. Bess at one point says, or she's... She's just always been waiting to... I didn't know Bess worked. Bess at one point says, I'm on my lunch break, I came to see the soccer game, which makes me go, when are they playing soccer? Or what hours does she work because something is off? And also again, not like so Bess can retire.

It's just like, so she can finally be freed from this like career path that she's never wanted. Yes. Yes, he wants her to have a... A career path that has clearly bought her a house and things seem to be okay. And she also doesn't seem like an angry or sad person, which is a little weird.

She doesn't, you don't hear her say she hates her job. Right, right. But the self help meeting that he is going to, part of it is I'm good, or I'm a good person. Then the end of it is like, hey, make sure that your boss is taller than you so you can kiss your boss's ass. So it's a weird self-help thing.

It's like, build you up, but also remember you're a piece of shit. Like, it's like, it's a weird, it's two weird ideas. And the whole opening of the movie could just be removed from everything, like, he's like looking at himself in a mirror, he pulls up to a truck that has like a bumper sticker that says like, you wish on it?

And someone's like, you're an asshole. And he goes, uh, uh, uh, he's like, there's a reason for it, but you're contagious. Then the guy jumps out of the car and never comes back. and he goes, uh, uh, uh, exactly. You could catch up to him immediately. But that's- And also though, well, why does the company want or need a thriving soccer team to sponsor? I mean, that I could never wrap my mind around. Like, what did it prevent? A child soccer team.

Like, not like, it's like a pizza place with like, hey, yeah, we give money and we get out by them uniforms. It's like that level of sobbing. But that's what I didn't understand. So if you're a corporation or a company and there's a local intramural sport that kids play that you wanna sponsor, like great, you'd probably buy the uniforms.

That's great. But why would they want that team to do so well? Well, it appears as though the man whose company it is, his entire sex life is predicated on the team's victory. His wife is basically like, if you want to get laid, like the ladybugs better be the champs. Which is- I guess I ask, why does she need them to be the champs? Right question. But then if you work at

Mullen Industries you're brought into like champagne toasts to celebrate each win which is being written about in the paper but being sparsely attended in real life. Well it's on the it's on the front page of the paper and if you you notice, the film is so lazy, I couldn't help noticing this, it was just a headline over this generic story about baseball, about Cleveland baseball. And the reason that I noticed that is because, and I didn't pause it, they held way too long

on the headline to give you time to go, and then the new pitcher, wait a minute, there's no pitcher, like, and it was the exact, all three headlines were the same story about the Cleveland pitching, it was the weirdest, like they didn't even bother. Like if you're gonna just type up a, and they literally show one paragraph,

so they couldn't have a guy go, the Ladybug soccer team, but no, they just slap it down, and the Cincinnati pitching, because they're like, what the, didn't even try. But it is, you're right slap it down and the Cincinnati pitchings they're like what did didn't even try but it is you're right it's on the front page of that city sports page and it looks like a thriving city he's not like in a small town also like and by the way we're not even talking about the problematic areas yeah yeah these are the broad brush clubs And by the way, we're not even talking about the problematic areas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

These are the broad, broad, broad. This is what I was going to introduce actually, which is it's an independent girls soccer league that is not associated with a school that appears to have girls of ages like 10 or 11 to like 16, 17. Yeah. Because there's a girl who's like, I'm 12, almost 13, I'm looking for cute guys. And we're like, she gives like a singles ad version of herself where cute guys is every other thing.

And she's way too made up for her age. Unless her parents are about to like ship her to Thailand, no parent would let, no parent would let their girl go out. Look, it's really creepy, yeah. Well, she does a great move though when, spoiler alert, when it's revealed that they've been playing with a boy all soccer season. When he takes off his wig, she like straightens up like,

hey, hi. Like, like, like in an attempt to woo him as if he has not been playing with her all season. She's also the one that when the opposing team breaks her nail, she like eats two bottles of two cans of spinach like Popeye and goes insane. She like, she like, it's like the switch is flipped and she goes bananas. Well, we should talk about, we get to the ending of the movie because the ending is insane, but it's the most lean movie ever and I think the reason why it's like an hour and 26 minutes

is because they take out all the parts that you would traditionally see. There's really no love story. Like, that's like, I mean, that's what you're kind of, like, the idea is like, this young boy gets, is dressed up as a girl because he likes the girl on the team, so you would see some at your play there. That really doesn't happen. That would be the case if this movie was, as it probably should have been, about the kid.

Right. This is a kid's movie that is about Rodney Dangerfield. It's just so uncr- I mean, look, I mean, it doesn't even need to be said, but it's so uncomfortable to watch him with children. Oh, yeah. It is just so uncomfortable. Because every area of life they want to ask him about, he should not be giving them any advice about,

or any, not just him, any adult should be talking about that at all. It is never not immediately uncomfortable when those scenes happen. I mean, to have him convince a young, pubescent girl that she is beautiful was violently upsetting to me. No, the scene in which they are trying on clothes

in the dressing room. Oh my God. This is a children's movie, and the joke is, this old dude. Well, the joke is, this old dude. Well the joke is that an older woman thinks that a kid is being fucked in a dressing room and that, and by the way, I will give that actress credit,

when they walk out of the dressing room and she thinks that he has been molesting her, she commits. Oh, so hard. That like, it looked like she got hurt. Like I was like, oh god. I looked it up, that actress died. Really?

That was, we, this was- That was really hard to watch. By the way though, so this movie clearly, I mean this movie hates women, that's clear, but the, every woman who's not a girl, who's a grown adult woman, who Rodney does not want to fuck, is in like a Laura Ashley dress and is fucking insane.

Like every older woman in this scene, in this movie who's not fuckable to Rodney Dangerfield is treated like- You know what, wait, wait, wait, I would argue that every woman is fuckable to Rodney Dangerfield. Like don't you feel that? Like he tries with everyone.

No, and by the way, like the one thing that did occur to me is Jackie is... Jack Hay. Jack Hay. Jackie. Is not, he doesn't actually wanna fuck. No. And does he?

There's a really, really offensive scene in an elevator. Oh yeah. When somebody says like, hey, something with your kids that you're married. And they react like, what? And he- The insinuation is that they're an interracial couple.

And he- I've never seen his eyes bulge that big in a scene. And again- And it's so, like, way- Jackie is a gorgeous woman. 1992. Exactly. And looks at her best. Oh, yeah, yeah.

This scene is so weird. All right, so here we go. Who's getting married? We are. Well, good. 19, like this is- Looks at her best here. Oh yeah, yeah, this scene is so weird. So, who's getting married? We are. Well, good for you. I give you both a lot of credit.

Hold your heads up high. You can't beat true love, have lots of babies. We're all God's children. Wonder what the kids would look like. You know how Jackie, you know that Jackie is crazy in this movie? When they're on the soccer field, she's eating a sub. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From the top down. She's eating it like corn on the cob. She's eating it as sub as it gets, in a way that is patently insane. In my mind, I'm like, that's an actor going, we're going to do like 10 takes of this scene,

and I don't want to really eat it. Like on Two and a Half Men, they always ate pizza with a fork and knife, and I think it was because it just delays you in eating, like you're going, oh, I'm cutting it. Paul, why do you know that? Why do you know on Two and a Half Men, they always ate pizza with a fork and knife?

Also, how long did it take you to notice that they always caught up with you? I noticed because our friend Gilozary watched every episode of Two and a Half Men and taped it for Funny or Die and I joined him like a day and a half into it and he was pointing at it, I was like, look, they're eating the pizza with the forks and knives. He's like, we only see them eat with forks and knives. So it's always stuck out to me that that's an actor. She takes aggressively small by yes

I do not want to establish although I kind of respect that because I've done scenes where I did a scene where I established that I was I ate a big Bite of cake before I said my mind and then I did do like oh And to the point I did scarfing waffles. Yeah. Yeah, so I was like who would be funny if I'm just scarfing down, right? right No, I think she's doing the Lord's work in this movie. I appreciated her. I needed her.

I mean, and look, she's put in some uncomfortable positions and she comes out pretty good. This movie is, this movie is a children's sex comedy that's what this movie is there is a scene in which the boy sees the girl oh god that is the fucking perverts you watched it just like I did now we we're going to talk about it. The young boy sees the young girl, and then a fantasy sequence happens,

and she's in her underwear. And it is a crime, I think, at that point, to be watching. By the way, I looked up on IMDB. She was 16 when she shot that. So they're making a 16-year-old girl do this weird soft core, cinematic, like fantasy scene. It was the creepiest.

Also because- It's so bizarre and then also that the young boy is watching it, it's fantasizing like his wedding to her, to the Everly brothers. Which is also like for kid movie, it's like, it doesn't feel like, I don't know, I don't feel like the 14 year old's like,

oh, the Everly Brothers is really encapsulating how I feel about this young girl. There's something about it that is like... I will fast forward it because I don't want to even be gratuitous in playing that. But I can play the rest on mute here, you can just see that. They're always running.

They're always running in the fantasy. Running onto a private jet plane. Running, running. Running into some private jet plane. Running, running. Running into some sculpture park. Although I remember, because I was doing stand-up at that time, so many guys owned suits just like that. There was so many stands with that New Jack City suit shit going on.

Their wedding, eating two burgers on the spot. What is this, a Game of Thrones? Look at that. And by the way, it says, our wedding at the top. By the way, all of them have red carpets as well. Every fantasy, they're on a red carpet. He's become a multimillionaire in his fantasy too. And they're not throwing rice, they're throwing yellow flowers.

I don't know what's happening there. Oh, it is, yeah, creepy. If the movie was told from kids' point of view, it's like, if I watched Fast Times and saw the Phoebe Cates taking her top off scene, I would not feel nearly as creeped out, even though it is also a girl in high school, as this movie makes you feel,

because to me, this movie is a point of view of adults. Is those, you're seeing adults as the characters in this movie, so it, I don't know, it just, this movie made me feel real gross. I... I also think there's something odd about his relationship with Rodney, and I don't know if it's the cutie play Matthew,

Jonathan Brandis, or Brandis. He, like, gets instantly mad with him. He's like, he's like, I got an idea. And then Rodney Dangerfield looks at him bug-eyed crazy. He's like, no got an idea and then Rodney Dangerfield looks at him bug-eyed crazy. He's like no Wow, where does that anger come from and he explodes a couple of times Yeah, with an anger that feels like things have gone on in the past with these two Yeah, I get why when he gave him a BB gun. He gave him a sweatshirt with a bullseye in the back I was surprised. I thought we were gonna find out more

about his missing father or whatever was the story behind any and all of this, but we never get there. Well, that's the strange thing. Because we're not finding out about the kids. And that's the strange thing about Matthew's speech to him at the end when he says, you know, you've worked so hard at turning this team around. You've done so much.

You put so much into it. And I thought, no, he hasn't. He's enlisted you. Yeah. He slapped a wig on your head, and that was it. And that's what happened. A wig was worn. And you should be saying, you've cheated.

You've successfully gotten away with cheating. Not coaching me. The moral of this movie is terrible. I mean. Well, OK, not only is the, it's not just that the moral is that cheating is good. The moral is that, because it's, Ronny Dangerfieldfield is this you're supposed to believe that the end he's this good-hearted guy It doesn't matter if you win if you become a bad person and then his boss is this horrible snub

But at the end he's in league with his evil boss and their best friends and they're doing even worse things now Like that's the whole lesson is just I just give in give in to the evil guys. It'll be fine. It's a movie that is I believe the protagonists are the villains. Like I believe you're supposed to you're rooting for someone who is a liar and who is like only rewarded continuously for the lie. Right. And so I think he's then the villain. Well, look, the thing I was really offended by with the ending, too, as a former soccer player who played on the travel team, not to brag...

What position? ...Brockle Center Flames, I played a forward... Great. ...but soccer was my life. The fact that when they were playing the Flames in the last big game, that they put boys in wigs in those scenes

was to me, unacceptable. I saw that too. So they're boys in wigs pretending. All of the soccer players who are doing the big tricks and shots and all of that stuff. They're all boys with wigs on. Yeah. That like...

You can see that like, and it's not supposed, they're not supposed to be boys in wigs. They're supposed to be girls. No, no, no. They're just supposed to be girls. And... That infuriated me. And there's another one who has red hair who does like a big... Yeah.

Like the one that does the bicycle kick? Yeah. Well, I mean, that's just like, yeah, that's just bad. I mean, this movie is not really supporting female sports at all. But why wouldn't they? I mean, there are plenty, there were plenty of soccer players who could do all that stuff. I was one of those. Are you upset that you didn't get the call?

I would have loved to have done it. I would have loved to have done it. I would have loved to have been offered those roles. I was also offended in the final game against the flames where Jack Hay takes the African American player who they've never focused on for the whole movie. And she basically makes her angry and unlocks some kind of African-American rage.

And then this girl runs down the field to the worst, like, bad white dude rap music and just shoves people out of the way and then scores a goal. And everyone's like, oh, good. Like, it was so, like, a white dude's version of, oh, this is how black athletes are. It's like, no, it's not. And you've never given this character the time of day. At the very beginning of the film, they go, oh, she was the one good player.

Then they never show her doing anything good, and then they just have her for that one scene where she just pummels people until she gets a goal. Well, I mean, again, if it was a movie, like a Bad News Bears, you'd see some sort of training montage, they never seemingly get better or do anything, and at the end, they only win by cheating. Like when they break that girl's nails,

she's like, I'm just gonna start pushing, like pushing people. Every move that they do is illegal. It's like, so they win, but at what cost? Like, they're not playing soccer. They're not a better team. They're just angry and vicious. Like, they're really, like, it's so bizarre that that's the moral of the story.

It's like, win by cheating, and then at the end, the coach gets rewarded. He does get the job. Now, instead of any girls, he's replaced all the girls with young boys, and now they're on a softball team. All right, good. Go. Here we go. Yeah, I guess. Oh, my gosh.

Go, sports? Ha-ha-ha. Um, well, there's, uh, again, there's so many things. Like, I mean... Why does the mother of the main girl, um, the romantic lead girl... Yes, the rich, the classy lady. Mullins, Mullins...

Lady Mullins. Yeah, Lady Mullins. Yeah, Lady Mullins. Why does Lady Mullins make all the girls skinny dip on the team? Yeah. Why does that happen? And why isn't she being rewarded, I mean, reported, arrested,

and put in prison for doing that? And also, why are all the other girls, the boy is calling Roddy going, oh my god, he's going skin-dipping, and the girls are searching for him like this wolf pack, like get your clothes off and get in the pool with us. It was this weird, like what? Any group of girls that age would go,

hey, weird old lady, we're not going to jump in the pool naked, I don't know what you're doing here. But no, they're determined that she gets in the, oh, so creepy. And then Rodney has to go save the day, and he dresses up as a woman. Right. And he's also in a Laura Ashley dress with a veil,

and he's like, ooh, my daughter. And to which- Which sounds exactly like himself Mother's mother They like and then and then when he leaves lady Mullins goes like Like like what have you ever looked at a human being like? Also By the way that that I just realized, the thing in the dressing room

where the woman thinks that he's a child molester, they go to that well a couple of times in the movie. Oh, oh, yeah. A number of times. They go back to that same joke, as you said, in a kids' movie. It's a children's movie. Yeah, and they do it with the bartender, and then there's another time where they do it with him.

And here's what's so interesting about that joke, is that I think what's most disturbing to me is that I think the reason why they feel they could get away with it is that the audience knows it's a boy. And that to me was even more disturbing. Yeah, way more disturbing. That like we should laugh at this because it's a young boy

and not really a girl. Or it's so much creepier if it's a young boy and not really a girl or it's so much creepier Well, it's also like he like when he gets kicked out of the bar like there's no time to explain like he's like Uh, like what does he say the bartender is immediately? Like like thrown out of the bar like it's just like he lets it hang like yeah I was trying to do a bully and then she got mad because I dressed up her son like a girl and tried to do him or something and tried to play with him and then he throws him out the bartender by the way is the guy from far out space nuts which I loved

growing up he was like lunch not launch. And then he throws Rodney out, and Rodney then stands, there's this weird shot where Rodney just kind of stands alone on the street and kind of talk, does he talk to a mailboxer? It's like he gives, it's like the one part of the movie where they go, we gotta have a couple of Rodney lines, oh shit, we don't have anyone for him to say it to. So he's just gonna say it to this lamppost.

It's like, did he just suffer a stroke? Who's he talking to? I will say that Rodney, I think, is the best performance of all time when he is asking for the race. I felt bad for him. I'm like, oh, oh, this man, he's so sad, he's so small. And I, you know, anyway, I think that,

and I've been really, you know, I think that, and you know I've been really, uh, and, you know, I think that, uh, I hate it. I hate it. And you know, when I was trying to get married, and, uh, it's like, it makes me, like, I, I felt for him. I was like, oh, oh. I felt nothing for him. He's fucking disgusting. He's so fucking gross. I hate him.

Wait, let me ask you this though, June, because I did feel that Rodney gave a very impassioned speech to the girls that they're women. They got the vote. Oh, can we play that scene here? You women, you got the vote. You're gonna burn your bras when you get them. Oh, this is, yeah. This is all on our...

I do like how all the advice scenes to kids include jokes that only people in their 60s will get. Yes! Like he'll throw in some, you know, it's all like Sputnik's opening the planet right now. Oh, like a dog. What do you think I am, Wendell Willkie? Hey, what the...

Oh my God. I did think at one point, there was one scene between Martha and Kimberly, the main girl, where I thought, oh, I think she is falling in love with Martha. And that, I didn't remember this movie, but what an interesting twist that she is a lesbian. And we're gonna see that play out.

Oh, well, there's that classic farce sequence where the boy has to juggle both dressing up as the girl character so that he can hang out with the girl and watch videos but then talk to his mom as the boy and he would run in and out of doors and... But it's weird because I guess if you're writing this movie you would say that the girl and the boy have a relationship But she doesn't know that he's Martha right like that would never right because it would be more interesting if He's trying to have a date and then has to like put it like but they kind of reverse engineered it

So it's like he's pretending to be Martha to her, but they don't really even have a connection It's like there's no stakes in that scene. Yeah, that scene made me so sad because it's a shitty scene. It's not well done, but Jonathan does amazing work doing the physical up and down the stairs. Like, he broke his ass for a shitty scene. Like, there's nothing more depressing. It's like, he really worked that stuff out,

and the scene just, and you're right, they didn't think out why he was doing it. Why would he bother doing that? And also, I will just argue, yes, I agree, he works hard in that scene, but I would love to have seen maybe 25% of that in his portrayal of Martha, which just seems like Jonathan in a way.

He never changed his voice. And she knows him from school. Multiple times she interacts with the boy. I thought that that was a choice that he made. That the actor, no, the actor Jonathan made that was, you know, how could this character know how to act? Like he's just going to be himself because he doesn't know how to do this character. I mean, it's's well, I guess.

By the way, this scene, there are so many T-shirts hanging up on hangers. Oh, well, let's play the women's lip scene. This is the dressing room tent. For what? But why are they? For what? By the way, it looks like none of the outfits for the characters in the movie. This is on the field. Yes. This is like right off the field. the characters in the movie. This is on the field. Yes. This is like right on the field.

Whose shirts are these? Quick question. Whose shirts are these? Um, here we go. Martha is Matthew. What? Oh my God! What?

I mean, a boy? Oh boy! Oh man, could you believe that? That's right. Martha is Matthew. And I'm showing you this for one reason you don't need Martha anymore You don't need a boy to help you win your women. You don't need anyone you liberated. You got the boat You can burn your bras

What do you get? He looks so tired right there look at that look. Look how tired he looks. That right there in that frame is a man who's like, have I died yet? Because I think I may have. By the way. And this is hell. This is a man who also made like five more movies after this. Five more, yeah. That is everything.

Here is an interesting little side fact. So originally, the actor that was supposed to play this part was Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh! Wait, play what part? We're supposed to play Rodney Dangerfield's part? Jonathan Brand is his part. It was a year before Gilbert Grape.

And basically, in this book that Sidney Fury wrote about the movie or about his career. Who's the director of this movie. Yes. Who is a... How did this get made royalty? He was fired off of Jazz Singer and also fired from Superman 4. Um... So, he said, keeping in mind that this character would have to dress up

as a female soccer player and receive illicit laughs as a result, Fury remembers smiling, DiCaprio, he was too beautiful. He dressed up like a girl with a wig and everything and he looked so convincing that it just killed the joke. Jonathan Brandis is cast because he looked funny in drag. Boom.

Yeah, fair enough. Okay. Imagine if that was on DiCaprio's resume. What, did you see Ladybug? It's like Gilbert Grape was such a, it's like Growing on DiCaprio's resume. Like, what, did you see ladybugs? Like, Gilbert Grape was such a, it's like Growing Pains, Gilbert Grape. But you're like, Growing Pains, ladybugs. Wow.

My favorite, one of my favorite late in the movie reveals in the farce running back and forth, changing from Martha to Matthew, blah, blah, blah, is in their house, there is a seven-foot by seven-foot painting of a barn... Yes. ...that is so big. It's so crazy to think that in this very small... Do you have this?

I think I might as well. But this... When you have this? I think I might have the... But this... When I saw this, I stopped the movie. And it, like... I had to, like, try and get perspective. Yes! Look at... Oh, my God. It looks as if... Look at how big that is!

It looks as if, like, there was something they couldn't cover over in props, and they're like, just bring in the big picture. It looks like a backdrop for a theatrical production that takes place on a farm. You know what I mean? Like it was a prop that they couldn't use in the boss's office. Like put it in there. If you cropped, if you cropped it very just on the corner you'd like, are they in the Old West? Because the two kids are dwarfed by this painting. You could easily take five Jonathan Brandises and that would be how long it would be.

But somebody just cropped like right here. And it's like a different movie. It's a remake of Old Yeller. It's like Little House on the Prairie starring Jonathan Brandeis. Well, at least... This is one of my favorite things in the whole movie. This, by the way, this could be a still from Twin Peaks. Like that is like the best, that's the best frame of this movie. My favorite part of this movie was Rodney Dangerfield singing.

The musical interlude of great balls of fire. You know exactly where that came from. Well he did, he sang Twist and Shout in Back to School, we gotta do that again. But they do not work it in organically at all. It has nothing to do. Like this is how it just pops up, it's like. You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain.

Where is his voice coming from? Too much love drives a man insane. You broke my will, what a thrill. Nothing good in this gracious great ball of fire. I chew my nails and I twiddle my balls. I feel nervous, but it's Joe is fun. Come on, baby, you're driving me crazy. Goodness gracious, great balls of fire.

Like, that is the most reckless driving. Yeah. Like, he's yanking the wheel like crazy. He's not looking at the road. His car is full of children. Yeah. Walter Mathau drives a bunch of unbelted kids in a convertible drunk in Bad News Bears and this is more dangerous than that. And he is singing. It's one of those rare instances in a non-musical film where someone's singing, like, they're doing a full rendition,

and these kids are listening to it. Like, you just listen. He is right there. He is like, yep. There's also a scene near the end. I think it's near right before the final game where they're wondering, where's Matthew? And behind Rodney and Jack A are these two guys in suits, and one of them has sunglasses on,

and they are the creepiest-looking... They were like extras. I can't remember the specific scene, but if you know to look for them, this one guy, he has this weird kind of John Waters pencil-thin mustache and this kind of weird comb over, and he's, like, skinny in a suit, and there's a guy with him in sunglasses,

and they look like... I guess they're supposed to be parents watching the game, but they look like they're there to assassinate somebody. It's the creepiest, weirdest... I mean, there were several times watching this movie where my mind would wander. This scene is one of them in the car,

and I would just think like, wow, they had to be in a small space with Rodney Danger. Like, that sucks. Well, again, some facts from the book that Sidney Fury wrote. He said, um, Dangerfield arrived in Colorado with a suitcase full of spatulas, forks, and knives,

and would take all the food from the craft table and Tupperware containers home every night. Oh! That's... that's very sad. I mean, he was not broke. He was not a broke man. Something has just occurred to me now that I am shocked I did not notice

during the course of the movie. What's up? The kid calls Rodney, whose name is Chester Lee, calls him Chesterfield. Well apparently that was because... Is that because of Dangerfield? No he thought it would be funny to do that. The kid came up with that, Jonathan, and then insisted that be in the movie like Chesterfield. Get it? Like I guess?

That did not, shame on me, it did not occur to me at all that he was giving him the last syllable of his actual last name, but it was, that's really weird. To have done that repeatedly is very bizarre. Well, not to let the audience think to it. Is it sad that all I thought of when you told him about the spatulas and the forks was like, wait a minute, you can, oh, that's pre-2000, yeah, 9-11, yeah, you can actually fly with, that was the first thing I thought of.

How did he get those, oh, wait a minute, no, 9-11 had to happen, okay, yeah, he can do that. Yeah. No, thanks a lot TSA. Yeah bring my spatula The poster for a second can you lower that yeah Okay So the poster that we're looking at is the young lady in the film Vanessa Shaw Yeah, and Jonathan is behind her, and he is holding two soccer balls in front of her breast, and then Dangerfield's kind of over her other shoulder

going like, uh-huh. Peek-a-boo. Peek-a-boo. And her mouth is open. The whole thing is just, I mean, again, I love this movie as a child. I remember seeing it and thinking, like, thank you. And it says here, it says, a comedy with balls.

That is the tagline. Kids, get in the car. You cannot wait to see this. It's gonna be great. One of the reasons why Dangerfield loved the director was because he shot with three cameras and he didn't waste Dangerfield's time. And when asked why ladybugs,

Fury said, repeating the question backwards, why not? It was something to do. One has to keep on working. It was something to do? Something to do. It was something to do. One has to keep working.

And believe me, it was one of the- Did you just pass the hours? Yeah, and that- But literally that sentence could fit perfectly on a suicide note. Just, hey, I have something to do. I don't know how to tell you. Something to do.

Something to do. Wow. He was like the paycheck was great and anything to get me on set with a crew. So that was it. Oh my god. This is so grim. No, this is so grimsville.

This movie is- By the way, do you want to know the tag? It has one of the best taglines, but we have a comedy with balls. Here's the other one. I'd like to cover up the poster again. Okay, yeah, it's creepy. Here's the other tagline. He's coach, not first class.

Which doesn't make any sense. Which doesn't make any sense. Wow. Got a whiplash listening to that. That's wild. He's coach, not first class. Which by the way would be great if he was an airline steward or something. Here's my impression of the room where they were thinking up tag lines for the movie.

Ready? He's coach, first class. It's five. Fine. first class it's five fine yeah it's five I gotta go I got it oh Jesus fine close enough and then the director's like can you believe they're giving me money to have a room for this shit and you guys you guys are that one thing at the end where he goes I don't think he ever in any of his movie goes hey, I finally got some respect Freeze frame hold for 39 minutes Yeah Not only by the way not only they freeze frame something happens with the camera

Where it does this weird dip and it cuts the top of his head off like there was no way to do like I always feel like at that point Ron is like that's the only one I'm doing forget it like no the camera like Swirl dropped the acorn on the guy and he dropped it. I don't care, I'm going back to my trailer. Where's my spatulas? Pack up all the food, I'm outta here. Oh god, are you kidding? Boy, this thing was rough.

Hey, let me tell you something, this movie was no bargain. This movie was more of a dog that would shed, right? All right, well obviously we had some opinions here, but let's come to you guys. Let's see what you have to think. Yeah. All right, I know you have a lot of things to say. All right, sir, you've had your say a lot of times in the show.

Sir, what's your name? And just give me your question. I don't have a fun thing to ask. My name's Tim, and a couple of things. The Chesterfield thing that was a coincidence he was doing that to his friends before he was even cast in the movie he was calling them like Manzooka's field and sheer he was yeah that's very precious it's on it's on IMDB and then it's just a coincidence

that he just that was his fun nickname wow for people wow so it was destiny Tim the great people at IMAX have given us a lot of free swag so you will get some. Oh now the hands go up. Oh wait. I want a beer koozie. Free IMAX garbage? Don't mind if I do. My name's Todd. Girls with balls. Okay. We didn't talk about the uncomfortable racial stuff in this movie. There's a lot of, yeah, there's a few moments. Like one where Jack A says,

black people are always better at sports. He goes, black people better at sports. Well, there's also a moment where she says, like her job is threatened if he doesn't get the promotion and she says immediately That she's gonna have to go on welfare right The thing that I noticed was there's a scene where they refer to the the goalie who is Asian they say oh She turned into the Great Wall. Yeah

goalie the goalie the goalie whose name was chew and I feel feel like they had a joke and they worked backwards. Like, if you say Chew a lot, we can say God bless you. Got it. All right, then they named her Chew, like, because they do do that as well. Yeah, there's a couple of things there. Well, thank you so much. I'll go get some ice.

No, I mean, like, I think it's fair to say this movie is problematic on every single level. Every level it could be. Oh, it's also, remember you mentioned earlier how tired Rodney looks? The movie gets tired as it goes along to the point where there was a really weird scene that I'm like, is this a brilliant joke? Or are they acknowledging how exhausted they are? The Wienermobile shows up on the field and they cut to Jack A.

And Rodney goes, are you going to say anything? And he goes, we should just go home. Like he doesn't, he just gives up. Like it was like the weirdest, like are they commenting on that? We've all just, like you don't need to watch this movie and we've all given up. You got it, you got it all.

Literally there's a car that looks like a dick and even Ronnie's like, I don't care, I got nothing to say. I don't know what to say. It's also like every time he, every time he goes to kiss his fiance in the movie, doesn't it look like he, like, collapses onto her. Like, there were several points it looked like

she's just supporting his body weight. Or as if he maybe has never kissed anyone. Like, when he shows up at her house with flowers, my initial impulse was that he was her father. Sure, sure. And he puts his arm or his hand over her eyes and says, guess who? And I was like, oh, I don't know where this is going.

And I don't like it. I want to see prequel. How did they meet? What's their mute cue? But you know, there's something funny about this movie that you just said, like the movie, like I guess in the other films that he's been in, like his jokes would surround like a general plot. And in, like, his jokes would surround, like, a general plot.

And I feel like in this one, it was like, every time he's on screen, it's just one-liners, and people have to pick how they react to it. Will I laugh at it like you're telling me a joke? Will I be offended? Like, there's like, he's never really having a conversation with anyone. He's just basically saying one-liners to them.

Well, it did feel like Jack A at one point has a line where she says to him, when you're hurting, I'm hurting too. As if to tell the audience, like, despite what you see here, someone likes him in this movie. Despite everything you're witnessing, I'm going to tell you that I like this man. This movie also would have made total sense if the last scene had been him, like, in a mental institution, having imagined the entirety of the movie.

You know, like if this was... He has a ladybug on his fingertip. He's like, yeah, yeah. There you go. That's it. That's the movie. Then I'd be like, oh, I get it now. That's why it's so weirdly sexual. That's why it's so weirdly bizarre. That's why it's so weirdly bizarre.

He made the whole thing up in his head. Was there ever a version of this movie where he put on a wig and pretended to be a girl? Like, well, I guess he does. He did? Yeah, I guess he does. He did that. Yeah, I guess you're right.

Your name, your title of the movie, and your question. My name is Katie. I went and titled this Dear God Think of the Children. Because there's also a moment where, I guess, because he needs the promotion to get married to her finally, so she doesn't have to work anymore. That's the big problem with the movie, a woman working. And then, like, they're house shopping, I guess,

because of that. Oh, this is the worst joke. Yeah, well, not even the jokes. There's a moment that, like, she sees the good in the neighborhood and you see, like, she's like, look at this neighborhood, it's so safe. And you see a guy riding his bike with a baby in the back. Neither one of them have a helmet on. And like, the sun is beating down on that child.

I was like, oh, no. Oh, save them. Well, I would say the joke is even more problematic. Oh, God, that joke. He makes a joke that the baby's in the back of the seat and for some way that's gonna like make him gay. Because he's staring at his father's ass. He's gonna grow up and marry some guy named Kenny. Ralph Ferg.

Thank you. And that that's the joke. And that's not possible, right? What do you mean? Like that's just not possible. Oh no, if you stare at a butt long enough. Oh god, that's what I thought. Oh yeah yeah, no it'll imprint on you. Yeah, June that's where gay people come from. They put them on a gay bike when they're babies. It's like they ride them around. Mike Pence will tell you all about this. You ride around and you look at man ass. It's like they were a child.

Yeah. It's like Bella's baby. Right, right. It imprints. It's a Twilight joke. So like when gay men say like, I've known since I was like very little, like I've never not known it since that moment.

They learned it on a bike, staring at their dad's butt. It's like when a baby duck imprints on a mailbox. Like you have to be careful what your baby looks at. Or a female box. Or a female box, exactly. Oh, nicely done. There you go.

Wow. Uh, sir, your name, your title of the film, and your question. My name is Eric. The title would be A Dateline Special Investigation. And my question is, he has an interaction. I would love it if the guy from To Catch a Predator just entered.

And I was like, I'm shutting this movie down. How would you like me to play on your soccer team? and the Predator just entered. And I was like, I'm shutting this movie down. How would you like me to play on your soccer team? I bet you thought you were coming here to coach a girl's soccer team. Hey, hey, oh hey, oh hey, oh hey, oh hey. I just got a case of Zima and a couple of soccer balls. What do you mean? I just got a case of Zima and a couple of soccer balls.

I just got a case of Zima and a couple of soccer balls. There's a, he has an interaction with this woman coach who comes up to him and immediately hates him more than I've ever seen two people hate each other for no reason. What is the backstory for that? She just rages against him so hard. Hmm. It's an interesting question.

I mean, I think she just stares at the optics of it all, and I thought she had an appropriate reaction. I thought, this is what I thought. What was heartbreaking to me was, as much as I wanted our beloved ladybugs to win, I did not want to reward any of their reprehensible parents. All of the adults in this movie are horrid people. Everybody is reprehensible on multiple levels.

And so any victory was a victory, yes, for the kids, but for the adults in general in a way that I was like, I don't want them to win. I don't want Mullins to succeed. I want him to be, and with him and his wife having martinis on the sideline, I couldn't fucking figure out up from down. I hated it.

I hated them all. They're horrible to their daughter. They're horrible to everybody. In a way that I was like, what, why? If this is a movie about the kids triumphing over the parents, great, but it's not. It's a movie about the adults. The parents.

Your name, your title, and your question. Okay, my name is Deb. Jason took, I was going to say to catch a predator, so I'm going to change it to coach a predator. Oh, nice. Smart. Thank you. Smart.

I have two comments. Great punch up. One is that, so we talked about, okay, black people are good at sports, but I wanted to mention the specific sports that Rodney said they're not good at, which was hockey, water polo, and fox hunting. Because those are things. I also wanted to mention that the way that they got the girl who was the goalie to kick the ball was by putting

Butterfly stickers on it Yeah, cuz like that's the only way to make girls interested in sports like shiny stickers I forgot that I wrote that down going that's odd cuz I didn't know if that's how she envisioned it Like she's like saw that and that just seemed yeah, that was a that's a very well good points Here's your IMAX notebook. So don't forget to write down your big dreams in there. The IMAX notebook is seven feet tall, it's as big as that portrait in the movie. Now we do have a special guest here tonight,

and I don't know how to put her on the spot, but you played Penny in the movie, right? Right? So, come on, go. Come on. There it is. Welcome, how are you? I'm great, thank you.

So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. detail about everything. Well you have like, you have this, I think one of the crazy, like a crazy end beat which

is like you take down your hair and then you become awesome. Like where it's like, it's like that, you know, because the cliche is like, oh, it's the nerdy girl. And then when she lets down her hair, then all the guys think she's attractive. But here you take down your hair and then you become like awesome at soccer. Which is interesting.

How, like, just talk to me, anything at all. I would keep you here for hours. But yeah. Well, this is a magical experience in my life. So you guys are like poking holes in all the things that were amazing. But then as I got older, of course, I saw it as an adult. Yeah.

And then it was really weird to be in it. What was your experience with Rodney like? Was he like on set a lot? I feel like he wasn't on set a lot. That's my opinion of it, but... I would say I had a very interesting experience because I had to go privately into his motor home... Oh, cool....to rehearse my scene. very interesting experience, because I had to go privately into his motor home

to rehearse my scene. And in retrospect, that's very odd. Yeah. Did you steal a spatula? They were hanging from every corner. Wow, that's so, I mean, but it is, it's amazing. Cause I imagine on the set, it's probably the most fun. It's like you're surrounded by people your own age, you get to have fun, it's like cute boy Jonathan Brandes,

and it's all good times, playing soccer, but then Dangerfield too. Did you know of Dangerfield? Were you like, oh, this is the guy from Caddyshack, or that was even above you? Oh no, I loved his movies before. My mom let me watch everything, so I was like, oh, Rodney Dangerfield,

and then I got there and it was a little weird. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you have any questions? Yeah, I do. I do. I do. I do. I do.

I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do.

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I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. What overall were his vibes? Like irritated to be there, nervous for his health? I was 13 when I shot this movie. Understood. Retrospective. You weren't checking in. It was like 30 years ago at this point. The vibe was very sweaty. That's all I remember as a kid.

He just always had this sweat ring right here and it was very awkward awkward. And, you know, he came in, he came out, and he did his thing. I just hung out with all the kids. Gotcha. Yeah. And was there more to the movie? Like, was there ever, like, a training? Like, you actually, you have, you're one of the few characters that actually does,

like, he talks to you and says, like, hey, we should go on a date. And you go, you know, I'm like... Paul, Paul, I'm gonna advise you to not do, to not do exactly what you're doing. Even to a grown woman, it doesn't, it doesn't come off good. But like, but it's one of the few characters

that actually I think has like a little bit of a middle, like, you know, was there more ever, did they just cut it down to that? Well, all the kids kind of had the same amount of scenes than when I got hired, they added that one. Oh, nice. Yeah, so it was awesome, but also kind of out of context and weird in retrospect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Well, all right, anyone No, this is though. It's amazing that you were here. Thank you for coming. And yeah, all right go give her a hand

Good job One more question, one more question. Hi, how are you? Your name, your title, and your question. Seth, coed naked ladybugs. Okay. Was his promotion becoming coach of the softball team? Is that the big, like, is that what the sales elevation,

like is that? Well it seems like he is now, he is, he has gotten that promotion, but he's out of the office all the time coaching, yeah. Men, a full team of young teenage boys in a women's softball leagues with the boss's approval. And he seemingly has no talent as a coach. So he's coaching the girls' softball team.

But can we assume it started out as a bunch of girls playing softball that he then replaced with boys in wigs. Where is the hidden murder movie where he got rid of like, where did all those girls go? Why are none of the parents going, well that's not not my daughter these are these weird drifters wearing wigs what the hell happened where do where do all these girls go during the game does he think I'm off Morgan Freeman there's a very good wait I just really there's a very creepy David Lynch film going on at the end there's a I think there's an

argument to be made because Mullins says to him, well, your year round soccer, uh, sports program has been a big hit that you've introduced. Blah, blah, blah, right? So that means at some point Rodney went to his boss and said, hey, you know how last year I triumphed with the ladybugs playing girls soccer and got the girls to realize that they were strong, powerful women, they have the vote, etc. Okay, let's do that in all girls sports, but let's do it with the kid, the boy, with the whole team. Let's get rid of all the girls and just do the thing that was terrible that I did the whole way. Let's be real bad. And arguably...

And also, Kevin, then are these boys' parents going to these games and watching their boys in wigs and everyone's like, everyone be cool, all right, we're going to win a trophy. Everyone's a part of a giant lie. Yeah, what the hell is this is? We're getting into Dealey Plaza levels of conspiracy here, guys. And it's also like, what's in it for these boys, too? It's like, do they wanna play against, do they wanna play against girls?

And I guess beat them? If that's the idea, like, what did they, what are they getting out of it? And do they have to go skinny dipping? Oh, man. Well, obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

All right. Who out there has a, okay. Oh great. You got, come on up. All right. You have your hand raised. That's great. I'll take the first person with their hand raise. That's the way it works. And if I had one, I might have a second opinion. No, it's not four, three, one, or two,

just another five star Amazon review, but maybe that's me. And I'm telling the truth, oh, can't you see? But I'm still guilty and ashamed, so I hide behind my Amazon username to give my second opinion Awesome! What's your name, sir? Brian Brian, welcome. Thank you, Brian. Brian, you can get this great book by Scott C. called The Great Showdowns of Return.

We love Scott C. That was a great one. Great work! Alright. Great job, great job. Alright. There are 274 reviews of Ladybugs. 73% are five-star reviews. So we had a lot to pick from. This one is by Miroi Tuttle. The title is, The Actors Performed Very Well.

It's written as this, it says, the filming was excellent, the ending not perfect, but I like it very much. If I had, I must find someone like the hero. I think I really fell in love with this movie. I'll watch it a few times. The plot is torturous. I watch this movie with my father, five stars.

I love it. I love it. I watch this movie with my father. I love it. I watch this movie with my father. I love it. I watch this movie with my father. I watch this movie with my father.

I watch this movie with my father. There's a disturbing trend of parents watching this movie with their children going, no, no, no, no. It's like, don't watch it with your kids. This one is, okay, well, this one is, this is from Nate E. Boe, and it's the digital ladybugs revolution. This was written in 2004. Ladybugs should be made available

in every blockbuster and on DVD. I may start a petition. Do yourself a favor and sign my petition. The end, five stars. Sign a petition that he might start. Yes. Okay get on board With it. Wasn't it the case though that blockbuster didn't stock porn Here is This is another one. This is they're all pretty short. This one replaces the word wife with Wi-Fi

short this one replaces the word wife with Wi-Fi and it says, danger field is superb I can't have my Wi-Fi watching this movie she was laughing so hysterically I was concerned love it love all movies five stars oh I envy him so much. I love all movies. That's a great world he lives in. By the way, every movie is amazing. I'll never be that happy. I would argue that is not a misspelling. That is a man who is in love with his Wi-Fi.

By the way, that's the way I viewed this movie. As like a 12 year old, 13 year old who was just like, I love movies. Like we're gonna watch a movie, I love it. Put it on. I love movies. Love movies. This one's a little bit weird. Do you still love this movie?

No, by the way, I'm laughing throughout this entire night and you know, we're all having fun here. I was deeply disturbed by that. Like I'm laughing about the pedophile, but like I'm actually very uncomfortable. This one is, this last one here, laughing about the pedophile, but, like, I'm actually very uncomfortable. Um, this one is, this last one here, or second to last one,

is called, uh, A Good Family Movie. We enjoyed this movie. Unlike some Rodney Dangerfield movies, the whole family can watch this one. Yes, there's some innuendo and one upskirt shot, but it's pretty family friendly. And... You definitely see, like, lips. I just don't understand why you could put those two things

in one sentence. Like, it's a family movie. Yes, there's some innuendo. Yes, you see labia majora, but you don't see labia minora, so it is fine. And he ends the review by saying it gave us a lot of laughs, and it moved our hearts. Um...

The, um... And sometimes when they're too good, we just do a, um, a third opinion, which is, oh, uh, this is a five-star review, but here's how it ends. This movie taught me a valuable lesson. Just because I saw it as a kid doesn't make it decent. Five stars.

Five stars. Five stars. That is mixed messaging. I think he's giving five stars for the lesson he learned. Yeah. I'm hoping. I learned a valuable lesson. Yeah, exactly.

Well, is there anything that we haven't talked about that, we didn't talk about the Tommy Lasorda cameo as Coach Canole? Oh, and then the, and Blake Clark as the weird Vietnam vet guy with flashbacks and screaming at children and abusing them and. Get down! Like makes them get down and like yeah. I also love that when they were starting to do well

and Martha was coaching them on the field during games, she would just have them shout out to the person they were going to pass the ball to. Look at them, point at them, scream their name, and then kick the ball that way. Oh, I also was confused when, after the first time Matthew plays as Martha, Rodney, after the game, refers to all the stuff

that we didn't see happen. Like, hey, you don't slap a girl's ass and call her hot stuff out there. That didn't stop the rest of the finger. Yeah, he does all this, he refers to all this stuff that would have stopped any game, but it's just like these little passing jokes. And they just go, man. All of which would have been more interesting to have watched.

Yeah, exactly, yeah. Here's some other funny jokes that happened in that last scene. He definitely... We didn't bother to film. Rodney has enough, like... Remember when that eagle carried off the ball? Boy, that was amazing. How about that?

And what about that go-kart chase we all got into? Boy, that was some laughs. Well, I'm gonna sit here on this couch. Boy, my feet hurt. And like pull out, again, pull out, and he's just alone in a mental institution. Like he does enough asides to no one that he might be Bruce Willis in Sixth Sense. He might not exist in the movie.

He might be a ghost wandering through the movie. I wouldn't be surprised if Jack A was the coach of this team. I pulled one little thing here, which I don't know why it made me laugh, but it did. So when Rodney leaves his house that he lives in with his current girlfriend, there's a guy playing frisbee right out and under this power line. And there was something, where is it? I think it's like, there's one whole scene where he's by himself here. Yeah, there it is.

It's just a guy playing frisbee to no one in under a power line. Like, or under a power tower. It's like- Again, I'm sorry. God, that looks like a shot from a David Lynch film. I mean, like, God. Look at that.

It's just like through the silhouette. Wow. By the way, that's a Lolita shot. Yeah. That's a movie that I'm interested in. Yeah. You know, like, what's up with this? Like, she sees the guy playing Frisbee alone.

She rides her bike home. There's a murder. I don't know. That's a movie. What's this little indie hit that got all that buzz at Sundance? Let's watch that one. Ladybugs.

Yeah, Ladybugs, but it has like an Angela Beto menti score and all this creepy, the ladybugs symbolize death or something. And you got like an Amy Mann cover of like, I shake my nerves and you rat on my brain. Take a man insane. Like really. A flawless Amy Mann impression.

Yeah. Wow. Well, this movie. Please, will someone in our audience recut a trailer for Lady Bugs as if it's a David Lynch movie? Yeah, you could easily do that. Yeah, I'm talking about the scene. I'm talking about the scene. And it's a movie about the...

What's the actor's name who plays the Matthew? Jonathan Brandis? It's about Jonathan Brandis' character careening between being Matthew and Martha. Cut a trailer with no Rodney in it. It's just this troubled teen. Make it like this weird little indie Sundance hit that got like polarizing reviews. I would love it. The most shocking Sundance debut. Put a nine-inch nail song on it and just...

It's so weird. Just him taking that wig off and on and that, like, that... Who am I? And then just cut to the woman outside the dressing room, keeling over. Gah! Again, that woman hit the ground so hard. Is there any way to block that, Paul?

I think she died. It looked like it really hurt. By the way, Rodney also in the changing room scene tries on breasts. Oh yeah. Yeah, for no reason. But also, why are there just balloons? All right, watch how this woman hits the ground like, oh my God. First we're going to see her react a little bit.

Yeah. And now she'll kill me. God, I can't believe I'm doing this. Don't worry, I'll be finished soon. Ow, take it easy, that hurts. Ow. All right, don't worry, if it's too tight, you'll get used to it. Ah!

Well, what a cute little girl. And what's your name? Ha ha! Ow! That is a myth. She just... Look at all of them. Ha ha ha!

Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! That is a man.

She broke four. One more time. What a cute little girl. Watch your hands. See? One more time. One more time! One more time! One more time! What a cute little girl, and what's your name?

That is... not bad. I genuinely wish the movie continued... What's your name? I genuinely wish the movie continued. I want you in there. I wish the movie continued, but following them. Yeah, exactly. Oh my god, my mother died in a department store. And the ADR people should have like hit some celery against a punching bag for like the noise of bones breaking, like really go all the way by the way that's how the the indie Sundance movie should

open yeah coming out touch your girl's face the mother dies and that's that's Matthew yeah Is this a sleepaway camp scenario? Uh... What's so crazy too is when Dangerfield and the kid come out, he's like, we're like, he's caught, but he shouldn't be that caught because he's dressed like a girl. Who doesn't know the context? I had no idea why he was reacting that way. Yeah, Jonathan is...

I had no idea why there was a literal basket of balloons there. Why? They're not for sale. You know the balloon table. That scene is really pretty graphic. I mean, just hearing it. Yeah. Horrible.

Don't worry. It'll fit or whatever. It's tight now. Anyway, this movie was, the budget was 20 million. 20 million dollars. Sorry, 20 million for what? What did they spend the money on? Spatulas. Okay, yeah, yeah. 20 million. Sorry, $20 million for what? What did they spend the money on? Spatulas.

Okay, yeah, yeah. $20 million. Yeah, it was, yeah, so it was $20 million. It made 14. And of the movies that came out that year, the top three were Aladdin, Home Alone 2, Lost in New York, and Batman Returns. In the movies that we've done on this podcast,

this movie was beaten by Lawn Mower Man, Sleepwalkers, Stop or My Mom Will Shoot, Toys, and Free Jack. Wow. It beat nothing. Those are all the same year? Yes. Wow. A real, a real.

Have we ever looked at what year was the, like we've done the most movies from what year? I think we've done every year, except for one year we have not done a movie. But he's asking what is the year where the most, yeah. Is there like one inarguable year of terrible movies? I would argue, I would just say based on this list, 92 looks like a very strong contender.

I would say late 80s, early 90s was a wonderful, wonderful time for for bad movies. Also, $20 million to make this about shocking. Yeah. $19 million for Rodney and then another half a mil for those crazy props. Yep. Half a million for sure just to make those architectural models. Just another little, oh by the way, there's a little bit of a note here that Paramount really struggled with the marketing of this film

because of Dangerfield's profane comedic persona clashed with the fact that it was a children's movie. And they decided they were gonna maybe change the title to The Coach, but they didn't really solve anything. Like, Lady Bugs is not a sexually suggestive title. How about To Catch a Coach? And then here's the other thing here. This is a Fury wanted to develop, and I thought this was interesting. is not a sexually suggestive title. How about to catch a coach? No? And then here's the other thing here.

This is a Fury wanted to develop, and I thought this was interesting, a movie that Dangerfield's passion project, a Fellini-esque comedy called Serenade Café about a nightclub owner with opera singing dreams. So we could have gotten that. We could have gotten that some way. Serenade Cafe. Dangerfield and opera. Don't know where that would have fit in.

We got your letters, America. We heard what you want. So there you go. Patton, we are so excited to have you back on the show. Glad to be back. Thank you. You have a special right now on Netflix. On Netflix, yeah. And also on the show. I'm glad to be back. Thank you. You have a special right now on Netflix.

On Netflix, yeah. And also you can go to the NBC.com website. First three episodes of AP buyer was streaming. Which is a great show if you've not watched it. It's really funny. And I feel like you're getting to do stuff that feels almost undecidedly net. Like doesn't feel like a network show. It's like an NBC show. You get to do like some really funny, dark stuff and the characters on it. It's great. It's such a fun show to do. Yeah, so definitely check out AP Bio on NBC and on NBC.com.

June, what do you want to? You can, well, the fourth season of Grace and Frankie is streaming now. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's it. All right, Jason. Nothing for me, thank you.

All right. There we go. Well, I don't think I have anything either. Yeah, just enjoy your lives. Um, thank you guys so much for coming and a big thank you to all the people that make this show possible. Avery Halle, who pulls all these clips, of course.

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