How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Space Jam LIVE!

Episode Date: August 21, 2023

LIVE from Chicago, Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1996 live action/animated sports comedy Space Jam starring Michael Jordan. They talk about Michael Jordan being unfazed when he meets the Looney Tu...nes, horny Bugs Bunny, soul stealing aliens, Bill Murray elevating the movie, the definition of a “jam,” and much more. (Originally released 02/13/2020) For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: www.youtube.com/paulscheerGo to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Trigger warning if you are a millennial you are going to have Hard problems with this show We saw space jam so you know what that means Hey, we got a good one. Now it's time for... What? What? A-G-D-G-M Get it right. Hey, everybody. Now it's time for...
Starting point is 00:00:36 What? What? A-G-D-G-D-G-M Man, shh! I don't know what this is. Hey, everybody. Now it's time to go. Hello, people of Earth, and the love people of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:01:00 We are here at the beautiful Chicago Theater to talk about a movie that is Chicago. Bill Murray, Michael Jordan, Bugs Bunny. All of them are here in a movie that could be a movie that some of you think is flawless. And I'm here to tell you, I'm here to tell you, you might be wrong. It might be great, but not for the reasons that you think. We're going to get into it all. Brief synopsis of the plot. This is a movie, very simple premise.
Starting point is 00:01:51 There is a theme park under the world, and they need to entertain the guests. So the plan is to put the loony tunes into slavery and keep their park a tourist spot. However, what they weren't betting on was that Bugs Bunny had a trick up his sleeve, and that trick was before they could be taken into slavery, they would play a basketball game. Bugs recruits Michael Jordan to join him in a weird Nether World.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Underneath our planet, we'll get into it. planet will get into it while the cockroaches from the alien planet steal the souls of basketball players. Again a perfect film succinctly told to talk about this film that I can easily say none of us grew up on. Is my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzougas! What's up, Jaxx? How are we doing Chicago? Oh, all right, balcony. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 All right, Jason Paul, did you ever see Space Jam? Today was the first time I've seen Space Jam. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Jason, today was the first time I've ever seen Space Jam.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! And, to add insult to injury, I did do an abbreviated live read of Space Jam with Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan at UCB. But it cut out a lot of the parts of this movie, yes. I thought that Wayne Knight, who I played, was the bad guy. Well, it kind of is.
Starting point is 00:04:23 A little bit. Oh boy, this movie, I know this is going to be controversial for a kind of is. A little bit. Oh boy. This movie, I know this is going to be controversial for a lot of you. This movie is fucking terrible. I know that if you are a boy, probably from Chicago of a certain age, this is insane to even consider. But this movie is straight trash. Oh!
Starting point is 00:04:55 Hold on, Jason. Maybe there are kids out here who grew up just loving a good old-fashioned cash grab. Maybe they just wanted to see their favorite products advertised for 85 minutes. Or talked about half of the products are just mentioned by name, simply to shoehorn them in there. I believe eight minutes of this movie is a clip reel of Michael Jordan on shitty grainy video. Yes, and another...
Starting point is 00:05:27 Another name. And it's just clips of looney tunes, cartoons. Old ones, this whole movie is a clip package. Fuck this movie. Also, fuck you Chicago. On that note, I bring out the looniest tune of them all. My co-host, Miss June, Diane, right, fjoll! How are you June? I'm good, how are you, Pop?
Starting point is 00:06:16 I'm great. June Space Jam came out in 1996. Did you see it in the theater? I did not. First time seeing Space Jam. Today. Today. This very day. So I want to get to the bottom of the just premise of the movie and where it started was the idea to get to figure out a way to get Michael Jordan and the looney tunes together. Like did we start there? They've been wanting to work together for a while. Michael Jordan had met Bugs Bunny, they wanted to work together. They were looking for a vehicle. They were trying to find a project. Because genuinely, or was it just Michael Jordan has a number of deals with these various
Starting point is 00:07:10 brands and we have to make a movie about it? June, I will say that the basis of this movie is a little bit more wild. It's based on a commercial. And I'd like to play the commercial. What's the commercial for? Well, Nike's, of course. Oh, okay. So, here is the commercial that this movie,
Starting point is 00:07:32 someone was like, got it, that's the movie. Just give me 88 more commercials. And we got a home movie. Across the universe, people are asking, what theme would steal air Jordan? Oh, goody! More air Jordan's for me! Hemp o' beach!
Starting point is 00:07:49 This is no way for a pamper superstar to travel. What the... And they're all mine! Give me your tea, Jill. Stop, yes, stop, yes, stop! No, no, no, that's no! Take these or else! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I smell trouble. I smell popcorn. She's got better fun, bro. Give it one more time. Give it one more time. Better.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Bar of heroes and land the world safe of truth, justice. And my ex-boyot chips from Nike. That's awful. That's my clients line. It's his one, Mike. It could be a deal. Cheese. OK.
Starting point is 00:08:40 OK. That was that. That was exhausting. Was this what commercials were like? I don't know. In 1996, that was a short commercial. That like gave me seizures. What was that? I feel like I was watching a gonna adult swim.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I don't know. I mean, it is a lot going on. They packed a lot into it. The director of that commercial is the director of this movie. Oh, boy. That has up. Well, this is what's so crazy about the movie. Because even to get to that, which is, I guess,
Starting point is 00:09:20 the basic idea of it's fun to see Michael Jordan with loony tunes. The premise of this movie, Space Jam, I guess we'll talk about the title later and what it means, but why? But what a long way they went. What a long road they traveled. Oh yeah. To get there, they're had to.
Starting point is 00:09:44 They're had to be an easier way to get those two things to meet Then this plot that we really I mean Here's one thing that could have made this movie a million times easier Marvin the Martian is from outer space why not and easier, Marvin the Martian is from outer space. Why not? And would maybe want to be a bad guy, and then that would set up the stakes. Why not just have it be?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Michael Jordan enters the Looney Tunes world. Great easy easy easy easy easy. So this exists in a world in which there is a different animated world, which is the world of Danny DeVito's animation characters. Yes. And they exist in our outer space. The Loonie Tunes.
Starting point is 00:10:32 The Loonie Tunes cartoons exist at the center of our Earth. In there. Yes, so they. They are beneath us right now. The Loonie Tunes live in the crust of the Earth. Is that canon? Is that, have we, do we, is that understood that the Loonitunes,
Starting point is 00:10:51 universe, it's a whole, is the source material? And it's a world in which humans watch Loonitunes and people in space watch Loonitunes. And it seemingly is a world in which the looney tunes are currently shooting because at one point when they are captured, the cartoon stops. So, but it never, never in this film where the looney tunes are just a... Or calling this a film?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Never in this 88-minute commercial. This isn't unspooled. Ha ha ha. This isn't a film. This is a space jam. I cannot tell you how many people said that this movie would be better served on unspooled. When Michael Jordan lands in Looney Tunes land, never does he say, whoa, bugs bunny, wow.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Michael Jordan is non-plussed by being brought into the center of the earth and interacting with legends from his childhood that we know he knows because he goes, hey, he just saw them on TV. He's like watch a road runner. Instead of a bad news report about how much I suck a baseball. No, he just saw these. He gets brought into the loony tunes universe
Starting point is 00:12:16 and literally should be like, I just saw you on TV. I grew up with you. Bugs, I love you. Nope. Nope. Oh, hey Bugs. Is it? His energy is like, of course. Next. Is it a and what else are you doing? Do you know, you think it's like a comment on celebrity that Michael Jordan at
Starting point is 00:12:37 this point, a gigantic celebrity. He's unfazed by everything. He's seen it all. Listen, all I could think about watching this movie was how much time Michael Jordan spent just acting on his own in front of a green screen. Oh my God. I mean, weak, weak, just doing just re-enactions and lines. With like tennis balls on sticks. I mean, by the way, I don't even. I don't even react like that's Bugs. Bugs is that, that's Daffy. I mean, I, 10 is no one's sticks. I mean, by the way, I don't even... I don't even... You're reacting like that's Bugs.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Bugs is that, that's Daffy. I mean, I honestly don't even, I think that you're being kind. I don't even think the eye lines were good in this movie. Oh no. It is, Fish Eye Lens on him. It feels like the camera's like,
Starting point is 00:13:18 like mounted on his chest. Like, a lot of the times, his head and neck are arching backwards. Like, like, like, someone's like dangling a knife at his head and neck are arching backwards like like like like someone's like dangling a knife at his throat like yeah but I'm gonna get back and I read a lot of stuff before like well yeah Michael Jordan's not a great actor he's not a great actor don't have a problem with that don't think I have a problem with him as an actor in this movie. I think he is doing an admirable job in this movie.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I don't, I mean, it's an insane thing, but it's like, I don't know. Jason, Michael Jackson is a better Charles Barkley had been the lead of this movie. I mean, or Larry Bird? By the way, Larry Bird. I mean, let's bring what if it was Larry Bird? Danny Ainsch, Robert Parrish, classic Celtics lineup. No. Michael Jordan is a legend and I did, I find him to be, I mean, he's not an actor. And so you're watching it with that in mind. And you're giving him that runway to work with. No, no.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And he was totally fine. I'm teasing. He was totally fine. Yes, I think he does a totally capable, competent job. Especially when you consider that he was alone all the time. Yes. He earned. And all the other actors, for the most part in this movie,
Starting point is 00:14:52 if you were to make a graph, you could say 99% of the other actors are not actors. They are sports stars. Yes, but like, you think about what Michael Jordan is doing in this movie. Michael Jordan is a part of a sociology experiment. He is acting alone for a month? Yeah, a month.
Starting point is 00:15:11 That would make a person go crazy. Sure. It could make someone a grown man even grow a Hitler mustache. Michael Jordan was so good. he could read that mustache. He could take that mustache back. That's how good he was. He could reclaim the Hitler mustache. Yes. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:15:37 If I'm Charles Barkley, and we all know that Charles Barkley, great player, even better commentator on NBA games. But I would be a little bit offended, but they named a dog after me. Like, Michael Jordan's dog is Charles Barkley, but like, the dog is named Charles. I'd be like, my fucker, I shut up to your movie. You named a dog after me, fuck you, Michael. Go fuck yourself. Call that dog, Shaq.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I mean, seriously, you like, I thought that was offensive to Charles Barkley. When that dog is attacking Michael, when he comes back from the, he comes back from the baseball game and he's not done well and the dog comes out and tackles him right and is licking his face or whatever. The woman that comes out to take the dog away, I believe threatens to cook the dog. I believe she says that I will cook you. I was like, whoa!
Starting point is 00:16:43 And that wasn't his wife. That wasn't a transistor And that wasn't his wife. That wasn't a transfer. That was his wife's mother, I believe. Okay. By the way, why does the school bus get out in front of, or the little league bus get out in front of Michael Jordan's house? Like, I assume Michael's wife. Well, you could just put in a request to have a little league bus get off at your house.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Got it. You just have to file a request with the town. I've done it. By the way, it was so funny. It wasn't like the boy just got off. I think his mom is the coach. It was everyone got off and scattered. How did this get me?
Starting point is 00:17:18 I have to say the one thing that I thought was the most comical was that my Jordan was a very modest existence. This is arguably the richest, like biggest celebrity of the time. And he's living in three bedroom, maybe a four bedroom, probably not even a pool in that house. Like not even a house that you would showcase
Starting point is 00:17:42 like on a sitcom. It is a modest house. And he's staying in a hotel that looks would showcase on a sitcom. It is a modest house. And he's staying in a hotel that looks like a motel six. I thought they were maybe trying to prove a point about his transition into baseball. That's what I assumed as well. Yeah, that he was in. He was in...
Starting point is 00:17:59 Stop it, McDonald's. Get a big coke. Sitting that room by himself. He's drinking out of McDonald's cup. Oh. Just watching the recap of the game. What? Honestly, Chicago, what was good about this movie? Everything.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Everything is what we're saying. Can I show you? We did talk about the sociological experiment of Michael Jordan. I wanted to show you a little bit of what that sociological experiment looked like. This is Michael Jordan playing against green screen creatures to get a sense of the hell he was in.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Oh my gosh. He is in a world of full green surrounded by men of green. He did a great job. That's, I mean, that's terrifying. I guarantee he has nightmares about this. This is a nightmare where he's surrounded by green men. And if that's the boy... And nobody's talking to him.
Starting point is 00:19:08 This is a nightmare. It's at the point, too, where green screen technology is not quite great yet, so everything is green. Like, that is a hellscape. Because what was really fun about Roger Abbott was, I think, for the most part of the movie, at least I remember it, a lot of the cartoons were in the real world. Here, Michael Jordan is in the cartoon world, and that's weird. And by the way, he's disappeared.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Michael has disappeared. From a golf game with Larry Bird, Bill Murray, and Wayne Knight's character. He gets, he gets lassoed into a, the cup is a called a cup. Yeah, the whole of a golf. The whole. I've never played golf. The whole at the end of a ball round. The old tin cup, right? Oh yeah, it's sure Kevin Costner. The old tin cup, right? Oh, yeah, it's shirt-capping costume. The old tin cup. He gets a hole in one he reaches in, and Yusemite Sam's latho comes out and sucks him in,
Starting point is 00:20:14 and Bill Murray and Larry Bird are like, eh, cool. This is also a movie where an alien spaceship flies over a minor league baseball game, and they're like, whoa, anyway, what's going on? Any meds? Everything's totally cool. An alien spaceship flies over a minor league baseball game. And they're like, whoa! Anyway, what's going on in the parents? Everything's totally cool. They also, at the end of the movie, it lands Wayne Knight gets off.
Starting point is 00:20:32 He's like, ladies and gentlemen, Michael Jordan. Wait, hold on. That's a fucking cartoon spaceship. There is a word. It's not just a spaceship. Again, keep in mind, cartoons are invading the real world. It's not just that it just a spaceship. Again, keep in mind cartoons are invading the real world. It's not just that it's a spaceship. It is a cartoon spaceship.
Starting point is 00:20:51 That's what's so weird. I mean, yeah, I guess I don't know. Our cartoons, the presence of cartoons just integrated into this reality. I don't know. It seems like people are just okay with cartoons living a world of cartoons living underneath them, up of them.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Here's the thing, I agree with you, June. We need to build a wall to keep these cartoons out of our country. Build that wall? Question mark? Alright, let me talk about the other troubling thing about this movie. When they agree...
Starting point is 00:21:37 Just the one other. Just one, just one more. And then everything else is just gold. The movie is built around this conceit like they need to learn how to play basketball to beat the monsters who have stolen the souls, we'll get into stealing the souls in a second. But to beat this other team that seemingly is unbeatable, they don't ever learn or train. It's like they extracted it back up for a second. Yes. So the reason this, this, this is why to me, it's such a, it's such a long road to travel. So the reason why they're playing
Starting point is 00:22:17 basketball and we've set up that there's a basketball game. Yes. To compete in basketball game to compete in is because the aliens have an amusement park? No, the basketball, the reason why they picked basketball as the sport was because they looked at a lineup and they said okay, they're so short. But they're not that much shorter. That was the other problem I had. Well, the aliens are bigger than Tweety Bird. They're bigger than some of the loony tunes. But Tweety wasn't going to play.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I mean, he was going to be more of the bench guy. Tweety was in the game. Tweety goes into an iron lung. Tweety literally is in an iron luna? Listen! What year is it? 1996? 1996? 1996. 1996.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Polio is still all over the place. And it's most affecting our canaries. So wait, okay, so just backup for one more second. Please, please, please, please. So, okay, in this other world that's up there in outer space, there's Nemusement Park. Moron Mountain. Moron Mountain.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Which is a clever play on magic mountain because Warner Bros. own stake in magic mountain. So the way that they were gonna tie it in is make it really fun, call it moron mountain, and say that the ride suck. You may want to make your brother go to Magic Mountain. So that's a Disney slag. Magic Mountain, like as in Six Flags?
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yes, no, no. Six Flags. It's, I'm being serious, like. They, wait, Warner Brothers own Six Flags. So Warner Brothers has a deal with Six Flags Magic Mountains. So, all the Warner Brothers characters appear there. So, they're like, oh, this is a fun tie-in. Like, our characters are there.
Starting point is 00:24:13 But what they do is present the shittiest thing and say, like, so technically, in our world, they've won. Because all of our, those characters do perform at Magic Mountain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what? Oh, oh, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I'm not kidding. I don't know what you just said. I do understand. I wish I didn't, but I do understand. I also suspect I have an inkling that I don't care. So Magic Mountain is a thing that exists. Sure. Six Fogs.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And Moron Mountain is a takeoff of that. That's correct. So in the world that we are all living in and occupying and sustaining this world, in that, like if we were to go to a Six Fogs right now, we would see. Magic Mountain. No, we would see the loony-choose characters. Loony-choose characters. Right, but would we see... Magic Mountain. No, we would see the Looney Tunes characters. Right, but would we see More On Mountain? No.
Starting point is 00:25:08 No, but Jason, you're getting confused. Okay, Jason, we would see Magic Mountain, and we would be there, which is the play on More On Mountain. Right, but I would see More On Mountain from Space Jam. Okay, because I love Space Jam, because I'm a Space Jam nut. The Looney Tunes characters would be there, which means that in reality, the one that we're all in, they start, what are they called?
Starting point is 00:25:35 The monsters. The monsters won. Because they have put them into slavery out magic fountain. Because they would've been there. So in the real world, they won. Wait, so we're living in a post-Monstar's victory? Yes. Right now, in this moment, that we're all in.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Are we in the Matrix? You got to ask Keanu about this. Siri, call Keiano Reeves. That's really disturbing. Alright, so, wow! The, the, when they... That's shocking. When they do decide to play this basketball game.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Wait, but, okay, so, Pa, I'm sorry, back up, back up, buddy. So... So, in... Back up buddy. So. So. So in. Okay, so the reason why. Wait, so more on that. So the the amusement park isn't doing well or people are complaining. Yes, you saw what happened in Moron Mountain.
Starting point is 00:26:39 There's a ride where a cigarette or a cigar flame ignites the ride, shooting the passengers of the ride car out and crashing them down into a pit to which the son of the Father like this place sucks then Danny to be as like everyone says our place sucks We need to make it great. Let's see it. We need something crazy. We need something Looney Looney tunes. Go get looney tunes. A very simple A to B to C.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Please, promise, clean, clean. The Danny DeVito character also has a bank of monitors and he sits on a remote control that makes each TV play a different Looney Tunes clip. What button would he have had to have clicked? What button gives you Looney Tunes on every screen? But no repeats. So then they go to get the Looney Tunes.
Starting point is 00:27:40 What? Yeah, they're going to get the Looney Tunes. That's why they tie B bugs bunny up in all those chains and then bring them to the town hall to say we're fucked we're being shipped out of here and we we are we are literally we are we are on a we are on a slave journey we are now being taken to the moon to work as indentured servants this is so then where does basketball play in? So Bugs Bunny then quickly comes up and playing goes, ah, you can't kidnap us unless you give us a shot or some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:28:15 He writes it in like a fake rulebook. Yes, and tapes it in there very badly. And then present it to them and go, okay, yeah, we'll give you a chance. And they go, well, we can play him in anything. How do they give him a chance? Because they're fair. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:29 All right. You know what? You know, no one ever wants to, you know, nerd-luck-pound, nerd-luck-blanko, nerd-luck-bang, nerd-luck-bumpkiss, and nerd-luck-knot. They are fair characters. Is that their names?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah. OK. And you guys like this movie? Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, you know, so, because of the thing, not and bump you some blanko, they say, we'll give you a shot. We'll give you a shot. And then Bugs Bunny says, looks at all of their stacks and sees that they're a little bit smaller
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah, but not much not much really much and says we will Challenge them to a game of basketball. Yeah a game a game that none of the loo Nobody joins themselves know right Right they're just, what a challenge them to a game of like, anvoltacing, or any of the looney tunes, sweet spots. I mean, just racing what? Outside their comfort zone.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Racing the road runner would be a great one, easy. Road race. Just a race. Boom. But the coyote would probably fuck it up. It's a movie though. So they picked this thing that they're not good at. And here's what I think I'm really missing from the plot. A plot? Is you kind of want some of the bad news bears, training montage.
Starting point is 00:30:05 They don't do anything to train for the game. Besides watch Richard Simmons. They kind of rested all on Michael Jordan. They meet one good player, Lola Bunny. Well, let's meet Lola Bunny now. If you are here and your man just whooped at Lola Bunny, you need to break up tonight. Lola Bunny clearly in the tracks of Jessica Rabbit,
Starting point is 00:30:44 a sexualized character, in the tracks of Jessica Rabbit, a sexualized character, and she comes up, well I wouldn't say she's sexualized, but she is definitely... You wouldn't say she was sexualized? I mean, she was sexualized, but she spoke out against it. That's funny, it was like, horny for Lola Bunny, and she's like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:06 So much that he pops a human erection. He literally as stiff as a board when she touches him. His whole body becomes a giant Bugs Bunny dick. That's, made his whole body becomes a Bugs Bunny dick. Didn't you see that moment where it's like a Bugs Bunny? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Full erect in the air, but Lola Bunny comes in.
Starting point is 00:31:30 You know, she's, you know, Bugs Bunny's not wearing pants, yet she is. Like here's the thing, this is great. Lola Bunny is not wearing a top. This is great. She. Lola Bunny. Lola Bunny is wearing clothes. So now we have precedent for bunnies needing clothes. That means in juxtaposition that Bugs is nude.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And I came. Like Michael, look again. Michael Jordan is alone in a room. I want you guys, because you guys might not understand. Michael Jordan is currently right here, entirely surrounded by green screen, and people in green screen uniforms being like Not even doing the voices of these characters because silent People wearing all green just think about that and he is forced to cycle through every face He has and and I genuinely believe can can you go backwards, Puffer?
Starting point is 00:32:45 Just a second to where you just were for a second and go, right here, I guarantee if he turned this way, he was shooting a BVD's ad. He was like, same framing. So, Lola Bunny comes in, shows everyone she's great at basketball and then leaves. It didn't say like it was a tri-out day, it just seemed like we're practicing.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Anyway, little that they know that are amazing, pound, blanko, bang, bumpkiss, and not are stealing the souls of basketball players. You're saying souls. They say they were talent. Yeah, I think it's talent. They seem Well, at least Charles Barclays like walks into a wall Bunk like that that you think it's your soul that keeps you from walking into walls
Starting point is 00:33:37 I feel like they have an update. There is no soul. It does not exist. It is not There is no soul. It does not exist. It is not stealable. They steal their talent. Well, but what I would say is the talent is different, reveals itself differently to each player, because they seem like some seem like zombies, except for when Patrick Ewing's masculinity is questioned, in a kid's movie,
Starting point is 00:34:03 we're basically the therapist is like, do you still fuck? Yeah. Wasn't that, that was not, there was, that was part of like two horny moments that I wrote down. There were almost back to back, oh, because it's the Barry White style music scene. Yes. That leads right into the therapist asking Patrick Ewen if he's having trouble performing anywhere else other than on the court, IE, a little bit groom. Test for electrolytes. So they look. Can you pause for a second?
Starting point is 00:34:32 OK, this is Mugsie Bugs, right? Yeah. He is not walking. He is definitely not walking. He is not walking. He is on a camera. He's on something with wheels because I think they wanted him to seem so short that he was even shorter than this doctor. And so they were like, we're
Starting point is 00:34:52 going to have you sit on something on wheels because the joke is you're so short. By the way, let's just break this down for you. These aliens don't know what the fuck they're doing. They are stealing the talent of two centers, two power forwards and a point guard. That's who they have chosen for their team, two centers, two power forwards and a point guard. And then the shortest player ever in the NBA is one of them, Mugsie Boggs. Well, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's okay, but again, if you are trying to put together the All-Starting Man, I love Mugsie Bugs. It's an odd choice. And then Sean Bradley. Did you just say? Did you just say? Sean Bradley is the center that you take. Sean Bradley averages eight points a game.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Okay, this is a year where Hakeem Alijuan and Chiquillo Neal are playing in the NBA finals two amazing centers. They take Sean Bradlin. Are you guys doing sports on unspooled? How do you know all this? I'm just saying I grew up in this area. You just also called him Bugsie Mugs. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Which, by the way, he should immediately change his name to Bugsie Mugs. But it's a crazy, it's a crazy, it's a, yeah, that guy's too big. I mean, I think they just wanted him because he was so tall. Yeah. Maybe they had to put Mugsy Bugs on a dolly because they were trying to keep them all in one place. They shot this scene.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Like, that's like a Spike Lee moment. Everyone's always on a dolly. It's weird. But this is an odd thing. So you'll watch who hits their head, we'll see. Chatter up thing. And we schedule the 12 lead checks and we'll watch it.
Starting point is 00:36:48 But he's moving, he's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving.
Starting point is 00:36:54 He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving.
Starting point is 00:37:02 He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. He's just moving. There are like six takes where they're like, you gotta move your shoulders. Just to make it seem like, because there's six takes where he's like, it seems to me. It also seems to me that he is on. Like I feel like he is on a rolling chair that is hooked to a rope,
Starting point is 00:37:23 because this doctor is walking. So let's see see this is like the stormtrooper bump of head Let's see what happens here EEG They all did their own stunts what's crazy is that I thought that was a pretty good stunt though. Yeah, I also didn't see coming I didn't see coming It was funny. Watch it again. I mean that's pretty good. We played again and watched Patrick Ewing. Oh, it's a wonder.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Patrick Ewing. I wonder if Mugs, I wonder if Mugs he had to be on a rig because they were going to fall down on a mat. There's definitely a mat behind those guys. Maybe. But the doctor is not. The doctor's not on a rig, right?
Starting point is 00:38:02 The doctor's got a battery to a new EEG. Patrick Ewing is so slow. This is good. Patrick Ewing, you old- Hey, one more time. Yep. Are you playing it?
Starting point is 00:38:11 Can we make a loop of this? Watch Patrick Ewing, please. Reto in the pool. EEG, please. Who is the best actor of this dream team? Oh, Muzzi Boz. I mean, Barclay does some good stuff here. Oh, Barclay's the best. Barclay's nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Blocked my shot. Then you can first start. Then you pause for a second. Why does he have Edward Monks the screen? If I go to a therapist's office, and they have the screen, I go to a therapist's office and they have the screen I am out Not a print but the painting That is not a good that is the painting of the screen. It's time to go
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and if my therapist looks too much like Freud. It's a little on the nose I want to play the Patrick Ewing uh, sex scene here. Look at the perspective of how big Patrick Ewing is in this. By the way, Patrick Ewing, the only I think actor of this bunch because he was in the ex one of the exorcist movies.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Well Charles Barkley has hosted SNL many times. Oh, at this point, okay, you probably right, here we go. Besides basketball, will you find yourself? Yeah. I'm able to perform. Yeah, yeah. No, just asking.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And I'm s- No, I fuck. Eh. Ha ha ha. It's a crazy, it's a crazy thing, dad. This movie is full of crazy moments. What was basketball Jones? That's the basketball Jones, basketball Jones.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I mean, that's like a Barry White song, right? So is it like a song? Yeah. Oh, no. Cheech and cha. It's Cheech and cha. Oh, no. Cheach and Chong. It's Cheach and Chong. I did not know that. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Thank you, everybody. basketball Jones is a Cheach and Chong song remade by Chris Rock and Barry White. Is that it? For this movie? Guys, again, I suspect this is a bad movie. I don't know about you guys, Chicago, but this seems to be a bad movie. It's not a bad movie because it shows that if you all take drugs, you'll play better.
Starting point is 00:40:40 It is a very like steroids is very present and the C story for this movie is about cartoon characters needing a stronger union. How do you mean? They have multiple union meetings. There is like they are unionized in a way that is negative. Yeah. I mean, this movie even gives up on itself at a certain point, which is Bill Murray enters the end of the film. And it's like, hey, which, by the way, I am always a for Bill Murray.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Bill Murray is, I mean, Bill Murray, okay. Bill Murray is my favorite. Yeah. I love him so much. He elevates the movie. A million percent. He absolutely elevates the movie. And his performance, I mean, the thing
Starting point is 00:41:32 that I so appreciate about Bill Murray is his performance is never sweaty. It's never, he's working on his own timeframe. And he's working in a reality that we all join in not like he's just So relaxed on head he's Yes, he's confident and at ease and he gives you faith in the movie that he's in yes And I when I when I was with him during this movie I was happy I was okay I would all okay and I was trying to stay
Starting point is 00:42:08 with him for as long as I could. He's the only actor besides Wayne Knight that is actually getting to interact like so you feel like oh this is what I'm really supposed to be. Actors doing lines being funny not just sports stars standing very stiffly Playing other sports than what we know them for But when he comes in this is his intro His second Calm Dan Akrod was in his picture. Calm Dan Akrod, jokes with the kids. Also, okay, so did anybody else slightly freak out about seeing Bill Murray in shorts?
Starting point is 00:42:49 I, I've, I loved it and I hated it. I had a crazy reaction to it. I like that. Bill Murray was like, I'm wearing a t-shirt. I think this outfit is great. I like, I love everything about it. I didn't mind it at all. With the exception of this game takes place in Looney Tunes world at the center of the earth.
Starting point is 00:43:14 How did he get there? How did he get there? Well, here he'll tell you. You've been bugging me. Yeah. Just how did you get here? Anyway. Producers, a friend of mine just had a team shirt come and drop me off here.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Boom! That's it. The movie gives up. Producers are friend of mine. Ivan Reitman, true fact. Yep. They don't even try. No, no. They're wrong. There's a lot of hand waving. Like, it's a movie. Don't worry. How long is the final game? 35 minutes. What do you mean? This game starts and there's 35 minutes left of the movie.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Oh, oh, wait, are you saying that we don't watch a real-time basketball game? No, I'm saying. I'm upset we didn't watch every quarter of this game in real time. No, what I'm saying is for one, grateful that the game is only 35 minutes if I'm being honest. I'm saying, I don't need to see the half time show. I don't need to see what's up. I'm saying that's a long time to watch a game
Starting point is 00:44:17 that is nonsense. Like this should have been 10 minutes tops, a 10 minute game. Like 35 minutes of this, it's only Michael Jordan jumping around CGI characters. There's not like, it's like, he still has very vivid nightmares of green, clad people attacking him in the green room. Like that's the stuff of MJ Nightmares. I mean, we got a, whoof boy.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Um, wasn't it weird to you that, Yes. That Elmer Fud just has a gun out on the court? So many people have guns. There's multiple guns that are just, isn't there the Pulp Fiction moment has guns? Yes. So this movie comes out two years after pulp fiction comes out and they put in this moment with the guns and
Starting point is 00:45:13 the guns look so real Like they like the Elmer Fudds like rightful is funny and whatever but when they have that pulp fiction moment That's like a that's like a god. That's like a Glock It's like and they shoot out those monstrous teeth. It's pretty aggressive. Why?
Starting point is 00:45:33 Why? Why is this movie called Space Jam? So, they're not in space. They're not in space. They are not in space. How are they defining the word jam? Why do you like jam like basketball? What's a jam?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Like an NBA jam. Let me ask you this. Maybe I'm with maybe a jam. Maybe I don't know. Oh, OK. Oh yeah. I said like NBA jam. She's like a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And I said yes. Oh, then that is what it is. Oh, I didn't know that. What is that? Like it was a video game called like NBA Jam. Oh, OK. Tell me more. Fine.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I accepted. What is it? And you think that's the titular jam being referred to here? Oh my god. So you wait. Wow. Hold on. Let's back you guys up.
Starting point is 00:46:16 It's okay. I'm fine. I'm fine. Yeah. When Jam is like, you're jamming the ball. Let me ask you this. When people get together to play basketball, do they call it a jam?
Starting point is 00:46:24 No, but they're Excuse me. I played basketball for many years I was MVP of my high school tea and Highest score many years in a row. I was five nine at the age of 11. I played basketball. I was a great player.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Wow. You were a great player. Yes. Okay. Just a little bit. I never went to a jam. I never referred to games as jams. I genuinely don't know. It's not a game. No, it's not like you're, it's not like,
Starting point is 00:47:09 let's go to a jam. It's jamming the ball through the hoop. I never played basketball. Here's what I was doing. Did you play any sports? I never played basketball. I was captain of my high school soccer team. Soccer, OK.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I was captain of the track team. I was president of the marching band. Don't worry about it. I have a pretty clear picture. But let me be clear. Never once did I hear any of my basketball playing friends say, let's grab the ball and go jam. You guys are so wrong on this.
Starting point is 00:47:42 What sports did you play, Paul? Yeah, what sports did you play? Because I know you didn't play any. Yeah, Paul. Intramural basketball. Intramural? Yep. Arsenic and old lace.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Anything goes. Broadway boundless. I wrote my own material. First of all, jam is a, like when you do an NBA jam, jam is a basketball term, am I right? Yeah! I'm fine. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I didn't just watch basketball, I'm so sorry, I played it. Wow. Ha ha ha. Well, let's, let's just... Hey everybody get up, it's time to slam now We got the real jam going down Welcome to the space jam It's your chance to do your dance At the space jam
Starting point is 00:48:34 Okay, these people love it These people love it Get this burning! Get up! Okay I don't love it. Get this burning. Get up. Get up. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Come on, Chicago. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, The fact that June and Jason were thinking about jam like the spread. I wasn't. I just, but so here, okay, so fine. So now I guess I understand. Space pervert preserves. Now I understand the jam of it all, but, but, but the jam does not happen in space. Right. That is the part that they were in.
Starting point is 00:49:22 It happens in the lunar core. Yes. It happens in the equator. Can I talk to you? Can I talk to you guys about? It should be called Earth's core jam. I need to talk to you guys a little bit about what happened here with these, the idea of the jam. So, the fact that you have that much paperwork for this.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Yeah, what is going on? For this movie is genuinely unsettling. I mean, I have so much to tell you about this movie, the one thing, well, let's get into the Jamfax first. Because the Jamfax are good. Oh, God, do we have to? There are Jamfax? Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:00 So, Tony Hawk posted a while ago, a January 5th, 2019. The skateboarder? Yes, he posted in 2019. Yep, okay. He posted in 2003, I was requested to meet with Warner Brothers about doing a film tentatively titled, Skate Jam. They were bringing back loony tunes and wanted to start on my project immediately a week later, back in action bombed and Skate Jam was forever shelved, but that didn't stop
Starting point is 00:50:31 them. They also discussed spy jam with Jackie Chan, race jam with Jeff Gordon. No, Paul, can I call you Paul? Can I call you? Yeah. This proves your theory about the worst jam This disproved your jam thing. You're a theory about a moratorium. The jam is a basketball thing.
Starting point is 00:50:49 It's not. It's not a basketball thing, it's a skateboard thing. I think they were drafting off of the success of Space Jam, which is a junk. Rapping is a cycling thing. And a racing thing. The old storm has bite jam. They also were gonna do a golf centered film with Tiger Woods,
Starting point is 00:51:09 which they don't have the title for. But jam, I think. Jam in the woods. I think he made that movie. No, he just, he just have to go on porn hub to see it. So he just, he just have to go on porn hub to see it. So, I mean, also just to give you an idea of why they wouldn't want to change the title, guess? Alright.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Alright. Guess how much money the merchandising from Space Jam is made. I don't want you guys to get out. I don't want you. I don't want you. I don't want you. I don't want made. I don't want you guys to get away. I don't want you. Looking out on the audience tonight, people have spent a small fortune on Space Jam merch. Look at you, morons. OK.
Starting point is 00:51:53 These two idiots have bankrupted themselves. No doubt buying Space Jam shirts on eBay. So not the film, but merchandising. Like, what just want to put a figure on it? Anyhow much money the merchandising space gem was. Whoa. Hold on, you guys. I'm gonna say, a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:52:15 June. I'm sorry, I'm distracted. I'm, a grown man just walked on the aisle and a diaper. I'm, I'm so sorry. Is there a gentleman in a di- oh, here he walked on the aisle and a diaper. I'm so sorry. Is there a gentleman in a diaper? He dressed as a baby. Oh, he's got a baby. I'm going to need that man to be escorted out of the premises.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Because he also appears to have my face on a bib. I will need this person quote unquote removed. I'd like him to space jam his way out of here. All right, just quick question. Chicago, how many people are wearing diapers in the ground? Balcony, devil, and devil. Dive life. Late show, Chicago. How many people are there? How many people are there? Diplife! Late show, Chicago,
Starting point is 00:53:10 Hashtag Diplife, Hashtag Space Jam, Hashtag, Do in number 2's while the shows go in on. Don't want to miss a second who been in peeing in my little boys diaper. I'm a preposterous man. That's you. That's your theme song. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:31 All right. Jason says $1 billion during what do you say? I don't know. I would say maybe $20 million. OK. In 2009, it was report. Wait, this movie came out in 2009, in 2009, the Chicago Tribune reported that Space Jam merchandise pulled in at least one point two billion dollars. And, and- That's what I'm talking about people.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And, an industry insider calculated that the brand's global economic impact was closer to four billion or maybe six billion dollars. What are we talking about? Well, let's be clear. What are you saying? How about this stand up right now if you are wearing space jam merch? Stand up, dum-dums. Wow. You guys are part of the problem. Look at all this money.
Starting point is 00:54:39 There's like four grand in merch tonight. I mean, this movie when it came out was greeted with scathing reviews. People said things like this, a clear marketing tool, a relentless publicity machine, a big-screen babysitter about salesmanship. Entertainment Weekly said it was greed promoted as synergy. And to paraphrase,
Starting point is 00:55:10 to paraphrase that seminal media study that broadcast news, this is what the devil looks like. But yeah, this movie that averaged a D-plus cinema score made a worldwide gross of $230 million. Well, I don't know what's what anymore. I don't want to live in this world. This movie not only pissed off the critics, it pissed off the creators of Looney Tunes. They fired Mel Blanc's son from doing all the voices because he wanted more money and they just cast different people to do the voices. Chuck Jones, who was the original animator,
Starting point is 00:56:07 was like, I hate this movie. Bugs Bunny would never recruit anybody else to help him in his battles. That's awesome. That's awesome. I mean, it's some crazy, crazy stuff. The thing that I'm disturbed at, and I don't think people really talk about,
Starting point is 00:56:27 is when they take the talent of the MBA stars, they turn into terrifying creatures, as if their talent is steroids personified. Yeah, agree. I also took issue with the fact that when they don't have talent, it seems like the barometer for that. For us to really understand as an audience that they have lost their basketball talent is that, I mean, we understand why, and it's because they've lost to a bunch of girls
Starting point is 00:57:00 playing basketball. And that was really upsetting. Yeah. Even though when we watched it, Paul, you said that's not the reason why. Do you guys want us to step out? No, I was maybe we should. Why don't you guys and I just kind of I mean Paul knows I loved playing basketball and I said wait a second are we to understand that like Girl basketball not basketball. That's what the whole conversation was about
Starting point is 00:57:41 Take another sip Paul take another sip Take another sip, Paul. Take another sip. I don't know which side to come down on it because I don't remember what I said exactly. You were defending the film. Yeah. If we can call it that. Yeah. And you said, no, that's not what they're saying here. And I said, that's absolutely what they're saying. I think he, what I thought they were saying was that he could be beaten by kids. But then in the immediate scene, it was like, I was beaten by girls. So I was wrong. I thought he just had, I thought, oh, that's cool. They're showing like great young female basketball players.
Starting point is 00:58:17 What a great message to send. But he can't beat kids. It's Charles Barkley. Of course he could beat kids. He should be able to beat kids. He's an adult NBA player. He should be able kids. He should be able to beat kids. He's an adult NBA player. He should be able to beat any young people of any gender. But the way he should be able to beat adults,
Starting point is 00:58:34 just a billion. Sure, but I think the idea was, in my mind, I gave the film The Benevolent That was like, you sure did, buddy. And I was like, you sure did, then. And I was like, oh, he's showing up in a bath. Oh, like this is so, I don't even, because I'm with June on this 100%.
Starting point is 00:58:50 This is crazy what you're saying. I told her I pulled it back because I just thought, oh, it's cool. Because if the reality, if Charles Barkley's talent was taken away, anybody, any team of young women could just crush him. Yeah. That's what just crush him. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:59:07 OK. I was just saying that I thought he just, he's like, all right, you know what? I may not be able to play it at the NBA. Let me find some kids. And I'll do it. And he just happened to find women or young girl basketball players.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And I was like, OK, yeah, it's no difference to him. But then in the next scene, he's like, I was beaten by girls. I was like, oh, well, okay, fuck this way. June, did you audition for this? I... As a basketball phenom of the time. LAUGHTER Did you audition for any of these parts in the game?
Starting point is 00:59:40 You know, I was just focused on the sport at that time. I wasn't looking to transition into an acting career. You were just WNB. I was just like, I'm... But now this is interesting, you, so you didn't go with your basketball team because he's face-traum. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I mean, when did this movie come out? 1996. I was 16 years old. I was playing. I was in the prime of my career. Well, let's go, let's go out to the audience. Let's talk to them. Let's see if they are. You need your hat.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Oh, yeah. I'm going to go on to the audience right now. And I have a special hat for the occasion. I'll hold the mic. Is what the hat says. All right, my hat is on is there a minute? Got your hat got your mustache you're going to the audience. Let's do it sir your name Team monsters or team tune squad and your question
Starting point is 01:00:38 my name is Frankie and hardcore team tune squad and hard-core team to squad. And my question is, did you notice that at the end of the game, they flashed to the scoreboard and they're down 10 points and he's like, all right, get the ball to me and then it goes back to the scoreboard and then they're just down two points. I did notice that, that is a big thing on the internet, that the scoreboard, no one caught it. It's an animated film. It's not a real thing. They could have had any point fixed that scoreboard because I believe if I'm right,
Starting point is 01:01:12 they score, they go on such a score run that it's a blowout or something like that. And then it goes down after half time and then it goes down again. It's weird. The scoring is weird and not right for this movie. Did you guys notice that when you were... Did you imagine the internet threads have lit a fire.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I not only didn't notice, I don't give a fuck. I don't, I don't, it doesn't occur to me at all to, to kid, I don't know. Not only is this man in a costume, he's in a full-body costume, a tune squad costume as the Tasmanian devil. Which reminds me of a quick story that I'll tell. Oh, all right. Everybody. Brace yourselves.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah, really get ready. Honestly, just send to yourselves, just remain calm, go ahead, Paul. I may have told this in this podcast before. Oh, by the way, I would love it. If all that this guy just said right now and Paul gives in the mic is, Rar-rarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Let's see how he chooses. All right. I'll give him this chance.
Starting point is 01:02:46 So you can think about it as I tell this brief story. I was going to college. My parents were dropping me off at college. My mom said, I want to help decorate your room, get some stuff from bedbath and be honest. I said, okay, sure. Get like a shower curtain, things like that. That's decoration.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I wanna help decorate your dorm room. I'll get you a shower curtain. Ooh. She leaves and comes back. And everything she has bought is Tasmanian Devil. Ah. Tasmanian Devil. Ah! Tasmanian Devil Shallor, couldn't. I've heard this story before.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Tasmanian Devil Toothbrush Holder. Tasmanian Devil Soapdish. Loonytunes, bedsheets. Loonytunes Comforter. I am an adult going to college. And my room looks like it came out of a catalog for a five-year-old. And I said to my mom, I don't even like this character, and she said to me, but you played the Tasmanian Devil video game, it's your favorite character.
Starting point is 01:04:00 And I said, no, it's not. We didn't return it and for the whole freshman year in my dorm it was fully decked out with tens. Was there ever a time in which you forgive me, June? Brought a girl back to your dorm room. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. June. She's shower curtain and bathroom and she was like Chicago we're having a great time All right, sir, your name, your question. Brian, and so an urban legend is Michael Jordan took a year away to do baseball because he was gambling on basketball. And this was an agreement with the commissioner.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Now, in this movie, he cheats in every sport that he participates in. Do you think that was a good marketing tool for him? Amazing question. Here's what he doesn't do, gamble on any of those sports, right? No, he gambles in all of them. Oh, he does? Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah, I guess he does. That's interesting. So, because that was another thing that I wasn't, because this movie, again, didn't hit me because I was too old for it, I was removed a bit. This is, is this in the era where he is playing baseball or has he already moved on from that and it's commenting on him playing baseball? Comments. One of you decide.
Starting point is 01:06:04 He's already won six championships at this point. No. After baseball. After baseball. He's gone to baseball. Has he gone to the Wizards yet? Hold on, hold on, hold on. No.
Starting point is 01:06:15 No, he came back to the, he came back and had the best season, right? Wait, wait, wait, wait, what's the fact that we need to know here? Certainly no over just a little bit. This is right after he came back from baseball. He won three championships previously. Got it.
Starting point is 01:06:31 So three championships, then he comes back and has like one of his best years after baseball, right? He comes back, can I start? I'm so sorry. Yeah, they have the, does he come back to the bowls? Yes. Okay, great, great, great. They have the 72 and 10 season, that still hasn't been beat.
Starting point is 01:06:44 All right, so that, yeah, so he comes back and kills it. So that's why he's willing to make fun of himself for the baseball debacle, right? Thank you. All right, man, your name and your question. My name is Rebecca. And my question is, so during the halftime show, Wayne Knight's character goes into the Mon-stars locker room to spy, and I'm
Starting point is 01:07:08 wondering what he was trying to gain. Yeah, because it wasn't like they were playing great basketball. Yeah, they were like on the court. The idea that he would try to go in there to understand like certain plays or strategy is absurd. It's just massive chaos out there. Okay, well here's my other question too. Michael Jordan becomes a cartoon at the end of the movie. Wait, what? At what point?
Starting point is 01:07:38 When his arm reaches out like 30 feet? Yes. Well, yes. That point. That they're in loony tunes world in which the long and husbands, the laws of physics do not, or the 3D world's physics do not apply. It's time to get a little loony. And such a good quote.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It's time to get a little loony. We have one Monstars person in the crowd. I see you're wearing her mon stars jersey, so we will end it with you, ma'am, your name, your question. Hi, my name is Portia, and I was wondering, are we having? No. Portia.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Portia from Real Housewives of Atlanta? Obviously. Obviously. Portia the car? So the Looney Tunes obviously live underground. Marvin the Martian lives on another planet, which is Mars, which exists in our solar system. Are we to assume that he lives underground,
Starting point is 01:08:38 or is Mars different from Earth? Well, here's a good question. So you're saying, is there a Mars underground? Because even when the looney twos are underground, there's sky and air and water and everything else. Yes. Yes, so there is a Mars. So the Mars in the Martian lives on a Mars
Starting point is 01:08:57 that exists in the solar system at the core of our Earth, where all of the looney tunes exists. So at the Earth's core is the looney tunes universe, which is underground. When Bugs Bunny goes underground in looney tunes world, I don't think it's our earth. He's in their ecosystem, and the solar system like space,
Starting point is 01:09:26 loony-dune space exists within the core of Earth. Right? Our space is where Danny DeVito lives. Right? Because we leave our planet, go into outer space, there's a neon sign that points us towards Danny's a veto's planet, but then in order to get the looney tunes we have to go back into our earth, down, down, down, down, down, down, pass through the Warner Brothers logo. Yes, through the Warner Brothers logo into looney tunes space.
Starting point is 01:09:58 That's correct. But not everyone passes through the looney tunes logo. Well, some people are just brought to set by producers. And there is some sort of deal where they're able to broadcast and get those broadcasts live transmitted from space. Wow, this movie is deeper than I thought. Did you guys know that there was actually a space jam video game as well? Show you a little...
Starting point is 01:10:24 I'll be honest, I only knew about the video game. So you can kind of, you can just kind of check a look at what was going on there, which here we got people down. So this is the kind of a great play action you get. Michael Jordan. Oh, I get it. Buzz, brother! It's a lot of... We're all movies made into video games at this time. A lot, yeah. A lot, we're okay.
Starting point is 01:10:56 So here's something, everything is loading, okay. Oh, it's not even a basketball game. Look! They're in Michael Jordan's house trying to steal a sneakers. That's part a basketball game. Look at that. Woohoo! Woohoo! They're in Michael Jordan's house, trying to steal a sneakers. That's part of the game. That's disturbing. Oh, you found a lot of sneakers.
Starting point is 01:11:14 You found some shorts. This is a weird game. There's a plot based game, not an NBA game. Oh, here we go. Everybody in Looney Tune land as well as more on business. I mean, here's the, can I say something about the sneakers? It is interesting. Like, the movie is a commercial.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I'm like, I understand this based on commercial and stuff, but it really does posit a world in which Michael Jordan has no talent unless he's wearing sneakers. Well, he was wearing his golf shoes. So he couldn't, you know, he was sticking to the floor. I thought he was wearing, because when he gets sucked into the loony-tune world, aren't the golf shoes left up there?
Starting point is 01:11:56 One is, one's on, one's off. OK, so when he's down in loony-tune world, he has one shoe on. Yeah. Well, it's hard to do anything with one shoe on. Of course. That's how he's like, let me hard to do anything with one shoe on. Of course. That's why he's like, let me get me my shoes. Here's what I'm saying is he could probably
Starting point is 01:12:10 still play basketball with. Well, he's used to also be like, let me see if I remember it. Oh, the thing that you're amazing at better than anyone in the world you might have forgotten how to do. Like, even on a simple level, I think that what kind of blew my mind was that he gambled his family. That was traveling.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Yeah. And I thought for sure, now listen, I was so excited to see Bill Murray again, a crazy Bill Murray fan over here. Just, I love him so much. I was so happy to see him, but I assumed that we were going to see Michael Jordan's son at the end. And I assumed we would tie that in and that he would come play somehow and he would... Well, he doesn't ever want to have his son be better than him.
Starting point is 01:13:00 How could he retain his masculinity and manhood if this sum was better than him or something? What are you saying? If this sum was better at baseball, he was already jealous of him. Did you... Okay. Leave it there. I've been here a little while. Leave it there.
Starting point is 01:13:23 We have heard from the Toon Squad. We have heard from the tune squad. We have heard from the monsters. And now it's time to hear a different opinion. It's now time for second opinions. I relived my childhood while rewatching this. Just a half-pulled June and Jason Man to cast Go criticize it while I still prize it I will leave it five stars
Starting point is 01:13:57 Space Jam really raised the bar And if you tell me this was not a win I'm going leave five stars again It's my second opinion Well, I think that it's the only one I will leave it five stars I will leave it five stars. I will leave it five stars I will leave it five stars Give it up for Eyes it well done
Starting point is 01:14:34 All right, those were amazing songs now let's get into the reviews 2784 reviews for this film, 77% are five star. This one is the title is MJ's Ultimate Gift to the World. This movie... Okay, wait, we're... Michael Jordan's Ultimate Gift to the World? Is Space Jam?
Starting point is 01:15:17 This movie is definitely in my top 37 of all time. Sorry, Paul, is this the review or is this you speaking? Space Jam is Michael Jordan's gift to the world. I don't believe in coincidences. Every person is placed on this earth to fulfill a specific purpose. Before being able to star in this film, Michael Jordan at the first get cut
Starting point is 01:15:44 from his high school basketball team, vowed to become the best star in this film, Michael Jordan at the first get cut from a high school basketball team, vowed to become the best player in the world, make over 100 free throws per practice when the NCAA championship then three-peat NBA championships, then try to play baseball, then come back to make this movie in the middle of his second three-peat. MJ had to have all these things happen for Space Jam to exist, which is
Starting point is 01:16:06 arguably better than his entire NBA career because it has Bugs Bunny and Bill Murray five stars. That's amazing. Review number two, from D. Mackie, Michael's secret stuff. I don't get this movie, but my boys 10, 12, and 16 all like it, and that's what matters. Five stars. Ha ha ha! Precious jewel rights always love the movie, ordered it because my husband wouldn't stop talking about it. But then when we saw it was on Who-Who the same day, I picked it up from the post office. Oh, LOL. Well, I guess it's great for if the Wi-Fi goes down or on road trips or long flights, five stars.
Starting point is 01:17:08 How much are they planning on watching it? I guess it's good to have a physical backup in case you need to see Space Jam. But it's like a storm. Yeah, there's a natural disaster. Or you're in like a country that doesn't have the streaming that can, that can accommodate as a human. You need a hard copy.
Starting point is 01:17:34 You gotta have that hard copy. You gotta have that hard copy. It happens. Thomas W. writes, five stars, no questions asked. Michael Jeffrey Jordan is the greatest human athlete to ever grace our courts and our silver screen. America. Five stars.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Wow. This is from JWW. The basketball fan of me was appalled by the number of obvious flagrant fouls committed in the game by both sides, which went uncalled by referee Marvin the Martian. And the fact the clock operators seem to be sleeping
Starting point is 01:18:13 seriously, five seconds passed in the movie while only one second came off the clock. But this movie requires a lot of suspension of disbelief. Five stars. Oh, you think? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think this movie that takes place in Looney Tunes land requires some suspension
Starting point is 01:18:36 of disbelief. And then finally, this is from Anne Frye and she writes, love this movie. Anne Frank. Frye. Anne Frye and she writes, love this movie. Anne Franke. Frye. Anne Frye. Love this movie, so cute. I'm not a basketball fan, but I do know Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Charles Barkley.
Starting point is 01:18:55 The other three, I'm sorry to say, I don't know them. Five stars. That's great. Jason, June, we talked about how damn popular this movie was. We know how much it made. We are disagreeing about the jam. The tagline was, get ready to jam. Why? Why get ready to jam. Why? Why? Get ready to jam?
Starting point is 01:19:26 And the other tagline was together, they might just save the world. Nope, that's not part of the movie at all. It's the world. No idea the world was in peril. Also, which world? Looney Toon's world? Our world? Who knows.
Starting point is 01:19:43 A couple of hidden things that you might not know, but for fun to mention, the monolith from 2001 is in the movie when they're flying towards Moron Mountain. You can see that flying past them. And when the Aman stars as little creatures go to the basketball game, they are dressed just like Tom Baker from Doctor Who, wearing the exact same scarf. Michael Jordan would not agree to do the sequel, so it was canceled. Until now, they released many versions of these sneakers. There are an Air Jordan mid-Lola, there's an Air Jordan mid-hair because Bugs Bunny is an honorary member of the Jordan brand. So there are many Bugs Bunny and Lola bunny shoes out there. And finally, last but not least,
Starting point is 01:20:36 I will say this, that the Space Jam site is the same that it has been since the film was released. Never updated online, just go to space jams Steller souvenir is just like stellar skateboard exactly you you can click on that and you can go here and watch Screen savers sound clips post cards. This key guys. I need you to understand This is what the internet used to look like This for me looks what the internet used to look like. This, for me, looks like the internet. Wow. Oh, there's the gun.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Junior Dan, the kids await you at the Looney Tune Land. Click different parts of the picture for lots of funs and games. Coloring book, you can just color it in. Have fun with that. So definitely check out the spacejam.com website. Wow. Jason, June, would you recommend this movie? Jason, first. Boof.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Ah, boy, I don't know. This is a tough one. I know this movie's beloved, and I know this is like, for a lot of people, this movie was important at an age when they were growing up, and this was meaningful to them. This was a pile of turds for me. It was neither good nor so bad. It was good.
Starting point is 01:21:54 It was just kind of a commercial. It was a long commercial for like everything. And listen, like I said, I'm much more into looney tunes, so it wasn't enough of that instead of the, it was much more NBA basketball, all that stuff than the looney tunes stuff which I would have preferred. I would have preferred more space be given to the Marvin the Martians, to the Sylvester and Tweety's, to all of those characters that for me I grew up on. So the answer is, no thank you, pass. Or thank you next.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Diane Rayfield. Yeah, I mean, I feel the same, except I would have preferred more of the NBA players. And I would have preferred learning a bit more about them, spending a little bit more time in that house. So you were the right to gotten out of the looney tunes and just see a basketball player. Yeah, I wanted to be a part of that town
Starting point is 01:22:50 and see where all those kids dispersed to. You wanted to be part of the town where Michael Jordan's playing triple A ball. Yeah, and I actually loved, I agree, the house was not. It made no sense that a man who made that much money lived in that home, but I did like that house and found it very comforting in like a father of the bride type of way.
Starting point is 01:23:15 It looked like that house to me. You wanted me to kind of see like a father of the bride with Michael George. Oh. Oh. I love the movie, Father the Bride. By the way, if that's the movie, I'm in. I mean, I'm also in two movie in which Michael Jordan moves
Starting point is 01:23:30 to a small town in America in order to have a family, play baseball, have a kid who plays baseball, et cetera, et cetera. And it's never cartoon world. Oh my God. I'm okay with that. For a split second. When they were piling out of that minivan, I thought his wife was played by Regina King for just like two seconds. And I was so excited. I love her so much. Sure. And I thought, wow, I had no idea that this movie existed. And I am
Starting point is 01:24:00 about to watch her play his wife and I cannot wait. And then it fell apart pretty quickly. But that other movie I would have loved to have seen. Well, for me, I disagree with both of you. I wanted to see more of Moron Mountain. How do they run it? What are the rides? What's the infrastructure? Well, you love theme parks.
Starting point is 01:24:19 You love the theme parks. You're three favorite theme parks. Are Disneyland. Yep. Moron Mountain. And the one in the adventures of Pinocchio love theme parks, your three favorite theme parks are Disneyland, more on mountain. And the one in the adventures of Pinocchio where all the bad boys get turned into Donkeys. It's totally true, it's called Pleasure Island, it's lovely, as long as you don't go on the ride. Cause it'll turn you into a donkey
Starting point is 01:24:39 or whatever corresponding animal you're acting like. Anyway, no big deal. I agree, I was very excited to watch this movie. I got very nervous that we picked the wrong movie based on the reaction that I got online. And now I'm confident we picked the right movie. Space Jam, file this under. You're wrong. Thank you Chicago! We did it Chicago! Thank you Chicago. What a great night. Thank you Chicago! We did it Chicago! Thank you Chicago. What a great night. Thank you to Avril Haley, our movie pick and producer,
Starting point is 01:25:12 who is always finding us the best films. And you know what? Space Jam was one that we really definitely need to do. Also, our Chicago Theatre staff and audience guys, there were some issues in Chicago. There are some audience issues in Chicago. I appreciate all of you for all your confusion. It was not us.
Starting point is 01:25:31 We tried to deal with them the best way we possibly could. I think Ticket Masters stepped up there and really helped out a lot of people as well. But it seemed like a real clusterfuck for a couple of people. And I really wanna apologize once again, but I think the end result is that we need to come back to Chicago. We love Chicago. We will be back in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:25:50 A big thanks to Nate Kylie, who by the way has a beautiful baby and is still pulling research down and just killing it all times. Thank you Nate. Thank you for everyone in Chicago. Treated us so good. All the amazing restaurants we went to when we were there. We really did. We did it up and we loved it.
Starting point is 01:26:08 We love Chicago. Oh my gosh. So good, so good, so good. And I guess what I want to say to you is this. If you want to wear something that says, how does it get made on head to teapubble.com, slash stores, slash HTTGM. And if you want to talk more about this, give me a call on our new mini episodes at 619 P.A.U.L
Starting point is 01:26:28 ASK that's 619 Paul ask and we'll talk about your life or we can talk about this movie Either way, you can leave messages for either one. We will deal with it all and then Finally, I want to just say to all of you Space Jam isn't good. All right, we'll see you next week on How Did This Get Made? How Did This Get Made? I'm here, love.
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