How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Tango & Cash (w/ Nick Kroll)

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

Nick Kroll (Big Mouth, History of the World: Part II) returns for his 3rd guest appearance to discuss the 1989 Sly Stallone & Kurt Russell buddy cop flick Tango & Cash. The HDTGM crew cover Jack Palan...ce's maze, the newspaper headlines, the bizarre shower scene, and Sly & Kurt's will-they-won't-they high-five relationship. Plus, June disagrees with a 2nd Opinion review on the issue of on-screen naked male butts. (Originally released 01/23/2015)For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheerGo to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 More homoeroticism than an episode of HBO's Looking, we saw Tango and Cash, so you know what that means. How did sports and niggas grow baby in this belly like a rhinestone vest while whipping Justin the Kelly or maybe see a burlesque show with Nick Crowe and take a boba sweet to hitting cruise control. Jayman, Big Paul and the beautiful Jew, gonna take you from the groove all the way to the room. Random games and street fighter helped to blow off steam, just a sucker punched the odd light for Timothy Green. Shock, needle, the bird, damage, how we staying alive, they call it in the bad ass and he's on the line cranking 88 minutes cause they cool his ass, cause the bad Jim Barney looking kind of nice. Paul and Judy and literal Jason is getting laid, Junas making sure all the monkey shots getting paid, they judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade, here's a real question for you, how did this get made? Hello people of Earth and welcome to How'd This Get Made, that is our brand new theme song by Haru, that's where I'm pronouncing that right, okay Haru, thank you that is amazing. Haru is here in the room, he's not on mic, but we've pronounced it right, we've been told.
Starting point is 00:01:14 That is actually great, I've heard that song now three times and there's new things in it each time that I pick up, I am joined as always by Jason Manzukis, how are you Jason? I'm good Paul, how are you? Very good, Jun, Diane the question is the same to you, how are you? I'm doing great, how are you? I'm great and joining us for a record setting third time, he was on episode one and now on episode 101, please welcome back, Nick Kroll. You can ask me how I'm doing. Was we both rushed to get the mad decent at that? I was like, I can't get there fast enough. Nick, welcome back. No, no, no, please, everybody now expects the water pour, pour a loud glass of water, Jun. You feel like you're in here with us. When I was here on episode one, there wasn't this disrespectful water pouring during my intro questioning. Did you think we'd make it somewhere? I don't think that app had been invented either. No, we talked about this before, when you did 101 six years ago, number one six years ago with us, which is when we did it. When apps were a new thing. People are still on Palm Pilots. My Palm Trio. Nick, you're back and the Kroll show is back. Yes. Just tell everybody one that is airing. Kroll show airs Tuesday nights at 10 30 on Comedy Central. And it's got big Jason Manzook. Big J. Big J. M is up in there. Big Paul. Paul, I'm assuming this. Mark XYZ.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yes, this will probably be passed. I mean, obviously, the world will be different. And I'm assuming that how did this get made podcast? We'll get that Kroll show bump. Yeah, we were hoping for. Yeah. Obviously, when June was on the show season one, you guys got that Kroll show bump. We always get that Kroll show bump. Jason brought the Kroll show bump. Jason was there last year and got that Kroll show bump. Boom. A lot of people. A lot of people tune in. They see Eagle Wing and they're like, I want to know that guy's podcast. I got to figure out how to spell his name and then Google it and then find out that he's got a podcast. Well, you're back. It's the third final season. And it's from the stuff I've seen from stuff I've heard about. It sounds amazing. It sounds like you can't get any better. You can't get any better. No, it's I'm very, very, very pleased with it. And I would love if it possible at some point. And this would be breaking format. But I think I've already made the decision that we're going to do it. Yeah. Is for Bob, Bobby Bottleservice made a movie this year called The In addition tos, sort of his version of the expendables. And I think we should do a how did this get made?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Oh, my God, I would love to do that dream of dream. Can we do it with Bobby could come in and do it at some point. That'd be very fun. I would love to do that. But I would imagine the In addition to share some similarities with this movie that we're going to be talking about today. Yes, there is. There is some crossover. So Bobby Bottleservice is in that movie. He wrote, he directed and he starred in it. Yeah. And and so did Eagle Wing, who is a friend of Jason Manzukas, as well as Chelsea Paredi as Farley and C.T. from the challenge who was also in Jigalore horse already aired on Comedy Central. And Comedy Central on Time Warner, what cable channel is that? Until let's go through all the channels. And then also on Dish and also on Direct TV. Just so our listeners know. I'm an ATTUverse guy and I want to know. Where my charter heads at? Let me just say. Cox Cable. I'm going to be real honest here and say that Comedy Central's got a pretty great app and you can kind of watch all the shows. Yeah. You don't even need provider. Why do you prefer we watch it? I love it just in gifts. Now, you are. This is the end of the show. You are wrapping it up. Yes. But it will come back for a season four of only gifts. Am I correct? Yes. So that will be next year will just be a season of gifts. It's kind of like the odd future show. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what I'm God willing. We'll see what happens. If there's programmers out there, start those gifts now because you'd need a lot of gifts to fill half hour and like eight or nine and a half hours. It's a lot of gifts. Yeah. Yeah. But if you go by act break, it's just like eight minutes for the first act. That's a good. You know, so that's what? 9,000 gifts per person.
Starting point is 00:05:45 All right. Let's talk about this movie, Tango and Cash. I just want to first say that I never saw this movie. Like I've heard that this is like the worst movie. It's ridiculed like Ishtar, Tango and Cash. Really? They're kind of thrown around as like. Oh, I didn't know it was that. Me neither. Considered that much of a failure. Oh, yeah. Not even a failure as more of a like a. Just a piece of shit. Yeah. Piece of shit. Like this is like why and the backstory on it is like amazing. I always get this movie confused with Tequila Sunrise. Oh, man. That's a sexy movie. Mel Gibson and Kurt Russell, right? And Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah. That movie. I for a minute, I thought that was this and I was like, well, wait a minute, isn't this movie good? Yeah. And then I started watching it. I was like, oh, this is a very different movie. I will say that I've never seen a movie that starts and I had to rewind it for June where before the credit start, Stallone goes, OK, let's do this. And then the music kicks in like that is height of power. That's the height of hubris. I was going to say it is hubris. OK, let's do it. It's the same hubris that allows him to call Rambo a pussy and call somebody else in the movie Cone and the Barbarian. Yes. He just thinks Stallone is at like just full strength at this point. It's interesting because this is one of the few films Stallone did that he does not get attributed writing credit for. Thank God. Which is really kind of bizarre. And I wonder if he took his name off of it because he puts his name on everything. You might not know this, Nick, but we've covered this in the past. The book that the movie Cobra is based on Stallone tried to have himself put on a reprint of the book as the author of the book because he said he did so much for the book.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I think so. I think the thought was people will buy the book because it's based on the movie, so he should get a little bit of that money. Oh, is the movie the book was based on the movie? No, the movie was based on the book, but you would see them. But under Sly is like, no, I mean, you know, the book is based on a movie he came out before, but you know. I can say I thought he looked. I thought both of them looked great. Yeah. How old do you think they are in this movie? Well, the movie came out in 89. I would put them at around 38. Yeah, I think they got to be 40. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:08:08 But I don't know. I thought a little bit younger. All right, Stallone was born. Let's see. I was trying to figure it out. I was like, what age are these guys in there? How much of this is in their prime versus starting to be older guys? I felt like they were both in their prime. Yeah. Oh, I mean, Kurt Russell, by the way, always looks like he's in his prime. He does. He really just looks great. And his hair is another entity. Number one on the call sheet. Gorgeous. It's so beautifully wide and blockish.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yes, it just grows out. I felt like he was wearing like a lot of boat neck, wide necked T's and traps. It looked great. Yeah, somebody was like, you need a scoop neck. Yeah, a lot of scoops. Well, I think that... Scoop that neck. And Paul, you've done probably a little more research, but I'm pretty sure that somehow Henley shirts are partly paid for the movie.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And it does feel like Tenure on Cash is subject to Big Henley, you know what I mean? Well, it's interesting that the movie kind of there, they are a mismatched couple of cops. Just to give you the ages, Stallone 43, Kurt Russell 38. Okay, got it. Okay. Which kind of makes sense. They are mismatched cops, but a lot of how they are seen as mismatched is how button-up and crisp Stallone is in Armani suits and how down and dirty Kurt Russell is in jeans and a henley. But here's the thing that I have a real issue with.
Starting point is 00:09:40 The movie is about two mismatched cops. Besides the clothing, there is nothing that really differentiates these two cops. Like Stallone is apparently very rich from being a stockbroker slash cop or not being an investor in stocks. That was the craziest side plot. That's just a prototype, but you don't see it every time. The cop is playing the stocks? Not only playing the stocks, that to me is interesting, but playing the stocks and spending money on very fine suits and driving beautiful cars. And people are like, you're rich. You're a Beverly Hills cop, so you're rich. You're a Beverly Hills cop.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Well, that's interesting. But by the way, that's what I was going to bring up. Beverly Hills Cop, that movie works ultimately because it's like the button-up of Judge Reinhold and John Ashton and Ronnie Cox versus Eddie Murphy. That's two different types of people. Beverly Hills Cop, a movie originally meant to star Stallone. And that became Cobra. And Tango and Cash with music that was just one slight note off of Beverly Hills Cop. By the same guy, Harold Faulkner.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But that's a difference of characters. The way they make it is Kurt Russell is an inner city cop, and he's a Beverly Hills cop. But they both investigate crime the same fucking crazy way. They're also both making drug busts. They're both drug narcotics detectives. It's not like one of them is white collar busting, fat cats or something, and one's street level. They are doing the same job just in different outfits. And then this movie, any sort of bus. I've been now alive for a long period of time.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Well, look, I've seen a lot of things come to go. How long have you been alive? Look, let me say that when I was born, Coleco Vision was something that the kids played. And now we're all the way into the Xbox ones. Anyway, I don't want to get into it. You consider yourself age-wise in terms of gaming console. Yes. I'm four 3DOs.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Because I remember when we had your DS birthday. Yes. Oh, that's a good one. A very good one. Not as good as the Atari Lynx birthday. The deep, deep hole from there. You jerked off to Echo the Dolphin. Well, who did it? That's how you control the game. But the thing that I loved clearly, there was a lot of problems with the edits.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And they needed to cut to newspapers, and I've never seen any newspaper I've ever read with a cop next to cocaine. Yeah, those guys were more, honestly, they were in more newspaper headlines than anyone in Los Angeles, it would seem. Constantly. Constantly. For everything from, I mean, I get it when they get framed and are sent to jail because they're great cops, but they are constantly being written about
Starting point is 00:12:37 in terms of their exploits as if they are the biggest people in the world. But then when they escape prison, spoiler alert, they walk around Los Angeles and nobody recognizes them. No, at all. And by the way, you can assume that there are probably great cops right now. I've never read a story about like a super, like there's no super cop. Well, the newspaper game has changed, Paul. It's all digital now.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's all digital now, that's very true. Maybe I should read a BuzzFeed slideshow about the best cops in Los Angeles. By the way, we are doing BuzzFeed slideshows on How Did This Get Made Now. We are covering BuzzFeed slideshows. How did this get made? Oh my gosh. That's actually what Kroll Show is going to be next year. It's all, it's moving to BuzzFeed.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah, it's a BuzzFeed slideshow. It's a listicle. One of the best things in the beginning of the movie that I thought was going to be explained was we open up on Stallone, he's driving down this desert highway and delivering lines like he's on a flatbed with no energy at all. But he's trying to take down this like tanker truck and he opens up his revolver because that's, I guess, one of the defining things. He's like a revolver, like an old school snub-nosed revolver.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Dumps out the bullets, takes special bullets, and then fires him. He's like, well, what are these special bullets? Because he just fires it a glass window where those bullets are not capable of puncturing glass. Yeah, who knows? I didn't understand that. They never explained what those special bullets were. The weird thing about the movie is, like you said,
Starting point is 00:13:59 you never get a sense of what is different about these two. Like, is this guy great at shooting? Does he have a great eye? He doesn't shoot either of the people in the truck. Right, and is the other guy, you know, is Kurt Russell like super, you know, persuasive and interrogation? They both seem to be sort of just cops. I would point. I don't want to be the nate.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Just cops. Are you still writing that show? By the way, I also would, I don't know if you guys have read the script, it's unproduced still at this point, but Stocks Cop is actually a great, yeah, that was Sylvester. Sylvester. By the way, don't you get, don't you get, don't you get the sense that Sylvester Sloan was like,
Starting point is 00:14:40 I love this character. Right, well he's like, I would play the dumb guy forever, and now I'm gonna be the smart guy now. I bet he was offered the other part first. And he was offered the other part first, and he was like, no, I want to play the smart guy. I'm gonna take down Rambo. Like, he takes down his own kid.
Starting point is 00:14:58 But by the way, and this is the weird thing, he never uses that intelligence to get them out, or his knowledge of stocks. I thought we were gonna come back at some point. To me, I'm like, he should say like, he goes, Rambo is pussy. But it's like, no, in this guy, like, he would say like, Rambo is a monosyllabic beast. Like, I am an, you know, like, what's the difference?
Starting point is 00:15:21 He does, he's just wearing a shirt. Rambo doesn't wear glasses, Paul. I don't know how many times, which by the way, he ditches about halfway through the movie. Those glasses are gone, when they go to prison. When they go to prison, they are indistinguishable from each other. Yeah, Rambo loses glasses, or he loses glasses, and then all of a sudden he's wearing like a crucifix.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah, crucifix. I feel like, yeah, go ahead. No, here's the weird thing about them going to prison. So they go to prison. Because they're set up. They're set up. By Jack Palance. Jack Palance playing a poor man's Jack Nicholson,
Starting point is 00:15:50 which I've never really known, right? Like, he really felt like that. I mean, Jack Palance, by the way, you and I looked at each other at the end, and I don't even understand what Jack Palance is doing. I don't know. I was gonna, I had that too. I don't know what he, I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:03 I guess he's an arms dealer and a drug dealer, I guess. But like, I don't know what the master plan is. The master plan is like, there's some facility where he's just collecting all of it. Well, yeah. That's just what was really weird, too. So they're framed for the murder of a federal agent? Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:19 So they go to prison for 18 months. Well, yeah. Because they plead no contest. Does that mean the case? By the way, I would just. But still. I would just go back quickly and just, I don't want to be the naysayer.
Starting point is 00:16:31 You guys have a great show here. You got a great show. Very popular. Go ahead. Hit it up on iTunes. Speak plainly. Go to the podcast. How come the podcast generally?
Starting point is 00:16:39 They're already listening. They're already listening to this show. Go check out the podcast. How come the podcast ended? Oh, Mikro came on and he blew the whole thing up. Okay, go ahead. They're all here. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So it's great. It's actually great. It's a lot of great episodes. There have been a lot of great guest stars. You've come and done the show. Amazing. Go ahead. Well, not a hundred because I've come back a few times.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, we had to really kind of. I started out for the last. And then obviously came through for a lot. Kelly and Justin. Kelly and Justin. Shout out twice in the remix. Yeah. A couple different, anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And also you had some nice appearances in the best of episodes. Yeah, anyway, that's not the point. The point is that what you guys are doing here is talking about movies and how did they get made? Yeah. Sure. Right, right, right. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And? That's it. So I didn't want to break momentum. I just wanted to get that. No. No. Hang on. That really makes me think.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I would just apart. You guys keep saying that they're quite different. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are that they're not different enough. I would point to the court scene. Yeah. Where Sylvester Stallone gets up and he's like, hey, respectfully.
Starting point is 00:17:40 You know, I love the cops. You know, you know, come out there. And then Kurt Russell. Yeah. Doesn't have control of his emotions. He really does. And he screams. He's a wild coast.
Starting point is 00:17:51 He screams what the fuck or whatever. And then fucking sucks is what he says. He says, this fucking sucks. Yeah. And gets a round of applause. And a round of applause, which makes me go, is anyone against these guys? Like, I don't like, they're not even setting up. I couldn't figure out it was, there was such, such bullshit police work was done in this
Starting point is 00:18:09 movie. I was like, we need to call Sarah Cone again and do a serial on this court case. Yes. How these guys were written. And next season of Serial is about a fictional crime in the movie Tango and Cat. Calling Tango and Cat on the phone. This is it. My favorite thing about how they were framed was that, so there's a tape made.
Starting point is 00:18:28 There's a tape made that sort of mashes their voices together. So it sounds like they're having a conversation with a guy that they didn't murder, but it sounds like they have. The guy who runs that sound lab, who put that tape together. Yeah. What is that sound lab for? Oh yeah. So they basically, one of the reasons why they, why they are definitely put away is one of
Starting point is 00:18:51 the most damning pieces of evidence is this sound technician. It's an audio recording. And he's like, that is actually them. That's them. And then they're like, okay, great. That was it. That was, and there was no real rebuttal to it. I don't know what his day-to-day job is.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Some sort of. Folio expert. You know, it's, it's, he seemed to me, I bought it. He says at one point that he's the foremost audio expert and he's, he's been a witness at other trials. Sarah Coney would have a field day with this guy. What is his job? Well, I just was like.
Starting point is 00:19:24 He's like Gene Hackman in the conversation. He's like a, he's a surveillance audio expert. I don't know. I just kept wondering where Jay was. Like, why weren't we hearing more from Jay? Yeah. Where was Jay? Where was Jay in the trial?
Starting point is 00:19:40 Right, right, right. By the way, just before we get into the prison too. This is a movie where, and again, it reminds me of like, I guess a different time, the 80s where boobs were just. I was just going to say, boobs were out in full force in this movie. Except only for, only kind of anecdotally. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Like it's like their drive. There's a car chase in a parking garage in the morning. Yes. There's a morning car chase in a parking garage. In an apartment building. And they drive, one of the car smashes into a parked Volvo and a naked woman pops out of the back. Who is fucking in a Volvo in the morning in a parking garage?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Well, that's what I was saying. And it's a parking garage in an apartment building. So it's like, you would think, well, just go upstairs and fuck up, stay like, what's going on? My wife is here. My wife is here. Meet me in the Volvo downstairs. I'll...
Starting point is 00:20:34 I think it was also confusing because there's no real violence in the movie. I mean, you don't see blood a lot. You don't see like actual gore. So there's such a weird disparity between like, oh, there's sometimes boobs around. But no... There's also like real cursing. There's also a lot of very real cursing. You know?
Starting point is 00:20:51 So it's like... But that's just... Those kind of things aren't done anymore. I got to say, though, and I'm, I guess I'm just a nostalgia guy, but it was so great to see like 80s fake boobs. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, you know, we've become accustomed to a different kind of a fake boo in the 2000s.
Starting point is 00:21:09 They were natural boobs. Let's even talk about that strip club because I wasn't even sure it was a strip club. I wrote, is this a strip club? Because it starts out with a motorcycle backing out of a stage. Someone just done a show on a motorcycle. And it's huge. The place is enormous and has a fully mixed clientele. And yeah, men and women.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I don't think it was a strip club. What was it? I think it was a place where people go to watch dances. Tell me everything. Go. Like what? Look, I wish this place existed. It's a place you go when you're going on a date or you're out with your significant
Starting point is 00:21:44 other and you just want to watch dancing. You don't want to dance yourself. Wait, what about you? You want to have a nice cocktail and you want to sit down and you want to watch a show. You don't want to hear singing. You don't want to watch narrative. You just want to watch dance and drumming and electronic drumming because she a part of Terry Hatcher who is in this movie and we can kind of get to her relationship with
Starting point is 00:22:05 who cares. But Terry Hatcher, she comes out and she's dancing hardcore like really. She does take part of her outfit off. Yes, but not the full thing. And isn't that the conversation they have before she leaves where he's sort of implying that her dancing is not above board? Oh, I didn't catch that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I think there's some implication of like, let's keep it classy. Oh, I thought it was like, you got to take more off. Sly says that to her? Oh, Sly was saying that. Oh, I'm sorry. See, I didn't know who she was to Sly in the beginning and I thought, oh, that is that daughter. They want you to think they want that to be Sly.
Starting point is 00:22:38 But I was so obsessed with going, oh, that's his daughter. I thought it was his daughter as well. They want you to think that's his girlfriend. You know, that would kill Sly if you heard you say that. But Terry, I mean, he's like 43 and Terry Hatcher must have been like, Terry Hatcher must have been like 18. Yeah. Like, I mean, yeah, she was born in.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I love that place though. You love that place. You would like that club to exist. Yes. I would love that club to exist. You know what it is? It's like the modern version of the Xanadu club. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:23:08 It's where just dancing happens. And not really like a dance. You was 25. Terry Hatcher was 25. But sort of little acts of dancing, little like five. No, this was a strip club without, this was a strip club where women just didn't get naked. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But backstage. If they wanted it to be a strip club, they're fine with showing boobs. It would have just made it a strip club. But wait, but there was no, no, but no, did these exist at the, was there a time when clubs existed? You think this existed? Never. I wrote that down ago.
Starting point is 00:23:37 There has never been a time where a club like this existed. I don't know what it was. I think in the consciousness, there was like weird 80s performance art and like, well, it just felt like she looked like flash dance. Yes. Like it was like they like, you know, he liked flash dance and, and again, like with these movies, like Beverly Hills cop, they'd always go to a strip bar in the middle of it.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Like one or two, like, oh, let's go get a drink at this strip club. But this like, I wanted to, I think if we understood what the motorcycle act would was, we'd get a better idea. We only see the motorcycle coming off. She comes on like via a Stargate. Like she's coming out of a Stargate that like kind of is on like electric motors. And then Jen drums pop. Dude, all of these acts were not, all of the bits were not supposed to be sexy.
Starting point is 00:24:19 If they were, that was great. Hers was sexy. They were just, and they weren't necessarily supposed to be dramatic or comedic. They were just like, you just entertain. Has nobody here been to, has no one here been to a variety club? That's what it was. It is a variety club. And by the way, she drummed and, you know, what I love the authenticity of this movie
Starting point is 00:24:37 is they didn't force her to have rhythm in her drumming. Nope. It was awesome. I was going to say the outfit was pretty unflattering. She looked great in many other outfits. But on stage, she did not look good. One of my favorite parts of her and her whole persona was when they were in her apartment later on, there is a giant like movie poster sized picture of her in the corner like a
Starting point is 00:25:01 post shot of her like in her room. I didn't notice that. And it was just like a picture. When he points to the picture, he's like, yeah, those things are going to the club. But I do think this was during a time where the idea of like a career as a dancer meant something different. Yes. Where it wasn't like, oh, you're either a ballet dancer or you're a music video girl.
Starting point is 00:25:21 There was one other avenue. Well, this is the era of solid gold, right? 89? 89? 89? Post solid gold. Post solid gold slightly. But that's why she had a huge publicity shot of her.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Flash dance, you're right, Nick. Flash dance had this. It was still a time when somehow like contemporary dancing was something that was still watched or viewed. I don't know what, but this, it was enough. I mean, it was after it was done. I would say it is, I looked at solid gold is, but I guess it was like the remnants of solid gold.
Starting point is 00:25:53 This, I mean, I guess maybe. But she's also playing drums like that was she wasn't even mining drums. Like someone gave her sticks and she yells at that bartender was very apoplectic about a real hard time that bartender from every direction. Well, I think that I feel like that I don't know what order it came in, but it's possible. It was like, okay, so he's dating, he's dating a stripper. And then it's like, no, you know what? Let's make the twist that it's his sister and tango wants that, you know, and Kurt Russell's
Starting point is 00:26:25 going to want it. The sister. So they're like, okay, but we've already built the strip club, but there's no way Sly would let his sister be a stripper. Oh, so she's a dancer. Perfect. Done. But to me, Terry, hey, it's your agent.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Great news. You don't have to show your tips. But we can still get all the tips we want when he goes backstage and all the girls. By the way, just say if you are keeping track in the world of Stallone, tango's parents waited 18 years to have in between kids. Yeah. They had that. She was a real.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Oops. 18 years. They had a kid like when they were 20 and then 40. Real mistake there. Oh, I don't know how we, this was a huge mistake. Also want to get into a little bit of Jack Plants, who is, I agree, like a poor man's Jack Nicholson, he, they give him this monologue at the beginning where, oh my God, he takes out two rats, he's like, this is tango, this is cash.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And then he tells the story about these rats. And then he goes, you know, and then next week when all the drugs and money are going to be here, they're going to be behind bars. And then he puts them in a maze. He has a maze. He has a maze in his office. Yes. A rat maze built into a table in his office.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Which I love, but also it's not really completing the metaphor. Like you think he's going to get these two rats and then kill them. No. But he's like, and then they're going to be in jail or a maze. That is still some place that's tough to get out of. Well because they could, well I was going to say like, well I was going to say like, what would a rat jail be? And then you're like, oh, a cage.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yep. Like he could have put them in two separate cages and it would have been, that's what jail is. He literally goes behind bars and then puts them in a maze. It's like, you could have put any different ver adjectives to be like, we're going to, you know, we'll never get out. We're at the very end though, when they were driving those trucks through that compound. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 That's when I thought the metaphor. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. So now. But they were never supposed to get there. Well, that's what I'm saying. Oh yeah. Did he have the foresight?
Starting point is 00:28:47 Well, he had foresight enough to not only, this guy loves mazes, to not only have a maze worked out and have all those other guys with all those other trucks with rocket launchers on them. But he also was able to enable a self-destruct function to his entire warehouse and have someone record an announcement for it that says, facility destruct, destruct sequence. Now engaged. Who recorded that? The sound lab guy.
Starting point is 00:29:15 What? What? I laughed so hard at that. It was like, it's like a scene out of Star Trek when they blow up the Enterprise at Star Trek and they're like, that's the only time I've ever seen a self-destruct for a building? Yes. Why would you ever have a self-destruct? Get rid of the evidence.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Get rid of the evidence. And why do you need to announce it? And it's 11 minutes away. Self-destruct now engaged. You have 11 minutes. That was like that. That's a very long time. I would argue that, so whoever was the production designer was very territorial and very sure
Starting point is 00:29:45 about what he was doing because it was like, no, look, the bar is a club and there's the stage and it raises and there's a ramp and everything moves back with the fan and everything. Also, the office where Jack Palance's office is going to feel like a club too. There's going to be a bar, his desk is going to be raised on a stage, there's going to be a lot of glassware on Shell Glass. Oh my God. That worked because we have a guy who loves to kick Glass Shells and so we just cast him as a bad guy so he can come in, he can kick all the Glass Shells.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Perfect. And he's going to have a whole room full of glass like, enter the dragon, anyway, we'll get into that later. I wrote down here, I hate this set designer because there's a bunch of questions and his name is J. Michael River and apparently he's done some great stuff, Django Unchained, Iron Man, Spider-Man. Wow. Like he's done a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:38 But in this movie, he had lost his mind because there's a scene where, these are my two examples I really want to talk about, where Kurt Russell walks into the bathroom where there are police lockers next to a urinal and then there's a table and chairs next to that. So it would be like, dude cops is going, ah fuck, I'll just sit down in this chair and face the urinals. It was like putting like a kitchen table next to a urinal, like, but they needed the kitchen table because he needed to like. In fairness to J. Michael River, I feel like that was just a production quandary.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Like I don't. He did Goonies too. This guy has a lot of very solid things. They're probably just like, we can only do this in one set and we already have the locker room. So yeah, this is where the. Yeah. We just need to put a table in here.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Well then I've been out. Then the other one I'll talk about is in the prison when Stallone and Kurt Russell will get into the prison. When they're kidnapped and put into the laundry room, there's a big fight in the prison laundry room. But then there are also ourselves in the laundry room too, because guys, the arms are like, yeah. So who built the prison?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Like, ah, yeah, we'll just keep them in the, like they don't have. And the laundry room is like the size of an airplane hanger and there are cells built into it. So it's like, oh, where are you? I'm on sub luck to you. Where are you? Oh, I'm in the laundry. I'm in the laundry room.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm in the laundry room cells. I mean, it's very probably, you know, but honestly, I would die for the shower setup that they had in jail. Like if I had that shower, like they had like multiple, they had plenty of space. They had beautiful. Nobody else was in it, right, because they, why, by the way, why did they have the showers themselves? Because they were like, taking a really like, it's like, all right, before you guys get
Starting point is 00:32:20 the prison, just take a nice long private shower. So long. They give them so much private time together. Yes. For people that are about to be set up to be killed. They give them all the time in the world to chat, hang out. They seem to be able to move to and from each other's cells. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I want to actually play the clip where they are in the showers because it's one of the best, like the who's on first of this movie is a dick size argument. And just to set the scene, they've been taking the shower for a long time and you'll understand what's happening. But if I just tell you that at one point, Kurt Russell bends over and still, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So that's what we're kind of coming in on. So here you go.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I don't know yet. Yeah. You don't know. Shit. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Relax.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Soap. And don't flatter yourself. Pee-wee. I don't know you that well. Don't worry, Cash. Someday the other one will drop. And avoid tripod. You just keep talking.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You're a thing, Minnie Mouse. Okay. Classic. Yeah. Question. Well, is it classic though? Because I'm confused. Is it true?
Starting point is 00:33:31 When someone, maybe this is going to, I'm going to be real too much, but when someone has a bar of soap and they bend down. The bending over person is the one who's going to be violated, not the person that he's going to pick up the bar of soap. He's going to pick it up, but he's bending down to pick it up. Right. The implication is that Kurt Russell's going to bend down and suck on Sly's knob. Oh, I thought.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Oh, okay. I think that's that. But that's not the classic soap thing. That's another question. It's a play. And guys, I don't want to be the contrarian. It's a play on the who dropped the soap thing. It's a play on it?
Starting point is 00:34:03 Okay. It's a play on it. Well, the thing that I had the bigger issue with, and this is, I thought, you're going to bring it up, when someone is called tripod, that means that they have a very big dick. Well, my guess is that my guess is that Sly couldn't let it lie with being called pee wee. So then they had to like do another one where he called him tripod. So then you're confused about whether he's got a really is a very strange.
Starting point is 00:34:24 He calls him small dick and then immediately calls him big dick. Right. And then later on they talk about his dick later. I mean, he has a mini mass or something like that. Yeah. And like, and they really are examining each other's dicks. Like they, it seems like too much dick, like there's the gay panic in this movie is very bizarre and unsettling.
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's constant and it's constantly a joke. It's, well, I would say it's not, I don't know if it's gay panic because it's almost like a gay. It's like sort of a gay, a slight gay hug because he keeps being like, I don't know you want us yet, we're not even engaged. It's like this constant sort of like, so what's your, like it's always, the loan is seemingly, if you were to say like the more emotional one, because at one point is like you the best cop I've ever worked with.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And then the, I guess the whole thing about will they won't thing in this movie is will they or won't they high five? Yes. That's the will they won't me. That's the money shot at the end is a high five, which is crazy. And you also don't forget, you get the cross-dressing Kurt Russell scene. That was amazing. I was like, holy shit, this movie is fucking, when that happened.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's so weird. Yeah. I really was blown. My mind was blown. Am I to understand that that is Terry Hatcher's motorcycle regardless? No. No, it's the other guy. No.
Starting point is 00:35:47 No. It's the motorcycle act from that went on before her. So then we're, what we are meant to assume is that she can and does drive a motorcycle. Easily. The only reason why they set up that shot of the motorcycle act that we saw glimpse of was so that, because the setup is like, well, we think he's going to come out as the motorcycle guy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And of course he doesn't. She does. And then she whistles and says, come on, babe. And then we get him in what must have been two and a half hours of makeup. Yes. To make him look like a woman. Which by the way, he's done that twice. This is in the back of this not strip club, by the way, just for people to understand.
Starting point is 00:36:25 This is in the back of the not strip club. The police are converging on them and this is the only way they can escape. And he's on the lam. I mean, he's really. He's the most wanted man in Los Angeles. Yes. And instead of just sort of rustling out and jumping on the back. Kurt rustling out.
Starting point is 00:36:38 What did you say? Instead of Kurt rustling right out of there. He stands there posed for a long time. He gives the cops a million shots of his face. And then he whistles to the cop to make the cop look at him and then gives him a kissy face. It was so weird. And then they put him in it and they don't even really let him have fun as a woman.
Starting point is 00:37:04 It's not like junior. No. That's exactly what I'm saying. This is like a little that we've seen now two action stars dressed as women in the last two movies. But he like and when he's like called to speak, you can tell he's real nervous like, oh, Kiki. Like they don't they don't like let him do much or he didn't let them or he was like, I'm not doing any of this shit.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I mean, I only feel like Kurt Russell was like more cool with dressing up as a woman like then. Probably. Yeah. It's the loan. Well, there's a lot of like panic in this movie about masculine and I mean, there's that. Yeah. There's also sort of like preserving her virginity and the panic over is correct.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Did you bump uglies with my sister? Yeah. And how many times do they say foobar? They keep setting up foobar. Here's the thing like and and it's a it's one of my favorite mechanisms in a movie and it's the it's the classic sister twist. And it's you find out that what's that Terry Hatcher is, you know, Sly's sister. But it's such a convenient thing because it lets two men who want to fuck each other have
Starting point is 00:38:06 a surrogate so that like can fuck the sister because yeah, like Sly and him can't right at least publicly publicly. And I'm not saying Kurt and Sly. But it's like within that movie there, the chemistry is they I mean, they're like, I owe you one. You got my back. They are always saving each other and looking each other's eyes. Guys, it's the original bromance.
Starting point is 00:38:27 What? I loved about this. Oh, we got to talk about the massage scene when when Stallone finally catches his sister and Kurt Russell together. She's giving him a regular massage. Hang on though. Yes. Why?
Starting point is 00:38:42 I have the same question. The relationship escalated to the point where she is in nothing. She just met them. She's in nothing but a kimono. He is. I don't know. We're wearing just pants. And she is giving him a full on rub down because he heard his back sitting on his sitting
Starting point is 00:38:56 on him and sitting on him and and at first it's like, oh, yeah, that's good. That feels good. And then it heightens when Stallone's watching it to a point of like, oh, can you feel it? Oh, yeah. Harder. Hard. Oh, it's in. It's in.
Starting point is 00:39:12 It's all the way in. What is in? You've never. Her finger in his butthole. That's the only way you can get to the vertebra. I was like, you've never said that term like, oh, yeah, you got my back back in. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You're right in there real deep. And she's like that. She's like, oh, oh, she's excited. She's giving the massage. Yes. It was ridiculous. And that scene went on just a little bit longer than you needed it to go on. It was like, he could bust in the yard.
Starting point is 00:39:41 It looks like she's fucking him. Why did she need to like, stand in the darkness and watch this scene where they weren't even fighting just to get more upset? Because there are no two people in this movie and probably the world that Sly's character wants to fuck more than Kurt Russell and his sister. Well, I definitely think they were like, they definitely were like, one of these guys needs to have a crush on a girl. Otherwise, everybody's going to think they're gay.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Can we talk? Especially with all of the, there's a lot of prison gay stuff. And they also show Stallone and Kurt Russell walking with their asses out, totally naked away from camera. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just ass shot. Like, man. That's like Mel Gibson.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That was another era where it was like, action stars show their asses right there at this outfit. Well, I feel like that was because it drove the ladies wild. Which is so weird. June, were you driven wild? No. And I have to say, and I think I've said this before, like to me, the shot of a man's ass, and I think I speak for most women, does nothing.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I don't know what, because I remember that in the 80s and in so many movies of like these beautiful tender shots of men's asses and commercials of like men and jeans and asses. And I do think it's very homoerotic, but it's not. I don't think it's for women. You don't think it's hetero. Oh, I don't think so. Maybe there are women. What if the guys are real?
Starting point is 00:41:04 What if the guys are real hunk? Then that's great, but I don't personally, I don't need to see his ass. No. And in fact, I have to say, I think I'd rather not. Yeah. I think I'd rather not. You're not the kind of lady that's like, ooh, ladies, you've got to see this movie because of the buns, the hot buns on display.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I don't think many women are into asses. And you say, yeah, that's it. You think you speak for all women. I am going to speak for all women. Yeah. Okay. So listen to me. If you agree with June on that, just...
Starting point is 00:41:36 And by the way, go out and listen to How Did This Get Made? Go get your hands on that podcast and take a listen. Nick, we're on it. They're here. Right. Exactly. Because of statements like this. This, one of my favorite lines in the prison was, it was Kurt Russell Distalone, and he
Starting point is 00:41:54 goes, they cut his throat ear to ear. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. So you just described it perfectly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 They cut his throat. Ear to ear. Yeah. Got it. One of my other favorite prison moments. In fact, we were talking about it just earlier in the movie when the guy held a razor blade to your throat and said he was going to cut it ear to ear. One of my other favorite prison moments is Clint Howard in one of his finer performances.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Is that fair to say? Oh, for sure. For sure. One of his more understated. Apollo 13 and then this. He says, yeah, I kill my best friend and then points to a newspaper article that says, man kills best friend. Newspaper is the new world, we're like, man.
Starting point is 00:42:42 So literal. The newspaper budget on this, like that's where all the production designers money was going. He's like, look, we can't do, we can't separate the interrogation room from the urinal room. We're overextended on newspaper budget. We also have spent $45,000 on slinkies. I wish, I wish all, I wish, I wish all the transitions of this movie was just a newsboy throwing newspapers off the back of a truck.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Okay, but I did wonder about that shot because I think were they trying to have the audience really believe because we can't trust the narrator of the crazy person that this happened? Oh, that's interesting. It just said it. I kill my best friend because I'm crazy and crazy. We both do anything. Like what? Right?
Starting point is 00:43:25 Right? But then he sort of seems to have settled down like Sly has control of him later in the movie. Remember, Sly takes the slinky and like ties him to the bed with his slinky. And by the way, that door, that was like a prison dorm room. Like there was a, there was literally a sign above the door that said exit, like, like a stolen sign. Like they don't let you decorate your prison.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Like they had like hanging like toys and stuff like that's not like that loose. No, everything in this prison, the prison doors are always open. Everybody's always socializing. It seems like everybody has access to each other. They're like, at one point Kurt Russell is in Stallone's cell visiting and he's like, come on, man, we got to go. And a guy comes in and was like, hey, come on, you're late for work. I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:44:05 What do you mean? Come on, you're late for work. And then he gets to work and they're like, you're 30 minutes late. This is prison. And he's like, sorry, boss, I'll do bad. I'm trying my best. He's like, all right. And I was like, it is prison.
Starting point is 00:44:18 By the way, I have, I've now lived in LA for seven years. It rained more in this movie than I have ever in my seven years. It hit rain. But oh, sorry. Just another time thing is they get framed for murder, right? Yes. Then because Palin sets it up. He's like, I'm going to get these, you know, got these.
Starting point is 00:44:38 We got the biggest shipment in the world coming in in a week and a next week. So these guys get arrested, framed for murder and are on trial and go through an entire trial within the next week and escape. I've never seen the legal system function so far. No, it's impossible to that this would have happened this way. Impossible. Impossible. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:45:00 How did this get made? iTunes. I want to talk about the video footage in this movie. This movie also like the big like video phones and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Everything was on video phones in this movie, which were just like old TVs, old big screen TVs.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And the one thing that was so funny was there, the like a plant has like a guy that like works the Beverly Hills unit and the guy who works like the, the lower side and they were always together and he calls them up on the phone and the camera for their video phone, which is doesn't seemingly controlled by anyone is just zooming into their faces and zooming out like that. Like what technology is that? And and then in the, oh, we haven't even talked about the Q, the, the, the, the James Bond Q.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Oh God. That's for the LAPD research division. The guy, he's one of the guys in Scrooge. Oh yes. He's one of the homeless guys in Scrooge. And he's building a stuffed animal dog with a gun in its mouth that is to protect elderly people at home alone. What Michael J. Pollard, by the way, is his name and what is, what on earth is that about?
Starting point is 00:46:07 Well, but he also goes, you know, he's the one who came up with my, my boot gun. He, which was like, I think our tax dollars are going toward anything even remotely like this. Oh, 100%. Yes. I mean, this is so crazy. The LAPD does not have a special unit to make weapons and vehicles. Also, Kurt Russell is the most wanted man in Los Angeles and walks into an LAPD facility.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Nobody recognizes him. Yes. Except his buddy. He's not in disguise. He's not in disguise. He's not trying to be subtle. He's waltzing through. He's walking by people.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He says, I need guns. His buddy gives them guns. He walks back out by all these other people. It's, the movie is so stupid. Here's what we're to, beyond like their, beyond figuring out the tape of it all. They don't do anything to get themselves off when they're released. You mean sexually? No.
Starting point is 00:46:57 I mean, like they don't try to prove that they didn't do it. No. They are just trying to get at Jack Palin's, I think. And I would argue they're actually doing plenty to get themselves off sexually. Yeah. Okay. I want to talk about- Separate thing.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I want to, okay, so- And just to finish off, the special, you know- Victims unit? Yeah. They just take off with that truck. Like, they don't even have to sign anything or like, they're just like, he's like, yeah, go take our super truck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:27 The super truck. The super truck looks like a car. That's the only thing I remember from that movie when it came out was like the super truck. Well, that's the 80s. It was all about super RVs, super trucks, vans. It's like the A-team stripes. It's all male buns, tight male buns, and like, souped up like vans.
Starting point is 00:47:52 As the height of, holy shit, can you believe this exists? It's- It's a fucking van with a machine gun staple to it. Like, there was a scene in every A-team where they did just this, where they took a tractor and turned it into a weaponized tractor, where they took any item with wheels and turned it into that with guns and wheels. And that was a huge deal. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Guys, fuck it. There's so many things I want to share with you, and I just feel like just for the sake of this, I want to, we can, I can just throw you a fact and we can discuss. First of all, the film went over budget by how much? How much do you think it went over budget? Newspaper budget included? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I'd say it went over by 10 million. Okay. 20 million. Okay. One dollar. Okay. 20 million dollars over budget. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:44 20 million dollars. So listen to this. This is the other thing here. The movie went into production in June. Directors were changed in August. Oh, wow. Principal photography was finished in September. Then a new director was brought in for two more weeks of reshoots.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And then it was finished filming on October 20th, eight weeks before its original theatrical opening. Oh my God. So it opened. They could finish right. Patrick Swayze was originally cast as cash. He left for Roadhouse. Amazing move.
Starting point is 00:49:14 That's why the hair, that's the hair. Stalone. Stalone. Stalone had Barry Sonnenfeld fired as a DP because he wasn't lighting him correctly. Wow. And then in the scene where the SUV catches fire, they couldn't put the fire out and Stalone and Russell were in that car and Stalone was burnt because his hair caught on fire in the SUV.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Wow. They almost were killed. And a crew member, a crew member said, this is the worst organized, most poorly prepared film I've ever been on in my life. From the day we started, no one knew what the hell we were doing. There was apparently a very big debate because the director was a very serious Russian filmmaker who co-scripted Andrey Rubilev with Andrey Tarsovsky and filmed a Russian adaptation of Uncle Vanya and directed Eric Roberts to an Academy Award nomination and runaway
Starting point is 00:50:08 train. So a high level director and then replaced by the director of Purple Rain. Hence all the rain scenes. And the dancing. I got one big note. I got one big note. Oh, and by yeah, that's why she's like Sheila E. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Drumming away. So the producers sued Warner Brothers trying to not release the movie because Warner Brothers took the movie away, gave it to Stuart Baird, who re-edited the entire movie to make sense. He did the same exact thing for Demolition Man, another Stalone movie. Holy cow. But they were trying to sue them because they. Stalone's like, this is my guy. I make a shitty movie and this guy turns it into gold.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I mean, this is just the craziest. It's Peter's and Goober's, right? What's their name? Peter's and Goober wanted the movie to be goofier and campier, while Stalone and Konoloski wanted it to make it more serious. So there was two tones at play and then they couldn't get, they couldn't get Harold Fautmeier in at the end of the movie to do the last reel. So the last reel of the movie is done by somebody else.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And then there's, sorry, there's a couple more things here that all of them were pretty great. I just, one of the, I don't know if it's Goober's or Peter's was stuck, got his break as Barbra Streisand's hair stylist. That's John Peter's. John Peter's. Hence, I would say the Kurt Russell hair. The focus on the Kurt Russell's hair.
Starting point is 00:51:30 That's Kurt Russell's hair. I mean, that's, that's Snake Pliskin's hair. That's like, that's Kurt Russell's hair. Big trouble in Little China. And then these are the, the only other two things that are worth mentioning. Well, there's so many great things. When tango and a scape, tango and cash escape from prison, cash turns to tango and asks if he stopped for coffee in a Danish tango says, I hate Danish.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah. Yeah. You know why? Oh, because he'd just gotten divorced from. Brigitte Nielsen. Who's Danish? Oh, that's what I was, I didn't think I was like, why is that line in there and now I'm like, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And isn't she, I guess she's not Swedish. I guess. Yeah. And then, and then this is the other one, the guy who had the Australian accent or the English accent, that guy only had two lines, but Stallone thought it would be really great if he did it in a cockney accent. And they started to expand that part just based on Stallone going, that would be fun to have this guy do a much larger.
Starting point is 00:52:28 That is so insane and depressing. Well, it's an, to me, the movie is in general, like a story of like a man at the height of his power, not at the height of his powers, like not at the height of like, oh, this guy's a brilliant filmmaker, just like so powerful that he's like, I'm going to make jokes about my own movies. I'm going to make fun of my ex, my now ex-wife and I'm going to give a guy with a bad accent a ton more lines. And I'm going to make him do the accent and then give him more lines.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Oh my gosh. That is very, that's all awesome. One more newspaper note. The last newspaper scene. Shouldn't you consider yourself a newspaper expert? Well, I did notice in the last newspaper insert shot, right next to on the front page of whatever newspaper that was, right next to the article about Tango and Cashbit released is an article on the left that's titled simply, Children Who Dress for Success.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Well, but it's also next to, what does that mean? What could that mean? It's a front page, it is a front page article, Children Who Dress for Success. Now the thing that I thought was equally interesting is on the other side of that article, that was the one where they're back on the force. It says the other big lead article of that day was Ask Not What the Critics Say. That was the article. Ask Not What the Critics Say, clearly going like, great headline, you're going to criticize,
Starting point is 00:54:04 like what is that, what story is that Ask Not What the Critics Say, that's an op-ed if anything. Did you see the Times earlier? Yeah, Ask Not What the Critics Say, man. Great article. Great article. Great article on that topical news story. Did your son pick out a three-piece suit because he's starting third grade tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:54:19 And do you know Tango and Cash, the famous cops have been released? They cleared their name. And we just talked about before I get into some of these second opinions, what was the glass room that Jack Plants escapes into, the room of mirrors? Why was there a fun house mirror room? God knows. What was it like, if he was like, well, if they ever catch me, I can run into my fun house.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yes. I think that was the idea that it was sort of this panic room where they couldn't tell. But it's like a, it's a carnival house of mirrors, literally a room behind a bookcase just full of mirrors. This exists in a warehouse facility full of weapons, apparently, and an office that is looks like you're right, the office of a strip club. And so it really is a real mashup of stuff. And then that scene too, where it's like, which one is Jack, but by the way, so who
Starting point is 00:55:16 cares like if they shoot a mirror, right, and just shoot everything. And then on top of that, it was like, how do you know, you know, it's like, I knew by the monograms, whatever, it's like, oh, they're both great cops. But it's also like, they knew by this, they knew by that, but it has nothing to do with why they knew. Like it wasn't like, oh, well, you're the smart Beverly Hills guy, and you saw that. You're the street smarts guy, and you're the book smarts guy. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:42 There was never a difference besides that speech, that impassioned speech scene. Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but there are other people who had a different opinion. It's now time for second opinions. Now, don't, don't underestimate a great movie. You idiot. Second opinion, second opinions, second opinion, second opinion, 5 stars, five stars, 5 stars, five stars.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Who are these critics? These are second opinions that are culled from Amazon 5Star reviews. get ready, buckle up, because these are good. All right, I'll start off with this one. This is from Vladimir Petrov. Five out of five stars, one of Stallone's best. I really liked this movie. It was funny and full action.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I really didn't notice the plot, but it had a lot of good action in it. Get this movie, you won't be disappointed. He didn't notice the plot. He didn't notice the plot. Okay, and then this one. That's amazing. This one is five out of five stars.
Starting point is 00:56:50 By the way, I don't think anyone making that movie noticed it either. Yeah. Well, it's like, you know the score is good when you don't really hear it. It's sort of the same thing. You don't move as good when you don't remember it. You really notice it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:02 It's like, I only heard the score in Beverly Hills Cop, so I don't remember it from this one as well. It's really such Beverly Hills Cop music. Oh, it's hilariously XLF. Yeah. Lots of action for gals, like me, watching Sly and Kurt's cute buns and hot bods running for that movie. There you go, June.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah, you got it. Looks like you don't speak for this one. Oh, wow. Terry Hatcher is great for the guys to see. She can act, but she can't dance. Ha, ha, ha. Lots of one-liner wisecracks and great second performances. What is that?
Starting point is 00:57:38 I don't know. Jack Palance is a hilarious chief villain. Jeffrey Lewis, who incidentally didn't get listed in the credits. What? Dylan Howard and more, as fine of a plot as one expects for an action. It's like, come on, it's a movie.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And a mighty fun one at that. Oh, my God. Two LA cops rivaling for headlines. I don't know if that was really the thing. And a high total of drug busts. And the bad guys that try to take them out, not to mention zany characters along the way. Why can't Hollywood make a Clive Cussler novel like this?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Funny, witty, lots of action, just like it's written. As an Aussie villain puts it, balls to plan A. As a B movie, this one gets my vote. So this guy is a lot of a lady who wants a Clive Cussler movie. And then- And she loves those buns. Loves those buns. Here's another great, a little bit long one,
Starting point is 00:58:32 but Tang on Cash are the ultimate duo, which spawns such great gatherings as Van Dammon, Rodman, Segal and Wains, Schwarzenegger and Legosamo. Yes, they are the city's two best cops and frame for a murder, resentment. The bad guys should know better than to mess with Stallone and an extra bonus, Kurt Russell. Cash is a loudmouth who doesn't take anything from anyone
Starting point is 00:58:54 and Tango is an immortal dressed in Armani, chic. Cash falls in love with T- Wait, is Stallone immortal in this movie? That's what it says. Is he a Highlander? You didn't notice that in the plot? Wait, is he a Highlander in this movie? That is what it-
Starting point is 00:59:09 Cash falls in love with Tango's sister, played by Terry Hatcher and the fun starts all over again. Gaggetree, a gadget person, a gadget person. A gadget person? A gadget person helps the two partners and constructs the ultimate car with guns built on the sides. Oh, baby.
Starting point is 00:59:28 The fight scenes are incredible and the showdown between Jack Palance and the partners is undeniably engaging. Holy cow, baby. Tamoti, five stars. Just a side note, I was recently at a party and I met Sally Field and she, speaking of Gidget, she had a lot of trouble working her way
Starting point is 00:59:45 through like a bite of prosciutto. Sorry, just a side note. Well, would we recommend seeing this movie? That's the question. I would, I was engaged. I enjoyed it, I mean I did- It was fun. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Nick? I mean, I love the movie. I'm a huge, I loved it and I also love the podcast, How Did This Get Made? It's a great show. You're already on it. Check it out. This is that podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:11 You can go to earwolf.com, you can go to iTunes. You're already on it. Yeah, you're already on it. You can put it on your RSV feed. RSV? RSV feed? Wow. You're a real Gidget head.
Starting point is 01:00:23 A big thanks to Bret Morris, our engineer. Averill Halley, who pulls all of our clips. Nick Kiley, who does all of our research. Leanna Waldron, who designs all of our amazing graphics. And you can thank them. I don't know, find them, thank them, they're awesome. See you next week. Let's get ready.

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