How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: The Adventures of Pluto Nash (w/ Jessica St. Clair & Lennon Parham)

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

If you love Star Wars and Spaceballs, you’ll LOVE The Adventures of Pluto Nash. This intergalactic flop will leave you questioning Eddie Murphy’s career choices, the future of civilization, and yo...ur own sanity. Our guests Lennon Parham and Jessica St. Clair are down to deconstruct the confusing costuming and cloning that left us all stunned. Watch it if you must, but don’t say we didn’t warn you. (Originally Released 04/10/2012) Tix on sale for Philly live show on Nov 16th and holiday virtual live show on Dec 12th! Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and for more on bad movies.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Blade Runner for Dummies. We saw the adventures of Pluto and Ash, so you know what that means. Now it's time for How Did This Get Made? We're gonna have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be the hater, cause you know you're one to have a discrepancy.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Let's follow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am Paul, joined as always by Jason and June. How are you both? Good, what's going on? Very good.
Starting point is 00:00:33 We have a pair of special guests today. These two hilarious women are on a brand new show called Best Friends Forever. It's on NBC, premiering April 4th, right? Yes, at 8.30, right after Betty White's Off Their Rockers. That's for real. That's right. That's happening, America. Please welcome Jessica Sinclair and Lennon Parham.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Thank you for having us. And you guys are here to talk about Betty White's Off Their Rockers. Yes, of course. So is it like Helly Mandel's show, but different and old? Cause it's a prank show, but with older people. Yes, of course. So is it like Howie Mandel's show, but different and old? Because it's a prank show, but with older people. Old person prank shows.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Old people, now, Lennon, do you know if old people prank young people? Yeah, I think that's the concept. That's what's going on. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm very excited. And it's a little one, it's not a one time special. It's a, it's a series. It's a series.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Fantastic. And you guys have been paired with it because you guys are appealing to a similar elderly demographic. Yes, of course. Elderly women and gay men are our target. That's true. That's true. That's not a bit. That is true. And if we get those people that I don't need to, I can retire. Is that who you're marketing towards?
Starting point is 00:01:37 Yes. CBS has made a fortune basically doing that. Yeah, they have. That's true. Yeah, they have. I'm hoping we'll see a remake of Designing Women. What does their gay people show? everything Blue bloods, oh my god, that's Tom selects mustache. I guess Mustache You know what guys? Screw you guys. Starring Tom Select.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Tom Selects. Thomas Selects. All right, so Pluto Nash, the adventures of Pluto Nash. I just want to open up with my first question, which is how would you classify this movie? Is it a comedy? Is it an action movie? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I was confounded by almost every element of this movie. From the beginning to the prologue, to the seven years ahead. I didn't understand if Alec Baldwin was in it or not. I was completely mystified by what was happening. And all of it seemed to be predicated on this action, he shoot him up, he's going to be killed just for moon gambling. I would also like to know if anyone could describe just like a one line, in one line what is the movie?
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah, you're black Han Solo on the moon. I guess so. Because it had Jack in the first scene. He was a smuggler? Was he a smuggler as well? Yeah, he was a smuggler. He just got out of jail. On the moon and...
Starting point is 00:03:01 And you also are a very famous club owner. Then you become, exactly, then you give up smuggling to become a famous club Well, yeah, can I ask you this? Yeah, he a famous club owner before Yeah, no, then that's then there is a timeline problem because by the time he arrives With Jay Moore and he's in the kilt in the very beginning. Yes, everyone's like ooh the Pluto Nash Muggling He was the famous smuggler at that point. I didn't know that. I thought he had had, and I kept thinking to myself
Starting point is 00:03:28 during that first scene. What was the movie you watched, I wanna know? During the first scene, I thought to myself, well, who ran his club when he was in jail? Sure. And that wasn't clear. So now that's clear to a lot of people. He was maybe an agent.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It also wasn't clear though. It also really wasn't clear. Did he always have designs to become a club owner or did it just sort of... It was his dream he said. When the gangsters are torturing Jay Moore, he says it's always my dream to open a club of my own. Oh, he buys Jay Moore's... Okay, because the club that he's singing in. Is that correct? He settles the debt. I would pay upwards of a thousand dollars to just listen to Jessica St. Clair describe the movie she thinks she watched.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Guys, I feel like someone had given me the date rape drug and then I woke up. It doesn't make sense. And my butthole was sore and I'd see, I had some vague memories of having screened Pluto Nash. That's the experience of watching that movie. I thought when he said it was always my dream to open a club that he was lying just to get J. Moore out of a pickle. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:04:26 That's possible. Well, the opening scene is Jay Moore on stage being a Scottish crooner named Anthony Franckowski on the moon. It's on the moon. Just so everybody knows, this movie takes place on the moon. You never see it in 2080. 2080. Well, no.
Starting point is 00:04:44 It takes place in 2080 for five minutes and then it jumps seven years ahead. I also want to say that Rosario Dawson in one scene keeps referring to back in 76. That's only four years ago. That's like if we were back in 2008. By the time we see Rosario, it's 2087. See, I didn't know that. That's 11 years prior. I didn't know what was going on.
Starting point is 00:05:02 She's probably a nine-year-old. High five. I really wish you could just describe what you think you saw. I didn't know that. I didn't know what was going on. I needed a timeline. I really wish you could just describe what you think you saw. What do you think Rosario Dawson was? Do you know Sinclair? She was just a girl, was trying to make it big.
Starting point is 00:05:14 She'd come from Salt Lake City. I know she mentioned that. You're right, you're right. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. And also her dad was Little Nikki or something. A famous smuggler? Wait, her dad was a famous smuggler?
Starting point is 00:05:25 Wait her dad was a famous smuggler? Her dad was Nicky Leggs or somebody? Oh Nicky Sticks! Nicky Sticks Isn't that a famous singer? Nicky Sticks is the guitarist for Molly Crew Basically what we're saying is this movie from moment one actively doesn't make any sense and it is definitely not a comedy.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I counted one and a half jokes. What were they? I laughed out loud. I wanna know what the half was. I laughed out loud once. Oh really, what was your, all right let's see. That was when Eddie Murphy did that really long pause after Jay Moore described how he was gonna make it
Starting point is 00:06:01 to the other elevator. Yes, I thought that was a joke. That was a solid joke. And I considered the half joke the robot maid who would bend over. They called that the oops program. They could look at her robot vagina. That was basically what Eddie Murphy gets off on.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Looking at robot vagina. I'll tell you what's a disturbing moment of the film is when who's that? Guzman talks about renting a robot to rape that robot and then it turning on him References the Terminator movie what's wrong with that? It's terrifying to me. It's not right It's a robot. No sending that isn't right. It wasn't like he rented a tiny child. Oh, no, my understanding was he had a robot that he rent- he was the pimp for.
Starting point is 00:06:48 No, my understanding was he tried to have sex with that robot and the robot turned on him. Yes, then the robot turned on him and went Terminator style, which is a reference that at that point is... Hundreds of years old. It's like referencing a talkie now. But at the same time, there's a point in the movie where Eddie Murphy is watching a Jimmy Cagney movie. So I guess all time is funny. Yes, but nobody remembers Frank Sinatra.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Oh, right. Yes. So yeah. Timeline is up for grabs. We're not going to go step by step for a movie because it's going to make it. We are already. By the way, if you're confused by what's happening in the podcast,
Starting point is 00:07:23 the movie is a billion times more confusing. Basically all you need to know is that? Someone wants Eddie Murphy to sell his club. He says no they blow it up and then the whole movie is running running into a cameo explosions running into a cameo Explosions running into game that's based gunfights Eddie Murphy fighting himself. Oh and then that then the big running into a gunfight Murphy fighting himself oh and then that then the big spoiler spoiler I think I knew I knew from the beginning because they started off with a hip-hop version of Blue Moon yes and then the soundtrack never failed me for the rest of the time oh the soundtrack is one of the worst
Starting point is 00:07:59 soundtracks yeah of all time it's like saved by the bell underscoring, but jazzy hip hop. The Blue Moon thing in the beginning was like, hip hop Blue Moon is really bad. It's like, brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brr over the blue moon who calls out that but mad props mad props to Rosario and Jay who both did their own singing well Jay Moore probably shouldn't have done his own singing if he was like that for I mean I thought that was an odd choice it was an odd yeah and was Rosario
Starting point is 00:08:35 trying to launch a singing career? well you know she was in Rent no I mean in Perth oh she was in real life yes she was she is a singer I wrote those lyrics down for that last song. Oh, yeah I love them. Do you want to please sing it? Yes. I don't remember the tune but it was we be getting and crunked up We be getting pumped up We put that fire out. I don't know why that's a good thing. We lift your glasses higher now
Starting point is 00:09:01 Everything is alright The movie ends and that song lets you know that, hey, everything is alright. That is a pretty amazing thing. Did you know that this movie was ranked the 79th worst film in 2000, but it has a distinction of being the biggest financial loss of any movie besides John Carter of all time. Is that true? Yes, John Carter just beat it out. Really?
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yes. The budget for this movie, now by the way, it looks like. It costs five dollars to make. Exactly. It's the most sedious sets. It looks like they just threw a bunch of neon on Disneyland Street.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yes, if you've never been to Universal City Walk, it looks like a dilapidated version of that. And the weird thing about that is they made this movie, the movie came out in what, 2002? So they made this movie in the 2000s. It looks like someone in the 70s made a movie about the future. Well here's a piece of info I dug up. The future when they were making it was more futuristic than what the future in this movie looked like. People still use payphones in this movie. Yes!
Starting point is 00:10:09 That's the one thing that... Jetsons don't even use payphones. Here's the situation. This movie was in development for 17 years. Yes. That is insane. It started off in 1985. So that is what they thought the future would be in 1985.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And nobody updated it? They didn't do production design in 1985. They probably did it in 2000. They did those dioramas. Maybe the set designer made those dioramas in 1985. They didn't have, you know. Well, they got a lot of funny ads in there, like America Online is a big thing in 2018.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Lunar Edition. Lunar Edition of America Online. I would love to talk to the costume designer about that rust-colored ruffled shirt and leather jacket that Rosaria Dawson was in. It was the most unflattering thing I've ever seen. She was dressed like a pile of garbage. And all of the men are dressed like Arsenio Hall.
Starting point is 00:11:07 On the moon, we are completely. It looks like a Steve Harvey clothing store blew up and then outfitted the entire cast. It literally is like, oh, well, there's a lunar colony now. Yeah, it's Little America. What does everybody wear? Zoot suits? That sounds right.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Well, I mean, again to talk about how bad. I own that CD. What what are you talking about? That you own that seat wait a minute Have a single That had that song I feel like if I went into your house you would have five CDs and they are that CD the Shrek soundtrack Why not Shrek 2? I don't know. Did you lose Shrek 1? Maybe I don't know what I definitely have Shrek 2. I feel like you have all soundtracks. Yes. Like a Steel Magnolia soundtrack maybe. That's two. Anne Agree Gables soundtrack. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:59 That's pretty much it. Is that it? Yeah. And like George Winston's winter. Who are the girls? You have old school Gloria Stefan. Yes, and who are the women that used to wear the satin gloves? En Vogue. En Vogue. Never gonna get it. Yeah, I own that as well. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Wow. Movingon.org. And movingon.org? Is that a different organization than moveon.org? That's a past tense one. Is that a website? Let's get back to the film. Or is that?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Let's get back to the film. Let's get back to the film. I wanted to, we did, we did. Talk about the film. Can I go back to J. Moore for one second? Yeah, sure. Okay, because I was trying to figure out, now was he a performer?
Starting point is 00:12:35 So he wasn't Scottish, obviously. His last name was Fran Kowski. I think he was a Scottish critic. No, that's Polish. They kept making reference to him as Polish. So he was just a guy who wanted to find like a gimmick for his stage persona. Yeah. Yeah The Scottish crew or whatever they he called himself
Starting point is 00:12:57 The club was a really dingy club because no one wanted to hear this Scottish We're a diarrhea appeared to be coming out of the faucet to hear this Scottish word. Scottish God. A diarrhea appeared to be coming out of the faucet. That's like your worst nightmare, right? That bathroom. That bathroom was like 10 million times worse than the train spotting bathroom.
Starting point is 00:13:11 That's like watching Saw for me, is you having to use that type of bathroom. Also, interesting fact about Eddie Murphy, when he goes into that disgusting bathroom, he goes, he turns on the faucet and like green goo comes out and he's like, let me get my handy wipe out And he Murphy in search shot. Yes insert shot of handy wipe like yeah extreme close-up of a handy wipe being open a little bit Oh CD like this is like another part of Pluto Nash's character that we don't really revisit
Starting point is 00:13:38 When he comes back from the bathroom Jay more is tied up by these gangsters who he owes money to and they have a can that says battery acid and they're about to pour it in his mouth via a funnel but I didn't know that you could get battery acid in a can. Oh yeah, oh yeah totally. What would you ever do that? Like yeah like a can of battery acid I need to pour that on something. Well are you gonna put it in batteries? Sure, sure. Just give me that can of battery acid. It won't eat through the can though right no no doesn't through a battery does it did you guys recognize the The the guys assistant who was helping with the battery acid who was it wasn't think it was the grown-up kid from bronx tail
Starting point is 00:14:18 Really? Yeah, I said good. No, that's Victor Bernardo. No, that's the guy we know that's the guy we know Victor Bernardo We know yes, I think was it is it Max Casella is that his name? Oh the kid from Doogie house Yeah, I'm gonna look that's wrong. Don't that's wrong Oh, you just doubted you just how's our is wrong by the way? I'm gonna read you with this is just we were saying what how would you describe this movie? I'm gonna describe it to you here. Here's how was only wrote it as a pitch Okay, after his successful club is blown to flaming bits How would you describe this movie? I'm gonna describe it to you. Here's how somebody wrote it as a pitch
Starting point is 00:14:48 After his successful club is blown to flaming bits Pluto and his band travel across the moon his band Travel across the moon looking for clues to who's behind the arson along with Bruno arson What arson when they blew up his club? I guess Yeah, no who blew it up along with Bruno his bodyguard and Dean of the singer Pluto visits a seedy motel His secret hideout and the casino the most powerful man on the moon searching for the evildoer only to find the destruction of his club May have been his own fault Whoa I would
Starting point is 00:15:24 Happen that you find out it was his own one I guess is the nice twist. I would say. When does that happen? That you find out it was his own fault. He realizes he's got a clone. He's got a clone. He fights himself. You remember that? He didn't clone himself? No, but the guy had access to all his brain stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Basically, what they did was he got an appendix surgery. In prison. In prison. And they took a piece of his appendix. They cloned a new Eddie Murphy. Then Eddie Murphy found out that he was being a puppet. and then he got rid of the mafia guys that were making him a puppet, and now he's not a puppet, he's a real mafia guy. I thought there was some really strong character work done by Ileana Douglas in that wig.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That wig did a lot for her. And the top and bottoms with cut out. I just want to pause for a second. Sinclair, do you know who we're talking We're talking yes the woman who does the cloning no cloning she does I think I think putting them so there's a scene where they go to get body work done We're like plastics. It's like moon plastic surgery, and then they look in the mirror Yeah, and they could see what they could look like. Like a funhouse mirror. That goes on for like 45 minutes. But I think they sucked up most of their budget on those shots, honestly.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I think that's why there was no money for the set for the costumes. But they only do it twice. They look at their body as Africans, like Africans from the jungle, which Eddie Murphy keeps on going, I look like a doofus. I look like a doofus. Weird German. I mean, all right. So I look like a doofus. Yeah, I got doofus like weird German I mean all right, so he's a he was like Amazon Yeah, and he that's Amazon and they got bodybuilder look Venice Well, he keeps that Beach Venice Beach
Starting point is 00:16:55 But he keeps on taking the piss out of Rosaria Dawson by telling her she needs a bigger butt. Yeah. Yeah Not not the worst advice He creates a body for Rosario Dawson where her boobs are giant and her ass is giant. He's a yeah. I like that It's like she looks grotesque. Oh, yeah, and so does Eddie Murphy. Yes, that's good. I forget Can we spend I don't know maybe the next 30 minutes talking about Randy Quaid's performance in this movie? Listen, I think he was the only committed member of this cast. I feel like he had pathos. I thought he had, he was obviously doing, he had done some movement work.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I don't know if he worked with a coach, a movement coach. Randy Quaid, just so you know, plays the robot bodyguard who is an older model and he had talks very weird like this Like the whole movie and they modulated his voice a bit too. I don't think that may have been Randy Quaid what? Regardless, I think he was overlooked during awards season Do you think that this is the performance that Time yes, but they got the people against him all the people who was he say he was against him Randy The Hollywood the Hollywood Mafia with his performance to goodness and that's how the Hollywood Mafia is coming. I feel like this movie might have driven him into
Starting point is 00:18:15 Absolute insanity yes like he might have never recovered because this is the kind of role that you disappear into You just might never have come out of it. Like a Daniel Day Lewis type of situation. Totally. I want to know what was up with all the robot sex drive. Yeah. Every robot was horny as shit. And there was one time where Randy Quaid says, I can't have sex with her because she
Starting point is 00:18:37 has like 120 volt circuits. She's 220, he's 110. Yeah. And he goes, well, why can't you get an adapter? And he goes, just doesn't feel right. Yeah, and he goes why can't you get an adapter? He goes just doesn't feel right It's a condom joke, but it's also you know what it's advocating unsafe sex guys Daptor on and get why would you invent robots that could fuck each other? I mean, I guess that has a who's, our servant slash bodyguard robots are boring.
Starting point is 00:19:07 What do they need? I don't know, horniness? Yeah, like, let's watch them fuck. And then when Louie Guzman pulls his- What'd you call him? Louie Guzman? Louie? Isn't that his name?
Starting point is 00:19:17 What's his name? Louise. Louise Guzman? Lennon's doing it with the right accent. Oh, it's L-U-I-S. Okay, sorry, Louise Guzman and Luis CK And Tom select Louie Louise Guzman
Starting point is 00:19:34 Has to jump start Randy Quaid at some point yes And has to pull like a metal rod out of his zipper to attach a jumper cable to At which point I was like what what the fuck is going on? This is sexy. And the whole time, Luis Guzman is afraid that Randy Quaid's gonna wake up and fuck him to death. Right, go Terminator on him. That's what they, he talks about that fear before,
Starting point is 00:19:57 so I was thinking we'd see some of that. By the way, can we even, I know you were excited for it, I bet. Yeah, of course. Just FYI, they were like dead, right? That's for your information. Yes. They died. They ran out of air.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And then they should have died because that was like two minutes. I believe they did die. I mean, yeah. But then we were woken back up with just the brand new Dockstead. With magic stuff. Magic, magic. We didn't see. Let's even just talk about this scene.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Their car blows up. Their amazing car, which is being piloted by Junkleys, which was a dish. Why do all futuristic space cars look like old timey cars from the 1930s? The same reason that all the women had 40s hairstyles. Which is what? Yeah. Because they had a retro style. The moon is going on a different... It's a retro angle. What was John Cleese doing? So basically, their car is blown up and then Rosaria Dawson is like, oh my god, what are we going to do? We don't have food or water. They're in spacesuits. They're like out on the surface of the moon now.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Right. And he's like, well don't worry about food or water because we're gonna run out of air sooner than later. And they die because they run out of air. And then all of a sudden comes this space Winnebago. Driven by Guzman. Like it is, this is not even a first draft of the movie. This is like kind of an outline that no one ever even looked at or gave those like it was like morning
Starting point is 00:21:09 Pages this is morning pages like and then he comes Or it's like somebody got something we're journaling this movie I'm gonna journal the people skipped by it and probably got it got dailies and we're like wait what the fuck did they just die? Yeah, did they just die in the fuck? Don't worry though? We've established that no one travels on this side of the moon, but we'll make we'll definitely make a guy know and a random drive-by and Give him a little bit oxygen and guess what they're fine That was that was the best song the song he was listening. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:21:42 There's a lot of amazingly bad hip-hop It's like it's like somebody tried to whoever is doing the music like let's combine it It's like it's hip-hop, but it's old-school So it's like everything is a mixture of like it's like brown like that's I feel like it's like it's not it's like Oh, yeah We'll mix red and blue and we'll get brown Everything everything in this movie the music especially but like the costuming and everything was like, okay, let's take what people are super into right now and then think about how it might be future-ish.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Yeah, to just cut a hole out of her, just the bottom part of her pants. How's it gonna be like just crazy future moonies? Well, I mean, I think the best future vision was when they go to pay him ten million dollars and all the dollar bills are Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Boom, still works. The joke still works. Killing it. What about moon dancing? Oh yeah, the moon dance.
Starting point is 00:22:36 What the fuck was that? Now they paid money for a choreographer. They said come up with a moon dance. Not only a choreographer, those were clearly not just background extras. Those were dancers. No, those were actual dancers. Those were dancers. Same dancers who I believe used in the space rave in The Matrix 2. Basically, their moon dance is, I would describe it
Starting point is 00:22:57 as punching and stepping. Also like this. There's lots of right angle movements. Lots of perpendicular stuff. And they're not dancing with each other. They're very separate. They're all very separate from each other. Life on the moon is lonely.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I guess so. And you have to like don't touch. Like you've got to be just like, don't get too close. Yes, it is. It's like everybody's a robot. Robot. Robot. I can't talk today.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Did you guys like the Smartwater ad that Eddie Murphy stands in front of? Yeah. When they're giving some information, they stand in front of a Smartwater ad. Wait, can we get back to what was John Cleese's role in that car? What was his function?
Starting point is 00:23:36 John Cleese was the butler of the car, but he was not a robot. He was a car butler. He didn't provide any information to further the plot. He was a hologram. I'm fairly certain he shot that part in his own house in London. They didn't require him. They didn't even really put him in costume.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He's not even in a butler costume. He's in an okay suit. He found an old cap and put it on and just put himself on it. At a certain point, Randy Quaid, he is the, okay, Jarkleys is a hologram or a video screen. So he's not a person. He's not a person. He's not a person. Okay. He's a hologram or a video screen, whatever, who's like, you're not the owner of this
Starting point is 00:24:10 car, you can't drive this car, I'm calling the police. That's a really good junk piece of press. By the way, thank you so much. You should audition for Edson. Oh, the minister of silly walks. Okay, listen, then Randy Quaid points a gun at the computer screen and is like, we gotta get out of here. And he's like, okay, okay. You can't kill a hologram.
Starting point is 00:24:28 That's imp- what? The hologram should have no fear of mortality. Of course. But I guess if robots are horny. Yeah. What? That's a- I wish I was a hologram.
Starting point is 00:24:39 That's a lost Philip K. Dick novel, I think. A hologram should have no fear of mortality. And then they have these terrible ads throughout all the things. They sometimes do these overhead shots of Moon Village or whatever they're in, Little America. And they're not funny, nor are they interesting. One is, need lumbar support?
Starting point is 00:25:01 We'll replace your spine with a lunar lumbar support. It's nothing. It's not going for a joke. Maybe that's in the future. I don't know. Stuff like that to me was all like, you know what? We need all of these big establishing shots of the world that we created and spent hundreds of millions of dollars on, but it's boring.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Let's ADR some advertisements. Andisements or and then they wrote those lines Horrible I realized I start to feel insane halfway through the movie because there's no sunlight No, it's true. No, it is dark the entire time. It's like when you go to Vegas I had you start to feel sick to your stomach because he's a smell of it's almost like The movie gave me seasonal affective disorder. It did, I have sad. I have it. I have sad.
Starting point is 00:25:50 You mean sad's? I can't have sad. You know what else this movie made me feel, a certain sickness that I've only felt when I watched Howard the Duck. It had a similar feel. That's a good comparison. Oh wow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And what is that? Is it the time with power duct tape? It's the pops of color. Yeah, it's like those big, bold... I remember it very clearly when she brings him at one point lunch, and every item on the tray, from the glasses to everything, is so brightly colored and crazy looking that I was like, that is perfectly the problem with this movie. But again, I maintain that in 2000, 2002,
Starting point is 00:26:26 the production designer should have had a better aesthetic than this. It was the same guy as Cool as Ice. It was? Oh. No, it wasn't. Oh. But it might as well have been.
Starting point is 00:26:37 The director was the same director who directed City Slickers. Yeah, City Slickers. Which I don't know. I've never enjoyed that film. I love City Slickers. Yeah. And that, so, how does it happen? I didn't know why I'm enjoying that film. I love City Slickers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I didn't know that. How does this happen? Mighty Joe Young as well. And Tremors 4. Was that about a gorilla? His career- And Tremors 1. Yeah, Tremors 1.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Which is a cult favorite. Young Reba McIntyre. Don't people like Tremors? Worms that come out of the- Aren't people still into Tremors, guys? Guys? We all like Tremors. Guys?
Starting point is 00:27:02 No, but seriously, people are on board with Tremors. All I remember about Tremors is that my friend Jenny started fucking around with My boyfriend at the time Tom Hall while you while Trent when you're doing a youth group lock-in Well, you were watching tremors. Yeah finger awesome. Well, it might not have been Jenny. He was your boyfriend Francis What he was your boyfriend? He fingered someone during tremors and you? finger What he was your boyfriend and he fingered someone during tremors and you Might be the best As the as the worms coming out of the fucking ground you know where the worm is going in yeah
Starting point is 00:27:40 You know time talking about wiener in her mouth. Yeah speaking of booze sex scenes the moment when Sweaty Murphy kisses Rosario Dawson is the strangest. They kiss for a while because he's hiding from one of the mafia guys. We never see his angle on the kiss, by the way. Only hers. By the way, I bet it's his body double did that too. You can see how many times.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Because they never cut to him kissing her. By the way, didn't he do, he did another movie with Rosaria. Go ahead, yeah. But anyway, then she finally pulls away from the kiss and she gives like a 15 second reaction take, which is just that her socks have been blown off. Now this kiss, there's no mouth movement. It's like just like two mouths have to like puzzle
Starting point is 00:28:28 Okay, wait nothing happening Isn't that how you kiss No, but in all seriousness You kiss this is how you kiss it was, you mash your mouth together and then wait. It's absurd. You think you don't have, there's no movement. I push my lips to her lips, I count to 60, I pull away and I watch her come. And she was like, oh my, I mean she was floored by that kiss.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Another romantic moment that I really enjoyed was when he went to the, remember he went and got champagne? Oh yeah. And literally two seconds later he turned around and she was asleep. A sleep, dead asleep. Right, John Cleese had said, oh now you guys are gonna get busy, right? You gotta have your way with her.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And then he turned around and he was like, oh she's asleep and put his coat over her. He also very awkwardly, and I don't know why I remember this, but in the final scene where she realizes that he is killed bad Eddie Murphy, and then he is the real Eddie Murphy, he kissed her on the top of the shoulder. Oh, I miss that.
Starting point is 00:29:31 He was like, did I scare you? And then kissed her. Well, there was something that was very fatherly. To me, I didn't want them to get together because that was his best friend's daughter. Yeah. That's what they established. He should have felt fatherly and not fuck her. No, wait a second. Let's talk about Eddie Murphy's mother for a hot second Pam Grier. Yeah, she was phenomenal Pam Grier
Starting point is 00:29:49 I mean this movie brought her own wardrobe And she brought her own wardrobe, I hope we're all Weapons and then she just would disappear from scenes that she had just been running Patent Yes, yes, remember that because they couldn't locate her on set. They're like we can't get last Crap service. Let's just keep go. Let's just keep shooting. Let's pretend like she just wasn't here I guess keep on going that old cop that she was in love with that she would never marry They never followed through on that no you see them get together though Oh, he was killed and then she was I feel like they shot that
Starting point is 00:30:25 Scene and we just never saw they never followed. I would love to have seen a sex scene between Pam Greer and Peter Boyle That would have made that movie worth it As a question for real if you lived in a future world in which you had like a robot bodyguard or a robot maid or whatever Would you have sex in front of the robot? well, I thought we were actually... This is an earnest question because they were always, people were always almost getting it on while the robot was there. Well, and I think that was, here's what was weird about that.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I thought we were setting up that when the robot was being charged, they could hear things, but they didn't understand what they were hearing, right? No, because he says I heard that toaster comment. That was only when they were getting a phone call. Yeah, when he was reading the phone call. Because I thought what we were building toward was a sex scene between Rosaria Dawson and Murphs, which the robot would have witnessed,
Starting point is 00:31:19 and they would have thought, obviously he didn't hear anything, but then he would have. But the reason that Murphy didn't get really thought about this Never his robot was because he kept he kept 20 years of secrets remember He didn't want to get rid of he said Smuggle secrets smuggle secrets You know what I'm gonna do to you later? I'm gonna smoke a secret the shit out of you. I'm gonna give you all my smuggle secrets.
Starting point is 00:31:46 How to discopeak. You guys, here's a serious question. Another one? Yeah. Did the bad guys in the movie want to just build casinos on the moon and get gambling there? Or also want a clone on the moon? No, I think it was just secret. The clone was because they knew that Eddie Murphy could be a good club runner.
Starting point is 00:32:09 How did they know that from when he was in prison? No idea. How did they know from prison that he would, this is a huge problem. That's why I thought he was already a club owner. How did they know in prison when they made a clone of him that he would then go on to run a club? They just thought he was a good smuggler and this guy would be good.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He'd be a puppet. He'd be a puppet and he'd be real good. It was a leap of faith. But what they didn't predict was that he did have that. That he would have a mind of his own. But I guess what I'm asking though is was cloning in the world of this movie were a lot of people cloned? No.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Cloning was illegal. Yeah. And so was his old partner. in the world of this movie were a lot of people cloned? No, I don't think so. Well yeah, I mean, Cloning was illegal. Yeah, a lot of people cloned his wife. And so was his old partner. But cloning is illegal, remember? Yeah, it was banned. It was made illegal and that doctor had to go out of business
Starting point is 00:32:54 and then Ileana Douglas had to do it on the sly. But also, Peter Boyle, he goes, eh, he goes, you know, Peter Boyle visits one of his old cop friends in like a mini scene where he's like, he's like, ah like ah man the old days You know wasn't it good to be partners, and he's like yeah, but I'm a clone You know he didn't say that, but then kills him, but he's a clone too
Starting point is 00:33:12 But I want to talk about the Alex Baldwin scene that you think the revered De Niro scene ah You think that Alex Baldwin is gonna be the big bad guy the movie It's like he finds out that this mafia guy, the plot is incomprehensible. It's like the worst Raymond Chandler novel. It's like a Raymond Chandler novel where certain pages are ripped out so you can't make it make sense. But he finds… Written by somebody who normally writes a Nickelodeon TV show.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Exactly. And so now Alec Baldwin pops up as this mafia guy who talks about making gambling then pushes a guy down the stairs on Camera on camera and then also pulls a reporter close to him is like hey, honey You want to ask me questions come to my hotel room later in the night on camera on a news camera Oh, yeah, it was all on court TV live on court TV because again court TV has been huge in the future Yep, 2087 court TV. What happened? Guys, I feel really upset right now because I don't know, I might have fallen asleep during the reveal of Eddie Murphy's
Starting point is 00:34:12 clone and here is my question. I thought that perhaps Alec Baldwin's brain had been put into Eddie Murphy's body. Yeah, that's what happened. Is that what happened? No. We blew it. We just blew it. What happened to Alec Baldwin? I thought he was in charge, he's No I thought he was in charge. He's rex. Uh-huh. What happened him? He's not no he's not rex Any Murphy is rex carter. I don't understand Fighting himself the entire movie scared right now. I know I know Happened who was he then? All right, so what did, he was the Earth version of Rex Carter.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let her describe what happened to him. Yeah, what do you think happened? I don't know! Break it down for us, break it down. I mean, you saw two Eddie Murphys, and what did you think at that point? I thought that Rex,
Starting point is 00:34:57 when Murph on Murph, the Murph on Murph fight broke out. That Rex Carter had somehow gotten into the brain of the Eddie Murphy so that the whole time he was looking to kill himself. His own as himself or as Rex Carter? No, I don't know. So you are basically what I'm understanding is at some point in that last scene you thought
Starting point is 00:35:20 bad Eddie Murphy was going to like unzip himself and be Alec Baldwin. Yes, yes. I thought he was living with inside of him. This is the way I understand it. This is the way I understand this movie. Living with inside of him. This is the first time that genuine how did this get made confusion has almost produced a guest to tears. If you guys could see me right now, I've taken off all my clothes and I'm just I'm huddling. I'm shivering in the corner and it is not cool. This is how I understand it
Starting point is 00:35:50 Basically Alec Baldwin was a mafia guy and he was how did you know from the foot? These guys is crazy. I'm the rubber to do You know, I mean it is it's like like, it's like a great Alec Baldwin on SNL's sketch. Yeah. And he's like, and so he decided, OK, I got to get control of the moon, but how am I going to do it? I'm going to clone a guy who's a really great smuggler,
Starting point is 00:36:14 get him up there, and he's going to work for me. And then he did that, cloned Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy's like, hey, guess what, Alec Baldwin, you get out of here. I don't like you. And he shot him into space. And then Eddie Murphy grew his power and then decided to hurt the other Eddie Murphy, hurt himself,
Starting point is 00:36:34 because he wanted to buy his uncle a life. None of what you're saying makes any sense. Okay, so I agree. I'm not stupid. No, no, no, you're not stupid. I'm not a stupid person. Well. Here's the other point I'd like to make.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Because there is another, yeah. Is that Eddie Murphy, the good Eddie Eddie Murphy really only had one club Pluto Nash Yeah, it wasn't like he had an empire nobody had the only good club Club in little how much money do you how many Hillary's do you think that that it was worth 10 million Hillary? It was 10 million bucks. That's what they were going to offer him. 10 million is not that much. Not much. But in 2087, how much-
Starting point is 00:37:06 10 million is not much now. Never mind in 2087. But that's what they were offering him to buy it off of him. So how much nightly do you think he was clearing? Oh, interesting. Well, are there taxes on the moon? Do we know? There are no taxes.
Starting point is 00:37:19 For him to walk away- Gambling is lethal. For him to walk away from that, the 10 million dollars, and he didn't seem to seem insulted by the Tim he was more insulted by the fact They were offering to buy him out okay I have now I feel like I now have what I thought was the understanding of the end of the movie that I now think Might also be wrong, okay Tell us what you when it's revealed that Eddie Murphy is Eddie is the bad guy right right? I was like oh he has still the name right right?
Starting point is 00:37:47 He is no he's rex card. Okay rex Carter Okay, so this is what I couldn't understand cuz I was like oh what he's gonna Do is kill Pluto Nash and then become Pluto Nash because he is him then he can run He can have ownership of the club, and he doesn't have to buy it He doesn't have to do anything because he can have ownership of the club, and he doesn't have to buy it, he doesn't have to do anything, because he actually looks exactly like the guy who wants to be. You thought he was just going to sort of assume the role of Pluto now.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And then he was like, but I'm gonna call it Planet Rex, or Club Rex instead of Club Pluto or whatever. And then I was like, okay, well that doesn't make sense now, because if you called it Club Pluto you that now you're just taking over And then building on whatever it is you want to do you can make it the club a casino because you are being him But that was not his plan that actually that is a better plan Paul I think that is a better plan, but here's the thing let's do no one No one seen Eddie Murphy as Rex Carter. Yes Carter is on- Except for one person, James Rebhorn, right?
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah, James Rebhorn, which, why was he in this movie? Why was anybody in this movie? So we're to understand that Rex Carter was just living in the penthouse of this hotel, never going outside, never going outside, never seeing anyone- At Lunar Beach, Lunar Beach guys. In Lunar Beach, except for James Rebhorn.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Exactly. So how did Rex Carter come into existence? He was a clone Alec Baldwin cloned him cloned him when Eddie Murphy got in his appendix surgery back in jail And then what happened to wdw? Well what happened was once Eddie Murphy clone decided found out that they were using him as a puppet He's like I don't like putt to be used as a puppet so I blasted them into space I don't like pups to be used as a puppet. So I blasted them into space Oh he said that he goes I blasted that's a scene we should have seen yeah
Starting point is 00:39:39 I'm not an experienced writer, but what I do know is you don't say a big plot point like I need to see that Yeah, I know I need a visual on that one. Well, yeah, you know a flashback. Or maybe you could have had him cryogenically bring back the Chihuahua, call back to the Chihuahua. You could have had him in a freezer. That made me very upset. Ooh, yeah, that made me upset. They cryogenically freeze Chihuahuas to bring them to the planet. So when you clone someone, like this movie's-
Starting point is 00:39:57 Just say it. This movie has the most questions we've ever had. Are we to understand that when they clone- Hands down, the worst movie we've ever done, right? When they clone Pluto Pluto Nash that Rex Carter arrived Just in the same age same body same. Yes with all of them So I believe Rex Carter is as much as he is identical to Eddie Murphy He is only about five years old actually right yes, and what I'm realizing now though is all the memories of the 40 year old
Starting point is 00:40:23 Eddie Murphy over seven years old because they did not happen when he was in prison. I'm sorry, you're right. I forgot to say at least eight years old. Do you guys think though that they shot a scene of actually seeing his appendix come out and seeing him in prison for a while? No.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Oh really? Because while I was watching it, I thought they were never gonna start opening on the opening on J. Moore. We probably should have seen. That was a very, very low-stakes scene. Yes, we should have seen him in prison for a while serving his prison time,
Starting point is 00:40:52 like Jean Valjean style. Yeah, yeah. And then, of course. If they had made this movie more like Les Mis, we wouldn't be here right now. We'd see the appendix come out and then we should have seen him out. That, but then that would have ruined the line later,
Starting point is 00:41:04 which was, hey, remember when you were in prison and you got your appendix out? Eddie Murphy. Yeah, of course. Guy, well, we made a clone of you. And it would have taken away that monologue that explained all of that.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I did that when I auditioned for grad school in acting. I did that monologue. Oh my god, that's so awesome. Yeah, I didn't get it. You didn't? No. Shocking. No. This really. Wait a second. Let me just. Yeah, yeah please. So but we've, the comparison that we have in the movie itself, in the world of the movie, when someone is cloned, they behave exactly the same way because J. Moore's wife was cloned. And they speak at the same time. And he gets to say which one's which and he says who's care's care. And then they speak at the same time,
Starting point is 00:41:45 they behave, they suck his dick at the same time, right? That's why you clone a wife. Do you think they shot a scene where they sucked his dick at the same time? They wanted to. Because I would have watched that over and over again. So basically, how is this guy, how is this second Eddie, have his own way?
Starting point is 00:42:09 Why does he have free will? Now, can I ask this? I really don't understand anything about this movie, but were the bad clone Eddie Murphy, was he currently becoming very popular in the, like building that popular casino while Pluto Nash was doing his own club and why didn't they know about it is Lunar Beach so far away from where well lunar beaches on the other side of the moon but don't they but no one is ever no one's ever seen bad Eddie Murphy they don't know he's a name Murphy think to himself well that's weird there's another
Starting point is 00:42:40 what was it called Pluto so it was Pluto? And it was all ready That was the whole big reveal Dan was like who is Rex Carver and then the chair turned and then it was him It was Eddie Murphy. I thought it was gonna be Ileana Douglas I thought it was gonna be Alec Baldwin because they set him up. I know you can see that It was a little a little person and you also thought Paul cuz you said it out loud that you thought it was gonna be J Moore I thought, Paul, because you said it out loud, that you thought it was going to be J. Moore. I thought J. Moore. I thought J. Moore at a certain point. Did anybody else notice that when Luis Guzman was
Starting point is 00:43:11 at the casino and he was supposed to be surrounded by a gorgeous woman, they may have just gone to the city walk and gathered up some women they found and put them in the movie. They could have shot this entire movie in a bubble gum shrimp factory. I will. It looked like they did.
Starting point is 00:43:26 It looks like it looks like that. What was that restaurant in Times Square, like 20,000? Oh, Mars 2012. Mars 2012. Have you ever been to New York? That restaurant has better production values. Yes. But the movie cost $100 million to make.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yes. $100 million. make $100 million. And opening weekend, two million. That's insane. Do you think Eddie Murphy should have killed himself after that? Do you think he demanded twice his fee since he was cloned in the morning? I have to say, I am not,
Starting point is 00:44:01 this is the beginning. I wonder about that maid. That maid played like 20 different maids in Yes, that was the same maid from the hotel. Yeah So you think all those models of those robots look exactly alike? What about ready why did we see more Randy Quaid's cuz he was a 63? Yeah, cuz he's an old model Can I just say though? I think that regardless of how bad this movie was I didn't feel like Eddie Murphy was phoning it in. He didn't seem...
Starting point is 00:44:25 He was acting. He was acting. No, no, he was acting. I will say this, it was not in his wheelhouse. No, because... We're asking him to do it. Well, I don't know what he was even asking because it's not an action movie.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I wanted the laugh. I wanted the laugh. He was doing a lot of naturalistic acting, a lot of lower energy stuff. Yes. Which I don't know, we're not paying our tickets to see low energy. Well, also, this is is if I'm not mistaken like the era of nutty professor and like his big kind of crazy roles
Starting point is 00:44:51 I'll tell you what there were some you know There are some shots when he just smiles and laughs even a little where I found myself very charming. Yes, I agree I was very good. I did really feel there's a great moment Did it because only because I was obsessed with The movie as a Star Wars ripoff in a lot of ways The very kind the lunar chase the he's basically Han Solo Who's a smuggler the all these kind of things and then at the beginning in the first big shootout? She runs in and she screams. It's a trap. Yeah. Which is like a total Star Wars line. I was like, I wonder if they're making this, if they're doing this on purpose, just like
Starting point is 00:45:31 burying these little Star Wars references. I will say just to put it in perspective, this is a very sad time in Eddie Murphy's career. This movie came out, these are the movies that came out roughly around Pluto and Marshal. Dr. Dolittle 2, Showtime, Eddie Murphy and Robert De Niro, I Spy Eddie Murphy and Owen Wilson, and then it was Haunted Mansion, and then I guess he didn't really get back on track,
Starting point is 00:45:57 and then Dreamgirls came out. Was this around the time of his arrest? No, no, that's, I think that's- Let's get a date on that. I love her. I think that's earlier.'s get a date on that. I love her. I think that's earlier. Could you access the cloud? Yes, I'm gonna get on that right now.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Access the cloud if you could. Computer, computer, search for criminal masterminds, Earthlings. Initials WZW. 97, he was arrested. But it's not that, that's five years, that's not a long time. I don't think he was bringing that baggage in.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah, I did, because I felt there was sadness behind his eyes, that's five years, that's not a long time. I don't think he was bringing that baggage in. Yeah, I did, cause I felt there was sadness behind his eyes. That's what I saw. You know what, I gotta say the first scene, the first scene when his friend, again, did he know J. Moore before? Yeah, they were old friends. Okay, fine. But that first scene when his best friend's
Starting point is 00:46:40 about to get acid poured down his throat. And he didn't care, he was just playing it cool. It was so casual. He didn't care. He did not give a fuck. You know what's interesting? You know what's interesting? That scene though, guys?
Starting point is 00:46:49 This is what I felt. Even the gangsters were playing it. Kind of, yeah. Was it? That scene is the best scene in the movie. Everybody's playing it more real. Eddie Murphy is dressed in normal clothing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:01 The minute it goes seven years later, it is as if it's everybody's in colorful suits, it's like the moon is suddenly Disneyland or a weird... I felt like the first scene was like Barry Levinson could have directed it. Yes. And then they fired him and they brought in... Barry Sonnenfeld. Except for the jug of battery acid. Now clearly, we did not love this movie, but there are some people who really did, and
Starting point is 00:47:28 now it's time for a second opinion. These are reviews from Amazon.com, people who had a different thought about this film. If you want to relax and have fun while eating popcorn, then this is the movie for you. Politely disagree. Five stars. No. What? I love that because that's just about having something
Starting point is 00:47:52 to do while eating popcorn. You don't eat an excuse, by the way. You can eat it whenever you want. Nope, this guy thinks the same. If you want to have a- Get a bag of smart food, eat it whenever you want. If you're a car, you're already eating popcorn. But while you're eating it, you need to do something. Well, if you want a secondary activity to your main activity, which is shoveling popcorn in your
Starting point is 00:48:11 fat fucking face, then you could do worse than look at this moving image. Here's another five-star review from J. Neil Schulman. Pluto Nash just tells a good, solid, well-plotted, near-future science fiction adventure story with a light touch, the sort of story that fans of Heinlein's short stories, It's Great to Be Back, and the Menace from Earth would appreciate. That's Robert Heinlein. Is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:38 No. But maybe sci-fi fans, maybe there's something of the serial nature of the sci-fi. I don't know this guy. I'm a big fan of Star Wars Space balls and Titan a and this goes right on the shelf next to those in that by the way That's a perfect order in descending order of great movie to Drek I love Spaceballs. Spaceballs is number two. Spaceballs is number two. Star Wars, Spaceballs, Titan A, Terrible Garbage, and then Pluto Nash. Those movies are like you don't share anything in common.
Starting point is 00:49:12 It's like I love Citizen Kane, I love Caddyshack. Sea of Love with Al Pacino. Abduction with Taylor Lautner. And How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. With Kate Hudson. Great film. I enjoy that Days. With Kate Hudson. I enjoy that movie. Great film. Oh my god. No you don't.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Nobody enjoys that movie. We did enjoy that movie. Great chemistry. Yeah they did. Can't be denied. You want it. Any final thoughts on this? To create that yellow dress.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Things that we have not addressed? Can we just give a shout out to the one man orchestra joke? Oh, that was pretty good. That was a joke. Made me smile. Can we talk about Randy Quaid as a robot? Do we have any clips of Randy Quaid as a robot please? Do we have any clips of Randy Quaid as a robot talking? There are no clips online for me to pull. I'm telling you guys, watch this movie just just for the Randy Quaid scenes. He's great. You know what he is like?
Starting point is 00:49:56 It's like he's a cartoon character in a movie. You know what I mean? He moves. He's a human cartoon character. He moves at crazy angles. He speaks with a modulated robot voice. He's probably more fit than a clown. You know what, I just found a clip. I can maybe, I can play it here. He's bald. He's bald with like, zapper heads, things in his head.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Did they make him taller than he is? How tall is Randy Quaid? Well, everybody knows Randy Quaid is six seven. Is he? Well, I think that's a promising basketball career. That's a universally known. He's a tall man. For sure. No but he looked much but Eddie Murphy's not a big man. No no he's teeny tiny. Yeah he's
Starting point is 00:50:30 a teeny tiny person. I also liked when Luis Guzman said that Pluto Nash was the Tito Puente of rail hopping. Yes. Which is their term for smuggling. Which I was like why make that reference that reference is at this point a hundred years old. Again, they watch Jimmy, yeah, they're not, they're watching. They were watching that Humphrey Bogart. Oh, that was a nice cut from when that guy got shot and fell down to the Humphrey Bogart movie where the same was happening. No, it's, wait, is that Public Enemy?
Starting point is 00:51:00 Is that James Cagney, Public Enemy? Yeah, that was Public Enemy. I think that was Public Enemy. It probably cost a lot to get that clip. That's why they didn't have the money for it. That clip, all the money paying Eddie Murphy twice, and on that clip of James Cagney. Would you guys recommend people watching this movie? I don't think I would. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:51:19 No, it's not even fun. It's not fun. It felt like homework. You know what I mean? Well, here's the thing. I was like, I gotta get through this. I felt bad for you guys watching. I was like, ah. At a certain point, I was like, fuck, this is interminable. How much do I have left?
Starting point is 00:51:32 And I'd only been watching 24 minutes, and I almost burst into tears. Yeah. Because there is no, it's only like a- Because your life is precious. Do you know what I mean? Your moments. My time is worth more than this.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Like, sans in an hourglass. So go the days of our lives. Don't waste it watching Google Maps. And this and in an hourglass over the days of our lives don't waste it watching It's only an hour and 34 minutes it is not a long movie I watch it in two installments. Oh, you know what it should have been a TV series Yeah, well clearly so primed it for there are more adventures out there Oh, we did the work for you on this one. Do not watch this movie. Or watch like ten minutes just to be like oh that's why this is so bad.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Well you could watch the beginning since that's the best scene. I mean yeah well that's the best scene as much as it is just like the scene that seems most like most I don't know. That's where you'll also be the most confused because you're gonna say is this a drama is this a comedy? Yeah, and you'll ask that one last thing Paul when Eddie Murphy gets a All the fixings for a martini when was Harry Johnson brings it up and he doesn't make a martini in the glass He just drinks the rod gun. He makes it in his mouth. Was that a joke? Well, of course, he didn't chew the olive also, he swallowed that thing whole. Yeah, I have a question.
Starting point is 00:52:46 There were 40 olives in that jar too. So they get to the hotel, right, they get to Lunar Beach, they check into the hotel and the guy's like, and they get tickets to see J. Moore perform. Then they get recognized. Yes, then, no, no, not yet. First, the guy's like, well, it's black ties, but we have rentals available, right? So then cut to them and they're in black tie attire, which I assume means they rented it. She has a dress that fits her like a glove.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I assume they rented this stuff. And then when Eddie Murphy gets brought up to see Rex Gardner, whatever his name is. Rex Gar-der? Carter. Carter. Rex Carter. Carver. John Carter.
Starting point is 00:53:22 John Carver from Mars. When Eddie Murphy gets brought up, he and Rex are wearing identical clothes. Yes. And why is that? So do we presume that the guy who's the criminal mastermind rented his tux as well? No, he makes everybody, he goes, well look, I'm going to wear the same tux every day. And they're like, oh, well, let's, you know, I think he's like- how do they wind up in the same? Clothes to me it's a Steve. I have to have a reference So to the fact that he can afford to get his own tux he doesn't have to rent it to me I saw him like Steve Harvey of the moon. I saw him as like he has a line of tuxes
Starting point is 00:54:02 Because he has access to everything in Eddie Murphy's brain. What? No he doesn't. So he could have cloned. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. No no no. He doesn't know the future. Nobody said, he said he has access. He can remember, he remembers.
Starting point is 00:54:13 He's on the memories. Yes but he can remember. Only from before appendix surgery? Guys, guys, there is no reason why they are in, other than they need it for, shoot him, no shoot him, no shoot him. The classic Laudville routine. You guys, you don't think that Rex Carter had a gazillion cameras in that hotel
Starting point is 00:54:31 and knew that Eddie Murphy, real good Eddie Murphy, Ploodardash was heading up that way. And had rented a tux. What? Was wearing that tux. And was like quick, get me that tux. Get me that tux for dramatic effect. Get me that tux.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Because this is gonna be great when I turn around in this chair. Get me that tux in Because this is going to be great when I turn around in this chair. Get me that tux in case we get in a scenario where a gun is loose and both of us are standing there and we need to do one of those classic shoot him, no shoot hims. Like who, who, who, how, wait what? No, they should. It's never going to make any sense. It was the way, it's everything about this movie, if it's not lazy, it's so, it's offensive on so many levels.
Starting point is 00:55:09 The guns look like super soakers. If you've ever written, they're like plastic. I've read short stories by second graders that make more linear sense in this movie. But, so do not go see this movie. Ever. But do tune in to Best Friends Forever, which is Wednesday nights, 830, 730 Central. Who has?
Starting point is 00:55:30 It takes place on the moon, ironically enough. Really? Yeah, you have two best friends who live on the moon. It's more of the adventures of Pluto Nash, right? You guys are trying to open up a club. The further adventures of Pluto Nash. It's called Best Friends Forever, call it. Pluto Nash and Bruno.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah, and London and I got zoot suits made to fit us like a glove. Is there a riot? Like a second skin. Is there a riot in any of the episodes? Yes, yes. I know that you finished your first season, but I would like to ask that if you do a second season, you should have a club owner come in, Pluto Nash come in. I love him.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Do you have a local bar that you go to in the show? Yeah, of course. What's it called? It's gonna be called Club Pluto. Please. Yeah, we're gonna do that. You're gonna want to ADR that's gonna be called Club Pluto. We never- Please! Yeah, we're gonna do that. You're gonna want to ADR that.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Please call it Club Pluto. We're gonna want to ADR that in. Also, I do love that his name is Pluto and they're on the moon, not on- But everybody else's names are like Dina and Tony and- What was it born on the moon, right? Eddie Murphy? No, I think he was born on Earth. But they talk about how they want to go back to Earth.
Starting point is 00:56:19 It seems like it would be easy to go back. I don't think he- But he also- I think he was born on- He grew up on the moon. Grew up on the moon. Remember he shows her the stars through the car window and he's like, when I was a kid, I used to come up here and look at the stars
Starting point is 00:56:28 and try and count them. And then when he went to Earth, all he wanted to do was get back to the moon. But then he hates not being on the moon, because he can't see the moon from the ground. Where did they get their vitamin D is what I wanna know. Oh, you know what we didn't talk about? Two weeks, two weeks of darkness, two weeks of light.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You know what we didn't talk about at all? Is that right? Yes, that's what he said. Night lasts for two weeks. We were just in the darkness part. Oh man. Guys, can we talk about the varying degrees of gravity that affected them throughout the movie?
Starting point is 00:56:57 Oh. Oh, I have my favorite. The bathroom, he goes up and then she just like floats back down to the ground. The laws of physics do not apply in this movie. Sometimes they can just walk around outside, but sometimes they float away. Sometimes things they throw just float around and sometimes they can throw them at each other.
Starting point is 00:57:12 It was like, I was like, is there gravity here? What is happening? My favorite part is Rosario Dawson puts on the space suit. She puts it on and goes, whee! And she just jumps up and says, that was fun. Yeah. That's the extent of her exploring weightlessness. $100 million, and there were no more zero-gravity scenes. No, there was.
Starting point is 00:57:33 There was the big shootout zero-gravity scene. By the way, every gun in this movie, whenever they shoot it, an explosion happens. Yes. No bullets. And they all sound like they all look like regular guns from now, but they go Yeah, like the laser sound is so amazingly terrible I actually thought to myself that perhaps Pluto Nash was bought the idea just from the description of and we're gonna have a fight scene in
Starting point is 00:57:58 Anti-gravity you know that that could be enough for some those that's how inception got made I Think it was about based on that last scene. On the last scene? Murphs on Murphs. That's why he signed on to do it. We're never going to make sense of it until we get the right answer. This is going to be the longest podcast ever just because we're so confused. Please, if you are involved in this movie, come on.
Starting point is 00:58:18 We should try and get Victor Vernado to call it. Victor has said some funny stories about it. I wonder if he'll now talk about it 12 years later You also your show is available you can watch it immediately online so whenever you listen to this if it's not Wednesday But you're not setting your DVRs you can watch the whole pilot episode It does it does it's usually such a chore It has to watch something. Is it made eating popcorn fun?
Starting point is 00:58:41 It does, it does. It's usually such a chore. Best friends forever, Wednesday night, 8.30. I never know where to put my eyes when I'm eating popcorn. Is there nudity in your show? Yes. Really, male nudity?
Starting point is 00:58:53 Male nudity, and then a hot scene between Lenin and I where I pull her on top of me in a bathtub and she almost drowned me. It's episode two. Wow. In episode two. This is the show. Watch the show. I am most excited to see this show
Starting point is 00:59:06 out of any show that's coming out. So that's how I feel about Betty White's Grandi Wars. I know. What are you just gonna call it? Granny's Gone Wild? I was gonna say Granny Wars. Granny Wars. That I'd see.
Starting point is 00:59:17 By the way, I'm pitching a show called Granny Wars. As always, you can follow myself, at Paul Sheer on Twitter. June, at Miss June Diane Diane Jason is not on Twitter But visit us on our Facebook page and at the earwolf comm site leave us comments questions whatever we look at them and Hopefully we'll be selling our new t-shirt very shortly So that's it for us. Thank you very much, see you next time!

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