How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: The Peanut Butter Solution

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1985 children’s fantasy film The Peanut Butter Solution. They talk about ghosts giving a boy the recipe to grow his hair back, the hair jacket, the bald song, tall Canadian cabinets, and more. (Originally Released 07/02/2020)  HDTGM will be in San Fransisco 2/3 and San Diego on 2/4!Presales: Tuesday, January 9th @ 10AM local – Tuesday, January 9th @ 11:59PM localArtist code: BONKERSGeneral on sale: Wednesday, January 10th @ 10AM localGo to hdtgm.com for tickets, tour dates, merch, and more!   For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer  This March & April HDTGM is going on tour to the UK & Ireland! Go to hdtgm.com for tix and info.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

A boy growing pubic hair down to his feet is only the fifth weirdest thing to happen in this movie. We saw the peanut butter solution, so you know what that means. Let's fall in the mediocrity of some barrage. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question out of this get paid. Hello, people of Earth. It is I, tall, John Sheer, and welcome to How To This Get Made. Today we're talking about the 1985 Canadian film, The Peanut Butter Solution, and boy, boy, how do I explain this movie? If you've not seen it, a boy loses all of his hair

because he goes into a haunted house and then ghosts gift him a recipe to grow it back but it grows back too furiously. Like it won't stop growing. And that gets the attention of a local kidnapper who has an evil capitalist plan. I mean, I guess that's just scratching the surface of what is going on in this movie. We will break this all down, but I felt like I needed to lay out some plot for you just to get in on this movie because it is bonkers.

But to do that, we have two amazing co-s. Please welcome Mr. Jason Manzooka's How are you Jason? Paul, I wonder if you noticed that you just said that his hair grows back too fast, too furiously, which is, I mean, I wonder, are you trying to intimate that this might be part of the fast and furious? Is this a, like a nascent? Is this the beginning of that story? I wonder. I mean, honestly, I was just in awe of this film as much as I am of any of the, oh, absolutely, of the Fast and Furious films. I mean, this blew me away the same way.

This was, I was gobsmacked watching this. Have never seen it, have never really even heard of it. So this is one of those great movies that we do where I put it on, I have no idea what's gonna happen. I start watching it and I was confounded by this movie. And also weirdly, very again, we're all in our homes still blah, blah, blah. Like very heartbroken for this young boy.

There is a lot of emotion. This brought up a lot of emotion for this young boy, you know? There is a lot of like a lot of emotion. This brought up a lot of emotion for this poor kid. So yeah, I'm excited to talk about it. Yeah, I have a lot to say about it. I will say and I know it's an overused term. But like I felt high while I was watching it because it was there. It just felt so bizarre.

It felt like I was totally not high while watching it, but yet everything didn't quite make sense although it linked up and I know. Yeah. Yeah. I was every turn the movie took, shocked me. I was like, wait, why would this, wait, this is what this movie's doing now?

Every turn, every act, at the end of every act when the new act started the movie became a different. Oh, let's get to it. Let's call I'm like, I'm into it. I'm surprised that you saw acts in this movie. Anyway, one of the great sadness of my life was that I did not get to watch this movie with our other co-host as I normally do. Please welcome June, Diane Rayfield. How are you June? I'm okay, Paul. How are you? I am good. I talked to me. I haven't even really gone to connect with you since you've seen this movie.

What's on your mind? This, uh, I also, I think I heard you say and then that beginning intro that, that you both walked into this not knowing much. Zero. I didn't know a thing. Yeah. Zero, so much so that when the opening credit started, I thought this isn't right. This is a French movie. I'm on the wrong. I've got it all wrong. And I thought that for probably the duration of the film. Well, now we've just learned from Paul that it is in fact Canadian, maybe even French Canadian,

which makes sense as to why everybody has accents. Everybody has accents, but the opening was also in French. I thought I was watching a French movie. Yes. Well, when they show the newspapers, it has French titles of the articles. I mean, yeah, that is, yeah.

It's Montreal, I believe. But then they go to lengths. No, I thought they said they were in Toronto. I don't know. When we looked around, it was like, when we were in Montreal shooting Longshot, like everyone, they definitely weren't in Toronto. And everybody had a French Canadian accent. But I thought that they kept on, I thought that the movie was taking place in Toronto. I just as what we didn't, I didn't even think it was Canadian because my understanding is that Canada is all little Italy's. So I kept expecting little Italy to show.

They run into them little. To me, this movie was so Canadian. Oh, I mean, this movie couldn't be more Canadian. It could not. The only way it could have been more Canadian is if they had hockey instead of soccer. Like that's the only way. Okay, first of all, that's, but, but why? Okay, I want to, I want to talk about this one.

I want to talk about all of it. We have to start for the meeting, but you bring up hockey, you bring up soccer. We did see them. We did see Michael at soccer lessons. We hear a lot about soccer and then we see, I don't did see Michael at soccer lessons. We hear a lot about soccer and then I don't think we call them soccer lessons. That was a soccer game. No, it's a game, June. That was a game. Fine. But then it's not what I call a soccer game. I'll tell you that. Listen to team learn different jerseys. You know what, you know what, these kids need to do.

Get more lessons. You know, that was, good lesson. That's what happens at the end of the game. Good lesson. Good lesson. Good lesson. Good lesson. Jason Donet, Donet Hagginais, June, because June traveled as she will tell me many times around the state as a soccer champion. Oh, yeah. I've heard, I've heard, I've heard tales. I was on a great team. I was not a great soccer player. My talents were in other sports in different athletics, but I was on a great soccer team. So, but what I was gonna say is what's crazy is all this talk of soccer,

and then the father is painting a picture of the family playing tennis. It's the badminton court in their backyard. The painting is up the, in the backyard, the sister is playing badminton, do you remember? Oh, I don't remember that. Yeah, there's like a scene where in this movie, in this movie, yes, there's a scene in which the daughter sues, it doesn't matter, but, but I, that's the connection I made. I was like, oh, that's their backyard, like little badminton court is what I believe. Yeah, he really seems to paint exactly what is going on in their lives.

So much the exception of all the dressed up birds. Oh boy, I mean, I want to, I really, and unfortunately, this is not a live show where we can break down every piece of art because the art in this movie, I mean, he is a bad artist, right? I mean, he's a bad artist. It's subjective, but yes, absolutely. Would I hang the badminton painting in my house? Absolutely. I mean, without a doubt. Having seen your collection, Jason, I do feel like that has a nice home and is in great company in your own. I would argue that the art of the little boy

looking at the toaster at his bald head would fit more in the Jason clutch and butt. Yes. Here's the thing about that piece. He never saw that happen. He was upstairs when the boy had the toaster. So he either heard tale of that or he is a mad. This is like, there was parts of this movie, Paul, where I wonder, like there were parts of it where I felt like this was almost your childhood in a way that in a way that like in a way that like the little boy is his name Michael the little boy.

Yes. Seems to be on his own in the world. You know what I mean? Like he seems to be like this is an 80s movie where like that captures this idea of like kids are just like free. Like you like like the dad is not. The generation of like the latch key kit. Exactly.

The dad is like in his attic painting away, not really dialed in, the mom is in Australia because her father passed away is like just a throwaway line. And then. Selling his house, the mom has been away for an indeterminate seemingly, I would say, if he told me she's been gone for two years, I would buy it. She's been selling his house. The mom has been away for an indeterminate seemingly. I would say if he told me she's been gone for two years, I would buy it. She's been selling his house.

The minute the son returns unconscious, you know, in a shopping cart, I would assume the mom would come back like something's up with my side. He loses. The son is having a medical situation and the mom is like, I guess I'm staying in Australia and the dad is like, ah, you're fine. Nobody cares. Nobody updated her, Jason. I believe she would have come home, staff. Up ahead.

Yeah. It didn't seem like anyone was updating her. To me, this is a cautionary tale, like for all moms out there, I never leave. I thought she was dead for most of it. I thought that the father was hiding something. Absolutely. I thought it was going to be a metaphor that he was hiding that she had died and that she was in Australia.

Like, that was how he is getting them through it because here's my theory. Seuss, the young girl, the daughter. Love Seuss. Love Seuss. Seuss really has taken over the mother position and I don't think Seuss wanted the mom to come back. At all. She seuss is like doing bills.

Yeah, she's wearing her mom's robe. She's doing like mothering. She's taking care of Michael. She's also like her relationship with her father has become very bizarre, I think. Like she's doting on, she's doting on him in a way that's that's that's weird. Like everybody, all the relationships in this movie are very familial, are very bizarre, I think. You know, the dynamic between the siblings is weird, the dynamic between the siblings

and the father, the father himself is just a bizarre character, you know. He needs to be institutionalized. I mean, you do see this happen though, where a lot of times when there's a dad and a mother either passes away or there's a divorce, the dad will make the oldest daughter, like a little mini, a little mini mom, a mini wife, and it's very, very disturbing. Oh, it's hard stories. I will say though that I was obsessed with shoes and there it's despite all this movie

is insane. There's a quality to it though, where every once in a while I was like, I am fascinated by these scenes. I believe this weird world, there was a tone to it and some of the acting like between Seuss and her brother and Connie, I was just taken with. So you're okay with close sibling relationships when they're younger.

It's once they're adults that you just, you think you don't like it. Until the age of 20. Oh, you say you have cut off. And monthly brother sister. So once they can drink, they can no longer be friends. They can be friends, but not too close. Not too close, yes, yes. I mean, I feel like I know what you're saying, June, in the sense that for me, I'll say,

the movie is straight up bananas, right? Like all of the beats, all of the plot, the plot of this movie is completely disturbing and insane. Yes. But the way it was like with like Like the movie I was gonna reference was What was the was a not cat people? What was the sleepwalkers? Was that the movie? Okay, that's the movie I was gonna reference because it was similarly like weirdly

Maybe also French, but also or maybe Canadian or something like there was a weird family dynamic in that too. And there was like a real sadness that suffused this movie that I felt like a normal 80s kid movie wouldn't have this much sadness and trouble for the lead boy, you know, for that lead character. Nothing was aspirational in this movie. Like I didn't wanna hang out with them. I didn't wanna be with them. I didn't wanna be in their house. I didn't think anything was cool. And a lot of the times

in these 80s movies, it's 19, 5, but that's Canada too. The kid gives up the kid Michael in the third act Michael gives up. He's like in an iron lung where his hair is just growing and the art teacher is turning his hair into hair brushes. He's kidnapped 20 kids. He's put them in pink keys. And, and, and when, when, when, when Connie comes to save Michael, Michael's like, ah, who cares? I'm happy enough here. Like the belief character gives up. Oh, crazy. That's so crazy. Like the narrative shifts to, to Connie and his sister, Maylin. It's so strange. By the way, Connie, become the straight. By the way, Connie. I love Connie. I love Connie.

I love Connie. I love Connie. Conrad, he is his little friend who's wearing a pretty sweet leather jacket and a black fedora. And I just want to give you like a taste of the tone of this movie. But by the way, so it really is hard to describe. Our lead character and Connie go to this scary house. Michael goes inside the house, gets a fright.

Can't believe we were at the peak. Just gets a big fright. We don't know what the big phrase is. They say, which they keep saying throughout the movie, different characters say the fright, a fright. As if that's like a term that we all recognize as like a thing we know. He doesn't even know what he doesn't even know what's scared him. He just walks in and it's like that opening scene in Ghostbusters where the librarian sees the ghosts. He's like, ah, and you know, his hair kind of just gets on edge. And then he wakes up the next morning, completely bald. And this is the moment of realization that our main character, a young boy, is completely

bald. It's him and his friend Connie sitting down at the table. I believe Connie is always wearing the fedora. Just take a listen. This is the realization moment here. Connie, I have any hair at all. I'm not much. I need a truth. Not actually.

Yeah. You take me. I'm cold. I really am bald. Like it's a, it's so lethargic. What's weird about it is like Michael, who's the little boy who has the fright wakes up and his hair is now gone. Like he is totally bald, right?

Yeah. But he arrives at the breakfast table, not aware of the fact that he is now completely bald. He doesn't have his eyes open, Jason. That's what I was just going to say. He's got his, he still has his eyes closed. And what were to believe he hasn't even touched his head. And even though his father and his sister are like, casually, oh my God, you're bald.

And then they walk out of the room like nothing's going on. And it's him and it's Michael and Connie that have the, that's when Michael finally looks in the toaster in CZS reflection. Like the father and the sister are like so blase about all of these insane things, including when Michael goes missing, that the 20 kids, 20 kids go missing in the sound

and everybody's still going to school, still hanging out 20 kids in one very small town. And now that I understand it's Canadian, it makes sense because Canadians don't care about their children. No, you know, they just they're if they can't you know, that's that yeah, that's right Canada. But by the way, here's what I'll say about Canada because I know we have a bunch of amazing

listeners there. I actually think that their parents are very chose. Like if our kid goes missing, they'll come back eventually. Like we'll figure it out. Like we'll get it back. We don't lock our doors. We know that. We know that even Canadian kidnappers are not that bad.

They will return our kid eventually. Whenever they're done using them for their capitalist plot to make paintbrushes, they'll come back. I mean, it's fine. It's one less thing I got to worry about. That, I mean, the art teacher, I could talk about the art teacher from his class to his child slave labor sweatshop to the inappropriate shoulder touching to the ripping up. I mean, the accent to the jacket made

of hair for the end of the movie. The hair jacket. He's wearing like a duster made of hair. It's like Joseph in the amazing Technicolor dream coat of hair. It's just Joseph in the MA, Sergio in the amazing Technicolor hair coat. And he's, he's wearing that coat and running through a hallway full of hair. He's also like delivering paint brushes wearing a coat made of hair. I'm really interested in in that piece of it. And I guess basically the plot because it turns out when Michael first wakes up that morning after the big fright and goes bald, um, he he does his dad and Seuss. And by the way, I was obsessed with Seuss' style and her little sweaters with like Oxford shirt. And I just thought she was

so great. Did Seuss go to school, by the way? I don't know. I mean, she's the homemaker now. Yeah, I think she was talking about getting a part time job at the bank. I think she's a bad guy. I think she's not for her real estate license. 12 year old bank teller. But when they go to that doctor, Epstein, Poundstein, Epstein was his name also has an accent. Well, well, it doesn't it end up that he's that doctor who's also not that concerned that Michael woke up without any hair. Yeah, everyone's pretty positive. Okay, so turns out though that he's the art teacher's brother. And also the art dealers brother. And also the art brothers. So there. So these brothers are basic,

basically make up 40% of the population of this town. Yes, this is little Italy. They all. This movie has like five, basically five characters in it. It's it's it's our it's soos. It's the dad. It's the it's the son who's bald, Connie, and then the three brothers. I mean, that's it. That's a principle who's got a British accent. The principle's got a British accent and then the math teacher and oh, and Connie's younger sister as well. A bit later comes in later in the movie.

So, but here's my question. So turns out we find out that the art dealer had been new where his brother, his twin brother, the Italian art teacher was and the doctor led them to that art dealer. Bava, bava. Is there any world in which this was a big master like in which the art teacher, Signod, was why you're really putting a real spin on that. You're leaning in on it, but plotting this from the beginning so that no

one would question what was happening to this kids here. Oh, so the doctors playing it very well, here's the thing. The doctors like playing it very much like that's not a big deal, but there is no hair factory without Michael. But this seemed to be like he was kidnapping these kids before, I mean,

or at least he can definitely really quickly. Yeah, well, he really only, like, yeah, it's only when, because I don't think to your point, June, I don't think senior could have planned this because the recipe comes from ghosts. Yes, the recipe. And but he's not involved in that. So and I just want to reiterate because we have not said this yet in the podcast. Yeah, we haven't talked to him.

What the peanut butter solution even is. The recipe for the recipe for how to grow hair comes to Michael via ghosts. That's part of the movie was where those ghosts also, and I'm going to use the term that he's in the movie. I'm not saying this is an acceptable term. The winos because when Michael gives a wino a dollar, that seemed like that was the one of the ghosts. I was a little confused and I almost rewound to try to figure it out. And then honestly,

I just, well, I can very quickly, yes, very quickly, what I can say is my understanding from a very thorough watching of this movie was the house that burned down was being used as like a squat for homeless people, what they're calling winos, who are also, we see Michael give one of the winos money. Yeah, very nice. Very nice. The bank. He also has a pretty fat. Like he has a lot of money for a kid is a Joe surprised to see him peeling off like some paper money for a wine. Oh, the kids, the kids rich, you know, he sees out there.

It's, but it's, but keep in mind it's Canadian money. So it's not real. Anyway, so, so the, I think this act of kindness that Michael gives this, this, uh, this, uh, wineau money and then they die. They then start to, and so the fright, do we ever understand what the fright was? Was it just that he'd seen dead bodies? What was the, I thought the fright was that he saw those winos as ghosts. They don't really, because the second thing he goes into the house, he's there.

But so that kind of defeats the purpose of, he was nice to the winos, but then they gave him a fright, unless you're right, maybe he just saw a dead body. Like, that's what I know. Yeah, that's true. We never get that answer, but regardless,

to repay that kindness where the kid has paid them, the ghosts visit him in his dreams and give him a recipe to grow hair, which is what is the peanut butter solution. It's all these different ingredients, but again, this doesn't happen until like an hour into the movie. What you're saying right now, by the way, Jason,

is insane. But it doesn't happen for like, it's an hour, like I thought this movie was gonna be about the struggles of a kid who loses his hair, he tries wearing a wig and it was gonna be about him like coming to terms with what his life, you know, being bald and what that means and what hair means for kids and that, that all this and like that he's going to, you know, that it's going

to be like a story about being an outsider or feeling like an outsider, like an inverse teen wolf basically. What was that movie where it was about someone who had like, it was an albino and he like wore a fedora powder powder. Yes. So they get. Yeah, I thought it would be a little bit more powder-esque. But that's not the case. It's this other movie with ghost and concoctions. And then he, he puts too much peanut butter in and he grows hair at a rate that is visible. Like, he's visibly growing hair. He's growing hair. But he's going here, from the minute they recognize that hair is growing. By the way, we skipped one piece of crucial information.

He is visited by these ghosts who are raiding his kitchen to take stuff back to wherever they live in ghost world. But then when he fucks up the solution because the parents or the dad thinks he's gonna make it to eat it They they come back the next night to be like all right. You didn't write down the recipe We're gonna help you because you're a nice boy like they bait the ghosts come twice They came the second time because he forgets the recipe I think it's like a funny. I like I like the first scene where they're making so much noise and he comes in He's like stop making so much noise. You're gonna wake my dad and they're like no close your eyes and then they make all the noise but

you can't hear it I was like oh this is kid logic that I like I like that this movie has a logic to these ghosts because yes they're disruptive but but what's the point if you're a ghost of loading up boxes of food yeah my assumption is assumption is the dad's not going to come down and open the cabinets. And I don't think that food is leaving. I'm also going to say one thing. And it's a home design issue. And I just need to get it off my chest. The cabinets were way too tall.

Because when the father puts the girl on his shoulders, she's almost able to reach the top shelf of the cabinet, which means that anyone in that house would have to use a step ladder any time to get anything out of that pantry. Those are Canadian cabinets. That's what my interior designer calls them, Canadian cabinets, if you want. If you want to really high tall cabinets,

we can install it. It's like a California king size bed. Manu Bol was a cabinet maker, and only made cabinets for himself. Well, remember, we were convinced Paul in the other house to build that vanity in the bathroom with like very high. This guy told us like, oh, you're both tall people. You need your sink needs to be taller.

And then it was the best advice. Do you think so? Yes, because it was at our waist, we could actually like, you didn't have to bend down that much. I think people who were shorter were kind of unnerved by it, but But I think in selling the house that was troubling because it was so We had nine foot counters. We had nine Wait a second. You think you think it affected the resale value of the house because the sink was so tall?

Definitely if you're a short person, there's no way like you literally can't wash your face. You know the way the way that they're the way that they're scanning people's temperatures before they go into stores, we had a sign out in our front lawn that said if you're not six feet, you can't come into look at that house. We were very hi-dest. Must be this tall to use sink. I mean, you can invite over the shorties all you want for the guest bathroom. It's fun. But you have to make them sign a waiver. Yeah, but make them sign a waiver because listen, this is dangerous for someone you're a height to be. I don't want you to drown. I did like that they were a higher sink. I

appreciate it. I did too, but I thought thought a few times about one of the people who bought the house and how she's fairing in there. I mean, she's a lot shorter than us. Oh yeah, Su's, meanwhile, poor Su's is making every meal, making, you know, like when is she living her life? When is it time for Su's to live her life? I don't know. I, I don't know.

I wanted to see Su's and Connie get something together. I felt't know. I don't know. I wanted to see Susan Conny get something together. I felt like they had something. Paul, what? Ew. Well, no, ew. No, I'm not saying I want to see them. I didn't want to say like I wanted to see them have sex. And this is weird because when you shared your screen earlier, when you shared your screen

earlier, there was an open window that did seem like you were writing fan fiction for Susan Conn. Well, yeah, I mean, as adults, they reconnect over this crazy, uh, that's why it was called the reunion. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm very, I love Richard Linkletter and this is kind of very much like before sunrise, uh, you know, that kind of a thing. So peanut butter solution is the first one. This is 30 years later and we're kind of catching up with them. It's I think it's beautiful Here's what I don't understand so Connie ends up using the peanut butter solution to grow pubic care

Yes, and that's of crazy moment. I want pubes He would want story His story is very unsettling because Michael's story. Yes, we're watching Michael grapple with this insane thing that's happening to him, which is he's growing hair at a rate that he cannot control, right? And it takes over his life. He gets kicked out of school. It gets him in trouble.

Teachers, teachers literally say, yeah, well, resign because your hair is growing too much. Like, they're not, not because they're not upset that his hair is growing that much. Well, maybe they are. They are, they don't want, which I did appreciate. They don't want his hair to be clipped during class, because it's distracting, which I can understand. Yes, the principle is like the scissors, the cutting of the scissors cutting is, you know, I get it. I get it. I was very uncomfortable watching that.

It was distracting. It's really distracting. The Connie's just filling up paper bags full of Michael's hair during math class. That would be very weird. If that was happening to my math class I would be like what the fuck is going on. I also think that Connie was doing a bad job of cutting here. Why is he being so gentle and trimming just cut it like make a big just cut it from the back. He just get clippers. Yes, and then you could do it once a once a period, but I will say that those kids

are cheering for. I never knew what. There are several moments in the movie where the kids are cheering. He's like, I want to learn. You can't kick me out of here. I need to learn. And the kids are like, yeah, he does. Just because he has hair. I mean, by the way, when he didn't have hair, he was ostracized.

But when he had too much hair, he was embraced as a ball. Did you relate to that ball? Yeah. As a ballman, I relate to this and I see it and I hate these kids who automatically had a bald song at the ready when I was like, how did they have a taunt ready to go? Like, one of these kids running into bald children when they rip his wig off and the glue and you see it and he's on the soccer field. The soccer field where there's no net where they kick a ball through the goalpost and some

kids just have to run really far to go get the ball. But they have this song. I want to play this ball song really quick. Devon, if you just drop that in, Paula, you're going to be okay to hear this. I mean, it's going to be hard. This is going to be a boy, I'm not going to be quick. Run up the mommy, hard for a day. Hey, you love the mommy without a stupid way.

Do you see what I mean by senior's expression there? It seems like he's plotting something already just by looking at him. Well, I think what they're doing is they're like, they're having you have, and there's another scene later. So they're having you clock senior notice him bald, and then there's a later scene where he sees him like with crazy hair, and that's when senior Adam's family.

Yes, that's when I feel like senior makes the connection and is like, oh, wait a minute, I can use that, you know, give me some of that. But senior is fired. This flow and locks. Seniors fired because he's not creative yet. He so he kind of wants to penalize the art world by making very overpriced brushes. Is that kind of it? He is fired, Paul, because he's harassing the students. But, man, the principal finds out he's been fired from two other schools. His changed his look is a fraud.

Has been arrested for like for passing off forged paintings. He's a criminal. By the way, should have done that background check before he started. By the way, this is Canada. They trust you there. Yeah. If you just show up in Canada and say I want to teach kids, they're like, sure, go ahead. They're just Canadian kids. They're pretty much like, we just let him roam free.

Yeah. I heard that Trudeau just kind of walked into the Prime Minister's house and was like, I'm going to take the sofa and be like, all right, cool. Seems like he knew what he was doing. I will say this though, senior, and I think is what they were trying to show, was senior hated imagination. He didn't like seeing kids like when Michael drew

the picture of the dog, senior has a dog, and he uses his dog as part of the art class. When senior displays his dog, and Michael draws flames around the dog, he's like, no, no, no, there's no flames there. He's cutting off kids imaginations. And so I think what he wants to do is say, you know what, fuck this art world with their imaginations and their beautiful creations. My brother makes a money off of this. I'm going to charge the artist more money than they'll ever need for this magical or for this regular paintbrush because fuck the art

world. I don't like imagination. He is basically- But then when we go to senior's child slave factory, he's paint, this is where it gets- This is where I was like, what is happening? What is happening? Senior himself is painting paintings that are so magical, that are so magical worlds that you can step inside of them and disappear into the paintings.

Where is this paintbrush, this hair paintbrush has something in it that you only need to dip it in one color. Yeah, the peanut butter solution. But it's not the peanut butter solution. He dips it in. It's there. No, but the hair has the peanut butter. The hair has been grown from the solution, but the hair has the peanut butter. The hair has been grown from the solution.

But the hair is magic. But if Michael fucking listened and didn't put more peanut butter in it, they told him the ghost told right, don't use more peanut butter. Like his hair would have just been normal. So does Michael deserve it? Yeah, he kind of does. Wow, Michael is the villain. Wow.

This is wild. They told him don't use too much people. Okay, but here's what they don't understand. So what I was saying before though about Connie is so Connie is just not the yes, Connie says that he wants pubic care. And which is a just the that whole sequence is very upsetting realizing it's it's growing out of the bottom of his pants. Well, it's coming down his leg on both sides. It's a number of times. Who is it?

The teacher somebody that says, and, and it looks like you've got a little problem as well. And he hasn't noticed that his pubic hair is pouring out of his, pouring out of his pants bottom. And what's so interesting about it is, I mean, it forced me to go down the rabbit hole of like wow if pubic care were to Grow that long like would it look like that like would it look long and so Like that because actually pubic care is a very different type of texture But again peanut butter solution Could you say that a solution?

We've had peanut butter solution. Could you say a solution? We've had peanut butter solution. I'm glad that's just something now that once it's said, it has to be said by everybody. I like it. I was like, I was like, you know, this is a movie that could, they could have just donated all this hair to locks of love or like they were, they were backing it up. You know, I was just going to ask, do they accept you be care because I, I'm willing to, I don't know, does locks of love or locks for love, well, I'm not sure what it's called. Um, I just know that it's, it, they take hair, uh, you have to cut it in a

very specific way for them to check it. Like, so how many inches of hair do you have to tie off to send to them and does it matter what kind of hair? That's all I'm asking. I mean, look, the way that the way that that hair came out of his legs. I think anyone would be happy to have that as a wig. That's what I'm saying. It looks like a great. It looks like silky healthy. Healthy hair. Yeah. Oh, thriving. Of course it's me, but this is what I was going to say though, Paul, is when Connie, when Connie wakes up one night and he's tossing and turning

within his pubic hair, all he has to do is say stop. Stop. That's what I wanna ask. He does it, stop. Yes. Because he wakes up. This is like a scene from a horror movie. Yeah.

He wakes up and he's like, it's itchy, it's itchy. And then he looks down and his pubic hair. Oh, God. Is growing across the floor visibly A tentacle like this child's movie That's what I want to know like and so and he just says basically cut it out and it does Okay, can I tell you yeah something a deleted scene which I found on you on YouTube as this movie is on YouTube It's also on Amazon prime, but the deleted scene on YouTube, when he yells stop, his voice

changes and it would change for the rest of the movie. He was dubbed by another actor. They changed that at the last minute. So his voice became super low. Like, he goes, stop. Stop. Oh, so it's like pu- it's like puberty basically? Yes.

So he basically goes through puberty in this movie. They kind of, I guess, last minute change it because it was in the trailer for the film, but not necessarily. So wait. So if Michael goes through puberty, then he'll be able to stop the growth of his head here. No, because it's a different thing. His seems to be related to the fright. Oh my gosh.

Okay. But Michael has to give the fright to somebody else for him to the fright. Oh my gosh. Okay. But Michael has to give the fright to somebody else for him to get here. Yeah, there's a lot of magic that I don't under, the movie, here's the thing, the movie is full of magical characters, but no rules, right? No, like there are ghosts, there is a fright,

there are paintings you can walk into, there's all this kind of magical stuff that are terrible art. That facilitates things happening, but none of it, and nobody ever seems to be trying to put together, what are the rules of this so we can either succeed with it or we are trapped or we're failing at it? It doesn't, there's no, there's no exposition, there's no characters there's no exposition. There's no characters who

are seeking information like the Seuss and the dad and everybody is just kind of like freestyle. Ideally, Michael should have been tricked by someone to go in that house to get the fright so they would get their hair back because it seems like that's what he's got to do. He's got a trick senior to go in there and get the fright because then he gets his hair back. But then it doesn't explain how the peanut butter solution stops. Connie does that though. And it seems as though it just occurs to him to do that.

He doesn't, that's not his plan, you know, I mean, that's what I couldn't figure out is why, why is everybody in the dark all the time and just kind of like going with it? Well, when Connie is kidnapped, he quickly comes up with a great cover story that his parents are dead, to which the kids verbally out loud, just like, is that true? Is his parents dead?

And then like, one kid or even runs up to him, is like, is your dad dead? He's like, shut up. Look at him. Like, is this his dad dead? No, I don't think we know. Oh, no. Do we know for sure not?

I don't know that he's not, because that last scene when the mom eventually comes home for that final moment and they're all hugging, I felt so sad for Connie. They're all hugging and Connie is just soos. The dad, the mom, Michael, and you feel like everything's gonna be okay. And then they just cut to Connie,

just watching them smile. Connie leaves his sister at the lair. Well, Connie grows home with the... But not only that, but when Connie gets to the lair and is seeing like this, this child factory, he says to someone, I'm here to save Michael. No mention of the fact that his sister is missing. His sister is missing. His sister is missing.

All right, so this is a bombshell. When we find out that Connie's sister is kidnapped, like, we're freaked out because Michael's kidnapped and then Connie just kind of drops it into casual conversation. This is Connie talking about the missing kids. Take a listen. I think it's gone mad. But it's not his fault. 20 other kids were missing from school. I think it's gone mad. But it's not his fault.

20 other kids were missing from school. 20? I thought we'd tend. No, 20, including my Lynn, my baby sister. That's terrible. Now if we can only get dad going. Change of topic, that's it. Is that what does that mean get dad going?

Like because the dad has lost his mind at this point, he's been snapping his brushes. He's like, he's too like in his head. He's crazy. Again, no police. There's no police presence. There's no, nobody seems to be actively working out. There's just newspaper headlines, increasing number of children missing. But look at Sue, Sue's doesn't even ask a follow up. He basically is like, yeah, and my sister is kidnapped too. Like, he doesn't seem to be bothered. They are reporting. She's unfazed on face. They're reporting facts as though like they, this is something that's happened in a town far, far away that they have no personal connection to.

Suze is just relaxing in that scene. She's like, out and he's like including my baby sister. Yeah. And including my baby sister, he says and she doesn't change at all. She's just like, huh, if only we could get dad going again. Duh, duh. It's almost like he was like my favorite thing to eat is like peanut butter sandwiches and she's a cool. Yeah, you know, we gotta figure out my dad.

Like it is treated as a non-set order, not like I'm also in the same fucking crazy situation where my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my. And their solution is maybe we'll just, let, listen, I've got, no, yes, the peanut butter solution, there's a solution, maybe I'll just go back, like again, there's 20 missing kids.

And their, their plan is to go and buy the dad new brushes so he can start painting again And their plan is to go and buy the dad new brushes. So he can start painting again, so that he can get his mind back, so he can help them find the missing children. That's their plan. So when they go to the art supply store, they just happen to find a brush made, a keep in mind.

These are two people whose siblings are missing. Their siblings are gone and the thing they're doing is going and buying paint brushes so that the dad can wake up. Okay. Accidentally are like, you know what this brush reminds me of something, wait a minute, I've cut this hair before. This is Michael's hair. By the way, it looks like a beautiful brush.

Well, okay, I've never seen a brush like that. I've never seen a brush with hair just like flopping over and it actually doesn't look like Michael's hair. It looks like Connie's pubes. Okay, listen. It did not look like Michael's hair. Michael's hair is light. Yes, I like like British blonde. And also like why I don't understand why any artist would ever pick up. Like is he actually selling these paint brushes? Because I, you know, I used to paint. I haven't painted it a long time. I've never seen a brush that looks like that.

You in high school weren't you part of a traveling painting team? Yes, we would go travel from school to school. Yeah, I will say for paint competitions. Yeah, when I was in Japan with my dad, we did some calligraphy together and I used brushes very similar to that. And I looked at that brush and I thought, what, I would love to.

What? That was a giant, that brush was like 12 inches long and the hair itself was flopping over. I mean, it didn't look like you could get a... You look like a horse's tail or something like that. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've seen brushes or at least when I had horses,

like we had like a crop that had like set sort of like a... Wait, what? And you make key brushes out of their tails? You had horses? Wait, I'm focused on when we had horses. Oh, yeah, Paul had horses. He was actually kicking my face by a horse and has a scar. What? Yeah. What are you talking? How do this is? Wow. Wow. He literally like throwing a big fan.

Wow. Wait a minute. Can I ask an honest question, Paul, were you raised by horses? I look, they were part of my life. And, you know, and I think that, you know, that everybody around me, I contributed to my parenting, the miseducation of Paul's here. But the horses were like, we want that, we want that Tabasco V8. I was planning to hide and go seek with my babysitter,

and I hid behind a horse. And the horse was getting maybe like something behind them. So he gave a little bit of a kick and the corner of its hoof sliced open my cheek and kind of threw me backwards. It wasn't like a full kick to the face. It was, but you got, you got hurt. I got, I got many stitches.

Yeah, I got many stitches from the sharpness of the hoof. And, and did they let you put down that horse? A nice revolution. You know, I honestly, they made me apologize to the horse for hiding behind him and that, you know, that was something I really took with me. But I will say, but you do have a special connection to horses and all that animals, but specifically horses.

You really think so? Absolutely, absolutely. Well, I wasn't saying that one of the horse crops I used to use looked a little bit like that. I had to look a little bit more of a tail like that, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm misrembring that. I don't know. I don't think it's possible that you were riding a horse with a giant paintbrush instead of a crop. By the way, can we just talk about these kids are making 500 brushes a day, right? And there's 20 kids. So that means that they're making 10,000 brushes.

I guess they all have to make 500 a day. So they're making 10,000 brushes a day. Oh my gosh, great question Paul, because this is what it was so crazy about this movie. Like, this art teacher is now building a giant business. Whether he's spending, that he seems to only be going to one very small art store in Toronto one day a week. I don't know how many other art stores there are,

but where is he pushing this product? You know, and if it's such a good product, like why not scale it up, you know, go on shark tank or something and be like, listen, sharks, I'm senior. These are the brushes. These are the magical brushes, you know, well, I mean, the key why is he has, he seems to need more and more brushes. Like he is being able to sell 10,000 brushes. By the way, I just want to say that as we were talking, I did Google it. I was not wrong.

There is such a thing as a horse hair crop. I'm sending it to you guys now. You can all enjoy it. So I felt nervous to embrace that much. I knew about where to put it in the chat. Put it in the chat. Put it in the chat. Put it in the chat.

So yeah, I did use a magical crop. You know, whenever I did hit my horse with it We would go into a magical landscape where we'd ride over rainbows and go into like marshmallow castles I mean I never thought about it. Yes dump it in the chat I sent it to you over email The way that I would you go in the chat Just like my cram it in the chat Oh, just like my cram it in the chat. Yeah.

How did this get me? How did this get me? So 10,000 brushes a day, the kid is on a diet of yogurt. They mention that very casually. I mean, that is not good. I mean, that is not good. A diet of yogurt, like he's sedated on a diet of yogurt. Let me, can I ask a quick question about that specifically?

Cause I wrote that down too. I was like that would insinuate that somehow uh... yogurt or dairy or something like that was part of the peanut butter solution or was part of the hair growth process like that he that the senior would be feeding michael something that is promoting the continuation of him to keep growing hair

but it seems like no that is not the case. He's just only feeding Michael yogurt, which is not, I mean, Michael must be lying up in that thing, growing hair at an alarming rate, just having diarrhea constantly. Listen, I mean, he doesn't need any conversation about this last night because I thought yogurt was maybe causing our son to have like a lactose intolerant reaction. And he said there wasn't any milk in or I mean, that was a kid yogurt was a was a savior for me because I thought I could always eat that. But maybe there is there is lactose in here. There's lactose in yogurt. It depends on what yogurt you're getting. Okay. So if it's Greek yogurt, then you probably don't have a problem, right? Well, anything Greek is totally cool. Yeah. But basically Greek yogurt is good for lactose

intolerant people. That's that's the thing. Yeah. By the way, the thing that you just emailed us, I can't open the picture. Wish you would have put it in the chat. You know, I wish you would just shove it in this chat so I can check it out. But the way you did put in the chat though is again, just a link to your fan fiction about Connie and Sue lead it in a romantic relationship in their 30s. It's funny. It's funny and it's sweet. I don't think I don't think Benagans is going to appreciate being mentioned so much in this. You don't think I'll come on. I mean, people love Benagans is gonna appreciate being mentioned so much in this. You don't think, oh, come on. I mean, people love Benagans.

It's such a great, it's such a great pro. I mean, we want, it's retro guys. I feel like you don't get me. You never got me. I can't speak, I can't speak to, oh, the other thing is when senior has his child slave factory making these paintbrushes, he also has put them all in dyed like pink or orangeish, orangeish geese, which is like padawans. Yes, they're all white.

So they're all, yeah. I had a question because when senior is teaching, he's not really, he's wearing both like a suit and then something over it, which I thought maybe was supposed to be a smock but looked like a judge's robe. Yeah, wait a second. Are you talking about the hair robe? Oh, no. No, no. Later, it becomes a hair robe. He was dressed more like an old school music professor. That's what I kind of thought.

It was like a cape. He was wearing like, he was dressed, actually I think the best that have all the teachers there. And I thought he carried himself with it. He was dressed like a professor at like Hogwarts. Yes, exactly. I felt like he was wearing wizards robes in a way. Like I agree, he was not wearing what an art teacher would traditionally wear.

Like some sort of smock or something like that. He was dressed like he was wearing like robes, which was, he doesn't like. But by the way, Jason, I mean, I've never read Harry Potter, but JK has to shut the fuck up. Oh, I don't even, it's not great. It is. The fact that you're doubling it down is, it is a tough, tough look. It is again for like I have such a wonderful relationship to those stories and all of that, but it is a heartbreaking look from JK, not good, not good. All that. No JK, JK, not doing good.

JK, no, okay, JK. Well, I'm gonna work, I'm gonna workshop it, but it is, it's, it's, it is, it's unsettling and very unfortunate. Dispickable. The horse hair crop is now in the chat. So everyone can look at the horse hair crop. Oh, God, this is a Pinterest. Okay, I see it. I see what this is. I don't like the look of this. I don't like this. This is unsettling to me. I wish I hadn't seen this. It looks like, it looks, it does. It looks like someone's ponytail was cut off and it was attached to wood. And that's what I used to use when I would ride my horses in the backyard. No wonder they kicked you. By the way, I don't want people to think that I grew up in a very rich neighborhood. I grew up in a very poor neighborhood that I've just oddly had a corral in our backyard.

Like, to me, when I think back on it now, it's comical that we had like a barn in our backyard in a very little area for our horses too. Well, you were a human, you were the only human boy in a horse town, right? Yeah, I mean, you know, the mayor McHorse treated me with much respect. Mayor McHorse, just like Mayor McChese. Yeah, they knew each other. He took over for him after this pay for pay. I can't believe an Irish horse was elected mayor. I'm going to just play the moment where, um, where Sinjor, uh senior shows off his evil lair to Connie here just it's a great moment

here we go. So inspector you will never come again in my class. Wes, now you are in the class which I never dismiss. Oh yeah, I'm going to escape. I'm going to free all your prisoners. Je vais vous dire, je suis très frère, vous êtes prisonniers. Mais pourquoi ? Ils sont là, vous êtes là ! Tu ne te rends pas !

Oui, c'est moi ! Vous savez, il n'y a pas de inspecteur. Mais non, je sais pas. Vous pouvez me faire un petit peu de ceci. But no, what I am saying, you can make precious sit-down connissit-down. I mean, show you what to do. I go to make deliveries. I think these Canadian kids like being there. I think that they liked having a little bit more focus in their daily life. I mean, it's more active than their school, you know, that's for sure.

By the way, did you see in the background that the dog was also wearing a hair shirt? Yes, yes. I thought I just saw that in the clip. I was like, is the dog also wearing a jacket made of Michael's hair? And what's going on? He's making so much hair. And then here's my final question, not final, but one of my final ones.

Senor has a deeply Italian accent. His brother rabbit has none. And his other brother, Dr. Epstein, has none either. So why is he yours? No, they both have accents, they have French accents. Oh, they're French? Oh, I thought they're French was, okay, I thought that was much more subdued than,

I mean, it's much more subdued than... It's a different accent than senior, which is I think them trying to throw us off like they're not like from this like if they, but they first because I wrote down at some point every single character except adult except the father has an accent, whether it's British or French or Italian or everybody pretty much has an accent. But you're right, seniors is Italian, whereas the other brothers are just French, which is very weird. Strange. And I mean, I keep on coming back to this, but like, what

does senior want out of this? Does he? Because we know he has not named his company. He doesn't. He's, you know, looking at all those boxes of magical human hair brushes that are ready to go. He does, where are they going? And what have these orders come in? And the brother who's really want to make money. Yeah, the brother who's the art dealer, though, seems to be when they show, okay, so Susan or father, make finally, they make the connection. And that they're all brothers. They go to the art dealer and they're like hey we need to find your brother

he's got twenty kids he's kidnapped twenty children and the art dealer knows seemingly knows this and is not interceding in what is arguably a child slavery ring. Who knows what's going on? He's turning a blind eye because the brother is supplying him with paintings. Question mark, because he says, if I tell you, then he won't, I won't get any more of his paintings. So he's, I'm assuming selling senior artist paintings for my, I don't know. I don't know.

But I, and then they were like, well, he's like, but I won't see him again until Friday. Can everyone to today, can everybody get into the paintings? I don't know. Is everyone able to walk into those paintings? Because when they bring Connie into that one room where all the paintings are displayed in that black, like kind of void, they say, these are magical and you can kind of enter into them. But like, so is rabbit selling paintings that you can enter?

And how would even senior know, oh boy, I mean, there's a whole market out there. There's a lot of stuff going on. Like basically, Senora is cornering the market of creating a new style of painting and also the brush to do the painting. He's the apple of painting. Well, it would almost be like, I mean, again,

this movie uses magic and magical stuff in a way that normal movies would make it the thrust of the movie and that this movie is just kind of, part of it, a little bit. But like, if we follow this through to its logical conclusion, there are people who have hung paintings in their homes that they can walk into.

Yes. Right? Like, that's what's happening, and that's not part of it. Like, I would like to see a sequel where someone's just standing in their living room and they walk into a painting and are in like this magical waterfall world or whatever, you know? Right. I would love that. I mean, by the way, that would be very interesting.

And I'm also, it's like, if I'm Michael's dad, I'm like, give me some of that hair. Like, what about me? I, I have a laying artist. Why wasn't his dad being proactive enough to cut that hair and use it as a brush? I mean, instead of just trying to put it in garbage bags and toss it to the curb, I mean, that's what they were just doing. By the way, did you guys know it? Garbage bags full of hair full just like full black plastic giant first band name. Big bags full of hair. Yeah, I mean, can you imagine coming across that?

So I imagine opening a garbage bags scene. It's all here and being like what must have happened? What happened? What's this story? Because it's all the same human hair. I was eating. I bet someone got a fright. I started to eat breakfast burrito and then about at the hour mark of this movie, I was like, Oh, I can't eat food during this.

I have a strict rule I never eat during any of our movies because I never know. I need I have really the urge to wake you up last night, June to make you watch this with me because I really know. I need I am really to wake you up last night June to make you watch this with me because I really needed to see it. Did you guys recognize the voice behind the sultry songs in this film? No, it's the one and only miss Celine Dion. It was Canadian, of course. And it's total sense. I did notice the last song I was like that that's interesting is the last song when that That started I was like wow. This is a really powerful Yeah, sensual song of course it's Celine all right. Let's hear let's hear just because we can understand the words a little bit the

The Michael song the first song Oh, this is her singing in O.M. Oh, this is her singing in O.M. Everything you see, everything you find, the darkest memories are complete when you open your eyes. I love that. That's the wineau. So this is when it gives money to the wineau. These are fully edited music videos and they'll play a little bit of magic, man, the French one. Just so you get a taste of the different type of songs. But these are made into full music videos for Canadian television, because, and I didn't want to tell you this at the beginning, this movie is All, a series of children in the film.

That's the opening title, said, yeah. Yes, and most of these tales for all included scary things and things like dogs. Okay, so this is like a goose bumps kind of thing for Canada? Yes, yes, that's what it seems to be. Maybe. Is Celine Dion always involved or is this just in this movie? Just this one because she was cornered at a radio studio and they made her agree to sing it.

Skippy peanut butter paid for product placement and these were also turned into books. So there were books here too. The dog who stopped the war is one of the most famous ones. There's also a book in Brocky. I kind of feel like we have to dig in on this series. This is kind of, like there's 25 of this. There's 25 in the recurring theme is dogs and ghosts. There are a lot of dogs and ghosts in here.

And here's just the French magic man song. It's called Listen to the Magic Man. And so just so you know when you're listening to this, it looks like a beautiful movie of about a magic man with a magical paintbrush. The kids are excited. She's excited. She's in one of the paintings. It's not really letting you know the horror of this film. I mean, it's the scene is like a child predator who is kidnapped 20 children and is forcing them to watch him paint a magical painting that he then walks into. I mean, it's also interesting to see like super young Celine Dion. Yes.

Because I don't, I feel like when I become aware of her, she's already had a full, I mean, must have been a full career in Canada. That I just, I knew she was Canadian and all that, but I didn't know she'd been, because she looks like a teenager here, you know. She, yeah, she looks like, this is like her Debbie Gibson, you know, like electric phase.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say this, this movie has frightened many a kid, has lived in their memory. It's become iconic. These Celine Dion songs they think in Canada are incredibly iconic. They're great songs. They actually have good melody to it. They're fun to listen to. But I wanted to kind of read you

some opinions about this movie because obviously we are baffled by it. And we're joined by a legion of people that have been baffled and terrorized by this movie. So this is not as much of a second opinion as a shared opinion. We now present to you second opinions. You are dead, you are dead, you are dead.

We'll see, we'll see, we'll see. So movie was a piece of shit. Yet this person recommends it. Tell me what is the message. Maybe that art is subjective. I need to second up in you. That of course was John L'Ajoire. And I will tell you that when John came on the show

to do whatever Steven Seagal movie he did, I think Glimmerman, he said to me, if you ever do this movie, you need to find it, you need to do this movie. And I never really had heard of it, but he's from Canada, and he knew it. And so I've always kept this in the back of my head. And these reviews are crazy. The reviews are, yeah. Can I ask you Paul, Paul Andrew, and I, were you guys aware of this movie as kids? And I've never heard of this movie. Okay, okay, okay, okay, good, good, good.

Okay, I didn't know if this was one of those things that I just somehow missed and was ubiquitous, or but no, it sounds like not, okay. No, and basically most of the reviews follow a format like this. I didn't, but I thought this is a nightmare that I had as a child. I'm so relieved to know that it's actually real.

Like that is, it's kind of deeply in everyone subconscious. And this one starts off with creepy pretty rights. This is a crazy, creepy children's movie that will leave you wondering what the hell you just watched. Something my boyfriend watches, a little kid that gave him nightmares and left him wondering if this movie could possibly exist. Dot, dot, dot, it does.

Five stars, title ruined childhood. Wow. Wow. I, you know, I can see that. This is, this would be an unsettling movie. As to, to see it as a kid, you know, it would be, it would be, because there's no rhyme or reason tragedy just befalls this boy. It really is bizarre.

And this is, there's a lot of like connection over this film too. Like this person writes, this is Jake the snake, not the actual snake. Not the actual one. Jake the snake, Robert the wrestler. Because I am super excited to be able to watch this again. I just ordered a copy. Thank God no one wanted to buy my VCR at the last three yard sales. No, wait a minute.

I was so, I was just Jake the snake is having so many yard sales cannot unload a VCR. Can you get that VCR to move. I was talking about old TV shows to this girl at work and this movie came up. I was floored that she knew what I was talking about. I've tried to explain this movie to others and they think I'm crazy, but she will flip out when she sees that I got this film

for her birthday. She will be 34 dot, dot, dot, so mate. I think so. Five stars. I don't like that. I don't like it. I don't like that he's created a fantasy where this woman is his dream girl

and he's revealing it on an Amazon review. Oh. This one is simple. It's from Matt Goldie. He writes, there's something about the tunes in this movie that will put you in a deep trance. I had an extreme out of body experience watching this movie, which wouldn't have been possible without the music. Highly recommend this for a good trip. Five stars, title, subliminal

messages, galore. And then I'll just read this final one from Renee. And the title is Celine's husband, Renee. Oh, maybe written in 2004, it is possible. Renee writes, Oh, man, million explanation points. This movie must be seen.

I have a neighbor who I was trying to describe this movie to and I just came off sounding insane. My description was vague since I was so young when I saw it. There was this bald kid who had no hair. He mixed like 15 dead flies into his pina putter and he put it on his head in the shower, then his hair grew so fast, they made paint brushes from it, then a bunch of kids found a huge scary picture and actually walked into it. My buddy was like, whoa, what kind of weirdo movies do you watch as a kid?

No wonder you are the way you are today. That's all I remembered since I was just a little girl and I was terrified. I too had reoccurring dreams of personified paintings. And my buddy actually thought it was so weird that he looked it up on Amazon and ordered it for me. What a sweet guy. Someone who thinks you're weird and supports you too. Anyway, I haven't seen it in like 10 years

and I'm watching it tonight with my quote-unquote buddy. Thank you. Oh, and for the record, I'm pretty normal. Thank you. Five stars. Do we think at all that the writer of that review is the person that Jake the Snake got the DVD, the VST, the VST, the the the VST I just think this movie

brings people together to have like sex. I think this is like this is a movie. I like the narrative around this movie is basically nobody believed me, but I'm right. Like everybody was scarred by this movie and couldn't but and couldn't convince people it was a real thing. Like this is, this is a weird, this is like a, this is like a folk tale or something. It's like, it's upsetting kids. And then people are like, that's not real. I do feel like, and I'm being very sincere when I say that I do feel like this movie has a very Hans Christian Anderson kind of story like, like those kind of scary fables that

you hear as a kid like this has all the elements of it like but it's not been sanitized at all but but 1985 it should have been like they should have been like Oh, it's not that bad. It's like you know, but this is this is a console and Gretel but scared I mean it's it's a scary it definitely is it's definitely scary and it's this thing that's, I thought that I found scariest about the movie is that Michael, the little boy who has the fright, loses his hair, does the peanut butter solution, grows his hair, gets kidnapped, is by senior, all that stuff, that little boy, all of the, in traditional,

like storytelling, he, like goonies or any of those other, he would he would have agency of some sort. He would be trying to do something and he throughout the movie, things just happen to him. He very, he almost, the only thing he really does is the go into the haunted house. Really. That's the only thing he does actively. Everything else is reactive. He, the ghosts give him the information. He puts it on his head.

He does the, you know, the everything happens to him, which is weird. So that's why the third act, Connie has to be mobilized as the lead of the movie because he's gonna figure it out in ensuesy as well. They're gonna do something. They're the only active characters, which is such a bizarre thing to have in a kid's movie, a child who doesn't have a driving emotional engine.

I just wanted you to say, again, what you just really described there is what all bald people go through. Oh boy. This isolating paralysis, you know, and I think that this movie does a beautiful job and I think you did a great job, something it up. What we all have to go through, you know, we only have our friends to help us get through it and they don't want to, they don't want to help us get through it, you know. Listen, I, I felt very connected to the story of a young boy who suddenly has way more hair than he ever thought would be possible for a child

his age. Uh, that really hit home for me. I, I understand why the bald part hit home for you, but for me, the, the overgrowth of hair was just as, for me, was very unsettling. Wow. Wow. Wow. Really connected, really connected with me.

I mean, I was like, as someone who's never struggled with having too much or too little, like I couldn't really place myself in this movie. I couldn't see myself reflected back and that was hard. It was like, You didn't feel like you were a Suze? I didn't feel like I was, I mean, I guess I most closely identified to Suze, but specifically I loved her outfits.

I mean, I loved Suze's wardrobe. Yeah. It was incredible. I liked her. She was my favorite part. Yeah, me too. Well, I think we said it all. I mean, we really got into the bottom of this and more ways than ever thought Was possible and I'm so glad we finally got to do this movie, which is free on Amazon Prime. You can watch the deleted scenes on YouTube Jason June anything you want to promote, tell anybody about anything at all? Nope.

Nope, nope, I mean, stay safe, stay home, you know, be well everybody. Yeah, same here. I just will direct you guys to Jason and I got to do a fun Marvel comic book thing. It's the World's Grace Book Club with Paul Sheer. Jason's on it, you're stepping Paul Sheer, Jason Zonatius Sipin, Paul Sheer, Jason Manzookis, and Marvel. You can watch us talk about comics and also support

which was so fun. By the way, Paul, and that's that that video that we did is one in a series that Paul did for Marvel, all of which are terrific. You talk to Damon Lindelof, you talk to a whole bunch of people that were just like really great interviews. If you like comics and stuff like that, I really enjoyed the series. You'll get a little taste of some fun books to check out. And I just want to give a big... Oh, and also, you know what? Sorry, if you don't mind.

I will mention, there's a new animated show coming out on HBO Max called Close Enough from the people that created the regular show. And I'm one of the voices on that. And it's coming out in July. Oh, I love that. And I want to say, remembered, a big thank you to our super producer Cody, who's keeping it all together at home and making everything stay on track. Our amazing engineer Devin who makes these things sound way better than they need to.

Avril Halley and Nick Kiley who do our research and picking of the films. Also Zach McElise and Kyle Waldron who does some of our great art that you can find on our Instagram and Facebook pages. Molly Reynolds who is just, you know, I would say a designated hitter. She comes in, whatever the job is, she knocks it out of the park. Thank you guys so much for listening. Bye for now.