How Did This Get Made? - Morbius LIVE!

Episode Date: January 6, 2023

It’s morbin’ time! Paul, Jason, and June are LIVE from the Chicago Theatre to break down the 2022 Jared Leto superhero flick Morbius. With the help of a nerd in the audience, the crew discuss if M...orbius can fly due to his hollow bones or because it’s simply a windy day, if Matt Smith’s character name is Milo or Lucien, and wonder if Morbius could use a little help from Beetlejuice. Plus, they ask the all-important question, "Would you donate blood for someone to drink?"Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When Dr. Morbius meets Dr. Who, it's Morbentime! We saw Morbius, so you know what that means! We saw Morbius, so you know what that means! Hello people of Earth, and hello people of Chicago! We are alive at the Chicago Theater, and we are so excited to talk about a movie that changed a generation. Some say it might be the best Marvel-affiliated film ever. Technically not a Marvel film, because I've never seen that weird title above Marvel before in association. It's like we live next door to Marvel.
Starting point is 00:01:47 But if you need to know the plot of Morbius, it's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Vampire. No, it's a weird story about a man who doesn't have the right DNA, but vampire bats do. I think we learned a lot of bad things about vampire bats that aren't true. And if you're looking for something scary, don't worry, you won't find it here. Surprisingly, in the hour and 48 minutes of this film, not much happens, but we are going to break it down tonight. With my co-hosts, please welcome Mr. Jason Manzuka! What's up, Drunks? How we doing in Chicago?
Starting point is 00:02:38 That's what I'm talking about! Give it up, balcony! Here we are, I need to watch Morbius? Question mark? We definitely watched Morbius. That is a true statement. Yesterday you said something that I will say I put into effect today, which is you admitted that you watched some things at a faster speed. And I was like, yikes, that sounds like a great idea. So I started doing it on Morbius earlier today. Okay, there's so much slow-mo in this movie that I was like, what's going on? Because sometimes it would be like normal, and then sometimes it would be like...
Starting point is 00:03:28 And then I tried to mess with it, and inadvertently I watched like 15 minutes of the movie at.75. I made it longer! I watched this movie for longer than you did! I don't understand why you can go below the normal speed, because... You really want to drink it in? Occasionally I will make that mistake in an audiobook, and I'm like, come on, get to the point, and then I realize it's my mistake. But no, I watch this in real speed. For how did this get made, I don't fuck around. I watch it in the right aspect ratio. I rent out a theater, I sit there by myself, I do all the research.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I watch these all in the real speed, but you know what? I was upset because I love watching Marvel movies. I love those films, and I know I only have a few chances to get June on board with those. And this is where I wasted that. Okay, let's hear it from her. Please welcome my co-host, June Day at Review! Welcome, June. Hi, Paul. How are you? I'm well. Thank you. How are you? Good. I love this movie.
Starting point is 00:04:48 What? What on earth is happening? I enjoyed it. That's it. Black it out. Show's over. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was weird, the final episode of the How Did This Get Made podcast was only one and a half minutes long. Chicago Saw, historic podcast I've been making. June had to take so hot, we had to wrap the podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:10 But you know what? I'm happy to hear you say that, and I will say I don't know if it's the fact that we've been on tour and we've watched so many bad movies. Yeah, we're not well. Yeah. Oh, I mean, if we're going to compare this to Oogie Loves, this one went down easy. So easy. I do agree with that. So Morbius is a, you know, is a grand film, you know, it spans a quarter of a century. You know, we're following these characters from 25 years ago all the way to the present.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I mean, I just love, Jason is a comic book fan, you know, I think that you probably feel like what? I've been waiting, waiting for Morbius the Living Vampire to enter our cinematic universe. And I haven't been. This is a character I don't care about. Morbius the Living Vampire is like a also ran Spider-Man kind of good guy, bad guy kind of in that category that I'm not, I'm not even that familiar with. I mean, he's part daredevil, right? Yes, all the echo location stuff, all that I can hear everything. He's part Spider-Man, which we kind of address because he got bit or he has put the blood in whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And then I would say this movie makes him mostly Batman. Like the fact that he doesn't call himself Batman upset me. Like you are using bats to attack. Don't just use your doctor name. Like it's his real name. Well, but I would never, I would never go to a doctor whose last name was Morbius. Yeah. Like that.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Never. But see, approaching the movie with no knowledge, because I think I asked you, Paul, at one point, is this Batman? Yeah. And you said... Am I watching, am I watching Batman? Yeah. Is this sort of another version, like another kind of take on Batman's origin story? And I don't know much about any of these gentlemen Batman Spider-Man, but Batman's origin story, like I do know.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah. So I thought... Which is? Well, he sees his parents get slaughtered in an alley. Okay, great. Wow. I do know that. I know that.
Starting point is 00:07:18 But I was like, but if you... And I would recommend another viewing, erasing all of the comics you've read and just approaching it anew. But don't do it like this. Erasing... Erasing all the comics you've read, boy. And just approaching it like it's a brand new thing. Yeah. And you might enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Paul, you did enjoy this movie by the way. I said I enjoyed it. Okay. I was surprised. So is it a good movie? No. But it is competently made in parts, but also nothing happens. Like it's a weird thing.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I mean, it's a perfect rainy day movie to watch on like a channel that plays like mostly like two and a half men reruns. Like, like it's like, well, that's the only channel I guess. What channel is that? And are you watching it? I mean, isn't that what TBS is now? TBS is pretty much that. Like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Two and a half men and Morbius? Morbius? Morbius posits a world in which you want to know what the coolest thing is in 2022? Bullet time. We did this already. We did. I could see the bullet coming and dodge it. That's the matrix.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Come on. To me, the best thing about Morbius simply was his doctor's outfit, which looked like a very high class. Very high class chef outfit. Like I've never seen a doctor that has like a button around the neck. He looked like a priest doctor chef. I was so obsessed with his lab because they're doing clinical trials there for at least one patient, Anna. Yeah. She's in there.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Anna is in there. And I guess maybe still currently in a coma. My assumption. My assumption is we'll be in a coma forever. Wait, it's really tough because I spent the entire movie and the two post credit scenes thinking when will we take this vial to Anna? Or wake her up. Well, this is interesting because I forgot a big part of this movie. There is a moment where the king of Sweden gives him an award, right?
Starting point is 00:09:31 The Nobel Prize. The Nobel Prize. So he gets the Nobel Prize. Wait, does he get the Nobel Prize? Yes. He created artificial blood. Of course he did. You know what?
Starting point is 00:09:42 I think it was happening so slow on my screen that I wasn't processing it. Right. You couldn't help but to miss it at that point. It is said so quickly because it's just a quick cut to it. It's like, Nobel Prize. Anyway, we're back in the lab. We're like, wait, wait. Just traversed 25 years.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Then we go forward to synthetic blood and then we're back in like, there's so much going on, but synthetic blood seems like, isn't that healing him? Isn't that working? Wow. But it's for shorter and shorter periods. Only after he got bit by the vampire bat. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. I think he's looking for a cure, like a full-blown cure.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And I don't think synthetic blood is it. So that's like insulin for him. He's like, it's not curing it. I have to do something more drastic. The thing that's tricky is I believe, and I'm sure someone's going to shout it out, but I believe that that artificial blood is impacting the blood. It is impacting the world in a huge way, right? That Tyrese says later on that it saved him in the battlefield. Guys, Tyrese is in this fucking mood.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And do a great work. And thank God. When Tyrese showed up, I wrote, thank God, Tyrese is here. And then when Tyrese ceases to be funny, I'm like, oh no, why Tyrese? I know. Why did they take the funny guy? All I wanted was for him to be his character from Fast and Furious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:07 He's like, are you telling me you got vampire blood in your body? Like, no, he's just dead serious. But in the trailer or one of the trailers, there's multiple trailers with extra scenes. Tyrese does take off a jacket and reveal a robotic arm. Okay. Oh. Okay. The balcony needs to chill out.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I know that's hard because you're in the balcony and you're already most of you pissing your pants. But yes, like Tyrese's character, there are multiple reshoots here. Yeah. Tyrese's character did have a robotic arm. So I feel like they also were trying to show something there, which makes sense because when Tyrese is chasing Dr. Morbius, and I'll call him by his doctor name, Dr. Morbius, he manages to get to the top of the building as quick as Morbius. And Morbius flew up there, bouncing off walls, and Tyrese got up there real quick with the wind.
Starting point is 00:12:11 What happened with the wind? Oh my gosh. What is that wind? In the subway tunnel as well. I get the subway tunnel because I feel like that's the subway tunnel pushing the wind forward. I agree with you there. I think that also happens. But it happens on a rooftop.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And I thought it was just a windy day. And once you're up there, I think what was happening was, you know, he's constantly trying to, Morbius, trying to understand what his body can do. Like what his power set is. Yes, what his power set is because he's adjusting to, this is where I like the movie. He's adjusting to not only being, you know, out of the prison of his illness, but and feeling good, but actually feeling like more than good, which is superhero level. Now, where I think there was a missed opportunity.
Starting point is 00:13:09 He's feeling Morbius good. What did you say? He's feeling Morbius good. I think he, I thought where we were going is that he was going to... So you're saying Morbius good? Morbius good. I've been good. Got it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Got it. I wish we had seen him think he was a superhero or had superpowers before he actually did. Because he spent his life afflicted by a very serious illness. Oh, I see. So you would have, wait, thought he had superpowers or just was healthy? Superpowers. Well, he doesn't have a morometer of what it feels like to be healthy ever. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I would have loved it if we had a scene where he's like, I did it. I'm healthy. I live in the real world before he like turns into like a blood-sucking vampire and murders a bunch of people. Either way, I just think that was such a... Because the heart of the story I actually think is really compelling. They just didn't really do anything with it. You know, but I think what was happening with the wind. Anyway, to go back to the wind on the rooftop.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I think what was happening was that it was simply just a windy day. And we were watching a man with superpowers like brace himself to not get thrown off by the wind. I think what it is, and I think this is what it is, but I don't think it's successful or I think it's too confusing. I think what it is, is he now, one of the elements of his power set now is that he can fly. And he yet doesn't know it, but his body is processing air currents everywhere. Well, can I tell you why? So that he can fly because bats are blind and they fly off of the air is what I'm assuming. I thought that when he has this blood, he gets hollow bones.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Sorry, Pope, we didn't get that. Can you repeat it? I'm so sorry. What now? I believe, and scientists in the audience, I know there's a lot, back me up. I believe the vampire, you think scientists are in the balcony? On a Sunday night? If you're a scientist and you're in the balcony, you're not a scientist. I believe that vampire bats or bats in general have hollow bones. That's ten birds. Birds have hollow bones.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Birds, same difference. Bird bones. Well, Birdman is in this. Yes. Yeah. Wait, so you thought that the wind was because his bones were now hollow? Yeah, because he's lighter. Oh, but I, well, then we're kind of saying the same thing because I don't think it's that he's,
Starting point is 00:15:54 wouldn't it have been amazing if he took, if he gets bitten by the vampire? And of all the transformations you see, you watch the marrow get sucked out of all of his bones. That's what's trailing him whenever he jumps up. That's bone marrow. That's bone marrow. No, I think it's his, I think he is. Oh, look, because bat bones are hollow, allowing them to be light enough to fly, they're unable to produce the B cells needed for immune function in their bone marrow like other mammals.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Oh, so they're, they're, they're, they're unable to combat viruses. Yes. Okay, so now I have a new set of problems. Without that marrow, baby, they are prone to viruses. This guy is riddled with virus. No, my thing is, I think the first time on the rooftop it happens, the wind is blowing. It's just the wind, but they're visualizing it because he's like, what the fuck is this wind? The same way they're trying to visualize, I can hear across town.
Starting point is 00:16:57 They're trying to visualize all of these bat specifics, these bat senses. I also think that his hearing is bullshit because he seems to selectively cancel out the entire city. Yeah. Unless it's like, oh, I can hear down the hall in this one minute. Like, the nurse is killed. What happened to the nurse? Oh yeah. She was killed.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Oh shit, what happened? Like, you would think he couldn't sleep because the noise would be like, And he never, nothing, the thing that happens that we, what's wonderful about Daredevil's powers when he gets them as a child is that when he loses his sight and all of his other senses, because he gets toxic waste dumped on him, and all of his other senses heighten, he's almost driven insane by the amount of input he's now getting. He can hear, it's a cacophony of sounds that he cannot control. We never see Morbius struggle with his, but he is like,
Starting point is 00:17:49 Wait, I can fly, I can do anything, I'm awesome, I'm immediately incredible at this. Done, I'm letto, get to work. You need me to be jacked letto? Okay, I need to be skinny in one scene, and then I'm full blown jacked letto. He carried me around set, but I'm jacked. I loved it. He literally plays one game of handball, just one, and he's got it, figured it out, got my powers down. Like, he nails it right after that.
Starting point is 00:18:15 He's not even playing a game, he's just tossing a ball. Yeah. And he's like, can I do this? Yup, I guess I'm a fucking cool ass vampire. But not the kind that's not cool with the sun. Well, the big issue that I had in the beginning was his love interest, Martine. You know, she comes in and it feels like she's catching him in the act. She's like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:18:41 And then proceeds to knock on a giant tube in the middle of his office full of bats. He's not hiding the bat work. She presents like, I know you're working on something secretive. Ting, ting, ting. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what there should have been? There should have been an administrator, somebody who was like, I don't like these bats in here. I don't like what you're up to.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I don't like your long hair. I don't like your too trimmed, too dark beard. For someone your age, there's definitely gray in there. You are not a doctor, sir. You are Jared Leto. I will say this. Jared Leto did say he did not have to do method acting for this role because, because, and this is a true quote, Dr. Morbius and him share a similar personality.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Okay, that's really interesting because one of the reasons why I really love this movie obviously is because of Jared Leto, but also I found him to be so watchable and easy on screen. I loved him in this. I loved him. I just loved him. I mean, I thought Jared Leto was fine, but to me, Matt Smith is absolutely devouring this movie. This is the performance. Matt Smith is where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Okay, hold on one second. Give me an entire movie about Matt Smith. That's a medical term. Hold on. All you Dr. Who nerds, take that out of the equation. Yeah, Dr. Who. Yay. He just started watching it.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Here's the Dylan Christopher Eccleston. Matt Smith has no reason. He has nothing. Why does he all of a sudden be like, yeah, let's fucking kill everybody? Like he had the synthetic blood is working for him. And he's like, fuck it. Now I want to eat people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like he has no, he's like, yeah, we can cover up dead bodies. That's easy. Because I think what the movie is going for or one of one, one thing that's coming through is how we treat disabled people and people who are, I'm serious. And so I did, I did feel like, oh, I do understand that the world has not been set up or adjustments have not been made for someone like Matt Smith to live with his illness successfully in the world. We see him get bullied and beat up as a child and hiring bodyguards because he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:22 yes, one of his bodyguards also refers to Dr. Morby is as a cripple when he's letting him into Matt Smith's apartment. So I do think what's happening to Matt Smith is that he can no longer take being disabled in America. Got it. He just wants to eat them and drink their, or in the world, or in the world, because I'm pretty sure he's first treated in Greece. And I was like, hey, I wrote, hang on.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Is anybody Greek and is, is, is somebody in this movie supposed to be Greek? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Is Jared Harris supposed to be Greek? Is this, is the clinic Greek? Is Morby is Greek? Is that, is anybody supposed to be Greece Greek? Why is this clinic?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Is it Morby is a Greek name? Yes, of course. We meet on a morbid saying. Morby is, we teach on a morbid galaxy. I think I was during a time where it was like Mediterranean air can cure anything. I feel like Jared Letter was like, I want to go to Greece for this, but just for one scene here's my question though. And I'm asking very honestly because the movie leaves a lot to the viewer to connect
Starting point is 00:22:37 But Matt Smith is doing well with the synthetic blood. Well, listen, even though they're surviving on the synthetic blood, there's nothing like the red stuff. Also? You know, we know that. There's nothing like that red stuff. He wants to eat dinner at a red sauce place, if you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Here's the thing. And we understand why. And I think that for Jared Leto, for Morbius, he is doggedly pursuing a cure. He is chasing. He is a scientist. He is a doctor. He is chasing a cure. Matt Smith's want is to dance. He cannot dance.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You know what he's not doing with synthetic blood? Dancing. The guy needs to move. I mean, they really do recreate that scene from Spider-Man 3, with Tobi McGuire there. Yes. That's true. I wish we knew more about Anna's parents.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And just what kind of waivers they had to sign to get her treatment and to get her a spot in this clinical trial at New Horizons. Do you think Anna's parents were ever, like, by her bedside, like, oh, Anna, OK, OK. And then we're like, OK, we're leaving now. Walk past giant plexiglass full of bats. Do you think they're ever, like, what is this treatment?
Starting point is 00:24:02 Should we take her to a regular hospital? By the way, even if they had never seen the bats, the lighting in that facility. OK. Nah. OK, not only the lighting in the facility. The lighting in the facility is on the same timer system as episode one of Guillermo del Toro's
Starting point is 00:24:25 Cabinet of Curiosities. The Tim Blake Nelson episode, where that lighting, that timer-based lighting, is in a storage facility. This is a high-tech hospital. The nurse is killed and is dead on the floor all night into the next day. Well, to me, I thought it was one of those lights. Like, you know, if you stay still in the bathroom too long,
Starting point is 00:24:47 the light will go off, and you'll be like, wave your hand. Like, but. Oh, those are the worst. I hate it. When you get to a certain age and you realize, oh, no, I now shit longer than the movement timer. This is not good. I'm old.
Starting point is 00:25:05 But. How is there still some left? I thought, I thought that it was on movement. Just when I thought I was out, it pulls me back in. OK. But I thought it was on movement lights, but it wasn't because she runs to the end of the hall. And then there's a lone light switch that turns on all the lights.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I was like, wait, you. It's so long. Movement lights. I actually, I thought that I, I enjoyed that sequence. I thought it was very scary. It's a great device. And it is used so much better in the gear Model Toro thing. But I will say this once again, the patient, Anna,
Starting point is 00:25:45 literally is attached to the laboratory. Like, it does feel like, what other care is she getting there? It doesn't, like, it seems like people are going home. Well, again, that's why I want to know what the situation is, because if you're part of a clinical trial, I do think she needs to be admitted to a hospital. And I guess the, I mean, to me, a lab is a lab, and a hospital is a hospital.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And those are two different things. Yeah, I know. I know. He puts her into a, the last we see, he's like, put her into a coma. I have a, I have a question. Whatever wicks her up. Is some things, and the movie,
Starting point is 00:26:25 some of this might just be, the movie is, doesn't answer these questions, but, and some of it might be because I watched it on a bunch of various speeds. Is Jared, so Jared Harris is running the Greek clinic, where boy Morbius meets boy Matt Smith. Okay. Yes. He then calls him Milo for the rest of the movie.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Isn't his name Lucian? Yes. Yeah. Right? Yes. So his name is Lucian. It's just this thing where, where Morbius calls everybody Milo, and he's like, you don't have an identity except for the one I give you,
Starting point is 00:27:03 your new Milo. But he also then says, I don't even remember the first Milo. So it's like, it's not even in like, Oh, I love that Milo news taking away. He's like, I don't even remember. But I assume that you two would know the answer. I think he's just saying,
Starting point is 00:27:20 I think he's just saying you're just another Milo that'll die soon. Who cares? This movie is about me, Morbius, the living vampire. And oh wait, now because I can like, now because I fixed your dialysis machine or whatever the machine was
Starting point is 00:27:37 with a ballpoint pen. Who is he? Forge? That's for the comic book nerd. But by the way, Forge can make anything. He's a machine. If he can build anything out of anything,
Starting point is 00:27:49 is Morbius the same? What is his mutant power? When Morbius fixes that with a pen spring, Jared Harris is like, you're smart. I'm going to send you to science school. He said, well, here's my question. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:03 He says there is a school in New York for gifted youngsters, which sounds a lot like Xavier Academy. Xavier Academy to me. And I was like, are these motherfuckers trying to introduce the X-Men in Morbius? Well, I will straight up kill myself if this is how this happens.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Again, I didn't take any of this baggage into my viewing. And I just enjoyed it. But I do feel like at one point, look, he calls everybody Milo, but then when he saves Lucian's life, you would think he goes,
Starting point is 00:28:42 I'm not going to call you Milo anymore. I'm going to call you Lucian. And then he doesn't. And then so much so that later in the movie, he's like, I got to save Milo. It's like, you don't even know his name. Everybody calls him Milo. I know.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Even... Well, he calls himself Milo. And other people call him... Bix from Andor calls him Milo. Everybody calls him... I swear to God, I think Matt Smith's character legally changes his name to Milo
Starting point is 00:29:10 just because Jared Leto is like, that's who you are. That's it. I run the cult. You're Milo. By the way, speaking of weird things in this movie, and we'll get to a lot of them,
Starting point is 00:29:22 there was nothing more unsexy than being off the coast of Long Island. Now, I am a Long Island native. As am I. But when they... Not me, baby! When they say international waters, I'm thinking something very exotic.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Was not expecting Long Island. 13 miles off the coast of Montauk. I'm like, you could for sure see a strip mall from there. And it was like... Yeah. International waters. I was like, is Don de Milo here?
Starting point is 00:29:54 What's going on? Morbius loves his outlet mall shopping. He's like, well, I'll hit the outlets and then we'll get on an international... And then we're gonna go to Montauk and then we're gonna hang out with Billy Joel. Get him off the roll. You know who I felt really badly for?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Well, Anna, of course. But also... We gotta put her in a coma. I felt really bad for that crew on that ship. On that cargo ship. The mercenaries? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Multiple times people tell you, don't worry about them. I know! They're like, I don't care about them. Why? Are we sure they all deserved to die? Well, I mean, the movie is trying to tell us they are,
Starting point is 00:30:30 but here's my question is, why did he even need mercenaries? Just charter a boat and build a lab in it. Why do you need gun-toting mercenaries? I got another question for you. I think it's just so they can be visually bad guys, so you're okay with him killing them.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Well, here's my other question for you. Why do they need to be in international waters? Why do they need to be on the water? Because he tells Milo, it's full-blown illegal what I'm gonna do, so I can only do it in international waters. Like, the FDA found she's not approving this type of experiment.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Is this the bat that brought COVID to the States, Morbius? Yes, he's like, the first scene takes place at a wet market. Now, I do love when Morbius is recording his own journal. He goes, I have echolocation. That's bat radar for those uninitiated. You fucking dope. It's your own!
Starting point is 00:31:29 Get your own journal! That made me think, is somebody, because to your point, Jason, there doesn't seem to be any admin infrastructure at New Horizons. So I was like... Where's Cody from House being like, you can't do this, you're out of control.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Right, but I was like, I know Martin's not transcribing those notes from the tape, so is Jared Leto transcribing his own notes? I feel like he's doing voice-to-text. Who? Is Anna? Is this treatment covered by her PPO? I thought you were going to say, is it like a work study?
Starting point is 00:32:09 No, I'm like... What is weird, Jared? What I think is true is, I believed that Jared Leto was operating out of a hospital, and I think he is not. I think he's operating out of... Oh, Jason, that is not a hospital. That's a lab in a warehouse that's been converted.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I have issues with the labs, because at one point, a guy is forging $100 bills, and he's like, that's my new science lab. How? He walks into a lab. He just overhears with his echolocation, two guys trying to pass off counterfeit 100s, and they're like, all right, we've got to get back to the lab.
Starting point is 00:32:48 He follows them to their lab where they're manufacturing money, and he tweaks two, three things, and he's like, yep, now I can do my blood experiments on this. It's a printing press. He has a print... He has a machine that's like a Kinko's, and he takes out the ink cartridge, and he's like, now it's a blood machine.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Now I have my blood. It is absolutely insane that he's... And it's all... It's not even a time jump. I could understand. He gets rid of the guys who are counterfeiting. He says, okay, this is raw materials I can use. Time jump.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Now he's got it set up. No, immediately, he's like, screw, screw, screw, screw, screw, screw. Perfect. And the thing's like spinning around. They were making money. It's like it might as well have been... This movie is nonsense. I have such an issue with the lack of refrigeration
Starting point is 00:33:43 for all this blood, because unless he has like a Yeti backpack, the backpack that he throws the blood in does not look... We've seen the kind of lab he needs to make it work. Yeah, this is not that. Yeah. It seems like a... I mean, where is the blood...
Starting point is 00:34:00 I mean, also, the amount of underground layers. They're going deep. I mean, this is a weird question. I did love that the criminals referred to their counterfeit space as a lab. I was like, wow, they bring a certain level of professionalism to their work. As they're trying to pass off fake 100s at the diner. Also, Morbius all over the news, all over the Daily Bugle,
Starting point is 00:34:26 J. Jonah Jameson is blowing him up. By the way, shot scenes for this movie, J. Jonah Jameson. Oh, really? Yes, and then they cut them. That's heartbreaking. That's heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Maybe because they didn't want to reveal... Well, because there are issues with the MC. There's a lot of mistakes. Sure. Yeah. But he's on the cover of the paper. But he has... He's also not hiding out at all.
Starting point is 00:34:48 He's hoodless, looking exactly like his incredibly identifiable self, with Bix from Andor in a diner being like, I'm a vampire now. But not that kind of vampire. My issue was, how did he know that he couldn't have animal blood? He's like, I have a thirst for human blood. You didn't even try animal blood. But he's also...
Starting point is 00:35:10 In his old place, in his old lab, there appears to be, there's the blue synthetic blood, then there's row after row of what looks like red human blood. Couldn't he have drank that for weeks? Well, no. I think only for hours. Well, it's going down six hours, four hours and 22 minutes. But isn't that only for the synthetic?
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. Like, well, he doesn't take any of the red blood. He's grabbing the blue blood like crazy. He doesn't seem to really suck it out. Like, he seems to just like take a slug of the blood. Like, I want to see him like... A blood slug? Like, I really want...
Starting point is 00:35:47 Like, when he's in the jail cell... Ooh, I'd like to take a blood slug from you. Because he's like... I just feel like he's just like, hey, you're leaving a lot of blood in there. If I'm needing human blood, I'm going to suck that blood bag dry. I'm just gonna.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Because it's like, when will I get the next batch? Well, the other thing is, because he doesn't seem to have... Like, obviously there are vampiric urges that he has. Yes. Like, when she cuts her hand... When she cuts her... When the cat... Is it the cat scratches her or whatever? Yeah. She gets a cut and he can like...
Starting point is 00:36:17 It activates him, right? But he also doesn't attack. He only attacks people... He's only out of control, rather, in... on the boat. So why isn't he just getting people to donate blood to him to drink? That seems like... He must have... He's a Nobel Prize-winning doctor.
Starting point is 00:36:38 He has access to blood. And by the way, why are people so mad that he's... Like, at one point when he's on the cover, like, I knew that guy was a fucking freak. Like, really? The Nobel Prize scientist who invented synthetic blood? You have an issue with newspaper vendor? I mean, I do think it's a hard sell,
Starting point is 00:36:55 because I think it's wonderful to donate blood. I try to donate blood, but it's like... I don't know that I want to donate blood for someone to drink. Well, I would... Here's what I would happily drink blood. I would rather... Sorry. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Freudian slip. I'm a vampire! Guys, I've been cast in Morbius II Still Morban. Um, no. I would happily give my blood for someone to drink so that they wouldn't pray on human beings. Can I have it? Yes!
Starting point is 00:37:31 I would... June, I... Pint after pint for you. Thank you. Absolutely. My favorite part in the... So, the part where he does wild out the first time he's transformed into a vampire,
Starting point is 00:37:42 and he's on the ceiling in the boat in his cage, and then they open it, and he comes down, and he kills all the mercenaries, right? Then he wakes up out of it like... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! And he's like, what happened here? Amnesia. So, he goes and he checks all the security footage, right?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Of every... He's watching the security cam footage of everything we just saw and vomits. Even Morbius doesn't like the movie Morbius. Even Morbius is watching the scenes we watched, and is like... This is not good! I wanted to just get into Tyrese's character
Starting point is 00:38:24 because these two cops... And I love... And I love Al Madrigal. Very funny in it, and he's great. But I know it's a movie convention, but I need to call out that they never have talked before they get to the crime scene. They are stone cold silent,
Starting point is 00:38:40 and then they get there, and it's like information dub. It seems like Tyrese's like, don't tell me anything until I'm standing exactly in the center of it. They also don't have a... I mean, I'm assuming they are long-term partners. They have no dynamic between them. And they seem to also work San Francisco
Starting point is 00:39:00 for Venom, connecting the weirdo Sony Marvel Universe. Do you think they worked San Francisco, or they just think this might be connected to the thing that happened in San Francisco, AKA Venom? Oh, I thought they were setting Tyrese up to be a special investigator, which was confusing.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I like that. Because when he has that earpiece, is he just getting the APB wire? I think that's just for the rest of the police. But I mean, is he getting every call? I wouldn't ask a nerd here. Is there a nerd who can... a singular person who can tell us,
Starting point is 00:39:35 is Tyrese playing a character from comics that we should know? Yes. Who? He's playing a vampire hunter that ends up teaming up with Nikhil Dracula. Okay, so he is playing a vampire hunter, not Blade, who helps Morbius kill Dracula.
Starting point is 00:39:52 By the way, should give it up for this... this heroic Chicago native. Guys, and well done, everybody, that you allowed him to speak without everybody being like, I know, I know! Then I want to ask, why does Morbius refer to himself as Venom?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Is he not... That's a joke. I think that's a misdirect. That's a joke? It's a joke because, by the way... I don't understand comedy. All right, when you watch the trailer... Okay, so when you watch the trailer,
Starting point is 00:40:24 one of the moments in the trailer is like, who are you? And he's like, I'm Venom. And then he goes... That's in the trailer? Yes, and he goes, just joking, I'm Dr. Morbius. That's in the trailer.
Starting point is 00:40:37 They just left it here in the movie as I'm Venom. And I think... Does he maybe say I'm joking too? I didn't... No! I didn't hear that. Well, I thought he was saying that as a way to be like... I don't...
Starting point is 00:40:50 It was like throw people off the center, you know, like, to be like... I'm not even going to identify myself, so I'm just going to say I'm this other character that has been causing trouble in the same world. Okay, so this is the line as it was written. He goes, I'm Venom. And he goes, just kidding,
Starting point is 00:41:09 it's Dr. Morbius at your service. And actually, I misquoted it. He says... At your service? I misquoted it. He says, I'm just kidding, it's Dr. Michael Morbius at your service. I'm sorry, I have it here,
Starting point is 00:41:27 and it's actually at your service. And it's like... It's like a joke. He's like making a joke. Dr. Michael Morbius at your service. I will say I understand that this movie falls very weirdly in the MCU. In the MCU, I don't know where this falls
Starting point is 00:41:51 because there are elements of, you know, Spider-Man, we're referencing X-Men, there's a lot of stuff going on, but I will say the one thing that doesn't seem incredibly established in this universe as is are superheroes, right? They doesn't seem like there's a lot of superheroes, but the lack of reaction to vampires
Starting point is 00:42:15 seems suspect. Like, take a look at this, this is a clip two. This is a news anchor just talking about a vampire attack. Breaking news on the Lower East Side where three people have been killed. Authorities have confirmed the discovery of three new bodies outside a bar popular with Wall Street traders,
Starting point is 00:42:36 and like the victims before them, they were completely drained of their blood, earning the killer the moniker Vampire Murderer. The prime suspect, renowned scientist, Dr. Michael Morvious, remains at large. So they're not saying it isn't, they're saying the moniker Vamp, the Vampire Killer. So they're saying because the bodies are drained of blood,
Starting point is 00:42:58 that the serial killer must be draining their blood, not that there's an actual vampire on the list. Well then they go, it's a copycat Vampire Murderer, but still draining of blood. I'm gonna put some more gravitas on that news report. I would think so. Also because the nurse who's, I think already been killed at this point,
Starting point is 00:43:18 only has two Fang marks. Yeah. There are no other wounds, so that's concerning. Oh, yeah. You know, that's gonna raise some eyebrows. The movie wants to have it both ways. The movie wants for people to be like, yeah, we live in a world where crazy shit happens,
Starting point is 00:43:34 i.e. there's a Spider-Man, there's a Thanos, there's, we live in like the, we are in the MCU technically, sort of? Are we nerd? Yes. Because I can, I can answer this nerd a little bit and you can back me up. The illusion at the end,
Starting point is 00:43:54 when Michael Keaton appears, is that he was also displaced from his universe when Doctor Strange pulled all the Spider-Man together. So that wasn't Batman? No. But... The, no reason why you should understand this. You would, you have every right to think that.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Yes. Because Michael Keaton has played both Batman, but also the Spider-Man villain, The Vulture. And Birdman. And Birdman. And he is not... And Beetlejuice. He is not...
Starting point is 00:44:34 In this movie, he's Beetlejuice. He's not reprising his role. What if... As Birdman in this movie. What if Morbius was like, fuck, I'm in trouble. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Hey, hey there.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Hey, what's going on? How can I help? Take a shit. Gotta drink that blood. So I... That's my audition for the remake of Beetlejuice. By the way, by the way, there's a great line for Beetlejuice,
Starting point is 00:45:02 that you're cervix. Yes! See? I am now writing a Beetlejuice reboot. Okay. But yes, he's... That character is the Spider-Man Vulture villain who appears at the end of the movie.
Starting point is 00:45:19 That is... And so he is tied loosely because the same little thing happens in the skyline of New York that happens when Doctor Strange is... And it's also why Venom, at the end of Venom, there is a similar multiversal displacement of people.
Starting point is 00:45:37 And again, I will say it, like I said at the beginning, this is not a Marvel movie. It says in association with Marvel. They really... It's like, Feige is like, oh, I really don't want you to take Spider-Man, but legally I can't say no.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Okay. Yay, yay, yay. It's like... To see a Sinister Six film under this... Oh, God. It would be so funny. Why would we destroy it?
Starting point is 00:46:00 Let me ask you a question, cat people. Do you shake a litter box and cat cum? Right, as though, like, the food's in there. Yeah. You're kitty, kitty. I don't... Like, it's like, why would the cat cum run into a toilet?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Well, wait a minute. Wait. When you were... When you were potty training your children, didn't you do the handle... to create a Pavlovian response that is like, oh, I guess it's time to shit,
Starting point is 00:46:36 so let's do this. Now, Paul and Jason, I have an announcement. Yes, okay. I have to go more bright now. It's 8.25. Yes. I have a 9.56 flight out of Chicago, so I am...
Starting point is 00:46:51 I didn't want to... We didn't want to reveal too early. I'm leaving the show a bit early because I know and I'm so upset about it. I can't believe it. It's horrifying, but let me tell you this. I have to get a child ready
Starting point is 00:47:05 in a pig Minecraft costume tomorrow. And as hard... Thank you. As hard as it is to leave here to go do that, I truly must go, and when we planned this, we didn't want to have to reschedule Chicago again, and we knew it was the night before Halloween.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I'm so sorry to leave. I love you all. I got a morb. And this is... I got a morb. I'm so sorry, everyone. I'm so sorry. June!
Starting point is 00:47:37 So, yes. So, the show is going to continue. We have a lot more to get through. I will say this. Before... Maybe I was a little hard on Matt Smith. I did like the bromance that they had. Like, when they were walking around,
Starting point is 00:47:49 I was like, oh, now you're quoting the notebook to me. Like, you know, I felt like they... I don't know. I liked them as friends. I liked them as friends. And if anything, I wanted more... I guess I wanted to understand more
Starting point is 00:48:01 what they had... Like, why they were kind of brothers, you know? It really didn't make sense to me that Matt Smith was so connected to him still, because kid Jared Leto leaves to go and do his whatever he becomes a, you know, a Nobel winning blah blah. And Matt Smith just seems to still be, like, around.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Can I ask another question about this? Is that house that they're living in, that estate? In Greece? In Greece. Yeah. Is that all full of kids with the exact same disease? Is that like a leper colony for that disease? I don't...
Starting point is 00:48:36 And if so, why is he so committed to this one kid when you would imagine there's floors and floors of them? Unclear. And not only that, but if we're meant to believe the kid Morbius' lines, multiple kids are just dying. Just expiring. So he's taken on.
Starting point is 00:48:57 There's an element of this movie which could have been like, I've watched so many people die that I'm not going to attach myself to you, Lucian. I'm going to call you Milo. You are a disposable person. But then he connects with him. He takes care of him. He becomes an older brother to him or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:13 But no, that's not what happens. Then the very next moment, Jared Harris is like, we're sending you out of here. You're too smart. And he's like, see you later. And by the way... That kid gets his ass kicked. But then later they're like, you're my brother.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Here's what I... This is why I call bullshit on it. Because 25 years ago, there was no internet. How was he keeping in touch with him? I just feel like... I have a lot of friends I would like to see from 6th grade. Origami notes. The only way you can get in touch.
Starting point is 00:49:40 But that's how they find him. We found one of these on the boat. Shit. Like, it was like... All right, I guess. Oh my gosh. The fact that he flies like a squirrel jumper, is that what it's called?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Like people that are... Like a flying squirrel suit? Yeah, that's what he looks like. It looks like he's in a flying squirrel suit. It doesn't look cool. And I don't understand why he would need to fly when he can just jump with the same amount of like... Why not just let him fly?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Why not just let him just... Or turn into a... Or maybe his powers don't... Maybe nerd? Does he not turn into a bat? No, thank you. Does he have control of bats? Oh, why doesn't Matt...
Starting point is 00:50:22 Okay, Matt Smith is attacked by bats, and he's like, bats now like me, because I'm the bat's brother. Not Batman, but I'm the bat's brother. But then the bats hate Matt Smith. Why isn't Matt Smith having the exact same experience with the bats? Morbius.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yeah. With the bats, with flying, with the rest. Yeah. Like, Morbius, the living vampire, seems to have... I think Matt Smith can fly. What? I think Matt Smith can fly.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Oh, he can? Yeah, he can. And then there's the white scene, which... Really. Uh... I mean... There are so many people. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:50:55 There's so many people in the movie, in the subway tunnel, in the subway station, on the city streets, that are watching this fight happen and everybody's like, Oh no, look out. It's... It's so casual.
Starting point is 00:51:07 They're like, walking through the subway tunnel and they're like flying up and around. It's like... And it's like, testament to New Yorkers who are just like, Gotta go to work. Who cares? Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go, gotta go.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Okay, what, two living vampires fighting around me? Gotta go to work. Like the thing that bums me out the most about this movie is that Matt Smith just wears a nice suit all the time. And yeah, he looks like he doesn't take on a real different personality. He just is like, well, wear a button down church. Can I ask the nerd a question?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Okay, and you know what? Nerd, what's your name? Michael. Michael. No, I'm not. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Michael the nerd. Are you Michael Morbius? You have to answer truthfully.
Starting point is 00:51:58 He's at your service. No, my question for you, Michael, is, is Matt Smith playing a character from the Marvel Universe? He's playing kind of an amalgamation of two different characters. A mash-up, right? Okay, so he's not like it's not a direct one-to-one rev. He's not a villain in the in the Marvel universe. Thank you That's all I wanted to know. Should I be so that Matt Smith said this?
Starting point is 00:52:22 It's more of a time Because I was somewhat confused with my character's history as he wasn't aware how Milo tied into the hunger's greatest legacy And origins from the comics since it wasn't clarified in the script Many reports came from the set that he was like his character was named a locious crown But then they changed it to Milo because They had to re-shoot the movie. They also thought that that character of Locious was a character in the film or in the comics. They decided to change it the last minute. Anyway, they didn't keep the character's name
Starting point is 00:53:01 And they changed it from Lucian to Milo because it was based on a character. Well, his name was I guess loxious L-O-X-I-A-S crown then they changed to Lucian crown and then Milo So three name changes for one script and and none of it helps clarify who the character is at all And it seems to me according to Matt Smith No one told him like hey in the comics. You are this character And what was I think one of the movies most egregious problems was Other than just kind of being mad at the people who at a world that kind of Bullied him or tormented him or didn't make his life easy. He's just gonna chomp everybody
Starting point is 00:53:48 In realistic sense as a villain as a villain in a superhero story Because that's even though it's a vampire story. This is ultimately a superhero story There is no clear villains motive. He doesn't want to do anything, but dance And and we're with girls and kill he wants to kill people because it seems to kill people when it's like Presented when he's when he's slighted or what or when some by the way He's an attractive man at a bar and he starts hitting on some other guys girlfriend He's like hey, that's my girlfriend. He's like I'll kill you and then does and then
Starting point is 00:54:26 Like that guy he might be a dick, but it was his girlfriend He always said was like her drinks are spoken for you also when he kills when he kills the nurse in Is it new horizons? Is it horizon horizons? Yeah, when he kills the nurse at horizons Like what a dick move to be like hey this this woman that you my brother Michael Morbius a Nobel Prize winner doctor doctor Michael Morbius at your cervix that this that you This person that you work with Intimately her life matters nothing to me I'm gonna chomp her and and drain her of all the blood. He is a dick
Starting point is 00:55:05 But I don't know why and my problem was I don't know what his he has no plan He has no he has no want no other than today He seems like he could live a fine life, but now that he's a vampire is like fuck it I'll be evil and we see the ultimate evil when he rips down the warning tape When he leaves the lab, ooh the villain Warning tape doesn't mean anything to me I loved I loved when he when he when he when he pretends to be the lawyer to visit Jared Leto in prison Jared Leto His already is in prison. Yeah, he's like in there and he's like ah it leaves him some blood and then leaves his cane behind and
Starting point is 00:55:47 He's like walking out of the prison like It's like a Kaiser soze thing, but for no one yeah like because it's for the camera It's that's what I mean for the camera the movie because he's like this. He's like lamp lamp that oh, so that right Hey No more live But why who was the the fake limp for and why would they let him into the cell and then why would they let him give him stuff? How do how do Tyrese and Al Madrigal not know that? That Matt Smith has visited him in jail. Why don't they know about him? Why they find out so late?
Starting point is 00:56:25 I mean, I don't even arrest him. It's like he gets in jail to get immediately out Like he fucking morbs in the interrogation. Why not yeah? Why not yes? They don't even they are so unimpressed by the fact that they're in the presence of a vampire True like they're like, huh? Okay, we're gonna come back to this I also and again this movie is not sure about powers or anything because there is also a moment when Dr. Michael Morbius is trying to go to see Jared Harris is like come I'm wounded man. Jared Harris. I think this is true, and I didn't look it up Jared Harris dies grizzly deaths in every role. He has
Starting point is 00:57:11 He's never survived to the end of a movie or TV show period Michael Come to the apartment. Why just tell me now what's going on, but I tried I tried to talk to Milo I know his name is Lucius But you decided to call him Milo, and we're all under your thrall When you were a bully you renamed him and we all went with it I even me an adult even me an adult even though I've not aged in 25 years And you are now Jared Leto, and we are essentially the same age There there is a there so when he goes to visit
Starting point is 00:57:54 Dying Jared Harris Morbius is the same And Morbius is like this like creep sidestepping. It's like dude. If you have echolocation, you know What's in the fucking room? You don't need to be like oh, I don't know something gonna jump out at me his powers are so fickle because like when Matt Smith has What what's big the bigs from and or his name? Martin Martin when he's got Martin, and he's like he'll come for you or what he's he's he's kind of trying to get to
Starting point is 00:58:28 Martin to lure Morbius to him and Morbius can hear everything Up until the point where he kills Martin. Yep, and I was like why didn't you go rescue her? He listened to the whole thing happen like maybe maybe His face is like I wonder what's gonna happen next But then he makes her into a vampire. Do we get a post-credits scene with her nope? Is that what happens? Yeah, she's a vampire bam. Is that Michael the nerd is is is she playing a vampire character? Okay, so she's okay the energy vampire from the X-Men great. Okay, great. I love that. Thank you I liked her performance and I thought and by the way give it up for give it up for Michael
Starting point is 00:59:18 We need Michael Doing heroic work all so long Everybody give him a pat on the back on the way out. Don't touch him though Don't touch anybody don't touch each other. I Will say this I liked her performance. I thought the love story was bullshit, but I That when he said they are just he's a vampire there to she's freaked out They don't know what's going on. They go up to the roof. He goes close your eyes and then kisses her that I didn't think that was cool I thought when he goes hey, I wasn't gonna have more bowed on you and she's like I thought it was romantic
Starting point is 00:59:56 Did you this man turned into a fucking preacher and we're you're like, ooh I thought they were gonna stone cold fridge her in a way that I was like wait Are they killing her now just to motivate him to get back at Matt Smith? And I didn't like that, but then they instead just turn her into a vampire. I guess well They needed something to activate Matt Smith and and Dr. Morbius to fall through The earth I yeah, they fight into the center of the earth are they falling down the middle of a building in Cuz I'm so confused. It was like I was watching the end of Transformers one I was and is it just so that they can is it just so that they can get to a level where there are bats
Starting point is 01:00:37 Also, yeah, so Morbius seems to have obviously has a relationship with bats, right? We get that vampire bats. Where does he go at the beginning? Where is he in the caverns at the beginning? Okay, hold on a second Michael. Where does he go in the beginning? Costa Rica Costa Rica. He's in Costa Rica studying vampire bats. Do we think there are vampire bats in New York City? No, these are just some basic These are these are like this is like Ant-Man getting the ants to play like the drums like any Yeah, any ants can do that Ant-Man has those powers. They could get everybody doing so you can control any bat any No, no, no the bats are his friends a guy's help guys. I'm being captured and then the bats are oh shit a brother
Starting point is 01:01:21 And they all I guess I guess I guess you're right I guess you're right, but then boy what I like it if he could turn into a bat or Or something. Well, he's kind of flying. I mean his bones are hollow. We know that why didn't he why? Why? The idea that you thought and he gets these shot up He gets hollow bones is incredible. So do you think Superman's bones are hollow? No, he's not a he's not a bat. So anybody so it's not just anybody who can fly No, that's hollow bone only that he's a bad. He has hollow bones got it got it or bird
Starting point is 01:02:05 But he's not a bird man and bird man in the movie is not an actual hot man DC Justice League member hot man and hot girl. Do they have hollow bones? No because they're planet They don't have hollow bones. Okay Well, okay, so this is the one thing that Martin said about our character, which I thought was odd She said she based it on AOC Which I love AOC great, but it's also we are like why how Where is that evidence? I don't see that at all Like I don't see
Starting point is 01:02:44 She's just a scientist like she's not I don't see not a she's not a politician. She's not Advocating I would like my I have follow-up questions. Yeah, I do too It seems like an odd choice to be like. Oh, yeah, you know AOC is how I viewed that Martin What part I don't know I want to get deeper into what she was talking about I want to get into it with the audience because I know that you all have questions, and I'm gonna go out here to the crowd I'm gonna talk to you. Okay. You're name and your question my name's Adrian and my question is if this movie's present day that puts them in the Children's Hospital 25 years ago in Greece. Why do they shoot it like it's post-war England?
Starting point is 01:03:27 Yeah, that car that pulled up was odd and old right it did it seemed like a Model T here We get it Adrian grease doesn't have modern cars. Oh Well, I'm sorry that grease Cheese right I said all their cars running Saganaki right you just like yes. Yes that you know, oh, it's a it's a it's a new fuel in Greece It's just it's cooked cheese Okay, yes, you have your notebook out. You have a question. Yes. Okay. Go for it. My name is Laura Why would you lose your license for combining human day human DNA with bat DNA?
Starting point is 01:04:05 And once you have combined human DNA and bat DNA, why would you give it to a mouse? Which is neither a human? Now that's a question here gets two pieces of candy for that the movie does a lot of bullshit like that where it's like We know that you the audience understand that medical tests are done on mice So we're just gonna do that even though it doesn't make any sense to the movie. We're doing or what's happening. So Fuck you the movie is caught. Here's what the reality the movie if you watch it again, please don't The movie is constantly saying to you the audience. You're a fucking idiot You're a fucking idiot. I'm not even gonna help you understand
Starting point is 01:04:53 I'm just gonna show you a bunch of garbage and you're gonna have to be like, I guess I like it Jared Leto Obviously we had opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion It is now time for second opinions Oh, I really want to bite somebody. I kind of want to fight with somebody Why doesn't that Smith like me? I need a second opinion Amazing great job give it up I Here's what I got I got some second opinions from Amazon here we go. There are
Starting point is 01:05:38 339,000 reviews, I don't think that's right Does seem odd Molly Reynolds One of our producers put this together 39,000 but it does seem like because of the internet meme of occasion of it. Maybe it's true Oh, is that it? Yeah, just because it became such a I think it might have been yeah 55% are five-star reviews. Here we go Kate Pugh writes Remember when there was a good old horror movie on every Saturday night? No, and you and your friends would curl up in the family or living room with bowls of popcorn and potato chips just waiting to be scared
Starting point is 01:06:14 Guess what they're back They're back. Yep. This is one of a new generation of horror movies Not the classic Frankenstein Dracula the Wolfman plus the myriad of sequels and sci-fi Outer space Japanese monsters Nor is it the slasher gore everywhere Friday the 13th Elm Street losing your lunch type that was prevalent a few years ago This is a good straightforward horror movie Worth the cost, but you'll remember it But you won't have any trouble going upstairs afterwards five stars the title of the review fast shipping and quick handling
Starting point is 01:06:52 That you know what's disappointing is and that and and I hadn't even really thought about this But wouldn't this movie would have been so much better if it was a horror movie Or if it was I think I'm trying to be into being or yeah, I know it was horror in in some senses But like like the Marvel The what was it the werewolf by night Marvel presents or whatever the what werewolf by night Which is on Disney plus right now is a Marvel horror? Special and that was I thought fantastic and tonally got what this this movie kind of missed 100% yeah, I mean I'll end it on this one from baby doo-doo
Starting point is 01:07:33 Oh really you're gonna end it with baby doo-doo baby doo-doo says this baby's doo-doo Maybe this baby's so cute and you said it's COVID-free, so I want to hold it Don't fall into that trap. I fell into this trap before and I got bit Baby doo-doo writes this is a movie. I watched ten times before my rental ended of 48 hours Worth the time serial killer Worth the time and money. I have watched almost every Vampire movie and vampire series a big fun of the Dracula character However, Morbius is giving the best of both worlds
Starting point is 01:08:21 The ending is the idea that there's a positive of Morbius becoming part of the Avengers It creates the biggest expectation of Morbius I commend the writer for a meaningful storyline as well as the producers and actors that brought it to life double thumbs up Incredible, but here's the thumbs up is double Not thumb up. Yeah, you never say thumb up. What's great? And that makes no if you're gonna watch it through the roof if you're gonna watch it that much by the movie You loved it by the movie. All right. It's crazy Morbius the living vampire exists in the same cinematic universe and Michael the nerd correct me if I'm wrong as
Starting point is 01:09:02 Manbat or is manbat DC? Okay, thank you. Thank you. Okay disregard. Oh, right. I I was actually thinking this whole time that Batman was in the movie a really rattled me I was thinking that Batman was in this universe, but he's not because I just think of this is like a shitty DC movie But it's a marvel and yeah, the thing is this feels like it's more of a DC movie than it is a Marvel yeah, like and as does Venom frankly and Venom to Do dot dot dot All right, so this is written by our friend so when we announced that we were doing Morbius here in Chicago
Starting point is 01:09:42 I got an email and email said I'm a huge fan of the podcast a long-time listener and I was a crew member on Morbius My role kept me very close to the action. I can't tell you my name But you can call me bat on the wall. I'm gonna I'm gonna have a twix. Is that okay? Yeah, go for it and Here are The six points that bat on the wall writes first up Jared was method acting this included acting very sickly and disabled during the first half of filming for example
Starting point is 01:10:22 He used crutches to go to the bathroom hobbling down the corridor at a snails pace each toilet break would last 30 minutes, but it was a two-minute walk away He also wouldn't come to set for five hours once because he hadn't found Dr. Morbius inside of him yet I'm so nervous that I'm gonna be on a job at some point and somebody's gonna write an email to something like this and be like Jason Manzuchus spent so long having diarrhea in his trailer And it didn't come out because he was nervous because he didn't have wipes for his butt Bat on the wall continues and says that
Starting point is 01:11:07 He also wore an earwig while filming and his assistant earwig is an earpiece where they feed you your lines Like the same thing that Tyrese had in his ear Where he gets the police? Yeah. Yeah, except it except that it's meant in Tyrese's Tyrese isn't using it as an actor. His character is using it for to hear the police exactly But this is some this is something so that some people need to have their lines fed to them And some people who are big method actors like even Marlon Brando liked having the earwig because it kept them that much more in The moment if I don't know what I'm gonna say, how can I be acting Brando is the if you haven't seen it before When you go home tonight Google Marlon Brando
Starting point is 01:11:54 Q cards or something like that There's a great photo of Marlon Brando on the set of the godfather Doing a scene and Robert Duvall the incomparable the incredible Robert Duvall has a Q card hung around his body With Brando's lines on it. It's like this big Jason, I have also worn a cue card for an actor. I was working with you wore a cue card multiple times multiple reveal times
Starting point is 01:12:27 Okay point number two Jared Leto constantly ad-lib what he thought was hilarious dialogue But was actually deeply unfunny and vaguely disturbing Most takes would last 15 minutes all just him Solidly ad-libbing it became such an issue But there were meetings with the studio to see if they could get anything from the scenes were they salvageable The best slash worst day for this was a scene with Morbius and Martine flirting in the lab There was a cat in there and Jared kept on repeating weird lines like
Starting point is 01:13:15 That cat just shit in my mouth You got a yes and that You got it. You got a yes and that I'm gonna and I bet it tasted great I'm gonna roll that cat up like a little but burrito It what that's not a thing nope like a but burrito is not a real thing and finally Gravity always wins in the end. I guess that accounts for the pubic hair in my cake Wait, is that a Clarence Thomas line?
Starting point is 01:14:00 That's going back that's for the oldies in the room that's for Gen X right there Matt Smith cool person great actor. Hope he got paid. Okay And Then finally this We shot a fight sequence for one and a half months It was a huge fight between Morbius and Milo in Central Park Which was an English wood where they painted the bottom half of the trees bright red And then we shot the rest in an English park that looked nothing like Central Park
Starting point is 01:14:38 I looked up the plot of the release movie because I have not seen it and The bats that help them defeat Milo did not exist in the original version Morbius jabs the serum into Milo's heart when they're grappling mid-air They fall to the ground in Central Park in an embrace then they also changed the Martín plot It originally ended with Morbius and Martín flying off into the sky together while the cops watch and That on the wall includes the script right here. So the this is how the movie ends Morbius says ready to eat another twig he holds out his hand Martín takes it. Martín says let's get out of here then dot dot dot a big gust of wind
Starting point is 01:15:25 blows through Morbius says wait for it Dot dot dot now They leap into the air together catching an updraft the cops Are taken back by surprise They train their weapons into the sky on Morbius and Martín and Morbius says easy guys settle down credits And
Starting point is 01:15:58 Bad on the wall wants us to know that all the after-predates scenes were not shot in principal photography So that was all that makes sense. Yeah, this movie You know got a 15% on the tomato meter But a 71% on the audience score The budget was 83 million the opening weekend was 39 The domestic gross is 73 the top movies of 2022 are top-con Maverick Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness and Jurassic World Dominion this movie did come in 23 in the top 200 movies of 2022 and it was beat by Moonfall Moonfall made more money
Starting point is 01:16:33 Than So that is that the only other thing I want to add here that I think is interesting is that Jared Leto also said that Pokemon was a big influence. Of course the portrayal of Morbius's powers gotta get them all and And Jared Leto also said this is this first movie is the first date and You know, we're just getting to know each other This is kind of our first up for more of a first impression. Yeah, I Think if you look at Wolverine if you look at Batman, you see a lot of these films evolve over time
Starting point is 01:17:10 You know, there's a relationship that develops there and who knows We'll see what who knows I I genuinely hope nothing happens Although I would love I would happily take Matt Smith and Martine forward Yeah, those are characters. I'm interested in well Matt Smith is dead Is he is anybody dead? I mean in these worlds. I don't know. Yeah, we could really The woman who plays Martine. I think is incredible I've been referring to her as Bix from Andor because she's fantastic in an incredible show
Starting point is 01:17:45 She was also in father of the bride and the remake of father of the bride Which is also incredible and she's fantastic And I've been calling her Bix from Andor the whole night and I wanted to just say her name is Adria Arjuna, so I wanted to shut that up amazing fantastic. Would you recommend this movie would I recommend this movie? Fuck yeah It's more than time, baby even though I hated it I would absolutely recommend it because exactly kind of what you and June said. It's very slick. It's good It's like they do a good job even though it makes no sense. It's a pilot garbage
Starting point is 01:18:23 And I don't care about any of this nonsense. I will say this that This movie does pay off some dividends because I was watching it June was about five minutes behind me and Occasionally, I will get a little bit ahead of her and I'd look back and I don't remember that scene at all and she's only five minutes behind me and There were things that I just straight up missed and like Yeah, and I was like, oh It does pay off fun. There's more here. There's more. It's a you know, there's a there's a lot going on And I think you're a lot going on because we're watching Jared Leto. Oh god
Starting point is 01:19:01 We're watching Jared Leto turn into a living vampire who has a thirst for blood and spicy Cheetos Like when he takes down the counterfeit ring. He's like, you know, get out of here. You can take the money But leave the spicy Cheetos and I was like, is that what he's supposed to all know Michael that Morbius is a hot talkies guy Actually Michael, is there anything that you would like to say? Don't attack Michael online Oh Poor Michael poor Michael's like hey if I got anything wrong, don't troll me online
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