How Did This Get Made? - Q: The Winged Serpent LIVE!

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Paul, Jason, & June break down the 1982 campy cult monster flick Q: The Winged Serpent starring Michael Moriarty & David Carradine. LIVE from Largo in L.A., they discuss the undercover mime in Richard Roundtree's death scene, Michael Moriarty's unhinged performance, the window washer's delicate decapitation, the meaning of the bizarre bar piano scene, and so much more. Plus, June gets startled by watching a scene in the film she'd already watched. Tix on sale for Philly live show on Nov 16th and holiday virtual live show on Dec 12th! Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and for more on bad movies.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

In the immortal words of the Wu-Tang Clan, protect your neck. Little did we know they were talking about Kwek-sa-kwotl. We saw Q, the winged serpent, so you know what that means. Whoo! -♪ Now we start to roll our eyes out of the street...

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And just a bunch of movies, why they making the grade? Here's a real question for you, how did this get paid? Hello, people of Earth, and hello, people of Los Angeles! We are live at Largo, our LA home, talking about Q, the winged serpent. The year 1982. And what is this movie about? A lot. It's about two detectives who work homicide and robbery... who are trying to find out who this killer is, who's doing some pretty evil shit.

But meanwhile, it's also about a petty thief, a driver, if you will, who gets caught up in a robbery gone wrong. Oh, yeah, and the big thing is, there's a giant fucking flying lizard in New York that are eating people's heads right off. That's about all the things that you need to know. And I'll tell you this much, this movie is worth it.

In every single way, David Carradine, Richard Roundtree, oh, the list goes on and on, A plus acting, Academy Award winning performances here. As the title of the movie says, you won't even have time to scream. Ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna break down this entire movie for you. But first, let me introduce my co-host.

Please welcome Jason Manzoukas. Woo! What's up, jerks? Woo! That's right. That's right. Here we go, Largo! Oh, boy. That's right, that's right here we go Oh

Boy wow, I wish they could all be this good I Wish I could spend every afternoon before a show just basking in the glory of a movie like cue the winged Oh, I would say cue the wing it got it. I would but I don't know well You know look they don't say it in the film. Got it. I would, but I don't know. Well, you know, look, they don't say it in the film. Oh, they don't. They don't. And it was like, yeah, we'll get into it. I wouldn't even know if I would call him a serpent. Because a serpent.

Yes. Oh, no, this is a dinosaur. Let me be clear. This movie has a dinosaur in it, but it is much more focused on interrogating the absolutely unhinged performance by Michael Moriarty, who is stone cold out of his mind

from top to bottom, T to B, nuts. Not only that, sounds just like Bill Burr the whole time. That's it! That... So right before we came here, right before we came here, I was like, I know that voice. What is that voice? And I couldn't put it... It's Bill Burr the whole time. You're right. You're right. I know it because I walked away and I wasn't watching it,

but I was listening to it for a minute. I was like, oh shit, that's Bill Burr. So much so that I looked up, is it possible they're from the same place? No. Wow. Well we'll play you a clip of Michael Moriarty who does give an A plus performance in this film but before we do let's bring out my other co-hosts please welcome June Diane Rayfield. How are you June? I'm okay. Well, I'm glad to hear that.

I'm happy to be here. I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to be here. Well, another tagline of Q is, Q is here. So you're here. Q is here. By the way, when you first played the trailer, I thought, oh, no, I didn't watch a movie called Q.

I watched the wrong movie. I didn't. I watched this movie. I watched this movie, but I didn't, I watched this movie. I watched this movie, but I never heard him referred to as Q. No, of course not. Oh, they don't. They don't ever call him Q. Yeah, this is the, I feel like this probably was made

under the title of the name of the winged- Quetzalcoatl. Yes, the winged serpent. Or I think it was probably Quetzalcoatl, and then they were like, you can't release a movie, call it Quetzalcoatl. How about Q the winged serpent? One of the wildest parts, I mean, we're gonna get into it,

but one of the wildest parts of this movie is the fact that we don't meet the man responsible for it all until the last four minutes? Yep. Maybe three. And he is so brutally dispatched. I have never seen... a more brutal... killing.

I just couldn't understand why... arguably, he has the most interesting story. We should be obsessed with him. Obsessed with him! We should be obsessed with him. We need a monologue. We need something. And everything he's up to, and instead,

with a movie is... the movie is following a two-bit crook. Yes. Who has no information on Q the winged serpent, except for pure happenstance. Yep. I mean, this movie is all over the place, but Jason, I wanted to respect you and ask how was it to watch a movie all about eggs? Oh, boy oh boy, I'll be honest. I didn't like it at all.

I was like- Jason might be allergic to this movie. I did get hives. I did break out into hives during that section where he goes, that's a big omelet. I absolutely am certain 90% of this movie was improvised. Absolutely. When David Carradine said,

I'm gonna take my birth control, I was like, what? What is that lie? What's that mean? I wrote that down. What's that mean? I wrote that down too and I was like, all this is is a slight insight on how David Carradine flirts and fucks and I didn't like it. Yes. What does that mean?

What does it mean? I'm hung up on it. What does it mean? I'm gonna take my birth control pill. I'm sorry, I wrote it down. At one point I was like, did he take Viagra and is that sort of the funny joke he's making. Does he think this is how the pill works,

the guy takes it? I don't know. I think he was just being, like I think sometimes when you get to be very famous, people laugh at everything that you do and then you don't realize like what's funny or what's not and he's like, I said there's plenty of women and they thought it was hilarious.

I do think, I do think, cause we would have people come on the league who were like bigger actors who weren't comfortable with improvisation and then they would get excited to do improv with us and then they would say insane shit. Yeah. That had the cadence of a joke, something like I'm going to go take my birth control pill flippantly said as you leave the table. And it's like, you know, and then, but no one, yeah. But here's the thing though, he's not on camera for that line.

It's a line. It's an ADR. Yeah. So that's what I, again, I know the filmmakers thought about it. I know that they sat, they slept on it. They, they watched many cuts and thought that's what this moment needs. Well, what they were, I feel like what they were like it, they watched many cuts and thought, that's what this moment needs. A little levity. I feel like what they were like was, you know what, because of the edit now, there's a bit of like a... Dead air. We need to cover this moment. And we need a button for this scene now.

And David Caron, he's like, I got just the thing, man. Roll the tape, roll the tape. I'll drop it right in. I'm gonna go take my birth control pill. All right, I'll see you guys later. Wait, what? But doesn't he also come back in and then just like nuzzle her?

He does. Oh yeah. So it wasn't even the button. It's a sort of like a mid scene, everything moment. They AGR'd it because nothing's happening. He just leaves frame and then comes back. And so they, yeah, they snuck that line in, but why? There's so many instances where I feel like he's doing shit like that, where he's not giving them opportunities to not use it, like when he's drawing the picture of the bird in the

board meeting. I forgot about that! By the way, they didn't get any coverage where he's not drawing the bird. He made them use it. And you know what? I have worked with actors who do that. And I always tip my hat. I always tip my hat. Unreal move. I was like, this is a fucking insane move. To handicap a film that way.

It is like a terrorist negotiating. Oh, there's no lines for this scene? OK, I'll just do this. But here is the joke of it. His drawing looks better than the actual winged serpent. Yeah, what our eyes have seen. Yes, we have seen this claymation fucking dinosaur. I mean, this movie has ripped off Godzilla 19,

whatever it was with Matthew Broderick. I mean, it's the same plot, but this is just a dinosaur movie. And he drew, I would say, a pretty fair representation of Q. You know what's interesting about the Q the winged serpent? Boy, would I love it if because of this episode, Q the winged serpent became the most searched for Q in existence. Well, I felt very bad.

Our producer, Molly, said that now her Internet is fucked because all she was doing was typing in Q. Well, here's the interesting thing though. The sequel is called Q Drain the Swamp. The interesting thing about Q is that. The Q, the winged serpent from the swamp. Q only, I think, attacks when people are on high rises or hanging off of them. Like, I don't know why Q the winged serpent

can't swoop down to ground level to pick someone up. Because he's trying to be invisible. Wait, what? Yes. Q's whole... Oh, no, I didn't ex... No, first of all, I don't believe that. I know the characters give us that justification that Q is trying to stay within the sun's rays perfectly

so that people can't see him, but other people can. Oh, there's Q, anybody, anybody, anybody... Yeah, give it up. Anybody above floor 30 can see Q, the winged serpent, like, right there. I mean, like, you 30 can see Q the winged serpent, like right there. Easily. I mean, like, you can see anything in the city alleyway.

That's the indictment of this movie. Yes, we work in the high rises, but we don't pay attention. Look right outside our window. Wow, wow, wow. We're on the phone. Wow, Paul. Eat the rich. Wow.

I mean, this is it. Thank God, thank God Al Qaeda didn't get hold of Q the winged serpent. How did this come in? How did this come in? There, I mean, the opening, the opening scene of this movie is one of my favorite scenes of all time. It's a window washer.

Oh. Who is sexually harassing a woman who I guess works in shoe manufacturing. It's a window washer who is sexually harassing a woman who I guess works in shoe manufacturing. I don't know, but. I wish the whole movie was about her and her job in fashion. And the way that he's like,

hey, hey, hey, hey, gorgeous. And she's like, oh, he's cleaning the window again. As if he, like, by the way, he's not cleaning that window. And he's going, you love me, you love me. And she's like, oh, this fucking creep. And it's like, it's like a, it's like a, it's like the opening of Grease, you know? Just bouncing back and forth.

But why are those windows like completely soundproof? Yes. They are both, they're soundproof. I think they are experiencing. Because you would be able to hear something. It would be muted. Oh, he's like, rrrk, rrrk, rrrk, rrrk, rrrk. Oh yeah, she complains about the squeaking.

She can hear the squeaking, but it seems like they can't hear each other speak. Well, because she's ignoring him like a normal, sane human being. She's like, oh, this guy, he's still washing the windows. She's like, hi. And it seems like he's just lowering to her floor, and the amount of soap he's put on there,

he's never making any headway. It's just more and more soap. He's never doing the other side of the squeegee. It's just the soapy side. Well, today's his job review, and Cue the Winged Serpent says, you're fired because his head gets chomped. Now, fun fact, real empire state building squeegee man.

Oh, oh, wow. Wow. They got a real guy to act out that part, and they killed him. Now, but that. I would love it if you were like, they hired an actor, but he just couldn't do it correctly. They needed the authenticity of that guy. Well, they definitely had... I mean, look, there's something about this movie that I found fascinating, which was they had access to a lot of places I've never seen in New

York, mainly a lot of these up top of building like this is holes and outdoor spaces. I live in New York for a long time. No one ever invited me in here. Never seen a pool. This this movie has access to and shows us how to get to more rooftops in Midtown Manhattan that I was ever on in 13 years of living there. It was not an option. Like the rooftops I was on. There's no door that opened up into a rooftop. Oh yeah, I don't think I ever climbed a ladder

on floor 86 in New York City in my life. Now here's the thing that pissed me off about this movie. The first killing is this squeegee man who gets his head and by the way, if you're a bird, take the whole body. The head is not gonna be fulfilling enough. That's like 8 M&M. Here's the thing, if he's doing this, right? And listen, Q is a winged serpent,

and I'm certain, and is seemingly immortal, I'm not sure, but to have the ability to swoop in, like having that much momentum. Wingspan, too. Yes, that much momentum, that much weight to come in, bite just his head off, make no impression on the building. No.

She doesn't see, there's no shadow cast on her. She sees nothing. It's just, bloop! Yeah. It is so delicate. It's surgical. It is so delicate. Cue the winged serpent. Isn't interested in eating your whole body?

No. Although there are times where he'll just pick a motherfucker up. Yeah. Fly away. I was so excited when he finally grabbed somebody in his claw. I'm like, you got the claws, use them. Oh, it's the guy in the pool. It's the guy in the pool I think is the first claw grabbed.

Well, I will say this. So these detectives are investigating a murder at the Empire State Building. Now, what's the other main building? The one that looks identical to the Empire State Building? I was like, is this the Empire State Building? It's the Chrysler Building. But it's like, you can't have an inciting incident at the building that looks just like the other building. You can't have two things like 10 blocks away from each other like this. This is too much. I just thought, visually, I was so confused like,

oh wait, is he in the, cause he goes, I gotta go see my lawyer. Then he ran in, I think they showed the exterior of the Empire State Building, but then he's in the- I think the whole movie also is stolen. You know what I mean? Stolen shots. They don't have permits to be on anything.

I think most of the shots where blood is dripping on people, real people, real shots. Okay, can I give you... This is real. Well, I mean, the first scene when Richard Roundtree and David Carradine are out talking about what they just saw, the man with the head being bitten off, they have, like, they've roped off the bystanders

who are just watching two actors act in a movie because the ambulance has pulled away and they're just like, I wonder what they're saying. What are they talking about? They're staring at them and smiling like, look at this, it's a movie, it's a movie. And they're all. Hey, hey, Kung Fu, hey, Kung Fu, hey.

But the other issue I had with that ambulance, like hurrying away, like that man is so, that man has no head. Okay. That man has no head and they don't know where the head is. And they throw, they wheel him out and put him in there and the sirens go on. It's like, what are you, what are you doing? Like this, like, what are you doing? Looking for the head.

And then David Carradine says at one point, well, I mean, it's going to show up somewhere. Yeah. As though they always do. I just want to underline it, June, even if they did have the head, that ambiance has no reason to run away. No one's getting their head reattached.

Once that's off, you're done. I would have loved it if there was a tag at the very end of that scene where the ambulance is pulling away and the woman from is like, I did always love him. You just get a little insight to like, it would have been love. One thing I really didn't ever get to the bottom of, you know, our gentleman at the very end again, we saw last three minutes of the movie, the man who caused all of this. He has convinced a number of people to...

Men. A number of men to sell, to sacrifice their bodies. But by the way, they're awake for their own skinning. Yes. The way that they skin, can I show a clip of it? No, no, no. I would love it if you did. We've been through too much. We've been through, no. I would love it if you did. We've been through too much. We've been through too much.

I would love it if you did. When we first meet the first skinned person, they're in a whole... Let's not even meet. Okay, yes. When we are first introduced to the first skinned person, they're on white bedding. There's no blood anywhere in the room.

And every piece of skin is... Okay, all right. It's enough. But it's enough, Paul. Okay. But I... I was fascinated by the people who wanted to do... Who are those people?

This guy. And why? This man who gets on the table and says, it's cold. What's... Don't worry, you'll get heated up in a second when I start peeling your flesh off your body. Now normally a movie like this would have like two like opposing forces, right? The people who are trying to bring about Cue the Winged winged serpent their God, right? Yeah, who's gonna whatever whatever and the person who realizes this plan and is like I must stop them from doing this

I must stop the Nazis from opening the Ark of the Covenant or whatever right came out the same year as this movie insane but in this movie, it's We are following none of the people that are involved with the interesting thing that's happening. So those people are off maybe making a better movie somewhere. Well, it's true because what I kept on wondering

about the gentleman who was making all this happen is like what an interesting position he's in where he doesn't have to get skinned. Yeah. He just gets to see his God alive and well, and other people have to sacrifice themselves. What about the guy that makes those hats? Makes the Cue the Winged Serpent hat?

I mean, yeah, he's wearing a big headdress. The big headpiece. I also want to know about that. Oh, wait a minute, sorry. Yeah. I also want to know why the altar for the sacrifices is in the storage room of like somebody's lawyer's office. Like the stone altar is in a room covered in shelves and document boxes.

And I also wanted to know where was his lawyer? Why wasn't he working? Well, his lawyer did eventually come in because his lawyer... At the very end with no explanation of where he was. Well, sometimes he takes a lunch break. You know, he's a successful lawyer. The idea that these cops are not good cops, and I want to make sure that I'm on record that,

because when they do find that first delayed person, they're like, ugh, gross, gross, ugh. And then one of the cops just picks up a pillow and is like, ugh, throws it on the body, AKA the evidence. Yes. You're right, Paul. And notice that, too.

And it's not, it's not, for those of you who haven't seen the movie, it's not like, oh, I'm going to cover their face for their own dignity. It is not respect. It's the way that you throw a pillow at someone like, oh, you scared me, you son of a bitch. Yeah, it's like that. If you're playing, how did this get made bingo?

That was a pillow. That was a full-throated pillow. How do you pronounce it? Pillow? Yeah. We're both from Long Island. We both say that word. It's hard. The police are, I agree very bad in this,

so much so that when they find the guys actively performing the sacrifice, where the man is cut open, right, and then the cops come in, the naked guy jumps off the table, comes out of the, the cop shoots him immediately, and then looks around and is like, he was coming for me, he was coming for me.

I have like- I love that moment. I love that moment. I love that moment. This movie, I wouldn't have been surprised if this movie followed an internal affairs investigation. That's how tertiary to important events the characters in this movie are. Well, because also, why is that police department

so threatened by this report on this human sacrifice? Wigs? They seem to all have crazy wigs, I feel. Do you think the actors have wigs or the characters just are wearing wigs? Now that's interesting. I didn't notice the wigs as much as I noticed

that all of them, if you told me they were part-time strippers and part-time cops, because they all had like slightly unbuttoned blue shirts, hair was wild. And at one point, the guy before he's gonna kill this winged serpent, he's just chugging a beer. Like I'm like, these are-

This police department, the NYPD, when they're major sting at the end to get the winged, to get cue the winged serpent, there are police officers just sitting outside in baskets. Yeah. Hanging from the building. In baskets. With machine guns?

Yes. Brrrah, brrrah, brrrah, brrrah. Nobody is like, you know what? This did not work for King Kong. Why are we doing this? Paul, can I ask you just a super quick question? Yes. Do you have any evidence available that Michael Moriarty

plays the piano? Yes. I have. That's? I can blow your mind with three quick facts. Michael Moriarty was not written to play the piano. But when the director found out that he did, he's like, let's make it a whole subplot.

Wow. So that is to the improvised part of it. I also want to speak to this part of it too, which is, yes, there were actors on the top of the Chrysler building firing machine guns that were unloading blanks that were falling on New York City citizens thankfully there is a net that protects like debris from falling so it didn't hit anyone and the directors response to that was we were

upset because we wanted to see people reacting to getting hot shell casings dropping on their heads. Incredible stuff. And because of this movie, you are not allowed to fire live rounds. Really? Because of this movie? On the top of buildings like that anymore.

That's good. If the movie did anything. Um... It's so funny because the scene, that bar scene, I'll never stop thinking about that bar scene. Can I play it? Holy shit. For the rest of my days. It was haunting. This is incredible. This is... And I really mean this when I say this movie is,

in our, like, you know, pantheon of movies, fantastic. For just such scenes as this. -♪ Go away evil dream. Hmm, hmm. -♪ -♪ I'm gonna miss you. I'm gonna miss you. Leave my baby alone. -♪ I couldn't understand that.

I couldn't understand that. Go away now. Okay. She wakes up crying every night. Do you ever find that guy? I will just say as a positive for a second, some people seem into it. Some people seem out of it. I don't know what the movie is trying to tell me. I couldn't tell if people loved it,

I couldn't tell if people hated it, I couldn't tell if we were supposed to like it, I couldn't tell if we were supposed to hate it. I couldn't understand what he was trying to do full stop. He walks into the bar where his girlfriend works, he says to the owner. But we don't know what that. But we know, we know that eye contact.

He's making it meaningful eye contact with her. But regardless. I thought he was flirting. No, the bartender's like, how did you know we had an opening for a piano player? And he's like, uh, and she's like, well, but to me, it seemed to me, it seemed like the guy, the owner did not want a musician. That's what I was confounded by. Michael Moriarty, to me, it felt like he was staking out a place to rob,

or this was part of the job. Because also David Carradine shows up in this scene, truly inexplicable. David Carradine likes a beverage. David Carradine likes a beverage. Multiple times we see him when he's off duty, he's just getting a drink. Coffee, beer,

whatever it may be, this stays hydrated. Top to bottom, like absolute nuts. And the crazy part about this scene is I think that this scene is supposed to endear us to Michael Margarit's character. I think we are supposed to root for him. At one point he's- He thinks we're supposed to.

Okay, he is a racist. He's also admitted to like kicking the shit out of his girlfriend at one point. No, he hasn't. She has. She says it. She's like, well, at least you didn't punch me this time. I'm like, oh Jesus. He's an alcoholic.

I'm like, this man is so, and he's not well. He's strange. Oh no, there were periods where I was like, is his performance meant to be like, really nuts? Like what is he? He's a nervous eater who, I'm afraid of everything, but I'm not afraid of heights. When he says, when he comes back from the attic

full of skeletons to his girlfriend, and he's like, I just, I wanna cry. I haven't cried since I was a little kid, but I just wanna cry when I saw. He's doing so much. Doing the most. And this is like what this scene is to me.

What's so odd about it is it starts off, I'm like, okay. Oh no, I'm so sorry. I just wanna cry, but I'm supposed to be a man. When he says, when he sits down at this piano, there's a, this is, I'll just give you my point of view of the emotions that I went through. Yeah, please, please. I was like, okay, we're gonna now see

that this criminal has actually got a real talent. A wonderful pianist. That's gonna be great. Then he starts playing and I'm like, okay. Maybe this is like kind of that moment in Back to the Future where Marty McFly and his band is playing and then Huey Lewis is like, I'm afraid you're just too darn loud.

I'm like, okay, maybe he's like, it's they're not ready for that. Yeah. And then he's playing in such an aggressive way. I'm like, is he in here because he wants to start a fight with the bartender because the bartender's been hitting on his girlfriend and he wants to be like, fuck you.

Like, you know, it's like. The way he's playing, first of all, clearly, because in many instances you can see his fingers. So he is clearly playing. He can play the piano. Sort of. That being said. I mean.

It's not barely, barely playing. But what he's doing is not anything that would get him a job. Let me be clear. Anything that anyone would listen to. So that makes me feel like he, again, he mustn't want this. This must not be real. He's here for some other reason. But yet they, but I don't-

Do you think that he was going in there to impress his girlfriend? I think, I think the movie logic is he wants to be a piano guy instead of being a crook. And now he's got, this is his chance, he doesn't get it. So now he has to take the crook. So because he doesn't get this job, he has to take the job robbing the diamond store. That's what the movie wants.

I don't think it's successful, but I think that's the plot. As I'm hearing it, it makes sense. Because there were so many looks and so many weird, I couldn't press it out. But just play a normal fucking song if you want. Yes, play a song. And I'm gonna say this. I'm okay with all of this

until I hear how he learned to play this song at the end, which is the weirdest racist rant I've ever heard. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Where I'm like, ooh, I'm like, this is making me uncomfortable. Like, I'm like, you shouldn't be sharing this. And then, and I then, and what I've come to realize is that that man who taught him hated him.

Yeah. And knew he was a racist. Like, yeah, I'll show you how to play piano. This is what we call jazz. And then he's like, thanks buddy. And then he's gone on his entire life. Like, don't worry, this famous guy taught me this. And it was a giant fuck you.

So that's my logic is that he has been an asshole his entire life and this guy is Unpleasant man at this point. I have to think his girlfriend is a fool because yeah, she should be like uh, I Got a dump this guy. She should have dumped him a long time ago. I mean he is a garbage person. Yeah, but Makes this movie one of the best films I've ever seen. Now, when he's up in this robbery, I rewound this scene a handful of times

because it's a robbery in which we don't see the interior of the place that they're robbing. They walk in and then very mutedly we hear, hey, put it down, who are those guys? And then he's running out and I'm like, what happened? I don't know. And I'm like, did, put it down. Who are those guys? And then he's running out. I'm like, what happened? I don't know. And I'm like, did I miss it?

He does have a gun. It looks like someone has been shot. He's got a bag full of diamonds. He gets hit by a cab. The diamonds go flying. He has no response to go get them. And then he just starts... He takes off running. Nobody's chasing him for a long time.

Not at all. He's gotten away with it. He's running to a phone booth to call his lawyer to say, I'm gonna be in there in a second. But also, like, don't tell anyone. Just walk off into the night. Nobody saw you, nothing's happening, nobody's after you.

Oh, yeah, you don't... Here's what you don't need to do. Go get the diamonds! You don't need to... Get the diamonds! Get the diamonds and or go home. You don't need to climb into the roof of the Chrysler building. Okay, that journey, I wanna get to that in a second.

I wanna get to how he ends up there. And the foley work, the foley work in this is nuts. When he's climbing the ladder, it sounds like he's farting every step of the way. The thing that's so crazy about this robbery is there's so much made of the fact that he's just a driver. He doesn't go in and do the dirty work

and he's not risking of himself to do the dirty work, which is so fascinating knowing what happens to him later on. Like I think the movie wants us to believe that this is a guy initially who is not like willing to take major risks in his life. But then at the end, he's willing to let people die so that he can make $2 million off the city. So he can, like, the amount of focus that's given to his negotiating what he wants.

By the way. Which is, I believe, all improvised. I want a fleet of helicopters. What? OK. When he starts talking about how he's going to own the copyright to all photographs, I was like, I want him in the room at the next WTA strike. Holy shit. This guy knows what's up.

Send him to the DNC immediately. Yes, get him at the table. I need this motherfucker choosing what's up. Because he was, by the way, he was right. I want a million dollars. I want to have no, for whatever crimes I do commit in the future, you can't get me on that either.

Next one. My record in the past and the future, minority report style, which would mean that he could go off on a killing spree, could be a rob. Like he's, he's not saying I won't commit any more crimes. He's like, not even giving me carte blanche. But Paul, what, okay, So this is what I don't understand about the other criminals that he's with. If he doesn't want to go in there, I don't know why they give him a gun, but I believe someone died in there. I think two people got shot. Who are those guys?

Well, here's my question though. In that moment, does he, does Michael Moore already decide, In that moment, does he, does Michael Moore already decide, I see shits going down, I'm going to grab the diamonds? Yes. How do you know that? I think he's a piece of shit. Okay. I think he's not, I think he like left, I think he saw an opportunity, grabbed the diamonds and left.

Wow. But then he doesn't even seem like he wants those diamonds. No. And then there's also no one who finds it, like a little depending hey look diamonds I thought like serpent was gonna get I thought you were gonna get that hey look diamonds let's ADR that it can somebody ADR that into the movie I like to call my birth control I'm gonna take my birth control and just popped a diamond into its mouth by By the way, also in that scene with David and Garret and again with the birth control, I forgot the best part, in a kimono.

Oh yeah. Oh, incredible stuff. Reading about the Q, the winged serpent. Let's just go back to how we end up in the nest. Oh yeah, please. In the top of the Chrysler building. So he goes in that building to meet with his lawyer to confess to a crime that nobody has seen him do.

Nobody knows. Seems like everyone's dead. And then the security guard for the building having no concept that Michael Moriarty is related to a crime that has just happened, just is like, hey, and he's like, uh-oh, and Moriarty starts ascending to the rafters. And no one's chasing him. Again, no one's chasing him. He's always acting suspicious.

He's never not suspicious. At a certain point, though, didn't you get the feeling that he's not even worried about the security guard watching him or coming after him? He's just continuing to walk up, up, up. I feel like, do you feel like also that maybe these were just Michael Moriarty choices and the director was like, Mike, I don't think we can follow you up there. Well, come on, get a camera up here. Come on, come on. All right. So here's my again, if we're going to go backwards and reinvent the script, the very easy fix would be

he runs out of the Julius Drow with the diamonds. I don't know where to hide these. Knock, knock, knock on my lawyer's door. Hey, can I put these in the safe? He's not there. Shit. I'll hide it up in the top of the building. I go up there, up a nest, and then maybe they'll never see it here

and he hides it there. Whatever it is, that at least gives me- That's great, Paul. That's great. Imagine if the diamonds- By the way, you know how else that helps? You know what else helps there? Is if then he is to the guys,

I know where the diamonds are. And he does bring them to the nest because in fact, the diamonds are there! We don't know where the diamonds are! The fact that he goes up there unprompted with nothing to hide for no reason. And when the reason was so easy, he had the bag in his hands. Why does he have to lose the diamonds?

Why? I don't know. And then also it's very confusing why those two other thugs are willing to go on that ladder or are willing to ascend it in front of him. Yes, by the way, the cops do the same thing. It's really- Hey, there's a giant winged serpent up there. Let's all go up on the ladder

because we'll have more power. All like basically like dominoes. Also- Chomp, chomp, chomp. It's like Pac-Man. Remember when the cops were like, I don't want you to go in there unarmed and try and give him a gun?

They do give him a gun. I don't want you to go in there unarmed and try and give him a gun? They do give him a gun. I don't think so, man. What? Don't trust me. What are we doing? Don't trust me, I'm a scumbag. It's so crazy. Everybody wants to give him a gun. I loved, I genuinely loved, again,

I know a lot of the stuff I'm saying is repetitive just because I do feel like Michael Moriarty is improvising a lot. I can see it and it's really funny to me what he's choosing to fixate on. One of which is the giant canvas tent on top of the Chrysler building. He says, you're not listening to me. You got to get the big canvas tent. He says it, I'm going to say 30 times in the course of seven minutes. You can tell it's an idea he's obsessed with,

and they had to put it in, again, they had to put it in. But he's also, like, he's seen, I think, multiple dead bodies up there and remains. Can I just say the other thing that he says in this scene, you're talking about his improv, when he comes back and we'll play a clip of this scene with his girlfriend, he's upset. She's worried, where have you been?

And he says, he fell asleep under a staircase. And my thought was, when? Yeah. We didn't wake up. Up in the Christurb, in the nest? Did he fall asleep in the nest area? I don't know, but that wouldn't- Here's a question that's never answered, or if it was, I missed it.

But at one point he says, Q the Winged Serpent hasn't attacked him and he's been up there twice. Yeah. Why? Yes. Why? Why? It's so much so that I was like, I hadn't thought of it until then.

Is he part serpent? He brings up an interesting choice. And I thought to myself, is it possible he is Cue the Winged Serpent? I had the same thought. Is he turning into Cue the Winged Serpent? And I was like, cool move. Nope. Nope, never answered.

I want to just talk about the one thing that you'll never see, because it was in the original theatrical print. Is this not that? Is what I watched on Peacock not that? It is. They said it was not on any of the other airings, just the original. At the end of the movie, we see, you know, the other egg. Sorry, Jason. We see the other egg, and it cuts right to credits. Get me my EpiPen.

It cuts right to credits. But in the original theatrical movie, you see the other egg, it cracks open, and then a title card comes up that says, Michael Moriarty's character did sue the city and got a million dollar tax free. This is the kind of thing that I would believe if, I would believe if you told me actually

the writing and directing names are fake. Michael Murray already made this whole movie. Including all the miniatures of Cue the Winged Serpent. All right, well, can I, I was gonna say this for the end, but I'll just say it to you now. So the director of this movie, he's known for films like Maniac Cop. He's done a lot

of like schlocky movies, started off doing like blackploitation movies and kind of moved into cop movies. He was fired off of a very big budget film. And he was like, fuck it, I already have this hotel room for a couple more days, wrote the script in seven days and kept the cast from the other movie and just pushed them into this. Wow. And whoever could do it did it and that was it. And they called in all of it, like, well, maybe I should say this.

I don't know if it's the same cast. He just basically wrote the movie in seven days. He's like, I've already been location scouting, let's go. And then shot the movie. Well, that makes sense. That actually now helps me understand what the fuck this was. Yeah.

This was a cocaine nightmare. There is a point, I just want to point out one crowd scene. I don't know if anyone else saw this, but I can't remember if it's when Q is sort of falling off the building or if it's when, you know, people are bleeding on people. But there's one crowd scene where it's like,

oh, New York City streets mayhem. Like people don't know where to go and don't know where to hide. And there's one man who simply is in the middle of the street. It's almost like seeing a carpet rolled up. He just rolls. He just, nothing is happening to him.

There's no danger nearby. Just... He just rolled across the street. I was crying laughing. So it did feel like it did... There are certain moments in this film where it's just like everybody's on drugs. Like, just everybody. What are certain moments in this film where it's just like, everybody's on drugs. Like, everybody.

What they're trying to tell us, what they're trying, what the movie's trying to tell me is a normal thing, is for like four hot bodied young people to be on the rooftop pool of a high rise in midtown Manhattan, so that one of the women can do 60 pushups. Okay, oh my, I cannot believe we haven't push-ups while everybody else just watches. Okay, watch this.

And the guy's like, so wait, you just called me over here to watch this? Okay. And they're just like, 56, 57. What the? And they're like, yeah, like normal New Yorkers, hey. Just a regular Wednesday. So I had so many questions about that scene,

and again, I'll so many questions about that scene. And again, I'll never stop thinking about it. Because I do think the movie, it's located at a time where women are. The opening scene, that woman is not a secretary. She is some sort of high powered CEO in running her own business in that moment. And then, so I clocked that based on when the movie's made

and then that scene on the rooftop, I really am trying to contextualize and frame in terms of just like, what's happening with women? Yeah, he thought he was coming over to fuck three women. Okay, but she did call him. She did call him. And said, get over here.

Get over here and watch me work out. And then he was like, and then she did 60 pushups, kept going and he was like, ah, is this why you called me over here? This is so much bullshit. And he was like, fine, I'll just get in the pool. Cue the winged serpent, grabs him, takes him and chucks him off the wing.

Now here's the thing about this winged serpent, grabs him, takes him, and chucks him off the wing. Boom! Now here's the thing about this winged serpent. Normally in movies like this, you see people behaving badly and they're the ones who get killed. So the first guy, he's a flirt, but he's not that bad. Oh no, he's a creep. He's not a flirt. What are you talking about?

He's a flirt? This is a predator. Hey, hey, lady. Hey, lady. Hey, lady. No, so yes, okay, you're right. He's hanging outside her window. Well, that's his job. He's like a... To be fair, that is his job.

He has nothing to clean there. Didn't she say that he'd done it three days in a row? Like, the window is clean, my guy. That's what people say about the Empire State Building, the cleanest windows in New York. So, all right, first person creep. Second person, just a woman sunbathing with things over her eyes.

She can't see the winged serpent, yet screams as if she looks right in his face. All right, so she's innocent. She's topless too. Well no, she's not innocent because she has her boobs out. Yes, she has the sin of titties. All right, all right.

She has the sin of titties. Yes, in the world of this movie, she needs to be punished. Okay, all right, all right. Well then, well then let's, well now my theory is falling apart, but then let's go to- Oh, but you know who doesn't die? The creep on the rooftop adjacent...

That's what I'm talking about. ...who seems to be the creep who you think is looking... He's looking at her through a telescope, except it's not. It's like a surveyor's equipment. He's looking at her through a sextant, I think. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure it's a sextant. It's what, uh...

It's so funny. Like so much really is... Adam Driver's character uses a megalopolis. So much is happening on the rooftops. It's like where all the singles go. Oh my God. It's a whole other New York. But this is one of them I say, so, all right, so, okay. Some day there she gets killed.

Construction worker. He seems like they're abusing him. Cause at first he's like, hey, where'd my sandwich go? Hey, you guys steal my sandwich? And you think, oh, Q the winged serpent stole a sandwich. Oh yeah.

Yeah, that was a big mystery. And then it's revealed, no, those guys actually did steal a sandwich. Oh yeah, and the one guy's like, his wife does make a good sandwich. I might have to pay her a visit soon and tell her so, because I'm a fucking rapist. What?

I didn't know what that meant. Why would he say that? Those guys live, but this poor, hungry man who's just trying to do a job and married to a beautiful woman who makes a great sound. I truly did not understand. Again, this whole experience of watching this movie, I was like, I don't get people.

Yeah, I don't get people. Yeah, I don't get people. The wrong people win all the time? Well, I mean, and then you have... Why were they taking his sandwich? You seemed like a nice guy. They'd seen that they were friends. And then you have the best death in the entire film. This is my favorite one, which is our other cop.

We haven't really mentioned him that much, but Richard Roundtree, who's up on a roof looking for someone with his partner, a mime. Okay, okay. This, okay. This was nuts. So before you play this, Paul, I just want to talk about that mime first. I had to stop the movie. I had to stop the movie and really make sure what I was seeing was correct, which is that the NYPD has placed an undercover cop out in the streets in front of the museum to see the comings and goings

and that they have disguised him. His cover is a mime. A mime in an Amadeus shirt, not the movie, but the Broadway production. is a mime. A mime in an Amadeus shirt. Not the movie, but the Broadway production. So this mime is also bucking conventional trends by not, by wearing like a pattern shirt.

Like he's not wearing a traditional mime shirt. Well, there's also when they're, when they're done and they're like, oh, we got, oh, we got it. We got to go to the next location. They all bundle into the car and he says to them, how did I do? OK, I heard that. I can't. all bundle into the car and he says to them, how did I do? Okay, I heard that.

I can't- Oh no, no, someone says to him, how did you do money wise? And he says, well, not that good. Yeah, that's right. Like it's up for grabs whether he was a good mime or not. Well, and it made me wonder, again, another movie in this movie that I'd like to watch,

which is like, do all the undercover cops have to list their talents or interests? Special skills. Special skills. Can you guys just, I'm gonna ask you a question because I think I know the answer, but I wanna see if I'm right. What was he doing?

As a mime? Yeah, what was he watching for? He was, I thought he was watching for, for- The two people who were gonna perform the ceremony. How would you ever find those two people? That's like saying, I saw two people in New York City, that must be them. Like, there's no... They have no clue about this man.

For most of the movie, no one has seen Cue the Winged Serpent. For most of the movie, no one has seen Cue the Winged Serpent. For most of the movie, only an hour and 10 minutes in does the police chief say 70 people have seen the Winged Serpent. Only just now have we gotten reports in that people have seen the Winged Serpent. But no one has ever seen this man. So you're just saying, hey, you hang out in front of the museum and wait to see two men talking. Chances are, it's them. It's so wild.

So this is my favorite scene. So Richard Roundtree looking around. Oh, the mime. Mime with a gun. Who is still moving like a mime? Or maybe it's impossible to stop moving like a mime or maybe it's impossible to stop moving like a mime when you are dressed like a mime, I don't know. By the way, look at the smog. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha. Pfft. Shut up! Oh my god. June? June or Pops? June just got- June? June, are you okay? June just got jump scared by the movie she's already seen.

June! And this is why... This is why I... What is... I can walk in and out of a room in our house and June will have the same jump scare. I'm really on edge these days. I'm really on edge. I'm gonna say this has nothing to do with anything this is. I forgot it was a kite, wasn't it? It was a kite.

Holy shit, that's funny. By the way, I want people to understand. So in the movie, Richard Rountree is on the rooftop and there's a tense moment. We think Q the winged serpent might arrive, and instead a kite flies into his head. When the kite flew into his head, June hit the deck. As if the kite had hit her head.

It really was... It was a sympathetic reaction. I jumped on your head. June, you grabbed your own head. Something is happening. June, grab your own head. Like, I need to... There must be more. There must be more kites coming.

There's, like, all of a sudden, this show became a 3-D show where, like, then the kites will hit you in the audience as well. I'm so embarrassed. That's actually... This is very vulnerable. It just happened. I really just showed myself. I showed my whole ass. That's how good this movie is.

Oh, my gosh. And that's why I can't stop scaring her. And in our wedding vows, I had to promise her I would never put her on Scare Tactics. All right, so. Thank you. All right, here we go. The mime, the mime sees the winged serpent

and does not at first say anything like a mime. Oh yeah. Oh no, he's, and his reactions are gigantic. His facial reactions are gigantic and they're smiling, laughing, he's excited, but he does, I will say what I thought was very smart was the only reason the winged serpent doesn't get him is because he is in a box.

Oh, that's smart. He is in a protective box. See ya! Now the winged serpent there seems to just... Drop him. Drop him. There are times, there are a couple times in the movie, like yes he does pick up... Look at that winged serpent by the way. Oh, in all of its glory. Oh.

I really don't like seeing that big muscle over there. It looks like, I'll be honest, a thin dick. I was gonna say, it looks like, it looks like someone, the winged serpent looks like someone who ate a Tootsie Roll and then tried to make it like a dick. And it's like, but it's, it's like, I wish you were a little bit more talented. may have been able to do it's so upsetting neck is way too

long I there's so much to get into here I want to go to the crowd before it gets too late here like so if you have a question if you have a question about this if you know anything about history if you know anything about working on top of tall buildings do they give you any protection from quetzalcoatls? Let us know. All right, yes, okay, hi, how are you? What's your name? Alex.

Alex, okay, Alex, what's your question? So, first of all, I'd like to say that I was born two months before the first episode. Wow. Of this show? Alex, have I ever talked to you before? No, okay. What the fuck? 14 years, 14 years.

14 years? Get fucked, are you serious? Unfortunately. God damn it. Amazing, amazing. Okay, you might be the youngest person we've ever had here. I mean, the youngest person, well, I don't know what it is.

It's something, it's good, and I'm not gonna take it away from you. All right, so in the first construction scene, the construction worker says to the other guys, I'm going to shove the thermos up your asses one at a time. Oh, yeah. I remember this. Does that mean he's going to shove the thermos up their ass? Take it out.

Go to the next guy in line. Get him to bend over and shove it up his ass. You guys don't move. Alec, I don't like that we're having this conversation. I wish we weren't having this conversation, but we are. And you know what? And we're in agreement. Jason and a 14-year-old are talking about how to shove thermoses up construction workers'

asses. I'm so sorry. I'm just distracted. I'm just so sorry, the FBI is here? What's that? Yes, okay, your name? Tim. Tim, hey, how are you doing, Tim? Hi, Tim.

What's your question? So, a bunch of people in this movie have access to secret information until the end. David Carradine says, when those guys were trying to get to your apartment, you didn't even use your gun. And his girlfriend's saying, you killed those two guys. The cops are saying, you killed those guys were trying to get to your apartment, you didn't even use your gun. And his girlfriend's saying, you killed those two guys. The cops are saying you killed those guys on purpose. And then the crooks say the diamond company told the insurance company that a guy left with a bag and it was worth $77,000.

Right. And then also the reason why they arrest Michael Moriarty is because those two gangsters went to the cops and said, hey, by the way, go to this, like this, like they they ratted him out. He got them killed by Q. Right. So before they went to go kill him, they're like, well, they like a lot of maneuvering around. So everyone knows everything until this scene. And David Carradine says, well, I mean, you know, I just kind of figured that the Kitzekadl Sacrificer would locate you and get you to confess all of your sins for forgiveness. So and then he goes, canvas every flea bag motel in the city for hours,

which is the thing every flea bag, every flea bag motel we we've guys check every room of every hotel should take about 35 minutes and we'll figure it out. By the way, I thought the whole thing with the sacrifice was that it had to be, like you had to consent to it. Well, that's what he won't say the prayer. Yeah. Right. I think you're right.

But even if you force someone to say the prayer, But David Carradine doesn't know that. No, I know David Carradine doesn't know that. I'm just saying in the world of the movie, would that even work for the winged creature? Well, I mean, here's the other thing. It's a serpent, not a creature, June. But that's the other thing.

But here's my genuine question. They keep on saying that these sacrifices will bring Q, the winged serpent, to life. He's to life. Oh, yeah. He's risen. That's what I don't understand. Here's my thought. Here's my I don't... He is risen. He is risen.

Here's my thought. Here's my thought. I think it makes eggs. Hang on. Wait. Hear me out. Oh, so you're saying the eggs have an origin? Every sacrifice creates an egg.

How do you know that? I love this. I love this as an idea. Right? So we know that there are at least three sacrifices, which would be three. We have the dino and the two eggs. I only saw one egg.

Well, the end, the final. Oh, that final egg. Oh, by the way, great little fact about that. They couldn't put the egg in the Chrysler building because it was too narrow in the top. So they put it in a regular building and then they forgot to take it away and then all these scientists found this nest and they're like oh my god we found this crazy nest. Wait is this real? This is real. What? No. Paul. How long after do you know? Like years after the movie was made. That's great.

Because they they did it in like an abandoned police precinct and they're like whoa look at this nest it's gigantic what could it have possibly have been and it was in the papers that they've that all these uh like ornithologists and uh and scientists were go studying this nest. All right yeah what's your name what's your question? Go studying this nest. All right, yeah, what's your name, what's your question? David, so the robbery takes place at Neil Diamonds and it's a flying creature. Is this just a sequel to Jonathan Living Siegel?

That is going to be- Is it really called Neil Diamonds? Yes it is. That's fucking great. I love it. That's hilarious. Incredible. I was gonna say it's a sequel to the jazz singer.

All right, so, cause we got him playing jazz, we got Neil Diamond, there it is. All right, yes, yes, hi. My name's Nikita. So I saw that one of the people that designed Q went on to design on aliens. Do you think having this on his CV is like what got him that job?

Like they were so impressed with his work. They're like, wow, that doesn't look, it does look otherworldly. No creature we've ever seen. Yes, when I look at Q the Winged Serpent, I'm like, oh, that's a face hugger. You know, this movie was actually kind of successful. As a matter of fact, the movie that this guy was fired off

of that then he decided to write this script in six days, it outgrossed that movie. So this movie was a hit. This movie days, it outgrossed that movie. So this movie was a hit. This movie was a hit and it's a scary movie and we learned a lot. I do want, I know I just wanna like, just get a moment of Michael Moriarty's acting

just for the hell of it. And if you want to take a moment, close your eyes and think, is this Bill Burr? I think there's a lot of good in you somewhere. Yeah, where? I'm looking. I'm looking. I get all this evil dream, you know, evil dream, go away. I walk upside up top of this building and I see dead things and a nest, you know? A rat's nest.

No, well, no, it couldn't have been a rat's nest. It was bigger than that. It was, uh, it was big and there was something in it. It looked like an egg, but it couldn't have been an egg. There aren't any eggs on the, no egg that big. Jesus. And then there's a hole in the roof so it can get in and get out.

So it can get in and out. Yeah. I just want to sleep. There you go. There you go. All right. Obviously. Are we supposed to be rooting for them?

I don't know. I don't know. Are we supposed to be rooting for them? That's what I don't know. I don't know. Are we supposed to be like, I hope these kids work it out? I kind of believe she went back to him at the end. That was very, it was very distressing. I would love to know who has those diamonds. Me! Yeah.

Like, wouldn't it have been great if there was a post-credit scene where there was like like, a quick scene about who picked up those diamonds and what they did with 70-some-odd thousand dollars worth of diamonds? Or if, like, in one shot, the winged creature's just, like, wearing chains. I love it. I love it. Is that the Met Gala? Yeah.

What are you wearing? Just something from Neil Diamond's. What's the story of what you're wearing, Q, the winged serpent? I found it under a truck. All right, so obviously we had opinions about this, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

Hi. Whoo! My name is Adaisé. I know Jimmy's just a driver, he won't carry a gun, and he sings random jazz songs. But I heard that there's an Aztec monster who's flying around the towers and chomping all the people. This film's a fever dream with David Carradine and Shaft is also there but he's killed pointlessly. Yes there's an ancient beast that only gets two scenes. I want to love

this film but it just makes me scream. Oh what have you done? You're a winged serpent Killing all in random Oh, Q Oh, you're just having fun And now so am I So I'm giving it five stars It's called winged serpent Hard to follow story

It's a winged serpent Getting kinda gory It's a winged serpent Getting kinda gory, it's a winged serpent At least it had some boobies, it's a winged serpent Wow, wow, wow! Yes! Great job! 488 total reviews. All of them five stars? 73% five stars. And I'm going to do one that's a little bit different than normal, but I'll redo this

first one from Darcy Drinkwine. In 2013, Darcy Drinkwine writes, all in caps, by the way, I've always liked preacher movies. Ever since I was little, they are my number one favorite right next to stalker movies and movies in the woods. Oh, P.S., I live in Johnstown, Vermont, 05-656.

No, don't say this. And I had cable in the USA Network, and that's where I saw this for the first time when I was only 11 years old, and I fell in love with the USA Saturday Night Nightmares every Saturday night at 8 p.m. Five stars. So, wow.

So most of the review was in the P.S. Yeah, the P... The fact that she... The P.S. had most of the review was in the PS Yeah, the the fact that she has had most of it Belle in 2021 titles her Disney princess. I think so Scary and terrific plot as her title may also all in caps Main character is dishonest but courageous. If you love creepy monsters, this movie's for you.

Five stars. Now. Like, do you think they're saying that Michael Moriarty is courageous, or Cue the Winged Serpent? Who's the main character? It's a hard one to say. I would say that it's, I think that

you don't leave thinking Michael Moriarty is courageous Well, I do think he's supposed to be the protagonist of the movie, but he should have been killed That's crazy. Absolutely. A hundred percent. He should have met a grisly end I am gonna read this review which is a little longer than normal because I can't make heads or tails of it All right. Do you want to do it in a spotlight? No, I don't think we have that. Okay, then don't. AG writes in 2015, the title of the review is

the most life-affirming monster movie ever made. The most life-affirming monster movie ever made. Cohen understands his characters as people, not cannon fodder. And so his focus is on their amusingly mundane foibles which evoke a sense of actual life that renders irrelevant the B-movie special effects an impossibility of the premise. So wonderfully funny and deceptively complex analysis of crisis as the catalyst to a deeper engagement with community. The city pulses with selfishness, but Jimmy's eventual rebirth as a decent person is a representative—

It never happens. His rebirth as a decent person is representative of our better instincts prevailing when matters of life and death jar us from abstraction. Cohen! Stuffs! Ha ha ha! The film full of unpretentious tossed-off human details that read as both specifically New York and totally universal. The cop furtively sipping a Budweiser before resuming his crisis post. The amiable pervert cheering as the girl takes off her top. The waitress shifting from smile to irritation the second the customer isn't looking.

It reminds us we're watching human beings. However stylized in their story is of us all who toil anonymously until fate intervenes to test our metal, showing us a 9-11 aftermath mentality a decade before 9-11. Two decades as a matter of fact. Cohen reminds us that even in our worst circumstances, yes, even in a movie, we can tap into our reservoir of goodwill without losing the idiosyncrasies that make us uniquely prickly humans. Five stars.

Wow. That is a real, like, Mike, you're... Five stars. Wow. That is a real like, Mike, I read your honors thesis and we're not gonna pass you. I read your honors thesis about Q the winged serpent and you're gonna have to, we're gonna fail you. I'm gonna do a rare third opinion because this is great. This is from Siskel and Ebert when they reviewed the film. And it's a worthy discussion. Why am I laughing at Crunch-Trench?

I didn't recommend this movie, but it's far from being the worst flying lizard movie I've ever seen. In fact, there are a lot of moments in Q that I kind of enjoyed, especially when the people are sunbathing on a rooftop and the lizard suddenly swoops down and grabs him. It serves you right for sunbathing in Manhattan. But you have to admit it's a rather elementary level of entertainment in a movie. Q is a goofy movie, maybe even makes a mistake by trying for good performances from Michael Moriarty and other good actors like David Carradine.

So I voted thumbs down on Q because I thought the movie was too ambitious for its own good. If it's going to be trash, it has to be willing to be great trash instead of having pretensions. Well, I don't think there was anything pretentious about Michael Moriarty. What is pretentious, if you will, about the dialogue? Eat him! Eat him! I would love to be on the set! You're not being fair because you're forgetting some of the other scenes where we get kind of the method acting introspection and he's thinking about why he's a loser and so forth.

I thought there was a lot of fun and joy in his performance. I think it's one of the unexpected good performances. I think it makes this just from being trash to good trash. Really do. Well, don't you think though that sometimes a movie like this actually needs to have scenes in it that we can laugh at in terms of its awkwardness? Because isn't there a strange juxtaposition between a good performance and really weird kind of special effects like that.

Then let's put it this way. You saw a performance that was surprising to you and you thought it hurt the movie. I saw a movie that was surprisingly good and I thought it elevated it and made it well. There's a surprise there nonetheless. Wow. Is that us? Is that what we're doing? Like currently? I just love that they were able to get into Michael. He's like, yeah, Michael Moriarty sucks. Like I think Michael Moriarty is a met like it's like a really disagree. I don't remember them. Why are they sitting so close to each other like that?

Oh, and they appear to be getting closer and closer as it goes. The next cut Cisco is on Ebert's lap. Ebert, a little pervy like I like the topless lady in the movie. Oh, my God. Serves you right for sunbathing in Manhattan. Did this this came out the same year as E.T. as I mentioned, Razor to Los Ark and Rocky three. It's also came out the same year as ET, as I mentioned, Razor to the Lost Ark and Rocky 3. It also came out the same year as Megaforce, Halloween 3, Grease 2, and yes,

Giorgio. When first announced, they said Q would star James Coburn and Yaffa Cotto. Then they fell out. Then for the young, for the part of Michael Moriarty, Eddie Murphy was the director's choice, but the investors didn't think an unknown would do well overseas. So not Eddie Murphy. Then, it went to a young actor named Bruce Willis

to play the David Carradine part. So this could have been, David, this could have been Bruce Willis and Eddie Murphy in Cue the Winged Serpent. And we would still be covering it on this show. But yeah, they both, but basically Bruce Willis and Eddie Murphy were not well known overseas.

So they cut them out. And that's how it became David Carradine and Richard Rtree, which are people that he worked with in the past as a matter of fact They Larry Cohen and David Carradine served in the army together Wow, yeah, so That's I mean, it's they were old friends. They were part of the army transportation He was supposed to play the Richard Roundtree part. No Eddie Murphy was supposed to play the Michael Moriarty part. Okay.

So Richard Roundtree, unknown. I guess it was originally James Coburn and Yaffa Cotto. They dropped out. Then it went to Bruce Willis. And then it went to David Carradine. Michael Moriarty, it was originally just supposed to be Eddie Murphy. I believe wholeheartedly that anybody else could have landed I'm gonna go take my birth control pill. I think anybody could have landed that plane successfully.

Carradine struggled. Would you recommend this film? Fuck yeah. Yeah. This is one of those rare, great... This was fun. I wish they could all, like I said at the beginning, I wish they could all be this good.

This was a delight. True delight. Never once did I press the button to pause to look at how much longer is left. I was soaking it in. It really just gets you and keeps on going. I highly recommend everybody watch Q the Winged. You all agree?

Yeah. Okay, there it is. Any final thoughts? I guess my only thought to close with is, like, there are roughly 15 other movies within this movie that I'd also like to see. Yes. I would love to see the Cue the Winged Serpent universe.

Yes. All I want to see is this scene, which is the maid showing up at the Fleabag Motel to find a man shot so many times. Well, I did feel like that was another improvised line that we saw when he said, like, this guy just won't die, or whatever. It feels like all of this is,

this guy does not die easily, is what it is. Yeah, but like, NYPD, you don't want to collect any evidence, you don't want to take that guy's wallet, see who he is. Oh, yeah. NYPD, you don't want to collect any evidence, you don't want to take that guy's wallet, see who he is. You don't call it in and be like, great, get crime scene investigations over here. That's why when the movie ends with one of the eggs cracking and another winged serpent arriving, I'm like, well, yeah, they didn't do any follow up. Do you think that that baby is R, the winged serpent?

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