How Did This Get Made? - Sleepover LIVE! (w/ Nick Kroll)

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

HDTGM all-star Nick Kroll joins Paul, Jason, & June discuss the 2004 tween sex comedy Sleepover, a movie that made Jason feel extremely uncomfortable. Recorded LIVE on June 15th, 2023 from Largo in L...os Angeles, they discuss Steve Carell playing a Paul Blart type cop, the teacher's inappropriate blind date, and the meaning of the phrase "ribbons and lampshades." Plus, Paul pokes holes in the film using an elaborate Sleepover Timeline he created all by himself. HDTGM is going on tour in August! Buy tix at hdtgm.comFollow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Don't be rank or get the skis because tonight is gonna be plush. We saw the sweepover so you know what that means. So I'm gonna be a boy baby, he is yellow My clothes flowed as clothed women just in the Kelly I'm gonna see a hard-ass show with it all And take a pose with me to hit the hoops Control your jade, get me going The pose to join the club And take you from the pool By the way, the two row Bring it in, a shrink body
Starting point is 00:00:36 Halt your overall sting Just to suck a bunch of odd life At the Olympics, we're in shock Shitty front, tell me how you stand And lie, they call me when you're bad ass And he's on the line Breaking a statement is because they cool his eyes Cause they're bad jiffon, he lookin' kind of nice
Starting point is 00:00:51 All the shit is in the middle, we'll chase him, he's getting late Duelists make the show out of monkey shots in the plane They're just a bunch of movies, want me making the grade There's a real question on the out of this kid, man Hello people, hello of all, thank you. We are live at Largo, our Los Angeles home, to talk about a movie that I didn't really know existed until just a mere few hours ago. The film is called Sleepover. It's in the
Starting point is 00:01:28 early 2000s and it is about a bunch of girls who are getting out of middle school, getting to go to high school, and it's kind of like Ferrispillars Day off, and it's kind of not. And frankly, I don't know anyone's names and I'm confused by a lot of the big things that happen in this show. Normally I would try to break it down for you and as I started to, I'm just like, no, I give up. And I'll save that for my co-host. So please welcome to the stage,
Starting point is 00:02:05 my co-host, Mr. Jason Mann, Zookas. What's up, Drugs? Here we go. I'm thrilled to be here, Paul, to be talking about a movie that I suspect I'm on a watchlist for having watched. What is this movie? I'm sorry, is this a Team Sex Comedy set in junior high school? This movie checks a lot of boxes.
Starting point is 00:02:47 And I don't think we can say checks a lot of boxes. This was chilling. The number of times I wrote in this movie, and I know, am I allowed to be watching this? I closed the curtains in my house. It is. It'll get after noon to be like, I hold nobody sees that I'm watching a kid porno. This is a movie about grooming.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Listen, it's also, it's also, is this movie for kids or predators? It's also a movie about finding yourself and getting your own voice. Finding yourself on a date with your teacher from junior high. Junior high. We are gonna break it all down.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Don't worry about it. As the tagline says, the rules are set and the game is on. I found myself disturbed so many times in this movie, and one of the biggest regrets I had was that I didn't get to watch it with my other co-hosts. Please welcome to this stage, Miss June Diane Rayfield. Welcome, June. Welcome, June. Now, Paul, I got to tell you, yes, this movie, there were so many concerning things about this movie. Were there?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yes. But, if you don't think I cried. Okay, when? June? When? June. You don't think I cried. June, I am with you. Okay. Not only did I cry, my notes are, why am I crying? Why am I crying?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Watching these children be prey to porn. I lost it. I was... I'll tell you when I felt like the biggest dagger into my heart was when that teacher said, hey, I may not be good-looking, but I got a good wit. Oh, you mean when he was trying to seduce a 14-year-old? He didn't know.
Starting point is 00:05:10 He didn't know he was a dude. Because he was wearing sunglasses. You're a bad teacher. You should be able to recognize your students in sunglasses. What? Well, look, we have a lot to... Come on, Johnny Johnny Sneed. We got a lot to break down.
Starting point is 00:05:29 A lot to break down. And we have a very special guest. I love when we have this guest, because this guest truly is a historic guest, because he is the first guest we ever had here on the program. Audible guests. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Co-creator, star of shows like The Croles Show. on the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture.
Starting point is 00:05:52 On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture.
Starting point is 00:06:00 On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. On the pro-culture. CROAT! Welcome Nick welcome back Wow, so we made you watch this movie I Was so excited I've I've done the show I think I'm on maybe the first episode of this show. You are in the first episode. I feel like Burlesque.
Starting point is 00:06:25 That's great. And I've been on the show throughout, always excited. Got the JPEG for this one. I want to say you, and I was like, here we go. I was saying we were at dinner last night, and you said, what is this movie watch? By the way, is the font for this movie the same font as Clueless it is?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yes, yes, yes. And is that how it's trying to trick you into thinking it's a different movie? Yes. Constantly. It's also at one point they're driving through time in the movie plane at the movie theater is legally blonde, which is another movie I think this movie wants to be.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Oh, this movie wants to be a lot of movies. And what it is is disturbing. And it's a weird movie because there's so many things. I'm just looking at my notes and they're fucking nuts. I have a whole thing that I want to pull out. Well, not pull out. I. Paul. Paul, these children are 14 years old. that I want to pull out, well, not pull out. I... Paul!
Starting point is 00:07:25 Paul, these children are 14 years old. Paul, this is a junior high. This is a graduating junior high. I agree. Like, I don't want, I don't want to take this position right now with Nick, but I have to. Like, they are heading into ninth grade. But I want you. They're not fair yet. I know they're not, but I have to. Like, they are heading into ninth grade, and I want you.
Starting point is 00:07:45 They're not there yet. I know they're not, but I want you to accept. It's too much an incert. It wants you to accept these blooming young women. Oh, I'm blooming. Can I get a walk on my door? Yeah. I wrote down blooming question mark.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I want to just go out on a limb and say this. I can't tell you How any of these women are different from each other at all? They don't seem like they really have these girls. We have to say girls because they are 13 I feel too awkward. I go too. They're young women. They're young women comedy starring twins All right, so I can't win. They're young women. That's the biggest problem with this movie. I can't tell who is what age, who is who. I worry about this movie more than a hard sci-fi.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And I have to tell you, Paul, you really, because so when I saw Paul watching on 2B, I walked by his office and I said, what do you think? Because I was a little bit ahead and he goes, I can't tell who any of them are. They all look alike. They're all gone. They don't.
Starting point is 00:08:50 They don't all look alike. They don't. And I found it very disturbing that you couldn't tell one from the other. You're telling me now. I'm not saying they're all fully fleshed out characters. Of course, they're not. But they are different.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And I didn't struggle. Here's what I, yeah. And that I would credit with the hair department. And wardrobe. Wardrobe. Hair wardrobe. Because you've got, and I do want to just talk about her hair. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:18 A lot. Sure. Because there's a lot of love in the hair. The lead's hair. There's a lot of looks today. Julie Corkey? Julie Corkey. I mean, Julie Corkey.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Can we just, she's Corkey. She's Julie. She's Corkey. Let's. She's got Jane Lynch as a mom and Jeff Garland is a dad. Imagine that fucks-ish. Oh! It looks like the number 10. Oh!
Starting point is 00:09:52 Not to listen, not to jump to the very end, but just to talk to her hair. Major spoiler alert. To talk to her hairdresser, because this happens a lot in movies with women, which is their hair is going to tell us the story. And we're going to look to their hair to understand who they are in the world and how relaxed they are, how uptight they are, their hair will tell us that. And she goes to sleep the night of the sleepover, we're wake, curly hair. And she wakes up the next morning,
Starting point is 00:10:31 and sleep has straightened it out. She's gotten... She's gotten a sleep blowout. And she is now a woman. She gets my body. And at the end of the movie, as if she's gone through some right of passage, she is dressed and styled differently,
Starting point is 00:10:50 like she's now a woman with his bizarre. The movie is very uncomfortable. I'm gonna say something though. And I, of of course there's so many insane things and this movie is fat phobic and it's horrible and for so many reasons but but there are moments in this movie that I really related to and the I just to talk about the scene between Jane Lynch and and our lead because there were moments when this our lead character Julie quirky, of course, reminded me of a younger Jennifer Craig quirky, quirky, quirky, quirky. She's quirky, but her name
Starting point is 00:11:34 is quirky, quirky, quirky, there were there were moments when her mom said you're on the bridge, yeah, between ladybugs and boys and gave her a lock to both Give her a chance to sort of separate but to also be Three and to be close on the bridge, which is lovely. Oh, that's lovely and and but then Jane Lynch says, what does she say? Well, Jane Lynch is in that scene where she's giving her the wife. I feel like you were into magic and this girl and now maybe boys and this and that and and Julie kindly says, I think I'm still on the bridge because Jane Lynch, I think is suggesting she's already gotten to. I may be missed. I truly have never seen that moment in a movie or TV represented She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring.
Starting point is 00:12:25 She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring.
Starting point is 00:12:33 She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring.
Starting point is 00:12:41 She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring. She's over the ring., Blake. This is the art so where I cried. So I am very, what, I just cried. Why am I crying at this ending question Mark? I cried a lot. I cried when the best friends, when they have their last conversation.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I'm really proud. I'm really proud of that. When the best friend says you're ready for high school. Yeah. She says that's because of you. I know. I got a little choked up. And then they say, don't forget.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But why? Oh, wait, this is what I don't understand, too. It is the last day of junior high, and that friend is moving. The next day. Well, not based on her schedule. The job in Seattle starts in two weeks. They pushed it back so she could finish her fucking year. Dad's got to go work at Boeing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah, by the way, they drop, they truly do drop so much info at the beginning of this movie where I'm like, I rewound it and be like, because the girl that seems to be... This is why you're remondent? Okay, so the friend that seems to be older who's in the car with the boyfriend. Stacy. Stacy. Stacy. A blowout. Almost like a, sorry. She's almost like a Heather Thomas kind of. Yeah, she's like a very 70s hairstyle.
Starting point is 00:13:54 She was giving me real like bitchy Rory Gilmurva. Yes, absolutely. So much so that for the first second, I was like, wait, is that Alexis Bladell? And I was like, it's not. But, spoiler alert, it is Brelarsin in this movie. And I- And I-
Starting point is 00:14:12 And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I-
Starting point is 00:14:20 And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- And I- movie normally the first four minutes is just like just feeling the water out. I just see what's going on, but they're dropping major plot points that I am not capable of digesting because I don't even know the characters yet. Well, you're the same age. Okay, but you look like you're way older.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And then I had to remind myself, wait, they're stealing a car, but they're in junior hot. They're not even close to a license. Also a rightdriving smart car. Yeah. I was like, what is this? There is a dance that is happening simultaneously to the cool girls having a fun party that's written like a serial killer's font.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yes. Like, they think somebody was carving out of Cosmo magazines. I've got your children. They're all at this sleepover tonight. It was also odd that whatever dance the high school is having is not the problem. No, it's the last day of school dance. You were cool, fans?
Starting point is 00:15:17 You would think it was because of time of year, because of everything. Because there was a king and queen. Yeah. But it is not. But yet, it's not their dance, because they're junior high. So you got their high school dance. You got a high school dance.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You got a cool girls party, and you got the nerd's sleepover. And then you also got the dudes, the SpongeBob, and that crew. And I think they're also having a scapiter hunt as well. Then you've got Steve the Hunk, who is not just the archetype of, but the almost literal physical
Starting point is 00:15:57 representation of Jake Ryan from 16th candle. Looks exactly like him. 16th candle, yeah, 16th candle. I was like, put this is a little on the nose. They are, this is great though. Jake Ryan, full blow. Here's what I couldn't understand. Why did I have to say I loved the storyline of like Stacey had, I wish they developed it a bit more, but Stacey had been a friend of Julie's at one point and then for whatever reason. Not a moment, she shows not a moment of recognition of that friendship. I know, but here's what I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I love the storyline of like Stacey had, I wish they developed it a bit more, but Stacey had been a friend of Julie's at one point. And then for whatever reason, she's not a moment. She shows not a moment of recognition of that friendship. I know. But here's my question about Stacy, because we get to know a little bit about her and I think why she decides to reroute the night. But why would she ever risk? Because the stakes of this movie are
Starting point is 00:16:41 that when they head into their freshman year and head into high school, it's really important that the sort of class dynamics are clear at lunchtime and if they're sitting by the fountain, it means they're cool kids and if they're sitting by the dumpster, it means they're not. Yeah, dumpster kids. But you're dumpster kids. And I would say, this is generationally impactful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 By the way, I want to say, I just want to just point out one quick thing. Again, we're seeing the theme of dumpster in high school with that movie, Wish Upon. Remember, there is like the dad was jumping in. Did we do it? What? Did we do it? Yeah, the Wish Upon the Girl with the Box, Joey King with the Box. How do you remember these movies?
Starting point is 00:17:21 And the dad was jumping, the dad was jumping into, Ryan Phillips. Ryan Phillips was jumping into dumpsters in was jumping into... Ryan Phillips, Ryan Phillips, yeah. Ryan Phillips, he was jumping into dumpsters in front of his kids while they were eating lunch and they're taking a nap. Oh, yeah. So, like, I didn't understand the dumpsters play such a large part in the high school lunchroom. What about absolutely mediocre fountains?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah. As is the coveted spot, which we all know, incoming freshman control. Oh, yeah. Right. That fucking fountain. What a piece. That's what I kept on going to fountain.
Starting point is 00:17:51 What a garbage fountain. That's what I kept on wanting to say was, why do you all think you get to choose this spot? Yeah, it's going to be decided for you. The victory at the end is preposterous. Like, by the way, the lesson learned should have been the fountain is within. Wherever we are, wherever we are is where we should be.
Starting point is 00:18:14 They'd already invested $150 to build that piece of shit fuckin' fountain. But I will say one of the most laugh-out-loud moments was the last scene where the guy pours trash in the dumpster on Stacey. She gets up and runs away. Okay, but here's my question, if you're Stacey. The cool kid. You're Stacey the cool kid. And this is what I wonder, I like to propose, because I kept wondering why would Stacey
Starting point is 00:18:40 risk her spot at the fountain? Why is she engaging in this gap? Because she's so off balance from having the negative experience with what's the gap? What's the gap? What's the JV quarterback? Yes, what's his name? Can somebody out here tell me what it is? Todd.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Todd. Todd. Todd, it, Todd? Yeah. Todd. I'm saying Todd and you guys are still yelling no it is Todd So you're saying it like I'm saying like you're saying like someone from Massachusetts Todd oh my god
Starting point is 00:19:14 Todd is fucking Oh my god Todd tried to finger me in his Todd driving Todd driving a He's been giving me in his cat. Tides driving a convertible and openly sexually assaulting 14 years old. Oh, that's not it. In a public park that is fully lit. OK, he's driving on the glass.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's like the town is like Star's Hollow. The only police presence is Steve Carell. Yeah. Yeah. You know what, that made me feel like. The only police presence is Steve Carell. Yeah. You know what that made me feel like, and I don't know if you had a point. Seeing Steve Carell in that movie, and seeing almost every adult in that movie,
Starting point is 00:19:55 you're just like, man, people need gigs. Nick? I actually, that's why I found this movie to be affirming. I was like, you know, I've taken jobs, I found this movie to be affirming. I was like you know I've taken jobs I've done things Deep-raw it probably like shot like shot Forty-oh Virgin it had not come out yet. Yeah, right? So he's just like they're giving me a fucking I'm gonna be in a movie I'm gonna be on the
Starting point is 00:20:19 Working and by the way, he's funny. It's very funny funny. And he like does a lot with that job. I'm gonna say, better than Paul Bar, Mall Cop. I enjoy savage take down. I'm shocked you are brave enough to say that, Paul. Look, America might disagree with the huge shit of Paul Bar, Mall Cop, of $100 million of the box. I was gonna say that. Okay, here's what I would understand. So, Jasey, so here's my theory about why Jasey
Starting point is 00:20:48 wanted to do that scavenger hunt. I think there is a part of Jasey after that, after her assault, you know, another way to say it, no other way to get around it. That her boyfriend just seemingly drove onto the center of. And I just want to just, like, I believe she is so. Look at, there are people.
Starting point is 00:21:08 There are people. So well. One, two, there's six lights and people walking. He is, he is in the center of the town square. He drove up on the lawn. Like this is not where you take someone. If you're taught and you're trying to finger someone, and you can do it. And he's in his cutoff tee.
Starting point is 00:21:29 This is ridiculous. Well, I think what happened to Stacy here is I think she thought she could kind of hang and that she was... She was too much. She's going to bridge. That's right. I think she realized I'm on the bridge. She thought she was over the bridge. She's still on the bridge. She was too much. That's right. I think she realized I'm on the bridge.
Starting point is 00:21:45 She thought she was over the bridge. Oh yeah. She's still on the bridge. I'm on the bridge. Yeah, for that. And I need to return to fun. And that sleepover that I was supposed to be at. Yeah, it turns out she wasn't on the bridge,
Starting point is 00:21:58 but instead a full grass parked in a car. It felt to me because it's really, it's a heartbreaking scene. And especially once you, at the end of the movie, realized Todd had no interest in bringing Stacy to the dance because he has another girlfriend. For six months. Who he's going to the dance with. He was just going to basically fuck her and then get dressed
Starting point is 00:22:19 and then go to the dance with his real girlfriend. So he's not even creating a romantic night. It's really just a tough time. It's really just okay. Let's pull off on the side of the road and this park. I desperately wanted Stacey to, I feel like Stacey's moment of recognition or realizing that she's done wrong
Starting point is 00:22:39 is had with SpongeBob in the dance sequence rather than with Julie Corkey. Yes, because SpongeBob represents fun and lightness, and that's the guy she should be with, even though he was in a coma, and when they say it, when they, when they, when they, at the beginning of the movie is a lot of ripping, as Jim said, phoepic and things of that nature,
Starting point is 00:23:01 but they go, he goes, I was in a coma. They go, you were barely in a coma. Anyone who says I was in a coma, let them have that win. Can we let them have that? Barely, and he's like, and I love when Stacy at the end, he's like, you want to see a picture of me in a coma? He's like, yeah. And he shows her and she's like, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And he's like, but now I have this picture, and that's better than the one of the intercom. He put it in his wallet. And that's sweet. That's a moment I loved about this, because it's two 14-year-olds, having a truly difficult time coming of age, which is what this movie is about.
Starting point is 00:23:41 But here's a note I wrote. Here are words I wish I wasn't typing. This movie has too much 13 year old foot content. Oh. I just want to say... I just want to say while we're on... You're not wrong. Oh, it's...
Starting point is 00:24:01 I'm not wrong because every girl gets foot close-ups. It's not it. Well, because they were shooting it as a double for a proof of concept for Tarantino babies. I will just say this, that moment at the end got me where he did replace his coma picture with the picture of them because man alive, aren't Polaroid stick cameras the best? Oh yeah. You know, you could just get a picture. And Polaroid stick cameras, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:32 you can get them at old Navy. Okay, this is the last. Yeah, this is the last. Oh, man, no, it just seems so naturally. Polaroid stick cameras, they're great. When they lay down and remember, take a picture of it on your Polaroid stick camera. Can we just talk about SpongeBob?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Really quick. Yeah, yeah. And his crew there. And that crew, and I, I, I, were you part of that crew? Was that like your kind of crew? I was not. I wish I were part of that, that crew of skateboarder kids,
Starting point is 00:25:03 you know, I, I say this and I am not done the pod in a while so I don't know where we are. I hated his performance. Wow. I really hated it. And I was like, who's this fucking bozo? Doing this impression of a person doing an impression of Jim Carey.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I fucking hate this performance. Where did this bozo end up? And then I went over to cast and saw that this guy is gonna win an Emmy for Dahmer and has become one of the most sought-after actors of our generation. Bold choices never fail. This is where it began. You can see the dumber in this. There are multiple award winners in this cast. We have an Oscar winner and we have a Brewer's and one,
Starting point is 00:26:04 an Oscar for Best Actress in this movie. It would be funny though, SpongeBob's going, you're going through his wallet and he's just like a bunch of pictures of like severed hands. I'm wrong, that's all right, that's common. SpongeBob, what's that smell, SpongeBob? SpongeBob, I want to pull this up, and I feel we can refer to it throughout the show. I think it's right here.
Starting point is 00:26:29 OK, so this is just something I started to put together. Sleep over a timeline. I wanted to start to figure out the timeline of this movie. Can we just pull? Yeah. Did you make this? Yeah, I made this. That's... June? June, did you make this? Yeah, I made this. That's...
Starting point is 00:26:45 June, June, do you need a lawyer? Yeah. So I've made a timeline here. So 7 p.m., we know as Liz is somewhere, blow out, then 7 is... This is like, I'm sorry to interrupt you, Paul. This is like if Paul wrote a screenwriting book and was like, I'm gonna use this as the example.
Starting point is 00:27:05 This is how you break down a script. Oh. Then we know that Julie starts around seven-ish. Julie's mom leaves at seven-ish. So then we see a giant montage of the sleepover. And I'm gonna say that that's 90 minutes because we see multiple nail paintings. We see a broth freezing.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'm gonna guess that the broth would need about 40 minutes to freeze. At least, at least. Again, I'm so wrong. Depending on material and I couldn't feel the pressure. I couldn't feel the pressure. I couldn't feel the pressure. How many like preteen girl bras I saw in this movie?
Starting point is 00:27:37 End songs! End songs! I mean like... Ha ha ha! And then I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess. Tell me if I'm wrong here. Cause I'm gonna need your help here. I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess, tell me if I'm wrong here, because I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna need your help here.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I'm gonna guess at eight o'clock the dance starts. That seems about right to me. And we know that the dance is gonna end at midnight. That we do know. Okay, now... Now... Then it's just a ticking clock. Now we know, just for the listener at home,
Starting point is 00:28:00 there is a line in this breakdown that Paul wrote that says, parenthetically, most old Navy closed at least as soon as that's the T-shirt. That's the T-shirt. No, no, no. I put it back. Do not fix it. You guys closed at at least this night. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. Dumpster table is not good. So I wanna just quickly get a couple more of these things. We know that our popular girl, she is waiting for a boyfriend. I'm assuming it's about 30 minutes late, she's a little bit upset. She gets driven and dumped, yes. Can I just quickly talk to you things?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Whatever you wanna say about Todd and the actor playing Todd, Can I just quickly say, whatever you want to say about Todd and the actor playing Todd, he stops perfectly in front of her. Good stop. Like it's a great, and this is having driven cars. You know what, you drive a car in a scene and you're like, and they're like, all right, and just stop right here
Starting point is 00:29:20 and you're like, and they're like, can you do it again, but fucking hit the fucking mark. You know what I mean? I just want to give Todd some props. He fucking nails to stop. In a wide. It's like, I lose weight. She's like, bam.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Right there, she's in, they're out. I think it's because it's a convertible. I think you had better view of like the weird chalk mark for the tire, Nate. Better than a stunt coordinator complimenting you on your ability to do something as mundane as stop in the tire needed. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:29:49 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no that Paul is writing in a document seven to eight thirty PM nail painting bra freezing and dance party This is aspirational for Paul she Must delete this afterward and drag it over to trash you must must leave now. I want to show you something I'm not even to the I'm not even to the crux of my argument yet Okay, we assume that the driving in dump is 830. The noise complaint 835 because she calls Julie moments after the noise complaint happens and then I'm going to say that then Stacy gets there to 840 and the hunt is announced.
Starting point is 00:30:37 At which point Stacy says the hunt begins at 8. But judge, look at this. When you look at their files, and you look at their, this, you can see, on the AOL page, the messages are at 912, 913, 914 p.m. So, that means they face-chatted in the nines, which means- This is chilling.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Pulse. Stop. This is like very upsetting. Now, if they did that in the time- I'm saying you are, Pulse never been more alive. I didn't. If they did that in the nines, most old Davies are already closed.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Why didn't you know? And I'm gonna assume that the food courts in the malls are also closed. So now we have a big shower. And then we have a big shower. Do, do big shower. Can we talk about the shower real quick? Have you ever taken your shirt off two hands at a time?
Starting point is 00:31:44 Never. Do you know that thing where it's like, it's a play? It was sexy. Here's what I'll say. I've never taken a shirt off from the top. Yes. I exclusively am. From the bottom off.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I don't do a tug it off. I thought you- Now, if you knew someone was behind you watching... You think he knows? No way. You think he knows he's new. He knew. This situational awareness of the people in this movie,
Starting point is 00:32:18 multiple times people have other people hiding, like, two feet away from them, like breathing on them and they don't notice. Oh, not only that, most of Jeff Garland's home is destroyed around him, and he is oblivious. He's so fucking on the moon. He's so fucking on the moon, installing a water filter that the complete destruction of his,
Starting point is 00:32:44 our burr or his, whatever that is, gazebo. I don't know. He goes unnoticed and does the treat for collapsing onto the house. But this is what I loved about Jane Lynch as a mom. And I actually resented Julie thinking her mom was such a square.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Like her, those slumber party rules, and Paul, we didn't see when the slumber party rules. I have slumber party rules. They're not up on the timeline. Well, I mean, I have to get up here. But when the slumber party rules are announced, like she really just wants to, she doesn't want to see any structural damage to the house,
Starting point is 00:33:20 is what she says, which I found to be amazing. With these nerds? There's no chance. These nerds are not gonna do any structural damage. They've been having a party. She's having four girls over one, which she didn't even want, who's not even on the fucking poster.
Starting point is 00:33:34 That's the thing. That's the thing. That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie.
Starting point is 00:33:43 That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie. That's the story of the movie. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yancy is a little larger than the other girls, and she isn't invited, and she's invited as like a guilt invite. Which is never then addressed. No. They never have a moment. Yancy finds out she's like a second choice because Stacy bailed, and then she's very hurt by that.
Starting point is 00:34:01 But because she gets an adult man speaker, boyfriend, again, Yancy ends up with a boyfriend who's an adult man. No, I think he's a kid. No, no, he's a kid. He's a high school. He's a speaker company. Just for the summer. Just for the summer.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Make a little extra cat. The summer that started, the summer that started immediately at school and it's changed. And we know 14 Jason as soon as people run into a hallway and throw papers in the air that means it's summer eighth grade's done it's a whole new ball game I mean Yancy washed off that 10 pretty quick and that was a funny question of like the yes and And the rationale of like, would you rather have celery or a brownie?
Starting point is 00:34:49 She's like, well, a brownie. And she's like, well, just find somebody who also wants a brownie. I was like, wait, what? But it's for reality. What were two-way? At first I was feeling like really terribly for Yancey. And I was like, wow, the only thing
Starting point is 00:35:02 they're going to give this character and this actresses that she's fat That's it. There she's just obsessed with being they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they show her no humanity It is absolutely terrible. However If I'm if I have to choose a character to play of the four girls I think I'm choosing Yancey over the red-headed girl who had no character. Like, there's like, what was he saying? I don't go on being yelled at for being said
Starting point is 00:35:30 that I don't understand these characters. Yeah. Well, I knew who they were, though. I knew who they were. I knew who they were. I wasn't confusing Yancy for a breath. No, you were a ret. I don't have any personality.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I know Yancy, and I know what she's up to, but Borets has no bearing on my face. And I do, by the way, I think that sometimes happens with red heads, where they're like, you know what she's up to, but Borretz has no bearing on my face. And I do, by the way, I think that sometimes happens with Redheads, where they're like, you know what? There's your redheads, and that's enough. This is back in dangerous territories. This is like, not the David Cruz.
Starting point is 00:35:56 You are saying I think the world is yours. I think the world assumes your redhead, and that's personality enough. I want to talk about the date because I don't want to get too far away from it. Wait, which date? I want to talk about the whole thing. Going on date safe, the police approved. Here's the thing, and I don't know, because maybe I made a mistake,
Starting point is 00:36:19 but I'm on datesafe.com. And I'm trying to find love. And it says I'm handsome and police approved. So date safe is a website in which the police inspect each person that you date. Now I have a feeling this is a network note, a studio note. Like, oh, so then the girls will go on a internet dating. Well, yeah, but we can't have a 14 year old student. Oh, but what if it's police approved, done.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Okay, so even if the guy, so the guy she's gonna meet is approved by the police? Yes. Okay, well then it's not that creepy. It can't be like a pet or a pet. Imagine how that works. The application goes to the police, and we're trusting the police to vouch for the guy. I'm working overtime.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I'm working overtime. I'm working overtime, stamping these applications. He says he likes photography so far. I haven't seen anything to prove that. Denied, you know. This shit blew my mind because this is where they're not moved. But what people don't know is they cut a scene where you then go to sting. And he is checking out each of these people.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It's him, it's him, it's him, Stuart Copeland and the other guy. That's why they broke up. The only issue I do is whether Mr. Carado was ready to be approved. By the way, Mr. Carado was so much hotter before the makeover. I was like, let Mr. Carado be Mr. Carado. Well Mr. Carado had the thing that often is done to young girls in movies like this,
Starting point is 00:38:06 where they take off his glasses and must up his hair and all of a sudden he's a sexy dude. This movie has multiple eight second makeovers, multiple makeovers that take place in a second. And that's one of them. And the other one is when they rip, when they rip Julie's sleeves off, where she's like, I look like my mom and they're like, wait a minute. Rip, rip, rip.
Starting point is 00:38:28 They tailor a dress faster than the mice in Cinderella. And why is the patrolman even after them? Like, what, the patrolman seems like- Noise complaints. Deep Karell? Yeah. Yeah, oh, for various. Right, like, like, he's upset that they're making noise.
Starting point is 00:38:44 He should be patrolling the neighborhood. He's taking a break at a mall But even if they were in the mall kiosk that's not his duty. That's a mall guard the manic Ball art mall cops shop The mannequin mall shit with Karel where they're just they keep and it's to the J. Gallsman freeze frame And it's a cover of that song, because I think Peter Wolfen, J. Gallows band, we're like, we're not, we don't want it. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That was also like, this movie has real silly, comedy, broad comedy beats to it, that work. Can I, can I pay the redhead a compliment? Go. When she had to pose as a mannequin and be fully dead eyed, I thought she nailed it. She did. I thought it's down. She, whatever she was doing to her eyes, that was a good direct. They got the great.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Now, what do you believe me? If I told you that was Jessica Chasse. I only bring up. She was the best mannequin of the bunch. I only bring up Steve Carell because when these girls go to this club and they somehow take a giant speaker out of a case and leave it somewhere, then no one notices it to get in the speaker case to get in the transported into the theater.
Starting point is 00:40:00 He's nowhere to be seen. That would have been the spot. Oh, I guess he's locked in the old Navy closet at that point Who knows He was putting himself on tape for little Miss Sunshine and so they were like he's on a veil Sorry, where are you saying Jim? Paul you think that You think that Steve Carell is also patrolling the high school? No, but he's after these girls, right?
Starting point is 00:40:29 Oh, I seriously think he's looking for the kids. He's also at Steve's house because Stacy and the popular girls call in and there's a suspicious person at Steve's house when the... Todd's house. But oh, Steve's house when she's trying to steal... Oh, Steve's house. When Julie is in the shower trying to steal the boxers. Yes, of course, of course. Sorry. Why don't I know this movie so well? I got the time on down that. I should have sat in it, but self is a red flag.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So then, we are going to assume that Steve Carell is out of commission from at least 930 to 1030. I'm going to imagine that that's, if we're going to... And there is no other law enforcement in this country. I'm going to say that, that Steve Carell is out of commission from at least 930 to 1030. I'm gonna imagine that that's, if we're gonna... And there is no other law enforcement in this entire town. I was so happy that the bartender was like, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:41:15 You're young. Like, thank God someone recognized children. This movie does not recognize children. It's also scathing indictment of the teacher that he does not recognize children. It's also scathing indictment of the teacher that he does not recognize his own student simply because she's wearing sunglasses. That's embarrassing. But then, Poe is for any criminal.
Starting point is 00:41:33 But he's saying, you're a swimsuit model to a 14-year-old student? By the way, she had the best comeback. He's like, what's that like? And she said, it's cold. Great joke. It's funny. Genuinely funny. But then poses for, this is what I wrote in my notes.
Starting point is 00:41:51 This movie is really going out of its way to make you understand how it's possible to date a 14-year-old. It's plausible deniability. He poses for an incriminating picture. He's, he now knows. Here's what I, here's what I heard. Here's what I will say is they, they do look happy. And,
Starting point is 00:42:14 Oh, dear. And like, I wanted him to get together with her mom. I was like, oh, wouldn't it be great if Jane Lynch and Johnny Sneed had just like make Garland into a fucking cock? I would have loved to have seen a whole movie. Garland into it? Yeah. Hey, man, it's great.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Hey, Rosemary. I did not like the sexualization of Jeff Garland's ass. By the way, I do think it was a butt double. I do think his crack is a butt double. I did not like the sexualization of Jeff Garland's ass. By the way, I do think it was a butt double. I do think his crack is a butt double. I was just saying I'd love to see a whole movie about Jane Lynch's night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Do you know? Bad ones. What a great movie that would be. Like an answer movie, the kids movie, and this is the, oh, I love that. Yeah, because again, I want to know when she bought that lock. Was it out that night? Who were those women at first? Yeah, make again, I want to know when she bought that lock, was it out that night?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Who were those women at first? Yeah, make it a connection that's like her group of girlfriends are analogous to her daughter's group of girlfriends. Love it. Love it. I like it. I like a lot of these pitches. Should we?
Starting point is 00:43:18 And then I'll make a timeline for it and I'll put it up there. But eventually, again, the dance ends at midnight. And I guess we're gonna say, like, around 11.45 is when they're gonna be giving out the awards, which also seems, from the schedule of the night, it just seems pretty rough. But no one's going through this dance on time at all. That guy is not even showered and ready. He's playing pool in a giant ass mansion. It seems like he's like Bruce Wayne.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And she sees his dick, right? She definitely sees his dick. No, she sees his butt. Okay. She sees his butt. But you think so? Well, it's his butt, but then you can see his fucking dick hanging through.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Oh, I think, no, I think what happens. And then his dick takes off a t-shirt. Again, this is, we're talking about a child's dick. Go ahead. He's a high schooler. He's a high schooler. He's a high schooler. Oh, he is?
Starting point is 00:44:22 He's a high schooler. They went to elementary school together, but he's high school. I'm sorry, remember. The moment where she, I don't want to make boards past his part. I loved it. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It is like an incredible skateboarder. I was like, yes, give me this all day. I don't know why, but why didn't we see that? When the mom, when Jane Lynch is saying, oh, you know, I missed the days of ladybugs and, you know, princesses and all this stuff, I'm like, well, you know, I missed the days of Lady Bugs and, and, you know, princesses and all this stuff. I'm like, well, actually your daughter seems to be into skateboarding in basketball. And that's still childlike and cool. And we never got to see that. I'm
Starting point is 00:44:56 like, that would be awesome to have seen her playing basketball, to have seen her skateboarding. She didn't seem to care about skateboarding at all. It was just a means to get home as quick as possible. Even though she's doing... I'm glad you're just transportation. Next level trick. She's so good. Well, guys, she's so good.
Starting point is 00:45:11 A Marmaduke. She jumps a Marmaduke. Is this in the MCU? Is this in the MCU, the Marmaduke Cinematic Universe? I always say this. There's a moment when the hot high school guy looks at her yearbook, looks at this picture of her, Julie Korky, and goes, wow, she turned out pretty good. And he's looking at, like, and her things are drama club, basketball, debate team, hobbies,
Starting point is 00:45:38 hot dogs. Funny. I skateboarding in that club. I think that's a good girl. She turned out pretty good. I think he's seeing Like those hobbies that whole vibe and he's like fuck yeah, then she's in a skateboarding she's in hot dogs I don't want to yuck anyone's yum, but I want to just talk about this scene right here
Starting point is 00:46:01 So Julie breaks into the hot guy's house, right? She's looking around she's in her little dress and And then she sees his skateboard and then his skateboarder and then finds a shoe, puts a two-a-nose and smells the sweet- And jiu-mails this guy. That's the most truthful moment in the movie. Now here's my question about Julie's brother. I want to just call it a... The college dropout. The college dropout. Who also looks like he's in junior high. He doesn't have the Paul Rudd energy that we expect from Clues.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Maybe he's too old in that. But when I think about college, I can't tell these fucking kids apart. I'm like, who's the high school? Who's junior high? Who's kindergarten? Who's college, who's Jeff Garland? I don't know. Is Jeff Garland just getting at a sixth grade? He might be. Paul, this is like, I mean, you're turning into my father who could never recognize when he watched the departities. Like, I don't know, they all looked exactly the same to me. By the way, which character is right? By the way, and I know Scorsese is listening. by the way, and I know Scorsese is listening. You're damn not wrong, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:08 But it's like, Paul's really turning into a little man. And by the way, Gina Berry said a prop in him. We're all be there front row. Thank you. Congratulations. Can I just quickly say, so I am, I am, the older brothers played by Sam Huntington, who is an old friend of mine. We were on the hitch, probably,
Starting point is 00:47:26 the biggest highlight of his career was to be on the show Caveman with me. What year was that? Of course. That's 2007. Okay, so this is pre- Caveman. This is pre- Caveman. And so I watched him and I was like,
Starting point is 00:47:37 yeah, I was like, it's great. I thought it was funny. He's great, he's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. I was kind of the comic relief 100%. Oh, the seamery. He's all the pizza with the dog. I was like, he's going his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job.
Starting point is 00:47:46 He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job.
Starting point is 00:47:54 He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job.
Starting point is 00:48:02 He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. his car has been reaped. Something, some sort of gambling debt, something, but no, Paul, some financial disaster. Okay. Hit him and I don't know what he got involved in, but his car was repossessed in college. I mean, if he doesn't have any of this. He doesn't even know what for that long.
Starting point is 00:48:19 He's a freshman in college, right? Or something, he seems young. So yeah, I don't think he was like well in to college. So he comes back home and he's searching for cash, desperate. Oh right, he wanted that cash. And the reason why the ladies are able to kind of continue on in their adventures because they're cutting deals with him left and right. So now, his sister has cut a deal where she will pay him $50 a month for three months. He pushes for six. He pushes for six. But there's 150 bucks is going to get him out of the hole.
Starting point is 00:48:54 She's negotiating hard with him. But here's what's interesting about his journey. And that's why I do want to see a movie about Jane Lynch's night. And I also want to see a movie about your sit's night, and I also want to see a movie about you. This is like your sit-down. I'm hunting jeans night. The hit Amazon show. Because I would invest in a movie currently that checks in on all these characters. Yes, because through the quirks of the night.
Starting point is 00:49:18 20 years later, the next sleepover. They're having a kid. This is so interesting, though, because he's just sort of a witness to all of this. I mean, he engages in the action a little bit when he gets her out of the situation with Steve Carell, but by the end of the night, he decides to go back to college. Yeah, he's changed. But why?
Starting point is 00:49:37 Because I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why I haven't thought about this. I actually did. It's in my timeline. Around 9.45. He realizes he can handle anything. He can make deals. He can, he can dress up his friends to do a rendition of Spice Girl
Starting point is 00:49:54 with Wigs. Where do you get those Wigs? You think that that was him though? Why did he have those? Of their own hair. Oh, it's a pop. They're wearing Wigs, I'm saying. Those were the grandma's Wigs,
Starting point is 00:50:04 because at one point, Jane Lynch threatens to leave Julie and not take her to, on the family trip to Hawaii. And threatens to just leave her to brush out her grandma's wigs. Okay, which we don't see. Now, but he does say this line. And Jason made this. That's a second grandma too, because it's not like she has a couple wigs of the same style. No, no, she's got a broad, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:26 The drama is out of the club. She was a real character and I think, and I think, and I think the daughter is reminiscent and Jane Lynch is caught in between. Oh, I see the spark. Interesting. She's on the bridge of her own. Yes, exactly. Let's get Rita Moreno to finally be the grandma and the reboot
Starting point is 00:50:47 Have a great moment. I want to say one thing though. This is the moment where I think he changes I don't remember the exact line, but I remember he goes oh when he's eating the dog play dough Oh, when he says foods change no this is the moment when he goes High schools all blank and blank in college is all ribbons and lampshades. And the way he says it, I don't know what ribbons are, but I know lampshades are like that traditional thing like, hey, I'm drunk at a party, I put a lampshade on, no. What is it? Oh, he had been, he had been, he had been the guest bedroom and turned in him.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Oh, so the guest bedroom was, I thought was saying I keep on through some trauma with ribbons and lamb shades And I was like this is the props of this character I didn't realize he was just commenting that his room was turned into his mom's sewing room. Oh I thought I found something I These are you thought lampshades were like an iconic college like I Thought he was saying like you go to college and it's all ribbons and lampshades were like an iconic college. I thought he was saying like, you go to college and it's all ribbons and lampshades. I drank too much. I said too many things.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Oh, I thought it's like you win a war. Like either you're a standout student and you get ribbons for your knowledge. Or you're a party monster who wears lampshades because you're the life of a party. So wait, just, I know we're gonna go to the audience, Paul. And I want to, I want to. So he's saying that college is ribbons and lampshades, but college isn't ribbons and lampshades. That's his home away from college
Starting point is 00:52:16 because he's not in college. Exactly. Yeah, I think he's saying in failure, life is ribbons and lampshades. Like you can't go back. Like it's, like your life, In failure, life is ribbons and lampshades. Like you can't go back. Like it's, like your life is, once you leave, you can't come back to life.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Life is, now his room is a craft core candidate. I thought he was an 18 year old. And 18 year old is like you can never go back home again. Yeah, I thought he was referencing a Johnny Mitchell song called, Drippin's and Lampshades. Guys, we were just in Seattle, we saw Johnny Mitchell. There's amazing. I had a religious experience.
Starting point is 00:52:52 One of the best nights of my life. It happened. One of the best nights of my life. Live. My life. My life. My life. We're doing great.
Starting point is 00:53:04 All right, let's go to the crowd here. Let's talk to you all. My life! My life! We're doing great. All right, let's go to the crowd here. Let's talk to you all. All right, so I'm gonna ask you to tell me your name and one fun scavenger thing you could go get if you were on a sleepover scavenger hunt, all right? So what's your name? Rick.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Rick, what's one fun thing you would do on a sleepover scavenger hunt? She would go get the batter for the hot dogs that she did work the hot dog in the stick. Great, that's one fun thing you would do on a sleepover scavenger hunt? She would go get the batter for the hot dogs that she did work the hot dogs in the stick. Great, that's great. I like that. I like those. Well researched thing, because she's making those twinkies.
Starting point is 00:53:35 All right, what's her question? What possibly could have led to her friend telling her that she has good knees and a big brain? Great. June? has good knees and a big brain. Great. June. So, trust me, I was worried about that statement. I was thinking about that statement quite a bit. I think it's because she's a skateboarder, and I think it's because I hope it's because. So it's not because...
Starting point is 00:54:05 It's not because it's not like a great way to try to get a blowjob. I was worried about that. You got big knees and you give good head. I like... That's the movie Treads of fine line between being like... Because the kids are so young, but they want to be making clearly like a like because it's the kids are so young, but they want to be making clearly like a sex,
Starting point is 00:54:28 like a John Hughes sex comedy in a way, but it's not, it's really uncomfortable. They should have the bridge. Like I think they could have called this movie the bridge. The bridge, yeah. My favorite Joni Mitchell song. All right, hey, what's your name? Jose.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Jose, what is one fun thing you would do in a scavenger hunt with these girls? Paul! Paul! Paul, what are you doing? You're asking an adult, man, what do you would do with? Four, 14 year old. Oh, making him play a character here.
Starting point is 00:55:05 We would steal something from Hot Topic or Ground. Four, four, ten, or a making him play a character here. We would steal something from Hot Topic or grab. That's a great answer. And what time would you do that at? It's like I put it on my phone. All right, so your question. So can we talk about the ticket girl at the dance? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And how Julie essentially told her You study too much and you play monopoly with your parents. Can you just let me go? Years in four years. I will be you unless I get into this dance. Okay, first of all Messages you, you're lost. But help me not become you. The craziest part, though, is the ticket booth woman. Summer glove. Is the most beautiful woman in the movie. Is the most beautiful person in the movie.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And the first non-white person we have seen the entire film. Oh, this is Charizard level-level white. She's absolutely breathtaking and seems quite lovely and composed and self-possessed. I'm like, why is she being taken down? I said, high school troll. Not only that, she seems to be like, yes, I support you. I was a third. Julie Korky or...
Starting point is 00:56:20 Korky. Korky. Korky. I will tell you that that was the moment that I teared up. Because... No. No. Go on.
Starting point is 00:56:31 All right. Because I thought of this girl playing Monopoly with her family and not thinking there was anything wrong with it. And I was like, that's so cute and so nice. And I want my kids to play Monopoly with me. I know. They will. They will. And it was like, it was a moment I was like, and so nice, and I want my kids to play Monopoly with me where they get older and older. They will, they will. And it was like, it was a moment I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:47 and why is that being shit on? Like that she has a good relationship with her parents. I would hope that my kids would have a good relationship with me. Oh my god. And I really, I really... Honestly, I blame Joni Mitchell for like the experience, the way we, the Three of Us, experienced this movie, because we're not emotionally sort of...
Starting point is 00:57:05 No, I'm shatter. Together, yeah, we are dysregulated. She's played Amelia and I unravel. And so our reading, honestly, our reading of this movie is off. But I love the Paul's emotional connection to the movie was board games. No, I totally hear you. I did spend many Friday nights playing board games and rummage and games with my parents.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And I felt that too. Like that. Of course. I felt that too. And I think it's cool to play games with your parents. Your kids are like, mithing you. But I think it's cool. I think it's cool to play games in your parents. Your kids are like, mithing you. But I think it's pretty bad for that girl because I felt like what Julie was saying was,
Starting point is 00:57:51 you blew it. It's all lost for all hope and loss for you. But there is hope for me. And by the way, I'm Dan Bort. What dance makes a current student a senior work the door? It's like, all right, so I'll work the door. Anyway, she works that door till midnight. Till it, oh my God, all right.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Hi, what's your name? My name is Bridget. Bridget, welcome. And what's a fun thing you would do with these girls on a scavenger hunt? Schedule permitting, perhaps go to another old Navy and get a great deal on some slacks. Oh, yeah, you could get a great deal.
Starting point is 00:58:28 A couple old greats. Wow. All right, now what is your question? I would love to return to the Garland Lynch romance. I don't know that I've ever believed less in a marriage. And I sort of felt at the end when they sort of shared a kiss, it was as if like that. It was as if two sock puppets,
Starting point is 00:58:53 mouths were being pressed together. It was very uncomfortable. So how more uncomfortable than a kiss shared between two 14 year olds? So. Do you have a nickname? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I just shared between two 14-year-olds. I just shared between two 14-year-olds. I just shared between two 14-year-olds. Do you have a nickname?
Starting point is 00:59:07 Well, I'll play the devil's advocate here. I found the moment when he was like, did you have fun at the club? And she's like, I did. I found that moving. Wow. What I love about you, he knew what she needed. What I liked about getting what they needed out of their neighbors.
Starting point is 00:59:23 What I liked about that was that Julie over hears it and she had Previous thought that her dad didn't know what her mom was up. Yeah, and then she had like like she had something on her mom But she realizes oh dad knew and their relationship They they have an understanding they know what's going on and they know each other this is the shocking thing about this movie There are moments. There are moments that are really beautiful. Like, you, you, I remember having those moments of like, oh, I'm no longer a child looking at my parents.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I make a little bit older and seeing them with a new, like, sense of emotional intelligence and their people. And I'm a person. And all of these crazy moments and especially with her best friend who loves her was a little bit more mature than her and is going and she's worried she's going to leave. It's I think this is the best movie that's ever been made. I really. And it's sort of here's's weird. It's masked in a terrible movie, but there are moments.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Where the ants can find an adult boyfriend. Okay, justice for dancing. He is a kid. Here's what he works at. About the nightclub in town and the high school day. He said he needed to go to the other gig, Jason. By the way, when he's at the other gig, should he- He worked for a late night speaker delivery service,
Starting point is 01:00:49 not a normal operating hour speaker delivery service. Just to jump back to the speaker boy in Yantzi, I loved. But and the moment in the dance, when Steve on stage says, into the mic, Julie? Julie Corkey? I was like, what? I felt the same. She chooses Julie? I was full of the same.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Jony level emotive. Me too. Sobbing alone in my house, 50 years old, at the possible fingering of a 14-year-old. Help me. I think I'm falling in love again. Come on. But I gotta say, I also have to say that when, I think I was in that the Joni headspace because Joni did cover Freeze Frame at the Joni Jam.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Freeze Frame. Freeze Frame. Freeze Frame. It was great. It was a beautiful song. Freeze frame. Freeze frame. It was great. It was a beautiful song. She's really into it. Sir, what's your name? My name is Colton.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Colton, and what's a fun thing you might do with these young girls on a sleepover? I'd go find some brownie batter. Find some brownie batter. I like that. OK, what's your question? More of an observation. My brother noticed when they were doing the final race
Starting point is 01:02:03 to the high school at the end, the car they're driving is kind of like a tortoise-shaped green car, and the popular girl is driving like a silver kind of hair car. So he's going for the metaphor of like the tortoise and the hair kind of thing, like you know, take things slow, you'll win in the end, take life slow, enjoy your friendships, enjoy your time. Enjoy your time in the bridge. Yeah. And that's coming out of the way. I'm sorry. And did you, and you watch, and you watch the movie
Starting point is 01:02:28 with your brother? That's a really beautiful. That's really beautiful. Do you guys stay home and play board games with your parents? Nothing wrong with that. No, it's beautiful. People process this show as a family. Like fast and furious.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I will say, though. I will say, though. There were some jokes, credit to the writer. There were some jokes in this movie that genuinely made me laugh. When Yancey said, when Yancey's talking to the speaker moving guy, speaker boy, and he says something like, do you, what do you mean guys don't talk to you? And she says, well, usually guys just ask me
Starting point is 01:03:10 to hold the door open for them. I laughed so hard. I thought it was the funniest thing I've ever heard. And when Julie's talking to her teacher and her sunglasses and she laughs, and then he said, oh, I recognize that laugh. And she says, I'm just, she says, I'm not, I like that laugh. Yeah, and he goes, I he said, oh, I recognize that laugh and she says, I'm just, she says,
Starting point is 01:03:26 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. Yeah, because I'm just, she says, I'm just trying on different laughs. Yeah, and then she does, that's not my laugh. That's not my laugh. I laughed so hard.
Starting point is 01:03:35 She does a different laugh and, and it's like, what do you think of that? It's really funny. But then it comes back at the end, he's like, I like your laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Can I ask one question? I was like, I like you laugh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Can I ask one question? I thought that I also thought to that point, when, and we've already talked about it, so forgive me, but when SpongeBob says to Stacey apropos of nothing, do you wanna see a picture of me in a coma? And she says, yes, and he produces it also very funny. Very funny. Like this movie produces it also very funny. Very funny. Like this movie has jokes, very funny.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And the funniest, the moment that I laughed the lot, the hardest and rewound and watched again and laughed again, was the end, the last moment, when the janitor dumps a trash can. That was a great moment. Basically, on to Stacy. I wrote that down, great ending. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:04:25 By the way, Bre makes a very bold choice in not acknowledging the dumping of garbage right on top of her and her friends. Yeah, she's like, this is what I signed up for. I did it. She took the punishment, she understood the assignment. I think there was a part of her. I read in that moment of like, no, this is where I'm supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Yeah. There was a resolve. Well, I will tell you this much as well. What I loved about that final scene was Stacey was eating out of an old-fashioned 1940s lunchpale. Like that girl. Like she's on like an IP bar. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yes. High above the city. I will say the one thing I want to ask before we get into the next part of the show here is at one point she goes, did you do everything? Brown the fridge, paint your toenails, deface the website. What website were they defacing?
Starting point is 01:05:19 So is it the Liz's site? It's the site. Yeah, it's this. Yeah. So, but it's her own site? No, who's Liz? Now, that's a great question. Is Liz a pre-larson?
Starting point is 01:05:32 Oh, yes, because she's been held back a year. That's why she can drive. That's pre-larson's. And I also asked another funny joke when they announced that she's been held back a year. And she has a license and one of the girls said, lucky. I mean, man.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And laugh. She was held back a year, which means that she would be a freshman in high school, not a time when you're driving. Yeah, ever. This movie really wants to be a high school movie. Yes. And inexplicably, and to a degree that is chilling.
Starting point is 01:06:07 See, Jason, we might have very different experiences, but when I was in eighth grade heading into ninth grade, like this movie wasn't shit compared to what I was up to. Oh, a great show. I'm sorry, it wasn't. I found this to be tame. I find this okay. Speak, Jude, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I want to hear more about June, eighth and okay. Speak, Jude, wait, hold on, I want to hear more about June, 8th and 9th. Say, in eighth and ninth grade, I was taking my parents car out. I mean, I was doing all the things that one might do. Drugs, all of it was being done from the, shrugs between eighth and ninth. I was smoking pot, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Wow. But I knew you. Yes. But I knew you. Fulsifying voter information. All of it. I'm saying all of it. Putting your pants on a mannequin's body. Pretending to be a mannequin.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Pretending to be a swimsuit model to date your teacher. Well, look, obviously we have opinions about what June did between 8th and 9th grade. And if this movie is about beautiful work of art, but the truth is there are other people out there with different opinions. It is now time for second opinions. Please welcome Tim. Woo! Woo! Some time for a teenager, girls will bloom. Jeff Garland loves water more than his daughter.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Jane Lynch helps her locker room. Some where high school dances start at 10. Steve Carell is all over town, his airbag explodes again. If Julie finds an awesome guy who hops a fountain while I can't Give it up for Tim. Tim! Tim! Let that jump! Tim! Tim! Tim!
Starting point is 01:08:11 Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim! And stop! Great job, Tim. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:19 This movie has a thousand reviews. The first review is... A thousand reviews. A thousand reviews, 82% or 5% are five-star, three percent are one-star, and this first one is titled The Best Movie of the 2000s, Possibly of My Life. Sleepover has many themes. I think individuals of all ages can find it entertaining and relate to it. It includes a wacky sleepover, a touching mother daughter moment, lessons about sibling loyalty, financial negotiation,
Starting point is 01:08:51 the power of female friendship, questionable romance, and a cute dog. Overall, I would feel comfortable showing this to my kids at a sleepover of their own and might even watch it myself from time to time. Five stars hands down. I mean, I kind of agree with that review. Well, the only thing I don't, it doesn't track for me, is that the person's like,
Starting point is 01:09:15 this is probably the best movie of the 2000, the last 25 years. I might watch it again. This one is written in all caps. When I was a teenager, I could relate to this movie rather well. I always had friends sleeping over and was sneaking away from the parents. I think all teenagers do. This movie was great. It was funny. Daring in a young crowd made like an older crowd. These girls have real talent and I wish them the best of luck with acting.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Five out of five stars, the title is great for teens. It was written by Tiffany M Fitzpatrick. This one by Grace Rainey says this. Everything about this movie made me the happiest I've ever been. Five stars. Wow, the happiest they've ever been. This one says this. A pure joy, a comedy ahead of its time.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Title, you must watch this movie. Five stars. But the best one, it's a five-star review, it says, Evan Peters is 10 out of 10 amazing. And the review goes like this. Evan Peters, five stars. Now, I just will share with you this because Molly did some amazing research here. And she found a website, like a parental warning website about this movie. It's from ScreenIt.com, so tell his parents, you know, things they should watch out for and I highlighted a couple of them. Tenth family scenes, Julie isn't happy with her mom being overbearing.
Starting point is 01:11:05 She thinks she is while mom is suspicious of what Julie and her friends are up to, leading to some smart Alec remarks from Julie to her mom. Smart Alec remarks. Is that the review is written by Jay Mantukas? This is where it says this. This is the biggest section, imitative behavior. Kids may want to have their own version of this adventure. On the last day of school, we see middle schoolers run into the hallways, throw papers everywhere,
Starting point is 01:11:39 and one of them sprays silly string at a teacher. Steve jumps over a fountain. The girls retrieve a bra from the freezer as part of their somber party. We never see what's done with it. Hannah has a mid-revealing top. You do not want your kids to imitate anything like that. The movie in other countries is called Sleeping Away From Home.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Suddenly in love, last day of classes, and revenge in pajamas. Whoa, that's the movie I want to see. That is the Canadian title of that movie. I don't know when anybody's in pajamas in this movie. Vengeance in Bijama. So final thoughts, parting thoughts, would you recommend? This is my final thoughts.
Starting point is 01:12:33 I would recommend this movie if only to get to that last scene between the young actress and Jane Lynch because I just want to say one other thing about that lock because I'm going to Paul I'm gonna remember that lock when we get to this age of parenting Because it was such a beautiful gesture of like oh, I'm giving you something to literally secure our attachment and to make sure That you know I'm okay with you Being secure away from me so that I can actually be closer to you and you can feel closer to me. It was the most beautiful way to express that.
Starting point is 01:13:10 I don't wanna give my kids a rock though, because I know you don't want to, because I use their bathroom. I don't wanna give my kids a rock though, because. I know you don't want to, but it's. I use that bathroom and I can't use my own bathroom. Wait, are you shitting your kids' bathroom? I gotta go somewhere.
Starting point is 01:13:28 And then blame me on it on them. Who didn't fly? My bathroom stinks, you did that. I almost brought our child in to watch us. It's like, you know what, he's home, he's taking a gap week between school and camp. I was like, let's watch this together. I was so happy I did not. Yeah, definitely not. I'm taking a gap week between the school and camp. I was like, let's watch this together. I was so happy I did not.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Yeah, definitely not. I'm taking a gap week. I will say, as a kid, this age, this is the exact kind of movie that if I was a tween kid, and I saw this movie, I would have been obsessed with it. Obsessed. Obsessed with it in the way that I was obsessed with the, have been obsessed with it. Obsessed. Obsessed with it in the way that I was obsessed with the, in for me, the John Hughes movies.
Starting point is 01:14:09 But this is John Hussian, just skewed younger. Well, and also it was hard to, it was hard to know where I would have fallen. Like, I don't think I definitely wasn't in the Brie Larson group, but I'm coma kid all the way. But see, I don't even know if I'm in. He's the, he's the ducky of this universe and I'm all in all the way. But see, I don't even know if I'm in. He's the ducky of this universe, and I'm all in on ducky. I don't even know if my group falls into like Julie Quirky. I'm like, I'm like where Yancy would have gone.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Had she not received the invite? No, it's okay. It's a great time over there. This isn't bad news. But I just don't think that I would have been with Julie and her friends. I would have been one level under. Were you not a soccer sporto at this time?
Starting point is 01:14:49 At this time, I was more of like a theater kid. So maybe I would have met Julie there, but I do feel I was still a little bit away from Julie and the gals. So you think, you think Julie and the gals were aspirational or Julie and the gals were, you think, you think Julian the gals were aspirational or Julian the gals were, you were ahead of them, but not in the Stacey Liz category. I guess, I guess where I was was I was, I was with Yancy had Yancy again, not received that invite because what I feel confident about in my group of girls with Yancy was that we wouldn't have
Starting point is 01:15:25 gone to another sleepover. I see. That's the difference. Were you friends with Yancy? I wish. I was not present in this movie. He wore a represented. The last day of school, I decided I was
Starting point is 01:15:42 going to have a party at my house. I'm just told everyone to come. I lived on a dead end road and everyone came and caused very big traffic jam as everyone drove up the block but then couldn't turn around and get out. And so first of all, the 200 people that showed up to my house, that was an issue. But the traffic jam. That's amazing. Everyone came. That's incredible. the 200 people that showed up to my house, that was an issue. But the traffic jam. That's amazing, everyone came, that's incredible.
Starting point is 01:16:07 It was a fun, well, I don't even know, well, it was something. There was a lot of anger from the neighbors because they were all trapped in their houses. It was a literal line of cars that had nowhere to turn. And yeah, it was a tricky night. Um. Ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And then they all finally get out of there and then it's like, now we gotta go pick them up. Well, yeah, that was all, that was, well, they see a lot of kids who started getting out of their cars and coming into my house. And then I had to spend a lot of time talking to the neighbors and going,
Starting point is 01:16:43 who has a Ford Fistiva, a red Ford Fistiva, had to find cars, but that car was stuck in them. It was very difficult. Wait, were you the valet at your own party? Well, my mom was like, you've gotten yourself into this mess. You got to get out. So it was just trying to like, play Tetris all night. But I think my mom let us drink beer.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Save it for the book. Incredible stuff, that's wild. I mean, that's middle school, it's all tripped. But at the end of the day, it's Ribbons and Lambshades. Ha ha ha ha. Oh, thank you all for coming out tonight. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.
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