How Did This Get Made? - The Apple LIVE! w/ Andy Richter (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, Andy Richter of Conan joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1980 disco/rock opera The Apple. They’ll cover June believing the movie took place in space, Paul not realizing the movie’s connection to Adam and Eve, and the BIM mandated hour exercise. Plus, we get into accents as the audience comes prepared with BIM marks during Audience Q&A! (Originally Released 02/05/2016) Tix for our Spring 2025 tour in Austin, Denver, Seattle, Boise, San Fran, Portland, & Los Angeles are on sale now at hdtgm.com.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

If the finale of Staying Alive fucked Zardas, while Xanadu watched, you would get this movie. We saw the apple, so you know what that means. -♪ Oh, how this heart is going up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and Screamin' How this Schwarzenegger grow a baby in his belly? Rock a Ron Stone vest while whipping Justin and Kelly Or maybe see a burlesque show with Nick Crowe And take a bowl of speed to hit the cruise control J-Man, Big Paul, and the beautiful June Gonna take you from the groove all the way to the room

Branded games and Street Fighter hope to blow off steam Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green Choc-Nado, the birdemic how we staying alive They call him in the badass and he's on the line Cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice Cause the bad Jim Barney looking kinda nice Paul and June getting literal Jason is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid

They judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade Here's a real question for you, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth! And welcome, people of Largo! Thank you, thank you, thank you! We are very excited to be here tonight with this amazing audience here at Largo, our LA home, to talk about one of the most important movie musicals of all time. Let's bring out our co-host right now. Please welcome June Diane Raefield.

Please welcome June! How are you June? I'm doing well, how are you Paul? And now welcome Jason Manzoukas! Flat Ronnie in the house! Flat Ronnie will be joining us tonight. He'll be performing security. We have a very special guest tonight. Please welcome our very special guest, Mr. Andy Richter! Okay. Here we go. Here we go now. Can I ask you guys a question? Who fucking gave you

guys BIM marks? Look at all you dummies. I did not see this. You didn't notice the BIM marks? I didn't notice it until I went in. Wow. I never look at the audience. This is amazing. Wow. How could you not see them? Yeah. I'm normally on the sidelines looking for chesty ladies.

All I see is shiny foreheads. What's going on, nerds? Most of our audience is in BIM marks. Okay. Did we give you these? No. No. Who made the BIM marks. Okay, who did we give you these? No, no who made the BIM marks? Who is responsible? Yeah back there. Maybe there was a Stand up a sponsorship by the same prismatic tape company that was behind this movie. Well done nerds. Well done Amazing. We'll definitely talk to the the BIM mark makers. If you don't know what we're talking about. Good luck

the BIM mark makers. If you don't know what we're talking about, good luck. Um. I love when people are like, I hate when they talk visual stuff on the podcast. This movie, well, logic be damned. That's what you all sound like to me. But no, we were just talking backstage very briefly about this,

that I'm so happy to talk about this movie because it is unlike anything I think we've ever seen. Yeah, well, I mean, it is in that it is an incompetent rip-off of other things. So it's like, it's unique in that it's attempting to ape other things, but it does it not just like badly, but just like in the way that you'd think a squirrel would understand language.

Well, I will say, it's so strange. For the first, I wanna say 15 minutes of the movie, I thought this was taking place in outer space. I really did, I was like, we're in outer space. I don't know quite where, but I thought we were in outer space. Well, the opening number kind of looks like Cobra Commander and like Destro from G.I. Joe got together and formed like a rock band.

And what's incredible too is that you start out the movie cold into a big production number where all you hear are lyrics that are like hearing things like, Hey, this is on the phone. Hey, I'm in the middle of my jail. Be my way. Be my way. Be my way. And I had to turn on the fucking captioning. I did too. I did too.

Because I was like, what the fuck are they saying? I am so happy I turned on the captions for this movie. Because it's an even crazier read. I will just for a second just play a little bit of the opening song. And I would like to get back to where June thought this was in space. Yeah. I will just play, just so you can hear what, this is how the movie opens. And it opens like this for a solid 15 minutes. I am!

I am! What? I am! What? What is that word? To the Bim. What? There ain't no good.

There ain't no bad. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no tears. Wait, there ain't no good. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no tears. There ain't no good. There ain't no bad. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no tears. There ain't no power. There ain't no power. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no good.

There ain't no bad. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no tears. There ain't no power. There ain't no power. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no happiness.

There ain't no happiness. There ain't no tears. There ain't no good. There ain't no bad. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no good. There ain't no tears. There ain't no bad. There ain't no happiness. There ain't no happiness. there wasn't that thing. I could hear those words. What I could never hear was what there was. That was, I always wanted to get what is there though.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. It's like a generic meatloaf song, like a deep meatloaf song. The whole, I agree in that the whole movie is a generic meatloaf song. And I feel like every, I feel like they were getting close to production. So they told the guy who was writing all the music, just write opening lyrics and one chorus and then abort.

We'll just repeat that over and over again. Well, I mean, then it's revealed that the opening is essentially an American Idol-esque contest. No, it's that super, it's a song contest. Yeah, that song, Eurovision song contest. Yeah, but now it's, because it's 1994. Of course. It's the entire world.

How do you know it's 1994 in the movie? Oh, it's on time. JK, they talk about it fucking constantly. And every turn somebody's like, well you know it's 1994 right now, the year that we're in. And by the way, this movie was made in 1980, so they were only like really throwing it ahead 14 years. A lot happens in 14 years, and none of it's good.

See, I'm still trying to understand this contest and the fact that the audience member's heart rates are tested while the performers are up there. And Mr. Boogaloo. Wait, who? Wait, who? I'm sorry. Mr. Boogaloo wants to see that the heart rates

are going up. Right. I can't even follow this train of logic so that. Let's get into it. So that he can manage these artists. I can't even follow this train of logic so that... Let's get into it. So that he can manage these artists. He already manages... Bim.

Bim. That is the person we just heard singing Bim. Of course. And so he wants Bim to with... No, no, Bim is the name of the company. Yeah, no, no, no. This is a different... Bim is the name of the fucking company.

Oh, sorry. That's why it's even more obtuse. You don't even find out for 20 minutes what the fuck BIM is. I thought. And you have to get it from the initials above the door of their building. That's so crazy. I thought BIM was a BIM.

It's like saying, IBM is the way. Yep. It's the, it's. Well, okay. I'll say this much about BIM. The craziest thing about BIM is, and I'm gonna jump ahead a little bit. At one point we are. Please do.

At one point we're in the corporate headquarters about BIM is, and I'm gonna jump ahead a little bit, at one point we are Please do! At one point we're in the corporate headquarters of BIM. Yeah, BIM HQ. And there's a sign that says like Aero Music Department, like this way, but what other departments are there at BIM? Let's not forget that there are clowns on staff at BIM. Well, no, no. The waiting room of BIM looks like a Cirque du Soleil break room.

Yes. There's like sorcerers, then magicians. But they, yeah, there's a dance scene when they first go to meet with the manager and there's Ballet 2000, an incredible future group of futuristic dancers. Which by the way, did you know that the choreography of this was Nigel Lithgow? Oh really? That's Nigel Lithgow from So You Think You Can Dance

choreographed all this. That is amazing. I will say one thing about the choreography. I felt like they had like 15 great dancers and then the rest were like in the background just doing like head bops. Sure. Well basically they just picked people

from the American high school in Berlin and paid them $25 a day. This movie is shot in Germany. Yes, in Berlin. Right. Where is it supposed to take place? Outer space. Cool.

I believe New York. I feel like it's New York. It could have been like Mega City or something, you know, like that. It would have been great if Judge Dredd had been there. There was something with, wait, back in 2000. Isn't it in Canada? No, they're from Canada. They're from Moose Jaw.

But then what I couldn't figure out is Alfie, when he doesn't sign in, he goes back to live with his landlord slash mother that he feels up, is he back in moose jaw? Where is he there? Just to give you guys a little bit of context, all you really need to know is that this American Idol show is going, Bim is trying to get their performer to win. Yes. Mr. Boogalow.

Although I think you raised a good point, which is this group that's performing right now. Yes. Their name is, I don't know what. Not Roger Delfry. No, well they're Pandy and Dandy. Of course, they're Pandy and Dandy. And I think that that, is that the name of their band too?

Pandy and Dandy? Yeah, no. Pandy and Dandy. They're Pandy and Dandy. But I think what you were saying, Paul, it's confusing this contest because it does seem like Bim already represents them. He does. But I think what you were saying, Paul, it's confusing this contest because it does seem like Bim already represents them. He does.

But he's trying to like lock them down. They're performing to try and win the contest, which he manipulates the contest so that they do win. By playing the red tape. By playing the red tape. But now, wait, now I want to talk about this red tape because he's manipulating contests because then I'm just going to have to look at my names here. Then B.B. and Alfie come out, and they're

doing an old-fashioned folk song that people are really moved by. First, people hate it. First, people are like, bring back BAM! Yeah, yeah. I want more BAM! And then they start to love it, because it's really about emotion.

Because it's a love song. They remember they're European and they're suckers for bloodless sentimentality. Oh yeah, right. That's what we appreciate above all. Cuckoo clocks. So they start singing, they're doing well, he plays the red tape, which causes the audience to riot. Now, here's my one thought.

No, we're all so excited. My only thought was this. riot. Now, here's my way, here's my, I'm sorry, one thought is... What else are excited? My only thought is this, so if they're rioting, their heart rate's going up. Right? One would think. I would imagine your heart rate is way more intense. I don't think that's what's being measured. In terms, because you see the clock going down, or the counter rather, because they're losing interest in the act. I thought I said that's a heartbeat monitor.

There was heart rate, but there were other things too. And there was one that was like their enjoyment index. OK. So I don't know if that was, or something like that. There were different levels because he sort of. And how would you measure it? Well, you know what? We can even hear them discussing it right here.

That's what Fitbit is. Fitbit, everybody. It's 1994. We're told that Fitbit. Here is him talking about the heart rates. Boss, we have just scored 150 heartbeats. It's not beats per minute. I predict our beam song is going to take this competition by storm.

Oom-woom-woom-woom-woom-woom. Ashley, prepare some Bim merchandise. Something like Bim t-shirts. T-shirts. Ashley, use your imagination. This is 1994. Oh, thank God he told us. Because I had no idea the other 24 times they tell us.

I felt like throughout this whole movie I was watching a James Bond movie with the villain, but no James Bond. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. He has a major headquarters. But, June, I cut you off. You were saying with the heart. I don't remember. I'm trying to figure out now even watching the beginning again what Mr. Boogaloo was trying to do here with these artists. Boogaloo, I'm so sorry. I think I understand now. I think Boogaloo was trying to get the song to be the national anthem. No, he's just trying to win. Isn't it basically that song contest that still exists? The Eurovision the song contest, that is like a thing, right?

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Anyway, I think that's about as deep as he probably got into it, you know. It was very difficult to figure out why BIM industries held so much sway as to be able to have a law that people needed to wear BIM marks on their goddamn heads. It snuck up. It snuck up on everybody. Where all of a sudden, the officer is going for the sucker head. Now he's basically like a fascistic leader and has taken over and I get it, he's the devil?

I couldn't quite tell if there was an allegory in this movie. But you know what? I have to say, it's a weird way, like as June pointed out to me, like it's an Adam and Eve story, which I didn't really get because the top part- Wait, what? It's about an apple! Right, but- He didn't get it.

But not really. I'm gonna tell tell you guys he didn't get it. What? I'm sorry, Paul, I feel really badly to say that out loud. You can tell me. Because I think the top part was missing. I feel like there was no like that guy who comes in at the end, Mr. Tops, like he should have been at the top of the movie. You're right. Don't eat that apple.

What's up? Yeah. To have been a true... He should have been the other guy. He should have bookended it. He should have been the other manager. Like, stay with me and you'll be okay. And then the devil... Or he could have been the mayor of Moose Jaw.

I would go there. Because they're coming from an idol going into the pits of hell. And he could have been like, you go right ahead. You go to Sodom and Gomorrah, just don't eat that apple. It's as if you picked up the Bible like 50 pages in. You're like, oh, okay. Like, I didn't see the first part of this. Your understanding of the Bible is flawed.

Let me just ask you this, Paul. Let me just ask you this. When you saw that gigantic apple, you just thought, oh, it's an apple. Well, especially that it was being offered by the devil. At that point, I was not paying attention to the logic. I was enjoying the magic. It is very sloppy though, because there's like, what is it, the devil in debt, you know,

the sell your soul for stuff. I felt like that's what I thought it was. I thought it was more like he's selling his soul, but I didn't get like- On poquito Nazi stuff, you know, all of that thrown in there. But I feel like no one, like I wanted to see someone say like, don't sign with that guy. Then I'd be like, okay, now I get it.

Like, I mean, well, I don't know. That sounds dumb as I say it. He was, okay, the guy was like... I get he's a devil. He is like, but he's like not even close to not being the devil. He has horns? Yeah. Got it.

He might as well have cloven hooves for feet. He was a straight up, like classic version of a devil. The triangular beard. But I thought, but I thought more of it, I thought it more of a story about like how the music industry is corrupting artists and music, I thought of it more like that, less of like an Adam and Eve parable. Honestly, in your defense, I think it was so hit

over the head that I think there was a part of you in your mind that was like, well, it can't be this because that's too obvious and I think you were actually looking for something deeper. You know, maybe you're right, June. I'm too smart for this movie. Well, and also you're Hollywood. So you're totally, you don't see past the music business.

You don't need to. No, I'm connecting to art and management and the problems of that. Exactly. I mean, I'm in a daily struggle with that kind of shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Contracts, the legal ease of contracts.

And all that stuff is exactly like life. I mean, it's true. I also am fascinated by movies that take place in the future when they try to figure out what the future is. Like what... And this, it was just bigger. Champagne glasses were bigger. Cameras were bigger. Which seems the opposite of how we've all gone.

What's wrong with the champagne glass that we needed to reinvent? Listen, that is one area. This film does not make one misstep visually. It is a delight for the eyes. That is one area. This film does not make one misstep visually. Yep. It is a delight for the eyes. Yep. It's beautiful. Everything about it is fucking perfect visually.

All of the metallic fabrics, crazy. Everybody's made like crazy nonsense. Well now, I wanna get into the BIM marks too. The BIM marks are, they're not like drugs or anything. Just saying that you're followers of- It's the number of the beast. It's just that dumb. That's it.

It's that dumb. Yeah, you're not like the number of the beast. Okay, yeah. Paul, you should look no further than just the signs and symbols that are in this machine. I can't believe I'm about to- I genuinely can't believe I'm about to say this, but Paul, what do you think was happening?

No, I got, like, I guess I felt like I wanted to see a deeper plan being hatched. Like, I didn't understand what this plan, all right, so it's the devil, he's controlling them, but not really, there's no real plan. Like he's just- But that's just sloppy filmmaking that you're seeing there.

Maybe, yeah. Like when she leaves the apartment and they just go, okay. She's being trapped and she wants to go. And then, and I am, you're expecting some sort of, like they're laying wait for her somewhere, but no, she just goes and has babies in the hippie cave. That's something, that never really paid off.

It was like, I thought, oh, the devil, he wants to put this on them and then he'll activate the BIM marks and then everyone will be like an army. Like I was just expecting more. Like I was waiting for it to pay off. And like you shouldn't just after a couple years be able to just peel it off. Yeah.

It shouldn't be a little more substantive than that. I felt like, and I guess this is the point of Bim Hour and the Bim Marks and all that stuff, is just to show us, by the end of the movie obviously, to show us that the devil has won. He has gotten control over everybody except for the fucking hippies. He has gotten control over everybody except for the fucking hippies. They're fucking playing a flute in the woods and then Mr. Tops comes down at the end and is like, you guys want to scram with me? And everybody, best as I can tell, commits suicide and walks into the sky? It's the hail bot.

Like the hail... This is some like Jonestown shit right here. But it's like, what was that cult that they all wore sneakers and they went up, yeah. Yeah, yeah, the, the, the hell? Yeah, I don't remember. Heaven's Gate. Because it was the same thing, like, he pulled, like, hey, our, our Lord's gonna pull up in the golden Cadillac.

Yeah. And we'll all walk into his car and get out. Alfie was like, he's gonna come, he's gonna come. But then she's like, who's gonna come? Mr. Tops. What? That's what I'm saying. If there's a day when sex machina coming, why hasn't it not, why has it not been mentioned? This character has not been mentioned. God is literally in a machine. It's a Cadillac. This person's coming. I don't know who's it. That means nothing to me. It was

really just, do you know, is there any, like was it tacked on to the end? Like did they? I did do a little research right before the show, so this is my, what I'm giving you is my honest opinion, then I found this, so I will tell you this that. Oh, I'm sorry, am I? No, not at all. This is, I will tell you.

You ruined the show. I guess I did, I'm sorry. No, not at all. I will tell you that this is the, apparently they shot an opening that was disastrous. It was supposed to take place in mr. Tops world heaven it's called creation where he brought Alfie to life and Then he also sang a song to Boogaloo and he fell into the stream and disappears but apparently when they were shooting it they had animals and puppets and

A tiger got loose. Oh, my God. Elephants got their trunks stuck in set pieces. Oh. People wearing a brontosaurus costume passed out from the heat, and no one could dance, and the cameras couldn't move anywhere because the set was so small.

So they cut the entire opening, the biblical opening. A tiger got loose? That's amazing. So no one has ever seen... Hey, have you seen the tiger? Yeah, he said he was going to craft services. Uh-oh, because he's not there. And he's like, uh-oh, because he's not there. The one thing I did like that Mr. Bugolo enforced was the mandated exercise in the middle of the day. That was nice. That was pretty amazing. When I saw that, I was like, that's a cool idea.

Yeah, everybody. Let's all just get up and move our bodies for four minutes. Countdown to BIM hour. No, it wasn't four minutes, it was an hour. It was one hour. They were dancing like that. It was one hour. And wait, let's just-

I gotta say, even better. Yeah, except for the fact that firemen stopped fighting fires, doctors stopped treating patients. People died during BIM hour, just so that the living could have some calisthenic workout. Yeah. And they're already wearing Mylar jumpsuits that can't be good to work out in. Well, I want to show some of BIM hour here. Again, just picture everyone that does everything

in your life stopping to dance. So this is the dance break at BIM hour. Attention, please, good citizens. It is now one minute to four o'clock. So this is the dance break at BIM hour. Attention please, good citizens. It is now one minute to four o'clock. Time to stop ordinary activities and prepare for the national BIM hour. All traffic must...

Oh, the cars are fucking awesome. Everybody's so stoked. Firemen, slow down their hoses. Join in the national fitness program. Stop fighting the fire, guys. Citizens, attention. Counting down to BIM hour. Old people, stop eating.

Operating room. Putting colors back to it. Oh, gotta, one. What is that? Hey, hey, hey, there's only way. Hey, hey, hey, there's only way. OK, and these are the only lyrics. There's only way.

Hey, hey, hey, there's only way. Everyone's dancing. Hey, hey, hey, there's only way. I don't know how they got the hope. Hey, hey, hey, Bims on the way. Everyone's dancing. Hey, hey, hey, Bims on the way. I don't know how they got the hope. Hey, hey, hey, Bims on the way. The patient isn't even dancing and then dies. Hey, hey, hey, Bims on the way. Nuns are not dancing and then, boom, they break out.

Like perfectly choreographed. Well, perfectly is tough to say in this movie. But, hey, hey, hey, Bims on the Way are the only lyrics to this song, presumably, that lasts for one hour. Which as far as I'm concerned, would make society go insane. That's true. I do want to just go back to one thing. Again, if that folk singer, right, the one that he corrupts.

Bibi? Bibi is her name. one that he corrupts... Bibi? Bibi is her name. Bibi and Alfie. Bibi and Alfie. If Bibi and Alfie were so good, why is he trying to create her as like a pop star when he just tried to capture her folk music? I think in some ways he may have felt threatened by her. Yeah, I think that's right.

Well, what is, what is, he's watching them and they're about to beat Tandy and Bandy or whatever. And then they do beat them and he's like, they've got talent, they're good, whatever. What is unclear to me is why doesn't he let them sing love songs because clearly that works. That's what I'm saying. It's like saying like watching Michael Jordan or you know, or Stephon Curry. I didn't call him Stephon. You're a big sports guy, right? Yeah, a huge sports guy. Huge. Very heavy into sports. Like, just be good at basketball and say, oh, now let's let them play like croquet.

Like, it didn't make sense. Well, I think too that their songs and their music was so beautiful and such, you know, like, that yeah, it's like, you know, God, that's of God. And he must crush that out. So it's almost like disco, disco is like killing society. So more disco, more disco. Disco is the work of the devil. Absorb them into the disco monster.

Like you can't have the hippie shit out there. No, no. Because that makes people think. It makes people feel too, like, oh yeah, then all those, all those like trite cliches really are carrying me away. Well that's the thing is the devil, disco is the devil's music, you know, so all of his agents have to be disco singers. And God's people are the hippies. Didn't you think that the hippie with the beard was God? Yes. Yeah, they are played by the same guy. Whoa.

What? What? When were you gonna share this piece of information? This unlocks everything. We did meet God earlier. Yeah. Huh. Wait.

They are played by the same guy. Yeah, they are played by the same guy, but I didn't think, but he's not. That. Wait. They are played by the same guy. They are played by the same guy, but I didn't think... But he's not... That makes sense. But he wouldn't know him as Mr. Topps, though. That's the guard of this Eden. That's why he's able to be amongst his people without being Mr. Topps. And they talk to each other.

They share the same screen. Yeah, he's like, how about you, hippie dude? Go first. All right. Here I go. So that is confusing. Yeah, that is definitely confusing. No, he's like, how about you hippie dude, go first. All right, here I go. So that is confusing, yeah, that is definitely confusing. No, that's like, they just, no, that was just probably, it was cheaper. When they cut that first scene, they're like,

oh shit, we gotta figure out something to justify what this other guy's doing. We gotta make this make sense, because that's paramount. I got missed the tops for three weeks. I'm worried. You're the king of the hippies. I'm worried this isn't gonna add up. And am I right in saying that both the male leads

in this movie, not the devil, but the hunky guys, both look like Roger Daltry? Yes. They both have similarities. And the girl falls victim to him very quickly. Within seconds, he gives her, he drugs her. Wait, what do you want me to do? Put this in my mouth?

Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, what is it? It's a pill? Okay, let's do it. Everybody's like, okay. Which I could not for the life of me figure out. Because she's like, they come, Bibi and Alfie come to the party after losing the contest,

and Mr. Boogaloo immediately separates them with Bandy and Tandy. Yeah, whatever. And then shit just goes crazy, and why is everybody able to look at Roger Daltry seduce Bibi? Right? That was all so like for everybody's. But then they all laughed.

And then they all laughed at them like, ha ha ha ha you got seduced by this guy like pretty easy you let him take you right to the peeping spot yeah the pre-designated peeping spot that we wait downstairs we've all we've watched you be corrupted back up six inches Back up six inches. There's also something here too that I just realized. The story was originally set in 1984 because of Orwellian themes,

but then Golan decided, oh, that's too close, let's go to 94. But that kind of loses the Orwellian theme because you don't immediately just think, all things in four, like 2004. Yeah, yeah, it's like the 84. That's a real shitty way to do it. Did everybody, did everybody see Matilda May? Matilda, what was her name, from Life Force? Was Matilda May in this?

I thought so. She is a dancer in this movie. From Life Force. Wait, did nobody see that? I saw her, I saw her. You did? Wait, no, you didn't see Life Force. No, there was an actress I saw in this movie

who is from General Hospital and also from- That's her staying alive, Fenola Hughes. Staying alive. Oh, Fenola Hughes. No, who are you talking about? They look similar. Wait, am I wrong? No, Fenola Hughes is in this movie.

Fenola Hughes is definitely in this movie. Yeah, I couldn't, No, Fenola Hughes is in this movie. Fenola Hughes is definitely in this movie. Yeah, I couldn't, I thought it was her, but maybe not. Because it would make sense, because Life Force and this movie are both canon films. Oh, maybe she was in it. I'm almost, somebody, come on nerds, you fucking assholes. I thought for sure you guys were going to be on my side on this. I'm now IMDb-ing it. Um...

Wait, is Life Force that movie where, like, a beautiful woman turns into a killing machine on the hot tub? Yeah, she's like a... She... No, no, no, that's... That's, um, Species. Okay, that's what I'm thinking. And Natasha Hendritch. Life Force I haven't seen. Uh, Life Force you should see.

It's pretty much the same idea. It's just a woman from space who's naked the entire movie, uh, sucking the life out of men, yeah. Okay. I would love to talk about the ghetto and that place where they lived and the woman that was his roommate mother. What was going on there?

So strange. That lady, the landlady, is the only person that curses in the movie. OK, I'm wrong. She wasn't in it. Sorry. God damn it.

Sorry. Let's get back to this woman, because I was impressed. She's only credited as Alfie's landlady. She has no other name. No name. Alfie's landlady. That's sad for her. She kind of looked.

There was something familiar about her. Oh, she's Professor Sprout from Harry Potter? Oh, wow. That's why she looked familiar. Whoa, I was off all over this movie. That's, I should have known that. Miriam Ragolles. It was the moment where he grabbed her boobs.

See, I missed that, cause, you know, I was, nah, I'm sorry people. I missed him groping his landlady. No, I'm watching this on a laptop at home in pieces with children running around. Yeah. It's neat to see this movie. It's also a movie that you check out for moments. I would say there's a couple moments like, oh, I'm still watching something. Oh, fuck yes.

No, there were like, I took a leak in the middle of songs. Cause it's just, I don't need to see it. There was a couple of times I got confused because I would check out for a second. So I would rewind and be like, oh, I didn't miss anything. This is just a confounding series of scenes.

Well, their relationship, I was like, I thought it was his mother. Yes. I didn't think it was his landlady, but then they were like, like an Airbnb situation, because they seem like they're really in the same room. There's no like upstairs, downstairs. Right, right, when she goes to cook,

it's just like in a nook, like an attached nook. It's own suite. She advertises it a sec. And she's keeping, he's been keeping her awake writing amazing songs. Yeah. And he'll grab her boobs just to goose her a little to not get away with not paying the rent.

You know how it is. He owes her rent, but he's like, oh don't worry, I'm gonna sell this song. And she's like, I know you're gonna sell this song. And then he's like, ha ha, rubba rubba rubba. And he like, gives her like a real reach around boob massage which I was into but but also that's what I was like what is the relationship here where are we are we back in moose jaw what's happening

well it also seemed like they were parts of the city, like that was a very poor, like it looked like, you know, like a very like co-op city or something like that. It was a very like poor area. It was like a tenement house. A tenement house. They were living in together. But then other parts of the city were very rich. So I didn't know, but these people are also followers of BIM.

They didn't seem to get any of that trickle down economic. Everybody's a follower of Bim by the end, including all these dummies. And that's... I like to think that that was like a very specific direction by Menaka Golan, like walking through the blocking of it. And he goes, and then, you know, like you do with your mom, you grab her boobs.

If anybody... And everyone goes, no, just do it. Trust me. What do you know? You're not a boy. If anybody hasn't seen it yet, there's an amazing documentary on Netflix about Canon films. It's amazing. The company that made all these movies and it's fantastic and the guys that created it are amazing characters. Well, I'll just give you like a little backstory in this movie. The writers conceived the Apple as a three act Hebrew stage musical about God and the devil,

but their vision was deemed too elaborate and costly to execute on stage. They showed it to Golan, who convinced him to turn it into an English language screenplay. Then they determined that that vision wouldn't work as a film so they scrapped the story and 17 songs then Gollin Rewrote the script He rewrote the script added this landlady character Who was not ever in this movie and then just hired someone else to write the lyrics So this is like a photocopy of a photocopy.

They threw away the photocopy, wrote a new thing and then photocopied that. This movie makes Starlight Express look like Hamilton. You know, though, I do think this movie, there is an earnestness to this movie. I don't feel like this is just some cynical, you know, just sort of like, I will do some knockoff shit like some other shit. I feel like they were trying to say a lot. Oh yeah.

And I remember there was some at the top of the IMDB trivia there was, when it opened in Khan, people started booing and leaving halfway through and Menachum Golan went back to his hotel room when he was about to jump out the window. Yes. When his business partner barged in and stopped him. And it's like, holy shit, this guy was serious. The whole, like, he was, this is not a laugh to him. No, this is a big deal.

This movie had a very mixed reception. They handed out soundtracks at one point to the audience, and at the end of the movie, they threw them at the screen and punctured the screen. I get it. I would have. I would have. This movie is shockingly bad.

In a way though that is, that you're right, is so sincere and is so serious. What they're trying to do, I can tell, is so serious, but it is so not getting there. It is such a disappoint, it falls so short. It's serious in theme,

but never goes deeper than surface. Right? I feel like it's like... Well, you missed it, so... Yeah. I guess, right. Touche. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

This is what the people pay for. You two going at it. Paul? I've never heard the June chant in the show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh yeah.

That's a real victory right there. I would like to talk about the song... Oh. ...coming for you. It is... It is my theory... Do you have this by any chance? I do not a huge it is my theory that this is the song and video That the grandfather was watching in the Star Wars holiday special

This is what inspired that Pseudo porn was this actual porn. This was one of the most graphically disturbing songs Yes. that I had ever. Sex production numbers. Yeah. I mean, I wrote down some of the lyrics. I want to drain every drop of your love.

I'll take it deeper. I'll make it tighter coming just for you. I like, I like picturing you as a shrink reading back notes. Well you did say. And this again is a scene that features someone who has been drugged to make them pliable for sex. What's interesting about this too is the next morning, I don't know if this is Pandy who's singing the song. Yes. Pandy is the male.

Oh, the Dandy. No, Dandy, it's Dandy. I think Dandy is the, I want to tell you what's, what is doing in this movie. It was Pandy, Pandy is the girl, Grace Kennedy. Is the girl, I'm sorry, my mistake. So the next morning, Pandy comes to BB and says,

you know, you have to go back and get Alfie. You have to, you have to. So- He loves you. He loves you. But here's what's interesting about Pandy's turn in the movie. It seems as though because Alfie wouldn't have sex with her,

although I think they, I don't know what- They definitely had sex. They definitely had sex. Oh yeah. Whoa. Sorry. I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure.

She wanted to drink every drop of it. How do you like that, June? How do you like that? Okay. Whoa. Sorry. June. I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. She wanted to drink every drop of it. How do you like that, June? How do you like that? But it seemed as though she was, I don't know how to put this, but she was either offended that he wasn't that into it or because he ran away at the end. That's not, you know what?

That could be, it could be that he wasn't able to perform. Yes. Something happens at the end of their love making. That re, I'm sorry? He says BB. He says BB, that's right. So with all her moves. You guys really watched this.

We've all been there, right? The best, I mean they come with their BIM marks, they're not fucking around. Please, please, you guys are gonna leave tonight, some of you are gonna have sex with each other when you come say, BeBe. Right. Please, please, just do it.

Just do it. I just want... Just look into each other's eyes and say, huh, BeBe? I want everyone just to post pictures of them with these BIM marks, but make no reference to the BIM marks. I just wanted to take over.

Just put in your BIM marks and say, Bebe, take pictures, put it online. Let's get weird everybody. Go to work with your BIM marks on. Here's my question. Was Pandy working on her own here or was she sent to do this by Mr. Boogaloo? I think she was, yeah, I think she was trying to seduce him for Mr. Boogaloo the way that not Roger Daltrey seduced Bibi.

Right, the way Dandy seduced Bibi. No? Yeah, Mr. Boogaloo was supposed to, yeah. Right, but then she felt guilty about it and helped Bibi escape instead, knowing that she would then suffer the consequences. Yeah, she told Bulldog the bodyguard. To let him go.

Bulldog seemed like the most uncomfortable guy. Just a bigger man and just like metal. Like a loose, steady metal. And like big inserted teeth to make him look like a bulldog. But here's the thing, Pandy never suffered any consequences. I thought she was gonna be killed. She wasn't. When they arrived at that forest, she was there just like the rest of them.

Yeah, she was there. Yeah, yeah. What, Pandy escaped? Oh, she was with them. No, no, she just... She was just there. There are also two is a little foreshadowing at the end of the first big party sequence when Bebe goes off to her own room after I think it's maybe after that speed song. Oh I love that speed song. And she goes off to her own room like you know Dandy tries to get her to party with the giant Kool-Aid

vases filled with Kool-Aid and and then she goes to bed and he turns to Pandy and she takes the glasses with Kool-Aid and smart ass drops him on the ground. So I think that was where we got a sense that she was a rebel. Right. That she was standing up to do the low. I also couldn't figure out, okay,

when Alfie has been drugged and he bone zones Pandy and then he's like, oh, I gotta get out of here. Then he gets into a room with Bibi and not Roger Daltrey. And she's like, who are you? Get out, does that happen? No, that was in his mind. That was imaginary? And why does he have these flashes?

Why is he special that he's able to see all that stuff? Yeah, I couldn't figure that out either. Why is he having some sort of clairvoyance to be able to understand the earthquake and that this is the devil and the ba-ba-ba? Right, and again, even a title card would help me get some of this. Yeah. I think they were just trying to subtly say that he's Mormon because it comes very naturally to Mormon people. Maybe you're

right. Yeah. I'm just, it could be. So the Mormons take the world probably not a stretch it sounds terrible yeah it sounds Lutheran moose jaw I feel like moose just right above Lake Wobbock I was a Garrison Cue like breathing into his like Tom and Tom Ville Chris was handy and dandy rr, rr, rr, rr. Pandy and dandy. Um, June, I wanna... All of our Garrison Keelers are flawless. I mean, people listening right now thought like, oh, we switched out of a Prairie Home Companion.

We kill the Prairie Home Companion audience. Yeah. June, I wanna tell you something, I just looked at the taglines of this movie, and here we go. It's 1994, the future is music, and music is the future. That's one tagline. But the other tagline is, the power of rock, the magic of space. So maybe it did take place in space after all. Space Berlin, space Germany, with like a very short monorail.

A very short monorail and like Soviet style buildings and then like a hippie cave. I think that actually this, we wouldn't even be talking about this movie if it hadn't been made in Berlin like it is just soaked to the bone with German weirdness that just totally really makes it stand out I think. Well let's go to the audience let's have them ask some questions and if you're more interested in finding out about the Apple you can read Blake Harris's article over on slash film you can just check Harris's article over on Slash Film. You can just check that out right now.

He got in with a lot of the people from the film. So, all right, raise your hand if you have a question. When they have their child, while you're walking over, Paul, when they have their child who's a year old, I guess. Right. Well. That happened so fast. So fast.

This is an example. He's supposed to be two months old, and that child is enormous. Yeah. That's another example of when I looked away for a minute. He's supposed to be two months old. And that child is enormous. Yeah. That's another example of when I looked away for a minute. I looked back, and the guy had a beard, and they had a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

For a second, I was like, is that the same guy? Yeah. Yeah. I think maybe hippie babies grow big underground. Possibly. It's the lack of light. Hippie babies grow big underground. Possibly. It's the lack of light. Hippie babies grow big underground. Where are BIM people?

Let's talk to our BIM people first. Oh, they're everywhere. Come on over here, BIM person. Your question, what would you call this movie? Your name, what would you call this movie? And your question. Here we go. Oh, boy.

Just the mark of the BIM. I don't really know what that is. I like that. Mark of the BIM is good. My question is, does anyone else think that this was actually filmed in an empty airport hanger? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Apparently the audience really agreed with you. Well, there's definitely, like I started to mention the dance sequence with Ballet 2000. And you can see, and the dancing in that particular scene

You're I was noticing in shots. They weren't really moving much and then you see oh, they're like on Convention Center short at short carpet like they're having to do a big like it's like you can't do a dance number on Convention Center carpet you've always said that carpet. You've always said that. Yeah, I've always said that. I'm like, and you better accept that or you better get the hell out of this studio, honey. By the way, I thought that was a performance by Ballet 2000, but then that wouldn't explain why Mr. Boogaloo is also performing with Ballet 2000 and he's about to sign that. I was like, oh, because this is a movie that does that weird thing where there's music being performed and then there's musical numbers. And that's always confusing to me because it's like, is this

in the mind or is this in a real musical performance? I didn't know if Ballet 2000 was performing or not. I just say go with it, man. All right. Your name, your title of the movie, and your question. Justin, title of the movie would be true Hollywood stories, Alfie and BB. Ooh, I like it. And the question is more of like a comment, but going off of what June is saying, they do reference the fact that it needs to, they need to transfer this to a different planet in that ending sequence with Mr.

Tops and with Mr. Boogaloo or Bugalo or whatever his name is like about how they're gonna have to go start over in a new planet without him so maybe God learned his lesson with this incarnation so a are we the new planet no I think we abandoning Earth to the devil. Is it Earth? Yeah. Is it Earth? That's Earth, yeah. Prequel for after Earth. Prequel for after Earth.

You're gonna get this cup. It says, no dad is better than no dad. Yes! Yes! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! All right, sir.

Your name, your title for your movie, and your question. My name is Tim. My title, Jesus Christ Superstar the prequel and Did you guys notice how in this movie unlike most movies? All of the women are dressed pretty like respectively and covered up and all of the men We're just naked for a lot of that like during the Apple see that is like the women The women are wearing a lot of like like bigics and like silver metallic tunics and stuff. And the guys are pretty much nudesville.

I didn't notice that but yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, they're all like... Remember the orgy? Yeah. Orgy and all the dudes are like straight up in like a couple of pieces of rope. Yeah. And the women are all covered up. Like during the snake, he likes to show you what his dick looks like the entire film.

During the apples, like where she bites the apple, she's wearing a dress. And like, the guy who's Adam is like in the thong. You know what? Isn't she more provocatively dressed? And then Mr. Boogaloo is like, pink, and she's wearing a more modest dress? Yeah? It's the future. It's the future.

It's the future and I look forward to it. Wow. I look forward to it. Wow. Wow. I always appreciate people with handwritten notes. You have a lot of handwritten notes here. Okay, your name, your title, your question.

Name is Alexis. I got a real like Tommy vibe and the Roger Daltrey thing was totally on point. So, Bimball Wizard. Yeah. Ooh, I like that. Bimball is in the movie. Ashley, the marketing guru, does create Bimball.

There's also Bimburger. Ooh, Bimburger, yes. I'm sorry, I'm gonna say Bimbender's the director. I've been hit with microphones. All right, your question. So yeah, I wanted to bring up, I'm a former journalist and so I really related to Joe Pittman. Oh, I wrote that about, I wanna talk about Joe Pittman so much. I forgot about him.

Remember that name. Joe Pittman. All right, the intrepid reporter from the Daily Post. And I actually was wondering if you guys could sort of unpack how this movie may have been fairly prescient about the crisis that newspaper reporters were going to go through. Are you saying that Mr. Boogalow is Rupert Murdoch? Exactly. Exactly.

I like where you're going, Alexis. I like where you're going. I actually like Joe Pittman because Joe Pittman reminded me of Mark Ruffalo in Spotlight. He's like really kind of meek, but asking the hard questions. I don't know, Mr. Buckeloff. I just think that... Mr. Buckeloff, people are saying you might be the devil. I don't know.

Stay right here. I'm going to get you a special prize. Yeah, that is it. Is it Rupert Murdoch? I guess, I mean, maybe it could be. The guy that played that too, I noticed, because I saw that the lyrics were written by George Clinton and I was like, no fucking way is that George Clinton writing some of these lyrics.

And then I looked at, I just cross-referenced it somewhere and it was George S. Clinton who played that guy. That guy that played that reporter was the lyricist for the whole JAS. Oh wow. That's amazing. He's George S. Clinton. Sure, I'll write you songs. I just want to be in it.

He was scoring previous Golden Globus ninja movies and that's how he got in with it. I love the canon films, the canon of canon films. I mean Golan directed 46 movies I believe, like Over the Top being one of them and I think every movie that they made he pretty much directed or 46 is a lot and probably none of them made over $134,000. Yes, your name, your title of your movie, and your question. Hi, my name's Andrew. I guess, dude, where's my bib? Whoa, all right. I would have gone, Bim, where's my car?

Bim, where's my car? My question is around accents. Were they a direct choice? Great question. Because everyone had a different accent. Everyone had a different accent. You have an accent. Well, you do have an accent.

I'm glad you said it, right? So, oh, surprise, surprise, you wanna talk about accents. Hey, no narcissists at our shows. Your question is, can we talk about me for a minute? You're the worst. I will say Alfie's accent came and went. It was here, it was there. When he was putting it on?

I'm sorry. No, he was, no, do you When he was putting it on? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, he was, no, do you think he was putting it on? Where was he from? No, I don't. He's Scottish. He is, he's Scottish. Yeah, yeah, so I think he just was watering down a Scottish accent.

No, because that guy, it was like, or maybe I'm thinking of Pandy. He's from the Boondocks. Yeah, that's what he said. He wasandy. He's from the Boondocks. Yeah, that's what he said. He was like, I'm from the Boondocks. That's what they said about him. Guys, don't fight. Remember, you love each other. Is anyone from the Boondocks that can talk to us? Wait, he was on the TV show, The Boondocks? I'm just gonna make this even more complicated. The accents were terrible,

from the weird kind of European, Frenchy kind of Mr. Boogaloo is clearly French, right? And he speaks Italian and German as well. The devil has a many-faceted tongue. Right, but I feel like his resting accent was Frenchy. Right? Yes, I had a hard time understanding him. He's Polish. Is he? Yes. Interesting.

Yes, your question. Your name of the movie and your question. Christine, LeMay All Day. And I had a revelation earlier when I thought about Bibi doing her speed video she reminded me so much of Kesha from the bad hair and the eye makeup. And the metallic triangles too. Right? Do you think Kesha ripped off this movie?

Wow. Wow. That would be amazing. We need to take Kesha to task. Yeah. Is Kesha here? Hashtag Kesha, we know what you did. I would say cut Kesha some slack.

I would say I'm appreciative of Kesha of more than I ever thought. Now she's going into the Apple to kind of pull it. I love that speed one, speed video. I thought was Best I was gonna say that's the best. Yep, just pure song. I would legit listen to that song like while running for my life, right Well, and it works so great too because it's well, what's the song about? Speed. Well is it about anything else? America? Just those two things?

Yeah, just those two things. Oh, alright, sounds good. So that makes it a much more complex song than all the others, which are about one thing. One of them is coming. Right. Hey, hey, hey. Here comes the Bim. I do feel like the-

Here comes the Bim? No, Bim's on its way. Bim's on its way, sorry. Bim's on the way. I don't know, to do what? Maybe it's like Apple. Crush out all individuality? I mean, it could be like a Steve Jobs thing too.

Like we're all so into that. We logo ourselves. In 1979? Yeah. All right. A time traveler came back to warn us of our future. I feel like. That line barely made it to the stage.

You cast it so weakly. Ha ha ha. And blah, blah, blah. Yes. So your name, your question. Your name, your your title and your question. I'm David. My title would be Escalator to Heaven. And was I the only one that noticed all their vehicles, how much they look like the car

that Homer Simpson designed? Another cultural ripoff. Simpsons ripped off the apple. I don't put that above the writers of the Simpsons to have an homage to the Apple in there. I feel like they do a lot of stuff like that. Oh, sir with a notebook up. I'll take a notebook, sir. All right, sir. Oh, I hope it's the notebook from the movie. Your name, your title, and your question. My name's Jason. Yeah! That guy gets it. How you doing? Doing good.

I haven't seen you in any of the meetings. My title. I haven't seen you in any of the meetings. Alright, okay, you're gonna blow me off? Dick move, bro. Now I know why you haven't been invited. My title would be The Crapple. And I was just wondering, which do you think is a better workout? The Bim Hour or the Jamie Lee Curtis Sports Connection workout from Perfect? They're very similar. Oh

They're very similar. They have a lot of I mean, I almost say they're identical really No, Jamie Lee Curtis that you know that whole thrusting thing is really this is just a lot of like like Raising of the arms and kicking. Yeah. Yeah, I would say this is more lot of like raising of the arms and kicking of the legs. I would say this is more cardiovascularly sound than the Jamie Lee Curtis one. Really? A lot of these songs I think have their roots in just children's, like German work marches. So they're very simple. They're meant to be going off to the woods for light manufacturing. Yeah.

That's what the people in the Coke factory are doing. I'm working on a machine. Like I don't think anybody's getting in shape during the BIM hour. Jason, it is an hour of dancing. You are getting, it's an hour of dancing. Perhaps. Alright, I mean let's see. Half of, let's see. Half of us agree. Half of you go on the Jamie Lee Curtis workout.

Half of you guys go on the app, the Bim Hour, and we'll come back in a month. And we'll see how we did. All right, sir. Your name, your title, and your question. Come to me. Here we go. Hi, I'm Charles. My name would be, you can't understand what I'm saying, but don't worry because you'll

forget it instantly because there's no melody. It's a very long title, like the Birdman title. My question is, do you think that there was a production meeting where they said, hey, who has. No. Who has. Do you think there was a production meeting,

question mark, should be it. And the answer, no. Do you think there was a meeting where they said, hey, what have you seen and what are you going to see? Because we have the cars from Ghostbusters. We have half the people dressed in X-wing fighter jumpsuits. And we have the 1984 themes. And we have the Star Wars Cantina scene.

When they go to the lobby, they show the closeupup of the clown it's like the cantina scene where like there's all the freaks just no there's you're saying there's no defining link to any of these wardrobe they like seem to take from everything how about when the tall guy becomes the small guy remember when that happened no what do you wait in the in the in the lobby of BIM Industries. Like, there's a tall guy walking around and then he goes behind a thing and a little guy comes out

and it's like, what? Why are there clowns? That to me also, though, says something very powerful, which is clowns are agents of the devil. Well, we know you have an issue with clowns. Well, now I'm thinking that there were other departments at BIM. Clowning, clowning, clowning, yeah. We're the largest music and clowning conglomerate in the world.

And also large fruit manufacturing. Who has a really good question? Who thinks they have a really good question? Oh my gosh. I need these apples bigger. We make large pieces of fruit and vegetables for trade shows, etc. On the roof is our giant orchard. And Paul, quick question for you. When you were watching the movie, were you ever thinking back on the title and wondering? Did you think... Wait.

Ooh. I have a question. Paul. You're really slamming me. Yeah. Paul, did you think the movie took place in New York because it was the Apple? Yeah. Yeah! Yeah! These are really good questions. I'm going to say when I saw the apple, I was impressed with the size of the apple.

You've been saying to me the whole week, we're watching the apple, we're watching the apple. The apple's on Amazon, gotta watch the apple. I was just saying it like that. This is a real window into your lives. Yes! I'm like, I didn't run around the house. Don't forget, we're watching the apple.

I heard the phrase the apple so many times. It sounds like you have a child running, the apple, the apple, the apple. I wasn't phrase the apple so many times. Sounds like you have a child running. The apple, the apple, the apple. I wasn't saying, I was not running around the house proclaiming the apple is on Amazon. Hey, hey June, I'm at the supermarket. I definitely think I thought the apple, I... I'm so happy. I got more, I think I... I... I... I...

I... I got more, I think I was just seeing it at face value, which is like, I got the idea that the devil was like, bite into this apple, but I didn't see someone telling him not to do it. I, I still, I still am cutting you some slack. Thank you. It's such a sloppy execution of the Adam and Eve,

Garden of Eden metaphor because there's no fucking heaven to start, you know, there's no Eden to start out with. That's what I'm saying, you didn't see anything before it. We just go right to the snakes already won, you know. Alright, your name, your title of the movie and your question. My name is Kathleen, the title I have no idea, like Appledew or something. Appledew? Appledew. Like Xanadu? Alright, great. Alright, but with apples. The title I have no idea like Apple do or something Apple do

Like Xana do All right, but apples Okay, so at the end like mr. Tops comes and he's like, okay, I'm leaving this place and so Arguably it becomes like hell on earth because the devil's there but like the landlady mom tit lady She's still she didn't make it to the hippie refugee camp So like arguably all these pretty nice people are just left on hell on earth because they didn't make it to the Cadillac in the sky Yep, and what happened so what's your point? Yep? Fuck them bro fuck yeah, sorry

It's a really dark ending of the movie that I didn't think about. There's hundreds, thousands, millions of people. God abandons Earth with max 30 people. Max. Max. And it's like- That's what the apocalypse will be just as lazy and just as half-assed. That's what the leftovers was.

It's just 30 people disappear and everybody's like, are you serious? I think we are super fucked. And arguably, like those 30 people you wouldn't really miss because they were just like weirdo hippies. Like they had nothing to bring. Although our terrible jam band music festivals would be empty. You fucking idiots. We've talked about the end a lot, but I figure let's hear a little bit of Mr. Tops and the Devil talking.

Oh yeah. Because this is a great scene right here. The devil, sorry, the god is Mr. Topps, is coming from his golden Cadillac in the sky and we'll just hear a little bit of this. Slowly walking with no, and then appears. Who the hell are you? They call me Mr. Topps. Sergeant, arrest that man. They call me Mr. Thomas. Sergeant, arrest that man. I can't. What do you mean you can't? I can't. My legs, I'm paralyzed.

Come and join us. All of you. The deficit is powerless here. They all just walk away. The car drives away without anybody. It's just confusing. The car's like I'm leading the way. Oh, is that it? Okay, that makes sense. The car's saying follow me. Got way. Oh, is that it? Okay, that makes sense.

Car's saying follow me. Got it. Okay, I get it. Tops, wait a minute. Where do you think you're taking them? I don't know yet. I'm looking for a new place. A new planet? If I can find one free from your pollution. Don't tell me you're going to start all over again. But this time without you.

Without me? But my dear Tops, you know that it's impossible. The world simply cannot exist without me. Let's give it a try. And then Mr. Tops walks away. And I will say that I think the takeaway I got from this movie was that disco is really bad. Yes! I mean that's really what that is at the whole movie. Really, Paul? That was your takeaway? Disco is bad. I also thought when he came down he said, my name is Mr. Tibbs. Which I thought was like maybe a reference to the...

They call me Mr. Tibbs. That would be amazing if a white character came down and said they call me Mr. Tibbs. Oh, I will say I did have a little bit of a problem. When all of the black characters were singing about the devil, he knows how to be a master. Oh, yeah, that was tricky. Oh yeah.

I had some real problems with that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I checked out for that. That was like, I don't like this part. I don't care for this. I'm on board with everything else but this part. No, no. No, no, no.

Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions. Now, last time we did a live show, I asked if someone here has composed a song they can sing it. I will give you that chance. Cowards. You cowards. All right. Well, then if you all want to make up your own lyrics to it right now, I'll count to three and all of you guys try to sing it once here we go one two three great you really use you guys start strong and then it just goes to shit

they could have just sang the Bim song really and just say second opinion second opinions All right, here we go. These are five-star reviews cold from Amazon This is by Sid Cindy Wegman the movie. I don't understand it personally, but my husband loves it The music is wonderful and I would like to get that CD for myself personally. Five stars. Personally. Hey, hey, babe, are you on Amazon right now?

Oh, cool. Will you just write a review for the Apple and tell them I love it? I don't get it, but I love the CD. I'd just like to see my husband happy. Finally. He's had a tough year. Shingles, you know. Anyway, I don't get it. This is written by CPA.

CPA wrote this. I have been trying to get a hold of this movie for years. I was one of the dancers, and it was a really funny experience to make. And we could all not stop laughing at the rushes It was an Israeli film crew a British cast and filmed in Berlin I can't wait to see it again and do the BIM. I always thought it would be a cult movie five stars

Seems like she's waiting for it to to become Seems like she's waiting for it to become. And now finally, this one I think, I mean it's obviously written in jest, but it's so well written I wanted to read it from Tim Edstrom. The apple is a merciless depiction of Neo Eden, flawless in its presentation. Brilliant Israeli director Golan is the master of his craft. When, uh, uh, when, uh, when, uh, wait, why am I, how do you, uh, wait, what's the scientist, Copernicus? Copernicus, yes.

Well, I'm sorry. When Copernicus first asserted that the sun, not the earth, was the center of the universe, he attained immediate pariah sadist. Yet time proved that he was correct and a brilliant visionary. Those who disparaged this starkly beautiful film are those who disparaged Copernicus. immediate pariah sadist, yet time proved that he was correct and a brilliant visionary. Those who disparaged this starkly beautiful film are those who disparaged Copernicus

so many years ago. Witness and myopic in their worldview, Golan has created a world that is uncanny in its residence to today's post-Clintonian United States, where corporations choose what music we'll enjoy and where police officers break into dance, a subversive symbol of the racial injustice that is today's police force. Dancing nuns. Who are these dancing cops? Nostradamus would be proud that Golan could foresee

way back in 1980, the dance around the facts of child molestation within the Catholic Church. This is truly a tour de force of film verite in its own brilliant pitless way. The apple evokes our own age in its quest for glitter and success. The apple does not moralize over the fate of the beautiful Mr. Bugalo who loves so unwisely,

although his last song is thoroughly chilling, commenting on his life and the world in which he lived. 1980. Wow. Five stars. That is concerning. So as the people who are criticizing Copernicus, does that make us the church?

Yeah, that's it. Amazing. Guys, and so I just want to be clear on one thing. This is kind of an Adam and Eve thing, right? Yes. Cool. Yes. Just want to make sure.

Kind of. Anything that we hadn't talked about that anyone wants to bring up? Oh, I'm sure there's stuff we're forgetting. I just can't remember, but yeah, no, we're good. All right. I feel like we definitely covered a lot of it. And let's get into plugs. What do we want to plug here?

Andy, anything you'd like to plug? No. Jason? Not really. June? Nah. Well, just follow us on Twitter at HDTGM. Please wear your bims out there.

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