How Did This Get Made? - The Fast and the Furious LIVE! (w/ Seth Rogen)

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

Seth Rogen joins the HDTGM Fast Family to go back to the franchise's inception with 2001's The Fast and the Furious, a movie where the big villain is a scared trucker trying to save his VCRs. LIVE from Largo in LA, they cover Dom & Letty's romantic motorboat, the cops' cappuccino obsession, the origins of Race Wars, and the difference between wet and dry NOS. Plus, Seth shares F&F producer Neal Moritz's lesson on "logic vs. cool" and June reveals she had no idea that Brian used to be a cop.  Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

For those who live life, one quarter of a mile at a time. Let's go ménager. We saw the fast and the furious. So you know what that means. All right. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Hello, people of Earth and hello, people of Largo. We are here in Los Angeles going back to where it all started, Toretto, 2001. The country was in disarray and this movie brought us all back. I bet that if you went up to anyone as they left the theater, they would be shocked if you said, in 2023, they'll still be making these movies. What is shocking about this movie? Well, a lot of things.

They're not superheroes. Cars act like cars. The team is smaller, but yet still robust. We'll get into all the specifics of it, but surprise, surprise, Paul Walker is a cop who is embedded in the LA automotive scene to find out who is behind the hijacking of big rigs full of, you guessed it, DVD, TV, combo players. This operation is a joint FBI, LAPD operation. Brian is going under with the best name of all time.

I'll get it. I don't even want to touch on it what his alias is in this movie. We'll get into all of it and we will talk about where these characters started and it will be maybe with you journey and figure out where they go. Without any further ado, please welcome to the stage my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzuchess. What's up, jerks? What's up, family? That's right, Largo, this is my family.

Welcome Jason. I would have worn my shirt. You know, I just pulled it out. I am in my... I noticed you still got the sleeves on it. You know, yeah. Well, we're going back to the original Fast and Furious, where sleeves were still around for the most part.

When we get the Fast 10, sleeves have been eliminated. It is. This, what a quaint time to spend with the fast crew. This really is. This was a delight. I cannot wait. It was like watching a one-act play. It was like watching a small indie movie.

And I got to say, impressed with some of the acting, here's the mistake that I made. I tried to get ready for the show and my type in, okay, I know we're doing the first one, Fast and Furious. Nope. Start watching it. Yeah. That's the fourth one. Or that's...

Or it's the one that came out in 2009. I was like, Dominican Republic, I don't think it starts there. And then I was like, fuck, they named the movie Fast and Furious. And then this movie is called The Fast and The Furious. Now it's just down to like, Fast X. But I mean... The thing that blew my mind and you referenced it just a second ago was, in the opening heist, it isn't even just TV DVDs, it is VCRs.

I saw those VCRs. There are VCRs in the truck. I would argue that the VCRs get more highlighted than the DVD players. And part of me feels like the production couldn't afford to even get the proppage of the DVDs at that point. Yeah, they didn't... Well, they had Panasonic. Panasonic dumped a lot of product.

They were like, we're dumping these, you want to put them in your dumb movie? Panasonic's like, oh, please show us something that thieves want. Here to break down the film in hairstyles and in so many ways that you would never even think to look at a film critically, my other co-hosts, please welcome June Diane Rayfield. Welcome, June. How are you? I'm well. How are you, Paul?

I got to tell you, you look good. Good damn. Do you want it? Do you want it? Should we cut the sleeves off of it? If you have a scissor, I'll cut the sleeves off. I'll cut the sleeves. I will say this much.

This is the style that I've never seen you in. And I don't mind it, not one bit. All right. Not one bit. I want to thank Pete, Pete the S-Man, Pete the S-Man made us these shirts. He's here. Thank you, Pete. Great work, Pete.

So they're getting great work, Pete. You know what? For the Fast 10 show, I will cut the sleeves off. Okay. Okay. Let's build to it. Why do I feel like you're going to spend the next whatever month getting just jacked? It's going to be like, your arms are going to be like twice that you're going to come

mail this. Well you know what? Maybe just for this audience, by May 26, I will get, I'm just going to start doing roids. I'm going to get really... Do it. I already got the hair. Holy shit.

If we could produce a picture of you that looked as close to Vin Diesel as possible, that would be amazing. I am, I've been working on my follow up to his short film, Multifacial, which is a short film that Vin Diesel made called Multifacial, which again, probably is aptly titled as Race Horse, but just like, oh, maybe you should have ran that by somebody before calling your short film. But Multifacial is a film that he made to show that he could play anything. Native American, Latin, like that Italian, like that's the whole thing.

Who is he? Steven Seagal? But you know, I mentioned this before, we, you know, this is a big show for us because this is something that we have kind of imprinted in our show and we wanted to make sure that we brought to you an expert, somebody who really knows Fast and Furious, loves Fast and Furious as much as we do. And we, I think we found a perfect person, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome our guest, Seth Rogan.

Hello. Welcome. Race Horse! Race Horse! Race Horse! Race Horse! Race Horse! Race Horse!

No? No? Oh. Okay, I'm hearing that we shouldn't have done that, so we're cutting it from the episode. Here's the one thing, here's the one thing that I will tell you. Don't tell anybody we did that. Here, the one thing that I love, um, somebody, I think we could keep it in because of this fact alone, um, a listener of the show wrote me a couple months ago and said, hey, you

are the people that said it. Um, a listener of the show wrote me a couple months ago and said, um, I was cleaning out an office and I found the original script of Fast and Furious. Can I send it to you? I don't, I want to get it out there. There's a lot of differences. It takes place in New York. There's a lot of things, but one of the big differences is in that script for the Fast

and Furious, it is called Street Wars, and someone went in to change, like, Race Wars. It was, it was already fine. The fact that it was written as Street Wars and changed to Race Wars, and no one flagged it. And I believe if I'm not mistaken, at least one or multiple, right of the later sequels also feature Time at Race Wars? Yes, they go back to Race Wars. They go back to Race Wars.

You can't escape Race Wars. Uh, Seth, Seth's done. That was it for me. We were talking this week, you saw this in the theater. Oh yeah, for sure. 2001. I was, uh, 19 years old, something like that. Uh, yeah, I was in, I saw, I remember I was in Vancouver when I saw it, and actually in

Vancouver where I'm from, like, street racing was a big thing. Really? Oh yeah, it was a really big thing. There was a huge amount of kids who were souping up their parents' fucking cars, and in fucking high school, a lot of my maniac friends started souping up their little fucking cars. And I remember, like, there was a point where I was like, if their fucking steering wheel matches the color of their fucking hubcaps, I'm not getting in the car with these motherfuckers. Like they're fucking crazy, and you'd be like at a party, and someone'd be like, anyone

to go to the store with me, and you'd get in these little fucking cars, and they'd be ripping through the fucking streets, and it was really stressful. And so, uh, yeah, when this movie came out, I was like, oh, they made a movie about these motherfuckers, and then, um, but then I saw it and I loved it. I got it. I wouldn't have expected that of Vancouver. There's, uh, yeah, it's, cause it's a, it's, a lot of the cars are Asian cars, and there was a huge amount of Asian kids who, uh, had moved, I mean, if you want to get into it,

let's. There's a lot of kids, the Hong Kong handover, have you heard of the Hong Kong handover? There were, well I also love how the movie, they are divided by race for the most part. It works on both levels. Of course, except for Vin, who, who is everything? Who's side, yeah, I kept writing down, who's side would he be on? He's the Jesus Christ of the race wars, he's like, I've come to bring peace to all of you.

Family. I, I really remember talking about this movie, and justifying why I liked it in 2001, being like, if you like point break, it's just like point break, it's kind of like point break, and it, it really is like, kind of like point break. It's like point break with no crime. Yes. Well, yeah, like, yeah, the crime and point break happens a lot here. It's like alluded to.

Was I missing the, the crime? The crime is? Was there one crime in the beginning? Yes. Yes, there was one. Two. There'd no. Act one and act three have, have a single.

Christ. Heist. Yes. But it, other crimes, $6 million worth of crimes have happened. Correct. You're right. That's not that much. I know.

I've been thinking, why is DC involved? They stolen $6 million worth of VCRs. By the way, exactly. Do you know how the metric ton of VCRs you'd have to have to equal $6 million worth of VCRs in 2001? But by the way, I guarantee you the fed spent more money renting that mid-century modern house in the middle to have just like to put up pictures. Incredible house.

I was like, I want to live here. I know. A beautiful house. They tore it down. I looked it up. A beautiful house. And you know that this film has its finger on the pulse of youth when it's described as, you know Eddie Fisher bought this house for Elizabeth Taylor, like you need to be

like the lead singer of corn fucked here once. Oh yeah. Like, like who cares about it? But that's what I loved about this movie. First of all, I have never seen this movie before. Whoa. This is my first time. Yeah, I know.

And so now I'm looking back at, I've watched this franchise so chaotically, so haphazardly with no, there hasn't been a path that's made sense. To be fair, the franchise doesn't have a path that makes sense. Would you be shocked to find out that in very few movies Vin Diesel is not even in them anymore? I'm shocked. Well, they're not even chronological. Yeah.

There's like three movies that take place before this movie that come out, I think. But there are certain details in this movie, like the cops being in that house, the decaf, the cigarettes, the stuff like that where I was like, I love this movie. I love these scenes. I don't, I don't recognize this as any other fast movie that I've ever seen in all my days. It's fun. Vin Diesel smiles more in this movie than he has smiled since this movie in life. I will say, but I also say like, I watch this movie and I was like, I get it.

Like he's a star. He's a star. When he does that monologue, I'm like, this is very good. The one, I live life one quarter mile at a time. I was like, yeah. Do yourself a favor, Paul, actually, if you don't mind, live your life one quarter a mile at a time tattoo. All right.

Look it up. I do it for the show. I did this already and it's not, I mean here, everybody wants this as a tattoo. Really? Yes. That's a tattoo. Yeah. It's a huge tattoo.

The script. I live my life one quarter mile at a time. Was that a saying before this movie? I can't imagine. I mean, but it seems like he doesn't. It seems that there's a lot of planning going into these heists. It seems like he's planning a lot of stuff. You're right, they're not that complicated and in the end, are thwarted by a man with

a shotgun. Yeah. That was it. That's what it's over. Like the big villain in the third act is like, he's like a scared man with a shotgun. Just a non verbal. And they would all be dead if he could reload quicker. A non yes.

Or if he had a buddy, a non verbal like antagonist is the big bad. Like that was crazy. Can I just say like the thing that I love in this movie is the first heist starts with a grappling hook. And I feel like grappling hooks aren't used as much in life, but in movies, everyone's got a fucking grappling there. Oh yeah. Hollywood's keeping big grapple in business.

Like the way that they attack the truck is shooting a grappling hook through the passenger side window. But then that would break. So it's not like you could use that to like, it's not like a side of a building. The first one is to pull the window off. Okay. The second one is so you can get across safely if you're Vin. No, no, no.

Not Vin. Who's it's Vince. Vince. I think what's hard too ultimately is like these truck drivers, they're not doing anything wrong out there. They're simply. Yeah. They're not.

The third act is a scared guy trying to save his VCRs. And even when, even when the FBI is like, well, the truckers are going to arm themselves going to be ma'am. I'm like, they should. They should. They should. By the way, I also like that the police haven't in with the truckers. The truckers like, Hey, if this keeps on happening, I'm going to tell my guys, go fucking shoot

them. Yeah. Like, and they're caught like, Hey, hey, truckers, we got this. And the truckers like, I'll give you 36 hours and then my guys are going ham. But those are the stakes of the movie. Yeah. Is that maybe the truckers will just have to do it themselves. Which when they do try to do it, he pretty much does.

They're successful. They are successful. So we don't see in the rest of the movie the feds, any of the bosses, any of the, we never, they never arrive. They never, when we get to the end of that whole chase sequence, when Vince is almost maimed, he has to be airlifted out. There's still nobody there on the scene. But I also don't understand like they, in the middle of the movie, there's like this

moment where like, should we go bus that crew? And he goes, yeah. So they have a ton of DVD, TV combos, cars that match the look, but they were all bought legally and these guys just race. And they bust Johnny Tran while he's drinking tea with his family. Yeah. Okay. But again, what this movie gave us was that moment between Johnny Tran's dad and Johnny

Tran. Which is great. I thought that was a beautiful moment, non-verbal, you know, beats in the background, but just a gorgeous moment. During our tea ceremony. And I loved it too when it's like, he's, Johnny Tran's been set up as like a real villain. And then you see this moment and then he has, he confronts Vince, Vin rather, at Race Wars. And it's like, you embarrassed me in front of my family.

And that was, that's what I love about this movie versus, for example, we watched, we all watched Tork last night, Anybody, Tork, didn't have any of that, right? There's no family. There's no, like there, there aren't, there aren't any consequences or stakes for any of the people in Tork, except Adam Scott. That's why there's not 10 Torks did, you know. It's true. They haven't figured out the secret sauce.

And it, you know, this movie is also about life of someone who struggles with ADD. Oh yeah. That's a real, that's the longest. Jesse. Other than a lot of people probably have that tattoo also. RIP Jesse. RIP. I know.

I know. That guy walked so Aaron Paul could fly. Yes. Put some respect on his name, please. That guy was wonderful. And breaking bad was just making Adderall, not meth. But I was really like. I was sitting there watching him calling his agent.

He's like, there's nothing, nothing. They're like, sorry, you got to watch this show. And he's like, no, man, that's my whole thing. No bitch. And he did a great job. I would be mad if I were him too, because like that, you know, at certain points in the movie, I'm like, wow, this movie is really, if we keep on going back and back and back, we land at ADD.

And being the cause of all of this. Yeah, yeah. This movie is about ADD in a sandwich shop. Yeah. Oh wait. So the sandwich shop, I've talked about this in the past. I forgot. When I saw that Pinty's owned a sandwich shop, when you first seen it.

I forgot that they owned a sandwich. Okay. So do they not own it as the years go by? No. No. I don't think we ever returned to the sandwich shop. No. What?

For five minutes? In which one? In which one? In three. Oh yeah. Yeah. There's only that scene in the sandwich. Yeah.

But we saw that. We saw that. I did. That's the scene we're talking about. That's what we're, that's what we're all talking about. Right now. Yeah. We're all caught.

We're revisiting it if we are talking about it. Yeah. We got that one. It would be it. We got that one. I will say, I got to interview with June, the cast of Fast Nine, live on stage. To call it an interview, Paul. Did you say alive on stage?

Did you say got to? I got to. Alive on stage. I was blessed to, where I did call Vin Diesel Dom. That was a mistake. That was. An honest. He left my body when he had it.

I bet he was thrilled. I bet he was so psyched. He answered, didn't he? He did. He did. He did. But I did say to Jordana Brewster, I said, wow, Mia's come a long way from making sandwiches. Like, is there been any thought of her going back into that restaurant biz?

And she looked like she didn't remember it. He made sandwiches. Mia doing what? She's like, that was 20 years ago. I loved how Brian's whole, like, undercover persona was a guy who just loves tuna sandwiches. And I love that that's as much as he needs as an in. I go to the shop, I order a sandwich, now I'm in with the crew. To be fair, I'm not surprised the sandwich shop didn't last very long.

Everybody's like, these sandwiches are terrible. Why are you behind them? And he also asks her, like, how's the tuna today? And she's like, it's not good. Can I ask you a question? And arguably she's making it. She could have improved it if she knows. Is there a lot of differentiation tuna-wise day-to-day in real life?

How's the tuna today? You said no one in the history. Is that like a catch-of-the-day scenario? Like, it's good tuna today. Sometimes if I go to Subway, I'll ask if I have a tuna fish sandwich at Subway, which I've stopped doing many years ago. But when I did, I would always ask, is it okay? Like, because they have an idea of how long it's been there.

And I'm like, if you have to ask, you shouldn't eat it. Yeah, palm, palm. That should be a real rule. If I have to ask, is this safe to eat? I should choose different. What a huge amount of trust to put in these people who work at Subway. She seems legitimately angry to be making him a sandwich, but yet it's not taking her away from any other job.

Her job seems to be short order cook, I mean, or a sandwich cook. I mean, it doesn't even look like there's a grill back there. What is Dom doing in that little room he's in back there? I really want to know. I'm sorry, do you mean Dom's brooding cage? He's like, I'm going to go in the back and brood. He has like a room like Danny DeVito has in taxi. Who's calling my name?

By the way, if it's not clear, we loved this movie. Yeah, it was amazing. This was exceptional. But you get, you get why at the end of this movie, like Vin Diesel goes off to become a big movie star. Like he doesn't do the sequel. He's like, I'm out. That was it.

Like they like, and, and for him to come back in four, he's out for two and his career kind of arcs in a way where he's like, I'll be back. And, and he jumps back in and that's like the beginning of another. Now he only makes these. Yeah, that's it. But then you get Paul Walker in this movie. And what I love about Paul Walker in this film is he's undercover.

He looks young. Everyone's young. Everyone's hot in this movie. Every man, woman, every, every person. And the movies got like a great horny energy to it. Not for nothing. Well, it's kind of great. Like there was, and we talked about this a little bit in the torque episode,

there was sex in these movies. Or an element of it. Vin Diesel fully motorboats Michelle Rodriguez. I wrote the exact same thing down. I was like, I was like, these are grown people. Is this, I mean, I'm not sure of motorboating. It made me laugh so hard. It's not just sexy scene.

He like picks her up and puts her on the car. And then he's like, yes. I pictured a motorboat. The truest sense it was a motorboat. I just picture Vin being like, I'll pick her up. I'll put her over here. We'll sit down. I'll motorboat her.

Like all car guys. You know how you do. We're in the normal sexual progression. We're in the garage. We're surrounded by motors. Motorboat. Come up, you tear your shirt off. They tear your shirt off.

You motorboat. Now, I will say that the original script, this one that was in 2000, dated. Yes. Motorboats. Motorboats are ferocious. Dog. Dog.

Dog. Dog. Dog. Dog. Dog. Dog... Dog. Dog, dog, dog.

One, the other bike. Bike. Bike. Bike. Bike. concealing... bike. Bike, bike.

Bike, bike, bike... Bike, bike, bike, bike... bike, bike, bike, bike... When you're home tonight, hooking up after the show, just sneak a real subtle motorboat in, just to be connected to everybody else who's doing it. It's so silly. I will say Paul Walker. Post it on the Discord.

Paul Walker. But unless you're doing the arm pole in the cord emotion, it's not a true motorboating. Paul Walker, Eyes of a Husky. Eyes of a Husky looked amazing. By the way, in that movie, Snow Dogs with Huskies. So he was like... Doesn't he play their father?

What? I was shaved so we could win this race. I'm a shaved Husky. He's so crazy, though. He has such piercing blue eyes. He looks so beautiful in this movie. And then to see him during the raid that he's a part of, he's like, he's undercover. Does he need to also do that? But with a big mask on, it's like, oh, that's so clearly still you.

We see your Husky eyes. I will say this much that in this film, you know, Brian and Mia, they have this relationship. And in the film, they go out on first date, which we'll get into. But then they wake up kind of in bed. And you know, it's alluded to that maybe they had sex, even though they seem both, I think, fully clothed. But in the original draft...

She is naked. Oh, she is? Okay. He's blocking the majority of her body. In this, in the original draft... Oh, no, she's under the covers, to be clear. Sorry, sorry, sorry. All right, so in the original... Paul doesn't see that when he looks in movies. He just watches the story and stuff.

I also think he might think sheets are clothes. Sheets are the clothes of the bed. She was wearing a good toga as a woman, though. She was wearing the bed's clothes. Talk to all my friends who are ghosts. That's their clothes. That's their outfit. My Roman friends, my ghost friends. I would believe that you have a number of ghost stories.

I have a couple. I have a couple. So, in the original draft, they go skinny-dipping in a stone quarry lake. And I wanted to read... The stone quarry lake in Los Angeles? Yeah. Of course. The LA quarry in Lake.

I know a spot. This is the scene description of it. It's pretty funny here. It's like the black Acura is parked next to a pristine quarry surrounded by woods. Can the lights come down? A shriek as Brian runs into a diving leap. Mia, on his tail, trying to catch him,

they soar through the air and plummet into the quarry lake, howling with laughter. They splash each other playfully. Brian dives under and comes up behind Mia. She screams with delight. They embrace for a long kiss. They pull each other's clothes off. They start to make love in the water.

What? Only this time, nothing in the world is going to stop them. I like that. I would have liked to have seen it. Except the terrible discomfort of trying to have sex in the water. The quarry. Ooh, we're getting filthy sediment water inside of us. You shoved a bunch of quarts in me.

That's a scene where, like, he's in bed with her at the FBI guy's call, and they're like, we're going to raid the house if you're cool with it. Say yes. And he goes, yes. But, like, what a dumb fucking thing. Like, that's not a conversation. Like, you can't play hot.

Like, even if it's a wrong number, you wouldn't be like, you'd be like, what was that wrong number? You're like, why'd you just say yes? Excuse me. The squad phone call comprises the word yes. I think I got the wrong number. Am I right? Yes. It's a real bummer.

It'd be correct to say. For a criminal family, they are not suspicious enough at all. Vince is the only one who is. He's so right. And he's a piece of shit. But he's hungry. He's got to come back sad and kiss Dom's head. Because I don't have any recollection of the other ones. I am wondering, I'd love to ask,

how did they go from drag racing to solving crimes as a team? Oh, boy. Well, there's a lot. Step by step process. We also have to spend quite a bit of time in Tokyo. Which none of them are in. Except Han. Who becomes in the other ones.

Okay, just because after watching this one, I'm like, wow, they do not seem to have any skill sets. They can barely steal VCRs. Ultimately, they're failures. They fail at the end of the movie. Their number one tool is a computer run by a guy with ADD. Like, that's the most. Who's now dead?

Yeah, and they also, they do some stuff where it's like, hey man, it's the internet. You can find out anything. Like in 2001, for them to find out anything about Brian Splinter, or whatever his name is, Billner. That's how you knew they did not think this was going to be a franchise. They're like, what should we name him? Brian Splinter.

Yo, Splinter. I did feel watching this like, oh, they have no idea what's ahead for them. Oh, the adventures you're going to go on over the next 20 years. Oh, look at you, you're so cute. The amount your head will grove in. It will be feet wider by the time this adventure is over. You've probably not even been on an airplane. Never mind, it dropped out of one while inside of a car.

You haven't, you haven't fought a submarine or been to space yet. You don't even know Tyrese yet. There's so much. By the way, this movie is like, it is not, I really liked it. I enjoyed it, but there are some sloppy elements. Like there's one part and I couldn't. Hard disagree. There's one moment of it.

Like I couldn't tell if this is like a conscious choice or not. But when they are, when their car is blown up by the gang, right? Yeah. You know, Brian says like, hey man, what was that about? And he's like, long story. Then the car blows up. And then the same line. Long story.

And then they cut out. I actually rewinded it because I was like, oh, there's some sort of glitch in the system. The point is that two things happened they couldn't explain in like 90 seconds. And the only line of dialogue they could think of to make it work was, what was that all about? I don't know. And they said it twice. You should know. They should know.

Those guys did nothing. They pulled them over in their motorcycles, drove them away, blew up their car and that's it. Well, and then also I didn't, I don't know that much about Nas, but is this movie made? Nas, man. I'm on Nas right now. That's why you're going so fast. I'm fucking raging right now, dude. Nas is displayed like in those cases at like diners where the desserts go around. But I thought that was an illegal thing to have Nas.

Well, that's what I kept on wondering. I also didn't know what Nas was, but I thought, well, isn't this sort of like doing steroids? Or isn't this the kind of a performance enhancing drug? I would love to see how they are as racers with no Nas. Damn, no Nas. Because all you have to do, because then I didn't understand what is the art of, what is the art of no of drag racing? Is it about your racing skills and your handling skills? Or is it about just how you can soup up a car?

I think that's part of it is the souping up and being proud of all the ways you do it. Because do you remember there is the race, I believe in the one you were talking about, Paul, the one that's maybe in the Dominican Republic, where Vin is in a car that's so old it doesn't have Nas, but he manages to crack open the engine and pour like alcohol in it or something and do the exact same thing to the motor. This isn't in this movie. There's always a way in which they push it to the red line and they're like, I have to add a stick of dynamite to this.

Otherwise, it's not dangerous enough. But yeah, I think the souping it up of the car is part of this whole aesthetic. No? This audience is mostly racers, right? That's why they were so psyched about the race wars! Well, I mean, when you type in Nas... I would start the chance again, but I think I'd get in trouble. I mean, when you type in Nas, it really is just saying it's laughing gas.

It's just used by dentists. Wait, really? Yeah. It's nitrous oxide. So then I guess they figured out how to take that and it says... I don't think they figured it out. Rob Cohen. Rob Cohen figured it out. Vin Diesel is like, what about dental stuff?

I was at the dentist the other day. Vin was like... What about this? What about this stuff? What about whatever's in Dennis Hopper's thing from Blue Velvet? Yeah, what that stuff. Family. You guys seen Little Shop of Horrors? It's used in cars to boost the output of the engine for a limited duration.

Its first application dates back to World War II, when it was used to increase the power of air jets. Vin Diesel did it in Saving Private Ryan. That was the first time. That's where he learned. Wilbur, I got this. I invented it in that movie. But yeah, and I guess what they're doing is putting multiple... More gnaws than normal, because when Vin Diesel lifts up the passenger seat...

Is there a normal amount of gnaws? Well, he seems to have a lot of gnaws. You're talking one, two tanks. That's your normal gnaws. Yeah, I've got four in there. He's got four or five tanks in the seat. That's abnormal gnaws. For me, I use a quarter tank of gnaws to get me home. And listen, I cannot use gnaws anytime I want. If I want to stop gnawing, I can stop gnawing.

I just don't want to. By the way, Nitrous Oxide has found its application in drift races, like Formula Drift, and limited usage on urban roads due to safety and legal reasons. But there it is. Wet gnaws harder, dry gnaws easier to use. That's why they use wet gnaws. Let's all agree to never say wet gnaws again. I like a nice wet gnaws.

You wouldn't believe what I got into last night. That gnaws was wet. That was some wet gnaws. At first it wasn't, but then it was. Oh, I got two tanks of sopping wet gnaws. I hate dry gnaws. I can barely get at that gnaws. When I go to the car place, I'm like, how is that gnaws fresh?

If you got to ask, it's not good gnaws. Top me up with some of that moist gnaws. What I want to go back to, June, is what you said early on about the cops and the FBI in that house, and that one line where they go, he's like, get us some ice cappuccinos. Four! Four! Four ice cappuccinos! And he goes, you know, he's like, yeah, he asked them, and you think he's going to be like, you want that decaf or regular? And he was like, regular, you fucking dumbass.

And he's like, decaf. And then they pay it off with him sipping like a whip cream on top out of a glass mug. Like, it was making that. Okay, so I thought about that scene and those cappuccinos. I'm still thinking about it. And I think what was happening is that that cop was like, I got to deescalate the energy in this room. Like, I'd love to stay caffeinated. I need it.

But after what I've seen here, all of these different relationships and how things are amping up, I'm going to say decaf. Now, what I was really distressed by was the way in which those cappuccinos were presented. I can no more imagine drinking an iced cappuccino on my teeth without a straw. Why were they in those glass mugs? This is what I read here. So we're going to play the scene first thing. But what I read here is that this one cop is always like,

can I make an iced cappuccino? I make a great iced cappuccino. Like, Phillips, we don't need iced cappuccinos all the time. And then, like, and he was like, I'll throw him a bone. Let's get the iced cappuccinos. Like, this is a big moment for him. Oh, that's fishing. I feel like if you look at the cop as like a guy who's always trying to get the iced cappuccinos going.

But think about how difficult it would be. We're at a house in the hills. That means there's a full-on cappuccino maker in this house. Of course there is, Jason. I imagine there was. Phillips is like so happy. He's like, hey, we're going to be at the house. I'll bring my cappuccino machine.

He's like, we don't need your cappuccino. It seems like they spared no expense being at this house, I got to say. Oh, yeah. I feel like they were at this house and they were like, we're going to use everything. Every appliance from your laundry. Like a few VCRs. We should spend $8 million catching them. Yes.

Just so they can hang out. Just so they can be there. They're like debrief with their one undercover. You could do that in an alley. You don't need to do it in an alley. So now I'm like, maybe that's why the FBI agent was like, this has to close up. We have to close up this deal in 36 hours because we are spending. We are.

We are paying money. We already signed. We already said we're leaving this month and we have to get out. Also because it's $6 million, but like Brian's car, the green car that explodes. That alone. That's an enormous expense gone. He needs another car. That's a whole other thing.

They keep pouring money into Brian who is more and more just going full blown. Like I'm out of here. I'm helping the bad guys. I needed more of Ted Levine in the Gary Busey in point break part. Like Ted Levine, who's Buffalo Bill in silence on the lambs, who is Brian's handler is very passive in a way. And I love Ted Levine very passive in a way that you needed the, like the insane Gonzo nonsense of Gary Busey as a presence in Brian's life.

I feel like to give any weight to that part. But by the way, also this is a twist. Like as the audience, we all now know the backstory. We're 23 years in. Can I tell you something? I'd never knew that Brian was a cop. Oh wow. Of course not.

So how did it feel to you? Of course not. I was shocked. You don't find out he's a cop till I think 37 minutes into the movie. And I was watching you and my wife, Lord, and I was like, you know, we were like 33 minutes into the movie. And I'm like, it's exactly like point break, but they're not, you know, doing any crimes. And she was like, yeah, except at point break, he's a cop.

And I was like, oh, and she went, what? And I've seen all the others. And there's no reference. No, no, you're right. You're right. All right. So she has seen every other fast and furious. What a great, that must have been incredible.

It was shocking. It blew her mind. Changed everything. Changed all of the others. By the way, I like two. That's it. Now that I know this, I'm like, oh, wow. Yep.

And two is like his journey of like, like that's where he goes and learns. Like he's like, now I'm out. Now I'm just in culture, but he's all about. Because he's in it, but Vin isn't. Yeah. What? Yeah. That Vin doesn't come back until four.

Yeah. He makes a cameo appearance. Lord is the first one with all of them back. And the tagline for four is new model, original parts. Yep. Which I don't know how I feel. He called a part. Yeah.

The first one is Vin and him. The second one is just Paul Walker meeting with some of the people you'll see in the future. And then the third one is none of them. And in Tokyo. Yeah. But that is reducing some kings. Yeah.

So why does Paul Walker leave the force in the second one? You know, there's an alternate ending to this one. On the version I bought on iTunes that was him quitting. It was him going back to Vin Diesel's house again, which was funny because he'd already done it. At this time, the handler was dropping him off and Letty's there, or not Letty. Dronana Brewster. What's her name in these fucking?

Mia. There you go. Yeah. And he's like, hey, Mia. And then they're like, have you seen Dobb? And she's like, no, Dobb split. Like you're a fucking cop still. And he's like, I quit.

Whoa. And then that's the end. Because like the second movie opens with like a little prologue. That's also like, it feels like it mixed. I can't remember it. I remember literally having a portable DVD player and watching it like that and being like, oh yeah. That you got that was stolen.

Yeah. I got it from some bald guy. Yeah. With no sleeves. I would love it if fast fast tens like promo material was a little DVD player with the movie. By the way, what I would have loved, what I would have loved to like put him on the scent because at a certain point Brian doesn't know it's Vin Diesel.

Like at one point Vin could have been like, hey, take a DVD player. Like you never see the movie objects. They don't do shit with them. Yeah. The best part. They don't seem to have that much money. They work at a cafe sandwich shop and sell tuna sandwiches. Bad tuna sandwiches.

I know. They need Marcus Limonis. When Brian, my favorite part was when Brian is in Johnny Trams. Yeah. Yes. Cave or whatever that situation work. Garage. Place of work.

Everyone has a garage. Do you think everybody's, everybody's garage? They call the cave. Yeah. The man cave. The car cave. Okay. I laughed so hard when he spots the VCR slash DVDs and he looks at them.

He can see clearly there's a, there are columns of VCRs and DVDs. That's not enough. He goes over and then he looks and continues to look like him processing the information that there is a VCR. The box is so identifiable. And it's such a tell for the undercover cop to be like, That's a VCR. There's another one.

And there's another one over here. And that's also one. By the way, by the way, Hey, what you doing over there, man? What you looking at? By the way, that's what I'll say. It takes so much time over there. When the twist is that they're bought legally, if you went to someone's house and they had

60 DVD, I would walk over like, Also, no. Also, somehow Johnny Tran has legally purchased an enormous volume of the exact same Panasonic TV, VCR. What a VCR. How was that possible? He works for an agency here in Los Angeles. And his boss was like, Hey, we're giving out these Christmas gifts to all my clients.

I was like, he's somehow marking them up. Like what could the profit possibly be here? What's the point of it? What's Johnny Tran is like crazy Johnny, like crazy Eddie. That's what I thought. Did he get some sort of a deal on a bulk order? In my mind, he had to have bought them from Vin. Were they different ones altogether?

No, Jason. No, I know. He's in a world where VCRs are currency, man. What if it's all tracked back to like early internet purchasing? He's like, I thought I bought one. I bought a thousand. Clicked on the wrong thing. TV, VCRs were the original crypto.

How many do you have? One? I just want to play. What if it breaks? You don't have 47 spares? Paul knows this, but my dad used to only shop in like wholesale. For some reason, someone gave him a wholesale license and he would only shop wholesale for us. So every Christmas we would open up like 12 boxes of yo-yo.

That sounds great. The 12 yo-yos of Christmas. I love that. I'm not Christian, I'm Jewish. I've only heard of the 12 yo-yos of Christmas. One more yo-yo. That's not so wild. Nine yo-yos, eight yo-yos, seven yo-yos.

I'm Jewish where we've always been like, that seems weird, but I guess if you're saying that's a thing. What's interesting is, and I'm not lying, every year my mother gives me a yo-yo for Christmas. Wow. Just one. Just one. I'm so sorry. That's the number in the same club. Absolutely.

Listen, when slap brass bracelets came out, I was like, I own 5,700 slap bracelets. By the way, I will also tell you this, if you don't want to drive yourself crazy and you have a child, never give them a yo-yo because all my kids did with yo-yos were like, just drop. And I go, Dad, can you rewire it? I'm like, drop. And I'm like, you gotta like, flip, drop. And I'm like, fuck, I threw it away. I threw it in the trash.

I don't know where it went. I don't know where it went. I lost it. I'm going to start sending your son's yo-yos. By the way, I did such a purge and it felt so bad when they went to school the other day. I just got a trash bag out and I went in there. I was like, let's go. Oh, I love it.

Blop, blop, blop. It's so fulfilling. It's so great when they're gone to get rid of all their shit. It really is. I don't realize it. It feels great. A cuckoo clock? I'm going to give a shit about that cuckoo clock.

My dad still remembers every toy his mother threw away. It comes up every once in a while. They'll be like a slinky on the floor and my dad will be like, in 1965. I want to play the scene of the cat. It would be amazing if you could find, purchase, and give him all of those toys. Every single one, he'd be like, what's this? This is the cappuccino scene, but again, look at it through the eyes of this guy, the other cop who makes him so psyched about it, brought his own machine.

And here we go. Here we go. All right, let's talk about it. News, why don't you make us four ice cappuccinos, please? Come on. That's his request, Sarge. Ah, decaps. That gets its own signal.

Four hijackings in two months, and we don't have any. Boom! DVD players and digital cameras along were really stupid, which brings the grand total. He is this. Was this in the script? Look at this. Was it in the script?

Ice. Was it in the script this way? Or is it also, it's so... I don't know. For those of us... This shot, he's so... You've never seen a sadder guy with an ice cappuccino. You know, and you know...

He's not drinking the ice cap. We put whipped cream on it, Brian. Come on. You know, the DP was like, it would work better if he's in the center of the frame, and they're like, no, no, no, we need to see the cappuccino just left. Paul, could you put it closer to you? This is a two shot between him and the cappuccino. These are two of the main characters of this movie.

If we are following the scene, like the camera here, so we see... What a terrible frame. We see the crotch of a police officer. This guy's full midsection. Objectively the worst part of a human male's body. Where's the belt crosses? You know, typical beings like... Above the belly button to right below the balls.

And he's like... That's what you're looking for. He's like, I think I came in too early. And they're like, it doesn't matter. We're going to use it anyway. By the way, all I wanted... He's like, do I have to drink this? All I wanted from Tepavine is to have whipped cream on his nose in the jar to the scene.

Yes! You know, he's like, I don't want to drink it. It's going to get messy all over my face. I feel like this is like a bit that happened on set. Like Rob Cohen was like... You know what I just... No, Paul, this is a part of the storytelling. It really was.

This was like, can we afford to be caffeinated right now? Can our masculinity handle it? Or do we need to... It did feel to me to be a shot at the police to be like, here they are in a fancy house in the hills drinking fancy coffee. This movie is anti-cop. It is. This movie is anti-cop.

And the edge of rooting for the cop to be like, fuck me in a cop, go! And that's what he does and he's right. He helps the criminals get away and he quits the force. By the way, that's why these movies are so successful. Honestly, a generation of people saw it and were like, fuck the cops. Yes! They're fancy pants, all of them. They don't even try to like smooth over.

He's not even like the bad guy with a heart of gold. He's equally bad. He's doing all the bad shit too. Can I distill it into two things? The cops are fancy decaf ice cappuccinos. Our family, Coronas. That's it. Only Coronas. And not just Coronas.

A Corona. And a Snapple. And a Snapple for Mia. And a Corona you took from another guy who was already drinking it. By the way, that's a real honor. That is so gross. There's no way I'm drinking Vince's beer. Okay.

No way! No bigger honor than this. You're definitely getting HPV from that Corona. Okay, but I really do have to ask. So I would put lime up there to kill the HPV. The human papilloba virus. Disgusting. Did...

Family. Okay, if a man, if I sit to a man, I'd like something to drink. Get me something to drink. Anything cold. And if he came back with a Snapple. That was such a red flag. That was so distressing to me.

Also, because she says, let's go get me a drink. A drink. That's what gets them to leave the tense situation. And then she's got a, like, a peach Snapple. He gets her. He decides that that is what she needs. This movie is about beverages. Yeah.

It passes not the Bechdel test, but the Bevronch test. It's got multiple types of beverages, individually shown in scenes. It's true. And I was like, what are we saying here that she doesn't get to drink Corona because she's more of a homemaker? We've seen her washing the dishes.

We've seen her making a drink of sandwich. Like, she can't have a drink. I have a question. Is it possible that the movie is positing that she is underage? Whoa. Oh. Well, because here it is.

Vin Diesel was supposed to be 24. What? Yes. He's underage. Wait, what? He's legitimately 42. He's 42 in the movie. Vin Diesel was 34 when he made this movie,

but he's playing 24. I'm 25. Wait, how old? I'm 24, yeah. He's 34 when he makes this movie. I'm just a little boy. I'm just 24. I just got out of school, family.

I don't know what's what. Oh, that's interesting. So you think they... She's definitely underage then. Yeah, I think they're saying she's a nine-year-old. And Brian... That's why you always want to do the sandwiches from this nine-year-old.

But then that's even more upsetting, because it's like, okay, we've taken the care as a production to make sure she's not drinking alcohol, but he fucks her. Yeah. Just a few scenes later. His bosses aren't at all like, why are you fucking the underage sister

of the guy you're supposed to be getting? They're stealing VCRs, man. And I'm going to let them go. I didn't do it. They're out the window on this one. We're stopping monsters. I do want to just call out one piece of, like, interesting trivia here about that line.

At the house party, when Dom says to Brian, you can have any beer you want as long as it's a Corona. It is a reference to Henry Ford, because Henry Ford said you can have any color you want as long as it's black. Oh, oh, it went with the Model T? Yeah, the Model T. Oh, interesting.

So that was, I mean, look at the deep... Look, weaving it in to car history. Okay, okay. Henry Ford also said Hitler was right. Henry... A lot of... Also a deleted scene. A lot of...

A deleted scene with Vince and Dom. Vin, why do you keep saying Hitler's right? It's a Henry Ford reference. What? I like it. Cool. It's a car thing. What?

Hitler was right. No, Vin. That's not cool. Okay, maybe... The Luftwaffe was only run on Naz planes. I want all of the cars to be Volkswagen's. I did like when Johnny Tran waterboards a guy with car loop. Yeah, that was crazy.

I was like, this is fucking Guantanamo Bay level. Yeah, so it's an interesting... Stop oil mouth. Yeah. That was like really hard. There was a bunch of good scenes in here. What I really liked about the movie genuinely is I was invested in the, again, bare bones crime story.

Yep. As much as the racing and all that stuff, but the crime story was good in the sense that it kept you guessing who was the bad guy and everybody seemed capable of real violence. Go ahead. Sorry. You looked at me and I thought you were... Oh, no. I was just listening to you.

Yeah, no. Well, I mean, but by the way, if you're talking about crime, what do you think is a better montage? You know, that famous sequence in Goodfellas when everyone's getting arrested to the Eric Clapton song or here when Corn is playing and everyone's getting up? Wait, isn't that also... Is that also the scene where Dom and Letty are having the motorboat scene? That's the motorboat scene, yeah.

And the same scene as the FBI raid on Johnny Tran. Go, go, go, go. Now, I'm going to say something about Dom. All I needed was the voiceover from Henry Hill's style. Well, this is the first time I've seen this movie. So having seen the other ones, again, in no particular order, I always thought that the two of them had a love, I've never known, that they had a... Dom and Letty.

Dom and Letty. Yeah, yeah, totally. But now watching this, I'm like, he's a fucking dick. Like, why is she protecting him? Why is she okay with this behavior? Over and over, he's such a wonder... Well, because they're just 24 years old, they're figuring it out. I guess.

It just wasn't... No, no, no. Everybody's behaving insanely. Right, but I never saw in this movie, in their beginnings, I didn't see that he really loved her. I mean, obviously he was upset that she was, you know, almost killed in a car, but I didn't see why they were such a wonderful match. What's interesting is, they seem to have figured each other out in a sense that he's in front

of her saying to the other guys, so are there any chicks here tonight or whatever, blah, blah, blah, which sends her into a thing, and then she's like, why don't we go upstairs and you give me a massage? And then that's what they do. I know. That seems to be their foreplay is... I will say, that is what is always interesting about these movies to me, that these movies are very homoerotic, and then they're in certain heterosexual relationships, they're also homoerotic.

I'm like... I think that Brian and Mia was supposed to be the romance, that was supposed to be... They have the love story, and I do agree with you, and this is the end, I will say this is the beginning and the end of compelling sexuality inside of these movies. Yes. Okay, so... I don't think there's anything in any of this. You've seen your last motorboat.

Yeah, but there is motorboating in Hobbes and Shaw. I think Hobbes does it to Shaw. You could motorboat the rock. You could motorboat the rock, let me say that. And he would crush your fucking head. My lips are broken, I didn't even know that was possible. How dare you motorboat? Oh man, I want to go to the audience and see what they think about this movie, because

I'm sure there are questions out there. So if you have a good question, you have a thought and observation, something maybe about Nas or anything at all that you can bring to the table, maybe you're an extra, maybe you're an actor in it, let us know. I will say background, incredibly in this movie, background, all the people that are making up the big crowds at race wars at the other race in Los Angeles, they're just normal people. They're just a bunch of random people.

They're real. I was watching the behind the scenes. They're the people who owned the cars and they put out notices where it's like, are you a cool, do you have a cool fucking car? We're doing a movie about cool cars. This is your fucking shit. If you want your cool fucking car in our movie, show up at this place. And like hundreds of motherfuckers showed up with their cars and those are the people.

By the way, I apologize if I already told the story on the podcast, but that's what we did for Piranha 3D where we said, with piranhas though. Do you have a cool piranha? Is your piranha all torqued up? They still listen to the radio and they come out. No, but it was a great, we would be driving around Lake Havasu and you'd hear like, if you were missing a limb, you should be an extra in this brand new movie, Piranha 3D. Because what they wanted to do is save money on the final attack scene.

So if people were missing a limb, they could easily make them an attack victim. If you're missing a limb. I will say hundreds of people showed up. I do not know how to react. The people in this room are so uncomfortable at that story and yet you all chanted race wars at the beginning of the show. You are so happy to say race wars, but now you're like, oh no, I can't laugh at the amputee joke Paul told.

It's not a joke. It's just a story of how films are made. If you are missing a limb and like hearing that on the hearing an ad start with an excited are you missing a limb, you'd be like, fuck yeah, volume up. All right, we got, we have the maker of the Tredo shirts here, Pete the S-man. All right, what do you got? So Pete, thank you, thank you for doing this residency. So there are only two mentions of family in this movie.

One where Tran says he was disrespected when the SWAT rated it. And the second is Brian's boss saying how Brian needs to choose. So none of the people that we know as promoting family in the later movies have no men. So you think that Dom co-opted family from Johnny Tran? Oh this guy's freaking out Paul. Because the whole living a quarter mile at a time at the end of that line, he says it's 10 seconds, nothing matters. Not the mortgage, not the shop, not the team.

So it's just interesting. So they went back and they ran on family? The next line is for those 10 seconds, I'm free. Free from my family. You're right actually. They really resonate with her. I do think the cops speak to family. Is that what you said?

Yes, the cops speak to family in a very impactful way. But we do get the first of many iconic picnic table time to say grace scenes. And it was great. It was great. Who do they show don't tell the family stuff with Vin? Like they are a family. Whether he likes it or not. Well then 10 seconds, he's thinking about his family.

I think that what they did was gravity was what they were going for and they realized family was better because he's like, dumb is gravity. He pulls everybody in. Everything gets pulled to him. Which is not as cool of a metaphor as family. You could tell that scene where he's walking around the car like making fun of Brian, like that was the greatest day of Vin Diesel's life. When there was like 200 people paid to laugh at his jokes and like really like pay attention

to him and think he was like where the direction everyone got was like, this is the coolest fucking guy you've ever seen in your entire life. Everything he says explodes. Everything. And you could see that day he was like, I'm going to make these movies for 24 years. Okay. Yes. Your name and your question.

My name is Kayla and my question is, do you guys have any insight of what happened because the woman in the first race, she goes up to Ja Rule, puts her hand or his hand on her tits and is like, whether you win or lose. I have absolute recall for this moment. Whether you win or lose, this is yours. But if you win, you get her too. And then after the race, this white woman says the n-word and then it's like, you lost, bitch.

So I'm just confused because she just told him that it didn't matter if he won or lost. No, she says, if you win this, oh, oh, I could just say, if you win or lose, this is for you. But if you win, you get her. You're right. You're right. It seems like she wasn't totally honest. Whoa.

That woman was a poor moral character and she was a racist, but willing to offer Ja Rule a threesome in exchange for winning a street race. I will also say that that street race, I know that they're waiting for her. That exact same thing happened to me outside of Largo before the show. If this podcast is funny, you can't be. If you can get everybody to chant race words, then you can have her too. Here's your objective. There are a couple of things about that race, the street race.

One which is like, okay, I like the idea that they listen to the police scanner to find out when the police are busy. There's a murder in Glendale. I thought, I thought for sure they would have built, they would have, um, why wouldn't you, if you want to have the race happen, why wouldn't you cause problems as far away as possible? Right. They're just waiting.

They're just waiting. They're like, guys, if we're lucky, there'll be another murder tonight. If you drive our cars around in the wake of the murder. But they're waiting like the way that you're supposed to wait, like a cell phone, like airport parking lot. They're all just lined up in the street. You would think of any cop and be like, oh shit, why, there's like 500 cars here. Well, they're just gonna race, no?

Well, this is a movie with no like, um, uniformed police. There's only undercover and like detectives and feds. There's no cop cars. There's no, there's no like street level police presence whatsoever, which is, they can no longer afford it because of this operation, but there's eight even on the highways. There's none of the stuff in any of the robberies. There's never police, which is incredibly insane. All right.

Um, your name, your question, uh, my name's John. So when they're, they have their like flashy racing cars. So when they're doing the crimes, they have the all black Hondas, but they've installed fluorescent green ground effects on their stealth cars. Why? Right. And as a matter of fact, it's one of the defining things that they could use to, they call it out.

Yeah. You're right. That's a suspicion. That's the answer is cause it's fucking cool. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well, I've worked with Neil Moritz, the producer of the Fast and Furious films, who's in the movie for one second, he's in the, he's in the scene where they're like, how much the

Ferrari cost or some shit. There's so many parts of this movie where like, that's a producer of the movie. That's a producer of the movie. Wow. That's a producer of the movie. Like, why else would that guy be in this fucking thing? But the pizza guy is Rob Cohen. Rob Cohen's a pizza guy.

But I've worked with Neil Moritz. He, I mean, I bet if he produced the green Hornet and, and, and honestly, he produces, I've produced the boys with him and preacher and I've done a lot of stuff with him over the years. Well, and when we were making the green Hornet, there was an argument over a part of the movie and it was like me and Michelle Godry and him and Evan, my partner, all like arguing over something and Neil like hit the table and he goes, listen, there's logic and there's cool and cool wins every time.

Not going to disagree. Holy shit. It's true. That's also a t-shirt. Wow. Wow. That could be, that's like a, I was like, fuck yeah, that's like, wow. That's huge.

That could be the tagline of any movie we've ever done. I love that though, because it is true. It's like, you're like, like, all it needs to do is work in the moment. If you don't question it in the moment, that was cool. Oh yeah. It was cool. Oh, that's great. It was amazing.

Okay. You're, hey, what's going on? How are you? Hey, Tim. All right. So, Tim, what's your question? If you are an undercover cop in the LAPD and you need to triangulate the location of a cell phone, is the person you call who can confirm your identity as a police officer

and provide the pertinent information, customer service at Nexthel, is that who I called? I couldn't understand. So he's just calling his cell phone provider? He's like, yeah, hey, Nexthel? Yes. Yeah. And she's like, how can I help you? He does seem to get it done.

But by the way, also... And he's like, here's my police badge number, and she's like, okay. But like the big... I imagine it's on a post-it or a computer, just in case. Can Nexthel do a trace on a cell phone number? But the other thing was, like, it seemed like that was a big part of it. Just give me his number. Like, that's what you were trying to find out?

If I'm in a car and I push on Star, can I be like, I need a location on Paul Sheer's cell phone? We got it. And they'll be like, are you a cop? And he'll be like, yep. All right. He's at Subway again? I'm...

It's me. Bosch. I need a location. Must be a good tuna day at Subway, because he's back there. Oh, man, oh, man. Your name and your question? My name is Crystal. Also, it's my husband and I, our first time out of the house on a date night, since we

had a baby 11 months ago. Congratulations. Congratulations. What's the baby's name, and is it Dom? Yeah, of course. Dom, Toronto. Our last name is not Toronto, but we decided... No, his name is Brady.

He should be asleep by now. But he'll be listening, hopefully, so I'll appreciate the shout-out. One day. So I read somewhere that Timothy Oliphant passed on the role of Dominic Toretto, and he was allegedly quoted as saying, I just thought, well, this will just be stupid. And I thought, no one is going to want to see this movie eight or nine different times. So my question is, as we reflect on Fast One and we approach Fast Ten, if you could, how would you incorporate Timothy Oliphant into the franchise?

Oh, great question. Easy. Bring in Marshall Rayland-Givans. He would be a great bad. He would be like a great, like a great, like a bad guy for them as a good guy. He would be. He would be a great addition. I'm surprised he was considered...

Are we sure he's not in one of these? I would be shocked. He would also be a good person in the Kurt Russell, Mr. Nobody. That's what I was going to say. You know, in that world that sometimes comes into it, he would be good in that role. Well, by the way, we talked about casting there, and I wanted to come up and talk about this because Rob Cohen's original casting choices, Mario Lopez is Dom, Mark Paul Gosseler as Brian, and Dustin Diamond as Jesse, and the studio passed because they did...

They thought the reteam of the Saved by the Bell audience would be confusing. You think? No. There's no way. That's what it... That's the research I got. I mean, there's a lot. Mark Wahlberg at then at one point, Christian Bale, Eminem, a lot of people went through

it. Mia Toretto was originally written for Eliza Duskoo, but she turned it down. Oh, yeah. That would have been great. That would have been great. Diesel wouldn't sign on immediately, and it took several script changes. So to go back to Street Wars versus Race Wars, that might have been it. Can we add more heads to the name of this race?

And this is the other one too, which was at one point, the studio really wanted Colin Farrell to be Dom. Oh, yeah. I'm on board for that. I like that too. I like that too. Yeah. That was post that movie.

There is, like, there is perhaps no greater, like, true, like, synthesis of actor and role than Vin Diesel into Dom Toretto, like, star-making performances. He is... If you ask him, are you Dominic Toretto? Yes. Which I did. He would say... He answered.

And I bet he did it bad enough. He did it. He answered, and I felt embarrassed, and I didn't even stop myself to apologize because he just went with it. It was the same as I feel as though he would answer to, hey, Dom, the same way that I feel like Stallone would respond to... Hey, Rock. Hey, Rock.

Yeah. To just... They feel completely synonymous with those roles. Well, I also... Yes. I think that the actor and the role, they've completely... There is now no difference, you know. Because he's been doing it for 20-plus years.

So crazy. So obviously, we have an opinion about this movie that it fucking rules, but we also want to hear some second opinions, so it is now time for second opinions. Well, this film I liked it quite a bit. I don't know why you called it shit, because of my favorites, this is one. Guess that's my second opinion, yeah. Guess that's my second opinion. Give it up for Stephanie.

Here you go. Perfect. Maybe one of these. Perfect. That's amazing. Great job. Great job. That was great.

Way to go. These are five-star reviews on Amazon. As you know, people love this movie, 19,000 reviews, 84% are five-star. Only 2% are one-star. Oh boy, oh boy. They're all... Here's the one thing. Sometimes when you read these reviews, you'll see something that pops up.

These all caps. I've never seen wildly all caps. This one starts out from... They're furious. The boss man writes, this is the first movie, very gritty and intense, it's my opinion, this is the best movie, a lot of substance. The newer ones got more special effects, but lacks good story and substance. Rest in peace, John Walker.

Five stars. Rest in peace, Walker, Texas Ranger. John Walker. It's sad that guy also lost a guy named John Walker. Mr. Lynch writes this... Mr. Lynch reviewed this movie. Mr. Lynch writes, movie was great addition to franchise. It's the first one.

So there we go. It is a great addition. Honestly, for me, the way that I watched it, it was a nice addition. Jude wrote that. It really was. If they all work, any order you see them and they work, that's the other thing about it. I would believe that coming from David Lynch. Great addition to franchise.

Samantha Connor writes, the actors, five stars. And then we'll end on this one. The title is called, homoerotic post-structuralist canon. And it says, pretty good, would have been hotter if the dudes actually made out five stars. Agree. Agree. If they weren't cowards, they would let that happen.

I mean, I feel like Mamoa is simply in this movie for the chance of someone to make out with them. We talked about it in the breakdown of the trailer when we watched it for the last looks episode and all we want is for them to kiss at the end. I want Mamoa to kiss somebody. This movie has been translated into many different languages. And this is what we got. In Canada, it's called Fast and Dangerous.

In Finland... That's hot. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Seth. Seth. Why did you guys do that? That is not true.

See, that's why Canada is bullshit. Why? You couldn't understand it. Because they think furious is dangerous. And they're wrong. But dangerous is not dangerous. It is. It is.

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It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. This is our shit! Finally!

Finally, a movie gets us! I mean, this movie is... All the German reviews are misleading! Misleading! Don't care for it! It was about cars! Came for the race was too many cars! There were some Volkswagen's and Fords, which we like!

I'm Henry! In general, misleading! Oh my god, this movie is awesome! All Walker looked perfect though! It's really true, he is like a shining Aryan in this movie! I was looking at him and being like, I get it! He is Nietzsche's Ubermensch! I get why they hate us!

This is better! He's an attractive guy! There it is, Brian Earl! Oh my gosh! This movie is awesome, there's no doubt about that! We recommend it, I can unanimously speak for everybody! Yeah, come on! Where it goes is so wild!

There was a moment where we were going to do a Fast and Furious movie a night here, and we thought it would be too much. Now after watching this, I don't think it would be! They're kind of fun! This one is really, really good! I feel like you get a taste of the future of the franchise at the very end. When Dom flies off in his dad's car, rolls the car numerous times, lands upright, revealed to be not wearing a seatbelt,

and is fine! He would have exploded inside of that car! But even that scene, he was fine, but he did seem kind of in pain, which I was shocked by because I had never seen his character reveal anything as humiliating as being hurt. In later movies, he's like, I'm Wolverine! Exactly!

That whole ending, all of... I just loved it! I know we're wrapping up, and I'm grasping at straws because genuinely, I want to keep talking about the movie, and that's what's funny. I don't have anything else to say! I was like, I think I want to watch these movies. Please do!

I have apparently seen a bunch of them, but I've seen six of them! You sure have a bunch, you have not seen! I haven't seen, and now that I know that this is the beginning... Did you come see it with us when we went to go see it in Rumble Seats? Number four, we found the only theater in L.A. at that point that was doing D-Box, it was called. We went to Man's Chinese Theater,

we signed the poster of the D-Box movie theater, because we were the only four people there at midnight to watch Fast and Furious 4, which is the boringest one. Yeah, you weren't there for that one. I wasn't there at midnight, but now, but it just reignited. Well, I guess it started because there was never really a passion for this, but I am now very curious and very interested in seeing the rest in order.

Yeah, and I think we're going to do it. I think because I'm on board for doing that in the lead-up to... You know, Jason, Paul obviously has unspooled, but maybe you and I break off. Wow, wow. Now, hear me out. What if our new podcast, Fun Spooled, launches one-quarter mile at a time?

What if our podcast is called one-quarter mile at a time? Let's do it. Oh, my God. I liked that they drove everywhere in a V-formation. I wrote that. And for some reason, my favorite line of the movie is he beats Hector, and Hector goes, hey, they call me Hector. Which, that's like your name.

It's like, that's just a name. Hey, they call me Hector, but my name is Bruce. My name is Bruce. They're super racist, hence the race wars. I assume my name is Hector. It's not. Wait, my name's Gary Rabinowitz, but everybody here calls me Hector. I wish they wouldn't. But wait, doesn't he also say, doesn't he say like, my name is Hector, and my last name, I can't pronounce.

He does say that, too. I just imagine being that actor and walking up to the director, Rob Cohen, being like, hey, I'm not sure how to play this line, where I don't know as a grown man how to pronounce my last name. What do you think my character means by that? By the way, I know that actor. We worked together on a TV series. He's an amputee. He showed up on a set of...

I would, I would bet his real name is Hector. And I would bet money that that was completely improvised. Great. 100%. Holy shit. Lovely guy, a lovely guy. All right. Well, thank you all for coming out here tonight.

What a pleasure to go back, back to the beginning of this amazing franchise. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye. Thank you to Seth, and thank you all for listening. We have a very special shirt. If you're in attendance at that show, you'll know what it means. We had to cut a majority of it out, but you'll get the drift of it. If you go to tpublic.com, you will see a very special fast and fury shirt. It's on sale right now.

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