HR BESTIES - Friends at Work

Starting point is 00:00:00 Flu shots in the office. Have you all ever had to get a flu shot for work? Many times. Healthcare. Got it. Right. Lee? Yeah, I wanted to get it. I wasn't like forced to. Well. Well. I have not worked in healthcare. I have worked in food service, but I also once worked

Starting point is 00:00:26 at a law firm where we got... And I can't exactly tell you if we were required to get them or not, but I know that they had them set up for us right in the office. And likely because it's in a law firm, they want you to work as much as possible. So... Don't get sick. Exactly. It's for your care, but more importantly, don't mess up our clients needs self-sacrifice. But why I say I can't remember if they were required is they were in the office. And so it wasn't even like a building wide thing, go to a thing. So we had to sign up for sign up. And so I went to sign up and I go into

Starting point is 00:01:02 a little conference room and I walk in and there's the nurse with the flu shot. And there's also our head of HR is sitting there at the table. And he was like a grown older, older man. Nicole Soule-Northman Like checking people off. Nicole Soule-Northman Literally, literally. Yes. And this is why he is. Yes. And so I remember looking around and like glancing in my mind thinking like, is this a prank camera type show? But of course, I'm also like a junior associate. So I remember looking around and glancing in my mind thinking, is this a prank camera type show? But of course, I'm also a junior associate, so I'm not going to say anything. So I walk in, close the door and the blinds down. But so I sit. And I remember thinking to myself, okay, I had a button up shirt, like a dorky... You had to whip your titty

Starting point is 00:01:41 out. No, I did not. You had to take your titty out. No, I did not. I have never in my life been so intentional, not even like a senior prom picture. I've never been as intentional about how I pose my body. I'm like, I don't want anything to come out. And he's just sitting there with the clipboard, all of that watching. So I do my sleeve down, I get my flu shot, I move on with life. And I went back to my desk and I thought, God, working is so freaking weird. And that was it. So that's the time that...

Starting point is 00:02:11 Oh my God. ... at my law firm, HR sat in. So sometimes when you see these comments that are like, anti-HR or HR is very strange. I honestly, I think back to this comment. Well, yeah. HR is very strange. Honestly, I think back to this comment, there's this situation years later of the time that we had HR is a witness for many type of conversations, but also at times for flu shots. Very interesting. You would never catch me doing that.

Starting point is 00:02:36 Well, it's funny that y'all are saying this because now I'm thinking back and a lot of times in many of the jobs that I've had, I've had to host health fairs. And typically I always lined them up with open enrollment. And so I had flu shots, but I was in the room. Right. But it's like, Oh my God. Yeah. It's a fair. I'm not checking people off. I could give two shits if you got your flu shot or not. Even in healthcare, I don't care either. I just need to know that come flu disease and you're going to wear a mask then. And this is even pre-pandemic and you just have

Starting point is 00:03:09 to sign a declination saying you're not going to do it. But I'm like, oh my God, what if that came off as Jamie standing with her clipboard? Well, but when the people got the shot, did they get to duck behind the thing? Like I've gotten my... Yes. Yes. Like I usually had. I had no privacy curtain. You know, even when I've done blood drives, like I'll have. Yes.

Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah. Yes. And people know like, and also you're like heads up. And so yeah, like I didn't even think of it because I, while I knew I was getting a flu shot, I assumed it would be the nursing staff, which it was. I certainly did not think it would be a colleague sitting there. Marking your name off Ashley Hurd. That guy is overpaid. Well, he also had a fun fact-

Starting point is 00:03:53 You have nothing else to do that day. Well, a fun fact as well is once when I was a summer associate experience at this location as well, we had a big party and I showed up at the party and I was the only summer associate in my large office that summer. And I looked up and he introduced himself to me and I was like, I lifted up my sunglasses. I was like, it's me, it's Ashley. And he's like, oh, I didn't recognize you. You were wearing sunglasses. And I was- Oh, you had clothes on. I only had your bare arm.

Starting point is 00:04:20 But yeah, I just, I'm so, and so I really hope we get some messages of things like this, of like, I do, but I know all the time HR gets asked to be a witness to conversations, which is a whole other thing. And I don't like that. HR should be a resource and a support and a conduit. But point is, sometimes they are witnesses for vaccinations. So in that firm, did you ever have to do randoms? And then what would he sit in there

Starting point is 00:04:45 while you piss? Here, I got your toilet paper. I folded it nicely. No, thankfully. Thankfully, that's next level. But no. Are you doing that as an HR person? Do you need to? You don't. You literally do. It shows a lack of trust. It speaks volumes without saying a thing. Yeah. It's stuck with me.

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Starting point is 00:05:55 Let's see. We will kick off this meeting with Cringe Corporate Speak, and I am responsible for that today. And then we will shift to our meeting hot topic, which today, the prompt and the question on our minds is, can you really have friends at work? Gosh, isn't that something to noodle on? And so we'll jump into that. And then, of course, we will save time at the end for questions and

Starting point is 00:06:24 comments as always. jump into that. And then of course, we will save time at the end for questions and comments as always. All right, so I am going to jump right into cringe corporate speak. And today, I present to you all the cringe corporate speak of out of pocket. And so how is this used if you've never heard of it? Let's say you're not going to be at work. Perhaps you're in a training, you're doing something else. Who knows? You are out of pocket for that day. I'm quiet vacationing. I'm out of pocket. I always, always, always envision someone sticking out of the breast pocket.

Starting point is 00:07:07 Wow. I did not go there. I was thinking that cute little pocket on the jeans that seems like... Oh, so yeah, also cute. I was thinking the boot pocket. The chest pocket, whatever. I'm stuck on my button up shirt for my flu shot. But just thinking about poking the head over, like my mom, when I was growing up on my lunchbag every day, she drove the little character from like, I think the 60s, I can't remember the name, but holding a sign with like the nose sticking over in the hands like that. She would write that and write a note every day of my little brown lunch bag. And so I

Starting point is 00:07:45 think about the leader poking out of the pocket just like that. So that's you in the pocket, right? It's me in the pocket. Yeah. So when you're out of pocket, you escape and you flee corporate America's little jeans pocket for the day. See, for me, it is cringy. I don't think I say that. Yeah. That's not a thing for me. Oh God. What if I have? Well, I'm sure you have before. If someone says that, then it kind of goes around and culturally some businesses or teams are going to be out of pocket. I've said it, but I had some Gen Z colleagues when I was doing some consulting work. Well, I said I'm going to be out of pocket and they had

Starting point is 00:08:25 an intervention with me on our next meeting and they were like, I don't think you know what that means. And I was like, no kids, I know exactly what I'm talking about. But they're like, no, you said out of pocket and we looked and I guess that can mean out of office, but you should just say out of office for that because out of pocket nowadays really means you're acting crazy. Like, yeah, off the rails, off the chains. Yeah, I was like, yeah, no, it doesn't. It already had a meeting and so find something else for that to say.

Starting point is 00:08:54 But it's but you'll just know and we'll put this in our newsletter of like the discussion questions because I do think this one is, I don't know if it's a general generational divide. They thought it might be a geographical divide. So they were like asking other people. They're like, it's... Yeah, but... Yeah. See, like I say it to my kids, like you're acting out of pocket. Yeah. When they're acting up. I've never heard that.

Starting point is 00:09:15 Really? No. And see, I've never liked out of pocket, meaning out of office or not working that day or whatever. Because to me, that then symbolizes I'm typically in a pocket, a pocket of oppression. You see what I'm saying? Like I'm being held in someone's crotch pocket. I'm held captive in this shit hole. Yes. It just feels ick. Give me the ick. Oh my gosh. I don't like out of pocket for being crazy. No, I don't like it for either.

Starting point is 00:09:50 I just don't think I like it for anyway, but I've said it and now I try to say it to be cool. I'm saying it always. Exactly. Oh. Introducing TD Insurance for Business with customized coverage options for your business. Because at TD Insurance, we understand that your business is unique, so your business insurance should be too. Whether you're a shop owner, a pet groomer, a contractor, or a consultant, you can get customized coverage for your business.

Starting point is 00:10:26 Contact a licensed TD insurance advisor to learn more. Well, on that note, let's get a little out of pocket here, I guess. I don't know. I'm in the loco way. We're going to end the episode right now. I know exactly. Goodbye. Bye.

Starting point is 00:10:44 And we will shift to our hot topic of this meeting, which is all about having friends at work. And the burning question is, can you really, really, really have friends at work? What do you think? I say yes. I say yes, I do. I say yes, you can. You absolutely can. Not with everybody and you might get burned, but I do. Yes. Yes. You could definitely get burned. So choose wisely and carefully, especially in HR. Yes. Lee? I would say I love the idea that you can have

Starting point is 00:11:21 friends at work. I have made people friends at work. And then you meet bestie Mike fucked me over. Well, not best. Didn't you work with bestie Mike college? Okay. You know what I mean? And so I have always been burned. But again, I look at it as shame on them, not shame on me. So you just have to be careful, right? You have to be really careful. And it's harder for HR. We're typically in a very lonely position where you sometimes it's frowned upon to even have, I'd say friends, acquaintances, absolutely lunch buddies, you know what I'm saying? Like people that you can go to, go to people, stupid question people, fantastic.

Starting point is 00:12:03 But sometimes it may just be you and your client or whoever in it together, lonely as hell. It's hard. Have you ever been burned? Has anyone ever been burned by a quote friend at work? I have not yet. That you know of. Yeah. Yeah. I have.

Starting point is 00:12:27 I haven't been in a career way. I've seen it. I've definitely seen where people have. I've had more of situations where it's like you think someone's your friend and then you kind of find out they're talking shit about you and it feels badly and it's also awkward because unlike the real world or social media where I can block someone, sometimes you have to work with that person and that feels really shitty. But what about you, Lee? What in those situations has it been more personal, professional

Starting point is 00:12:58 burning, all of the above? Lee Well, definitely professional burning, right? So what I've encountered are people attempting to get close to me, always in HR, to get inside scoops or deets or whatever. And then they turn around and they share those things to our shared leader, right? Because they're trying to get the promotion or whatever. And a lot of times I know that's happening. But the thing about me is I am very, hopefully you all can vouch for this, I am very authentically myself. I'm very genuine, sometimes perhaps overly direct. I like to roll my shit in sugar, but I overshare and I'm very trusting in that way. I trust everyone at

Starting point is 00:13:46 100%. And I really think shame on them if they fuck me with that information. I'm going to keep being who I am. Now, the second I know someone's a traitor or ugly, they're cut off for me. And I've done that. And I've told people, I do not trust you. I will only collaborate with you on work-related topics. Like I'll cringe. I will say that like that direct. I have, I've made people cry because I will just let them know. Everyone knows where they stand with me at all times, right? But I have certainly had situations where people have done that. They see potential in me. what a compliment, that I'm going to replace the leader, I'm going to move into whatever role they want, and they will be subversive. They will get close to me and try and screw me.

Starting point is 00:14:37 And I've even had that happen recently. And the leader actually told me, so for months, I knew this person was fucking with me. But that was like a colleague I had to work with. So I would even feed her misinformation and find out, guess what? Yeah, yeah. See your next level. I am next level, but I never let her know. I hope she listens to this podcast and hey, you can go fuck yourself. So you enjoy that promotion and that toxic ash job. That'll kill you. It already is. So enjoy. But I would have done it better. Just FYI. But I don't want to work for a place that condones shit like that. See, so I'm not going to compete. I'm not going to match bullshit for bullshit. Yeah, I don't want to play that game.

Starting point is 00:15:29 No, I'm not going to be ugly because it's not worth it for me to lose my integrity and my heart like that. You know what I mean? But yeah, so that has happened to me. So part of me is like, I love having acquaintances at work. I love having fun with people. I love having fun at work and joy and lunching, but I have found it hard to make true friends, although I've tried. It makes me sad and because you are such a good friend and we've become very, very good friends and so people really are missing out and any assumptions you make. I have, like I say, I joke, I have a yes face.

Starting point is 00:16:06 Jamie has a medium face. She can switch it on or off. It depends. She has a really good skills and that we can have absolutely have a no face. An absolutely no thank you at a conference, for example, to people. But, but people can interpret that as like standoffish, those things. But it really is to your detriment because there's so many layers of beautiful, beautiful friendship and giving and generosity.

Starting point is 00:16:31 And so it really is people's loss. And it's one of the things we say, as a podcast, we are colleagues in a way in that this is a business. And this is when you hear our ads and you do things and support us in part because that's what we appreciate it and we'll do that as opposed to charging you money to listen to the podcast unless you want to Venmo. But Lee has other things you can Venmo for. This is our business and so especially Lee and I both have our own businesses now and

Starting point is 00:17:02 not having big teams, it can mean a lot to have colleagues. And so those are very deep friendships that we have. They also started as friendships, like we didn't start intending to have things together. So I think that's a difference. But the levels of loneliness at work or where you spend time, I think, you know, I have absolutely had in almost, I mean, pretty much every job I've ever had people that I still am very deep, close friends with. And you have to, it does require next level thinking. Like, when I was in, actually, I have a better, I felt like I had a better approach with people

Starting point is 00:17:40 in HR because often where I worked in HR, when I worked in HR, people knew I didn't have like decisionmaking power. And so people weren't trying to get something out of me. When I was in legal, I did find that and had people that would want me to review things. Oh, like butter me up. Sometimes it'd be like a sales person. And I'm like, I've been in sales. I know exactly what you're doing right now.

Starting point is 00:18:01 And so I had to be a bit standoffish that and also say, like, and so I, you know, I had to, you know, be a bit standoffish that that and also like say like, you know, no, I can't like move this to the front of the stack. I'm not going to do that. And that's not fair to put me in a position to ask that, which tends to really put people back on their heels a little bit. But I have some really genuine friendships and I've had those with people that are subordinates to me. So I was their manager. I've had those with people that are my manager and I've had those with people that are subordinates to me, so I was their manager. I've had those with people that are my manager and I've had those with colleagues. And I do think there's things you have to be aware of and cautions you have to have because also while it can be really joyful to have people that you look forward to working with every day, it can

Starting point is 00:18:38 also hurt deeply when things happen at work and they have to have that different angle. And so it requires a lot of intentionality. And that's why when I said when I started out, there's times you will get burned. Nicole Jardim 08.00 Absolutely. Absolutely. And as I was listening to you, Ashley, making excellent points, I was just thinking about all the friends, I do air quotes, acquaintances, would probably be a better term that I've had throughout my career in other functions, so not HR, that would get close to me for protection to kind of use me in that way. And just FYI, I want you all to get close to your HR. You should develop relationships with these people. We are not scary, some of us aren't.

Starting point is 00:19:35 But us knowing you more helps you. It really does, nine times out of 10. But I can certainly, you can't bullshit a bullshitter. I can certainly tell when people are using me in that way. And unfortunately, that's happened a lot, right? So people trying to get close to me for promotions or whatever. Now the thing about me is it's easy for me to have a difficult conversation. So I'm not a yes person, as you all know. I'm always making the right decision for the business

Starting point is 00:20:11 and its people as much as possible. So it's like, yeah, way to kiss my ass and butter me up, but I'm sorry you did not get that promotion and here's why. But I've seen a lot of that, right? Like people trying to pretend to be your friends and it feels great. But it's kind of that sheep and wolves clothing or whatever adage. I suck at adages, but you know what I'm talking about.

Starting point is 00:20:33 It's faux. Well, we've been having this conversation. I've actually thought back and they're even back from my first job hour to college, there's people, coworkers that I still talk to on a regular basis that I consider my friends. But I think there's also a clear distinction between a coworker or colleague that's your friend in the office, but then there's the outside office friends. So all the people that I would consider a true friend are people that I form relationships outside of the office. And we've hung out

Starting point is 00:21:13 not once, but maybe I know your kids, I've been to your house, you've been in my house, you know my kids. We've planned things together. I've called you my work wife. Like, we'll come in thinking of someone very specific right now. And I think she listens to the pod, but we would, yeah, Meredith, we would literally come in and we would be wearing almost the exact same outfit. But you know, like we had a mutual trust, um, and we, she wasn't an HR, she was actually the executive assistant. Um, so it's like, you don't know when you're going into a new friendship, if this is someone who can be trusted.

Starting point is 00:21:58 So it's like, especially in HR, it's just such a fine line. So it's really just like almost wobbling on, I'm not going to open up to this person. There will be no company information shared unless it's like general company knowledge. And then when you really start to trust that person and know, and you're still like, oh, I'm going to be leery. But then, you know, this person had a lot of information too. So, you know, it wasn't, it was almost like having another HR colleague. But yeah, it's the trust outside of work I think that builds the most. I love that approach. I think when you were saying that, I thought back to my first job

Starting point is 00:22:39 out of college, or my first job out of college was actually in HR, but my second was like sales. When I was in DC and my friend, Cassie, who's now, she and I were like two of the only people that did that cold calling job that are now both ended up going to law school. The food bus? Yeah, we did the food bus. We had the food bus together and she's now has a kick ass, kick ass lawyer job, but we became friends through, I mean, I think like a shared misery. Sometimes it's like a shared misery. And so we ended up becoming really close and we would always be like, okay, get on the last train, on the orange train. So we'd roll into work together and we're having a bad day. And so I do think that's a really

Starting point is 00:23:20 good bellwether of like, is this person friend? Would I want to hang out with them outside work? Do I trust them? And all in having in your mind for a long time if being careful about the information that you share, if things that were to go south and some sometimes it's thinking about are you in like competition with this person? Are you judged against each other? Because that can lend to those tough dynamics. But I just think like some of the valuable friendships, I've had some workplaces, when I worked, I worked at KFC. KFC is notorious for, our team was very, very good friends in and outside of work. And it's kind of lightening a bottle.

Starting point is 00:23:59 And my first in-house job, I loved Sunday nights. I loved going to work and working with these people as genuine friends. I still text with almost all of these people. And so I do think there's a power in that. And it's in going through those human experiences, people have lost that have passed suddenly in those situations and it hurts deeply. But then having that level surround you, I've talked about situations, both my parents being ill, their colleagues that stepped up and really did this out of friendship, not obligation. I think there can be a power in it. It's just about having to be careful. And it's like life. In life, you're going to have friends that just really... It just is harder when it's at work and it can add a lot more terrible

Starting point is 00:24:40 dynamics. No, but the trauma bonding is real. And, yeah. And especially early career to mid career. You need that to survive and learn and develop. Or a very toxic work environment. Absolutely. That's actually a name of a text group that I have with former co-groups. It says trauma bonded. There you go.

Starting point is 00:24:59 I mean, so that is key. It's just as you continue to move up in your career, it becomes almost damn near impossible because it just becomes so freakishly political. Having recently left a toxic job, thinking I had some friends, not this treacherous one, the traitor one, but others that I would actually see outside of work, you know that the work environment is so extremely toxic and just run with fear when those folks that you know you form genuine relationships and connections with will not contact you because they're threatened not to contact you. And they're just trying to stay employed, God bless them. So I get that, but it's like, is anything

Starting point is 00:25:46 real? Yeah, it hurts. What were those three years? Well, that's why I think having some networking groups and finding your people. And so I know we've had the LinkedIn cringe episodes, but at times you can find people on LinkedIn that are, again, people you may not ever meet in person, but people that support each other genuinely. And again, like people often are in different industries, but go through those same, there's a lot of women's groups.

Starting point is 00:26:16 I know that I've been a part of things like that. And those can be helpful as well to have people that you can call on and be your people. And so I think sometimes it is looking outside of work. I do agree with you, especially as you move in your career can be harder to really have that genuine trust. That's an excellent action right there. I love that. That's great advice. All right. So transitioning to questions and comments. Ladies, do we have any questions or comments? Yeah. I have a question, quick question. Who is she and can I kill her? Don't worry. Karma is a bitch. Yes. Karma is a bitch.

Starting point is 00:26:59 That's what I believe. I don't believe it. I 100% believe it. Just sit back and watch. I believe. I don't know. I 100% believe it. And sometimes we don't get to see karma come back, but know that she always comes with a vengeance. It sure does. And people like that are already living horrific lives, lonely, sad lives. And that's absolutely true in this case. So that's all the best really, because you're going to need it. Good luck with that.

Starting point is 00:27:27 Because good luck with that. Any other questions or comments, Ashley? What is something that like a work acquaintance or something has done for you like very nice at work that stuck out to you? I mean, I am working with someone right now that I've worked with on and off for the last 10 years. And she, when I had my oldest, who will be seven, in a few short weeks, she came to my house.

Starting point is 00:27:57 Well, she came to the hospital, but she also then came to my house, brought me a full meal and a dessert that is to die for. And matter of fact, she is making me that dessert again, this upcoming Monday. I still talk about that. It's just like lemon cake, but a berry trifle. She's an insanely good cook. She's probably one of my closest work besties who's turned like real life bestie. She has a farm. I've gone to her farm. My boys have gone, she like knows my boys.

Starting point is 00:28:30 When her father was sick, I was there for her. When my mother was sick, you know, like we just, we are not just coworkers anymore. So she's, she's just done things for me that I am very thankful for. And she's a huge piece of my life now at this point. Oh, I love that. I've been sent flowers and alcohol and gift cards and whatever, just gifts of appreciation, which I love. That means a lot, right?

Starting point is 00:29:00 When people recognize you and see you out of their own pocket, like in a personal way. But what's always meant most to me are the handwritten letters. And so I love the words of affirmation and that sort of attention there that are, you know, things that are heartfelt. And I think when people take the time and effort to do that, that's incredible. And so I do have a box of like all the handwritten notes and cards that I've received throughout my career, you know? And so that just reminds me that, oh, okay, I make a difference, you know? So those things mean a lot to me. What about you, Ashley? I had a, she was a colleague, then she became my direct report. And then she was always

Starting point is 00:29:42 a friend, Natalie from KFC, from KFC legal team, Natalie, who now lives in Montana. She moved and lives near Yellowstone. Oh, good to visit. So she was always just very thoughtful, very funny, like helped prank my office. I loved working with her. But also two things. One is I once made international night and I was supposed to make latkes for my kid's school and I didn't know how to make them. And so I made basically hash browns and I was showing this picture to the team of this big contraption that I made and she left. And so she remembered and so she ended up getting me a little

Starting point is 00:30:31 chopper, like a little chopper so I could chop and make them. And it was like months later, very thoughtful. And then right before we moved to Australia, she handmade hats for my kids, sun hats, because she read, which is true there, because there's the hole in the ozone layer, which I don't know if you remember that. It's a real thing. It's over Australia. And so you have to wear hats when you're outside playing. And so she made these very cute hats for my kids. And it was like, you know, that type of like handmade and very thoughtful. I love that. Yes, Natalie's Natalie's really Natalie listens to Natalie listens to HR besties. She comments on our stuff. So she'll now this will be my test if she's listening to this episode. I'll give her a flag.

Starting point is 00:31:06 I'm hoping for an invite. Yes, yes. I would do a girls trip. She will. She absolutely will. She has Yellowstone and the beautiful sky. On a ranch. Oh my God. Totally. Totally. She said she, although she posts a lot of pictures of bears around town. So I may need her to back off those a little bit and just let me live in denial. So yeah,

Starting point is 00:31:23 but Nat is great. Oh, shout out to Nat. Is it my turn for a question or comment? So just a quick question, not a comment. No, no, no, not a question, but a quick comment. It is a comment. Maybe it's some rhetorical questions. I don't know. rhetorical questions. I don't know. But what I would say is that toxic workplaces do not exist on accident. They exist because of people. And some people are assholes. There's assholes everywhere. And so if you are an asshole in the workplace, just let that be known. And what I mean by that is be upfront with people as much as you can. Don't be manipulative. There's no need for that bullshit.

Starting point is 00:32:16 Life is short. Okay. Try and win something on your own merits for once. I give you that test there. But the workplace is only healthy if we all dedicate our time to making it healthy. I mean, that's just how it is. So as someone who's been burned by people in the workplace multiple times, especially my handful of sociopathic, literally hadn't tested, narcissist bosses. Is it really worth it? You know, is it really worth it? The reason why they do that is because they have nothing better to focus on and nothing great going on at home and that just sucks

Starting point is 00:32:57 for them. So I always remember that. But it is not a reflection of you. If you are being manipulated by someone who's pretending to be your friend at work, they are totally exploiting your good heart. And that's a shame on them, not a shame on you. So hang in there, pick up on the cues and red flags and be as open and honest in your relationships with colleagues and in your personal life as much as you can. So just people know where they stand, right? Not in an ugly way. But again, there's no reason to bullshit anybody about anything. There really isn't. So communication is key. That's my comment there. And also fuck, fuck you if you find me.

Starting point is 00:33:40 I have a hard stop. I got the hard stop. I'm about to go get out of pocket on Lee's ex friend. Ah, there you go. Take a picture. Oh gosh. Well, on that note, we appreciate you besties. We consider you friends. That's for sure. We're definitely in this together and thank you. So continue to like, follow, and share!

HR BESTIES - Friends at Work

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