HR BESTIES - HR Besties Happy Hour – Advice For Leaders, Courtesy of the All In Podcast

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

Welcome back to another Happy Hour, Besties! We’re sure as hell glad it’s Friday. In this Happy Hour: Get ready for the HR Besties trip to San Antonio Lessons in Spanish and Italian Three nuggets of wisdom from Chamath Palihapitiya and the All In Podcast gang Answering listener submitted questions Your To-Do List: Grab merch, submit Questions & Comments, and make sure that you’re the first to know about our In-Person Meetings (events!) at https://www.hrbesties.com. Follow your Besties across the socials and check out our resumes here: https://www.hrbesties.com/about.  We look forward to seeing you in our next meeting - don’t worry, we’ll have a hard stop! Yours in Business + Bullsh*t,  Leigh, Jamie & Ashley Follow Bestie Leigh! https://www.tiktok.com/@hrmanifesto https://www.instagram.com/hrmanifesto https://www.hrmanifesto.com Follow Bestie Ashley! https://www.tiktok.com/@managermethod  https://www.instagram.com/managermethod https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyherd/ https://managermethod.com Follow Bestie Jamie! https://www.millennialmisery.com/ Humorous Resources: Instagram • YouTube • Threads • Facebook • X Millennial Misery: Instagram • Threads • Facebook • X Horrendous HR: Instagram • Threads • Facebook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, everybody. Happy Friday. We made it. Barely. It's Good Friday. So to all those who are getting ready for Easter, happy Easter and hope some people are off work today and just listening to us on a more relaxing day. Yeah. The kids had spring break this week, so we're going to die some eggs today. Oh, that's nice.

We need to get ready and prepare for next weekend. Oh my God, yes. The ladies are joining me in San Antonio. Now is it y'all's first time in San Antonio? Yes, both of us. Same. Yeah, I've been to Houston and Dallas, but I've's first time in San Antonio? Yes. Both of us. Yeah. I've been to Houston and Dallas, but I've heard that Austin and San Antonio are the

fun cities, funnest in Texas. So I'm super hyped. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, obviously I'm biased, but what's crazy about Texas cities that they're all so different, right? Because Texas is a big bitch. It's huge.

It's very huge. It is. It is. And so, you so, San Antonio is very unique. They all are. All the big cities are. But April is our big fun fiesta month. We have a lot of events and things going on. So it's busy. Everything's buzzing like we talked about in last week's happy hour. So we're going to have some fun, do our besties meet and greet and spend like, what do we have? I think 16 hours worth of filming, like slated or reserved, you know? And so super excited about that. So we thank you all for all your suggestions

on content, future content that is incorporated. So hopefully you'll see some of your recommendations and hot topics that you wanted us to cover, you know, coming up here in future episodes. Yeah, we can't wait. And you'll see and follow us on the socials on our TikTok and Instagram at HRBestiesPod to see some of our scenes. I love to make a good video with music behind it of all of our fun times. Yes. Ashley does such a good job I'd love to make a good video with music behind it of all of our fun times. Yes. Ashley does such a good job on those. They're very easy to do thanks to technology.

So I'm pumped. So what are y'all looking forward to most visiting San Antonio? Just curious. I know it's not a tourist trip per se, it's a work trip, but still. Yeah, it's a work trip. Well, I always like to have fun. I like just the river walk. Yeah, it's a work trip. I always like to have fun. I like just the river walk.

I love a good body of water. I mean, like in Louisville, the city line is very much defined by the Ohio River. Here in Atlanta, downtown is not, but I live close to the Chattahoochee River. So that's kind of my mentor. Jamie's gone with me. Yeah, Jamie's gone with me walking my dog Rosie on the Chattahoochee River. So that's kind of my mental escape. Jamie's gone with me. Jamie's gone with me walking my dog Rosie on the Chattahoochee and in Sydney and we live right on the harbor. And so I love, I love a body of water. So I'm excited to stroll holding hands with you all along the San Antonio River.

Oh yeah. And you would probably try to do that too. You want to be locked arms. Let's not try. I'll say, guys, can someone take our picture? Then I got my phone stolen. I was trying to skip down the river walk with you all. Oh my God. Such is life. I'm most excited about matching Jami's.

Oh my God. You see, y'all are just kind of cringing me out a little bit. If you're an introvert on the phone, just know that I am as well surrounded by two very extroverted co-hosts here. So I'm doing my best. But I love them. We're all different. It's wonderful.

But matching Jammies. I know, right? Matching Jammies. That's like in the interview when you're interviewing, as they're really cringing, you're like, God, I have to laugh right now. Exactly. So Jamie's looking forward to those matching PJs. And I'm not kidding, Ashley, you said Riverwalk. And so I wrote that down. I'm showing the ladies Riverwalk with like a star.

Like I have that on my action sheet for y'all's visit. Oh, shit, y'all want to go to the Riverwalk. Okay. Let's make sure that happens for you all. So we'll do that. And then of course, I'm probably going to have to get you all some breakfast tacos and some pasteles, like some sweet bread and all that. So I'm going to start by the panaderia. I'll probably take you all too. We can pick out some good shit that we can snack on. I can't wait. You know, I speak Spanish. I speak Spanish. No, I didn't know you.

No, I didn't know that. I was a Spanish major in college, Spanish and international studies. I have no fucking idea. What the fuck? We went to Costa Rica last year for spring break or I guess two years ago for spring break. And then we went with two other families. And I guess I'd forgotten to like literally forgotten to mention it. And we were the bus driver was going and he starts talking and I was like, oh, and so I turned and I'm like, oh, that's fine. We're all going to go to McDonald's. And I went, my friends are like, the fuck do we plan this trip to Costa Rica and you don't mention that you speak Spanish? I was like, like, who are you? Right? Like

Jamie and our like shock face like wait,'re now learning this. That is very cool. Well, I'm sure you can teach me something because I just got that Spanglish, really. Well, no, I'm not a native speaker, but... Well, me neither. Yeah, I did. I've spoken Spanish since I was like six years old. That's awesome. Damn. When we lived in Australia from 2016 to 2018, my kids were little, there they teach languages

and they choose what language you'll learn based on kind of the majority population in the area. And so where we lived, which was Balmain, Birch Grove area of Australia, it was a very, I guess, Italian. And so my kids learned Italian at school. As their one line, starting in preschool, preschool. They taught them, like still to this day, my kids will learn it. And I always thought it was so funny that we lived in Australia and my kids learned Italian. Oh, and see, I love Italian. Like my accent is actually better

Italian. So when I studied abroad in Italy, my mom was born in Italy. People think I'm Italian, but I'm not. I'm like Spanish and Mexican and Native American and all sorts of, you know, blends of things. But I freaking love Italian because it's so melodic. Do we bigly at the Santa Maria Novella? Like I love the way it sounds like, you know, and so my Spanish sucks because it's hard for me to like physically do it with my mouth, you know? That sounded terrible. Oh my god. Yeah. I was like, perv. That's terrible. Oh, my god. Yeah, I was like, purr. That's what she said. Well, I still remember in my Spanish class, we had to like memorize 100 sentences. And it was like random sentences. And it's like the stuff you remember. So to this day, I remember, cuando el profesor de pollo los examines, Martin temeró miro al suyo. When the teacher gave back the test, Martin was afraid to look at his.

I will never fucking forget that sentence for the rest of my life. And so I'm probably trying to order that at McDonald's as opposed to everything else. But it's like that shit that sticks with you. Well, I have a Spanish sentence as well that I, actually it's a song that we use to sing in Spanish class. Don't they stop me. Spant alone. It's not me. Spant alone. Where are my pants? Yeah. When you're in high school and you're in Spanish class, you do dumb shit.

Yeah. We used to, we watched stand and deliver in Spanish class, you do dumb shit. Yeah. We watched Stand and Deliver in Spanish class over and over. Ganas de triunfar. I fucking love Stand and Deliver, but watching it in Spanish, like, I mean, I can just, like, we watched that, like, seven times in a row, as you do, you know, in what listed in the 90s in high school. Okay, wait though, I have a question. So, dude, this is probably, like, a Southern thing, but did you all have to pick like a Spanish name for your Spanish class? Like I'm sure Lee did not have this in her class. Okay, so what was yours?

Burra. B-U-R-R-A. Donkey. I swear to God. That's amazing. Like I'm an ass. Yeah. Mine was.

Because mine's Ashley. And so my, that sounds awful. Like my friends would nickname me ass. Like, and that Any I'm gonna stop there. But so my Spanish name was Burra and I had a cutout of a donkey on my Time magazine on my binder your state. Well, that's amazing See Ava like Ava or Ava like Evie. Oh, Ava Ava like Ava really EVA And I don't know why or what I I mean, I picked it, but I'm

not sure why, because I didn't want to be Jaime. So because it sounds like Jaime. My face right now, right? Like my face, I'm like, At least like my Spanish name is no. What? Nunca, never. They gave you all like, they tried to.

Yes, that's why I said it's probably like a Southern. No, but they do that now. My kids did. My son came home and he was like, he was... I guess you're not going to see that in Bexar County. Yeah, he came home and he was like, he tried to pick Mario. He tried to pick Mario, but he's like, oh, but there's so many Marios. He's like, I don't want to be Mario H. And so I think he changed to like, Bicdor.

Okay. So you're not going to see that in Bex where San Antonio is, where it's like 75% of Hispanic. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, they already have, right? They, yeah, they already have. And they'd be like WTF?

Yeah, why? We're going to change your name to like some... Oh my gosh. Though not appropriate though now. I know. I'm learning. It's so not okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of, that's different, you know, but regions, cultures, right? They're all different. You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of, that's different, you know? But regions, cultures, right? They're all different, you know what I mean? Okay, okay. But they're trying to do a little immersion, right? They're trying to get people closer to it or whatever.

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I think Ashley had a little current event people have been messaging her about. Very happy, our appropriate. I covered this one in about 50 seconds in a TikTok last week, but I think we should do it. So this comes from the All In podcast. Never heard of it. It's really a political podcast. Oh, that's why. But it's by four or five hosts, all men. And one of them's a discussion

off, Shemoth, who's like a billionaire friend of Elon Musk, which enough said, there you go. And he's an investor. He's, he's the head of a fund called Social Capital. So they invest and all that. But he did this on the podcast. And there's a video on TikTok and said, in the companies where I take majority control, there is no HR department. We do not have an HR department and his rationale is all they do is create conflict and get in the way of people doing their jobs. And so he recommends three things. So you can eliminate your HR department if you do three things. One is to have an outside law firm lawyer on retainer, like a law firm employment lawyer. They'll take care of things.

Oh, yeah. That's not expensive at all. Right. Two is to let employees choose their own benefits. And three, that hiring managers should run their own hiring processes. So the example he gives, head of engineering, have them, they do all the hiring today. I certainly had my thoughts. I put those on the social media, but Jamie Lee, what do you think about not having any HR department? Yeah. I mean, when you sent this, my blood started to boil and I was ready to go at in the comments, you know, like how I am, but I refrained because I knew we were going to talk about it on our happy hour. So I bear to ask who the fuck is actually doing then those HR tasks in the company because

there is, there has to be. You might not have an HR department, but someone is providing the HR task. I'm talking the I-9s, the onboarding. There's still tasks that HR does. The first point that he made is so fucking disappointing. We create conflict. Are you fucking kidding me? All I do is try to fizzle out conflict. That's been my entire life for the last 20 years because I've always had a really heavy focus on employee relations. So that's like insanely disappointing. Point two, the benefits.

Oh, please. Like, I would love to see that happen. Like, you know, I'm the one having to explain to employees what a PEO is and an HSA. And good God. And then the third one, can you imagine? Anybody. Engineers like doing phone screens and then like up with interviews and making offers and keeping the offer letters legal, but even just not biased.

Oh my God. It just sounds like a nightmare, but whatever to each their own, I guess. But you're wrong. Right. I mean, I think that he comes from a significant place of privilege to have that sort of opinion. You know what I mean? So all I hear is like this insane disconnect of leadership, right? He being up here and forgetting the people that actually do the work and their employee experience in doing the work and the support they may need in doing the work and the resources and all of that. may need in doing the work and the resources and all of that. But to me, this is just another prime example of just the lack of complete understanding of what HR actually is and does

in an organization. People have no idea that it's like the full employee lifecycle. You're an employee, I'm an employee. It's like that whole experience, that full life cycle, everything from that first phone call and all the way until you retire or quit. So there is so much in that behind the scenes. And so I often wonder, is that, I mean, there's no one to blame per se, but I wonder, is that a failure of us as HR professionals for not vocalizing or sharing more or communicating our value and educating on what HR is and does? You know what I mean? You know, so I picked up on that like 10 years ago career wise and I started doing that every

time I entered a new job, like explaining here's what the fuck I actually do here I want to make sure you get it and that we're on terms here, you know So yeah, just from thinking of like a proactive way to you know combat leaders from even being this fucking stupid to think this You know, is that partly on us? I don't know I think it's on the leaders that come from a place of privilege that think about things in the terms of spreadsheets. And I mean by that, like not thinking about the names and faces and the consequences of your actions. And so and as a result, I think I don't think it's HR's fault.

I think a lot of people are put in that position. You don't have training, you know, they pull them in and the positions, it's not staffed, it's not trained, it's not valued, it's disparaged. And so, you know, you expectations become reality. And so if you have a very lean person, they can't do anything proactively. So they can't work with employees. So this is how you advocate for yourself. This is how you work better.

These are the things. And so this idea that like HR creates conflict to me, and sure, there's absolutely situations where you have someone that doesn't get it, they breach confidentiality or they don't get back to people. And that's why a lot of what we do is talk about in HR things that you can do is just having that welcoming approach and meeting people where they are and doing what you can. And to Lee's point, talking about what you do. But this aspect, what I have heard from leaders, again, often leaders in privilege, they'll say, okay, well, we have EPLI, that is employment practices liability insurance. So if they get a discrimination claim for companies in the US, globally, I don't know how that works as much. But in

the US, everyone says, oh, what's our EPLI? What's our deductible? $40,000. Okay. Okay. Well, so willing to just laugh, we'll make a choice. Thanks for that. We'll pay 40,000 and then we'll move on with life. Well, okay, that 40,000 is often going. Like I talked to a friend last week and was like, what's your rate right now? Just $1,600 an hour as an employment lawyer. And I will say professionally,

the worst version of myself was as an outside law firm employment lawyer. And what I mean by that is because my job was to be beholden to the company and do everything to minimize that risk. I still brought a lot of perspective in this and tried to bring that in. But it's by far the least satisfying for me because a lot is trying to win in litigation

and it just feels fucking shitty to beat an employee that's had a bad experience. That was for me. That's why I didn't do it. But you are also looking at people on a spreadsheet. But so when you when you work with with people, you know, you pay a $40,000 deductible, you're paying things to your buddy who's going to take you to the Masters or to the Wimbledon or whatever, because you're giving them these law firm rates. And so you guys all think all is fine and good. And this is a cost of

doing business. But what that means to that individual employee, they're going to put things on Glassdoor, but everybody else sees what you're doing. And that creates the environment. And the way people work, they see how you treat other people. And if you don't value people and what they do, you're never going to live up to your full potential

as a business. And so that's why that, for me, it's like you'd rather pay some lawyer $1,600 an hour than have like five good HR people that you pay $100 an hour? How does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's fucking wild. And it's sad because I feel like even in the last 20 years that I've been in HR, I feel like there has been such a shift and HR is viewed differently than it was even when I was first in it. And so it's disappointing to still hear people talk about HR like that because I feel like we've all worked so hard. And even with our social channels, right? I mean, I feel like all of us have kind of tried to break that stigma of HR is bad, like inherently. And so it's just always, it's disappointing when you see something like that. Yeah, it sucks to be viewed as a administrative cost center that doesn't provide value to an organization.

And I would submit that HR may not provide value in some organizations, and those are the organizations that don't prioritize their people, to Ashley's point. You know what I mean? And organizations that don't have a strategic business continuity focus. They're not looking ahead 20 years on the effects of brand and reputation and credibility on their business. They're kind of in the moments and that's how they're operating. It's just wild, all the different types of people. What I will add at the end of this happy hour, because I know we have the stops, but

I put my lawyer hat to Ashley back on and did a little bit of due diligence. And I was like, let's see what let's see what Chamath and his fund, let's see how much he lives up to things. So I'm looking up his fund, who they have, who they have stakes in. And it wasn't and I was like, okay, well, it's hard to tell who you have majority control is, which he says, you know, if company if I have majority control, they won't have an HR department. But I'm like, well, this is his fund. So I was searching like lead, lead, lead round. It's like seeing who he was, his company was a lead investor.

And so I found companies that at least his fund has invested in. I'm like, the first few I found, I'm like, oh, here we go. Look him up on LinkedIn. They have HR departments and they have people departments. And so I don't know what companies he's talking about where there's no HR department and these people are picking their own benefits. My guess is those are companies with two people. But what he's talking about to me is like fantasy land. And then I found that like just a couple of weeks ago,

it was like his own fund had to fire two partners and bring in a law firm to do an investigation based on what was called a situation about, you know, look up the article. But I was like, oh, so now he's reaping what he sows and paying, you know, God knows how much money and the law firm, I know, like, I would guess it's 1600 or more an hour is probably right. Paying these fees to do investigations to deal with things that if people had more expectations maybe would not have happened. So it is an absolute road to nowhere. And

so I got my research hat on for that one. And I'm like, that's also like what you're talking about. I don't think it's happening. So that's, I'd be curious to see how it does. You sussed out that he's full of shit. Surprise. Tell me what those companies are. Let's look at their glass door reviews. Let's see the benefits packages that you're offering. Anyway, you got me. We need a round of shots after that. Don't stress me the fuck out. Oh, I know. Shots, shots, shots. We need something joyful and happy hour-ish. What if we just take an icebreaker question or two? Yes. Oh, yeah. Let's do the palate cleanser. Exactly. Just a

little a pair of teeth because our listeners, you all submit so many fun questions, crazy questions, insightful questions. And so we certainly want to honor those and highlight those with you all. So let me see. I have kind of this little running list of things that you have you have asked us. Okay, here's one and I think this is quite clever. Ladies, what's the most creative excuse you've ever heard from an employee for being late to work? What do you got? Do y'all have anything, Cray? Your own crazy excuses? Well, once I was not going to work, and I should have been, when I was going to work in an office

and I was pregnant and my maternity pants split, I mean split like big gaping hole. And I'd driven from Decatur, where I lived then, in Atlanta to Buckhead, which is a lot of traffic. Those in Atlanta will know. And so I was right there. And I had a big old hole.

And I had to make that decision. And so I walked like a stick figure legs together the whole time. I wouldn't leave. I would have Jimmy John's hole and I had to make that decision. So I walked like a stick figure, legs together the whole time. I wouldn't leave. I went to Jimmy John's delivery. I was not leaving. I wouldn't go to the bathroom that day. So I've had that when I probably could have stood to just gone home and change my pants. But Atlanta traffic is a beast.

Jay, what you got? Yeah, I've had one, but I actually support it that they weren't feeling like working that day, that the vibes were off. Oh yeah, I've used that. Yeah, I mean, the vibes are off. The vibes are off. Fuck it. Girls stay home.

Take a mental health day. I love that. I love they didn't even make anything up. Honestly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I do that. How comfortable would you feel to be able to say that in like, what does that say about the entire working relationship?

Love it. Yeah, I did a video recently about calling in amazing. Like calling in stick. Absolutely. Definitely do that. Don't become a nowhere sick, but call in amazing, too. Like sometimes you just feel so good. You don't want to waste it in the workplace. Yeah. So call in amazing. That's amazing. That is amazing.

I've definitely done that. You know, I don't really care when people come to work. So I can't even recall a time people have told me they're going to be late or you know what I'm saying, even as a leader, you know, so I just kind of lead that way. Like, hey, just do what you need to do when you need to do it, you know. But I will tell you one time I had a, and I still need to do a video on this, I had a manager reach out to me and say, hey, I just want to let you know that a bomb went off across the street from our facility.

And this thing made global news. I won't get into it. You could probably Google it and find it, but a bomb went off across the street and there's helicopters and SWAT team and FBI and CIA and all these bomb squad. I mean, it's a freaking nightmare. And I was like, oh my gosh, is everyone okay? Oh yeah, everything, everything, they've got the situation handled. I was like, well, thank you so much for letting me know. And then he says, toxic ass bitch, he says, yeah, I just want to let you know, because

you need to give yourself some extra time to get to work then this morning. So then I reply, is it safe? And he goes, well, technically, when you think about it, it's probably the safest place in the world right now, because there's so many police and everybody's here, all the agencies. Oh my God, stop. That is so rude. That is so rude.

Hard stop. Am I dumbass? No. You know, wimp. Stupid. But come on, you know, like really give yourself some extra time this morning to get to the bomb place. Like wait, what?

Actually, that's not funny. I'm sorry. some extra time this morning to get to the bomb place. Like, wait, what? It's... Actually, that's not funny. I'm sorry. Oh my gosh. So I don't know. That didn't really answer that question, but... Oh, here we go. Here's another one that I liked and I kept it.

I mean, I like all y'all's comments, but here's a funny one. If you could ban one overused buzzword, cringe corporate speak from resumes, which would it be and why? From resumes? Yeah, is there a word that you all see come up on resumes? That's just annoying. I'd say helped.

Oh, yeah. Helped, because I feel like that, like, just, like, whatever you did, I feel like that's people that are, like, underestim I feel like that's people that are like underestimating what they're doing in the importance of what they did and giving you know all the credit to others like I can own what you did. What did you do? I hope or even assisted Assisted helped I made shit happen. And so you you own that and you made you made things happen So that's what I'd say to own your action, not just look at yourself as a...

That's a good one. Yeah, that's a really good one actually. Okay, well thank you. Do the strong action verbs. Yes. And you can Google those. Yeah, the chat GPT can be helpful as well. Don't put confidential information in there. But if you do that and do, it can help you and... Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Could you ask chat GPT to like scrub your resume for cringy buzzwords? Yes, I would say it. Put it in there and write, can you skip cringy buzzwords? Again, you

never know. Chat GPT is a learning tool, so it may come back with some crazy shit. It'll have, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is iterative and then you can say, okay, well, I don't like this and I like that. Ashley is a resident AI expert. She's a LinkedIn instructor and has a course coming out on this. So we all have to keep a lookout. Coming out in two weeks, I think from today when you're listening to this. So, holy, holy. Look at you. Oh, that is exciting.

I think for me on the resume, it's not a buzzword. Here I go. I never follow the rules, do I ladies? Oh my God. But it's a section that sometimes I'm like, like, even though I'm all about like authenticity and, you know, being yourself, I don't like it when there's like hobbies on the resume, but I don't like it for the people because I think of all the asshole leaders that I've supported that will totally have conscious and unconscious bias on some of those things there. And so I'm like, oh gosh, I am interested in you, I promise, but that kind of gives me a little cringe when I just see a lot of the hobbies literally listed out. You know what I'm talking about, interests or whatever. It's a little much. If you're going to

do that, just make it super general, like community service, but don't tell me what you're servicing. Breathing, breathing. Breathing, exactly. Community service. I pick up trash on the highway because I've been arrested before. Exactly, because my probation requires it. I need 30 hours. Oh gosh. Anything for you, Jamie?

Anything? Buzzwords? What do you think? The photo? Cringe? Resume? Port? Parts. Oh. Yeah. So I'm not necessarily, I don't hate the photos because I understand like in different countries

having your photo on your resume is actually a cultural thing and a lot of different countries do that. I think for me really is like email addresses. So I, you know, and I'm not, I don't judge you, but here's the thing. I've seen some crazy ass shit. I remember someone literally having the email address, and this is for like a clinical, high level clinical position. Okay. Keep that in mind. And it was like Doobie Smoker 420. I'm like, okay, well, I mean, whatever you do on your off time is none of my fucking business. But this is for like high clinical licensed role or like, God, what is something else

that I saw like crazy bitch 69 or like. I've had hates to work 6969 at hotmail.com. I've done videos on that because it just sticks with me. Yeah. That's the one thing. Email addresses are free. Just open up a new Gmail address with your name. Let's just think about it a little bit.

I know. It's one of those professionalism things, you know? Oh, like you said, you hate to judge. They do make me laugh though. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I hate to judge. And I don't, and I actually reached out to Doobie Smoker. Yeah, to give him the feedback.

Yeah. For the position. Yeah, no, for the position. I really did reach out to her. We didn't end up hiring her. She was a little flaky, go figure. But I'm not kidding too. She was a little flaky, go figure. But I'm not kidding too. She was a little flaky. But you know, that's the thing is like, I try not to put a bias on it, but I can tell you if I pass that resume to the hiring manager, the hiring manager will be like,

absolutely not. I'm not hiring Doofy Smoker 420 as my nurse practitioner. I know, right? Oh gosh. Sometimes those little things they do leave a lasting impression. You only have one chance to make a first impression and you may end up on an HR person's fridge. I've put a couple of resumes on my fridge before. So we do appreciate the quick chuckle, but probably want to shy away from 69 in your email if you're trying to find a job. Just the pro tip, Friday pro tip, happy hour pro tip. In those June 9th birthdays, because I have a very good friend who's AOL screening back

in the day, editing 6ix9ine and his birthday is 6ix9ine. He listens to the podcast. Oh my God. But yeah, your June 9th birthday just... Yeah, don't have your birthday in your email anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, June 9th, 1969 is probably the double success. Oh man, I didn't think about that.

That helps. Oh gosh, well on that note, shout out to those June 9th birthdays. But hey, everybody enjoy their weekend. Survive the rest of Friday. Happy Easter to those celebrating. Hopefully everyone else enjoy the weekend. Yes, TGIFF besties.