HR BESTIES - HR Besties Happy Hour - $HRM Says No to Equity
Episode Date: July 12, 2024Welcome back to another Happy Hour, Besties! We’re sure as hell glad it’s Friday. A key topic of this episode is the HR Besties reaction to the news from SHRM (Society for Human Resource Manageme...nt) that they’re removing “Equity” from their focus on DEI. In this Happy Hour: Besties Reunited R & R recap SHRM and DEI Friday Feel Goods Your To-Do List: Grab merch, submit Questions & Comments, and make sure that you’re the first to know about our In-Person Meetings (events!) at https://www.hrbesties.com. Follow your Besties across the socials and check out our resumes here: https://www.hrbesties.com/about. We look forward to seeing you in our next meeting - don’t worry, we’ll have a hard stop! Yours in Business + Bullsh*t, Leigh, Jamie & Ashley Follow Bestie Leigh! https://www.tiktok.com/@hrmanifesto https://www.instagram.com/hrmanifesto https://www.hrmanifesto.com Follow Bestie Ashley! https://www.tiktok.com/@managermethod https://www.instagram.com/managermethod https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyherd/ https://managermethod.com Follow Bestie Jamie! https://www.millennialmisery.com/ Humorous Resources: Instagram • YouTube • Threads • Facebook • X Millennial Misery: Instagram • Threads • Facebook • X Horrendous HR: Instagram • Threads • Facebook Tune in to “HR Besties,” a business, work and management podcast hosted by Leigh Elena Henderson (HRManifesto), Ashley Herd (ManagerMethod) and Jamie Jackson (Humorous_Resources), where we navigate the labyrinth of corporate culture, from cringe corporate speak to toxic leadership. Whether you’re in Human Resources or not, corporate or small business, we offer sneak peeks into surviving work, hiring strategies, and making the employee experience better for all. Tune in for real talk on employee engagement, green flags in the workplace, and how to turn red flags into real change. Don't miss our chats about leadership, career coaching, and takes from work travel and watercooler gossip. Get new episodes every Wednesday and Friday, follow us on socials for the latest updates, and join us at our virtual happy hours to share your HR stories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello besties. TGIF. Oh, it's so good to be reunited. Reunited and it feels so good.
I know. Well, we took last week off.
Everyone deserves a little break, don't they?
Yeah, a little R&R.
We were celebrating Independence Day.
I feel like everyone's off.
Oh, I know.
Like this month of July.
I do.
I get, I may mention this because I send a newsletter normally and I get out of offices
and I love the out of offices that I get, but I do do my own little data survey
because I have about 7,000 on my manager method email
and I did get a very high volume recently of all of those.
So, survey says that people are taking time off
and we join them.
Who are we to not fall in line?
Yeah, enjoy your PTO people, that's what it's for.
Use it or lose it, most people.
Except in Colorado and California.
Right. And other countries, if you're listening. Oh, in Arizona. Massachusetts and all the way.
All the asterisks, right? Nothing can be easy, not even PTO.
Do you have any questions? Just ask 650. Yes. Shout out.
ChatGPT, Google, all of that. ChatGPT will be like, do a hands. We'll find out if ChatGPT is employer or employee friendly.
It'll be like, pay out everywhere.
Oh, there you go.
There you go.
I'm going to test this out while you talk about things because I am curious.
I'm curious too, actually.
Right.
Well, gosh, we are reunited.
And we did take last week off from happy hour, which was a nice break,
like we said, and a few of us had vacations recently. So I don't know how those went,
ladies. Anything to share? Yeah, mine was great. We went to Orange Beach,
Alabama. I've been going there since I was eight years old. So I'm super familiar with it. And we
had a surprise guest on ours, which was super exciting. My oldest,
which is my stepson, came down with his girlfriend. And that was super, well, one, it was a giant
surprise to us, but it was, it meant the world to my husband and I because, you know, he's 16. He's
too cool to go on vacation with parents almost now. So we don't know how many more vacations
we're going to get with him. So that was very special for us and a nice surprise.
Now, how much time did you vacation versus doing work?
Be honest, be honest.
I definitely vacationed more than worked.
So I would say, but I 25% worked
because I did have to present
benefits open enrollment stuff.
And then, you know, a decision had to be made by the Friday I was on vacation.
So going back and forth with, you know, so it was a little bit more work than I would
like, but definitely more PTOing than anything.
Tsk, tsk.
It's a journey, but I suppose there's nothing that will drive you to a cold daiquiri or
drink than an open enrollment.
Those white cloths were flowing.
Yeah, that is your thing.
That's my trick of choice.
I did like that at an office hat, which if I recall, you purchased that in San Antonio.
So you look styling on the beach.
Whenever I wear it, people are like, where did you get it?
And I'm like, oh, you can't have it.
It's custom.
You have to go to San Antonio, which actually, if you do a quick Google search, you can't
find it in other stores.
I love that hat.
I got one too.
I wore it last week on my vacation.
Oh, did you?
Yeah, I got comments on it.
Like, oh, that's a great hat.
It's a good one.
I know.
See, I need that hat.
I didn't get one. But I know
it's like right down the street. I know where to get it. But I would love to wear that hat
while working. Oh, I know. Like show up to a meeting with that hat. Exactly. This is
my personality for the day. That's kind of rude. That'll get me fired. We need some new
merch. We do have merch if you all don't know. We do have, we do have merch, but I think we need some, some good merch lines. We got requests for, from some people
at, at Shurm and not to foreshadow, but talk about a topic we'll, we'll hit on today. But
yeah, it's, it's good to be back.
Yeah. How was your vacation?
Yes.
It was great. We went down to the Dominican Republic. I'd never been there before. It was
like the weekend before. I feel like I don't pay enough attention to things like weather or really like eclipses.
I constantly feel like you find out about these once every 30 year events like two days
before and I'm like, oh my God, I'd normally be so excited for this.
But the weekend before people did flag that Hurricane Barrel was coming.
And we did land as Hurricane Barrel was kind of close to the Dominican Republic. So the flight was a little dodgy. But thankfully they didn't get hit like Jamaica
did, which was pretty rough. But we had a really nice time, wonderful people, had a
great time, really checked out. Aside from spending time, I was refreshing my docket
because the FTC's non-compete ban, like the first court decision came out on that.
So you can go look at my social media about that. In short, it is not struck down yet for everyone,
but come August 30th is when one Texas judge is going to be announcing a decision. And I personally
anticipate she will be halting it and it's supposed to take effect September 4th. So I've
incurred more legal
docket fees than I have in my entire life in the past three months. It's by the quarter.
So I just got my bill for that. And so if you do see some sponsored content on my channel,
it's because I got to pay for my PACER bill. So hook us this up. But anyway, it was a great,
it was a really great vacation.
So let me ask you then, how much did you work while on vacation?
Because you were filming vids and all that.
You just go, you just hold it up and do it like on the spot, don't you?
I do.
And you know, I was so mad because I like TikTok held this video I'd done.
It took 48 hours almost for them to post.
I was so bugged.
But yeah, I recorded it. But it's
it's like a hobby for me, which I know sounds really nerdy and probably not that surprising.
But I so I do not practice law anymore. I happily do not. All I do is manager training. But I get so
nerdy about this stuff. And so I was just refreshing the docket about every 15 minutes on my phone and
just like to break it down. So if you call that work... Laying by the pool, refreshing the docket.
Literally. Yeah, I had my like, Ellen Hildebrand in one, you know, one hand and my docket and
the other.
Things I've never said and will never say.
A true cliche. But you know, everything I did, I prepped. So in advance, Morin, my client
success coordinator, she helped me get everything prepped, all the organizations we're working with. We got all
their reports for manager training out, put a very friendly out of office message. We
practiced what we would preach, we recharge. And so, I didn't do my normal newsletter last
week. And so, I really, really held off. It's been awesome, especially starting a business,
bringing in, so I've two team members, Lauren and Nicole. Nicole helps me run the business operation side and
Lauren is my client success coordinator and they have been game changers.
Shout out.
So that's, yeah, shout out big time. And so, anyway, so it was good. It was like really
refreshing and I was actually excited to like get back at it this week.
And of course you ran into people you know, because you're so freaking extraverted and
like know people all over the world. It's so freaky.
Who goes to like Dominican Republic?
And then she gets home and runs into somebody like after leaving the airport, like, wait,
what?
I was laughing. So we played golf. So we played at this course called Punta Espada. It's like a global top
50 course. And so it's only those moments that I realized how expensive my husband's
golf trips have been. And in our household, we do not penalize. So I'm not going to stop
him from going. I now have a budget for myself that I want to spend on my trips. Because
while I do like to golf, yeah, Vegas, well, I like to golf. I know it's like, hold on
girl. I'm not like, like going on a golf trip and playing golf every day is Vegas. Well, I like to go. I know it's like, hold on girl. I'm not like
like going on a golf trip and playing golf every day is like, no, no, no. Too much. Too
much for me. I just, I like to go play, play around. And so we, but we did, we played,
it was an ocean front course. It was beautiful. The pictures. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It was, it
was like very, it was very pretty. And I hit one over water and we ended up, people were
a little bit slow. And so we ended up joining up with like two other singles. So to other
golfers. And so we have played with caddies often when you're
at these courses. And so all these caddies are there. And so like I hit one from the
men's tees because I'm like, I kind of want to try to hit it over water and hit like a
really good shot. And thankfully, normally I totally fuck it up if there's an audience.
So it was so exciting. The caddies are going crazy. But one of the guys we paired up with
is from Atlanta. And so we were talking and we were saying when we play golf and he's like, Oh, do you know, you know, a friend
of ours, who's, you know, who's kids go to school with my kids. So we were like, I was
like texting and I'm like, God everywhere. And yeah, I ran into a really good girlfriend
of mine on the way home from the airport immediately upon landing in Atlanta. And this is it. It's
like Sesame Street here. It's not Atlanta is not real.
I'm fascinated. I want to Sesame Street here. I swear. Atlanta is not real. I'm fascinated.
I want to do a case study on this.
So you can study like a specimen.
It is my yes face though.
I do think it has a bit to do with that.
But forget Kevin Bacon.
It's whatever, six degrees or whatever the hell.
Six degrees of separation of Ashley Hurd.
Exactly.
Manager from Methan.
Oh my gosh.
The second mayor of Dunwoody.
The assistant mayor of Dunwoody. The assistant mayor.
For real.
The assistant too.
Our clip from this week's episode to my friend, the mayor.
So, you know, shout out.
Shout out.
Shout out.
We have a replacement right here.
The incumbent or whatever the hell it is.
I'm more like a mascot.
I'm more of a cheerleader for Dominic.
Come live in Sesame Street.
You too can, you too can see people.
It's not quite as in, I was going to say, in Sassuress, which reminds us of the Netflix
show.
Oh gosh.
That was wild.
Have you watched it yet, Lee?
I'm one and a half episodes in.
I'm telling you.
The Man with a Thousand Kids, is that what it's called?
Right.
And he's like, no, no, it's not.
It's 550. I'm like, no, no, it's not. It's five 50. I'm like, the way that I just kept screaming. I mean, not like, like yelling
for my life, like, especially, and sorry, Lee, if you have not gotten to the part and
I'm not spoiling anything, but there's at one point where he jacks off into a cup in
a mall and she inseminates herself in the mall.
What?
How did I miss that part?
What?
You missed that part?
Okay.
Yeah.
That's the part that I probably was screaming on top of my lungs.
My husband was like, let's watch this.
I was like, I don't know.
I'm not in the mood.
And then we put it on and I was literally screaming most of it.
Oh my gosh.
Well, just the fact he offers to do it the natural way.
Oh my God. That one lady took him up on it too. Twice.
You sure did.
I was like, I don't actually think he's that attractive.
Nope.
I can see. I can see.
No, no, no.
She's doing it.
No, no, no.
It's not. It's totally not like not not my style, but like
he like he's he is unusual, but his YouTube I went to his YouTube because they came to
the travels. Yeah. But then I didn't want to see the videos because it starts like reacting.
And I'm like, Oh, I haven't finished it yet. I don't want to see it. But he does these
videos all over. And so I can see like if you like a certain type, it's not my type, but like I used to,
I did use to like Fabio back in the day.
So I can see if you like that type that you would be like, Oh, you know, Jonathan Rude.
Yeah.
Like fair enough.
Anyway.
Okay.
Oh gosh.
Good times though.
Good times.
That guy is having the time of his life.
Go watch it because it's actually insanely shocking. And he could possibly, especially,
I don't, he probably hasn't stopped. He could really have like, there's a chance that he
could mess up the human race.
It's really, it really does. It gets you, it takes you down a bad rabbit hole. So I'm
doing a palate cleanse by now
watching Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders on Netflix tryouts, like making the squad.
Oh, you know what? I got to give a shout out to, I think it's called Barbecue Showdown, Season 3.
Chef Tika wins, which, spoiler alert, but Josh and my husband, who is also a chef,
they used to work together. So it was super exciting watching it.
Oh my gosh.
Another good palate cleanser.
It's all like food.
And then it just makes you hungry.
Like I do that with books too.
Like I'll read some like super in depth book and I'm like, oh, then I'll go and literally
read the babysitter's club.
Like I just got it.
It's you got it.
That's like after a whole day of HRing and you just like need, like I have to put on my
comfort show. Like if there's something that was really extraneous and especially like employer
relations issue or something. I remember once when I was in a law firm associate and like working a
lot, but I would go before work and work out. And I once on the exercise bike, I had Twilight and
I was really into reading Twilight and I had it with me and I was sitting there like mass reading it while I bikes, obviously not
biking that fast.
Anyway, I finished and I'd done like a 30 minute workout.
I got up and I realized there's a senior associate next to me staring at me and he was like,
really?
Like really?
And he's like, we're going to take this into account in performance reviews.
And of course he's laughing.
I'm like, I mean, there's, you know, professional, there's nothing to inhibit your professional
success like getting busted reading, you know, Edward and Bella.
It wasn't like 50 shades of gray.
Oh, that's fair.
Yeah, that would have been me.
Like, aren't you an HR professional?
Yes.
And?
He runs a business.
Right?
He's an entrepreneur.
I'm learning. Aren't you an HR professional? Yes. Yeah. And?
He runs a business.
Right? He's an entrepreneur.
I'm learning a thing or two.
Speaking of HR, HR professional.
Oh, God.
Who brought this to our attention last night?
I did.
One of you two.
It was Lee. Yeah, because I saw it early in the day.
I was busy already filming a TikTok. We just came back from SHRM, Society of Human Resources
Management. Which we didn't talk about this too much, but at the conference there was this,
one of the themes was civility, like be civil to each other, which like you're not wrong, but like, it seems
to really kind of address like symptoms rather than underlying issues. But they did have
this whole cafe and we have, I can't remember if we put, they both put some of these pictures
up. It was like, there's a cafe. Jamie, did we send these to you? It was like the civility
cafe.
Oh God.
Civilla hyphen T-E-A.
And I was like, oh, that is so HR.
But see, I thought they were literally serving tea.
So I went into this area, like, where's the tea?
Yeah, like hoping to get some Campbell tea.
Yeah.
Scan her badge.
And they were all like pretty colored.
I thought they were tea bags.
Pick a tea bag and then they got hot water somewhere.
No, it was cards on nice shit to say basically.
Oh God.
Okay. So I was like, oh, there's no tea and they're going, oh no, no, it was cards on nice shit to say basically. Oh God. Okay. So I was like,
oh, there's no tea and they're going, oh no, no, it looks like it. Right. But here, take
some cards. I was like, no, I don't want those. I don't want. Yeah. I want tea. I thought
you had tea because it says tea. Literally then it was like on Lee's mind. So Lee's like
looking around, like literally looking around, like preening her, her creaming her neck to
see like, she's like, where can now where can we get some tea? Because now, now I really want some tea. And we just got drinks instead. But yeah.
Johnny C. Taylor, who's the president and CEO of Shurm posted on his LinkedIn that
Shurm is now removing the E in DEI, which is equity. And it was basically a post about
how, you know, why we need to focus more on inclusion.
If you're doing inclusion right, you're really bringing equity in.
So actually a follower sent it to me because I don't follow Johnny.
Go figure.
I automatically just got so upset and angry because there's been such a focus on DEI over the last 10 years. And
I think we've made strides, but part of his comment even said that we're not making movement
on it. And there hasn't been movement made. And I'm like, according to who? So I couldn't
help but think that it's an election year and this is really just
to maybe to appease and align because I heard and don't quote me on this because I was not
there but I heard that when Johnny spoke at the Shurm conference last month, he almost
threatened that he was going to be in the room when the president won this upcoming
November, which to me,
you know, it's speaking volumes. Well, the other thing that he said, and it's actually something
that I've said for a long time. So I'm aligned on this is that the I should come first. So not only
was he like, you should remove the E, which is equity, but inclusion should
come first and then diversity.
So he's like, it's no longer D-E-I, it's I and D. And I've said that because as Hispanic
female in corporate America, people loved hiring me because I'm so diverse and different,
have all these different
perspectives, viewpoints, whatever, diversity is great.
But they throw me into places that are not safe, to be quite frank.
They're throwing me into places where I am never able to be included.
I don't feel like I belong, there's no equity.
So it's like, oh great, you're checking that D box,
because you have a Hispanic female good for you, right?
But there was like zero inclusion.
So then guess what?
I would get feedback.
You're being too loud, you're being too vocal.
Why don't you be quiet in this meeting?
Why don't you not share?
And this is too much change.
Meet the organization where it is, which I do believe,
but you know what I'm saying.
It was just constant like, oh, like you're too diverse. But that's because there
was no safe, you know, inclusive environment, right? So I like that, but equity, hello, and no B.
I like DEIB personally, but it is a step back, my opinion. Shurm's incredibly pro-business.
And tell what B is.
Belongingness. And so it's like, what the heck? To me, it's 30 years back, but it's
to appease business. So that was a little shocking, but not totally predictable. But
oh, disappointing.
How about that?
Part of the rationale, and this is his statement,
so you can see it on his LinkedIn and we'll put it on our Instagram just so we're not,
you know, I was quoting it, but it's, he says, well, you know, make no mistake.
It's totally like trying to have your cake and eat it too.
Like we are taking it formally out of it, which what I said is like how much money was spent
with consultants on trying to come up with this groundbreaking innovative idea of what to
call it. And if that's not corporate-
Your membership money, guys.
Exactly. If that's not corporate America, then that's super telling to focus so much
on these letters. But make no mistake, we remain committed to equity and it'll be incorporated
under the broader inclusion framework. And when inclusion is done right, so is equity. But I find that
to be completely false because to Lee's point is the aspects of inclusion, what does that
actually mean? And there's nothing in this post that talks about what inclusion looks
like and the experiences that people have, but also things like equity. Well, okay, things
like pay equity. I mean, we champion a lot on this podcast, things like salaries. We understand the differences in experience and opportunities in this country
go far beyond what we can solve on this podcast, but there are things that you can do. And
a very basic one is to include salary ranges, accurate salary ranges, reasonable ones and
rationales in every job posting. You will attract candidates. It is literally a win-win,
unless you're underpaying people or unless you are not having equity. And so equity can't happen
when you start removing these things and don't have a vocal push for it and explain why it
matters and what you can practically do. Like the golf, like I golf, I like to play golf.
I rarely play golf because not that many of my female friends play it. Certainly not at work. And so when you have like even from that aspect of like company retreats
and things like that, we're going to play golf. Well, women, many women are like, you know, great,
what are we going to do? Yeah. Or men that don't play or like made, you know, get made fun of,
made to feel less than. And like that's an example in the corporate environment. But
I just think in the comments are really across the board.
I have not seen comments that are positive about what this is. I think a lot of people,
someone had said, this is disturbing, which I think it was a lot of people and it just,
especially from an organization champion people.
Yeah. I mean, it's the go-to organization, right, for HR professionals. So I mentioned this in my TikTok last night, but I just feel like it's super harmful because
people absorb this and then they take it back to their organizations and they're changing
their initiatives.
And it's scary, frankly.
And I love the reasons, and I'd love to quote this, I love the reasons for why we're making
the change. DE and I programs in to quote this, I love the reasons for why we're making the change.
DE and I programs in their current form
simply aren't working.
We're seeing societal backlash
and increased polarization across the US.
We're also seeing companies take a step back
from their DE and I initiatives.
So rather than ignore the problem,
we wanna confront it head on
by just removing it altogether. So
absolving people and responsibilities. So not promoting safe workplaces for workers.
Like wait, what? So make no mistake, totally pro-business, not at all pro-employee. That's
wild to me after we've made so much, so many strides as an HR
profession. You know what I mean? Like, wow. And that's a lot of the comments,
right, that we're reading and the backlash from HR professionals. Like,
this does not help our reputation at all.
Absolutely not.
No. And I think it's on what you said, and you said this yesterday, like I
think some of our reputation, the bad reputation HR stems from things like this.
And I think it's this, which is treated as, as gospel by many people because it is true.
Shurm is often the gold standard.
Many organizations as they're looking for HR professionals, they're looking for the
set specific shurm certification.
But the, the like to that, which I think is Jamie, you'd raise, is people do take this and in
part because the other danger I see is employers, for-profit, non-profit businesses that take
individuals from business backgrounds, they have no HR experience.
And sometimes the only thing they get is sherm or maybe a sherm membership, or maybe they
just follow this.
And so they do.
They don't have that holistic thinking
about, okay, what does this mean in practice?
And so if you go back to organization and say,
okay, we're not gonna do DE&I, it's just gonna be ID.
First of all, employees are gonna be like,
what are you talking about?
And all they're gonna hear is you're taking this out.
And as much as you wanna use words to say,
no, we still care about equity,
it's like, you obviously don't,
because you're striking it from this three letters. And I think if you're not seeing people have it, then you're not giving
them practical solutions on what to do about it and get people's buy-in and understanding.
So, boy.
They lost me at HR Diva.
Yeah.
Yeah. For an organization that has that much power and influence, and one thing I said on my
video was there's other resources and so many people are like, what are the other resources?
And I'm like, that's the problem is people think SHRM is the only resource that we have
because they have the money to front it, right,
from your membership dues.
But there are others, and I'm not going to list them here, but there are others.
Do your research.
There's so many other organizations out there that will be, I promise you, more valuable.
So, like I said, not surprised, but disappointed.
But I think that's a good message, Jamie, like do some well-rounded research here because
that is a, I would say, a polar position on Sherm's part.
My opinion, if they were going to do the right thing, they would have leaned into it.
They would have added more letters.
They would have added action planning.
They would have added support for businesses to really make this, oh, we see you all are struggling with this. Oh, okay.
So instead of take steps back decades, here, let's actually help you fully understand this.
Because to your point, Ashley, which was a great one, I and D, workers aren't going to understand
that. They don't even know what D E I B or D E N I, D N I, D E I, whatever people call it in the world. You know what I mean?
That's not even shared. That's not even really in the conversation at a societal level.
Please. Talking about the letters and the acronyms is not helpful. It's not impactful.
Having basic presentations on what it means and how it
feels and talking to people and saying, putting them in the position, if you've ever been in a
position where you feel like you don't belong, and how does that feel and get people to understand
it and what that feels like in the workplace in particular. Because my Manager 101 course
is certified for SHRM credits. There's plenty of really good, what they call PDCs, like professional development credits, by individuals that do give these practical tips on D&I.
And so if you were to have instead, Johnny Taylor as head of SHRM to say, you know, people
don't, this isn't working, we're getting this pushback, absolutely.
This is the resources that we have for HR professionals to explain to your teams and
translate that.
And it was a huge, a huge miss for me.
And so I'm certainly disappointed coming off the heels
of that conference.
And again, we met so many great professionals there.
I just think it's finding those resources.
And so we'll definitely have questions on our Instagram
for other places that you've found people-focused research
that helps you on a practical basis, help people at work and drive that positive reputation
of HR and the things that you can do to help people's work and careers and lives.
Blue, I need a shot.
Right. Happy hour.
A shot and a white claw.
On that note, we need some feel-good news.
So if you aren't in HR, you just got the dish, right?
If you're not in the HR folks, you just got all the drums from the field of HR.
Oh gosh, we're all over the place, I think.
Any feel-goods?
What's going on, ladies?
I got one. As we record this, I'm going up to Maine for the weekend.
So back on the vacation grind, but it's a double 40th for my brother-in-law and sister-in-law.
And I'll shout out my sister-in-law in particular.
I highlight her a lot on my social media.
So Mary was a corporate lawyer who said, I don't want this life. And so she started,
she actually was in house counsel for the NHL, which is kind of cool. Oh, wow. Hockey, but so
she started her own business now a number of years ago. And so she leads athletes charities. So like
Henry Lundquist, who was the goalie for, she led his charity, but now she also is COO of a charity
called Your Mom Cares.
So you'll see me post a lot about that in my stories and it's just some good quotes.
So Mary, you may know her as Mary Wolf.
You may know her as Mary Heard.
She's got some personal and professional names, but happy birthday to my brother-in-law as
well, but I'll give a shout out especially to my sister-in-law, but her business, Seek
to Be Mary is very cool.
Trailblazer.
Very much a trail, especially like a female leading these things for good in the sports
world and it's pretty cool.
Oh, I love it.
I love it.
Jamie, what about you?
Anything?
I, God, sadly, I literally cannot think of a damn thing right now. Jamie's hanging in there.
She's got summertime sadness.
It's the dog days.
You know me, I've said this before, like I really need something to look forward to.
And so I'm just like hyper focused on Vegas right now.
Yep.
Yep.
We're going to HR tech.
That's what she's referencing.
It's a conference.
And we get all the time people are like, I'm not in HR and I listen.
So sometimes we'll talk a little bit more about HR and these happy hours because again,
when you're with your happy hour peeps, you talk a little bit about work.
But HR Tech is a conference in Vegas and we'll be there.
Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, whether you're in HR or not, you know what I mean?
Come on out to Vegas that week.
Oh gosh, we'll be there. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, whether you're in HR or not, you know what I mean? Come on out to Vegas that week.
Oh gosh, we'll be there. What is that, the
second to last week of September, something like that. But we're already looking forward to it, you know, so
hopefully we see some of you there. Definitely let us know if you're going.
Yeah, I want to go to the Sphere. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that looks cool inside. It's like all immersive.
Yeah, and they do tours too. I'd probably rather see a performance, but I'll take whatever I can get.
Yes. Imagine, oh, that's kind of off color, but I thought we were at happy hour, but imagine
like an X-rated movie in there. That's what I was thinking because it is very immersive,
you know, like, will you feel in it?
Yeah, like an IMAX where they like blow wind on your neck and like water in your face.
The 4D, the 4D movie.
It smells like Badootsie.
Is that water?
It's sticky.
Spider-Man up in here.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
What is your, what's your What's your good stuff going on?
Well, actually, my bestie's coming into town this weekend.
Mike?
My other bestie.
Yeah, Mike, he's coming into San Antonio.
You guys aren't going to flip down to Mexico City and make up your trip?
No, not yet.
Not yet, but that's coming.
So we'll get the pal around a little bit.
All right, upload some fun pictures.
Looking forward to that.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, I'll post something, you know, I'm finally getting out of my little cage.
So I'll post something.
It's just too hot to do shit down here.
You know what I mean?
So we kind of hold up in the sun.
No, no, no, hold on.
I do have actually something good.
We had our 90s night this past Saturday.
Yes.
Yeah. And it was so much fun.
We had four different comedians.
It was amazing.
Of course, the DJ and dancing was my favorite personally.
You looked good.
Christy from 81 is really, she was the mastermind behind it.
I just did what I could to help.
But I've already told her we have to do a Y2K1. So fingers crossed we get that up and running
by the end of the year.
Okay.
That would be amazing. It was so much fun.
I want to know. It snuck up on me. Will it be in Nashville?
Yeah, we'll do it in Nashville. And I would love to shoot for October. It just really depends if we can get it under our belts this year. But yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Love it.
How cool is that? I love that too. Aw, well TGIFF. I hope others out there have some feel
goods. Take a minute to reflect. Especially if you're driving into work.
Good. What's coming? What do I have to look forward to in approximately 8.2 hours?
Exactly.
Oh gosh.
Well, enjoy the weekend, besties.