HR BESTIES - HR Besties Happy Hour - Performance Management with Mr. Roboto

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Happy Friday besties. TGIFF. We made another week. God. summertime sadness. Summertime happiness. Yay. You know what? I had a bestie send to our HR besties pod inbox asking if we'll have a happy hour this week because she needs to make sure she sets her workout schedule around our podcast. I just thought that was funny. Well, I said, of course she's listening. Yes. Go girl. You got this. Come on, push it. Push it.
Starting point is 00:00:47 My husband, Mr. Manager Method, aka Dan, when he does like push ups, if they're like in a workout class and they say 25, he'll always do 26 or 27. He's like, I always do a little more than expected. Overachiever.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Okay, overachiever. So I try to bring that in. And so like if they do a countdown and they're like, OK, one, mentally, I want to stop at like three or four when they're saying three or four, I'm like dying to get through those next few seconds. But so I'll try to push myself five more seconds. And that's where the results come.
Starting point is 00:01:16 That extra stuff. See, like I stopped five seconds early. You know, it's a journey. It's always a journey. It's always a journey. But you know, that's why there's stretch pants I'm thankful for, because I don't always meet my goal. But I always say that they don't call them stretch pants for nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And I appreciate that. Oh, but man, that motivation, that's what I need. I need to bottle some of that up, you know? I wanted to share with you all just, I had a dream again last night. I'm always dreaming. I've got colorful dreams, intense dreams. I mean, it's wild, right? But here's what's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Sometimes we get into negative self-talk. We're all guilty of that. Where we're just like, God, you're a dumb bitch. You know, like that's what you're thinking. bitch. You know, like, that's what you're thinking. Like, how could you do that? Oh, you're so stupid. At least once a day for me. I know, at least, right? And it's terrible. Oh, gosh, you know. And it's not good. It's not a good self-care thing. But in my dream last night, it was a, it was a hot dream. It was like, oh, like a spicy. It was. Oh, a naughty dream. It was,
Starting point is 00:02:27 it was. So I won't get into that because it's not that type of podcast. Go search for our, our Patreon. Exactly. Yeah. Go to my only fan, go to my only fan if you want to pay for this extra content. But I was with somebody and he was rounding second. Right? So, bases in the US. It's been a minute since I've thought in terms of bases, but you're reinvigorating things, Lee. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I don't even know what second is. I don't know either, but I'm just saying, things were getting hot and heavy. I'm going to Google it. Okay. We were making out in a mall or something. I don't know. You know how dreams are, you know? We had to just catch a bed in public. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:10 It was weird. But of course he had an accent. Just saying. And I don't know this person. It was just like random person, you know, that my mind's making out. Was it J. Thomas Henry? No, Thomas J. Henry. Right?
Starting point is 00:03:20 No, no. But hey, holler. You know what I'm saying? But I could use more friends like that. And now know what second base is. No, Thomas Jane. Thomas Jane, right? Right. No, no. Okay. But hey, holler, you know what I'm saying? But I could use more friends like that. I now know what second base is. Oh, really? What did it say?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Okay. I'm just curious. Touching above the waist, including petting, feeling, fondling. Okay, yes, it was. Above the waist. Okay. Like tickling your belly button. That's exactly what he was telling me.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Belly button shot. Yeah. So, okay. So I was on base with that. Yeah. It was that. Consistent. So we're like getting, we're doing second base stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And maybe this is TMI now, but I'm too deep into the story. I have to share it. Yeah, you have to finish it. But, you know, he kind of was fondling. And he says, oh, I am not kidding. This is legit what happened. I'm not making this up. He literally says, I thought they'd be fuller.
Starting point is 00:04:19 In my own dream, I was negative. Savage critical. Because it wasn't him that said it. It was negative. What a savage critical. Because it wasn't him that said that. It was me. Me. Yeah. It was your brain, right? He was not a real person.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I was digging on myself. Wow. Your self-conscious really said, fuck you. Oh my God. That's next level negative self-talk that is coming out in my dreams, you know? And I'm not even fixated on that, like at all. I promise. Like that's not something like every day I'm like, oh, these dang boobs.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Like I'm not. So it's like, where did that come from? I thought they'd be fuller. And that's savage as hell when you're making out with somebody. Dang. I'm curious, anyone listening, if you've had that critical stuff, someone probably, I have had it about like, I didn't do open enrollment right. You didn't like in your dream. You probably, I have had it about like, I didn't do open enrollment
Starting point is 00:05:05 right. You didn't make it in your dream. You probably will actually, Jamie, since you've been the thinker. Damn, Lee. I know. So negative self-talk. I don't know. Take it, take it from me. Like just flesh that shit out as much as you can. Yeah. Gosh, don't get so bad where the fake people you're making out with in your dreams are insulting your body. My gosh, you know? I'm surprised Jamie didn't show up in your dream.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I know and start punching him. Right at your ear and be like, no, she's got big boobs. They're beautiful boobs. We love her boobs. We love bloody folks, you asshole. How dare you, you know? I'd be finding him online where he works doing all the back of the back. Oh, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I'm down at the computer store in the mall. He was a student, I think. A student of yours? Like a university student. Like Mary Kay? No. Okay. No, no.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Not a binder. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think I was a student too. Okay. Well, that's it. Well, speaking of your dream, I went to dinner with my husband the other night and I was like, I'm going to do a little test. And I said something I said, I probably did say J. Thomas Henry.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So I said Thomas J. Henry. And he was like, what? What are you talking about? I said, you haven't been listening to the podcast recently. And normally he listens to every episode, but he's been busy. And so totally it was like, it was a test. You either fail, and I said, and we've brought his name up like three, as you have never been listening to our Friday happy hour episodes.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So hopefully he'll listen now and appear at my, at my office and say, I was listening. So this is, this is also a secret Easter egg. This is the ultimate test right here. It sure is. The ultimate test. Sure is. also a secret Easter egg. This is the ultimate test right here. It sure is. The ultimate test. It sure is. It sure is. Right here. Dan, you better...
Starting point is 00:06:49 Oh boy. Yeah. Oh man. Putting it all out there in public. You know someone's going to send it to them, right? Don't do that. Make it find out. Don't ruin it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Yeah. Okay. Let him prove his love. Or testing the hypothesis. That's right. That's right. We talked about love languages. We're bringing it all together. Listening to the podcast is clearly the love language that I have.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I mean, I was heard. See, I thought you were going to say something about second base with that when you were leading in. Third base? No. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, damn. Oh my God, I was about to say fourth base, y'all.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That's not even a thing. Oh, damn. That's home. Yeah, that's home. God bless. Summer is like a cocktail. It has to be mixed just right. Start with a handful of great friends. Now add your favorite music. Then finally, add Bacardi Rum.
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Starting point is 00:08:04 Did you all watch the All-Star Game? that device or trademarks with Picardian Company Limited. Rum 40% alcohol by volume. Did y'all watch the All-Star Game? No, I did not, but I did see that national anthem. Shoo, from center stage to- Oh yes, yes, absolutely. I do actually kind of hate though, that she came out with a statement that she was drunk and now she's checking into rehab. But I like, I even hate that she had to do that, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:25 You just let people snuck your web. Well, we all have choices. And I think otherwise it was going to be, it was going to be like an endless roast of it. And so it is. Oh yeah. She was never going to hear the end of it. Yeah. I do hope that she gets that help. And I hate that that's what took it to get there, but I have to imagine that her people assume she has people were like, all right. Oh yeah. They probably told her that you have to, yeah. Because in the absence of information, people make stuff up, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:51 But did you hear how Fergie was trending? That was the never, never Fergie. Hashtag never forget. Yeah. They said that. Bless her. Fergie got replaced for the worst national anthem. Oh my God. That was, boy, wow. That was...
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yowza. I like her. I do too. Does she make any new music, any music anytime soon? I do too. I mean, I can... Oh man, that was college. I still like Milk Money is still like my anthem.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I know. Like I liked her and Josh Duhamel and sometimes I have to remember they haven't been together in years. God, he's hot. And I don't know them. Personally? But I, too, in my heart, I really thought that that was a good, you know, back from the Kids Incorporated days and all that. I've been a fan of Berg.
Starting point is 00:09:40 She's the one who pissed her pants on stage, right? Yes. I did think about that as well. I wasn't going to touch the it. She's given her all. She was giving her all. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we all have our journeys.
Starting point is 00:09:50 She needed a she-we. That's probably on her Wikipedia page. I wonder if that is on her Wikipedia page. And I hope not. I'm going to take that off, if it is. See, things aren't so bad, people. Things aren't so bad. You didn't fuck up a national anthem like that, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:10:06 On national television. You didn't piss your pants on stage and it's still living with you 15 years later. It's going to be okay, whatever you're going through. She said it was sweat. No. I don't, if it will. If I remember correctly, oh no, not where it was. Swamp ass, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:21 That's different. Boob sweat. You know what sweat looks like. Yeah. But I'm looking to see now, I'm literally looking as we talk about this at happy hour again, Yes. That's different. Boob sweat. Like, you know what? Sweat looks like. Yeah. But I'm looking to see now, I'm literally looking as we talk about this at happy hour again, if that is a separate entry in her Wikipedia page. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Do y'all ever piss yourselves as an adult? Not as an adult. I've shit my pants on accident before. That was a bitch. Shit crappins. Yeah. Was the spicy, was the salsa too spicy? You know, the coffee just got me real quick. I trusted a fart or shit and we've all been
Starting point is 00:10:53 there. You know what I'm saying? I'm a trusting person. That's my problem. Of course I was wearing a white skirt. Oh no. It was just at home. It was a running skirt. It was a Lulu running skirt. Oh no. You know, like a tie. That has nothing to do with it. Okay. Well, that's good. It was in like a full diaper. Okay. Are you fine? I mean, you know, anyway, we're waiting for Ashley to look something up.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Bestie Fergie has good besties around her because that whole incident, the pee, the pee or sweat, whatever, does not even show up on her Wikipedia page. It might now. Oh, thank goodness. What about the anthem? That's not on there. Oh, she, I forgot. Ashley's going to make an edit to that page.
Starting point is 00:11:34 So someone took that out, but when I look at the links, there is a link to an article that says, Fergie speaks out about controversial national anthem performance. I honestly tried my best. There you go. honestly tried my best. There you go. That is your best. So your best is going to be different on different days. That's the lesson here. That is the lesson. Happy hour. And look, she's still with us. Right? She survived that. You can survive whatever you're going through. Stacey. Stacey. Stacey. Anne. Do you all remember the group she was in? Wild Orchid?
Starting point is 00:12:07 You know, I saw that on Wikipedia. I do not. Oh, you don't? I don't remember. Yes. Yeah, and then Black Eyed Peas. Big Black Eyed Peas fan. But you know what those are? These are what we've talked about. These are real people things. Unlike AI. I love the segue. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Anyone want to clue in to what happened this past week in the world of AI? Well, there's been a lot of drama in HR. I'll tell you what. So if you're in HR, you're probably exhausted from it. If you're not, yeah, the function of HR has a lot of hot goss and drama too. But last week, Lattice, what does Lattice do exactly like in an elevator speech?
Starting point is 00:12:54 What is it, HR software, technology, information systems company, right? Just high level? Yeah, like a people platform. People management system. Yeah, people a people platform. People management system. Yeah, people platform. I've done work for Lattice. I promoted, they did a report on people strategy. I really loved this report. I did a thing. I still love that report. What happened over this past week? I may have had a different opinion. My eyes bugged a little bit when I saw this.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So Lee, continue. Yeah. Well, what happened was the CEO came out and she announced that they were going to start putting their AI employees into the people management system. They were basically assigning robots employee numbers, treating AI accounts, profiles, whatever you want to call them. I just say robots for fun like Minority Report or something. But you know, they're gonna give them and assign them employee numbers. Humanizing AI and HR. HR professionals are all over my LinkedIn, like WTFing. And
Starting point is 00:14:07 we were too, right? In our chat, our group chat, texts, whatever. Like, what is it going to be? Robot number one? Like, robot number two? What are you going to stick in there? They don't have a background report, background check. We can't even do people management, right? And now what? We're going to start treating robots better? What the hell? You know? Like, it was just a lot of reactions, right? What did you all see? I read the post a few times and really was like, wait, what? I don't understand. Cause it was like, we're going to have, they're like AI employees or digital workers. I'm going to say AI employees. Cause when I think-
Starting point is 00:14:40 Digital workers. There you go. To give them the respect that they deserve. What the fuck? I know, right? I'm like, when people getting laid off, you know, like, but, but, but, okay, but, but it's like, we're going to, we'll have them on board, assign goals, performance metrics, even an accountable manager. And I was just thinking to myself of like, when we say, Hey, Joe, AI is not taking your jobs, but if I have a manager, I'm like, here's your, here's, are you giving them names? Then what names? I guarantee you there's a big HR discussion about what names are we going to have these?
Starting point is 00:15:11 Mr. Roboto. Are these going to be, like, yeah, what are we going to name these people? But like, what do you have a one-on-one with like a, Oh, I have to do performance management on a robot now? With Mr. Roboto. Right, people already hate performance reviews enough. What if Mr. Roboto. Right. People already hate performance reviews enough. What if Mr. Roboto starts sexually harassing Dorarigato? What happens then?
Starting point is 00:15:34 And in fairness, her post is like, I know this is going to have questions. You know, we don't have all the answers. We want to help customers find them. We want to bring everyone along. Well, also this one got really lit up on our favorite Reddit page, LinkedIn Lunatics. People had a lot of feedback about this one. And I think since they've kind of, I think they've walked it back a little bit in their announcement. Yeah, they announced it and said, we will continue to work with our customers on the responsible use of AI, but will not further pursue digital workers in the product. Digital workers? So that was a kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And here, I pulled it up. I pulled it up. Here's how the CEO, Sarah Franklin of Lattice, starts the announcement. Today, Lattice made history. Yeah, you did. We became the first company to give digital workers official employee records in Lattice. As employee, real employee, human records are all incomplete and shit and like all, wait, what? Yeah, like, huh?
Starting point is 00:16:35 Now you're going to get the robots in there? Now do they have to complete an I9 within three business days? Like, I mean, what? I have questions. Yeah. They have like in the employee record on their page, they have a full screenshot of it. And one was like legal name, which makes me chuckle for a robot, preferred full name. Pronouns.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And they have like, and you can, so who's that is like, the road to hell is going to be paved with human managers picking names for robots. I can tell you this. Do you have any dietary restrictions? Big tits McGee. Big tits McGee is in there. Do be decibel. Can you imagine? Yeah. Look no further. Look no further. My, we all have dream jobs, I'm sure. My dream job is to be the person at the license plate, at the state license plate agency that
Starting point is 00:17:33 gets all the requests for license, for the license plates and gets to pick the ones you have and the ones that go through. And then you got to have like some, I got to have people like Gen Z or like 11 year olds that can tell me the funny things I'm not getting about these requests. But like I can tell you if people try to submit that stuff for license plates, the type of things managers are going to be picking for their new robot report, direct reports. Oh my gosh. Oh my word.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I feel like I've done this. Well, maybe not AI, but you know, when you're testing a new HRS system, you give test names. Yeah, like done the accounts or whatever. Like funny, yeah. And I always do like funny ones. Like I had Megan Thee Stallion before, I've had Biggie Smalls, I've had Michael Scott. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Like I always do like really like funny names. And then if I get to upload a picture, oh, it's on. So, I mean, I'd be creative with it if I hadn't. Well, I think a lot of people would describe creative to be the things that lawyer me would call as problematic. Exactly. The creative things are future lawsuits. Don't make more work.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So maybe don't name it Mr. Roboto. Anyway, it was... What would you name your digital worker? I mean, probably Ashley. Test Ashley. Oh my God. Ashley number two. Jamie Jr.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Ashley Jr. Ashley. Rosie. Just keep it easy and memorable. I'd name it after my dog. I would do Rosie and have a picture of Rosie 100%. And that would be my favorite on the team. That is cute.
Starting point is 00:19:10 What about you, Leigh? I don't know. I mean, my mind went to Big Tits McGee. I don't know why. I guess because I'm not as full as I used to be. But I mean, yeah, I just think about my librarian back in the day in college. If you know, you know. But I don't, I don't
Starting point is 00:19:27 know. I mean, I, is this, is this where we're headed? It was until it wasn't. You know, someone already put a toe in, you know? Yeah, I was like, until. I feel like we just really got pushed, right? Because that really started the conversation last week. Yes. Right?
Starting point is 00:19:43 I mean, on humanity and you know, is this inhumane, right? I mean, because we can't even get dignity and respect for humans right in the workplace, right? So then to introduce this whole complex AI digital worker thing, oh my gosh, you know? Yeah, I think that was probably jumping a few steps ahead again. Everybody's trying to figure it out and we will have successes and not successes. And so everybody's human. And so, you know, I give some, I do, I give some, some kudos to the CEO of Lattice for putting the idea out there that I'm sure her team was probably like, we're going to get some mixed reactions to this. But I saw like one of the comments, someone wrote,
Starting point is 00:20:28 I think this is weird. And that got a lot of love. But again, kudos as well on the quick pivot away of saying like, we're going to go ahead and not pursue digital workers at this time. OK, probably. I think that was a very, very quick turnaround on that decision. Man, they took messy action, didn't they? I mean, and that, oh boy, that was a little too messy.
Starting point is 00:20:48 A little too messy. So, you know, one step at a time. Oh man. But yeah, we're going to see more of this, aren't we? I mean, there's going to, I mean, it's a hot conversation here in the workplace. Yep. Huge. Ladies, any good news for this week? Any feel-goods to share?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Well, I have a good AI, a good AI. I have a relatively new LinkedIn Learning Nano course, which is the short, like less than 10-minute ones that I think you can get for free. I'll put it in the stories because I think I do think people can get free access if I'm wrong, apologize. But it's Nano tips for being a manager. And it's like eight, nine things you can do, maybe 10 things with chat GPT that can help you as a manager. And it has gotten like my best, I think, response of any course I've released so far. And it's real quick. So I've gotten excited. And I've gotten a couple messages from people on LinkedIn
Starting point is 00:21:46 that gave some nice feedback on it. And so that feels good when you don't always, some of the messages you get aren't as positive when you put yourself out there. But anyway, you know me, I'm a big proponent on figuring out ways to use different AI tools, including ChatGBT as maybe the easiest one. So that's some good stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Awesome. See, I think you need to get ahead of this digital workers. I see a nano course for you, managing digital workers. Totally. You got to get ahead of it. Write that down. I'm reaching out. I'm reaching out to my LinkedIn learning team now.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I am putting the proposal. Don't you think? I mean, really. There's something there with that, right? Yes. I love it. How do you manage those? It's going to be a 0.1 star rating from the community.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Hey, that's fine. A view is a view. I think people would watch it just to be like, what the heck is that? You know what I mean? And I'm real serious. Exactly. It's real, but it's just cheeky. You know what I mean? That's funny, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:46 Some Easter eggs in there to really, you know, if you know, you know. I like that. So maybe it's not for LinkedIn, but you should do that as a video. At least do a video on that, managing digital workers. You know what I mean? Totally. Yes. Select the name.
Starting point is 00:23:01 That's cute, right? I think that's on brand. I think that's funny. Jay, what you got? What good news? Don't do this I don't have good news thing that we heard a couple times. Every week you say you got nothing good. Yeah, that's not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I mean, I spoke for like 98 seconds. Come on. Do we need to skip a turn? Do you need to get inspired by Lee? Oh, gosh. You had a very exciting Prime Day. I mean I once I'm just gonna say the same thing I said last week. Like it's not it's I don't have anything. Yes you had Prime Day you've gotten good. I can't say that. My husband will fucking kill me. I can't say that. My husband will fucking kill me. Oh, yeah, yeah. We test him to see if he's listening. No, he does. I know he does. He listens in front of me.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Okay. Jamie didn't buy shit on Amazon's Prime Day for Vegas at all. Yeah, no, she didn't. I had that once where I went to the outlets with my friend and she bought so much shit, she told her husband, oh, we're just taking some of this home for Ashley. She doesn't want to tell her husband. And I was like, that's the next level. And she's like, make sure your husband, I said, no, no, no, we are not. This is not a, no, just, you know, anyway.
Starting point is 00:24:19 But you, but you Lee. Gosh, I've had, I've actually had a rough week. I've had a rough week. I've had a rough week. Oh gosh. But shiny things is that I'm writing that book and so it's with the editors now and I've been working on scripting the course that accompanies the book and we're working on the cover design and all of that. So I'm super excited.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah, like it's moving. So hopefully it comes out in September. That's what we're aiming for. But I'm working on like collecting testimonials now, like, you know, for the back cover and all of that. And I'm like, who do you, I mean, you know, like, big tits McGee, itits McGee. Michael Scott and all the classic players. Who are you asking? Are you asking us? Clearly not. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I just started thinking about it. I did a draft email request. I mean, you know, but like, I don't know any CHROs anymore. I mean, you know what I mean? I'm like, who would I, who's in my network? I don't know, if you want to give me a testimonial, send me one for this book. I'll send you the pre-read. This might be the best way to get it though.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Who wants to endorse this thing and get on the back cover? Let me tell you, I don't need to, you know, see some big name and say, Oh, this big name endorsed the person. Okay. I don't know if I believe that. I want to hear about like, put a good description. That's like someone that had a broke ass job, their boss was kind of an asshole to them, and they succeeded and they're feeling pretty damn good about life. Oh, okay. Describe the person in that way. You don't have to use their real name. Oh, I'd read that. Okay. That's more compelling to me than like whoever else, you know, big name. You don't need that shit.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yeah, because it is kind of competitive with those testimonials, you know? So I need to scrub my network and say... But we're different. But I was thinking of... I was thinking of actually asking my personal attorney to write me one, because I've held multiple organizations to account for their toxic workplace practices. This isn't me, by the way.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And so I thought that would be cheeky to put on there. I don't know if she would, but to have Lee's personal LNE attorney or whatever account or she's serious about understanding toxic workplaces and holding them responsible, surviving them and thriving. Just make sure she has her phone number. Do you think an attorney would do that? No, right? Maybe Thomas J. Henry would.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I was going to ask her because she's badass. Ask him. I know. Ask him. What if I reach out to him? Could you imagine? Oh my gosh. Okay, I will just for fun.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I bet I could find his email. Could you imagine? And then I'll have to put like, if you know, you know in the, in the apartment. But if y'all think, if y'all, you know, that's good advice actually, you know in the, in a person. But if you all think, if you all, you know, that's good advice, actually, you know, maybe even previous coaching clients and stuff like that. Oh yeah, that, yeah. Totally. Like put, and put descriptions of people.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah, people don't have to use their real name. Like that's the thing. Some people aren't going to want to say their real names. That's fine. You don't, I don't, you don't need real names. You have this description, but someone that's gone through some real shit and you help them get through it. I care about that more than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:27:27 A rich, famous, successful person. Yeah, who's just getting rich, doing this tip for tat. See, I don't really know how testimonials work. But anyway, if the CHRO of Fortune 100 wants to put their testimony on the back page, please reach out. But that's where I'm at. It's a journey and it's a long time coming. And I'm excited. We're getting there, you know, so it's moving.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Well, I think the people that you're reaching, like this is why we have different approaches. I work a lot with employers to help managers be better. You're also speaking to individuals. An individual doesn't they doesn't give a shit about the you know what title someone is in an org chart. They don't care about that. They're more enlightened. They know that the real thing that matters is you have a job, you have a life that you love, and it does not titles don't matter. So that's my personal take. Okay, so that's actually a really good idea, you know, to put real feedback from real people I've coached and how using this approach has changed their lives or perspective on work. Oh, okay. That's
Starting point is 00:28:30 clever. That's what I'd look for if I was looking at somewhere like that and be like, and even saying up there, like, I'm not putting big titles. I'm talking my testimonials are people like you and you are reading this. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. So I don't need to reach out to Oprah. You can. reading this. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. So I don't need to reach out to Oprah. You can. I like to reach out to Oprah. Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Monica Lewinsky.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I know exactly. I know. That's what I thought. We love Monica so much. Please do. We've tried it. Yes. I swear I was going to email her today. It is literally on a to-do list about toxic workplaces, exploits. I mean, that's what this is about, surviving and thriving. She's the only person, the only person that I've reached out. We would love to have you on the podcast, Monica.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Isn't that perfect for the book though? That's why I thought she would be perfect. My attorney would be perfect. This is good. Oh my gosh. I'm just kind of, I'm cheeky. But yeah. But anyways, yeah, so that's good. So good things are cooking. I'm busy. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I love it. Go get them. Jamie, anything? Yeah. Well, I, you know, I'm a big football fan. And so the countdown is now officially on to VOLS football. And then of course, NFL preseason preseason, which you know I can appreciate. I actually scored free tickets yesterday to Titans training camp. Oh my god. And I'm really excited to take the boys to that because I think they'll appreciate that. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:30:00 That's fun. That's fun. Do you watch Hard Knocks? We actually also we I don't I think we are about done with Receiver on Netflix. Oh, I have that coming after I finished my Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders that I'm still in. I'm going to switch to Receiver. It's good because Jones, which is my middle schooler, is playing wide receiver in middle school football. So I was kind of forcing him to watch it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Is it family? Is it appropriate for the family? Yeah. I mean, for this mom, for this millennial mom. Do you all watch quarterback? That was badass. Yes. Oh my god. Receivers is just like that. Exactly. I love it.
Starting point is 00:30:38 It's the Renz Repeat. I love full swing. I love whatever perfect match or whatever the tennis one is. I watch every single one of them. We should have it about podcasts. HR, HR, social media creators. We'll have some of our, well, Frank. We'll have Molly, Cindy, Dan from HR. We'll have a crew on there. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That'd be kind of funny. For sure, for sure. You need a voiceover. That's what we need. If you ever need a voiceover for something, that's Leah's your person. Absolutely. I would absolutely love to participate. Oh damn.
Starting point is 00:31:18 On that note, I hope I don't get a lot of reach outs on doing like sex lines, which I've been asked to do considering the story share I shared earlier in this happy hour. And now with you asking or saying she could do voiceover, you know what I mean? Yeah, I've kind of set you up for that. I know, I know. Apologies. Yeah, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I'll take it as a compliment. For sure. Oh gosh. Well, on that note, which is a weird one to leave on, but everyone enjoyed their weekends. Please take a break and relax. You deserve it. You've earned it.

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