HR BESTIES - HR Besties Happy Hour – Unhinged or Free Spirited?

Episode Date: June 14, 2024

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Happy Friday. We made it. We made it. Cheers. Big sigh of relief. I don't know what that sound was. I don't either. I can't wait to see what the transcript on Apple Podcast says about that sound. It was like one of those scree creature monkeys or what was that? Oh my God. I was about to say something very, very terribly. Here we go. Obscure. Not obscure, actually obscene. Are we going to have to beep you again?

I won't. I won't. I won't. Trigger warning every episode, every trigger. I won't. I just won't do it. It had to do with the horse though. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Beep, beep, beep, beep.

We did our first ever beep. My parents listen to the podcast, so I'm going to have to ask them their thoughts on this episode. You may just not respond. But it was funny because you two did a pre-listen on the episode. You all are really good about that. I'm not very good. Yes, we are. I like being surprised. It's terrible. But Ashley's like, I think we should do some beeps. And Jamie's like, no. Yeah, I was like, absolutely not. We are not doing beeps. We literally say

fuck every other one. And I was like, what did we say? And like, so I said, oh, a not. We are not doing beeps. We literally say, fuck every other one. And I was like, what did we say? And like, so I said, Oh, a beach. I was like, well, I mean, that's okay. And then Ashley's like, no, it's not true. We need a trigger warning for beastiality. I'm like, oh my God, I totally forgot that combo. You know? I was listening to part of the episode with my kids, not that part. Oh. Not that part. But my son had asked, he's like, do you remember, it was like about the toxic positivity. And he was like, do you remember the things you've talked about when you record? And I was like, not really, honestly.

Like I kind of forget. And I black out. So when I heard that, I thought to myself, we should probably should be that. At least like, yeah, context is helpful. So yeah, I was like, no, we don't need beeps. And then you say what it was. I was like, oh, yes, context. Yes. Now that I have the gift of context. Yes, let's beep. Our amazing producer, Karla. Well, I saw also when she sent it, the episode for us to listen, she's like, let me know if anything needs changing or editing. And like, normally there's not that. And so I was thinking, what could that be?

And very quickly, I learned, probably evolved between the three of us. If someone were going to get believed, I probably doubt you all thought it would be me. Oh, 100%. There's no way. You heathens. Yeah. It would have been me, but... Look at my company.

Not this time. Not this time. Here, here. It wasn't me for once. I was like, wow. I was like, I didn't say that. Oh this time. Not this time. Here, here. It wasn't me for once. I was like, wow. I was like, I didn't say that. Oh, okay.

That's good. All proud. Now, were we drinking during that episode? Was that brunch? Yes. That actually was the very last episode that we recorded that Saturday. How do you remember these things? Because we now have

our full episodes up on YouTube. This is a plug and you can see like behind the scenes and it's not bleeped out on that. She's like, well, she's got a brand of protect over here. She's making a note in her electric journal. She's like, anyway, this is going to sound really silly, but the shirt I was wearing, I remembered wearing it when I got cascarones on my head. Oh yeah, that's right. We did the cascarones. Because I have a picture of me having confetti and eggshells in my hair. Yes.

See, this is stupid, but this is how I know it was the last episode. So you know next week's episode is going to be crunk because we were mad and a little tipsy on Sunday. Yes. Yeah, the tipsy episodes are coming up is what it is. We did start recording, had to stop when there was a big bass drum and cymbals and everything next door. A band next door.

Yeah, like a marching band in your ears. So we prevented that. Yes. So we went and got the quick Bloody Mary or other drink and then popped back in. Yes, yes, that's right. We shot over to the Pearl for those that are familiar with San Antonio and had a little fun there. A little too much fun.

But the content, I guess funny. I mean, I just remember crying, laughing through several of those, you know, because we were feeling good. Better crying, laughing than crying otherwise. I'm just sad you didn't take us by Thomas J. Henry's office. Yeah. I bet he probably has a nice bar in that office, so we could have just popped over there.

Next up. Oh, I'm sure, you know. What's crazy is I sent it to y'all, but after that dream, then I got a job alert for a director of HR that was open in San Antonio for Thomas J. Henry. So I was like, maybe it's a sign. He didn't have, which you should have advised him in your dream, but maybe in real life, he did not include a salary range in that job posting, I noticed. And so I know you don't have to in Texas, but I always

think it's a good thing to do. We always recommend it, but you can guess. I could guess. He doesn't fly a private jet on accident. I could guess it's not in lease salary range. Not in budget. Not for his budget. He's too biggy budgeting $3 million parties, but not paying his people properly. You know what? I take that back. Oh, you're retracting. I don't want to get defamation sued. I know. Don't upset the lawyer in my hood here, you know?

Yeah, we're trying to get the party. We're trying to get the Thomas J. I want the PJ. The Thomas J. Henry-sponsored HR Besties bash. It's a joint effort that nobody's not coming, but we're happily will. Oh, with Megan the Stallion. Yes, exactly. Oh my god, Thomas. Well, he's sponsoring the Comic Con down here next week or whatever the hell it is. I just saw a commercial, I'm not going. I'm not cosplaying or anything, but just FYI. So if he sponsors that, why not the Besties bash? What would you guys dress up as? If you were going to dress up and go to a Comic-Con cosplay, what would you dress up

as? I have everything for Gamora, because I was Gamora from Guardians for Halloween. So I'm ready to go. I was thinking like Sodom and Gamora. No, the green one. Biblical. Zoe Saldana. I don't know who that is. Zoe Sorrah. No, the green one. Biblical. Zoe, Saldana. I don't know who that is. Zoe, Saldana.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay. The red hair. And Wonder Woman. I could do that because I have that. Oh, you'd be a great Wonder Woman too. For sure, for sure.

What would you be, Ashley? Well, I was going to say Minnie Mouse. Geez. Ashley. Oh, for the love of God. I don't know. Like a costume. Minnie Mouse at Comic Con?

Is that not, um... That's for the furry convention. Come on. Okay, Disney adult. I know. I don't know. Princess Peach? I think that would be it.

Okay, Princess Peach. And then I could have a little go-kart and cruise around in the go-kart at Comic Con. And that would be fine. Many. Okay. That's so pure. I don't know. I'd want to be something very, very obscure that not a lot of people would know. And I can't think anything off top of my head.

Why? Do you want people to be like, what are you? Yes. I want people to have to be like, I don't know what you are. Oh yeah. And then you'll think it would be good. Okay. Well, you can be Daisy with me if you want. I I will Yes, Daisy, no, I'd want to be was it Rosa Linda. Yes. Yeah, or actually, you know who my favorite character in Mario Kart is is Birdo. She's my all-time favorite. Like I actually want a birdo tattoo Wow. Wow. She was the boss in Super Mario Brothers 2 She's the little purple dinosaur with the like horn nose.

I see her with that big mouth. Yes, I love her. Berto is my girl. So like if I could dress up as Berto, I would do that. Oh, okay. Well, that'd be cute. And I'm sure some people would actually get that. But a lot of people are like, what the fuck are you?

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True. And I meant to say someone had sent in a personality hire episode last week. Someone had sent in a recommendation and we said like, you know, people might call it a rock star. What she said, they called a celebrity hire. That it's someone that's like well known in the industry, has skills and is like, is well known. And so I kind of laughed. I'm like, well, well-known lawyer, I guess is Thomas Jay Henry. He's really popping in. I like that. And then of course, I think it's so funny though, how dumb I felt because everyone's like unicorn dumbasses. I texted you remember, because we're like, what was it? We could not think of that word,

but yes, unicorn. Yeah, unicorn is also a good one. And I like celebrity. Yeah. Yeah, I like celebrity, though. That's actually really cool. Yeah, so I thought that was lovely. Well, speaking of people sending us comments, questions,

and all those fun things, I did have someone shoot me a question that I wanted to share with you all, and something you all can think about as you listen to this, right, like what advice would you give? But I just found it funny. It was actually the first time I've been asked this, believe it or not, because I get asked a whole bunch of shit. But the person shared with me like how toxic their work situation was and how they, I mean, have just been exploited, abused, were fired. I mean, just the worst thing, right? And then I'm thinking they were going to ask me, like so many do, like, how do I get over this? Right? Like, how do I move on?

Like, how do I heal? How do I do this? And the last line was, how do I get revenge? I love that for them. Now, how do I get revenge? I died. I died. Oh my gosh. Did you respond? Yeah, I did. And, you know, and my advice is, I don't know if Jamie would agree. Jamie can get street, you know, I love it. But my advice was to, you know, not give them the satisfaction, right? Like the best revenge honestly is moving on and living your best life and just watching, letting them watch that, letting them watch you thrive. They're gonna hear about it. Because when people suck that bad, they know they suck.

They're not living great, trust me. So there's nothing you can do to them. They haven't already done it themselves. So it's like, don't bother wasting your energy, effort, time, all of that, like continuing to just wallow and just, ugh, in the negativity, right? Now it's time to fly and move on and just let them, you know, waste away, basically. One thing I always say too is like, karma will come back, but unfortunately, you may

not get to see it. So just live with the fact that don't worry, karma will get them. And they're always going to be pointing at you. Like there was me blaming you for things, blaming fictitious you for things. So you'd rather them point up than point down. So we're on our way and there you go. But I thought that was so cute. Now, how do I get revenge? That is hilarious. That's amazing. Well, you could start a TikTok channel. That's my advice. You could start a TikTok channel and start low key calling them out and they are all watching this shit and they're all listening and it is fantastic.

Am I ever going to know? Hell no. But are they going to be told by other people even if they're not listening? Yes. You could try that, Raul. Told you guys, I got a DM from my colleague from the Amsterdam. If you listen to my Amsterdam, when I ripped the periscope from the ceiling and my colleague that was there, who's good, who's a good friend. And it said it made him laugh and think about some of our our fun trips and adventures and things like that that we had. Because we always, you know,

we always found a way to have some fun. Probably me doing stupid shit. Not surprising, not ripping, destroying company property and the like. But, you know, sometimes you'll hear from those people. And so the revenge and by doing things, you'll likely hear from somebody that you actually liked in that toxic environment later on who's like, I love seeing you do well. Because there's nothing better than that, right? Like seeing people that you know, that you love, seeing them do good stuff. Like, I love that. Oh, well, I had posted a TikTok, I guess it was last week, about that I keep having, I had a nightmare about my old job. And this is a job I had years and years ago,

and I had three different coworkers from that job go, can I guess where? And I was like, yep, you are correct. And they were also old coworkers at that place. So I was like, yeah. Isn't that great? And I love hearing like, oh, it was like from the super toxic workplaces I've been a part of

or bad teams. Oh, you came up in a meeting, you know, you're still coming up at the meeting. I bet I am. Why don't y'all just start your meetings out with my TikToks and learn a thing or two? That'd be great, you know, but that does feel good, doesn't it? Oh, damn. When I don't hear a thing about them just for the record. Revenge.

See? So there you go. You don't have to get revenge. Jamie, you had, didn't you have kind of something cool happen this week? I did. I was finally recognized. But it was very awkward. And I'm such a dumbass.

I was dropping my youngest off at camp on Monday and one of the counselors came up to me and she was like, Oh my God, has anyone ever told you, you look like a famous TikToker influencer? And so I'm like intrigued, like who? Oh my God. So I'm like, Oh no, who? And she's like, she does a lot of HR stuff. She also has meme pages, millennial misery and humorous resources. And then like my brain's like, Oh, it's me. And I was like, Oh, that

is me. You're like, show me, pull it up, pull it up. I literally, like, I really was such a dumbass. I'm like, oh my God, who do I look like? I'm like thinking I have a doppelganger and I'm all excited. It was me. And I was like, well, that made my day though. That's cute. See, you got plus, and you got a very sweet DM from someone else that was like, I would freak out if I saw you.

I know. And I had, I got a really sweet DM on humorist yesterday about, I would freak out if I saw you. I know. And I got a really sweet DM on Humorous yesterday about, I would totally recognize you and just all this sweet, sweet, sweet stuff. So, mm. See, Jamie's cool. She talks about her accounts in like humorous or millennial. She shortens them. It's if I was going to talk and be like, I'm a manager.

I posted on manager. I use the full, full word, very formal. I love that for you, Jamie. You deserve it. You deserve it. Oh, I know. Yeah, it was fun. And that's like the best story.

You know, like you had the best first sighting story. Like, it's so cute to me. But like also proves what a dumb ass I am. Who? Who? Show me. I'm like, yeah, like who? What's her name?

If anyone knows Dan from HR, who does, you know, he has a new TikTok because he got banned. I think it's the Dan from HR now, right? Yeah. The Dan from HR, like the Ohio State University. The Dan from HR has been doing videos where he like mimics. I wouldn't call it mocks, but it's kind of funny. Different people that make HR videos. And he did like, I was watching one, and I'm like, who is this? Who is he doing? I had to watch it three times until, not only was it about me, he had my actual office background.

He looked on the screen. Yes. She sends it to us, and I'm like, this is about you. The call is coming from inside the house actually. Who's this? Who's this? I was like, your face is literally on cause he like screenshotted your TikTok. You're like, wait, that's my office.

I know. What's a grandparents day? Are you a grandma? I'm like, who's this about? I'm like, oh, thank you. She was like all offended. No, no, I thought it was funny. Yeah, that's commitment.

And he did me and what did he do? He bought a dark wig and he put- Eyelashes. Mine are real, but he doesn't have them like this. But he put the lashes on and I was like, I mean, they looked so ridiculous. I didn't understand what he said. It was like, the one's like hanging off. It's like a claw.

Yeah, it was like- No, what he said. It was like, the one's like hanging off. It's like a claw. Yeah, it was like... No, it was perfect. It was perfect. Well, and that's the funny thing is like, I don't think he'll be able to do one of me because I don't know. I just don't think... Y'all have like great... I don't know, skits isn't the right word, but y'all have like great skits and I'm kind of all over the place on TikTok. So I don't know if he'd be able to do me.

Maybe that's your brand. Well, we'll see. Maybe. That's it. Yeah. Maybe we'll see. Like a little ADHD girl. And just put some Meg and the Stallion on in the background. The T-shirt, you know? That's it. That's the whole thing. The harness. Yeah, the harness.

Yeah. He'll just put like duct tape around him. That's it. That's the TikTok. Well yeah, because I have, I wear earrings. I was like, oh my God, you even wore earrings. He's like, those are curtain rods. rods, shower, shower, curtain rods I put on my ears. I was like, oh, you're right. It was, it was funny. No, he did a good job. That made me laugh for sure. But didn't he get in trouble? Yes. I was so happy when I was telling my kids, I was trying to tell them and I was

like, wait, where is that? I text him and I was like, where, where, where'd the video go? He's like, oh my God, it got taken. Someone reported it for harassment. It got taken out. So what was me? I thought it was funny. So but now I think it's I think it's back up the irony, right? Right. Because when you report something that's actually harassing or bullying you, they do not. That is the facts. I'm not bitter. I'm just saying. And by the way, for those so we can just say this, there's been a lot of things lately with TikTok spam accounts coming up and people are like, this is a spam account

pretending to be you. We don't know that that's us because what those people do, they will come and this is like a bot will come and take a bunch of our videos. I don't know how they do it. And then they will block us. We can't see that they're out there. And then they post and then if they'll follow people, you know, they'll follow people and they'll DM you saying like crypto or I've had people, they'll say they'll message and say, I'll give you a deal on manager

training. If you've been mo you know, and so people it's it's so if you see those spam accounts, and this very disappointing thing is that when every once in a while they'll unblock and I'll see it and I'll go to report them, I will report the account as me. And no, TikTok will say that is not a community violation. So just know we are doing what we can. I was really lighting a guy up on LinkedIn who was very responsive at TikTok and then he stopped responding. He was taking things down and now he stopped responding.

But anyway, so that is one thing I wanted to say because that happens to all of us. I'm so glad you called that out because I mean, I've seen like 30 or 40 spoof HR manifesto accounts. It'll be like dot HR manifesto, H dot R dot, right? I mean, you know, my name is just run together, HR manifesto, you know?

And so they do that just like Ashley said, then they block us and bless. I have people DMing me all the time like, this isn't you or just letting you know or whatever is like, I literally can't see it because they block me and then I report all I can and ah, you know, it's crazy. I even sent TikTok last week my trademark documents because I'm trademarking HR manifesto, right? It's in application, you know, for the next year or so. Yes, same. Dang it. You know, I wish I was verified. Just throw that out there, TikTok. That way we can get around that.

Yeah. Yeah. Because that's also, if you're not verified, then if you've ever tried to report an account personation to just report a general account, it'll say me. And again, we've reported it as ourselves and still TikTok's like, not a problem. And then, but if you say a celebrity, celebrity means verified and we are not celebrities in TikTok's eyes. We're not verified. Not pretending to be. I just want the verification to protect y'all. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, oh, I feel bad. Like people are like, they're asking for my credit card. I'm lucky. No one has ever tried.

That's good. I bet they will. I shouldn't say it because now they will, but no one has tried tried. That's good. I bet they will. I shouldn't say it because now they will, but no one has tried to yet. But I also, for my brands, are, Lee and I actually went to the exact same person to be trademarked. Well, so did Ashley, right? Yeah, Ashley years before us. But yeah, like so. It was Ashley's recommendation. Shout out. We are also in trademark as well, so soon. Protect yourselves, people.

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is, would you describe yourself as an influencer, especially in public out loud? Fuck no. Never. Digital creator. Speaker, writer. I don't even say digital creator. Hopefully comedian one day.

I'd just say chief meme officer, memer. Memer. Someone told me they were a memer. I would think they're saying memaw. I'm a memaw. You're a grandmother already and you look so young. Well, because I think y'all are digital creators. I don't know. I just do more memes than anything.

Never a digital. I wouldn't even think about that. You're more a business owner. Yeah. I mean, you're creating that big ass bring in. Well, I'll tell you, this happened. I was in a position where I and 35 others a couple weeks ago, last week, couple weeks ago, had to publicly announce things like our name and our profession.

And that came up because I had jury duty. And so two things. So I had two things. I had jury duty in DeKalb County State Court. And I went, funny thing is I walked in and saw one of my neighbors and Lee and Jamie laugh about how where I live in Dunwoody in Atlanta is like Sesame Street and you just see the, you know, lots of people. I don't, it's because everyone here knows everybody. So it's not a me thing, it's a us thing, I guess. And so anyway, so I saw one of my neighbors chuckling. Well, then

they start calling him. It was like comedy hour. The person leading it shout out to the Cab County State Court, everyone there. They were so funny. Like this guy's like, all right, we're going to watch this video. He's like, but there is a lie in this video. It says there's a snack bar. He's like, there was a snack bar. I would be, my ass would be there right now. And he's like, it was very funny. So everyone's like Chakalyn. Anyway, so I got called up to the courtroom as one of 36 to potentially be on this jury for a case. And so you had to go around and say your name and job.

And so I'm sitting there thinking, I'm like, how would I describe myself? But this person in front of me, he was like, I'm something like I'm a school administrator or something and a small business owner and a social media influencer. And I was chuckling because it kind of reminded me of the show, Jury Duty, if you've watched it. But I was like, wait, oh God, what do I need to say? Do I need to say? Because you know me, saying too many details. I have a business where I provide manager training and I do social media videos where I talk about manager training and I have a podcast called HR Besties. Listen, shout out. What am I going to say? No.

I'd say I'm going to journey and get out of there, right? Well, I didn't. I didn't because I don't practice law. And so I said, but so I said, I just said, I own a manager training business. It was, you'd be proudly, it was the shortest I've ever, it was. That's the shortest you've ever spoken. I didn't have my phone to use chat. I just said it. Oh, look at you. Even when I like meet new people or like my children's moms or parents, I'm like, I'm an HR consultant. Like I don't say it sounds braggy or something. I don't know. I find it cringy.

Yeah, like if people already know that's one thing, but. I just don't like the attention. So that's why I wouldn't say that, you know. So long story short, I was injured. I thought it was going to be some car crash, like hopefully everything's fine, two people on one side, one on the other, blah, blah. Well, they start asking questions. This is called voir dire, to see, to say, is what it means. But anyway, they start asking questions. And the first question these lawyers are asking you to strike people is have you ever been aware of unwanted text messages in the workplace?

Unfortunately. Oh my God. I'll perk up. I've gained three inches and wonder what is this shit? Oh my God. And there's, but of course, so I have to hold my paddle up and stand up and then I start talking too much. Well, I've been in legal and HR and blah, blah, blah, blah. And then it was like multiple, multiple more, more things like that. And so pretty quickly I realized I was probably not going to get picked for this jury. And so we had a break and I went and sat in the hallway and met a new friend who was 71 years old. I know, cause she told me and she was like, she was showing me pictures

of her grandkids. Like awesome. Like we're like chatting it up and having a good time. Extroverts. Yeah, totally. So we go back for like 45 minutes. And so, yeah, so we go back inside and they announced the jury numbers. I was not among them. But my new friend was, and ever since, all I can think about is her on this case. Because after, you know, you can't, you can't have known anything about this case, can't research and all those things. I was not aware of this case. It was in Dunwoody where I'm from, in the police department. And it was like, if you are listening to this podcast, I won't go on and on about this, but if you Google like Dunwoody police department lawsuit, it was a civil suit, was not criminal. So it

was like a former police officer suing his lieutenant, also former for various reasons that will become evident, about text messages in the workplace. And the reporting on this has been like, I'm like, I normally read the local Dunwoody paper. How did I not hear about this? I mean, it was, it was, yes. And I was like, why is his wife there? Like, why is his wife suing? And it was like, well, you can see that as well in the, in the, the allegations. Buddhist baseline employment law, employment law, you law, intentional infliction, emotional distress, all these things. In some of the languages in these text messages, including like, oh, this lieutenant allegedly found to be liable by the jury for

some of these things, but like took a picture of this police officer at a urinal and texted it to him was like, you didn't even know I took this picture or something. Like, ha ha. And that was the most mild of these things. He also called his penis a turtle. That is so gross. Which I don't appreciate. I like texting Liam Jamies because I said, we were friends and we were friends. I told him, oh, I have jury duty.

After I got out, I was like, you guys will not believe this case. Now it's been in the paper since because it was a jury verdict, but it was a lot of don'ts for the workplace. So soon we have coming up, we have coming up some other stories about workplace specifics and I won't get into, go into this one, but the irony of potentially being on a employment law. An HR case basically, you know? Sure.

Yeah. employment law. And HR case, basically, you know? Sure. Yeah, we've all seen those. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, he was literally, he was essentially bribing other policemen for sexual favors and photos for jobs, other, like jobs outside of the office, like, you know, special duty or security, higher paying jobs, obviously, than police, like bribing them with his turtle. Yeah, I was like, he called his own junk a turtle. I thought he did.

So he's a grower, not a shower. Is that what he was saying? I'm pretty sure he referred to his penis as a turtle. I'm just trying to get the facts of this case straight, okay? I will call my friend. I will let her rename list from the jury, my friend, and let her know. I'll ask her how... Did you exchange numbers?

I didn't. And again, probably you'll be surprised. You would think that would be the case. But it was, yeah, like that aspect. I was like, huh? I was like, because I had Jamie's favorite animal, turtle. When I saw that, I was like, I don't know if that's the animal you want to be using. Yeah, like all the animals that you could use.

I'd say python or something. I mean, you want something long and thick, right? I mean, to say turtle, I mean, a hard shell. Well, and then I said a baby fist. Oh, no. And that did. Oh, my god. I had 28 heads. Anyway, moving on. I know.

Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. But it's a good example of workplace dynamics and how things can happen for a really long time. And I know a lot of the crux, and this is for more Wednesday episodes, but is about how things are allowed to happen in the workplace because people are afraid of the consequences of what that can happen from job loss to not getting these after off-duty assignments, which is where some of these police officers can make good money. And so it shocked me and certainly shocked 12 members that were selected of the jury.

Fear and power, right? I mean, my gosh, you know. That's right. I've had to sit on a few cases like that. I say sit on because almost said that's what she said. Sorry, I paused because I was... Well, my mind went to mush as well. I know. I'm like, I'm talking about appropriate conduct. Do as we say, not as we do during happy hour. Because I'm not exactly typical HR. Oh my God, we're the worst. But everywhere I've worked, again, like a handful of Fortune 100s, we always had to sign the arbitration thing.

We're not going to court. And so we'd always go to arbitration,, right? Like we're not going to court, right? And so we'd always go to arbitration and especially in labor relations, I would be investigating a lot of those cases and you arbitrate constantly. Like you have a monthly schedule of big cases that I've had to sit on some really wild cases there. And I would be the poor sucker having to do the research, right?

Well, give it to the young one to view all the porn to see, is it really porn? And how bad do you think it is? Bad, bad porn? I don't know. I don't know. Like, super bad. I mean- Four Xs instead of three? I don't know. Exactly. Like what's the Likert of like porn? I don't know. Like tell me what the scale is. That's a very scientific term there from our master's degree. Oh my gosh. Oh, good times. So again, show from our Wednesday episode, you know, HR, you got to be prepared for the stuff you'll see.

And also when you're called as a member of jury, you never know what, you got to be prepared for the stuff you'll see. And also when you're called as a member of a jury, you never know what you're going to see. Mm hmm. See, we have a lot of people that listen to this podcast, speaking of people writing in, right? That are going into HR. Like they're listening to us, God help them, you know, for, for insight on their career and listening to what may happen on the job. I mean, wow. Like, buckle up bitches.

You're going to see some dicks. Well, like I said in Wednesday's episode, there isn't a week that goes by that I'm not shocked. Seriously. And I love that. And really, I joke about this because, you know, I've been doing this for so long, but you become quite jaded. You are like shocked about the human race.

Sometimes. That's true. Absolutely. It's fascinating. I love it. But you'll love it. Come join us. I know you will love this. Every day is different. Love. For real. I love it. But you'll love it. Come join us. I know. You will love this. Every day is different. Love.

For real. I do. I love the breakthroughs. I love the breakthroughs. So you got to have that thick skin and... That turtle shell. That hard turtle shell. Oh my God. On that note, on that note, wait, what's our good stuff to end? Oh, does anyone have any feel good Friday stuff to share? I got something. You want me to share something? Yeah. Get it girl. ATAR manifesto started because I started writing a book, right?

And so I have written that book and it's in manuscript and I'm reviewing that manuscript. Can you fricking believe it? Like 20 years later after I said I was going to write it, you know, so that is so awesome passion project, but hopefully it comes out later this year. That is amazing. You know, it's funny that you mentioned that Lee, because I remember, I think it was in 2021 when I think we very first talked you mentioning that and I was like, Oh my God, that's so exciting. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it was sway joy too. I'm not sure, but like, I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's awesome. I can't wait. It's kind of morphed like, you know, things do, but, and I have ADHD, but medicine does, you know, so yeah, I'm getting there, you know, like, hopefully I can put that out. I say, hopefully look like it's not going to happen. If you're listening to this, send me a note and say, you can do it. Finish this girl, help me help myself be accountable. But I'm getting there. I think that's so cool.

I think it's awesome. You've been keeping us posted on some of the behind the scenes and I think it's very, very cool. So that's awesome. Yeah, Lee. We'll be hosting your book launch tour, of course. Oh, it'll be at a bar. Ha ha ha.

What else? Any other Feel Good Fridays? What you got, Jay? I mean, this is stupid, but I was just going to say that I go on vacation soon. And I don't. OK. Do do do do do do do. No, because it's not. It's like still like a week and a half away. I go on vacation soon. Don't? Okay. Well, no, because it's still like a week and a half away, but I am already, if you

could see behind me, I have two suitcases, me and my husbands and then my boys. And we found out another little family member is coming with us. So I'm just even more excited. Pied Piper Jamie. She's always... Yeah, I always got some kind of kids in tow. So I'm just like even more excited. Pied Piper Jamie. She's always, she always. I always got some kind of kids in tow. So I'm very excited. A little note to Jamie and to those listening,

don't diminish the things that bring you joy. So this aspect, but this like, oh, I just, you know, just going on vacation. That is awesome. And you, as we know are one that does not do that much for yourself. You tried your hardest to come down to Atlanta and have some joy with Megan Thee Stallion. And we had fun watching her on Instagram Live together. But it's important. And your team is listening. And for a lot of people, they may have one vacation a year. And they have a lot of joy.

And they're planning on that. And it's easy to get caught up in all that stuff. But so I think it's awesome. And you deserve it so much. And we cannot wait for that vacation content. Because if you've seen Jamie's floating in the pool pictures, Jamie can chillax on vacation. Oh yeah. You deserve it, girl. There you go. You deserve it. And you're going to the beach.

Drinking that white clod. You're going to a beach. Oh my God. Sunshine. Yes, we're going to the beach and it's the same beach we have literally been going to. Well, us as a family, but also the same beach I've been going to since I was like seven or eight. And it's really the only place we go all year as a family. So I'm very excited. I love that.

However, these shark attacks, if they could fuck off. That is real. Good God. And if another, if one more fucking person sends me the video of it, knowing that I'm going to the beach, y'all can fuck off. Oh my god. Yeah. Like, hey, I don't know if you know the spitch sharks actually live in the ocean. That's like their home and we're visitors in their home. What? Just be careful. Yeah You be careful. Well, of course. That's awesome, feel good news there.

I'm so happy for you. And I want to see the pictures for sure. Like toes in the sand photos. Not that I'm a feet person. I just like the vibe. Oh yeah. I'll be very obnoxious. Don't worry.

Celebrate. My one vacation. As you should be. Except with us, us besties have several vacations together. Yeah. I mean, work vacations, but they're definitely, us besties have several vacations together. Yeah. I mean, work vacations, but they're definitely, they're a shit ton of fun though. Yeah. We have some potential fun, fun vacations coming up.

Ooh-ooh. Yes. Well, I'll give you my good news, which is short, which is I share this as we started. As some of you listening may know, most of my parents moved to the villages, from Kentucky to the villages, Florida. I have quickly become a huge fan of, I love activities there's there's never a dull moment at the villages and I love it. Their neighbors are so nice. But so my parents had their driveway painted and it's with the palm tree on it and it's it's so precious. It's so Florida and so I'll I

can't wait to go down and and go see it see it myself hopefully soon. But so shout out share it on our stories because it you think your parents will let you share it? Because it is so cute. I think so. Yeah, it's real cute. Again, they're big fans of it. Maybe not some of the stories I share, but they're, I love what they're doing.

They've created a very nice life down there. So that is a Florida thing? I've never seen that, like in Texas or whatever, painting driveway. It's definitely a thing in the village. I'm curious others in other places of Florida, is that a thing? Like we walk around and we had Rosie the dog, you know, my dog, the dog, the Rosie dog, the Dan from HR. Okay, Megan thee Stallion.

Rosie the dog was with us and we were, so we were walking, you know, not that I couldn't walk without a dog, but there we are. But a lot of people have these painted driveways and they have the cute, the fresh signs everyone, like if you two were living together, it would be like Jamie and Lee, like chilling are we, or you know, whatever, like it's precious. So I really like it.

Oh, that is cute. Shout out to your parents living their best lives. Yes, very good. After a very long, hard fought careers and now living it up. So, oh yeah, well deserved. Are they ever going to give Jamie and I an invite to come down there?

No, oh my God, you know this. My mom is like, first of all, my mom is ready to come hang with us in San Antonio after the display. She's, oh my God, my parents, my parents would love it. I mean, they, I posted some videos on this, I manage her method. When I visit my parents, like my mom will have like treats on the bed. Like, oh my God, love it.

Five star hotel shit. Yeah. Like it's just, you know, little stuff. She used to get magazine, like if you like a magazine, she'll have the magazine on there. And so she's, is it a recent? Yeah, not like, like the, like the nail salon would be 1998. What the fuck? Elle in 1998. You know what?

Like within the last three months magazine for sure. Like fairly recent enough. Yeah, pretty, it's a very, very high end. Oh man, need some sunshine. Oh gosh. Well, that's a lot of feel good. We hope you have some things to feel good about, you know, out there.

Oh, there's some of ours. Celebrate everything everyone, love. Please, TGIF. TGIF. TGIF. TGIF. TGIF. TGIF.