HR BESTIES - Personality Hires

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

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Have you ever taken your kids to work? Yes. Have you ever done a take the kids to work day? I have. I have. Have you ever taken your kids to work on a day that wasn't a take your kids to work day? Yes. I have.

I'm guilty of that. Have you ever worked the full day with your kids hidden under your desk? No. No. Okay. All right. No, I barely worked the day that I brought my daughter. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to. So I was sitting in my office working one day and I get a call from somebody in engineering stating that, oh, one of the engineering managers has their kid hidden under their desk.

I was like, wait, what? They're like, yeah, he brought his stepdaughter to work, and she's just hidden under his desk while he is taking meetings in his office, going to meetings, leaving her there at a very dangerous, regulated work site that requires PPE and you name it. And he has an eight-year-old, if I recall, hidden under his desk. She's doing an earthquake drill? Right, all day.

Well, I'm thinking like, does he also have like a bowl of water down there for her? For real. Sweet. I mean, it's summertime. Yeah. Right? All day? Well, I'm thinking like, does he also have like a bowl of water down there for her? For real. Sweet. I mean, it's summertime. Yeah. Right? I mean, I don't want to go off on a tangent of lack of summer support for children. That's true.

That is true. Because that is quite the tangent. That's like four episodes. Yeah, don't even get me started on that. Four episodes long. That's another podcast. Yeah, that's another podcast episode. But I was like, oh my God, you have got to be kidding me.

Oh gosh. All right. Well, where is he? Oh, well, he is at lunch. He was gone. And I was like, no, no, no. No, he is, no. Tell me he's still in the building.

No, he's walking out. He's leaving. He's running probably to go get food or whatever. My ass jumps up. I run to the front of the building. I can see that he's walking. He just got out of the building, was walking through the parking lot. I run out there and I was like, hey, hey you.

And he's turned, I was like, come here right now. Get over here right now. You always know where you now. See, you always know where you stand. Oh, you always know where you stand with me. And he was not in a good spot. Okay. He was in quicksand. He wishes he was under that desk. Oh man.

And I tell me, tell me there is not a child under your desk right now. Are you fucking kidding me? I was like, you turn your ass. No, I have to go run an errand. I have to go do it. No, no, no. You turn your ass around right now. You go get her and you leave for the day. Well, we don't have childcare. Then you work from home. And this was back in the day where that wasn't a thing. Right. And it wasn't really for this, this employer

at this site. And I was like, you just please model the right behavior. You do what you have to do. Okay. And it's like, oh, like he was freaking out. No, I have to do this. I have meetings. No, your number one obligation, I'll just never forget, is to that child. And he's like, well, she's not even really mine. Because you know, they just had gotten married or whatever.

And this is what I've been. Yeah, it was crazy. And I was like, oh, turn your ass around right now. And you go take that child and take her somewhere safe. Get her out of this facility and building. She's not even registered at the front. No PPE. No PPE. I mean, just the horrific things that could have happened in this facility and building. And what if she would have gotten out from her desk cage, you know what I mean? And went onto the floor or whatever. She probably called him Chuck.

I mean, she could have been seriously injured. I mean, but just the selfishness on his part and the lack of just complete thought about being a leader, the responsibility of that, the responsibility of being a stepparent, youarent, or being in custody of that child, even if he didn't consider himself a parent, obviously. But you know what I mean? It was just like he brought a plant into the office. I mean, I was just shocked. And I really did talk like that.

I can get cray because I do the HRIs and shit. You know, I will put the fear of God in you, but literally I was like, hey, you come, come here right now. Tell me there's not a child. Like come here. Yeah. You tell me there is not a child under your desk right now. Just the irresponsibility of that.

I should fire you on the spot. That is so grossly negligent. That is, like I was upset. He's like, oh, turn your ass and oh, I have things to do. No, no, you're number one thing. You're number one thing. Can you believe it? Yeah, I can. Sadly. Yeah. Because people, people be people. People be people. People be people. Yeah. People be people. And this guy was tripping. Yeah. His boss would have let him be. I mean, you just take a personal day. Yeah. I'm an executive. I don't come think for one second. And so for him to say that's not even my child, I think of my...

You do. Like I may not have given birth to them, but they are my children. And so like that hurt my heart. He did not give a shit. Obviously he treated her like a dog. It's like a plant on the floor of his office. I hate that. Yeah, it was gross, you know?

And I let him know. Don't worry, I let him know. Good, good. I did not beat around the bush on that one. There we go. I'm mad. It's one of those times you just really want to cuss into somebody, but you can't because I'm going to stay employed. I probably would have been like, what the fuck are you thinking?

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I'm trying to think of the right word there, personality hires. Our personality hires is, because the topic is. I think topic is. I think number is, but number goes to the subject. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Diagram descends. Exactly, yeah, we'll write that out here, but whatever.

Someone's gonna let us know. We're gonna talk about, someone will, and I will totally ignore that DM. Just FYI. Someone's going to do it. Return that gift. Yes, so someone will correct me and I appreciate that. But the topic is personality hires, right? So we're going to talk about what those are.

Oh, gosh, see, this gets more and more difficult trying to speak English here. We're gonna talk about what our personality hires. Who is a personality hire? I know what are they, thou them, what? So we're gonna dive a little deeper into the world of personality hires. I know we're all seeing those funny memes and all sorts of stuff on the socials

about personality hires. So we'll talk about that. And then of course, as always, we'll transition to questions and comments before closing the meeting out for our hard stop. We got more meetings today, don't we people? We better get there. Ashley, kick us off with our cringe corporate speak. Today's cringe corporate speak, it's if you're looking out the window and it's getting toward

dust. It's that term of sunset out the window and it's getting toward dust, it's that term of sunset. No, no, no, no. It's not as peaceful as it sounds. Yeah. Sunset, you may hear of it, of a major initiative that you've scrambled, you've worked weekends for, lots of people have, this is our urgent priority. And then it comes with a bang and it goes out with a whisper of, we're going to sunset that project actually. And that means you're going to stop doing it. I'll be going to put it in the parking lot. No one's ever going to hear of it again. And you are going to regret all of the time, energy, and attention that you spent to that project. I'll capture it in that one word, sunset. Oh gosh. I've actually heard it in a riff. I mean, sunset somebody? Wait, say the sentence. Like, literally use that we are sunsetting this department.

Shut up. I'm not shitting you. They did it over people? What the fuck? That's embarrassing. Yep. That's one word for it. Yeah, that's not even used right.

It doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't even make sense. We're killing people. I mean, it's just like a weird vibe. It was a layoff of a particular department. And the executive in the meeting were sunsetting this department. And I was on those calls and I was just like, can we think of a different way to word that?

Oh my God, if you're in HR and you have heard that, you've heard of leaders saying things and you're dying inside when there's some of this. I really, I probably had a reaction. If you were a cat, you would have lost a life on that day. Oh my gosh. I would not be alive if I was a cat in HR life. You know what, that's true. That's a great point.

But yeah, but the sunset, just like a euphemism of like we didn't, and it's so interesting because there's excitement, there's so much money spent on these big projects and then they go away. Yep, and then they go away. And then they just... And it's literally like no... Unlike employees who hear about it for years of their mistakes, you'll never hear about it. Yeah, it's like a pretty way to put a little bow on something, I guess. I love to glance out the window and see a sunset.

Look at, oh my God, I'm going to take a picture, put it on my Instagram. Beautiful, hi. Thankful for this day. But no one ever says thankful for missing. Yeah. Thankful for dialing in from vacation for this 40 person conference call. For years.

Yeah. For years. This recurring meeting I had for this major initiative that's never going to see the light of day because we're sun setting. And so, OK. Do you ever sunrise anything? I've never heard of that, you know. That's going to be a kickoff meeting.

Someone's going to say that and be like, you have one called the sunrise. Yeah, try speaking that in. Sun also sets. Sun always sets. Oh yeah. Try to sunrise something at work today if you can. Hey, let's sunrise this. And then people will be like, wow, I love that.

Yeah, exactly. Brilliant promotion and selling promoted. Exactly. Oh, let's sunrise that. I love it. That's true. Anyway, let's sunset that as a French corporate speaker. Yeah. Let's sunset the cringe. Awesome. Transition, of course, to our hot topic, which is all about personality hires.

What is a personality hire? Well, it's funny you should ask because I wanted to Google it because I have my own definition of personality hire. Well, how do they differ? Well, that's funny. I think they do. Actually, it does differ. It does differ because how you're using it, I was like, is that really it?

Okay, let's define it. Let's define it officially. How it's defined by Google is a personality hire are workers who leaders hire because of their behavior, not skills. Correct. Specifically, these hires do not have hard skills or experience for their jobs. Many of these employees see their role as adding playfulness to the workplace. Correct.

So I actually disagree with that because I think I am a personality hire. You are not because you've said that and I was like, there's no way in hell you were ever considered a personality hire. Because you've said that and I was like, there's no way in hell you were ever considered a personality hire. But I think I am because I think personality hires actually bring and build culture. But it's personality hire. They're literally hired just for that. Yeah, as opposed to the skills. You're the best of both worlds. Yeah, that's a different term. We can make it up. But that's why you said that. I'm a personality hire. Fuck no, because you're a doer. You're hired to be a doer. I guess you're right.

Not to best your bubble. Cause I know you're like, I'm a personality hire, but you're insulting yourself. You're insulting yourself though. Because that is what it means. I don't agree with the Google definition. It's Jamie against social. That's right. Jamie's going to edit this. Okay. Jamie's a personality hire with substance. That's right. Which I think is the best. We, Jamie's a personality hire with substance. That's right, which I think is the best. We'll put an asterisk on yours. Yeah.

Because I think, truthfully, I do think personality hires are necessary in the workplace because, let's be honest, sometimes the shit that we're doing on a daily basis is so mundane and it's not that fucking serious. Like we're in the trenches of emails. It's so mundane and it's not that fucking serious. We're in the trenches of emails. It's not profound. Sometimes it's fun to have a little jester. I've been funny comments in the town hall chat or sending funny gifts or going around the office myself.

I love a dress up day. So if there's an excuse that I can create like some sort of dress up day. So, you know, like the ladies last night at the meet up. Yeah. Like they all dressed up as inflatable dinosaurs. Like I, I one year won a costume contest because I wore an inflatable dino costume, but I was like riding it. I like this. I love like a dress update. That's why I'm like personality higher, you know? It's just fun to like sprinkle in. No, I agree. But what is that called? That's a thing. Is that cheerleader? Is that, you know what I'm saying? Like that's something else.

Well, I'll tell you this, I'm so like it insults you to call yourself that because you're such a credible expert and hard worker. Well, someone would probably call it a rock star. Oh, God. But there is a term. There is a term. What is that called in the... Oh, gosh, we don't see enough of them apparently.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I had once I interned, I actually told Jamie this yesterday. So I interned at the FAA, the Federal Aviation Authority. Oh, I remember you mentioned it. Administration? When I first did my resume, I printed all of my hard copy resumes and I realized I'd said the wrong one. And I was so mad. I said- And now you can't even remember which one it was. No. Anyway, FAA. And in the legal department, and there was a guy who worked there in more

of an admin role. Administration, by the way. Oh, OK. I just Googled. Oh, administration. Oh, I thought you were correcting my use of admin. And I was like, OK, I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm sorry. All right. Grammars off this administration. But he was more of an admin and he was older. But same. I do try to bring a high level of skills.

But I also like to have a good time at work. And so I likewise. But every day I go down and get some popcorn and come back eating popcorn, probably dripping it and dripping it in places. But I know he was like, he nicknamed me cool breeze because he's like, you're like a cool breeze on a hot summer day. You just make this, you make this place so much fun to be in. And I laughed so hard, but for me, um, I don't, I don't know. I just have always like, I appreciate everything I do. I bring a, I try not to be an annoying level of enthusiasm.

I'm sure someone probably does. Oh, I'm sure people hate me. But I like to have fun. So I like that was my, that was my favorite nickname I've ever had for sure, which was cool breeze. But it is the kind of this like just having a little something, but you have to you can't be like Tracy Flick and election if you know what I mean. Nope. You know what I mean? Nope. Have you seen that movie? Nope.

Have you seen that movie? Nope. No. Okay. Well, that'll stop there. Someone who's listening. You can't be like a goody goody, like annoying. Oh, okay. Oh yeah. Yeah. I get what you mean. Straight ladies kind of. Yeah. But I do think, but it's, but, but on the flip side, if sometimes that be, that level of like razzle dazzle can like put the thumb on the scale, which I do not like that corporate saying, but can tip you. And so if you are like, especially depending on your interviewer, and so there are a lot of people that are more, whether it's more introverted or just are like a little bit more guarded,

that are more, whether it's more introverted or just are like a little bit more guarded that then that can hurt them a bit in that hiring process. And so I think people have to remember that. Like ultimately you are hiring people to do the job. And so focusing that and not trying to bring, be very aware of your biases in that, in that a lot of people that have been my favorite people to work with are not like me and they come and they do their role and they do it really well. Yeah. But I think the key point of the personality hire, just from how I've seen it used on the

socials, not how Jamie interprets it, I just think that's a caveat, is that there's this thread theme, however, pick another T word, Ankur, of uselessness from an expertise perspective. They literally are unskilled and only hired because they're enjoyable to be around. Because when that started going around, I saw that, I don't know, a month or two ago, whatever it was, who cares, right? But I saw it this year, really, 2024. And I was like, oh, well, I'm a personality. I had the same thought you did because I've always been hired because I'm like likable

and I joke in the office and I like to have a good time and whatever. And then I started watching the videos. I was like, oh, but wait, those people are useless. Am I a personality? I'm like, no, no. You know what I mean? But there is a term for it. And I was just Googling it.

And I'm like, what is it? Class clown? I mean, what is it? Clown or presence? No. I actually, I'm getting re-situated here because I'm going to read, but- I'm mirroring yours. We're like, I'm looking at you. So it says, you know, one of the strongest indicators of a personality hire would be their soft skills to their hard skills. But I really like what this next sentence says. It says someone who may not possess an overflowing toolbox of technical skills, but is a powerhouse when it comes to emotional intelligence.

Communication in this problem solving is often the result of being a personality hire. And I actually see, I do think I have all those things like. Yes, but you're missing the first part. You are not a person. I'm going to fight you on this one. You're not the first part. You have the technical ability. You cannot be a personality hire. You're not hired for your personality. You're hired because you're bad ass. Like you're the full package is my point. You know, to get into a physical fight, who do you think would win? Probably Jamie. I'm pretty, I got a weak upper body, I'll be honest with you. Yeah, I'm pretty strong.

I'm 150, 511. I'm like, could just fall over in a breeze. That's how I feel. I can't pick up shit. I'm a huge bitch. I can't pick up shit. Okay, I know. But you know, I'm just like, just here to look at.

I don't really do much. Okay, I'm aesthetic. Okay, I'm aesthetic. Jamie likes low cam. I'm scrappy. I'm scrappy. Fuck yeah. I'm just here to look at. I don't really do much. Okay, I'm aesthetic. Okay, I'm aesthetic. Jamie likes a little cam. I feel like you have that scrappy. I'm scrappy as fuck. Yeah, I'm just aesthetic. But with words, I kick ass with words, I'll tell you.

How much would it cost? I can make people cry. I'll get some wagers on that. I'd watch. Oh my God. Jello. Ooh, I know. I really took a dare.

Hold on, you have to. I would hassle you with like, would that be fun? You're fun, you know? I would totally wrestle you. But that's like when we transition to the OnlyFans. But I think one flip on that. One flip on that. Hold on, you happy? I would wrestle you with like, would that be fun? You're fun, you know? I would totally wrestle you. But that's like when we transition to the OnlyFans. But I think one flip on that, one flip on that is sometimes with the personality hire

though, like, and you do, I think sometimes you see it not related to emotional intelligence. I think on socials you see it like the clown aspect without, and it's like, or often it may be like they are related to somebody on the board or related to a specific. Yes, yes. Like that's like the- Nepotistic be like they are related to somebody on the board or related to a specific. Yes, yes, yes. Like that's like the, exactly. The nepo babies. The nepo babies. Yeah, that, that, that.

It's that, yeah. But that emotion, like what you described, which was interesting on that, like the high emotional intelligence, but maybe not the skills. I actually think those people can make great managers. Oh yeah. Especially if they have high enough emotional intelligence not to be threatened by the talent on their team. By those, the talent, yeah.

And so that aspect, which I would, I wouldn't ever, ever have thought of, like a personality higher being a great manager. But I think sometimes recognizing if you're like, oh shit, I'm like, I don't know if I have technical skills, like that's fine. Being a good manager often has nothing to do with that technical aspect. And so anyway, that was a different definition as well. I love this time of year. It's a time for renewal.

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Everyone, even my old boss and the executive team have said, like, My old boss and the executive team have said, we did not realize the impact you had on our culture while you were here, not only to the physical office, because we were mostly all remote, but actually everyone in the whole company. And I'm not sure how I did that, to be completely honest, because I'm just me 100% of the time. That's why. We can envision.

That's how. That's right. But yeah, I think, I joked with y'all yesterday. I said I could literally talk to a stick, but I just enjoy talking to people and I enjoy little silly things or asking about their child or, hey, did those Jordans that you custom made come in or like, let me see them. I genuinely like connecting with people and just remembering. I have an insane memory like Ashley.

So I like asking, you might've told me something six months ago and I like asking you about it. Or whatever. You're following up. Yeah. And of course I'm going to know when you're buying a house because I'm getting the verification of employment. I'm going to be like, so.

Your banks are calling. Yeah. I'm like, so? Banks are closing. Banks are awesome. They'll call. You have to, they are on it. They'll be like, we need this immediately.

And you're like, oh, I know. There's some banks. I'm like, damn. Right. I know. I'm like, you know I have other things. Total enemies. They're like, we need this by noon. Yeah. I'm like, 10.30. I know. I'm like, you know, I have other things to do. Total enemies.

They're like, we need this by noon. Yeah, we need this by noon. I'm like, 1030. What? We're closing today. I'm like, shit. Of course. But yes.

But I think, but I am, I do feel like my eyes have been opened about the different prospects of personality. Yeah. I just think it's misused on social media then in that definition, like probably like most things. Well, didn't it start in social? Yeah, probably. So maybe you learned it wrong.

Yeah. I always can't assume that Google sees our videos. I love... You can call yourself that if you like, but I don't think of you like that. Just for the record, because I know that you're not that based on the textbook definition. I love the TikToks and the memes though about being a personality hire. There was one I posted semi recently where his dad was a corporate recruiter for 30 plus

years and he was interviewing his dad and he was asking him, what is something? And he was like, each office has to have a personality hire. And I just thought that was hilarious, because I'm like, that's true, though. You know? Like, who is the designated personality hire? You know? That's a good question.

And maybe you don't realize when you're hiring that person that they will become or will be, or you know what I mean? Yeah. But I love your point, though, that the people that kind of do fall in this bucket, and I feel like in some jobs I've kind of been in this bucket, right? I was delivering something, but I could also lean more on the soft skills of a personality

hire and that was really my superpower. They really went unappreciated. You know what I mean? People don't recognize just the power of influence, how incredible that can be, and how that's really hard for the majority of people to probably do, but maybe it's super easy for like a me to do. And that really is a superpower. And to your point, it's an excellent one.

Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. But people, they don't recognize a lot of the soft skills as, you know, talent or skills. As simple as problem solving. Like I'll be honest, I even from the age of 16 working at TCBY being promoted to like assistant manager because I was a problem solver. That had nothing to do with my personality, because I could easily solve problems. And I could think outside the box. And even in my current job, some of the issues that get brought to my desk,

I'm like, no one thought of this, this, and this. So I mean, I do think, not necessarily all personality hires, right? But I think that's a key skill of a personality hire is being a problem solver. Yeah. Yeah. That was part of the Google definition, right? Yeah. Yeah.

But I just dislike how some of those softer skills- We should come up with like a new name for it. We're going to do that. Yeah. Because whatever that is, I'm that. Yeah. Someone who has both. Bad ass bitch,'re going to do that. Yeah. Whatever that is, I'm that. Yeah. Someone who has both. Bad ass bitch. That's fun as fuck. Yeah. And a joy to work with. B-A-B-T-F-A-M. I've only had that feedback thousands of times.

What the fuck? What's my nickname? You know what I mean? Someone who gets shit done. For real. Someone who gets shit done. I mean honestly, like I think people would call that a rock star. I know. It's super cringy. Why are we not that bad as... We've got to pull over better too. I know.

That's overdue. We need that. Oh, yeah. That is cringe. A little bonus cringe. Now we have something to think about in our... Oh, I know. Guys, someone nickname us.

What is that called? Yeah. When you have personality, but you do know your shit and can own it. You know what I mean? But I do love bringing the joy. That is fun. I like to liven up the place. To that point, transition into some questions and comments.

Does anyone have any questions or comments for the team? Did you get a superlative in high school? Like a- Is that an elective? No, like a most likely to blank. If you didn't get one, which one do you think you should have gotten in high school? I was actually nominated for funniest. Oh, there you go.

But I did not win the more popular bitch. Yeah. But, but I will say clearly people thought me to be enough to nominate me and it was just me and this girl and the more popular girl got it. So I'm still a bitter bitch about that. But hey, look who has social media following. So that's true. All right.

Oh gosh. That's funny. Well, me, I didn't even know what superlative meant there for a second. I was like, oh, what delective do I like? Personality higher. I'm going to toilet my hair. No, I don't think I did. See, I don't remember much.

I was, you know, out of it. Before state school wiped away your memory. Yeah, yeah, it did. Yeah, it did. It really did. What was this motion? I know. She's all state school and you get a little hand jerk motion, wipe away your memory.

No, I mean men in black with a stick in front of their hands. That's what she said. Oh, you're the stick. Yeah, the little, yeah. That's what she said. Oh, Jamie. Yeah, I know. That's what she meant. That's what she said.

That's what she meant. No, I don't recall being nominated for something like that. That would happen like senior year or something. OK, Ashley, I know you had to have. And what would I have done? Come on. I won Best Sense of Humor. Ah!

Yeah, anyway. It wasn't popular. I just won Best Sense of Humor. Well, that's a jovial. Corey Clinton was who won on the male side. There's a picture, you know, Pete, you had to take a picture for the yearbook with your percent. And I'll put it on our Instagram. But Corey Clinton was holding me over a trash can. And I was wearing my- They always had to do some photo.

Oh wait, like, you know, like musical, like trombone. Exactly. Yeah, holding me over a trash can and that. So yeah, that was at DuPont Manual High School. I'm part of some leadership organization. I'm an alum of that here in San Antonio and I was voted most likely to be an influencer. Wow. Well. And then I turned out to be an influencer and that's when I had just kind of started. You know what I mean?

There you go. Okay. And maybe a couple months. Expectations and reality. And I got an award and a thing and all that. Very cool. It was kind of cute. Yeah, it was cute, you know?

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I actually was trying to think what our corporate canjey speak was so I could insert it and I can't remember what the hell it was now. Oh my gosh. Sunset. Oh. Oh yeah, sunset. What can you do? What's our most memorable sunset? That's a question for you. Oh, I Sunset. What can you do? What's our most memorable sunset? That's

a question for you. I thought you could ask. You're like, oh my gosh, I don't think so. That'd be dorky. Okay. I'll ask it. She's like, I hate that question. Yeah. So what is your most memorable sunset? Why do I feel like you're cringing your whole body asking that question? I know, like this is the worst. I feel like I've better answer. Well, I wasn't exactly, but last year I went to the British Virgin Islands on a trip and while we were sailing on this, it was not, we were sailing, yeah, we were on a fishing boat going on a day tour, like a very small

boat. But we saw the little small island where they filmed the Corona commercials in the 90s with the little one small palm tree. And sometimes they would have the Corona bottle there, have like the, I think it's sunset for that, maybe the sun was up. But anyway, in my mind, I'm envisioning the sunset in those commercials. But it was so neat to kind of see it was very small. Did they point it out to you? Yeah. They were like, that's the corona commercial. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, we all remembered it.

That's very cool. Enough age to ask, honey. I'd say my most memorable sunset, it's kind of a personal one and it's kind of dim. Like, it's dark and we're on a, we're in a, you know, a light mood. We're in a good mood. So I won't share that one. But see, look at me, I'm so transparent. I have to tell you that this is my second most memorable sunset, you know, but, but very meaningful, the first one, although under circumstances. But the other sunset that I enjoyed very much was in Costa Rica a few years ago.

And I was in the, what is it, Catalinas? Las Catalinas. Yeah, I was in Las Catalinas there and Guanacaste. And oh my God, did that sunset just smack me in the face. I probably took like a hundred photos of it, like while drinking sangria, of course. And in there, sangria. A boomerang. Doot, doot, doot.

Sun comes down. It goes back up. It's a miracle. But with the, you're right. But with the sangria in Costa Rica, just random tangent, they put fireball in So it has this cinnamon essence in it. Oh. That just gave me heartburn. Oh, did it? It was just slight. Oh, gosh. They even put a cinnamon stick in there, but it changed my life. It's so delicious. But anyway, so that was a really good sunset. What about you? What's your most memorable sunset, Jamie? Y'all have some really pretty sunsets. Yeah. I'm like, at the football field with my sun.

Last night was nice. You know? That's beautiful. In the fall in Nashville, it literally is like cotton candy. Oh, I love the pink sky. I can feel that glitter and purple. I have a little. And I have to be out there anyway while he's practicing.

Those always make me happy. I like that. Get ready for Halloween. That's beautiful. It kind of makes your eyes glisten a little bit. I know. That's practicing. And those always make me happy. I like that. Get ready for Halloween. Oh, that's beautiful. It kind of makes your eyes glisten a little bit. Yeah. I know, that's fresh. I always call them cotton candy because the clouds...

No, the cotton candy skies. I like that. Those are my favorite. You can visualize them. Okay. Cotton candy skies. Mmm. Oh, so it's my turn.

Sorry, I went into a place there. I love that. I love that. She just disappeared. I did. Yeah, I just started voice acting that out. I don't know why. But question or comment from me. I have a question this time. We're talking about

personality hires, of course, and we're talking about, you know, they're fun, right? We're bringing the joy to the office. That's always good shit. I think part of that, though, is like getting a little personal with people, right? I mean, like you were saying. So nicknames at work, nicknames in the office, nicknames in your life. Do you nickname people? Do you have a nickname? Are nicknames a thing for you?

Do you like them? Just talk about nicknames. I try not to nickname people at work, the last time I gave someone a nickname at work, I ended up in HR. My old cat piss. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, HR for HR.

HR for HR. It's a cow name. Oh my God. Damn. Yeah. Names. Yes. I like nicknames.

And one thing I liked about Australia is they'll always either lengthen or shorten your names. And so it's like, you'd probably be, you might be like Lizzo, like for Lee, like they'll shorten, or they'll make extension to Lee. Well, he wouldn't be. E, E, this would be E. You wouldn't jazz.

You might be Jax, you might be Jax. You might be jazz. You might be jazz. Jazz. Jazz. Jazz. I was like trying to say jazz. Oh my God. Jazz. But then they'll shorten. And so there was someone whose name, I remember in the story of it, someone whose name was

Dylan, but they did, they called him Dildo. And I was trying to explain to someone, I'm like, but in Australia, that would be a more, like Dildo is like a like Steve-O or like things like that. That's like what people do. And so it's it's inappropriate. And so you should not do it. But it's not as it's not as just completely inappropriate. Exactly. It's like in corporate America.

Yeah, like, yeah, it's like like a what? Who? Fleshlight. Oh, now I know what that is. Yeah. As my mom said, every episode is another Google search that she can't take back. Oh, Fleshlighto. Now I know what that is. As my mom said, every episode's another Google search that she can't take back. Oh, damn. What about you? I love nicknames because I am all about cringe intimacy.

I just love cringe intimacy, cringe levels of intimacy, like really knowing people, allowing them to maybe know some of me. But I like, because people always know where they stand with me. Like if you get a nickname from me, you know, that's a thing. Right? I'm like saying, it's like a badge of affection for me. I'm showing affection that way. Right? And that's how I was raised, you know?

So nicknames for me, I've been called We. So W-E-E. We-Wayna. Because my name is really Lea Layna. So Wee Wayna, right? You know, Lea Lee, right? Ellie, I mean, you know, so I've gotten like, pumpkin was my nickname from my parents, my pet name, you know? So I get called pumpkin, right?

And so I just love that. I've just never like been called my name, you know? So like I've just been raised where it's like, oh, if I like something, I'm going to nickname it. So not me nicknaming my CEO. I don't think we have nicknames yet. Not me. Do we have nicknames? I say Ash.

You do say Ash. That's true. I do. I just shorten it. I just say Ash. And so that is affectionate. That's showing a level of intimacy that I feel as though I have the power to use your name

and how I want. I like it, which I appreciate. That's kind of what it is. I take that as a gift. It does. It feels like a warm blanket. It does, right? And then I say Jay a lot. I'll say Jay.

I'll use a Jay. I called you Dr. Dolittle this morning. I got auto corrected. I was saying doopity-doo because yesterday, Jamie was feeling a little off color, getting tan. And she says, oh, I wonder what I look like. And somebody else, not Ash or myself, somebody else said, oh, oompa loompa. And she was like, okay.

She's like, okay. And I was like, it's giving wonka. We're all like, it's giving wonka. You know? I'm just saying, doopity-doo, doolka. You know, I'm just doing doopity do do little. So yeah, I'll probably call her all sorts of do a lot. She's more do a lot than do a little. Oh, yeah. Dr. Do a lot. Dr. Do a lot.

You know what I mean? I don't think Dr. Do a lot is. Yeah. It's like a bed. You know, everyone's got their thing. I have to actually I have I have a I have a I have I have, I have a, I have a, I have a nickname to share. I have a nickname to share. I thought she said, she's going to say she owned that domain.

No, I, no. I just, I'm about to buy it. Watch this shit. I have a nickname to share that's such an inappropriate nickname, but so at my college, when I was there, there was a librarian and this librarian was younger. I don't know. I mean, when you're in college, anyone who's like 23 and older might as well be 70. But she was like, let's say probably 20, 70, 30.

Anyway, she would always go to hang out at the fraternity and it was like the rough and tumble or fraternity. The librarian? Yeah, the librarian. And I couldn't tell you her real name to save my life. But I could tell you what her name was on the fraternity composite, which she made her way on, which for those, that is where all the fraternity brothers have their pictures, often their nicknames, often they're incredibly inappropriate nicknames. But her picture was also on there

and her nickname was Do-Me Decimal. Oh my gosh. And yes, yes. Oh, okay. This is crazy. We're getting a little off the rails here. I also had a college librarian, lots of them, because I had like 20 libraries at my university, whatever, but big state school. But the librarian for the business school, her nickname was Big Tits McGee. Why are people fetishizing the librarians? Well, our librarian made her way to the fraternity house and was there.

Oh, well, to be fair, Big Sis McGee was, you know. Well, I mean, let's be honest, the Bang Bros loved a librarian. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. Back on the bench. I don't know that. Oh, we're off the rails here. Oh, it's about personality hires. That's right. There's some personality hires in the library. Who would have thought that was such a common theme. Oh, gosh. We have a new sunset this episode. Yeah, we do. I mean, I think we're running late for that next meeting, aren't we? But we

appreciate your time in this one. Hopefully you stayed on the road if you were listening there. Oh my gosh. Thanks for joining us. Even if you are a personality hire.