I Don't Know About That - BMX with TJ Lavin
Episode Date: June 29, 2021In this episode, the team discusses BMX with professional BMX rider and longtime host of MTV's "The Challenge", TJ Lavin. Follow TJ on Instagram and Twitter @TJLavin Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tick...ets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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letters a b c etc how many are there is there any way to find out well you might find out and i don't know about that with jim jeffries you haven't done one of those in a while is there any
way to find out there's no way to find out and what language you're talking about yeah that's true
Tom Stade
is one of my best mates
he does a good joke
about it
he goes
in China
they have over
250 letters
can you believe that
I can't even imagine
how many numbers
they would have
anyway
so the Moist Tour
the Moist Tour
is going gangbusters
selling lots of tickets.
I'm actually surprised about the – thank you to the – I don't know about that podcast listeners who have bought tickets.
I appreciate it.
There's still some tickets.
The dates go to jimjeffries.com.
But tickets for some of the venues are almost sold out.
But for many of them, you can still get some fairly good seats.
And so I'd like to see you when I'm on tour.
We've got a great show worked out for you.
Forrest is going to come with me.
Jason John Whitehead.
Lisa Curry is going to come this time.
Justin Martindale.
Justin Martindale.
Amos Gill.
Amos Gill.
We've got a great show put together for you.
Not all at once.
It'll be a mixed match.
No, no.
You have two opening acts and then me going on with me drivel about blah, blah, blah.
I've had a kid.
La, la, la.
Cock joke. Da, da, da. Religion isn't real. Da, blah, blah. I've had a kid. La, la, la. Cock joke.
Da, da, da.
Religion isn't real.
Da, da, da.
I'm depressed.
But I don't want to ruin the show for you.
Just a sneak peek.
But it's all new stuff.
You're really selling it.
No, no.
I'm actually very happy with this show.
Yeah, you're a good actor.
I think it's one of the best acts I've had in a long time.
So come along.
Jack, what have you got for us?
Well, I got my for us well I I got
my hair cut
so I got a little bit
of confidence back
what did you get
the mole cut
oh
what
I got
people go
did you get a hair cut
you go no
I got the mole cut
yeah
no joke
I thought you said
the mole cut
I heard mole
and I was like
what's that mean
oh it doesn't matter
anyway we all agree
that Jack looks
cut by a blind person Jack looks substantially better with short hair.
It's like he's handsome.
And before, it wasn't like you were grotesque.
I was Grohl-esque.
Before, it was Dave Grohl, more like Dave Gross.
Shut up.
How much hair was on the floor?
It was a ton of hair.
It was a ton.
They had to do three sessions of sweeping it up.
Did you donate it to cancer charities? I think the place that- a ton of hair it was a ton they had to do three sessions of sweeping it up did you donate it
to like cancer charities
I think the place
no he sends it to his mom
I think they recycle it
or do something with that hair
did you keep the tail
did you hear what Jim said
no I was too busy
answering it
honestly
I don't think you want to hear
what Jim said
he sends it to his mother
covered in cum
I told you not to listen.
I said listen back later.
It's for a couple of reasons.
So your mum can hug it and lick it.
Hug it and lick it?
Yeah, hug it and lick it.
And then also so that if you have the DNA in like recreating people,
what do you call that?
Cloning people ever really kicks off, ready to go.
She keeps a cum hair locket. When I talk to my mum every week, she goes, I'm not listening to your ever really kicks off, ready to go. Yeah. She keeps a come here, lock it.
When I talk to my mom every week,
she goes,
I'm not listening to your podcast.
I can't listen to it.
It's too crass.
And then she goes,
I'm out of cum, send me more.
The last batch wasn't any good.
Your mom's not listening anymore?
No.
She refuses.
I don't think she ever did.
Your mom's a metalhead.
When your mom met Kerry King,
she got very excited. So this is like
death metal, but where to?
They're nice about it.
I am going to eat your soul.
You're going to be dead.
I didn't know your mom was a metalhead.
She drags my dad to Metallica
concerts.
That's cool.
My mother liked John Denver.
So we all have things. licking cum in lockers
what are we doing Jack?
so I redownloaded one of the dating apps
Hinge and
I think with Hinge there's certain prompts
that the girls
have answers to so what you do is
you comment on one of the prompts to stand out
so you have like a funny quip or something
so I figured I could use your guys help to send some funny what you do is you comment on one of the prompts to stand out so you have like a funny quip or something.
So I figured I could use your guys' help to send some funny,
ice-breaking messages. I don't write things down very funny.
That's why I don't like when people go,
can you write a message?
Like if someone makes you sign a headshot.
When someone makes you sign a headshot,
I'm just like this, keep on dreaming.
Fuck.
What's your name?
To Chris.
I hate it. I hate it.
I hate it.
I'm not good at it.
Good work.
We did that comedy festival
in Grand Rapids.
It was the,
what's her name?
She died of cancer.
Oh, Rita,
not Rita Rudner.
She was married to Gene Wilder.
Yeah.
Who was married to Gene Wilder?
Richard Pryor.
Anyways, whatever her name was, Gene Wilder's wife.
No one's going to look it up for me.
You have a computer.
I know, but I can't type fast.
Gene Wilder.
Oh, no, that's not it.
Does it matter who it was?
It does.
It does.
I'm just wondering.
It's an old person.
Don't tell me stuff.
Gilda Radner.
Gilda Radner.
Gilda Radner.
Gene Wilder was with Gilda Radner? No. Okay. He was married. Gilda Radner. Gilda Radner. Gilda Radner. Gene Waldron was with Gilda Radner?
No.
Okay.
He was married to Gilda Radner.
So it was a festival and it was like in her memory, whatever.
And Jimmy, do you remember at the end you were signing like stuff for the festival?
Yeah.
And you were like, get better soon.
You were doing it as a joke, but it was very funny.
You were like writing all these.
Someone was like, I heard it's just a cough.
No big deal.
It's like so many things you kept writing.
Oh, God.
No, it was a joke.
It was funny.
They were all laughing on the outside.
All right, Jim.
I mean, Jack, so we're going to write some responses.
Right.
So there's three prompts that we can answer.
First one is, it says like, my personal brand is.
Oh, you can't say their names.
Probably for the best.
Give me a look at it.
So it's a girl.
It's a woman.
And it says for her prompts.
My personal brand is, quote, a Popeye's biscuit away from being a tight end.
Quoted by Booger McFarland.
What?
I don't know.
Is this one of those 1800s jokes again? The quote is, a Popeye's biscuit away from being a tight end,
and I guess the quote's being credited to Booger McFarland.
Booger McFarland, he used to play in the NFL.
He's a sports broadcaster.
And you're meant to respond back to it?
In some way.
You're a chicken tender away from full diabetes.
No, you got to say something nice to get her attention.
Oh, then she'll laugh.
Okay, so that's one.
Because she's not that fat.
And then there's...
What's happening?
Oh, is that you?
Then there's ideal first date.
She says,
anything sports related in parentheses,
going to a game,
watching at a bar,
dot, dot, dot.
This isn't a girl for you, Jack.
This isn't a girl for you.
Well, it's worth a shot.
It's worth a shot.
You're not super sports guy.
I have an LA Kings jersey.
Why don't you say something
about putting your chicken tender
in her tight end or something?
Last one.
Last one on my bucket list.
Naming my future daughter Stacey so I can be Stacey's mom.
Okay.
And then you go, but you ain't got it going on.
No, but he wants to get her so that you get it.
What you should write is you should write like just, you just go, the guy who wrote that
song died from COVID.
Sad.
That'd be hilarious. Did he? He did. He did. Adam Schlesinger died from COVID. Sad. That'd be hilarious.
Did he?
He did, yeah.
He did.
Adam Schlesinger died of COVID.
Oh, that's really funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The guy who did that, he died from COVID.
He was like one of the first big people to die of COVID.
He also, he's quite, he was like in his 50s or something, but he also wrote That Thing
You Do from the movie That Thing You Do, but Stacey's mom was his big hit in That Thing
You Do, and he died from the COVID early on.
Yeah, you should say that. Yeah, so you say- Like, I haven't recovered or thing you do and he died from the COVID early on yeah you should say that
yeah so you say
I haven't recovered
or something
yeah he died from COVID
if you need a shoulder
to cry on
oh yeah yeah
wear a mask
yeah what's
Schlesinger
no Adam Schlesinger
yeah
yeah he died at 52
52 with the COVID
yeah okay
way to bring that up
and it was like
because I remember
it was like around
the same time
that Tom Hanks had the
COVID.
And I was like,
this could date back a long time,
you know,
from that movie.
If I hear Liv Tyler has it,
then I'm really like,
can lay dormant for a while.
The old COVID.
Fountains of Wayne.
Fountains of Wayne.
Fountains of Wayne.
All right.
So you got your first answer.
Did you send it?
For Stacy's mom,
it's he died of COVID sad.
Yeah.
And then say
if you need a shoulder
to cry on I'm here
you need to cry
a fountain of wave
you need to cry
on a shoulder
I've got
if you need
if you need to cry
I've got a shoulder
and a biscuit for you
I used to
I used to
wank off
the Rachel Hunter
as well
or something like that
because she was
in the film clip
she was the woman
who had it going
going on
she's actually
she's the number one
model from New Zealand
Rachel Hunter.
Yeah, somebody
Not that good.
Somebody commented
about her recently.
You don't like her?
She's the best looking
New Zealander ever.
That doesn't make her
a supermodel.
Come on.
Why are you whispering it?
Because I don't want them
to be able to
figure out what I'm saying.
All right, next.
All right, set. Let's see. We've got to find someone who I'm saying. All right. All right. Sent.
Let's see.
We've got to find someone who's suitable.
Oh,
okay.
All right.
We'll just go to one of the,
there's a section in here.
Glad you have this prepared.
There's only so much I can prepare.
Here we go.
Here's a person.
Okay.
All right.
She's wearing a hat.
She goes,
we're the same type of weird.
If you're down to interpretive dance
at the club and make other people think you're serious
one
I'm weirdly attracted to
quirky nerdy witty humor
okay this is our wheelhouse
you think that's you
he's quick
quirky nerdy witty
and you could say what I do is humor
he's quirky and nerdy, witty. And you could say what I do is humor. He's quirky and nerdy.
And then the last one is,
I'm the type of texter who presses send between each thought
and not just one cohesive text, dot, dot, dot.
Sorry, I get a little excited.
Yeah, it's bad, but that's how you'd respond right there.
I should respond to it and I'd go, well, that's irritating.
Don't do that anymore.
You'll never find anyone. Yeah, I think that's irritating. Don't do that anymore. You'll never find anyone.
Yeah, I think that's good.
You're annoying.
But send it in multiple messages.
Have you already matched up with these women?
No, this is to get the match.
This is to get the match.
Oh, God.
That's how Hinge works?
Yes.
Okay.
Are we getting money from Hinge?
No, but maybe when they hear this segment.
So we're basically Roxanne-ing this whole thing.
Block us.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
What does that mean? Roxanne-ing this whole thing. Block us. Yeah. Okay. What do you mean? What does that mean?
Roxanne-ing it?
The movie Roxanne
with Steve Martin
which was actually a remake
I think of an old French thing
where the guy goes
and speaks
like he's got a big nose
and there's a girl he likes
and then she likes
this handsome guy
and then he's dumb
and can't talk
so he stands in the bushes
and he whispers things
for him to say
and she falls in love
with the words not with the guy and it turns out it's really him so he was roxanne-ing the
whole thing so so these girls are going to fall in love with me forrest and kelly and not you
that's i i used to my old roommates used to have me respond to their online dating things and i'm
like you understand that if i'm always having the conversation they're not going to like you
when you first meet and And they didn't understand.
So what is it?
Witty?
What is the whole list?
Quirky, nerdy, witty humor.
So you say, hey, I'm quirky, nerdy.
That's not bad.
That's two out of four.
Two out of four ain't bad.
Yeah, because you're not witty or humorous.
Okay.
No, no, no.
You got to go, I'm all of those things,
but not in that order or something like that.
Yeah.
And then you go, I'm more witty, nerdy, nerdy, nerdy, nerdy, quirky.
Humorous.
And I've got it.
It's quirky, nerdy, witty, humor.
Yeah.
So it's three adjectives describing humor.
This is going well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good segment.
I thought this was going to be more exciting.
I mean, it's because they're not giving us much to work with.
Look, I know that's the problem.
It's their fault.
Give me a look at this girl.
Give me a look at what this one looks like.
Oh, she's hot.
She's not really into quirky, nerdy, witty humor.
She likes that from a very, very hot guy.
Don't worry about my wife just send
no I'm joking
this girl does not want to go out with Jack
come on Jack
she's one of these girls
I like nerds
100%
you're like some retro t-shirt
that has fucking Pac-Man on it
it's like hot people
who say they're
sapiosexuals
and you're like
no you're not
you just like somebody
who can carry a conversation
who's hot
yeah yeah yeah
she's
no no no
this girl's
awesome
there's no way
in the world
you're
you like
yeah Jack
you shoot for the stars
here
then you gotta well you you have to that's what a date would look like There's no way in the world, George. Jack, you shoot for the stars here. You got to.
Well, you have to.
That's what a date would look like with Jack.
You'd be sitting over the table.
Get the fuck out.
Yeah, where is she?
She's in some high rise with some sort of brunch.
She likes to be taken on yachts.
This girl would eat you alive.
She's got a boat.
She would run you alive. He's got a boat. Like she would, she would, she would run you
into the ground.
She would,
I don't even know
what that means exactly.
quirky,
nerdy,
she's not.
She's a liar.
Send it back to her,
say you're a liar.
Just send back the message,
you're a liar.
Yeah,
what she,
what she,
what she,
what she ran out of it
said quirky,
witty,
humorous,
thing,
multi-millionaire.
Exactly.
What if I go, I'm neither of those but I'm very wealthy.
There you go. Send that back.
My money will make you laugh.
I have so much of it.
I'm none of those things.
I'm extremely wealthy.
How about this? I'm none of these things
but I'm extremely wealthy
and I'll buy a joke book.
There you go.
What's that?
You'll match up with her.
Yeah.
Gold plate.
Yeah.
If she responds, we'll know that that was us.
And that's the test.
And if she says something mean back to you, you go,
that was a test you passed.
And then she'll write back, I just really like the picture of you.
And I hate guys who brag about their money.
I would have married you in a heartbeat.
Shame.
And then you can't let her listen to this.
No.
The only way you can't date a smoke show, Jack,
because let's say you fucking bring a smoke show back here, right?
Right.
And we'd be like, because we'd all look at her like this.
We wouldn't look at her like, oh, she's hot.
We'd be like, what are you doing?
What the fuck is this?
She'd realize something is up from us just going, why?
What?
And I'd go, these are my friends.
I would pull her to one side and go, what do you want?
He's a good boy.
He's a nice person.
I don't know what your game is, Missy.
All right, do you want to do one more, Jack?
Yes, let me find someone.
I'm sure this is really boosting your confidence.
Yeah, you can see how I haven't made eye contact in a while.
Your hair looks great, though.
The first girl was very attainable.
You were out of her league, but I was like, all right, she's a, she's a groundwork model.
She's a,
she's a,
she's a tester girlfriend.
I'm in,
I'm in the tough zone of hinge right now
where it takes a long time
to find someone good.
Luis knows what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
It takes a while.
Occasionally those two match up.
Everyone's left.
Still no one?
No.
All right,
we got someone.
All right.
Last person.
All right.
Her name is,
wait,
no names.
My mantra is
I love fake people
I love games
music means nothing to me
I'm not a chill guy
and if you fuck with my friends
I will help you do it
I actually came across that girl
I guess so
that's a weird mantra
she's doing the thing
where she's making fun
of guys profiles
I think
the opposites
of like
let's see
okay so
I like fake people
you go you like fake people.
You go,
you like fake people.
Well, that's great.
These aren't my original tits.
Yeah,
right there.
That's great.
That's perfect.
What did you say?
Uh,
I don't know.
I think I just liked her and I'll be very upset if you get the like back.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
How does it start?
I remember you like fake people.
You like fake people?
Oh,
oh,
you like fake people.
Well, that's good because these aren't my original tits.
Yeah.
DM me for more hot info.
Send her a link to OnlyFans.
Oh, you like fake people?
That's good. Oh, you like fake people?
Question mark, dot, dot, dot.
Dot, dot, dot, question mark.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's good because these tits aren't original or something
because these aren't
my original tits
yeah
good
good good
yeah
that's a good one
that would have worked
well for the humorous
woman
because she would have
found that funny
if she really did
in fact
want to find things
funny but she didn't
so
well guys
we'll have a follow up
in a few weeks
give me a look
at that girl
I already sent it
she's gone now okay let's uh hey we'll find a follow-up in a few weeks. Give me a look at that girl. I already sent it. She's gone now.
Okay.
Hey, we'll find out in a week when she matches, right?
A week.
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How do I turn on my camera?
There's a should be on the bottom.
All right.
Here we go.
Here we go.
All right.
How's it going?
I'm sorry.
Sorry, sir.
I'm sorry.
We've already figured out who you are.
Well, we already knew you to Jim didn't
but
but you have a still photo there
as your
screensaver of
I guess you on a BMX bike
yeah
oops
it's gonna be okay
that's alright
so Jim
this is TJ
TJ Jim
TJ thanks for being here
hi Jim how are you
good thank you
good
I'm a big fan Jim
ah thanks
thanks
are you still on a BMX bike?
Yes, very big fan.
Oh, really?
Very big fan. I love Australia, Theo. I've been there a lot of times. It's great.
It's okay. Sun's a bit harsh.
Yeah, we actually got in touch because he had messaged the show before because he was wanting to come to a taping at some point, but then we got cancelled before he was in LA.
Oh, you're welcome to come. Where are you right now in the world?
I'm in Croatia.
Croatia? Oh, I was going to...
Yeah, a place called Rovinj. I was going to
try to get your tickets to the show, to one of my
live shows. Well, he lives in Vegas, but he's
filming in Croatia right now.
30th and 31st. 30th and 31st in
Vegas if you're back in town.
I know.
I leave on July 22nd somewhere else.
It's a mess, man.
I've been traveling since I'm 14.
No, I get it.
I get it.
All right, well, let's start.
I'm sure you do.
Usually we have Jim Gasswood, but we'll still play that.
We'll talk about it.
You still want to play the song?
Yeah. I'll just say it. I'll just say it. I'll talk about it. You still want to play the song? I'll just say it.
I'll just say it.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll just play the song.
We're recording, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Please welcome our guest today, TJ Lavin.
And now it's time to play.
Yes, no.
Yes, no.
Yes, no.
Yes, no.
Judging a book by its cover.
TJ's a BMX guy.
Okay, for everybody listening at home,
we always have our guests come in on Zoom
before we start, obviously,
and TJ's Zoom came up,
and before the image of him came up,
it was just a still photo of him on a BMX bike.
And Jim goes, oh, BMX.
BMX guy.
The easiest one you've ever had.
Let me introduce TJ. TJ Lavin is a
professional BMXer and current host of
MTV's The Challenge. In the X
Games he took bronze three times, silver
once, and gold three times.
I guess it was in Australia.
He has been the DK Dirt Circuit champion,
a champion in the Gravity Games,
a European Championship winner,
and a CFB champion.
In 1995, he was crowned the King of Dirt.
He also has a video game named after him,
MTV Sports, TJ Lavin's Ultimate BMX.
Oh, then you have a video guy.
Yeah.
And where are you at right now, TJ?
I'm in Croatia filming.
It looks very comfortable.
You're up against a wall.
You look like you're in the back of a service station.
You're probably in a bunker or something if it's the challenge.
I wish, like, so I had a head injury, right?
In 2010.
We know.
Well, obviously, right? So in in 2010 i had a head injury and so now
my short-term memory is shite and every single thing that somebody tells me this goes in one
ear and out the other it's like it's not a matter of disrespect like i i love you guys and i really
appreciate you being so forthcoming and like really doing it
Kelly because I dropped the ball how many times and like today I got home
from work and I'm riding I'm running I'm currently running and then all of a
sudden I look at my phone it's like oh shoot they're waiting for me and I just
set up in the ice cream shop I gotta use the wifi. I gotta get on here. I gotta do this thing
real quick. Is it okay? Can you please turn down the radio? And she said, yes, this, this really
sweet girl. She's like, yes, no problem. There she is. She's so sweet. She said, she said, yeah,
no problem. Just that you don't mind customers coming in. yeah no problem just that you don't mind
customers coming in
I said
no I don't mind
we'll talk to the customers
is it ice cream
or frozen yogurt
that makes a big difference
to me
it's frozen yogurt
oh
okay
in Croatia
I can't trust this bloke
I like frozen yogurt
no but he said
it was ice cream
too misleading
it's the the first place I saw it like that. No, but he said it was ice cream. Too misleading.
It's the first place I saw it and they're
sweet enough to let me in here. Like, yeah,
that's awesome. What are the toppings
like in a Croatian ice cream store?
They're like, you can have gummy bears,
fish eye.
No!
They're fruits.
They're fruits. they're really delicious actually
local Croatian fruit
they look delicious
well here's what we're going to do TJ
I'm going to ask Jim some questions about BMX
and we'll see what he knows
and then at the end of that
you're going to
yeah
look I know
nothing and I know everything simultaneously.
Well, look, we're not going to make the question period too long.
We'll get into talking with TJ quicker.
And TJ's got some cool stories he can tell us and stuff like that too.
So at the end of it, just you rate him on what his knowledge is.
Zero through 10.
10's the best.
Kelly's going to grade him on confidence.
I'm going to grade him on et cetera.
21 through 30, BMX.
11 through 20, DMX, RIP.
Zero through 10, XXX.
And not, no, but not porn.
It's like the Vin Diesel, you know, his extreme movie.
Triple X.
Yeah, triple X.
Thank you.
There you go.
Okay.
Well, don't ask me the question, what does BMX stand for?
That's the first question.
I thought it might be.
What's the first question?
What does BMX stand for?'s the first question i thought it might be what does bmx stand for bike maximum extreme you're doing great uh when when did it start like where
like what happened what's all what's all that what what's the origins like how did it come about
these have these penny farthings which is just one big wheel and a little tiny wheel.
It was rode by people in fucking top hats, right?
And they'd get a bit of a push with one leg and then they'd get up
and they'd be sitting really high and no one thought,
there's no better way to do this.
You can only rotate a wheel on its axis and the thing.
And then someone went, a chain.
And they went, what?
A chain chain?
Like a chain that you chain people up with?
No, no, a bike chain.
What's a bike chain?
Well, it hasn't been invented yet.
And they made a cog and then they made a thing
and then they made regular bikes.
And then from regular bikes,
they made those stupid ones with the bendy down handles
that you have once when you're a kid
that no one uses anymore.
And then BMX bikes, they were your first ones that you could-
What were they influenced by largely?
Drugs.
first ones that you like what were they influenced by largely drugs it's it's it's like a mountain bike that can do stunts basically you know like a mountain bike
can go down mountains and have a little bit of suspension but like like a bmx bikes for the most
part i believe never has gears um you'll have things that you can do tricks on them like you'll
have pegs on the wheels and stuff like that
and different things.
Are they in the Olympics?
No, they're not.
Oh, they are in the Olympics.
Sorry, I apologize.
They are in the Olympics.
I remember in the Sydney Olympics.
Not stunt, a lot like jumping or anything like that,
but the races are.
They have those tracks.
I loved watching that in the Olympics
when they all jump over each other.
One person has a stack.
Yeah, they're in the Olympics.
All right.
Yeah.
Can you name any brands of like motocross bikes?
BMX bikes?
Not like the moto.
Oh, Yamaha.
You know how I feel about Yamaha.
Yamaha, that's the most bizarre company that's ever existed.
Everything they make is great, but they have board meetings that go like this.
Okay.
So what do you got for me?
An outboard motor for a boat.
All right, we'll put that in our inventory.
What are you making?
Violins.
Okay, so we've got outboard motors, we've got violins.
All right, what else should we make?
Another boat.
Amplifiers.
Okay, amplifiers, outboard motors, violins.
What other products should we make?
Motorcycles. All right, so we've got motorcycles, outboard motors, violins. What other products should we make? Motorcycles.
All right, so we've got motorcycles, outboard motors, violins,
and then one bloke goes, cellos.
Okay, well, that's a big violin, but we'll put it in the list.
Put it in.
So we've got big violins, little violins, outboard motors.
What else do they make?
Keyboards.
Keyboards.
We make pianos.
Musical instruments and motors.
We make pianos, Musical instruments and motors.
Just hear where it's going.
We make pianos, and we probably make some small plane parts that you've never heard of.
We're Yamaha.
Don't try to label us.
There are five different types of BMX bikes.
Can you name one?
I can name five different brands.
I remember from my childhood, the brands.
What is this hint, Kelly?
I'll say freestyle. It's based on the terrain, it seems like. Yeah, I'll say
freestyle. I'll say
racing.
I will say dirt
because he's the king of dirt.
And I will say
pavement and grassy knoll.
Grassy knoll again.
That's the one that Lee Harvey has.
What is different about BMX bikes that enables them to jump and spin
and, you know, the tricks they do?
Well, I believe that, okay, they can spin and stuff
because they don't have the wires or the hand brakes hanging off
so they can have a full access.
How do they have brakes then?
Well, you can just push backwards on some of them.
Some of them just have a single hand brake.
How does the wire go?
I don't know, but I'm just saying that's for the freestyle ones
where you're spinning around.
They don't have the wire.
Maybe the dirt track ones have the handbrakes as well.
They also have the things like the pegs.
They're also lightweight.
The seat's normally a bit lower so that you stand up in the saddle
for the most part.
You very rarely see anyone racing in their seating in the BMX at the back.
They sit down.
It would hurt your nuts.
Yeah, yeah.
And also, unlike bikes of the past,
they don't have a basket in the front to carry your groceries.
Can you name two professional BMXers, not TJ?
Oh, that's easy.
Nicole Kidman in the movie BMX Bandits
is that a movie?
you've never heard
of BMX Bandits?
no no no
alright everyone
everyone
we've got a whole
new podcast
BMX Bandits
is an Australian
classic
I believe it may be
if one of the
first five films
of Nicole Kidman's
career
at that stage
she had a mop
of curly hair that was like a huge afro
of curly hair, and they would put the helmet on,
and they'd obviously just put a woman in a wig,
and then just the curly hair would stick out.
And so what happens is there was a problem with some local gangsters
that were importing some walkie-talkies from Asia or something
at a very, you know, there was a legal walkie talkie rink happening and her and her two friends,
Mongoose and Mongoose and something else, right?
Mongoose is the name of one of the bikes and they all decided to infiltrate
with their BMXs.
And so there's a lot of them riding through shopping malls in Australia and
skidding past people and the crooks go, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And falling into fountains.
Then there's a scene that was the Manly Waterworks.
We're going to have to cut you off soon.
You can't do the whole movie.
Let's wrap it up.
The Manly Waterworks was this water park in Australia
that had three slides, right?
They all came out different to each other.
And so the criminals chase after Nicole Kidman.
They're riding their bikes through the neighborhood.
And then, like, the only getaway thing
is for the three of them
to get on the water slide
and go down
with their bikes.
Yeah, of course.
Right, right?
So they go down
and then like
of course
the gangster who's following them
he gets to the slide
and goes
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
But at the end
with the radios.
Ah, they save them
walkie-talkies.
Oh, that's great.
I don't have to watch it anymore.
And there's like some eggs
being thrown
and some flower bombs.
This does not count
for his score.
TJ, tell me you've seen BMX.
It does count.
Yeah, yeah.
Tell me you've seen
BMX Bandits.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, of course.
What about Curb Dogs?
Have you ever seen Curb Dogs?
It's an old video.
I have not seen Curb Dogs.
It's really old.
It's really old.
A million times. Oh, yeah, Rad. Yeah, yeah, but it's no BMX Band Dogs. It's really old. It's really old. A million times.
Oh, yeah, rad.
Yeah, yeah, but it's no BMX band.
It's old rad.
Okay, last question, Jim.
Who was named the King of Dirt in 1995?
TJ.
Okay, you're paying attention.
All right, good.
I can give you, Haro's a big brand.
Mongoose is a big brand.
And others.
Okay.
I love others.
TJ, zero through 10. 10 is the best. How'd Jim do?
I gotta
say Jim is a solid 7.
Wow. That's pretty good, Jim.
He's a solid 7. I mean, the dude
knows a lot. He does know a lot.
More than an average bear. There's no doubt about it.
Yeah, but I think a lot of that score
was based on BMX Bandits
retelling the plot, right?
You know what else is crazy is that there's so many hidden talents in Australia.
They completely infiltrated the X Games and the whole BMX market was just completely taken over by the Aussies.
So like Corey Bowen came over and smashed everyone.
Cam White came over and smashed everyone. Cam White came over and killed everyone.
Ryan Guttler and Luke Parslow.
There's been like a hundred badass BMXers come from Australia now.
And they're all like the top pros.
Now you see like Jay Toohey is another guy who's in the Olympics.
Like they're going to be like they're freestylers because Olympics is in the,
in the, I mean,estyles in the Olympics now.
These guys are all cut and sick like nothing.
You're giving Jim points based on these other people's accomplishments.
They're Australians.
How do you get points by proxy?
I believe that Australia has more of a BMX, a bike riding culture for kids.
I'm only really judging this in LA.
When you're living in Sydney, you see packs of kids riding around on bikes together, like 11-year-olds,
12-year-olds, just riding around with that.
And I never see that in LA.
And I don't know if I'd let my son, because I feel like the roads are too busy and it
would just be a little bit of a mess.
But in Australia, I used to just duck off my bike when I was like 10 and come back in
the afternoon.
I'm not saying, oh, it was different back then.
I think kids in Australia can still do that.
Well, suburban life in LA is very different than suburban life anywhere else.
It still feels city-ish because there's a lot of traffic.
And also you can be in a nice neighborhood in Sydney where it's good to ride
and then it's like a skid row, but it's just around the corner.
And that's where you learn to ride fast.
With all the tents.
How do you do it, Kyle?
How many bike rides did you have down King's Cross?
I never rode that far.
I was only within the suburb I grew up in,
and there was a street that I wasn't allowed to go past,
and it was sort of like a circular few miles that I was stuck inside.
How did he know confidence, Kelly?
Well, it didn't sound like he was going to know anything.
He talked himself down initially,
but you were pretty confident going through that.
I'll give you a six.
I said I knew everything and I knew nothing.
Six plus seven is 13.
I'm going to give you one, so you get 14 DMX RIP
because it can't be said enough.
TJ, what does BMX stand for?
Jim said bike maximum extreme.
No, it stands for bicycle motocross.
There you go. Yeah, but cross is with a
C. It's DMC. No, but it's a cross.
You're right. I know, but
DMC, oh, that was already
taken by the DeLorean Motor Company.
Extreme starts with an E, so
there's that.
Yeah, but not if you, the way I write it,
I go extreme.
Yeah, right, right, right.
A Taco Bell, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When did it start?
Like where,
what was it influenced by?
He said that he just gave us
the history of bikes.
He was like big wheel
and the chain.
Tiny wheel and top hat.
Yeah, yeah.
He didn't drop any knowledge
on the BMX
where it started.
Well, it all starts from there.
Okay, first of all,
everything starts with Jesus.
All right, there. Okay. First of all, everything starts with Jesus.
All right.
TJ.
Yeah.
I knew you were funny, but damn, I didn't know you were going to go hard.
Just wait 10 minutes.
I'll tell you the same joke again.
Yeah, please, please.
Thank you.
All right.
Like, how did it come about?
Like, how did it start, like BMX?
Well, they were having flat tracks and dirt trails and dirt tracks and stuff like this. And they were just doing flat ground starts with a rubber band as the starting gate.
And they would just go.
And it was like in the early 70s.
go and it was like in the early 70s and and they would like just trying to ride bmx bikes through wherever like on dirt trails and making the track and racing each other who was fastest in the
neighborhood and that was kind of how it started and then it just blew up more and more and more
and then all of a sudden dirt jumping started because of there's freestyle like there was there
was a jump on the track that somebody was doing tricks on,
and it would be like Fuzzy Hall or Todd Lyons would do 360s in their motos.
So they were racing BMX, but then they were doing tricks during their motos.
So everyone loved them the most.
And then they said, let's make a contest out of it.
You need to explain who these people are.
You can't just go, it was like Fuzzy and Hall.
And expect our audience
to go,
ah, Fuzzy and Hall.
You know Fuzzy.
Come on.
Oh, I saw them in concert.
That's right.
You just lost the point.
Well, I mean, so.
I'm just joking.
I'm just joking.
I still love you.
I don't need the points.
So, but to go from where nobody was watching it to where it got on television and
people are watching Olympics,
obviously the movies would help too,
but is it like credited to like something like the X games or like stuff
that thing competitions and things that you were in,
like what was kind of catapulting it,
you know?
Yeah,
that was,
I mean,
it was so insane because like in 1995,
the X games was invented,
right? It was, it came out by a guy named ron simio he was the guy that was in charge of it and and i happened to win my first
pro contest that year you know it was crazy because then every year after that i was in x
games and all the stuff for 10 years just doing these crazy big contests and and we were like like underground underground
dudes that that all the kids and the high school kids were were down with you know it was crazy
it was really cool like to be part of something like that at such an early stage i used to love
watching the x games it was a good thing to watch on tv before you had a gig or something like that
it was always on like espn or whatever channel it was on.
With the X Games, I heard a rumor that, okay, so they put snowboarding,
went from the Winter X Games into the Olympics.
Now you've got BMX into the Olympics.
I heard that the skateboarders never wanted to come over to the Olympics because of drug testing.
Would that be fairly accurate?
Or like the X Games didn't test you for drugs.
You guys were all fucked up, right?
Well, actually, I never did a drug in my life,
and I don't even drink alcohol.
I never even drank alcohol, only once.
But I was the very, very one exception.
Stick to that story, man.
Stick to that story.
Thanks, man.
The only one exception.
It's solid.
It works every time.
No, I...
Thank God he never took drugs.
You don't have to have drugs.
My only vice
is frozen yogurt.
Now it is.
But anyway, so you were
saying that you didn't take drugs, but the others?
But 99.9%
yeah, dude. It was
awesome.
They were motley crew for sure like it was the best it was the best of the best it was awesome and i don't know about the drug testing thing
for the olympics situation because i see a lot of the olympic athletes and i'm like
i don't know i don't think so i don't think so. I don't think that's possible. Yeah.
He's talking about all the other things. But the drugs that they do, Jim, they're like doing like weed.
So they could just be like smoking weed and then quit that for a week,
take the test, and call it a day, you know?
Yeah.
I'm a big fan of weed.
Also, I know this about weed.
It's not performance enhancing.
No, not at all.
Except for on Call of Duty. I seem to be fucking zen when I'm on weed. wheat also it i know this about wheat it's not performance enhancing no not at all except for
on call of duty i seem to be fucking zen when i'm on weird it's like it's like i crush on call of
duty when i'm stoned in the zone there you go you have no pressure sober like sober when i play like
call of duty i come around the door with my gun like this is there anyone more on the door and like on weed i'm like i fucking go in and shoot i'm very good at golf high but not very good sober no i'm not good at
anything else except for call of duty so so also do they do they test in in the games for like
steroids is is steroid use no no no they don't care about that. No. Maybe in racing.
Like, Connor Fields won the gold medal for racing BMX.
It was the first ever Olympics for BMX, and he won, and he's from Vegas.
So it was a very big deal for us.
Like, we loved the guy.
And they tested all of them for everything because in racing,
it would really enhance, you know, your speed and power and all that stuff.
But in freestyle and dirt jumping and stuff, if you did steroids,
it would be so stupid if you were this big buff guy trying to like –
Yeah, yeah.
You'd want to keep your weight down.
I'll tell you how to win the races.
What you do is you get massive tires, really big ones, real big.
You keep the same body frame. You make the arms longer on the thing right
here and then you just push a couple of pedals i always thought that about oscar bestorius as well
if he made his flippers really big so he only had to do like four steps that's the way to win
okay write that down pj um so that when it's called motocross it's in the name so it came
from motocross like the dirt bikes and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like in the early motocross days, they weren't like they are now today.
But it was just like same thing.
Like, you know, super flat tracks, you know, with little jumps here and there.
But nothing, nothing like today.
And BMX was like kids like me who were broke and grew up poor
and we couldn't afford a motorcycle.
So we just rode BMX bikes saying that, you know, this is our motorcycle.
We put the clip on with the card and that was our motorcycle.
You know, it was cool.
Do you ever get Spokie dokes?
No.
Spokie dokes?
What's that?
Spokie dokes.
Spokie dokes are these little plastic things that clip onto the spokes, right?
And so they slide up and down.
So when you ride, your wheel goes, because the Spokie dokes go in and out.
What's their function?
Just the noise?
It makes it look cool.
Sounds sick as fuck, dude.
I think it's Australian.
If you're a friend of the show
send us a spokey dog um we jim said it is recognize the olympic level you confirmed
that right like when did that start do you know what year or is it still in the olympics now or
is it last olympics i was london when i i'll tell you what i did remember because i i really
liked watching them because they look so great as like 20 bikes or jumpers once.
I thought a lot of the girls were pretty foxy.
It seems to attract some fairly good sorts.
It was always like this really hot Swedish girls just putting on a bike
and being like, I am going to ride so fast.
Yeah, there's only eight of them in that race.
It seems like 20 because they're on the coast orders, but there's only eight of them in that race and it seems like 20 because they're on the coast orders but there's only eight of them so but it is so fast and it's so dangerous and
i mean it's very impressive things they do do you do the races or are you just a freestyle
guy do you race as well i raced yeah i raced for a long time but i was so like
doing freestyle stuff i didn't really love racing i didn't like training and and that
like you have to work out crazy stuff like that and i'm like no i'm good
you gotta eat right like i like pizza you know what i mean the nice cream like i don't want to
deal with all that i just want to like i just want to have fun on my bike you know so there's last jim different types of bmx bikes
and he was saying freestyle racing dirt pavement and grassy knoll so there's are there's different
types of bikes for the different types of competitions like the racing or it's yeah
yeah for sure um i just thought you were talking about brands and then you started barking those
off too so i was like baby this guy knows what he's talking about.
Yeah.
I was actually impressed by this part.
When like freestyle bike is,
is like a flatland.
I assume he's talking about like flatland freestyle,
like whatever.
And then dirt jumping is whatever racing is,
whatever.
They're all different bikes.
So he knew what he's talking about.
And then there's ramps,
park,
freestyle,
um,
they're jumping birds with one so
it's like this like a big hot bike so you just ride that thing that's a bird bike a ramp um a
bird bike and then uh then there's a street which are the ones with the four pegs and you want to
go out and ride the handrails and things like that i used to get i used to get a bmx magazine
and i didn't i rode a bike but it's like you know when you're a kid in things like that. I used to get a BMX magazine and I rode a bike,
but it's like, you know, when you're a kid in the 90s
and you used to get those magazines that just,
because the internet wasn't around, where you just went, oh.
And there was like guys riding bikes on full pipes and half pipes.
And I remember they used to have an edition that came out once a year
in this BMX band.
It's where they had those old school 3D glasses with the blue cellophane
and the red cellophane where you could look at those old school 3D glasses with the blue cellophane and the
red cellophane where you could look at guys riding in 3D.
That was a big day.
That's cool.
Big day.
I remember a friend coming over.
So we'd just look at the pictures and go, this is fucking boss.
This is like.
Yeah.
I was just talking about the other day because I used to skateboard a lot.
I had a BMX bike too.
I had a Haro when you mentioned Haro.
Haro.
But I used to skateboard a lot. And had a BMX bike too. I had a Haro when you mentioned Haro. All right. But I used to skateboard a lot
and there's a skate park near my house now
and I go over there and I look at the kids
and I'm just like, they're doing,
their level of tricks and things that they're doing,
we couldn't even fathom when I was younger.
But we had magazines.
We didn't have the internet, like you said.
So remember in the magazines,
it'd be like, do you want to do an Ollie?
And then it would just have like a drawing
of the step-by-steps, how to do an Ollie. And you'd be like, all right, I guess we'll go try and duplicate that. And you couldn to do an Ollie? And then it would just have a, like a drawing of, of the step-by-steps,
how to do an Ollie and be like,
all right,
I guess we'll go try and duplicate that.
And you couldn't do it.
And then now it's like,
I think what kids have YouTube and they just go pause,
pause,
pause.
They look at feet and they just go out there.
Do you think that's like,
do you find that TJ?
Like just the,
the stuff that.
The advancement is much quicker.
It's like,
there's one,
there's one place that is responsible for the level of riding,
how it's elevated a million times since,
since then is Woodward.
So Woodward is a training camp where everybody goes to freestyle,
like training camp,
essentially like BMX,
moto,
uh,
skateboarding.
Even now they have scooters and stuff on there like they're just doing all
kinds of everything that's freestyle they're doing it they're down with it and there's big foam pits
and there's resi mats and like things like they're very safe to learn all the craziest things that
you've ever seen now like everything that i invented or learned or whatever is is like
their starting point.
You know,
now they're just like going even harder and crazier and wilder.
So if I had a 360 tail whip in my repertoire,
they do 360 double tail whip or a 720 double tail whip or what,
you know,
they just add numbers to it.
And you're like,
dude,
that is insane.
Right.
So,
so like probably the people that you're inspired by were just like this.
Look one foot off the pedal.
Yeah, exactly.
Turn in the air.
Turn in the air.
Yeah, exactly right.
Wait, what?
I know what a foam pit is.
They jump into a foam pit.
What's a resi mat?
How does that help you?
You said resi mat?
It's like there's a quarter inch plastic laid onto a crash pad so that it gives four to six inches when you land on it and and
it's harder to break bones it's very slippery as well so when you fall out of the sky you land on
it slide and then it like gives the four to six inches so you're good and then you slide out it's
no big deal a quick question when you're at the x games and you have skateboarders and bmx people
and whatever other events there are.
Do you all stick to your groups?
And do you think like skateboarders are dickheads and are they not like the
bike people? Is it segregated?
Not at all.
Oh, that's a shame.
No, it's not at all. No, everybody's cool.
Like there used to be a little animosity between a couple of the motocross
guys and a couple of the BMX dudes, but all that stuff's washed.
Everybody's cool now. Everybody's down with everybody.
But when we first came up, it was a little bit of animosity.
But then, like, me and Cary Hart, like, he's a motocross guy, Cary Hart.
He and I were roommates.
Like, we were down with each other.
You know, everybody was cool.
Everybody's fun.
I once met Tony Hawk, and I was – I'd just come back from being on the road
in England or something like that
and I had to get to this gig
in Vegas
and it was one of these
it was called the Oddball Show
and it was like me
and Dave Chappelle
and the Fly of the Conchords
it was the MGM Arena
in Vegas
and I'd been traveling
can you please explain those guys
I don't know who you're talking about
you know
Fuzzy and Chapel.
Anyway, so I was doing this gig and then I had just come off the road
in England and I was literally like, I just got off the flight,
I went on stage, I did my thing, and then I was closing out,
I think, the first half or maybe I was just on before the Concords.
Yeah, I was just on before the Concords and they were closing
out the first half.
And I went to my dressing room and there was a bottle of vodka
and I drank half of it very fucking quickly.
And my dressing room was literally a dressing room.
It was a locker room for whatever hockey team or a boxer would be in before a fight.
You know what I mean?
So I'm sitting in my locker and I'm fucking hammered, hammered all by myself.
I was just like, and I did it because I didn't think
I'd get this gig done.
I was like, and done.
Get fucked up, right?
So I'm sitting there and then Tony Hawk walks in
and allegedly he had a friend who was a fan of mine
and he wanted to meet me and they went, hey, Jim.
And I was like, what?
And I thought I was getting drunk by myself out of the public eye, right?
And they went, Tony Hawk wants to meet you.
I went, break it down.
Like that, right?
So Tony Hawk comes in and I went from being like I killed the gig.
I went from hero to zero in minutes.
I think he was with his wife and he sort of looked at me like,
are you okay?
And I'm like, I'm good, man.
I've been watching you escape for years.
And then like I thought the conversation was dying out.
And I remember watching his MTV Cribs episode.
They went to his son's room and his son had a South Park pinball machine.
And I just bought my first pinball machine.
And I went, I just bought a pinball machine.
And I go, I know you have a South Park right in your house.
And he just went,
it's nice to meet you, Jim.
And he left.
And oh God,
even now when I think about it,
I go,
I'm trying to keep it to myself.
I'll tell him next time I see him,
I'll tell him. Tell him see him. I'll tell him.
Tell him I don't drink anymore and I still have the pinball machine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We can get him on the show.
Oh God.
He's a really good dude.
He was so sweet.
He was so,
he should have.
He's an awesome guy.
Yeah.
But,
oh man.
Well,
speaking of, uh, uh, names and stuff like that, I awesome guy. Yeah, but, oh man. Well, speaking of names
and stuff like that,
I asked you to name
two professional BMXers.
TJ doesn't count,
you said Nicole King.
So who are like,
all right,
just to clarify,
TJ,
just to clarify here,
BMX Bandits
was a huge movie,
correct?
It was a big movie.
Huge.
Huge.
No,
okay.
In the 80s.
I remember Rad.
I remember Rad, yeah.
I remember once like when Tom Cruise,
and he's still married to Nicole Kidman,
he came out to Australia and he's like,
I love my wife, man, you know, like jumping on couches.
Woo!
Right?
Tom Cruise-y.
And then he was like, and then he said something like this.
He went, and he went, and how cute was she in BMX Bandits?
Am I right, Australia?
Woo!
Like that, right?
And everyone's like, she's fucking 14, mate.
Settle down, Tom.
So who are like some of the top BMXers right now?
And then like, who are some of the most famous of all time?
Not including yourself.
Fuzzy and Wallach
yeah Fuzzy Hall and Todd
Lyons are some of the most famous of all
time and then
and then you have
right now you have Ryan
Guttler the Australian kid that I
was telling you about this insane
so good Dennis Anderson is a
kid from San Diego who just
completely kills Chadad curly does the
street he's an amazing amazing rider there's there's there's so many of them now that it's
a whole different level of of talent because the pool is so thick and then now they have instagram
and stuff like that so everybody sees everybody's stuff and they just go out and they can do
everything you know and there's uh pat casey's another kid who has a dream backyard like the craziest stuff
you've ever seen in your life he does it every day just for fun and you're like man this is awesome
everyone has cool guy names fuzzy and someone curly and stuff like this no one's ever like
larry Liebenstein.
I'm sure he represents me.
I probably am.
You might have a stage name.
Yeah.
And so you mentioned like San Diego and Australia.
So I feel like it's like a real California thing. Like I always felt like all these kind of sports like originated in California
or became popular? Would you say the
first BMX video game
was the California Games
and it was one of the events where you had to pedal
so you had skateboarding halfpipe, you had the
hacky sack game, you had the surfing game
then you had the BMX one where you had to jump
and spin and jump and land on the things. That would
be the first BMX game for the Sega Mega Drive.
Probably.
There was the Santa Cruz one on Nintendo where you were like the monkey
and you surfed and you skateboarded.
Yeah, we had summer games in the old Santa Cruz.
That was Nintendo versus Sega.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, because I remember that one.
Like you had to surf and skate and all that stuff.
And then I think, was it Bucky?
LASIK.
LASIK.
LASIK, yeah.
He had a video game too.
I remember playing that one. All of those Olympic games, I loved them, but they were allik. Yeah. He had a video game too. I remember playing that.
All of those Olympic games.
I loved them,
but they're all this.
Yeah.
You're scaring the dog.
Oh,
sorry.
I was set the dog,
but that's all.
Oh,
my Olympic gold medals.
Um,
your video game.
It's,
uh,
it's what goes on in your video game then.
It's, You know what?
I wish I could tell you.
I don't play video games.
I never even had a Nintendo.
Growing up, that's how I got good on bikes.
He was out riding bikes and smashing pussy, man.
He didn't have video games.
I can tell you what's in his video game.
I was little, man.
It's like Grand Theft Auto, but with bikes.
It was just go out in the morning, like you said.
Like exactly what you said, Jim.
Like I would go out in the morning, ride all day, just be gone,
and then come home in the night.
When the streetlights came on, I came home and that was it.
That was the thing.
My mother said you had to be home before the streetlights came on.
And I remember the streetlights. it. That was the thing. My mother said you had to be home before the streetlights came on. And I remember
the streetlights, I'd be on my bike, the
streetlights used to turn on in my suburb in blocks.
It wasn't like the whole neighborhood just went
vroom. It was literally a street where they went
donk. You're like racing.
And it was like 150 meters
at a time of streetlights.
And then I'd be in the next bit.
And be like, damn it,
I don't want to sleep.
And then my mum would go,
the streetlights are on.
I go,
they weren't when I got home.
You know what's cool
is that you didn't have
cell phones back then
so it was way cooler.
They couldn't just call you
and be like,
get home.
It was like,
either you were in trouble or not.
It was a wonderful time.
Kids did go missing.
About a small price to pay for freedom.
Um,
how many bones have you broken on you?
On you?
I don't know.
I'm like lots.
I have metal in three of my four limbs.
So, uh,
it's very tough sport on the body for sure.
And,
and like, I have like my wrist right here has two plates and 10 screws,
a couple of screws in this one.
I have a rod, a plate and 10 screws in my left leg.
And then my right leg's sweet.
And that's it.
And you were in a medically induced coma at one point, right?
After a crash?
Yeah, I had a head injury, brain bleed.
I had several broken, like my wrists were broken six times,
so three and three.
And it just happens.
It's very, very often you break stuff.
And collarbones, shoulders, arms, ulnar radius every day.
It sucks, dude.
Are you mates with the Jackass guys?
I know they all came from that sort of community. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know It sucks, dude. Are you mates with the Jackass guys? I know they all came
from that sort of community.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know those dudes, yeah.
I'm not friends with them,
but I know them.
They're cool.
I mean, I'm not friends with them.
I just don't like
hang out with them or nothing.
I don't really know them,
but I know who they are.
We know each other
kind of in passing and hello.
I've seen a lot of them
at Woodward and stuff like that met them and stuff
but but we never uh we never like been connected lately but those guys are pretty damn badass
they do some pretty gnarly shit i know steve i reasonably well and i did our old podcast yeah
yeah steve is great guy and steve i saw him the other day at a gig and he's like we just filmed I went to the place and he goes dude
dude
we just filmed
the new Jackass 40
he goes
took a lot longer
because
we're you know
in our late 40s
and
takes a while
to heal
you sound just like him
that's great
do you mind?
I just wanted to find out, the medically
induced coma, was that an accident?
Was that an accident? Do you mind talking about it?
Or is it not something, like, what happened?
No, no, it's all good, dude.
I told it, you know, so it's whatever.
He's just going to what other people have told him.
Yeah, yeah.
It doesn't matter anyway. I don't remember.
No, I do remember it like it was yesterday, but like I crashed.
It was yesterday.
When you're a BMXer, like, you know how to crash. You really do. Like, honest to God, you know how to crash everything. Like almost everything you can, you can get out of with the minimal injury but some things just happen and and that time i i
crashed real bad but i put out my wrist and that broke my wrist and when i went through my wrist i
smashed my face on the ground and it broke my orbital and and brain bleed so then i was out
for two weeks and uh and when woke up, it was a mess.
Like I didn't even know what to do.
I was pissed in the hallway and all kinds of weird stuff.
So it was like a very bad look.
Yeah, it's nice to have a break, isn't it?
Yeah.
It was the only time I ever had a break.
I'll tell you my biggest bike accident. There's nothing.
I was fine.
But me and my brother Scott, we'd get up to the car park
at the soccer field up the road from us, and we'd take our bikes up there.
And my brother, he's a fucking determined fucker.
He's just – anyway.
So we decided we'd play chicken with each other, all right,
and so we ride at full pace heading towards each other.
And then always, because I didn't want to injure myself very badly,
I would always turn at the very last second and he would just be determined
and ride all the way through.
And then he would start mocking me going, you'll never beat me.
You can't beat me.
I'm too good.
Like that.
So I got on my bike for that.
We did it about four or five times.
And the last time I went, I don't care how much I get hurt.
I'm going to beat him.
And we just
rode into each other at full pace if you watch it you'd go those children are psychopaths
and it's you mentioned you broke radius and oh no I broke my left radius mountain biking where like I
had mud in the tires I got back in the street and it slid and I got my arm stuck between the frame
and the ground and that was like
one of the most traumatic things that ever happened
to me the recovery and just the fact that you're like
yeah I broke my radius my own
that was just one bone that I broke from biking
it took forever to recover so it's just amazing
that you guys like get back on bikes and
keep going. Both of them six
times. Six times total.
So you have like plates in there, right?
You just have like plates and pins.
Plates and pins everywhere.
It sucks.
That's one thing you can say for the old mobile phones
because I remember falling off my bike and sliding
and the side of my leg was all torn up
and my ankle was a bit twisted and swollen
and I had to ride back with just one leg on a pedal like this
and the other leg just dripping blood.
So I got home.
Yeah, I was riding my bike one time when we lived in Canada just by myself
and I tried to pop a wheelie over a sewer, but the chain locked
and so it stopped and I flipped over the bike and landed on my face
on the ground and just started screaming.
And luckily my brother was outside skateboarding,
so he came and rescued me.
There was always a cunt on my street who could do the perfect wheelie
and just hold him forever, just like he was on a unicycle,
and he's just riding like that, and you just see him swishing by
and he'd look at you like, and you're like that,
and I could pop it up for a second and make the other one.
Or that cunt who just doesn't use their hands while they ride
and just leaves it down by their side.
I could do that.
I could do that for a small distance, but that bloke who does it forever,
like, oh, this is so much more relaxing.
No, it's not.
You can't fucking – balance with your hands, dickhead.
Stop it.
We used to set up ramps.
Like we used to have whatever plywood we'd have and like some cinder blocks,
whatever, and my friend had just gotten a brand-new bike.
I think it was a Haro 2, and he set up the ramp, but't do it he was like milk crates he put under and he put it not centered
you know so i i was on his bike he jumped he did some tricks then he like readjusted and then i
got it and i went full blast hit the ramp and because it wasn't centered the wood just went
sideways and i just went sideways skidding along the whole road and he came running up and I thought he was coming to help me. And he goes, my pedals.
I was just skinned on one side.
I was like, thanks, Charlie.
Oh, I, I, I was a terrible skateboarder, but I used to have this small street,
Phillip street in St.
Ives.
Right.
And it was, it was a little street that had a nice little hill and it used the
asphalt used to be that crackly asphalt.
Right.
And I used to ride down there and that crackly asphalt made it go a speed
that I could handle going down there.
Anyway, it was the hill that I ran on.
One time I'd go to get on the hill and they'd re-tarmac it
with that smooth asphalt.
Oh, I was going fast, faster than I'd ever gone.
And I was there going, oh, fuck.
And then the board starts doing the death wobbly thing
and then you're like, I've got to run.
You jump off and run, but you're moving faster than you can run.
So you do the first few steps.
I've got this.
I've got this.
And then your body's moving faster than your legs.
And then bang, he's out of the ice cream store now.
TJ's on the move.
Yeah, yeah.
And now he's just out.
He's in Croatia.
He's walked into a pierogi store, ladies and gentlemen.
Did they kick you out
of the frozen yogurt?
Yeah, the lady
at the frozen yogurt shop
is like,
that guy says cunt a lot.
Can you leave?
She didn't say that.
They're actually closing
because it's 10 o'clock here.
So she's like,
we're closed.
We got to go.
And I was like,
of course you do.
No problem. She said fro like, of course you do. No problem.
She said, fro-go.
Fro-go.
In Croatia, is it popular BMXing?
Are you there for that?
Or is that like, it's just everywhere?
No, I'm here for the show.
Oh, okay.
The show.
We don't want you to hang out on the street.
What's the show?
The Challenge.
Oh, The Challenge.
One of my favorite shows. We don't want you to have to hang out on the street. What's the show? The Challenge. One of my favorite shows.
We don't want you to have to hang out on the street here.
I think it's a good look.
There's a backpacker.
Hello, mate.
Do you want to be on the podcast?
We've never had a guest out on the street
like this.
I was like,
just do it, dude.
Whatever.
It's like a walking mall.
It's not a street. You know, no cars are going to hit
you. There's traffic going by.
We're getting a tour of Croatia.
Look at those ladies behind you.
Look at that.
Let's go talk to some women.
Big celebrity from Australia,
Jim Jefferies.
If you're listening, TJ's walking through the streets.
I don't even know what city you're in, Croatia.
I don't know any city in Croatia.
What's the city? What's the city?
Beautiful city.
No, we're going to lose you now.
No Wi-Fi in the streets of Croatia.
You got your Wi-Fi from the frozen yogurt place.
You even said that.
You can't go too far away from the frozen yogurt.
He's frozen.
Oh, wait.
Okay.
You know what, TJ? Let's just ask you one more question. I have to go back to the frozen yogurt. He's frozen. Oh, wait. Okay. You know what, TJ?
Let's just ask you
one more question.
Go back to the frozen yogurt.
TJ, we'll ask you.
We'll do the one last thing.
We have this thing
called Dinner Party Facts
where we ask our guests
to just give us
some interesting facts
or something obscure,
interesting that they can talk to
about people with BMX with us.
You can do a story,
something interesting,
like some interesting anecdote or a story or anything from the world of BMX.
And we'll close it out with that.
Okay.
What,
what,
what kind of story do you want me to give you?
Something that's within the range of the frozen yogurt place.
Just what's a fun fact about BMX that people wouldn't know?
Fun fact about, oh, all the bike riders on the deck are friends.
Are what?
Are what?
Are friends.
Are one of them.
Everybody is friends in BMX.
Everybody's cool.
No.
We're all friends.
There's no enemies. There's no rivals. Nothing. Well, I don't know aboutX. Everybody's cool. We're all friends. There's no enemies.
There's no rivals, nothing.
Well, I don't know about that.
Everybody's cool.
There's always a cunt in every walk of life, mate.
Nope, no cunts.
Everybody's cool.
I'm going to tell you a fact about stand-up comedy.
We all get along.
Most of us do.
But we all agree on who the cunts are. Yes, yes, yes. We hate stand-up comedians. along. Most of us do.
But we all agree on who the cunts are.
We hate stand-up comedians.
Unified in that.
All right, TJ,
look, I know it's getting late
there and you're walking the streets,
but watch the show on MTV.
I just lost
the name of it. Challenge.
I'm sorry. And also play his video game that he knows nothing about MTV sports,
TJ Lavin's ultimate BMX.
What you do is you go to the yogurt store,
your picky yogurt,
your picky topping.
Anything else you want to say as a closing thought,
TJ?
Jim,
I just want to say,
I've been wanting to meet you for years.
I'm honored to be on here
thank you so much
for having me
and I really
appreciate you guys
for real
I'm serious like
this is pretty mad
like just coming out here
walking around Robey
and just doing this shit
but I appreciate it
oh mate
I'd like to meet you too
so let's hang out
at a gig sometime
so we'll give you
my contact details
and if you ever
want to reach out and come to a gig,
just hit me up, mate.
Hey, thank you guys so much.
I really appreciate it.
Thanks, TJ.
Thank you so much, TJ.
Bye.
That was TJ.
Now, if you're ever in a bar and someone comes up to you and says,
you know Wi-Fi is all across Croatia?
Go, well, I don't know about that, and walk away.
Good night, Australia.