I Don't Know About That - BMX with TJ Lavin

Episode Date: June 29, 2021

In this episode, the team discusses BMX with professional BMX rider and longtime host of MTV's "The Challenge", TJ Lavin. Follow TJ on Instagram and Twitter @TJLavin Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tick...ets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:05 is one of my best mates he does a good joke about it he goes in China they have over 250 letters can you believe that
Starting point is 00:03:12 I can't even imagine how many numbers they would have anyway so the Moist Tour the Moist Tour is going gangbusters selling lots of tickets.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I'm actually surprised about the – thank you to the – I don't know about that podcast listeners who have bought tickets. I appreciate it. There's still some tickets. The dates go to jimjeffries.com. But tickets for some of the venues are almost sold out. But for many of them, you can still get some fairly good seats. And so I'd like to see you when I'm on tour. We've got a great show worked out for you.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Forrest is going to come with me. Jason John Whitehead. Lisa Curry is going to come this time. Justin Martindale. Justin Martindale. Amos Gill. Amos Gill. We've got a great show put together for you.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Not all at once. It'll be a mixed match. No, no. You have two opening acts and then me going on with me drivel about blah, blah, blah. I've had a kid. La, la, la. Cock joke. Da, da, da. Religion isn't real. Da, blah, blah. I've had a kid. La, la, la. Cock joke. Da, da, da.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Religion isn't real. Da, da, da. I'm depressed. But I don't want to ruin the show for you. Just a sneak peek. But it's all new stuff. You're really selling it. No, no.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I'm actually very happy with this show. Yeah, you're a good actor. I think it's one of the best acts I've had in a long time. So come along. Jack, what have you got for us? Well, I got my for us well I I got my hair cut so I got a little bit
Starting point is 00:04:27 of confidence back what did you get the mole cut oh what I got people go did you get a hair cut
Starting point is 00:04:34 you go no I got the mole cut yeah no joke I thought you said the mole cut I heard mole and I was like
Starting point is 00:04:40 what's that mean oh it doesn't matter anyway we all agree that Jack looks cut by a blind person Jack looks substantially better with short hair. It's like he's handsome. And before, it wasn't like you were grotesque. I was Grohl-esque.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Before, it was Dave Grohl, more like Dave Gross. Shut up. How much hair was on the floor? It was a ton of hair. It was a ton. They had to do three sessions of sweeping it up. Did you donate it to cancer charities? I think the place that- a ton of hair it was a ton they had to do three sessions of sweeping it up did you donate it to like cancer charities
Starting point is 00:05:07 I think the place no he sends it to his mom I think they recycle it or do something with that hair did you keep the tail did you hear what Jim said no I was too busy answering it
Starting point is 00:05:17 honestly I don't think you want to hear what Jim said he sends it to his mother covered in cum I told you not to listen. I said listen back later. It's for a couple of reasons.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So your mum can hug it and lick it. Hug it and lick it? Yeah, hug it and lick it. And then also so that if you have the DNA in like recreating people, what do you call that? Cloning people ever really kicks off, ready to go. She keeps a cum hair locket. When I talk to my mum every week, she goes, I'm not listening to your ever really kicks off, ready to go. Yeah. She keeps a come here, lock it. When I talk to my mom every week,
Starting point is 00:05:47 she goes, I'm not listening to your podcast. I can't listen to it. It's too crass. And then she goes, I'm out of cum, send me more. The last batch wasn't any good. Your mom's not listening anymore?
Starting point is 00:05:58 No. She refuses. I don't think she ever did. Your mom's a metalhead. When your mom met Kerry King, she got very excited. So this is like death metal, but where to? They're nice about it.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I am going to eat your soul. You're going to be dead. I didn't know your mom was a metalhead. She drags my dad to Metallica concerts. That's cool. My mother liked John Denver. So we all have things. licking cum in lockers
Starting point is 00:06:28 what are we doing Jack? so I redownloaded one of the dating apps Hinge and I think with Hinge there's certain prompts that the girls have answers to so what you do is you comment on one of the prompts to stand out so you have like a funny quip or something
Starting point is 00:06:44 so I figured I could use your guys help to send some funny what you do is you comment on one of the prompts to stand out so you have like a funny quip or something. So I figured I could use your guys' help to send some funny, ice-breaking messages. I don't write things down very funny. That's why I don't like when people go, can you write a message? Like if someone makes you sign a headshot. When someone makes you sign a headshot, I'm just like this, keep on dreaming.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Fuck. What's your name? To Chris. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I'm not good at it. Good work. We did that comedy festival
Starting point is 00:07:08 in Grand Rapids. It was the, what's her name? She died of cancer. Oh, Rita, not Rita Rudner. She was married to Gene Wilder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Who was married to Gene Wilder? Richard Pryor. Anyways, whatever her name was, Gene Wilder's wife. No one's going to look it up for me. You have a computer. I know, but I can't type fast. Gene Wilder. Oh, no, that's not it.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Does it matter who it was? It does. It does. I'm just wondering. It's an old person. Don't tell me stuff. Gilda Radner. Gilda Radner.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Gilda Radner. Gene Wilder was with Gilda Radner? No. Okay. He was married. Gilda Radner. Gilda Radner. Gilda Radner. Gene Waldron was with Gilda Radner? No. Okay. He was married to Gilda Radner. So it was a festival and it was like in her memory, whatever. And Jimmy, do you remember at the end you were signing like stuff for the festival? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And you were like, get better soon. You were doing it as a joke, but it was very funny. You were like writing all these. Someone was like, I heard it's just a cough. No big deal. It's like so many things you kept writing. Oh, God. No, it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:08:14 It was funny. They were all laughing on the outside. All right, Jim. I mean, Jack, so we're going to write some responses. Right. So there's three prompts that we can answer. First one is, it says like, my personal brand is. Oh, you can't say their names.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Probably for the best. Give me a look at it. So it's a girl. It's a woman. And it says for her prompts. My personal brand is, quote, a Popeye's biscuit away from being a tight end. Quoted by Booger McFarland. What?
Starting point is 00:08:45 I don't know. Is this one of those 1800s jokes again? The quote is, a Popeye's biscuit away from being a tight end, and I guess the quote's being credited to Booger McFarland. Booger McFarland, he used to play in the NFL. He's a sports broadcaster. And you're meant to respond back to it? In some way. You're a chicken tender away from full diabetes.
Starting point is 00:09:02 No, you got to say something nice to get her attention. Oh, then she'll laugh. Okay, so that's one. Because she's not that fat. And then there's... What's happening? Oh, is that you? Then there's ideal first date.
Starting point is 00:09:11 She says, anything sports related in parentheses, going to a game, watching at a bar, dot, dot, dot. This isn't a girl for you, Jack. This isn't a girl for you. Well, it's worth a shot.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It's worth a shot. You're not super sports guy. I have an LA Kings jersey. Why don't you say something about putting your chicken tender in her tight end or something? Last one. Last one on my bucket list.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Naming my future daughter Stacey so I can be Stacey's mom. Okay. And then you go, but you ain't got it going on. No, but he wants to get her so that you get it. What you should write is you should write like just, you just go, the guy who wrote that song died from COVID. Sad. That'd be hilarious. Did he? He did. He did. Adam Schlesinger died from COVID. Sad. That'd be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Did he? He did, yeah. He did. Adam Schlesinger died of COVID. Oh, that's really funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy who did that, he died from COVID. He was like one of the first big people to die of COVID.
Starting point is 00:09:53 He also, he's quite, he was like in his 50s or something, but he also wrote That Thing You Do from the movie That Thing You Do, but Stacey's mom was his big hit in That Thing You Do, and he died from the COVID early on. Yeah, you should say that. Yeah, so you say- Like, I haven't recovered or thing you do and he died from the COVID early on yeah you should say that yeah so you say I haven't recovered or something yeah he died from COVID
Starting point is 00:10:07 if you need a shoulder to cry on oh yeah yeah wear a mask yeah what's Schlesinger no Adam Schlesinger yeah
Starting point is 00:10:17 yeah he died at 52 52 with the COVID yeah okay way to bring that up and it was like because I remember it was like around the same time
Starting point is 00:10:24 that Tom Hanks had the COVID. And I was like, this could date back a long time, you know, from that movie. If I hear Liv Tyler has it, then I'm really like,
Starting point is 00:10:33 can lay dormant for a while. The old COVID. Fountains of Wayne. Fountains of Wayne. Fountains of Wayne. All right. So you got your first answer. Did you send it?
Starting point is 00:10:41 For Stacy's mom, it's he died of COVID sad. Yeah. And then say if you need a shoulder to cry on I'm here you need to cry a fountain of wave
Starting point is 00:10:48 you need to cry on a shoulder I've got if you need if you need to cry I've got a shoulder and a biscuit for you I used to
Starting point is 00:10:53 I used to wank off the Rachel Hunter as well or something like that because she was in the film clip she was the woman
Starting point is 00:10:59 who had it going going on she's actually she's the number one model from New Zealand Rachel Hunter. Yeah, somebody Not that good.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Somebody commented about her recently. You don't like her? She's the best looking New Zealander ever. That doesn't make her a supermodel. Come on.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Why are you whispering it? Because I don't want them to be able to figure out what I'm saying. All right, next. All right, set. Let's see. We've got to find someone who I'm saying. All right. All right. Sent. Let's see. We've got to find someone who's suitable.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Oh, okay. All right. We'll just go to one of the, there's a section in here. Glad you have this prepared. There's only so much I can prepare. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Here's a person. Okay. All right. She's wearing a hat. She goes, we're the same type of weird. If you're down to interpretive dance at the club and make other people think you're serious
Starting point is 00:11:47 one I'm weirdly attracted to quirky nerdy witty humor okay this is our wheelhouse you think that's you he's quick quirky nerdy witty and you could say what I do is humor
Starting point is 00:12:04 he's quirky and nerdy, witty. And you could say what I do is humor. He's quirky and nerdy. And then the last one is, I'm the type of texter who presses send between each thought and not just one cohesive text, dot, dot, dot. Sorry, I get a little excited. Yeah, it's bad, but that's how you'd respond right there. I should respond to it and I'd go, well, that's irritating. Don't do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You'll never find anyone. Yeah, I think that's irritating. Don't do that anymore. You'll never find anyone. Yeah, I think that's good. You're annoying. But send it in multiple messages. Have you already matched up with these women? No, this is to get the match. This is to get the match. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:12:35 That's how Hinge works? Yes. Okay. Are we getting money from Hinge? No, but maybe when they hear this segment. So we're basically Roxanne-ing this whole thing. Block us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 What do you mean? What does that mean? Roxanne-ing this whole thing. Block us. Yeah. Okay. What do you mean? What does that mean? Roxanne-ing it? The movie Roxanne with Steve Martin which was actually a remake I think of an old French thing where the guy goes
Starting point is 00:12:53 and speaks like he's got a big nose and there's a girl he likes and then she likes this handsome guy and then he's dumb and can't talk so he stands in the bushes
Starting point is 00:13:01 and he whispers things for him to say and she falls in love with the words not with the guy and it turns out it's really him so he was roxanne-ing the whole thing so so these girls are going to fall in love with me forrest and kelly and not you that's i i used to my old roommates used to have me respond to their online dating things and i'm like you understand that if i'm always having the conversation they're not going to like you when you first meet and And they didn't understand.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So what is it? Witty? What is the whole list? Quirky, nerdy, witty humor. So you say, hey, I'm quirky, nerdy. That's not bad. That's two out of four. Two out of four ain't bad.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yeah, because you're not witty or humorous. Okay. No, no, no. You got to go, I'm all of those things, but not in that order or something like that. Yeah. And then you go, I'm more witty, nerdy, nerdy, nerdy, nerdy, quirky. Humorous.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I've got it. It's quirky, nerdy, witty, humor. Yeah. So it's three adjectives describing humor. This is going well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good segment. I thought this was going to be more exciting.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I mean, it's because they're not giving us much to work with. Look, I know that's the problem. It's their fault. Give me a look at this girl. Give me a look at what this one looks like. Oh, she's hot. She's not really into quirky, nerdy, witty humor. She likes that from a very, very hot guy.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Don't worry about my wife just send no I'm joking this girl does not want to go out with Jack come on Jack she's one of these girls I like nerds 100% you're like some retro t-shirt
Starting point is 00:14:44 that has fucking Pac-Man on it it's like hot people who say they're sapiosexuals and you're like no you're not you just like somebody who can carry a conversation
Starting point is 00:14:51 who's hot yeah yeah yeah she's no no no this girl's awesome there's no way in the world
Starting point is 00:15:01 you're you like yeah Jack you shoot for the stars here then you gotta well you you have to that's what a date would look like There's no way in the world, George. Jack, you shoot for the stars here. You got to. Well, you have to. That's what a date would look like with Jack.
Starting point is 00:15:10 You'd be sitting over the table. Get the fuck out. Yeah, where is she? She's in some high rise with some sort of brunch. She likes to be taken on yachts. This girl would eat you alive. She's got a boat. She would run you alive. He's got a boat. Like she would, she would, she would run you
Starting point is 00:15:25 into the ground. She would, I don't even know what that means exactly. quirky, nerdy, she's not. She's a liar.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Send it back to her, say you're a liar. Just send back the message, you're a liar. Yeah, what she, what she, what she,
Starting point is 00:15:38 what she ran out of it said quirky, witty, humorous, thing, multi-millionaire. Exactly. What if I go, I'm neither of those but I'm very wealthy.
Starting point is 00:15:47 There you go. Send that back. My money will make you laugh. I have so much of it. I'm none of those things. I'm extremely wealthy. How about this? I'm none of these things but I'm extremely wealthy and I'll buy a joke book.
Starting point is 00:16:05 There you go. What's that? You'll match up with her. Yeah. Gold plate. Yeah. If she responds, we'll know that that was us. And that's the test.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And if she says something mean back to you, you go, that was a test you passed. And then she'll write back, I just really like the picture of you. And I hate guys who brag about their money. I would have married you in a heartbeat. Shame. And then you can't let her listen to this. No.
Starting point is 00:16:33 The only way you can't date a smoke show, Jack, because let's say you fucking bring a smoke show back here, right? Right. And we'd be like, because we'd all look at her like this. We wouldn't look at her like, oh, she's hot. We'd be like, what are you doing? What the fuck is this? She'd realize something is up from us just going, why?
Starting point is 00:16:51 What? And I'd go, these are my friends. I would pull her to one side and go, what do you want? He's a good boy. He's a nice person. I don't know what your game is, Missy. All right, do you want to do one more, Jack? Yes, let me find someone.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm sure this is really boosting your confidence. Yeah, you can see how I haven't made eye contact in a while. Your hair looks great, though. The first girl was very attainable. You were out of her league, but I was like, all right, she's a, she's a groundwork model. She's a, she's a, she's a tester girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I'm in, I'm in the tough zone of hinge right now where it takes a long time to find someone good. Luis knows what I'm talking about. Yeah. It takes a while. Occasionally those two match up.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Everyone's left. Still no one? No. All right, we got someone. All right. Last person. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Her name is, wait, no names. My mantra is I love fake people I love games music means nothing to me I'm not a chill guy
Starting point is 00:17:51 and if you fuck with my friends I will help you do it I actually came across that girl I guess so that's a weird mantra she's doing the thing where she's making fun of guys profiles
Starting point is 00:17:59 I think the opposites of like let's see okay so I like fake people you go you like fake people. You go,
Starting point is 00:18:06 you like fake people. Well, that's great. These aren't my original tits. Yeah, right there. That's great. That's perfect. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Uh, I don't know. I think I just liked her and I'll be very upset if you get the like back. Yeah. That's a good one. How does it start? I remember you like fake people. You like fake people?
Starting point is 00:18:23 Oh, oh, you like fake people. Well, that's good because these aren't my original tits. Yeah. DM me for more hot info. Send her a link to OnlyFans. Oh, you like fake people?
Starting point is 00:18:36 That's good. Oh, you like fake people? Question mark, dot, dot, dot. Dot, dot, dot, question mark. I don't know. Yeah, that's good because these tits aren't original or something because these aren't my original tits yeah
Starting point is 00:18:48 good good good yeah that's a good one that would have worked well for the humorous woman because she would have
Starting point is 00:18:55 found that funny if she really did in fact want to find things funny but she didn't so well guys we'll have a follow up
Starting point is 00:19:01 in a few weeks give me a look at that girl I already sent it she's gone now okay let's uh hey we'll find a follow-up in a few weeks. Give me a look at that girl. I already sent it. She's gone now. Okay. Hey, we'll find out in a week when she matches, right? A week.
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Starting point is 00:23:07 How do I turn on my camera? There's a should be on the bottom. All right. Here we go. Here we go. All right. How's it going? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Sorry, sir. I'm sorry. We've already figured out who you are. Well, we already knew you to Jim didn't but but you have a still photo there as your screensaver of
Starting point is 00:23:31 I guess you on a BMX bike yeah oops it's gonna be okay that's alright so Jim this is TJ TJ Jim
Starting point is 00:23:38 TJ thanks for being here hi Jim how are you good thank you good I'm a big fan Jim ah thanks thanks are you still on a BMX bike?
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yes, very big fan. Oh, really? Very big fan. I love Australia, Theo. I've been there a lot of times. It's great. It's okay. Sun's a bit harsh. Yeah, we actually got in touch because he had messaged the show before because he was wanting to come to a taping at some point, but then we got cancelled before he was in LA. Oh, you're welcome to come. Where are you right now in the world? I'm in Croatia. Croatia? Oh, I was going to...
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah, a place called Rovinj. I was going to try to get your tickets to the show, to one of my live shows. Well, he lives in Vegas, but he's filming in Croatia right now. 30th and 31st. 30th and 31st in Vegas if you're back in town. I know. I leave on July 22nd somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:24:29 It's a mess, man. I've been traveling since I'm 14. No, I get it. I get it. All right, well, let's start. I'm sure you do. Usually we have Jim Gasswood, but we'll still play that. We'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:24:43 You still want to play the song? Yeah. I'll just say it. I'll just say it. I'll talk about it. You still want to play the song? I'll just say it. I'll just say it. Yeah, yeah. We'll just play the song. We're recording, right? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:52 All right. Please welcome our guest today, TJ Lavin. And now it's time to play. Yes, no. Yes, no. Yes, no. Yes, no. Judging a book by its cover.
Starting point is 00:25:06 TJ's a BMX guy. Okay, for everybody listening at home, we always have our guests come in on Zoom before we start, obviously, and TJ's Zoom came up, and before the image of him came up, it was just a still photo of him on a BMX bike. And Jim goes, oh, BMX.
Starting point is 00:25:26 BMX guy. The easiest one you've ever had. Let me introduce TJ. TJ Lavin is a professional BMXer and current host of MTV's The Challenge. In the X Games he took bronze three times, silver once, and gold three times. I guess it was in Australia.
Starting point is 00:25:41 He has been the DK Dirt Circuit champion, a champion in the Gravity Games, a European Championship winner, and a CFB champion. In 1995, he was crowned the King of Dirt. He also has a video game named after him, MTV Sports, TJ Lavin's Ultimate BMX. Oh, then you have a video guy.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah. And where are you at right now, TJ? I'm in Croatia filming. It looks very comfortable. You're up against a wall. You look like you're in the back of a service station. You're probably in a bunker or something if it's the challenge. I wish, like, so I had a head injury, right?
Starting point is 00:26:19 In 2010. We know. Well, obviously, right? So in in 2010 i had a head injury and so now my short-term memory is shite and every single thing that somebody tells me this goes in one ear and out the other it's like it's not a matter of disrespect like i i love you guys and i really appreciate you being so forthcoming and like really doing it Kelly because I dropped the ball how many times and like today I got home from work and I'm riding I'm running I'm currently running and then all of a
Starting point is 00:26:55 sudden I look at my phone it's like oh shoot they're waiting for me and I just set up in the ice cream shop I gotta use the wifi. I gotta get on here. I gotta do this thing real quick. Is it okay? Can you please turn down the radio? And she said, yes, this, this really sweet girl. She's like, yes, no problem. There she is. She's so sweet. She said, she said, yeah, no problem. Just that you don't mind customers coming in. yeah no problem just that you don't mind customers coming in I said no I don't mind
Starting point is 00:27:27 we'll talk to the customers is it ice cream or frozen yogurt that makes a big difference to me it's frozen yogurt oh okay
Starting point is 00:27:37 in Croatia I can't trust this bloke I like frozen yogurt no but he said it was ice cream too misleading it's the the first place I saw it like that. No, but he said it was ice cream. Too misleading. It's the first place I saw it and they're
Starting point is 00:27:49 sweet enough to let me in here. Like, yeah, that's awesome. What are the toppings like in a Croatian ice cream store? They're like, you can have gummy bears, fish eye. No! They're fruits. They're fruits. they're really delicious actually
Starting point is 00:28:06 local Croatian fruit they look delicious well here's what we're going to do TJ I'm going to ask Jim some questions about BMX and we'll see what he knows and then at the end of that you're going to yeah
Starting point is 00:28:19 look I know nothing and I know everything simultaneously. Well, look, we're not going to make the question period too long. We'll get into talking with TJ quicker. And TJ's got some cool stories he can tell us and stuff like that too. So at the end of it, just you rate him on what his knowledge is. Zero through 10. 10's the best.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Kelly's going to grade him on confidence. I'm going to grade him on et cetera. 21 through 30, BMX. 11 through 20, DMX, RIP. Zero through 10, XXX. And not, no, but not porn. It's like the Vin Diesel, you know, his extreme movie. Triple X.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah, triple X. Thank you. There you go. Okay. Well, don't ask me the question, what does BMX stand for? That's the first question. I thought it might be. What's the first question?
Starting point is 00:29:04 What does BMX stand for?'s the first question i thought it might be what does bmx stand for bike maximum extreme you're doing great uh when when did it start like where like what happened what's all what's all that what what's the origins like how did it come about these have these penny farthings which is just one big wheel and a little tiny wheel. It was rode by people in fucking top hats, right? And they'd get a bit of a push with one leg and then they'd get up and they'd be sitting really high and no one thought, there's no better way to do this. You can only rotate a wheel on its axis and the thing.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And then someone went, a chain. And they went, what? A chain chain? Like a chain that you chain people up with? No, no, a bike chain. What's a bike chain? Well, it hasn't been invented yet. And they made a cog and then they made a thing
Starting point is 00:29:48 and then they made regular bikes. And then from regular bikes, they made those stupid ones with the bendy down handles that you have once when you're a kid that no one uses anymore. And then BMX bikes, they were your first ones that you could- What were they influenced by largely? Drugs.
Starting point is 00:30:04 first ones that you like what were they influenced by largely drugs it's it's it's like a mountain bike that can do stunts basically you know like a mountain bike can go down mountains and have a little bit of suspension but like like a bmx bikes for the most part i believe never has gears um you'll have things that you can do tricks on them like you'll have pegs on the wheels and stuff like that and different things. Are they in the Olympics? No, they're not. Oh, they are in the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Sorry, I apologize. They are in the Olympics. I remember in the Sydney Olympics. Not stunt, a lot like jumping or anything like that, but the races are. They have those tracks. I loved watching that in the Olympics when they all jump over each other.
Starting point is 00:30:43 One person has a stack. Yeah, they're in the Olympics. All right. Yeah. Can you name any brands of like motocross bikes? BMX bikes? Not like the moto. Oh, Yamaha.
Starting point is 00:30:53 You know how I feel about Yamaha. Yamaha, that's the most bizarre company that's ever existed. Everything they make is great, but they have board meetings that go like this. Okay. So what do you got for me? An outboard motor for a boat. All right, we'll put that in our inventory. What are you making?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Violins. Okay, so we've got outboard motors, we've got violins. All right, what else should we make? Another boat. Amplifiers. Okay, amplifiers, outboard motors, violins. What other products should we make? Motorcycles. All right, so we've got motorcycles, outboard motors, violins. What other products should we make? Motorcycles.
Starting point is 00:31:26 All right, so we've got motorcycles, outboard motors, violins, and then one bloke goes, cellos. Okay, well, that's a big violin, but we'll put it in the list. Put it in. So we've got big violins, little violins, outboard motors. What else do they make? Keyboards. Keyboards.
Starting point is 00:31:42 We make pianos. Musical instruments and motors. We make pianos, Musical instruments and motors. Just hear where it's going. We make pianos, and we probably make some small plane parts that you've never heard of. We're Yamaha. Don't try to label us. There are five different types of BMX bikes.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Can you name one? I can name five different brands. I remember from my childhood, the brands. What is this hint, Kelly? I'll say freestyle. It's based on the terrain, it seems like. Yeah, I'll say freestyle. I'll say racing. I will say dirt
Starting point is 00:32:15 because he's the king of dirt. And I will say pavement and grassy knoll. Grassy knoll again. That's the one that Lee Harvey has. What is different about BMX bikes that enables them to jump and spin and, you know, the tricks they do? Well, I believe that, okay, they can spin and stuff
Starting point is 00:32:35 because they don't have the wires or the hand brakes hanging off so they can have a full access. How do they have brakes then? Well, you can just push backwards on some of them. Some of them just have a single hand brake. How does the wire go? I don't know, but I'm just saying that's for the freestyle ones where you're spinning around.
Starting point is 00:32:49 They don't have the wire. Maybe the dirt track ones have the handbrakes as well. They also have the things like the pegs. They're also lightweight. The seat's normally a bit lower so that you stand up in the saddle for the most part. You very rarely see anyone racing in their seating in the BMX at the back. They sit down.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It would hurt your nuts. Yeah, yeah. And also, unlike bikes of the past, they don't have a basket in the front to carry your groceries. Can you name two professional BMXers, not TJ? Oh, that's easy. Nicole Kidman in the movie BMX Bandits is that a movie?
Starting point is 00:33:27 you've never heard of BMX Bandits? no no no alright everyone everyone we've got a whole new podcast BMX Bandits
Starting point is 00:33:36 is an Australian classic I believe it may be if one of the first five films of Nicole Kidman's career at that stage
Starting point is 00:33:44 she had a mop of curly hair that was like a huge afro of curly hair, and they would put the helmet on, and they'd obviously just put a woman in a wig, and then just the curly hair would stick out. And so what happens is there was a problem with some local gangsters that were importing some walkie-talkies from Asia or something at a very, you know, there was a legal walkie talkie rink happening and her and her two friends,
Starting point is 00:34:08 Mongoose and Mongoose and something else, right? Mongoose is the name of one of the bikes and they all decided to infiltrate with their BMXs. And so there's a lot of them riding through shopping malls in Australia and skidding past people and the crooks go, whoa, whoa, whoa. And falling into fountains. Then there's a scene that was the Manly Waterworks. We're going to have to cut you off soon.
Starting point is 00:34:30 You can't do the whole movie. Let's wrap it up. The Manly Waterworks was this water park in Australia that had three slides, right? They all came out different to each other. And so the criminals chase after Nicole Kidman. They're riding their bikes through the neighborhood. And then, like, the only getaway thing
Starting point is 00:34:46 is for the three of them to get on the water slide and go down with their bikes. Yeah, of course. Right, right? So they go down and then like
Starting point is 00:34:53 of course the gangster who's following them he gets to the slide and goes Whoa, whoa, whoa! But at the end with the radios. Ah, they save them
Starting point is 00:35:01 walkie-talkies. Oh, that's great. I don't have to watch it anymore. And there's like some eggs being thrown and some flower bombs. This does not count for his score.
Starting point is 00:35:08 TJ, tell me you've seen BMX. It does count. Yeah, yeah. Tell me you've seen BMX Bandits. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. What about Curb Dogs?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Have you ever seen Curb Dogs? It's an old video. I have not seen Curb Dogs. It's really old. It's really old. A million times. Oh, yeah, Rad. Yeah, yeah, but it's no BMX Band Dogs. It's really old. It's really old. A million times. Oh, yeah, rad. Yeah, yeah, but it's no BMX band.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's old rad. Okay, last question, Jim. Who was named the King of Dirt in 1995? TJ. Okay, you're paying attention. All right, good. I can give you, Haro's a big brand. Mongoose is a big brand.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And others. Okay. I love others. TJ, zero through 10. 10 is the best. How'd Jim do? I gotta say Jim is a solid 7. Wow. That's pretty good, Jim. He's a solid 7. I mean, the dude
Starting point is 00:35:55 knows a lot. He does know a lot. More than an average bear. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, but I think a lot of that score was based on BMX Bandits retelling the plot, right? You know what else is crazy is that there's so many hidden talents in Australia. They completely infiltrated the X Games and the whole BMX market was just completely taken over by the Aussies. So like Corey Bowen came over and smashed everyone.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Cam White came over and smashed everyone. Cam White came over and killed everyone. Ryan Guttler and Luke Parslow. There's been like a hundred badass BMXers come from Australia now. And they're all like the top pros. Now you see like Jay Toohey is another guy who's in the Olympics. Like they're going to be like they're freestylers because Olympics is in the, in the, I mean,estyles in the Olympics now. These guys are all cut and sick like nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:48 You're giving Jim points based on these other people's accomplishments. They're Australians. How do you get points by proxy? I believe that Australia has more of a BMX, a bike riding culture for kids. I'm only really judging this in LA. When you're living in Sydney, you see packs of kids riding around on bikes together, like 11-year-olds, 12-year-olds, just riding around with that. And I never see that in LA.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And I don't know if I'd let my son, because I feel like the roads are too busy and it would just be a little bit of a mess. But in Australia, I used to just duck off my bike when I was like 10 and come back in the afternoon. I'm not saying, oh, it was different back then. I think kids in Australia can still do that. Well, suburban life in LA is very different than suburban life anywhere else. It still feels city-ish because there's a lot of traffic.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And also you can be in a nice neighborhood in Sydney where it's good to ride and then it's like a skid row, but it's just around the corner. And that's where you learn to ride fast. With all the tents. How do you do it, Kyle? How many bike rides did you have down King's Cross? I never rode that far. I was only within the suburb I grew up in,
Starting point is 00:37:52 and there was a street that I wasn't allowed to go past, and it was sort of like a circular few miles that I was stuck inside. How did he know confidence, Kelly? Well, it didn't sound like he was going to know anything. He talked himself down initially, but you were pretty confident going through that. I'll give you a six. I said I knew everything and I knew nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Six plus seven is 13. I'm going to give you one, so you get 14 DMX RIP because it can't be said enough. TJ, what does BMX stand for? Jim said bike maximum extreme. No, it stands for bicycle motocross. There you go. Yeah, but cross is with a C. It's DMC. No, but it's a cross.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You're right. I know, but DMC, oh, that was already taken by the DeLorean Motor Company. Extreme starts with an E, so there's that. Yeah, but not if you, the way I write it, I go extreme. Yeah, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:38:44 A Taco Bell, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When did it start? Like where, what was it influenced by? He said that he just gave us the history of bikes. He was like big wheel
Starting point is 00:38:55 and the chain. Tiny wheel and top hat. Yeah, yeah. He didn't drop any knowledge on the BMX where it started. Well, it all starts from there. Okay, first of all,
Starting point is 00:39:03 everything starts with Jesus. All right, there. Okay. First of all, everything starts with Jesus. All right. TJ. Yeah. I knew you were funny, but damn, I didn't know you were going to go hard. Just wait 10 minutes. I'll tell you the same joke again.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah, please, please. Thank you. All right. Like, how did it come about? Like, how did it start, like BMX? Well, they were having flat tracks and dirt trails and dirt tracks and stuff like this. And they were just doing flat ground starts with a rubber band as the starting gate. And they would just go. And it was like in the early 70s.
Starting point is 00:39:47 go and it was like in the early 70s and and they would like just trying to ride bmx bikes through wherever like on dirt trails and making the track and racing each other who was fastest in the neighborhood and that was kind of how it started and then it just blew up more and more and more and then all of a sudden dirt jumping started because of there's freestyle like there was there was a jump on the track that somebody was doing tricks on, and it would be like Fuzzy Hall or Todd Lyons would do 360s in their motos. So they were racing BMX, but then they were doing tricks during their motos. So everyone loved them the most. And then they said, let's make a contest out of it.
Starting point is 00:40:21 You need to explain who these people are. You can't just go, it was like Fuzzy and Hall. And expect our audience to go, ah, Fuzzy and Hall. You know Fuzzy. Come on. Oh, I saw them in concert.
Starting point is 00:40:32 That's right. You just lost the point. Well, I mean, so. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. I still love you. I don't need the points. So, but to go from where nobody was watching it to where it got on television and
Starting point is 00:40:48 people are watching Olympics, obviously the movies would help too, but is it like credited to like something like the X games or like stuff that thing competitions and things that you were in, like what was kind of catapulting it, you know? Yeah, that was,
Starting point is 00:41:00 I mean, it was so insane because like in 1995, the X games was invented, right? It was, it came out by a guy named ron simio he was the guy that was in charge of it and and i happened to win my first pro contest that year you know it was crazy because then every year after that i was in x games and all the stuff for 10 years just doing these crazy big contests and and we were like like underground underground dudes that that all the kids and the high school kids were were down with you know it was crazy it was really cool like to be part of something like that at such an early stage i used to love
Starting point is 00:41:38 watching the x games it was a good thing to watch on tv before you had a gig or something like that it was always on like espn or whatever channel it was on. With the X Games, I heard a rumor that, okay, so they put snowboarding, went from the Winter X Games into the Olympics. Now you've got BMX into the Olympics. I heard that the skateboarders never wanted to come over to the Olympics because of drug testing. Would that be fairly accurate? Or like the X Games didn't test you for drugs.
Starting point is 00:42:02 You guys were all fucked up, right? Well, actually, I never did a drug in my life, and I don't even drink alcohol. I never even drank alcohol, only once. But I was the very, very one exception. Stick to that story, man. Stick to that story. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:42:17 The only one exception. It's solid. It works every time. No, I... Thank God he never took drugs. You don't have to have drugs. My only vice is frozen yogurt.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Now it is. But anyway, so you were saying that you didn't take drugs, but the others? But 99.9% yeah, dude. It was awesome. They were motley crew for sure like it was the best it was the best of the best it was awesome and i don't know about the drug testing thing for the olympics situation because i see a lot of the olympic athletes and i'm like
Starting point is 00:42:59 i don't know i don't think so i don't think so. I don't think that's possible. Yeah. He's talking about all the other things. But the drugs that they do, Jim, they're like doing like weed. So they could just be like smoking weed and then quit that for a week, take the test, and call it a day, you know? Yeah. I'm a big fan of weed. Also, I know this about weed. It's not performance enhancing.
Starting point is 00:43:23 No, not at all. Except for on Call of Duty. I seem to be fucking zen when I'm on weed. wheat also it i know this about wheat it's not performance enhancing no not at all except for on call of duty i seem to be fucking zen when i'm on weird it's like it's like i crush on call of duty when i'm stoned in the zone there you go you have no pressure sober like sober when i play like call of duty i come around the door with my gun like this is there anyone more on the door and like on weed i'm like i fucking go in and shoot i'm very good at golf high but not very good sober no i'm not good at anything else except for call of duty so so also do they do they test in in the games for like steroids is is steroid use no no no they don't care about that. No. Maybe in racing. Like, Connor Fields won the gold medal for racing BMX.
Starting point is 00:44:10 It was the first ever Olympics for BMX, and he won, and he's from Vegas. So it was a very big deal for us. Like, we loved the guy. And they tested all of them for everything because in racing, it would really enhance, you know, your speed and power and all that stuff. But in freestyle and dirt jumping and stuff, if you did steroids, it would be so stupid if you were this big buff guy trying to like – Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:33 You'd want to keep your weight down. I'll tell you how to win the races. What you do is you get massive tires, really big ones, real big. You keep the same body frame. You make the arms longer on the thing right here and then you just push a couple of pedals i always thought that about oscar bestorius as well if he made his flippers really big so he only had to do like four steps that's the way to win okay write that down pj um so that when it's called motocross it's in the name so it came from motocross like the dirt bikes and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Yeah. Yeah. Like in the early motocross days, they weren't like they are now today. But it was just like same thing. Like, you know, super flat tracks, you know, with little jumps here and there. But nothing, nothing like today. And BMX was like kids like me who were broke and grew up poor and we couldn't afford a motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So we just rode BMX bikes saying that, you know, this is our motorcycle. We put the clip on with the card and that was our motorcycle. You know, it was cool. Do you ever get Spokie dokes? No. Spokie dokes? What's that? Spokie dokes.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Spokie dokes are these little plastic things that clip onto the spokes, right? And so they slide up and down. So when you ride, your wheel goes, because the Spokie dokes go in and out. What's their function? Just the noise? It makes it look cool. Sounds sick as fuck, dude. I think it's Australian.
Starting point is 00:46:03 If you're a friend of the show send us a spokey dog um we jim said it is recognize the olympic level you confirmed that right like when did that start do you know what year or is it still in the olympics now or is it last olympics i was london when i i'll tell you what i did remember because i i really liked watching them because they look so great as like 20 bikes or jumpers once. I thought a lot of the girls were pretty foxy. It seems to attract some fairly good sorts. It was always like this really hot Swedish girls just putting on a bike
Starting point is 00:46:38 and being like, I am going to ride so fast. Yeah, there's only eight of them in that race. It seems like 20 because they're on the coast orders, but there's only eight of them in that race and it seems like 20 because they're on the coast orders but there's only eight of them so but it is so fast and it's so dangerous and i mean it's very impressive things they do do you do the races or are you just a freestyle guy do you race as well i raced yeah i raced for a long time but i was so like doing freestyle stuff i didn't really love racing i didn't like training and and that like you have to work out crazy stuff like that and i'm like no i'm good you gotta eat right like i like pizza you know what i mean the nice cream like i don't want to
Starting point is 00:47:22 deal with all that i just want to like i just want to have fun on my bike you know so there's last jim different types of bmx bikes and he was saying freestyle racing dirt pavement and grassy knoll so there's are there's different types of bikes for the different types of competitions like the racing or it's yeah yeah for sure um i just thought you were talking about brands and then you started barking those off too so i was like baby this guy knows what he's talking about. Yeah. I was actually impressed by this part. When like freestyle bike is,
Starting point is 00:47:50 is like a flatland. I assume he's talking about like flatland freestyle, like whatever. And then dirt jumping is whatever racing is, whatever. They're all different bikes. So he knew what he's talking about. And then there's ramps,
Starting point is 00:48:01 park, freestyle, um, they're jumping birds with one so it's like this like a big hot bike so you just ride that thing that's a bird bike a ramp um a bird bike and then uh then there's a street which are the ones with the four pegs and you want to go out and ride the handrails and things like that i used to get i used to get a bmx magazine and i didn't i rode a bike but it's like you know when you're a kid in things like that. I used to get a BMX magazine and I rode a bike,
Starting point is 00:48:26 but it's like, you know, when you're a kid in the 90s and you used to get those magazines that just, because the internet wasn't around, where you just went, oh. And there was like guys riding bikes on full pipes and half pipes. And I remember they used to have an edition that came out once a year in this BMX band. It's where they had those old school 3D glasses with the blue cellophane and the red cellophane where you could look at those old school 3D glasses with the blue cellophane and the
Starting point is 00:48:45 red cellophane where you could look at guys riding in 3D. That was a big day. That's cool. Big day. I remember a friend coming over. So we'd just look at the pictures and go, this is fucking boss. This is like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I was just talking about the other day because I used to skateboard a lot. I had a BMX bike too. I had a Haro when you mentioned Haro. Haro. But I used to skateboard a lot. And had a BMX bike too. I had a Haro when you mentioned Haro. All right. But I used to skateboard a lot and there's a skate park near my house now and I go over there and I look at the kids and I'm just like, they're doing,
Starting point is 00:49:11 their level of tricks and things that they're doing, we couldn't even fathom when I was younger. But we had magazines. We didn't have the internet, like you said. So remember in the magazines, it'd be like, do you want to do an Ollie? And then it would just have like a drawing of the step-by-steps, how to do an Ollie. And you'd be like, all right, I guess we'll go try and duplicate that. And you couldn to do an Ollie? And then it would just have a, like a drawing of, of the step-by-steps,
Starting point is 00:49:25 how to do an Ollie and be like, all right, I guess we'll go try and duplicate that. And you couldn't do it. And then now it's like, I think what kids have YouTube and they just go pause, pause, pause.
Starting point is 00:49:33 They look at feet and they just go out there. Do you think that's like, do you find that TJ? Like just the, the stuff that. The advancement is much quicker. It's like, there's one,
Starting point is 00:49:43 there's one place that is responsible for the level of riding, how it's elevated a million times since, since then is Woodward. So Woodward is a training camp where everybody goes to freestyle, like training camp, essentially like BMX, moto, uh,
Starting point is 00:50:02 skateboarding. Even now they have scooters and stuff on there like they're just doing all kinds of everything that's freestyle they're doing it they're down with it and there's big foam pits and there's resi mats and like things like they're very safe to learn all the craziest things that you've ever seen now like everything that i invented or learned or whatever is is like their starting point. You know, now they're just like going even harder and crazier and wilder.
Starting point is 00:50:29 So if I had a 360 tail whip in my repertoire, they do 360 double tail whip or a 720 double tail whip or what, you know, they just add numbers to it. And you're like, dude, that is insane. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:41 So, so like probably the people that you're inspired by were just like this. Look one foot off the pedal. Yeah, exactly. Turn in the air. Turn in the air. Yeah, exactly right. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:50:52 I know what a foam pit is. They jump into a foam pit. What's a resi mat? How does that help you? You said resi mat? It's like there's a quarter inch plastic laid onto a crash pad so that it gives four to six inches when you land on it and and it's harder to break bones it's very slippery as well so when you fall out of the sky you land on it slide and then it like gives the four to six inches so you're good and then you slide out it's
Starting point is 00:51:16 no big deal a quick question when you're at the x games and you have skateboarders and bmx people and whatever other events there are. Do you all stick to your groups? And do you think like skateboarders are dickheads and are they not like the bike people? Is it segregated? Not at all. Oh, that's a shame. No, it's not at all. No, everybody's cool.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Like there used to be a little animosity between a couple of the motocross guys and a couple of the BMX dudes, but all that stuff's washed. Everybody's cool now. Everybody's down with everybody. But when we first came up, it was a little bit of animosity. But then, like, me and Cary Hart, like, he's a motocross guy, Cary Hart. He and I were roommates. Like, we were down with each other. You know, everybody was cool.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Everybody's fun. I once met Tony Hawk, and I was – I'd just come back from being on the road in England or something like that and I had to get to this gig in Vegas and it was one of these it was called the Oddball Show and it was like me
Starting point is 00:52:10 and Dave Chappelle and the Fly of the Conchords it was the MGM Arena in Vegas and I'd been traveling can you please explain those guys I don't know who you're talking about you know
Starting point is 00:52:24 Fuzzy and Chapel. Anyway, so I was doing this gig and then I had just come off the road in England and I was literally like, I just got off the flight, I went on stage, I did my thing, and then I was closing out, I think, the first half or maybe I was just on before the Concords. Yeah, I was just on before the Concords and they were closing out the first half. And I went to my dressing room and there was a bottle of vodka
Starting point is 00:52:47 and I drank half of it very fucking quickly. And my dressing room was literally a dressing room. It was a locker room for whatever hockey team or a boxer would be in before a fight. You know what I mean? So I'm sitting in my locker and I'm fucking hammered, hammered all by myself. I was just like, and I did it because I didn't think I'd get this gig done. I was like, and done.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Get fucked up, right? So I'm sitting there and then Tony Hawk walks in and allegedly he had a friend who was a fan of mine and he wanted to meet me and they went, hey, Jim. And I was like, what? And I thought I was getting drunk by myself out of the public eye, right? And they went, Tony Hawk wants to meet you. I went, break it down.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Like that, right? So Tony Hawk comes in and I went from being like I killed the gig. I went from hero to zero in minutes. I think he was with his wife and he sort of looked at me like, are you okay? And I'm like, I'm good, man. I've been watching you escape for years. And then like I thought the conversation was dying out.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And I remember watching his MTV Cribs episode. They went to his son's room and his son had a South Park pinball machine. And I just bought my first pinball machine. And I went, I just bought a pinball machine. And I go, I know you have a South Park right in your house. And he just went, it's nice to meet you, Jim. And he left.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And oh God, even now when I think about it, I go, I'm trying to keep it to myself. I'll tell him next time I see him, I'll tell him. Tell him see him. I'll tell him. Tell him I don't drink anymore and I still have the pinball machine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah. We can get him on the show. Oh God. He's a really good dude. He was so sweet. He was so, he should have. He's an awesome guy.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah. But, oh man. Well, speaking of, uh, uh, names and stuff like that, I awesome guy. Yeah, but, oh man. Well, speaking of names and stuff like that, I asked you to name two professional BMXers.
Starting point is 00:54:49 TJ doesn't count, you said Nicole King. So who are like, all right, just to clarify, TJ, just to clarify here, BMX Bandits
Starting point is 00:54:59 was a huge movie, correct? It was a big movie. Huge. Huge. No, okay. In the 80s.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I remember Rad. I remember Rad, yeah. I remember once like when Tom Cruise, and he's still married to Nicole Kidman, he came out to Australia and he's like, I love my wife, man, you know, like jumping on couches. Woo! Right?
Starting point is 00:55:18 Tom Cruise-y. And then he was like, and then he said something like this. He went, and he went, and how cute was she in BMX Bandits? Am I right, Australia? Woo! Like that, right? And everyone's like, she's fucking 14, mate. Settle down, Tom.
Starting point is 00:55:37 So who are like some of the top BMXers right now? And then like, who are some of the most famous of all time? Not including yourself. Fuzzy and Wallach yeah Fuzzy Hall and Todd Lyons are some of the most famous of all time and then and then you have
Starting point is 00:55:53 right now you have Ryan Guttler the Australian kid that I was telling you about this insane so good Dennis Anderson is a kid from San Diego who just completely kills Chadad curly does the street he's an amazing amazing rider there's there's there's so many of them now that it's a whole different level of of talent because the pool is so thick and then now they have instagram
Starting point is 00:56:19 and stuff like that so everybody sees everybody's stuff and they just go out and they can do everything you know and there's uh pat casey's another kid who has a dream backyard like the craziest stuff you've ever seen in your life he does it every day just for fun and you're like man this is awesome everyone has cool guy names fuzzy and someone curly and stuff like this no one's ever like larry Liebenstein. I'm sure he represents me. I probably am. You might have a stage name.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah. And so you mentioned like San Diego and Australia. So I feel like it's like a real California thing. Like I always felt like all these kind of sports like originated in California or became popular? Would you say the first BMX video game was the California Games and it was one of the events where you had to pedal so you had skateboarding halfpipe, you had the
Starting point is 00:57:14 hacky sack game, you had the surfing game then you had the BMX one where you had to jump and spin and jump and land on the things. That would be the first BMX game for the Sega Mega Drive. Probably. There was the Santa Cruz one on Nintendo where you were like the monkey and you surfed and you skateboarded. Yeah, we had summer games in the old Santa Cruz.
Starting point is 00:57:31 That was Nintendo versus Sega. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, because I remember that one. Like you had to surf and skate and all that stuff. And then I think, was it Bucky? LASIK. LASIK. LASIK, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:42 He had a video game too. I remember playing that one. All of those Olympic games, I loved them, but they were allik. Yeah. He had a video game too. I remember playing that. All of those Olympic games. I loved them, but they're all this. Yeah. You're scaring the dog. Oh,
Starting point is 00:57:52 sorry. I was set the dog, but that's all. Oh, my Olympic gold medals. Um, your video game. It's,
Starting point is 00:58:01 uh, it's what goes on in your video game then. It's, You know what? I wish I could tell you. I don't play video games. I never even had a Nintendo. Growing up, that's how I got good on bikes. He was out riding bikes and smashing pussy, man.
Starting point is 00:58:20 He didn't have video games. I can tell you what's in his video game. I was little, man. It's like Grand Theft Auto, but with bikes. It was just go out in the morning, like you said. Like exactly what you said, Jim. Like I would go out in the morning, ride all day, just be gone, and then come home in the night.
Starting point is 00:58:39 When the streetlights came on, I came home and that was it. That was the thing. My mother said you had to be home before the streetlights came on. And I remember the streetlights. it. That was the thing. My mother said you had to be home before the streetlights came on. And I remember the streetlights, I'd be on my bike, the streetlights used to turn on in my suburb in blocks. It wasn't like the whole neighborhood just went vroom. It was literally a street where they went
Starting point is 00:58:53 donk. You're like racing. And it was like 150 meters at a time of streetlights. And then I'd be in the next bit. And be like, damn it, I don't want to sleep. And then my mum would go, the streetlights are on.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I go, they weren't when I got home. You know what's cool is that you didn't have cell phones back then so it was way cooler. They couldn't just call you and be like,
Starting point is 00:59:19 get home. It was like, either you were in trouble or not. It was a wonderful time. Kids did go missing. About a small price to pay for freedom. Um, how many bones have you broken on you?
Starting point is 00:59:34 On you? I don't know. I'm like lots. I have metal in three of my four limbs. So, uh, it's very tough sport on the body for sure. And, and like, I have like my wrist right here has two plates and 10 screws,
Starting point is 00:59:49 a couple of screws in this one. I have a rod, a plate and 10 screws in my left leg. And then my right leg's sweet. And that's it. And you were in a medically induced coma at one point, right? After a crash? Yeah, I had a head injury, brain bleed. I had several broken, like my wrists were broken six times,
Starting point is 01:00:09 so three and three. And it just happens. It's very, very often you break stuff. And collarbones, shoulders, arms, ulnar radius every day. It sucks, dude. Are you mates with the Jackass guys? I know they all came from that sort of community. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know It sucks, dude. Are you mates with the Jackass guys? I know they all came from that sort of community.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know those dudes, yeah. I'm not friends with them, but I know them. They're cool. I mean, I'm not friends with them. I just don't like hang out with them or nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I don't really know them, but I know who they are. We know each other kind of in passing and hello. I've seen a lot of them at Woodward and stuff like that met them and stuff but but we never uh we never like been connected lately but those guys are pretty damn badass they do some pretty gnarly shit i know steve i reasonably well and i did our old podcast yeah
Starting point is 01:00:59 yeah steve is great guy and steve i saw him the other day at a gig and he's like we just filmed I went to the place and he goes dude dude we just filmed the new Jackass 40 he goes took a lot longer because we're you know
Starting point is 01:01:13 in our late 40s and takes a while to heal you sound just like him that's great do you mind? I just wanted to find out, the medically
Starting point is 01:01:27 induced coma, was that an accident? Was that an accident? Do you mind talking about it? Or is it not something, like, what happened? No, no, it's all good, dude. I told it, you know, so it's whatever. He's just going to what other people have told him. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't matter anyway. I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:01:44 No, I do remember it like it was yesterday, but like I crashed. It was yesterday. When you're a BMXer, like, you know how to crash. You really do. Like, honest to God, you know how to crash everything. Like almost everything you can, you can get out of with the minimal injury but some things just happen and and that time i i crashed real bad but i put out my wrist and that broke my wrist and when i went through my wrist i smashed my face on the ground and it broke my orbital and and brain bleed so then i was out for two weeks and uh and when woke up, it was a mess. Like I didn't even know what to do. I was pissed in the hallway and all kinds of weird stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:30 So it was like a very bad look. Yeah, it's nice to have a break, isn't it? Yeah. It was the only time I ever had a break. I'll tell you my biggest bike accident. There's nothing. I was fine. But me and my brother Scott, we'd get up to the car park at the soccer field up the road from us, and we'd take our bikes up there.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And my brother, he's a fucking determined fucker. He's just – anyway. So we decided we'd play chicken with each other, all right, and so we ride at full pace heading towards each other. And then always, because I didn't want to injure myself very badly, I would always turn at the very last second and he would just be determined and ride all the way through. And then he would start mocking me going, you'll never beat me.
Starting point is 01:03:13 You can't beat me. I'm too good. Like that. So I got on my bike for that. We did it about four or five times. And the last time I went, I don't care how much I get hurt. I'm going to beat him. And we just
Starting point is 01:03:25 rode into each other at full pace if you watch it you'd go those children are psychopaths and it's you mentioned you broke radius and oh no I broke my left radius mountain biking where like I had mud in the tires I got back in the street and it slid and I got my arm stuck between the frame and the ground and that was like one of the most traumatic things that ever happened to me the recovery and just the fact that you're like yeah I broke my radius my own that was just one bone that I broke from biking
Starting point is 01:03:56 it took forever to recover so it's just amazing that you guys like get back on bikes and keep going. Both of them six times. Six times total. So you have like plates in there, right? You just have like plates and pins. Plates and pins everywhere. It sucks.
Starting point is 01:04:10 That's one thing you can say for the old mobile phones because I remember falling off my bike and sliding and the side of my leg was all torn up and my ankle was a bit twisted and swollen and I had to ride back with just one leg on a pedal like this and the other leg just dripping blood. So I got home. Yeah, I was riding my bike one time when we lived in Canada just by myself
Starting point is 01:04:30 and I tried to pop a wheelie over a sewer, but the chain locked and so it stopped and I flipped over the bike and landed on my face on the ground and just started screaming. And luckily my brother was outside skateboarding, so he came and rescued me. There was always a cunt on my street who could do the perfect wheelie and just hold him forever, just like he was on a unicycle, and he's just riding like that, and you just see him swishing by
Starting point is 01:04:52 and he'd look at you like, and you're like that, and I could pop it up for a second and make the other one. Or that cunt who just doesn't use their hands while they ride and just leaves it down by their side. I could do that. I could do that for a small distance, but that bloke who does it forever, like, oh, this is so much more relaxing. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:05:11 You can't fucking – balance with your hands, dickhead. Stop it. We used to set up ramps. Like we used to have whatever plywood we'd have and like some cinder blocks, whatever, and my friend had just gotten a brand-new bike. I think it was a Haro 2, and he set up the ramp, but't do it he was like milk crates he put under and he put it not centered you know so i i was on his bike he jumped he did some tricks then he like readjusted and then i got it and i went full blast hit the ramp and because it wasn't centered the wood just went
Starting point is 01:05:37 sideways and i just went sideways skidding along the whole road and he came running up and I thought he was coming to help me. And he goes, my pedals. I was just skinned on one side. I was like, thanks, Charlie. Oh, I, I, I was a terrible skateboarder, but I used to have this small street, Phillip street in St. Ives. Right. And it was, it was a little street that had a nice little hill and it used the
Starting point is 01:05:59 asphalt used to be that crackly asphalt. Right. And I used to ride down there and that crackly asphalt made it go a speed that I could handle going down there. Anyway, it was the hill that I ran on. One time I'd go to get on the hill and they'd re-tarmac it with that smooth asphalt. Oh, I was going fast, faster than I'd ever gone.
Starting point is 01:06:17 And I was there going, oh, fuck. And then the board starts doing the death wobbly thing and then you're like, I've got to run. You jump off and run, but you're moving faster than you can run. So you do the first few steps. I've got this. I've got this. And then your body's moving faster than your legs.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And then bang, he's out of the ice cream store now. TJ's on the move. Yeah, yeah. And now he's just out. He's in Croatia. He's walked into a pierogi store, ladies and gentlemen. Did they kick you out of the frozen yogurt?
Starting point is 01:06:47 Yeah, the lady at the frozen yogurt shop is like, that guy says cunt a lot. Can you leave? She didn't say that. They're actually closing because it's 10 o'clock here.
Starting point is 01:06:59 So she's like, we're closed. We got to go. And I was like, of course you do. No problem. She said fro like, of course you do. No problem. She said, fro-go. Fro-go.
Starting point is 01:07:10 In Croatia, is it popular BMXing? Are you there for that? Or is that like, it's just everywhere? No, I'm here for the show. Oh, okay. The show. We don't want you to hang out on the street. What's the show?
Starting point is 01:07:23 The Challenge. Oh, The Challenge. One of my favorite shows. We don't want you to have to hang out on the street. What's the show? The Challenge. One of my favorite shows. We don't want you to have to hang out on the street here. I think it's a good look. There's a backpacker. Hello, mate. Do you want to be on the podcast?
Starting point is 01:07:39 We've never had a guest out on the street like this. I was like, just do it, dude. Whatever. It's like a walking mall. It's not a street. You know, no cars are going to hit you. There's traffic going by.
Starting point is 01:07:53 We're getting a tour of Croatia. Look at those ladies behind you. Look at that. Let's go talk to some women. Big celebrity from Australia, Jim Jefferies. If you're listening, TJ's walking through the streets. I don't even know what city you're in, Croatia.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I don't know any city in Croatia. What's the city? What's the city? Beautiful city. No, we're going to lose you now. No Wi-Fi in the streets of Croatia. You got your Wi-Fi from the frozen yogurt place. You even said that. You can't go too far away from the frozen yogurt.
Starting point is 01:08:42 He's frozen. Oh, wait. Okay. You know what, TJ? Let's just ask you one more question. I have to go back to the frozen yogurt. He's frozen. Oh, wait. Okay. You know what, TJ? Let's just ask you one more question. Go back to the frozen yogurt. TJ, we'll ask you.
Starting point is 01:08:55 We'll do the one last thing. We have this thing called Dinner Party Facts where we ask our guests to just give us some interesting facts or something obscure, interesting that they can talk to
Starting point is 01:09:04 about people with BMX with us. You can do a story, something interesting, like some interesting anecdote or a story or anything from the world of BMX. And we'll close it out with that. Okay. What, what,
Starting point is 01:09:17 what kind of story do you want me to give you? Something that's within the range of the frozen yogurt place. Just what's a fun fact about BMX that people wouldn't know? Fun fact about, oh, all the bike riders on the deck are friends. Are what? Are what? Are friends. Are one of them.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Everybody is friends in BMX. Everybody's cool. No. We're all friends. There's no enemies. There's no rivals. Nothing. Well, I don't know aboutX. Everybody's cool. We're all friends. There's no enemies. There's no rivals, nothing. Well, I don't know about that. Everybody's cool.
Starting point is 01:09:50 There's always a cunt in every walk of life, mate. Nope, no cunts. Everybody's cool. I'm going to tell you a fact about stand-up comedy. We all get along. Most of us do. But we all agree on who the cunts are. Yes, yes, yes. We hate stand-up comedians. along. Most of us do. But we all agree on who the cunts are.
Starting point is 01:10:07 We hate stand-up comedians. Unified in that. All right, TJ, look, I know it's getting late there and you're walking the streets, but watch the show on MTV. I just lost the name of it. Challenge.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I'm sorry. And also play his video game that he knows nothing about MTV sports, TJ Lavin's ultimate BMX. What you do is you go to the yogurt store, your picky yogurt, your picky topping. Anything else you want to say as a closing thought, TJ? Jim,
Starting point is 01:10:41 I just want to say, I've been wanting to meet you for years. I'm honored to be on here thank you so much for having me and I really appreciate you guys for real
Starting point is 01:10:49 I'm serious like this is pretty mad like just coming out here walking around Robey and just doing this shit but I appreciate it oh mate I'd like to meet you too
Starting point is 01:10:59 so let's hang out at a gig sometime so we'll give you my contact details and if you ever want to reach out and come to a gig, just hit me up, mate. Hey, thank you guys so much.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I really appreciate it. Thanks, TJ. Thank you so much, TJ. Bye. That was TJ. Now, if you're ever in a bar and someone comes up to you and says, you know Wi-Fi is all across Croatia? Go, well, I don't know about that, and walk away.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Good night, Australia.

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