I Don't Know About That - Frank Sinatra (Live)

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

Frank Sinatra also put firecrackers in peoples shoes? What's this guy's deal? Our expert Daniel Van Kirk teaches us all about the shenanigans Ol' Blue Eyes got up to. This was recorded live at Flappers Comedy Club in Burbank, CA on May 21, 2024. BIO: Daniel Van Kirk is a stand-up comedian whose comedy has charted at #1 on Apple Music. He just released “Rose Gold,” his first special and second album, available on YouTube. Daniel has been named a “Comic To Watch” by Comedy Central as well as one of JFL’s 42 in Toronto. You may know him from his characters on Bob’s Burgers (FOX), Physical (Apple TV+), Central Park (Apple TV+), and the lead in the feature film, Wine Club (Prime). Daniel can also be heard every week on the hit podcasts, "Pen Pals" with Rory Scovel, and co-hosting "Dumb People Town" with The Sklar Brothers. IG: @danielvankirk Website: danielvankirk.com Rose Gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JYdB7LWEjQ CHAPTERS: 0:00 -- Intro 8:36 -- Judging a Book by It's Cover 12:29 -- Daniel Van Kirk Intro 15:56 -- Questions 28:56 -- Grading 43:27 -- Best Photo of Sinatra 1:10:28 -- Sinatra Was an Asshole 1:14:13 -- Camilla Cleese's Story 1:17:21 -- Dinner Party Fact

Should we do the theme song? You ready for the theme song? We're ready. Do you have your words? Yeah, I'm just saying, do you have your words ready, Jim? Are you standing for this podcast? I'm ready. I'm ready. Alright, normally. Pretzels

Cookies Which one is more inappropriate to have at a comedy show? You might find out on but I don't know about that With me, Jim Jefferies, and Jack Hackett and Forrest Alright, we're starting guys, everybody Thank you, thanks for coming out For the third annual, or third live, I don't know

The third annual? We did one six weeks ago. Yeah. Second annual. Second annual? It's one of my Google searches. Second double it all worked. What's going on, Jim?

Do you want to promote some shows? Wednesday's coming out. Next week. Oh, okay. So I do you want to promote some shows um when's this coming out next week oh okay so I've got lots to promote um if you're in Australia we just added new shows

in Australia to Geelong um an extra show in Canberra and the show in Melbourne sold out so you'll have to travel down to Geelong

and the one in Sydney is almost sold out let's get on to that here in America oh in Canada I'll be touring with Jimmy Carr across the country

me and Jimmy Carr doing the charm offensive tour the two of us so if you're in Canada, I'll be touring with Jimmy Carr across the country. Me and Jimmy Carr doing the Charm Offensive Tour, the two of us. So if you're in Canada, come and check that out. If you're in any other part of the world, me and Jimmy have decided you can suck a dick because we're just doing Canada. What am I doing here in America? You're in San Francisco. San Francisco. I'm going back up there to get me heart.

All right. Okay. San Francisco. San Francisco. I'm going back up there to get me hot. All right. Okay. And San Francisco, I'm at the Warfield, and that's when? This week. This week. Yeah, you might want to promote that one. Yeah, come to San Francisco.

Come to San Francisco. What about for everybody here that's actually in Flappers? All right, if you're actually here in Flappers in December, I'll be playing the Ace Theatre downtown for my one theatre show that I do. Flappers is like, oh, I thought you were going to promote a show here. Yeah. So, we want to see Flappers empty that night. December 14th.

December 14th. No cookies. Yeah, yeah. You know why it's not good December 14th? It's better to be January 14th because then people can give it as a Christmas gift. Wow, what a life. What other ones have we got coming? December 14th. It's better to be January 14th because then people can give it as a Christmas gift. Wow. What a life.

What other ones have we got coming? Dan Soder and Mark Norman. Yeah, Atlanta, St. Louis. You're going to be with Mark Norman and Dan Soder. We're doing like a big thing with their headliners in their own right.

I think they know who they are. No, but the three of them. I'm saying it for people who are listening. It's not just the fucking 150 people here. It's pointing to everybody. I'm pointing to the are. No, but the three of them. I'm saying it for people who are listening. It's not just the fucking 150 people here. This goes out to the world. It's pointing to everybody.

I'm pointing to the ether. So, yeah. But St. Louis and Atlanta on September 13th and 14th. You'll be with Mark Norman and Dan Soder. Oh, boy. You like the comedy? What's the fucking point of that tablecloth?

That doesn't help anything. All I can see is crumbs would get into that. Not in a fucking cookie comedy club, I wouldn't have that. You know what that tablecloth's good for? That's a good mushroom one, isn't it? Because if you've never been on hallucinogens, you will think that mushrooms are a thing

where some little devil will come up and talk to you. Load of rubbish, it's just the table gets a bit wobbly. All those curtains are shimmering. So, jimjeffries.com for the rest of us tour dates,

if you guys... Jim, do you want to tell... I don't know what happened there. Do you want to tell the audience about the little radio mix-up

that happened today? What was the little radio mix-up that happened? Yeah, what happened? Well, you're doing press all day. Oh, you're talking about me and that guy? Yes. Oh, okay. So, I was doing press all day? Oh, you're talking about me and that guy?

Yes. Oh, okay. So I was doing press for the Australian show. So what you do for Australian press is they make you go down to Culver City and you sit in a little room and behind you is they just put just the backdrop of the Hollywood side. And so I assume they think that people think that I'm being interviewed on like Runyon Canyon.

So I go down there and they double booked me, but it was such a tight schedule because I had to do so many other radio shows. And who did they double book me with? Exhibit. Exhibit. Oh, shit. What's he up to? You remember Exhibit from Pimp My Ride? Yeah.

Oh, shit. What's he up to? You remember Xzimit from Pimp My Ride? Yeah. And I asked him, I said, why did you always gussy up old cars? Like, they never got, like, a new car. Because they're always like,

here's a 20-year-old Honda Civic. We're going to put a basketball court in the trunk. That was always the thing. We're putting a hoop that will come out in the fucking trunk. I guess people that couldn't afford it, that's why. Yeah, but they never changed the thing. We're putting a hoop that will come out in the fucking truck. I guess people that couldn't afford it, that's why. Yeah, but they never change the engine. That's like putting new tits on an 80-year-old. Be careful, it's LA. There might be one in the ground.

No, no, no. No, I'm not saying that people don't do it. It's just pointless. What is Xzibit doing? What's he up to? He's on the radio with me. He's doing a rap tour. No, he's actually doing a tour.

He was going down to Australia to do a rap tour. Xzibit. Yeah. All right, well, go to jimjerfries.com for all your shows. He looks the same. He hasn't changed, Xzibit. He's aging like a fine wine. There's ticket links on the website.

It's all there. Go to my website too, foreshaw.net. I'm in Vegas this week. Go to the Comedy Cellar. If you're in Vegas, go to the Rio Comedy Cellar. I'll be there.

I'm meant to be in Vegas in August, but the casino just shut down. So anyone who got tickets for that, I'm sorry. I'm meant to be in Vegas in August, but the casino just shut down. So anyone who got tickets for that, I'm sorry. I'm missing out on the gig as well. But the Mirage is shut. The end of the Mirage. And follow us on Instagram, IDCatPodcast.

Sunrise, sunset. And say hi to Kelly. Kelly Zabilski is in the corner, everybody. We're all friends. She's left us. Kelly now does a podcast with our good friend DJ Qualls. What's the name of the podcast, Kelly? Locked and Probably Loaded.

Locked and Probably Loaded. Wait, it's Locked and Probably Loaded? Yeah. Oh, I thought it was just Loaded. Okay. Locked and Probably Loaded. All right, great. DJ famously came out at one of my shows.

And so he's just gotten engaged. He just announced it on their podcast, right? He just got engaged. And so he's a homosexual man. So it's two men. What are you talking about? It's two men who are engaged. DJ's a good friend of mine.

But you know when you send someone a text and then you're like, oh, this will get a good laugh. And then he didn't respond to me for fucking two days and then the whole time I was just panicking because I'm like maybe he's offended what did you say? I said

because he's getting engaged to a man obviously I said congratulations is it true love or is he pregnant? right? congratulations, is it true love or is he pregnant? Right? I think that's a fun little thing. I love DJ. That's a fun little thing.

And then he just fucking left me hanging, man. And then my brain was like this. Oh, he might be upset. That might have been a step too far. But then if I write back to him it shows weakness. You've got to double down. Anyway, he wrote back to me two days later.

He goes, no, all good. We're abortion people. California. California you want to meet our guest? sure it's time to bring up our guest please welcome Daniel Van Kirk here he comes. Keep clapping.

Keep clapping all the way. Daniel's a comedian. We already know each other. You do know him, but you don't know what he's here to talk about. No, I don't know what he's here to talk about. Yeah. He's brought an iPad. He's backstage.

He's like, can I bring that up? And I said, yeah, no problem. No, the guest has done it. I'm terrified I'm gonna mess it up you'll do better than the Beatles bloke he didn't know what he was doing alright now it's time for our segment yes no yes no yes no yes no judging a book by it's cover what do you got? Okay, so it's very hard to judge a book by its cover.

Normally I pick on the people's backdrops and all that type of stuff. Just me and the backdrop. Is it beards? Fair, fair. Beards, yeah. When was the beard invented? Who was the first cat with a beard? Probably the first person, I would think,

because there wasn't shaving. Right, you weren't there. I don't know about that. You weren't there. You don't know that for sure. But no, okay, so it's not beards. Look, is it something to do with the entertainment business? Yes.

All right. Is it something to do with the entertainment business? Yes. All right. Is it something to do with the movies? Sure. Yeah, a little bit. I mean, yeah,

I wouldn't say that's what you think about. What do you mean that's something you think about? Entertainment, yes. Movies, you're not going to associate

with this subject necessarily, but yes. Okay, is it music based? Yes. Thank you, Jack, but you're not the guest. Hey, teamwork. Hold on. Hold on. Jack got overly

excited just then. Warmer, warmer. Hey, I don't want to get into the people at Flappers here, but too early on the Christmas. I know they're only dipping their toe in and they've only done another bit

but if that starts to spread to the whole fucking room so Christmas is warmer is it? it just made me think of one month I don't even know

what are they celebrating? and then there's just like a woman's dress over there that's the flappers that's the flapper thing is that for sale? is it called flappers. That's the flapper thing. Is that for sale?

No, that's... Oh, is it called flappers because the dress is too high? No, that's not... That's perfect. That's a perfect joke. Yeah. Your son's like that. Your daughter hated that joke. Yes. Yes.

Yes. So it's music related. Is the topic a band? No. Okay. Give me a hint. Someone give me a hint. I don't know if you like this person.

Oh, it's about a person. Oh, is it Beyonce? No. Jesus. I think Beyonce is overrated. I don't want them. Second option. Oh, it's about a person. Oh, is it Beyonce? No. Jesus. I think Beyonce is overrated. I don't want that option. Yeah, I just think Beyonce, she's very good, but she's not as good as you all think.

She's the new world's Johnny Cash. All right, well that's all the time we have. If you're a Johnny Cash fan, you're a fucking fraud. He had four songs over 50 years. There's no one- No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I guess we're not going to get him started on Johnny Cash. We're not doing a fucking fraud. He had four songs over 50 years. There's no one. No, no, no, no, no, no. I guess we're not going out. We're not doing a fucking round of Johnny Cash.

Is it a podcast on Johnny Cash? Yes, that's my topic. Is it really? No. That would have been so cool. I know everything because I hate him so much. You've got to know your enemy. All right. I'm asking real questions for you Jack's got a hit I have an audio hint for you I is it a man or is it a man yes audio hand okay that was Frank Sinatra I don't need to hey

that's all we can pay I love Frank Sinatra what are you talking about I won't like Frank Sinatra the best documentary on Palm Springs is Frank Sinatra on Palm Springs

that's a hell of a documentary there's nothing wrong with old blue eyes I'll tell you that much they reckon he ordered a prostitute like most people order a pizza

that was in a documentary. His best friend said that. Okay, so Daniel Van Kirk is a stand-up comedian whose comedy is charted at number one on Apple Music. He just released Rose Gold, his first special and second album available on YouTube. Daniel has been named a comic to watch by Comedy Central as one of JFL's 42 in Toronto.

And you may know him from his characters on Bob's Burgers, Physical, Central Park, and the lead in the feature film Wine Club. You can also be heard every week on the podcast Pen Pals with Rory Scovel and co-hosting Dumb People Town with the Sklar Brothers. Go to his Instagram, at DanielVanKirk, his website, DanielVanKirk.com.

You can see a special there. Thank you for being here, Daniel. Thank you for having me. Now, I didn't say anything about Frank Sinatra, so why don't you tell us why you're here to talk about Frank Sinatra? How you got to know him? I think I was 16 years old, and I stumbled across the original Ocean's Eleven, maybe about 20, 30 minutes into it.

I watched the entire thing, and by the end of it, I just thought he was like the coolest fucking person I'd ever seen and I then got into the music I bought a CD from my grandmother and then immediately stole it back from her and

it's good when they have dementia and you can get things yeah yeah yeah I'm like I never gave that to you and she's like who are you and then you owe me money again stop stop think about it then I would listen to all of his music

became a huge fan of his and I read books about him and I just love Frank Sinatra I like Frank Sinatra I think I'll do so so on the questions I think so I think I'll do so-so on this. On the questions? I think so. I think I'll do so-so.

He didn't like Australia, Frank Sinatra. He famously didn't like Australia. He called all of our media a bunch of two-bit hookers or something. There's an actual thing. I bet we talk about it. All right, we're going to ask you questions. You know about this, right? Yeah, and he wouldn't go back there unless it was for a million bucks.

Anyway, I don't know about that. I think that might be a question. We'll see. All right, so what I'm going to do, I'm going to ask Jim a series of questions. Heartbroken. He grew up there. Next question. JimJeffries.com for tours and dates.

I'm going to ask Jim a series of questions about Frank Sinatra. He's going to answer them all. At the end of them, answering those, Daniel, you're going to grade him on his accuracy, 0 through 10. Jackson, grade him on confidence. I'm going to grade him 0 through 10 on how hungry I am. And we'll add those scores together. And guess what? I did not make any categories.

I can do it. What? I can be a ring-a-ding-ding. 0 through 10 will be a ring-a-ding-ding. I always like when they sing songs and it says, and a ring-a-ding-ding. I always like when they sing songs and it says, ring-a-ding-ding, and you know what I mean. I went a bit Elvis there. I don't know which one I was doing.

Still very good. What about 11 through 20? 11 through 20 is, hey, you broad. Perfect. 21 through 30? I know it's old time, but we want to bring back broads. It's a great term. Hey, there we want to bring back broads. It's a great term.

There was a few broads over there. 21 through 30, that would be your best score. 21 over there is mild racism against Sammy Davis Jr., although he did let him play in the club. He was very good to Sammy Davis Jr., but some of those roasts were... That's the category? Yeah. Okay.

You're not going to get that one because we're not repeating that one. Okay, first question. What year was Frank Sinatra born and where? There you go. Questions up here. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. I want to say, because I remember when he died,

and he died in what I would like to call the 90s. You're allowed. Yeah, because there was that Jew at town. So he was probably in his late 80s when he died. He got buried with a packet of Camel cigarettes because he loved the smoking here is he born and so I want to say he was born in 1910 okay you don't wear I think you said it already. Hospital. Ho broken. Okay. How many pounds did he weigh when he was born?

Seven pounds, two ounces. All blue eyes. Frank nearly died at birth. What two methods were used to save his life? More cigarettes. Okay, so there's a restaurant in the wind called Sinatra's very good

you didn't like it? the pasta was overcooked I like me pasta to have a bit more bite right but they said someone comes up and goes

this is how Frank liked his food this is his clam dabba dabba doo and this is this was the This was his grandmother's recipes that were passed down to his

niece and this is what Frank used to eat and you go And then you remember the cunt smoked 40 a day He smoked 40 cigarettes a day and he was drinking a litre of fucking Jack Daniels and like Oh let's, he was drinking a liter of fucking Jack Daniels and like, oh, let's,

he wasn't a fucking food critic. So, nearly died at birth. Yeah. What two methods were used to save his life? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he was, it was an umbilical cord around his neck and he's like, hey, what are you doing hanging around? What were the methods used to save his life? They saved his life. How were they saved? like, hey, what are you doing hanging around? What were the methods you save his life He nearly died

Method one what's that? Yeah, that's a big scissors cut the cord. That one is cut the second thing. Oh crash, man What You've never been in the movies before? Anyway. He does his own stunts now. All right. What were two of the three nicknames

Sinatra was famously known by and how did he get them? Old Blue Eyes. Yeah. How did he get that one? He has blue eyes. Piercing blue eyes. Old Blue Eyes. And as he got older it became more

app okay the other one yes three but he didn't like this one Jimmy the rapist Jimmy why Jimmy because he wouldn't give his real name up. He was up to no good. Okay, all right. He's smart. That was him. Look, it was him at his worst. All right, I want to ask how I got that one. What's the third one? Final answer.

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That's a good comment. Very logical answer. All right, got it. Nailed it. Which big band did Sinatra first gain major attention with as a singer?

Glenn Miller band. Okay. Early, early in his career what did his publicist pay women to do that's okay it's not bad it's not that shocking

we still do it to this day what's that say that again oh throw underwear or scream okay early in the

early in the career because in the 1940s and stuff you don't want like underwear being flung on the stage because that's like Tom Jones you get in the early because in the 1940s and stuff you don't want like underwear being flung on the stage because that's like Tom Jones

that you get in the underwear it's like in the 60s late 60s 70s so I'm gonna say Scream okay Sinatra had a famous group of

friends known as the Rat Pack can you name the other main four members yes Peter Lawford yeah Sammy Davis Jr.

yeah Dean Martin. And that's just three, isn't it? Who am I... There's one more. Who am I missing? Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford. People are having discussions.

Everyone has their own guess. Well, you'll find out later. It wasn't Jerry Lewis. He was on the outs already. I don't think he'd be here now. Yeah, definitely not him. Jerry Lewis has been hanging out with Dean Martin. You got three of the four, if you remember, and you can come back.

What was his signature drink? Jack and Coke. Okay. What was the name of the character in The Godfather based on Sinatra? The guy who slept next to the horse's head. Oh, no, that was the producer who slept next to the horse's head to get him into the movie, which is the movie From Here to Eternity, which it was based on,

whereupon Sinatra did actually win the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor. But funny you should ask, because I don't... Sometimes you're doing like a Carnac thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm going to say his name was Steve any last name? oh

some Italian oh Steve Ravioli love it that is his name nailed it his last hit came in 1980 what was it? in 1980 last hit came in 1980. What was it? In 1980. Last hit.

What was it? Because it... It could be my way. Because my way he tried doing very early on in his life and it just didn't have the resonance because you were like, well, he's not old, right? And then I know he tried it once

and then he had another go and had a hit. Even though Elvis had a hit with it in his 30s because we were like, that cunt's going to be dead soon. I think you answered this already.

Frank Sinatra won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. From here to eternity. Okay, how do you get the part? His manager put a horse's head in the country. What significant political figure did he campaign for?

JFK, where he actually built, like, on his estate in Palm Springs, he built, like, a little house for JFK that could have secret service and stuff around it. And then John F. Kennedy didn't visit him and he had a little fucking spat about it afterwards. But JFK. He had a tumultuous relationship with a famous actress?

Ava Gardner. Okay. Doing well now. Which tune is known as his signature song? New York, New York. Or, you know, Under My Skin. You know. New York, New York would be the one, yeah.

What hotel did he have a long-standing performance residency at? In Vegas. Yeah, the Sands. All right, I'm going to skip ahead. We'll get to this one, but we'll get to these. No, I'm going to skip that one. Why? No, no, no, that one.

Frank Sinatra was also known for his humanitarian efforts. Name one significant contribution he made in this area. He's humanitarian. Oh, cigarettes for kids. Now it's cars for kids, but it was cigarettes for kids back then. Still a horrible commercial. Cig, cig, cig, cigarettes for kids.

C-I-G-I-G C sick cigarettes for kids see kids yeah and fizzy okay what was the name of his record label that he found in 1960 I want to change his birth weight down to six pounds because I'm sure his mother would have been a smoker still wrong but we'll let you change it. You know that Sinatra just fell out. Hey, a-ring-a-ding-ding. I've been cramped up in there for so long. Record label name?

1960, founded it. Capitol Records. Okay. What actress was 21 when she married a 50-year-old Sinatra? Mia Farrah. And then her daughter

was 16 when she married a 50-year-old Sinatra? Mia Farrah. And then her daughter was 16 when she married her dad. It's Woody Allen I'm referencing. I'm not allowed to tease the pedophiles down? What are we doing? I make a joke about the pedophiles and you're like... I say, this guy's ex-wife sucked a lot of dicks and you're like, oh. I say, this guy's ex-wife sucked a lot of dicks and you're all applauding. And then I

mention Mia Farrow and you're like, oh. Sinatra was the one who married her when she was 21. What is one thing Sinatra said no man should ever do at night? Anal? Day anal. Only day anal only day anal

yeah because if you do it to the day you can feel your own shame it's well lit and you're like ah there's shit on my dick I brought this on myself really if you do it if you do it at night I brought this on myself, really.

If you do it at night, you can just... What was Sinatra known to do to any man in a restaurant when he didn't like their tie? I want to give a real answer to that last question. Give me the last one. What was it? Because the answer wasn't anal. What did he think no man should ever do at night?

Still anal? I think it's like asking out a girl. You should really do that sober. I don't know. I'm going to say sex. I'm going to say sex. Okay. What was Sinatra known to do to any man in a restaurant when he didn't

like their tie? He'd cut it off or he'd give them... He was a very big tipper, so he might have given a hundred. Hey, buy yourself a new tie. Hey, I play Madison Square Garden.

Dice Clay and Sinatra are the same person in my mind. It's uncanny when you do it. Two more questions. People say I can't do the accent. They won't let me act in the accent, but I think after this podcast... What?

Two more questions. What was one thing Frank Sinatra said that he never did in his entire life? Oh, no, no. Two more questions. What was one thing Frank Sinatra said that he never did in his entire life? You would have done anal. Don't worry about it. Maybe not received, but he definitely gave. Two things that he never did in his entire life. One thing he said he never did in his entire life.

Went six hours without a cigarette. Okay. And then last question. Why did he get stuck in Australia? Okay, so he didn't like the media and the Australian media. Look, I've been the brunt of the Australian media myself and even saying this, they might attack me, but they can get a little precious, the Australian media. They can get a bit precious.

And they said that he was a two-bit singer or something stupid like that and he called all the Australian press a couple of two-bit hookers or something you'll find the quote and then he said and this is like in the early 80s he said i will not come back to that country unless you pay me a million dollars so in today's money he got paid about six million dollars for to do one concert and there was a guy called christopher skace who opened up uh who owned MGM for a while and then it turned out he embezzled a whole lot of money

and he ducked off to Majorca where he acted like he had a lung problem forever and he couldn't fly again and we all said you're a liar, come back to Australia and face the fucking, face the consequences. Then he died of that lung disease. Turned out he was telling the truth. But, so Christopher

Skace was the person who paid for Frank Sinatra to come out and he had Peter Allen, the boy from Oz, open up for him who is famous for When my baby, when my baby smiles at me I go to Rio. We'll do a podcast on him one day.

I'll be the expert lots of anal alright and so yeah so that's the that's the gist he definitely did anal Peter Allen was so gay

that he married Liza Minnelli you don't that's as that's as gay an act as you can do Have a heterosexual marriage With Liza Minnelli It's pretty epic

Alright Daniel, we're done with the questions How did Jim do on his knowledge of Frank Sinatra's Year through 10, 10's the best I'm gonna say like a 7 Yeah What was that? I'm going to say like a 7. Yeah, they're pretty good. Yeah. What was that? Fuck your mom's pasta?

What was the score? I have no clue what the categories were. I'm going to be in the top one. Jack, confidence. He's giving me a 10. He's giving me a 10. I was going to give you an 8 because you admitted you didn't know some answers. Yeah, but I did it confidently. Yeah. That's better than a 10. Jack, it I did it confidently. Yeah. All right. You confidently did it.

Ten. You confidently did it. Jack, it takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. It's true. All right, ten. I'm not very hungry. I just ate three pretzels backstage. I'm not that hungry.

Yeah. That's the most well-rounded meal you can have. They reckon you can live off that. Well, there's mustard and cheese. If you eat it with the cheese sauce, it's got all the essential amino acids. The mustard's the vegetable. So it's pretty good. A lot of fibre.

So zero points for that. And they do the long pretzels as well. You had one. How did you find your pretzel ginger? It looks like a nice pretzel. But have you noticed that Subway now is just doing everything footlong? Subway sandwich is just like everything footlong. Subway

sandwich is just like this. They go, we need a promotion and then one kid went like this. Well, you know, we're famous for our footlongs. Sorry? I said we're famous for our footlongs. Get me some paper. Name some foods. Celery.

More decadent. Cookies. Pretzels. Everything we sell is going to be a foot. If you go in there now, they have the calories on their menu, and the footlong pretzel is like 300 calories. What are the other ones? There's the footlong cookie. And then the cookie is like are the other one there's a footlong churro so some fat fuck could go in there and get all four at once

just have a tray of all their footlongs hey just eat daniel we're done with the question i feel like i lost the crowd when i said fat fuck bear i got three of the footlong cookies one night. I always, with fat people. Your scoring was 15, by the way. I don't even remember what you said. I iced it. No, what was the 11 through 20?

I don't know. 11. 11. It was like, hey, you broads or something. That was the middle one. Ring-a-ding-ding. Yeah, ring-a-ding. All right, so what year was Frank Sinatra born

and where? Jim said he was born in 1920 in Hoboken. Daniel, how did you do that? He was born December 12, 1915 in Hoboken, New Jersey. Five years off. Not too bad. It would have been just after the war. His parents would have been getting down to business.

The economy's good. It doesn't feel like another war's going to come forever. And Jim thought he weighed six pounds because his mom would have smoked cigarettes, but how much did he weigh? They would have encouraged his mother to smoke cigarettes in those days. Yeah, that is a thing they did. It didn't work.

He weighed 13.5 pounds. Okay, so I weighed 10.5 pounds. Me too. I was considered a very half pounds. Me too. I was considered a very big baby. Same. And my mother, I didn't know her before I was born. But she was never a happy person in my lifetime.

In my lifetime, my mother was never what you call a joy to be around. After what you did to her? Fun. And that's what I think. Wasn't the ten and a half pound baby. But my dad also said after my mother died, Jack, what did my father say about my mother? Oh, she had a magical pussy?

She had a magical pussy. That's love. That's love that is an actual quote that's a quote from my father my father said when he met my wife for the first time and my wife was six months pregnant at the time and we had to quarantine for two weeks in a hotel room to get into australia during And he met my wife, whereupon my wife is of Indian descent. He did say, it's a pleasure to meet you, Tasey. I'm looking forward to trying one of your curries. He said that to her and I said, Dad, you can't say that. He said, why not? I said, because she doesn't make them.

I've asked several times. My dad then went on to say to he goes when me and your mother got together we were bloody

good sex life your mother might have been a big girl and not much to look at but she had a bloody magical pussy

it may not have been for everyone but it fit me like a glove this this quote that's romance this quote It may not have been for everyone, but it fit me like a glove. This quote... That's romance. This quote is so fucking accurate

that me and my wife, we have this fun game we play. I'm sure heterosexual and homosexual people all play this game. It's a couple's game. When we're at parties and I'm telling a story, I'll tell a story and a little crowd will gather around me. I'm good at telling stories. A little crowd will gather around me. And my wife does this fun thing where she stands next to me

and goes, that didn't happen. Lovely. I love it because it keeps me on my toes. And if anything, I'd say it strengthens my marriage. my toes and if anything i'd say it strengthens my marriage um but but but when but but when i tell the magical pussy story i had a friend go that never happened and my wife was over the other side of the garden i said tasey tasey and she turns around and i go what does my dad think of my mother's pussy and she just rolled her eyes eyes like she had said this a thousand times. She rolled her eyes and goes,

it's magical, it fits him like a glove. All right, so Frank nearly died at birth. All right. So next question. 13 and a half pounds. What two methods were used to save his life? You said scissors to cut in a belly cord and a crash mat. No, no, no.

Now that I know how fucking fat he was, I'm going to say lipo. He was the first baby. He was the first baby where they go, get that fucking vacuum over here. Ma'am, we're going to do surgery on the baby inside you. This is Grey's Anatomy Season 6. Yeah, I assume afterwards his mother had a retread. Well, let's start with... I've lost him again.

What methods used to save his life, Daniel? The first method to save his life... Wait a minute. How was he dying? I think he was born dead. Or born... I don't know. First they couldn't get him out. And so they used

forceps to pull him out of her vagina, her magical vagina. What, they couldn't do it with two sips? Hey! Oh, oh! Don't forget to get your free cookie, guys. Get your free cookie. Cookies for everyone!

They don't normally do that. Merry Christmas from Flappers. Alright, we're going to take a break here, everybody, so you can gather yourself after that joke. Head to the bathroom. Forceps? Forceps. As they did this to you...

You used eight sips. To pull him out. They get a nine sipper in there. To pull him out, they caused major facial scarring on him, which is why he had scars on his face. You can see one. I think it was his left cheek and left side of his face.

On the other side, they caught his ear and did damage to his eardrum. But it was all in an effort to get him out of there. And then once they got him out, he was not breathing and was unconscious. So the second method was his grandmother took him over to a sink with running water. Wait a minute. Was he born in a hospital? He was born like... That's a good... I was always under the impression he was born in a hospital. I think they just said,

you're a woman, get in here. Because I've always thought that about... You know those people who have births at home? Yeah. You're fucking idiots. It's a fucking surgery. It's a really important fucking thing. It's a really important thing. You're going to want doctors nearby. And you've got some woman who's done an online course

who's going to have a go. You shouldn't... Don't task rabbit your labour. And you're going to do it on the bed where... He was born in a home. He was born in the kitchen of his parents' house. Once again, at least do the bedroom. At least do the

bedroom. Good thing they were in the kitchen. There was a sink. So his grandma takes him over to the sink. He's not breathing. He's lifeless. And she holds him under the cold running water for longer than people said she did. She didn't give up on it. All of a sudden the water woke him up and brought him back.

Alright, grandma. She got under his skin. Hey! said she didn't give up on all sudden the water woke him up and brought him back all right grandma yeah yeah well she got under his skin am i right hey bada bing yeah they just that's coming that's why his grandmother's a tramp i don't know i'm trying to original lyrics original lyrics original lyrics i don't know that's why my grandma Doesn't like dice games or anything that hurts her arthritis. That's good. Workshop this. All right. Next question.

What were two of the three nicknames Sinatra was famously known by, and how did he get them? You said Old Blue Eyes and Blue Eyes, and then, you know. That was the middle one. Early in his life, he was just called The Voice. He was The Voice. But that's John Farnham from Australia. It is?

We have a guy. Have you ever heard that song? You're The Voice, try and understand it. This guy can sing, man. John Farnham. He can fucking sing. Your Australian listeners are going crazy. And he's called The Voice, but he's dying of throat cancer right now.

So it's quite sad. But while I was out there, it's like one of those things. He's been dying for like six months and they keep on updating like the in memoriam thing for the news. They're like, all right, we're ready to go on that. But if you're listening to the podcast, Johnny, I hope you're feeling well. Why was Sinatra called The Voice?

I mean, obviously because... Because he won The Voice. He won season one of The Voice. There was Bing C he won The Voice. He won season one of The Voice. There was Bing Crosby on a chair like this. And then he turned around and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

That's a great thing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He used to from all accounts he used to beat the shit out of Beat the shit out of his kids. He put billiard balls into a sock and hit them with it. Yeah, yeah.

He had like four sons and he used to kick the living shit out of Palm Springs where no one can hear you scream, right? I'm dreaming. All right, third nickname. What was his third nickname? It was after he started his record label, which we'll get to in a question coming up. From then on, he was also referred to as the chairman of the board.

I knew the chairman of the board. I knew that one. The audience was upset with that. Yeah, the chairman of the board. Because I remember when he did that duets album. I bought that duets album. I actually bought the CD. And there was Bono.

It's insane how good you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? You know how Bono comes in like this? And then like, oh, blue eye. And then he's like this. Bono is such a wanker about it. Every time you see Bono, he's just sort of talking effectively.

You're not even on drugs, cunt. You never even did drugs, man. every time you see Bono he's just sort of talking effectively like you're not even on drugs can you never even did drugs man stop wandering around like and he's like

when you meet the chairman of the board he's like fuck off Bono are you okay can you see okay because I think

the stuff's I don't know it's right on your forehead I'm sure Bono takes some drugs too take the edge off hey Are you okay? Can you see okay? Because I think the stuff's... I don't know about... It's right on your forehead. I'm sure, but it takes some drugs to take the edge off. Hey! Oh! Get those cookies.

All right. Nobody say forceps, please. Yeah, it is in my eyes. Yeah. Is that going to blow? No, are you okay? I'm saying it's like the logo's on your forehead the whole time. You can come this way.

It's cool. I think it's... You've gone this far? light-sensitive eyes from doing stand-up. I always see blotches. Just move over to your left. Nah, it's too late now, Jack. It gives like a Blade Runner lighting to what you're up to. Anybody else feel that?

20-40, yeah. Yeah, thank you. I feel like I feel like a Yaquin Phoenix movie Yaquin you look like your records are being

scanned to see if you're still a spy Yaquin how do you say his name I don't say Yas Queen or whatever I don't say Yas Queen

I said Yaquin nobody said how do you say his name Joaquin Joaquin fuck Joaquin. Fuck off. I tell you, he could fuck off. The fucking...

The River parents. I don't know. The Phoenix parents. There we go. Well, both of them. The fucking Mr and Mrs Phoenix with your fucking wank and a half names. Oh, there's River and Yaquin.

Fuck off, guys. Yaquin. You don't like River? They fucking have to fucking... Oh, God. Teaching Little League. Oh. Fuck off, guys. Yaw Queen. You don't like River? I fucking have to fucking... Oh, God. Teaching Little League. Oh, Yaw Queen, you're up to bat. Fuck off, mate.

That's the fucking Tarquin of the 80s. Probably born in the 70s. What was his nickname as a teen? You said Young Blue Eyes? It was Scarface. Scarface. That's what the kids called him because he was small like a scar. What was his nickname as a teen? You said Young Blue Eyes? It was Scarface. That's what the kids called him. Because he was like this.

Hoo-ha! And he had Edward James Olmos acting. I forget what that's called. I like that title. Edward James Olmos acting. You know what I mean? He had that Young Bill Murray. Yeah. almost acting what I mean yeah that young Bill Murray yeah so the bit I think the best fight I think the best mugshot in history is the Frank Sinatra

my Francis Albert I had it the one that yeah the lock I hear a bit of it Google that up for his Jack and then the ladies try to slide off your chair when this comes up. I'm not sexist. Boys as well. Don't get so excited and shit yourself and slide off your chair. Look at that. Look at that. Francis Albert Sinatra.

I've never looked that good in my life. This isn't a digital camera. And you know what he was in for? He was adultery. You got't a digital camera. And you know what he was in for? He was adultery. He got arrested twice for that. Yeah, he was... He wasn't cheating on his wife. He was just fucking someone else's wife. And all the men here with wives...

Come on! Frank Sinatra wants to fuck your wife. You let Frank fuck your wife. I would be honoured if he would have fucked my wife. Did people get arrested for that stuff? Back then? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Forrest is like this, up to what year? Is he still a law? Can you still? Which big band that's not your first game made your attention? Was it a singer? You said Glenn Miller band. That's wrong.

Tommy Dorsey. Tommy Dorsey. And the thing is with Tommy Dorseysey so he had a deal with him and he had like he owned like a big percentage of his career and he could never leave and then he used uh reportedly allegedly uh frank used his mafia connections to go have someone go have a conversation with tommy dorsey and then he was let out of his contract lucky lucianaano? It would have been someone around that era. Later on, it was the Giancana family.

Because Lucky, what's his name? Did anyone know his name? I think Lucky Luciano. Lucky Luciano. He had a cigarette lighter that was engraved to Frank

and all that type of stuff. It ran deep there, I think. Yeah, very much. Okay. He had four famous friends. Oh, I'm sorry. Early in his career,

what did his publicist pay women to do? Audition. Pay girls to scream. Yeah, you said his publicist pay women to do audition pay girls to scream yeah you said scream scream five dollars to scream I did that in my early part

of my career just at the end of jokes just scream just scream just scream and run out of the room terrified

it made me look edgy right had a great comedy show amazing haunted house and then his famous friends out of the room terrified. It made me look edgy. Right. Not a great comedy show. Amazing Haunted House. And then his famous friends that were the rackback. You had them all. I think you said... I'm missing one. You missed one, yeah. You said

Tim Davis Jr., Dean Martin, Peter Lawford. And Joey Bishop. Joey Bishop. You guys knew that? I heard of Joey Bishop. Joey B. Who's Joey Bishop? He's a You guys know that? I heard of Joey Bishop. Joey B. There it is. Who's Joey Bishop? What did he do?

He's a comedian. He was the comic. And he was good friends with Dom Rickles. Have you ever heard that story? There was a question in here, and I figured that would have taken, we'd get to it, but one of the questions was. I don't want to tell that story because Frank tells it better. Do you want to tell it?

Rickles tells it. I mean, you can watch him tell it on the Carson. It's the best. Yeah to tell that story because Frank tells it better. Do you want to tell... Rickles tells it. I mean, you can watch him tell it on the Carson. It's the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there anybody Do you want to tell it? Do you want to hear it?

We can play parts if you like. Okay. Who do you want to be? Any parts. I'll be... Do you want to be Frank? Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll be Frank. Okay, so we're probably at Dantanas. No, we're at Dantanas. Okay. Right? So Dom Rickles, he walks over to Frank Sinatra and he's sitting over there with...

He's got a date with a girl, right? He's trying to make good with this girl. He's trying to... Don is, yeah. Yeah. What do they say? One of the terms they say is... Sinatra says it in the story.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. With his bird. He calls her a bird. Doesn't he call her a bird? Yeah. Chez Chez La Femme. So he goes up and he goes, Frank, he goes, I... What is it, Dom? I'm trying to make it with his bird. He calls her a bird. I think, doesn't he call her a bird? Yeah. Chez Chez La Femme. So he goes up and he goes, he goes, Frank, he goes, I...

What is it, Don? I'm trying to make it with his girl. I'm trying to make it with his girl. It would mean a lot to me if you could walk up and... We're friends and everything. If you came over and said hello, this would really impress...

Can we do it right now or in a little bit? No, no, wait for a bit. I'm going to wait until... After the start. Okay, all right. Okay, all right. So Don goes and sits back down. He's a bit. Wait until after the start. Okay. Okay. Okay.

All right. So Don goes and sits back down. He's sitting over this date, right? About 10, 20 minutes later, Frank gets up from his table. I got to go do this thing for Don, right? I'm caught on this here. Okay.

Here we go. Here we go. You tell anybody about that and I'll fucking kill you. He walks over and he goes, Oh, Don! Great to see you. How are you? This is a date you have here what are you doing i'm trying to talk to this girl true story true story he goes over it what the fuck

frank i'm sitting here trying to have a date he does this all the time he interrupts me all the time oh what a good story for the kids you. You can watch it on YouTube, everybody. No, the theater is so important. Yeah, I thought you guys did a great job. Nobody clapped for you, but I thought you guys did a great job. Oh, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks. Yeah, there we go. We forced it.

We forced the... A ring-a-ding-ding. Applause is applause for us. His signature drink... Lady luck. His signature drink, you said it was a Jack and Coke. I believe that is correct. It is correct.

And then I got insecure about it, so I'm like, wait, what if I've just always thought that? No, Jack Daniels was the drink of choice. 100%. And then some people tried to say it was also a rusty nail. That he enjoyed a rusty nail. I'm like, yeah, he might have, but it's a Jack and Coke. Yeah, Jack and Coke was the standard.

Yeah, Jack and Coke was the standard. Okay. Camel cigarettes, Jack Daniels. The name of the character in The Godfather based on Sinatra, was it Steve Ravioli? Steve... No, you've got to do it. Steve Ravioli.

Steve Ravioli. Hey, my mother, my mother Ravioli. God bless her soul. It was Johnny Fontaine. Johnny Fontaine. And so Sinatra... The book had come out well before the movie, obviously, and everybody, everyone read The Godfather.

And so he was so fucking pissed off that he was one of the leading campaigns to prevent the movie from getting made. He was pressing really hard on the Italian-American League. And then he one time saw Mario Puzo at, it was like a Dan Tano's restaurant that's gone now here in LA. And he tried to beat the shit out of him. He confronted him in the restaurant. And then Coppola had to separate the two and take Mario out of there. The days before camera phones and social media, you could just punch...

It would mean a lot to me if you could walk... Heaven. You think that would hurt your career If you just punched an executive Depends on the executive Makes it legendary People in this town might applaud me for doing it Maybe that guy's an asshole His last hit song came in 1980

What was it? You said My Way It was New York, New York That was the last one That was the last one And that became his signature song. We'll find out. I think you got it backwards. You did get it backwards.

The signature song was famously known as My Way. Yeah, I think that's his signature. There's reports that he hated singing. He'd be like, oh, you're going to enjoy this more than that. But you can see one of his last performances at Madison Square Garden. He said, I will now sing the national anthem,

but you needn't rise. And then he went into My Way. So it was his signature song. I love My Way. It gives you chills. Oh, my god. Side note, speaking of, if you ever get a chance and you want to see a true, I mean,

the great thing about Frank, he always said this, to go back to the Rat Pack. He was like, nobody has more talent in the Rat Pack than Sammy Davis Jr. Dean Martin has the best voice. Joey Bishop's the funniest. And we'll get into Peter Rolfe at some point. I would argue that no one... My father's favourite artist is Sammy Davis Jr.

He was unreal. He could do every single thing better than anybody else. He may be the most talented human being that's ever worked with him. Yes, 100% agree. 100% agree. And you'll have to watch... There's a documentary. His impersonation, he could have been the greatest impersonator.

He could impersonate anyone. He could do any style of dance. He could sting in any style. Although, towards the end there, right, do you remember the Frank Sinatra tour with Sammy Davis Jr. and Liza Minnelli, right? And they did a three-show bit. Yes. And that was back because

cuz Sammy lost all of his money to gambling he's his widow had fuck all at the end he's beautiful Swiss actress he's married his funeral was paid for by Frank Sinatra right because Sammy Davis jr. was broke broke with the fucking gambling and he was he sold his good eye did he yeah it's in Pond Stars you've never seen that episode yeah it's the good eye I always love bringing that fat guy

what's the mate the dad who's the friend Chumlee Chumlee would just be like that oh Sammy Davis Junior.'s good eye. Well, a lot of people didn't know. You're like, fucking Chumley's been given this information.

Of course. There's no way Chumley just knows what to fucking say. Yeah, Sammy Davis Jr. lost his eye on a fucking... You remember back in the days, big steering wheels and all that sort of stuff. Do you remember when cars just looked cool but they weren't safe at all they were just like I have an old car

and it's so unsafe all the time there was no seatbelt and it was just there was a metal dome in the middle of the there was a metal spike that would come out

of the centre of the steering wheel in the 1950s right with no fucking seatbelt and if you brake too hard turns out you lose a fucking eye is that how he lost his eye yes i didn't know the thing i the thing i was getting to when we started talking about it was but frank said the thing about me is when i sing a song

i make you believe it happened to me better than anybody else and if you ever get a chance go watch frank sinatra sing one for my Baby and One for the Road. The whole thing, it's a stage acting performance. He does it with one little light, he acts the whole thing out, he gets a cigarette, and he lights,

it is fucking magic to see him do that performance. One for My Baby and One for the Road. All right, he won an Academy Award. I don't want, Sammy Davis Jr.

in that concert, he decided, Phantom of the Opera was really popular. One of his last two, he was in he decided fan of the Opera was really popular mm-hmm one of his last two he was just doing the music of the night sure just he was on too much coke and cigarettes to hit the high notes towards the end and it was like he steals Ocean's Eleven the original oh he's singing you 11 I think it's wonderful of Ocean's Eleven but I heard it's like a movie the original one oh I think it's wonderful

I think it's absolutely great alright well speaking of movies Frank Sinatra won an Academy Award good job for best acting best supporting actor

for his role Forrest gets upset if the show is free flowing that was just more of a conversation you two were having right there what the fuck

do you think a podcast is Forrest sometimes I feel like you're essentially trying to get a cat to go somewhere, but you can't use your hands. Have you ever seen Forrest slap his dick into a cat to submission? No.

That's without his hands. It's really interesting. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? I've seen Forrest naked herding about four of them into a corner get through there you magical pussies

anyways it was from here to eternity fuck off that was the answer they may not be for everyone but they fit Forrest

like a glove you got this right from here to eternity you got it right it was from here to eternity. You got it right. It was from here to eternity. How did he get the part? You said... The manager cut a head off.

Nah, it wasn't. It would have been some pressure or something. No. He begged for the part because at this point he was in a big lull in his career. This is where I come up in a future question and answer.

He begged. He said, I will do the part for free if you let me have this. And it helped keep the film under budget, so they said fuck it and gave it to him. SAG wouldn't let that happen now. They were getting a lot of people saying,

hey, give him a chance, give him a chance. And when he said he would do it for free, they gave it to him. He won the Oscar and he never looked back. He would have gotten the health insurance, wouldn't he? Wasn't he supposed to be Die Hard? That was the original Die Hard? He was the original casting for Die Hard. Not just that, he got offered, he was supposed to be Die Hard? That was the original Die Hard? He was the original casting for Die Hard.

Not just that, he got offered, he was supposed to be Dirty Harry, but because of a pinky injury when he was young, he couldn't hold the gun like the way

it's supposed to look normal, so he didn't get Die Hard. And then at the age of whatever, 70 something, he was offered the role of John McClane

in Die Hard, and he turned it down. At 70? Yeah, 72 or 76 maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yippee-ki-yay. But he wanted music in there.

Running on glass. Now I've got a machine gun, baby. The tower of my heart. That's good heart that's good that's good yippee-ki-yay motherfuckers the funny thing is

that if he was alive he'd probably remember the film better than Bruce structurally structurally great joke structurally great joke come on he'll remember

where there's a Willis there's a Wayne I don't even know what I'm saying that's a different stroke the fun thing about that joke is

he won't know and he won't be offended so the only reason that would be a problem is one of you actually leave tonight and tell Bruce Willis

and then he remembers for five seconds how upset he is. We're recording this, Jim. This is being put out and this is recorded to be released. Do you think he remembers to download our podcast?

He's our biggest fan. Maybe Demi Moore. I don't know. Who knows? Maybe not Demi Moore. Demi Moore right now is fucking fuming. No, but I like how you're like, the only way he'll find out

is if he goes on YouTube. All right, what significant political figure did Sinatra support in even campaign for in the 1960s? You said JFK. And also because you know that JFK and Sinatra had sex with the same woman at the same time. For sure. They all had sex with Marilyn.

All of them. Yeah, for sure. Same time. Not the same time. Not the same. Same era Not the same No Snatcher and Kennedy Not all the people

Yeah Same decade Like Rock Hudson Wasn't wanking in the corner I don't know Probably not Maybe if JFK was there

If JFK was in there But you went on to say I know I'm looking at Marilyn Trust me I'm looking I'm looking I'm looking at Marilyn, trust me. I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking. Oh, that's such a nice vagina up there. I can see from back here, I can see.

You look sweaty, you look sweaty. Oh, you're doing a great job there, old brown eyes. You went on to say that they had a falling out. This is so true. So I don't think we asked the question so I could say it. Yeah, we still did. Yeah, Sinatra helps get him elected by asking Sam Giancana to get the mob in the Carolinas and the Virginias to go to the unions to vote for JFK. They all do.

JFK nominates his brother secretary of state. JFK promises I'll never go after organized crime. Immediately after becoming president, his brother goes after organized crime. Because of Frank Sinatra's affiliation with organized crime, he now, the guy who fucking changed the lyrics to High Hopes to get him

into the presidency and beg the mob, he then won't have anything to do with Frank. But here's what he does. Frank builds this huge wing to his house for Frank Sinatra to come stay there in Palm Springs. JFK sends Peter Lawford, who's now married

into the Kennedy family at this point, who, by the way, had a hard time ever getting a girlfriend because when he became an actor, his mom told everybody he was gay. So, she... Was his mom told everybody he was gay. So, so, she, he was his mom in every bar.

Yes. It was horrible. Horrible. I don't meet new people all the time without my mom running up and she's gay, you know.

He's gay, you know. So, JFK says to Peter Lawford, go tell Frank I'm not staying there, I'm staying at Bing's. So Peter Lawford

has to go to Frank Sinatra who just finished building his huge wing in Palm Street and says, hey, I'm sorry, Jack's not coming to stay here, he's staying at Bing's. So Peter Lawford has to go to Frank Sinatra, who just finished building his huge wing in Palm Street, and says, hey, I'm sorry. Jack's not coming to stay here. He's staying at Bing's, which enrages Frank because Bing is a Republican and didn't even campaign for Frank Sinatra,

or for JFK. And so after that, Peter Lawford and Frank Sinatra never spoke again. Frank held it against him that Jack didn't. Just for, he killed the messenger on Peter Lawford. They never spoke again. Oh, poor Peter Lawford. They never spoke again. Poor Peter Lawford. Sinatra had a tumultuous relationship

with which famous actress leading to a high-profile marriage and divorce? You said Ava Gardner. Ava Gardner. They used to fight. But you know, you know those couples that fight, you know what else they do?

They fuck. Yeah. We've all been in that relationship. We've been like, why are you with that person? It's a long story. they fuck we've all been in that relationship of people like why are you with that person it's a long story isn't that you fuck a lot yeah it's good sex

they met in the 40s and this was during Frank's downturn and a lot of his depression came from he was just such emotional bipolar manic depressive he once called himself a 24 karat manic depressive and in response to losing Ava Gardner and then he saw Eddie Fisher having all these long lines outside of the theater

was one of the first or second of like four times he tried to kill himself. What? Yeah, Frank went and put his head in an oven and his manager found him almost passed out. Oh, burned eyes? Yeah. Well, no eyebrows.

That's not going to be a weak way to kill you. He tried to do it in the oven. Yeah, one of the times. That's a bloody... Someone who suffers from... That one's just a cry for help. Yeah, I think so. That's a give me a bit of attention.

Unless he got in the oven and shut the door, then... We're okay. Solid work. You just bring me in the gas? But if he did it just out like that I'm in here I'm in here was he smoking

in there because if he smoked a cigarette in there then you've got to give credit where credit's due he was

committed yeah his signature song is My Way in which Las Vegas hotel did Sinatra

have a long standing performance residency? The Sands, you said? That's where you get one of the most classic photos of the Rat Pack. Yeah, one of the most famous photos. They wanted it in front of the Sands sign. And then occasionally Elvis was over at the Hilton while this was all going on, and they used to photobomb each other's shows.

Every now and again Elvis and the Rat Pack would – Elvis and the Memphis Mafia would walk behind the Rat Pack, upstage him a little bit. Elvis seemed like a fun guy. I agree. Frank Sinatra was also known for his humanitarian efforts. Name one significant contribution. I think you said cigarettes. Cigarettes for kids.

That was wrong. He was one of the first financial supporters of Martin Luther King. I like that. I like that. Ooh. Ooh. Like he got Kennedy in the office.

Eh. Ooh. Ooh. And you were a little tongue in cheek about it. However, he is also, this is This could maybe be the dinner party thing. I don't know. But he is credited with desegregating a lot of Vegas hotels

because when they would go places like... Even like Tahoe and Vegas especially, they wouldn't let Sammy Davis Jr. stay there. And he would tell them, I will never fucking play your casino again if you don't. And then from that point on, they would allow black patrons. He also desegregated the country clubs of Palm Springs.

He did as well? Yeah, because there was Jewish-only country clubs and no black people country clubs. Which were weird hats. Yeah, if Frank Sinatra joined your country club, anyone else was allowed to join your country club and everyone wanted Frank Sinatra in their country club. So he desegregated

But look doesn't matter what race religion or color you are if you're a member of a country club, you're a cunt so I don't discriminate against those people Sort of on the side. I'm an equal opportunity cunt Sort of on the side. I'm an equal opportunity cunt. The name of his record label that he found in 1960 was not Capitol.

I thought he was with Capitol Records. He was, and then he started his own. How do you guys want to say it? Reprise? I'd say reprise. Let's call the whole thing off. Wok-a-lang. Sometimes, yeah, with my wife, we actually do,

we had an argument, not an argument, my wife's British and I'm Australian, and so we say tomato, right? Yeah. And my wife, because she's lived here long enough, she went to our son, do you want any tomato? like that was the first American word to come out of her mouth

and I just looked at her like what the fuck what the fuck is that I said, you said tomato and she goes, is that bad? I go, they wrote a fucking song about it be careful for schedule schedule's coming yeah if she says potato

I'm fine if I turn around and go we're having potatoes for dinner oh god I thought no one said that so you correctly answered that he married

Mia Farish he was 21 he was 50. Mm-hmm. Right? I'm not 50 yet. I like your style. I'm just thinking of me next marriage.

Yeah. Oh, God. Just thinking. Just thinking. I'm just thinking. Just thinking. You know what I could do with me next marriage? Look, I'm very happy with my current wife.

We didn't ask this question, but Jim, a member of his family was kidnapped. Did you know this? What's that? A member of his family was kidnapped and held for ransom. We didn't ask this question. Do you know which member? Which member was it? I'm going to say it was Nancy.

It was Frank Sinatra Jr. Oh! Yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple of criminals. Oh, you can't get Nancy. You can't get Nancy. With a smiling face. She'd just walk away with those boots.

There it is. That's what they were made for. Gang, gang, gang, gang. All right. 22. I want to speak quickly about nepotism in Hollywood, right? Very quickly. I don't have a joke to do with this,

but Frank Sinatra Jr. had a go at seeing Nancy Sinatra. Obviously, he had a hit with these boots. And he put them on all the TV shows. And now we've got like Johnny Depp's daughter and things. And we've got different sons and all the Bridges family. All types of stuff. And people in the entertainment business, we're all called frauds and nepotism. I'm already on board with this too.

Yeah. Nepotism because we're letting our kids do things and stuff like that. Okay. You're all allowed to do it in your fucking occupations. Yeah. Whenever we see a truck that says Davis and Sons Removalists, we don't go, nepotism! Nepotism! You're not selling the roofing business.

Yeah, but when you see a law firm called Clark, Clark and Clark, you don't go, oh, oh, these people. We're fucking morons with very basic educations. Yes, this is the one thing we have. Very basic education. My son is in year five. He brings homework home. He asks for my help

my wife is an actress no one in the house can help him you have to call me this stuff is above our pay grade we can't fucking do it so what do you think I'm going to make that cunt do

for a living do you think I'm going to make that cunt do for a living? Do you think I'm going to push maths on him? Hey, Hank, go for accountancy. No. See if you can become the first scientist of my family. No. No. You're going to call.

I'm like, mate, learn as many dick jokes as you can. Yes. This is... I'm like, mate, learn as many dick jokes as you can. You're going to call Jimmy Cameron and be like, hey, will you put some dots on my kid's face and let him be a little blue guy for an hour? Please, please. No, nepotism in Hollywood, this is what we do. This is the family fucking business. Leave us alone.

Run on that. Next question. what is one thing Sinatra said no man should ever do at night you said anal famously I don't remember what else he's he's to go better being yeah it is vagina called good a big when I read when I read this I was in college and it just clicked in me. Thank you. Thank you. I should have said vaginal. The joke would have worked better. I read this when I was in college. It clicked in me, and it drives me nuts.

It's something I can never do either. But the thing no man should ever do at night is wear brown. Wear brown at night. What the? Why would we not wear brown at night? It just looks fucking horrible. And apparently, there was another follow-up. I've been in his hotel room in the Beverly Hills Hotel.

You have? Yeah, and they've kept it the same as when the Rat Pack was there and everything. You can still smoke in there. Really? He said his rule was you could either wear black or dark grey, but after the sun goes down, you should never be wearing brown. And what would Sinatra do to brown shoes if someone wore them at night? He would put firecrackers in them.

He'd shit on them. Yeah. And go, that's the same color. I thought you liked it. Wait, firecrackers, why are the people's feet random? Yeah, he would,

for some reason, he would go to where their shoes were. I don't know if he was breaking into their house and he would put firecrackers in their shoes and set them off. Wasn't it,

wasn't his last wife, the one that lasted the longest? Because he seemed like he was a bit of a cunt. Yes, 100%. He was an asshole. He's blowing up people's shoes. We haven't even gotten to the tie yet. Jack's very upset now.

I wear brown shoes at night. The only reason I don't blow up people's shoes is because I'm fucking lazy. But I had the impulse. Yeah, because the next question is what... Okay, his last wife, was it Harpo or Groucho? Which Marx Brothers wife was it? Oh, I don't know. Okay, so what happens is at the end in Palm Springs, right,

he's living next door to one of the Marx Brothers who also moved out to Palm Springs, right? And I want to say Harpo, who was the one with the horn. Sure, yeah. He was the one that didn't talk. And Harpo had a wife, and they used to go for charades all the time, and then he just started banging Harpo's wife,

and then she married him and moved into the house. They were married like the last 26 years? Yeah, it was Zeppo. Zeppo. Anyone can fuck Zeppos, Yeah, it was Zeppo. Zeppo. Anyone can fuck Zeppo's wife. Sorry about Zeppo. I didn't know. I thought it was

one of the main ones. Harpo, Groucho, Zeppo. Fucking Zeppo. If Zeppo remarried now, I'd take her from him. Fucking fraud, Zeppo. Speaking of him being a dick,

there was something he would do to any man in a restaurant when he didn't like their tie. You said it first. Yeah, he would cut it off. In a restaurant, he'd walk up and go get scissors from the maitre d' and cut their tie. And then... Asshole.

Asshole. But he also used to leave like... When he finished a meal, he used to leave $20 under the table. Just like that. So when the person was cleaning, they'd think, oh. Because how much does that make your day when you find money? It fucking makes...

Better than someone giving it to you. Someone giving it to you, it's fun. But when you find it, it feels like you're cheating the Matrix, doesn't it? You're just like, it's on the street. Street money. Street money. Street money. What was one thing Frank Sinatra said he never did in his entire life?

You said went without a cigarette, but it was... He never said he was sorry. Oh, maybe in song. I'm sorry, no. He never said he was sorry, and that plays into the Australian thing. Yeah, and that's the last question. So what happened in Australia?

He was getting a lot of shit about his connections to the mafia and it was... I guess it just kept being asked by female reporters. I'll do it for you. Excuse me, Mr Sinatra. Yeah. I'm... My name's Noelene

and I'm from Woman's Day magazine. Okay. Quick question for you, Mr. Sinatra. Do you or have you ever hung out with mobsters? To which he said, fuck you. You guys, all you women reporters are whores for the media. He called them all whores for the media. And then the union got together and said, we are striking.

We don't want you in Australia. And he said, you can go fuck yourself. I'm not apologizing. And they said, you can't do any more shows until you apologize. He said, I'm not apologizing. I'm fucking leaving. And then the airport union said they would not fuel his plane. So now he's stuck in Australia.

Oh, no, it would have been a bloke out at the fucking airport. Like, fucking hell, my way's a good song and all, but fuck me. If he spoke to fucking Noelene like that he's got Buckleys and none of me filling up the fucking thing plus I'm drunk and I don't want to do my job today every day was going by and he wasn't doing concerts

and he also wouldn't fucking apologise this is the beauty of living in an island we could really hold you down yeah like you could just go I'll drive to Canada mate in an island. We could really hold you down. Yeah, yeah. Like, you could just go, I'll drive to Canada,

mate, fuck off. Right? But not in Australia, like, back in Ireland, mate. Your move.

There was a point in this podcast when we said that he gave financial support to Martin Luther King and everyone was like, oh, he seems like a good guy. And since that point, it's really taken a note. He pays the money to Martin Luther King to cover up his infidelities.

Firecrackers and people's shoes. It was historical. Martin Luther King didn't cheat on his wife a lot. I'm sorry, you weren't done with the story? That show went very flat. You're not allowed to mention that. The head of the union came... It was in the movie.

Came and met with him. They met for like six hours, and then Frank came out and spoke to the media. He never said he was sorry, but he said he did not mean to offend and just sort of placated them a little bit. So they let him do... He did one final show,

because the whole tour was wasted while he was stuck in Australia. He did one show, and then he got on a plane and left said he's never fucking come back there so I come back and list for a million dollars he was the first artist to ever be paid a million dollars for one concert mm-hmm we have a good friend here that's an audience tonight Camilla Cleese is here and Camilla you have a good Sinatra story I've heard? I don't know him personally. Well, you can come up here.

Okay, so Camilla's father is John Cleese. That's how you get introduced, Camilla. No, but Camilla's a person in her own right, but I think that the story may have something. Has your dad met Sinatra? No, George Slaughter. Do you know who that is? No, no.

Do you know who that is? No. No. Do you know who that is? I do not. Camilla Cleats everybody. Camilla Cleats. I didn't know I was going to

get called out. I just whispered to Kelly that I heard a very funny story about Sinatra. Kelly's still producing this podcast.

Now I feel bad about mentioning your dad. I thought it was going to be a story where your dad met him. No, it's cool. I'm a Nepo baby.

I love being called that. See? I'm a Nepo mid-aged woman. Look, it doesn cool. I'm a nepo baby. I love being called that. See? I'm a nepo mid-age woman. Look, it doesn't always work out. Yeah. At least I don't look like him, right? Thank fucking God. It could be worse.

No, George Slaughter is a legendary comedy producer. He produced Laugh-In and the American Comedy Awards, a lot of different stuff. And he's one of my dad's closest friends. And he told us a story at dinner one night that he was good friends with Sinatra, I guess. And he saw Sinatra dining in a restaurant he had just arrived in and went up to Sinatra and was like, the people I'm dining with absolutely love you.

They're your biggest fans. Could you please come over and say hello to the table? And so halfway through the meal, Sinatra came over to say hello to them and George was like, what the fuck? Why are you interrupting? No! No, we already told that story,

but the Don Rickles version. What? That means multiple people do that to Frank Sinatra. I was doing a set in the other room, so I missed that. But that's... He was really close with Don Rickles, so he was probably sitting with Don Rickles, so he was probably sitting with Don

Rickles, which would make perfect sense. So you're saying that Don Rickles just fucking trolled him for years. Just every moment. This time, Frank, I promise I won't do it again, of course. Of course, but this would mean so much to me if you just

came over this one last time. I opened for Don's daughter not that long ago yeah weird nappo babies unite the worst club to be a part of right now i once did i once was on opie and anthony and don rickles was uh one of the guests and there was about five other comics you can probably hear this recording somewhere you want to stay up get a chair I mean I can sit cross-legged obviously

really hold you down great joke great joke here we go we got a chair we got a chair we got a chair we got a chair

what was I talking about the edibles Don Rickles on Open Anthony I was on the radio with Don Rickles I didn't say was on the radio with Don Rickles I didn't say fucking shit the whole time it was like me, Bill Burr

it was I think Louis CK, it was at Montreal and so there's like the biggest names in comedy, I was the lowest of the low the biggest names in comedy were there and Don Rickles came on and we all just sat there and just listened and stared at him

not one of us she listened to the recording not one of us speak the whole fucking time and I remember there's the one joke I remember from the whole thing he goes like this

he goes I like doing late night shows I do late night shows but I don't I don't do Jimmy Fallon because I don't play ping pong that's fucking what a perfect, concise

take down. Alright, this is a part of our show called Dinner Party Facts. You might have already done them all, but our expert gives us some fact obscure interesting about the subject that the audience can use to impress people. You got one more? Yes, I got one more. So, after Bobby Kennedy decides

he's going to go after the mob, they start losing their shit. And a lot of them, not only are mad at Jack for letting his brother do this after he made promises, they're mad at Frank. So there's a story reported. I don't know if this was caught

through tapes or whatever, but it's been documented. They even put it in the Rat Pack movie starring Ray Liotta. And who else is in it? Don Cheadle's in it. He plays Sammy Davis. He's so fucking good.

Anyway, they have a meeting and they decide, do we want to kill Frank Sinatra for getting us to elect JFK? And now they're coming after us. And Sam Giancana, the head of the Chicago mob, said, no, I love the way he sings Chicago. And so his ability to keep hearing that song is what kept Frank alive. And Frank I'll follow this up with two quick more things. Frank, he was asked once, why do you still, you know, in the 70s and late 60s, why are you still affiliated

with all of these mobsters? Why do you keep these relationships? And he said that in the 40s and into the early 50s, he lost everything. He couldn't get a fucking job in Hollywood to save his life. And he said the only people who gave him work to pay for his kids and take care of his life were the mobsters who paid him

to go into their lounges and sing. And he said, someday, all you fucks are going to stop calling me again, and those are the only people that are going to give me a job. And so I'm not betraying the only thing I know will keep me happy and keep a roof over my head. So he never let them go. And Sam Giancana died.

I know this on a secondhand thing because of the kid who was there. Sam G. and Conner dies. They rent out the funeral in Chicago, Illinois. They say, we want this funeral for three days. And he goes, how much would that cost? And the guy goes, it probably cost I don't know, maybe at this

point I think he said it was like $12,000. He goes, give me a second. Guy walks out to a car, comes back in with a bag full of cash, gives him $30,000 and said, we want this funeral home for the next day. It was for Sam Giancana. On the second day, a car pulls into the back, they open up a garage, the garage comes in, Frank

Sinatra walks in, pays his respects to Sam Giancana and leaves and he didn't want anybody to know that he was there. So that's some little inside tidbit, mob stories about Frank. about friends like me in the Clintons you'll always have a gig with them it's true it's true and no one else in Hollywood wanted me and I'm sitting there in adrenal glands with them and they kept me up they kept me up they did because when we were doing the Jim Jefferies show

because it was you know a moment in history that was going on people were storming capitals and all that stuff I'll tell you what it was it was an awkward time to be on the telly where people were like what's your opinion on this I'd rather not say

I'll get a lot of hate mail as soon as I give any opinion so I used to get people write to me all the time that really meant this how much is Hillary Clinton paying you and there was forums on

on Reddit about how much Hillary Clinton paid me for her agenda or something like that. So I want to set the record straight. It was fucking shit loads. I was making so much fucking coin. Every day, I would just go to my house and say hey Hillary where's the fucking bag

I'm going to say cunt all day and then spread your agenda who better could you be Daniel Van Kirk thank you for being here. Go check out his new special, Rose Gold. You can go to his website, danielvankirk.com,

Instagram, at danielvankirk. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Daniel. It was a joy. Camilla, thanks for coming on stage. Jack, whatever. Jack, Jack, plug your band.

Plug your band. The Doohickeys. Follow the Doohickeys. Hayley's over there in the other half. Oh, where's Hayley? Oh, Hayley. We love Hayley. There we go.

The Doohickeys are in town. That's a signed artist. He's a signed musician. I'm actually not signed yet I thought you meant like it was a deaf person that tried to contribute to music like a signed artist if you could visually see that

that was hilarious just then but on a podcast I'll be honest, some of that was quite weak so ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much that'll be honest some of that was quite weak so ladies and gentlemen thank you so much that'll be the end of the the thing

it's always you know look I've never seen a live podcast I hope you enjoyed it we had a fun topic if you had fun

go tell all your friends and if you didn't have fun, you keep that to yourself. Don't you? You keep that buried deep inside and you just don't fucking be a grass. Don't tell the others out there. Positivity.

What about if you're ever at a party? What if you're ever at a party and someone walks up to you and goes, Frank Sinatra didn't hang out with a mob, go, well, I don't know about that, walk away. Good night, Australia. Thank you, guys.