I Don't Know About That - Frankenstein

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

Our expert Dawn Brodey (@dawn_brodey / @hilfpodcast) revives the IDKAT gang's knowledge on Frankenstein. Jim's new special "High & Dry" is now available on Netflix! Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/IDKAT for ad free episodes, bonus episodes, and more exclusive perks! Tiers start at just $2!

cans doctors peppers calories nutritional facts will we talk about any of these things probably on one podcast we haven't done a dr pepper one you know we i love dr pepper i don't know about that you're jim jeffries hello everyone welcome to the podcast i don't know the music i think the last one you didn't have the music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were off. I just, my word, Kelly's got a Diet Dr. Pepper. It says nutritional fact and calories on the side, and it's in a can. So I worked off that.

Inspiring. Don't give away your secrets. Don't come up with all the words. I worked off that. I would like to do a Dr. Pepper episode. I know a bit about Dr. Pepper. I once watched a whole documentary on it my wife expert my wife like hates the documentaries i watch because she says i watch old man documentaries and she said to one of her friends the other day she goes

they go where's jim and she goes probably upstairs watching a documentary about velcro and i thought i would watch that that sounds good i would watch that all day That would be a good one Actually I know a little bit about that That was Plants You saw the intertwining Of like Venus fly traps And stuff like that How they clinged on to things

Oh really? That's how it started I just thought it was like space So it's all loops It's all loops and hooks Yeah That would be the whole documentary Yeah but then

There'd be the guy And the thing And then the backlash From the button people Yeah You know what I mean? There'd be that, all that. The shoelace community is really brutal.

They'd be trying to push it out the whole time. It'll never take on. And then the zipper mafia comes in. Oh, God. Don't even get me started. Ben Scully said Velcro was what slowed down baseball because everyone stepped out and they put their shoes there. Velcro slowed down.

Yeah, there's lots of fun facts for that. Yeah, I guess when you go to, if you've ever been institutionalized, even briefly, they take your shoelaces away from you so you don't hang yourself. Yeah. And, like, so when I got bake rags, or what it's called, I think I've told this story before. We should introduce our guest just quickly. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dawn Brody.

Hi. How are you going? You don't know what she's here to talk about, but she's our expert. Dawn's a comedian, but I don't know what her expertise is, but she's in the intro bit, so we won't talk about your expertise. But if you want to join in on the Velcro conversation, unless your expertise is Velcro, but you're wearing a buttoned-up overall. That would be a betrayal.

It would be a betrayal. But I watch all documentaries about everything, so I would be in. I'd be like, oh, is this about marshmallow fluff? Oh, yeah. All the food ones. day anyway so how the states so forest was talking about how he was institutionalized get back no well it was it was when i was gambling it's called baker acted it's a florida thing but when i was in there i was in there for two days and uh because they thought i was like a threat to myself my the police but uh everybody in there that was there all the time,

there was people that were regulars, they all had Velcro shoes. And everyone that didn't just had the tongue of their shoe hanging forward with no laces. And you could be like, that guy's a regular. That guy's a regular. She's our first time. Well, Velcro shoes came in when I was young.

And I remember like you were seen as a bit of an idiot if you wore Velcro shoes because it meant you couldn't tie your shoelaces. But man, I wish I had some Velcro shoes now i got them now i've got jordans like like they're like i wear them on stage sometimes like different colors and there's like a two giant flaps of velcro they're the best i like a hybrid where you have like a velcro around the ankle but it ties up the foot so you can prove that you can tie your shoes while having the functionality the people know that you can do it. I can.

It's not that I can't. I just don't like it. Those are old school. The button shoes never worked well. I want to tell a little bit about how my week's been going. So I have two cats, right? I think I've briefly talked about the two cats. One, they both love my wife more than anything.

And me and my son Hank, not so much. There's one cat that actively hates us Elvis likes you Elvis likes me and the other cat he likes me but he's not gonna come and hang out with me all day well she yeah ah no that's why she's yeah yeah that's a girl oh the girl no the girl doesn't like me the boy the boy likes me I'm talking about the boy oh yeah yeah he'll he'll roll around in front of me and i'll pat his belly and lots of stuff anyway i've for lack of a better term i don't know how to um i've built cosby this i i've put i've put catnip all over my pants right i've got catnip sprays everywhere to make the love come to me smart Probably that was a bad reference. I was like, what did you do to your cat?

So I spray my pants with this catnip spray and now the cat's like, the cat that still hates me is walking past me like it's out of a romantic movie and it's just noticed me even though it's been to high school.

It took your glasses off. Just like, I never noticed it before. He's been right in front of me the whole time. Yeah, just like, I never noticed it before. He's been right in front of me the whole time. Yeah, but still doesn't come up to me, but just like, he's doing something different. He's doing something different. But the other cat's all over me, right? So I'm just going to give updates as we go along about me.

I love that, yeah. That's good. Have you tried complete indifference? Oh, no, That was my... I tried treats. I've tried patting and all that type of stuff. Nothing works. Judgment, distance and judgment.

Distance and just letting them come to me. Nothing works. And like the boy cat will come to me. They're brother and sister. They look identical. But the boy cat will come to me all day when my wife's out of the house. Right? Will come and hang out with me. The girl cat cat if my wife is away for a couple of days i won't see that cat

for two days it'll be hiding under a bed it's so angry about the whole situation but catnip pants it's these pants i'm wearing if a cat walked in right now and i'm gonna i'm gonna limit it to like two or three pairs of my pants i'm not not going to do it to all of them. Yeah, you can't. You can't be the catnip pant guy. And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to not catnip one of the three pairs of the pants

and see if there's a Pavlovian response to seeing the pants. And then eventually I'll catnip every second day until eventually they're just like, this is the lap I sit on. This will be your life in retirement. Just catnip experiments. I know what your next update's going to be.

My pants are fucked up. Your cat is going to scratch your pants. I'm not using expensive pants. These are some pants I've had for a while. I'm not using jeans as well because I feel like it might get into the denim too hard. So cotton, I'm using a pair of Vegemite pajama pants that I lounge around the house in. They're not made of Vegemite. They just have the Vegemite pajama pants that I lounge around the house in smart they're not made of Vegemite

they just have the Vegemite logo over them yeah cause you know I'm have you tried Vegemite though might also

be a part of the recipe cats don't cats don't they're like oh they do like salt don't they maybe

hmm well well these thoughts are more in the podcast here's oh we gotta we gotta promote some things I'm in I'm in the UK. Oh, we've got to promote some things.

I'm in the UK right now. I'm back. You just got back. All right. You literally just landed. We're coming to Europe. We're coming, Forrest and Amos Gill is coming with me. We're going to be all over Europe.

We're going to be like the third National Lampoon's vacation movie. Hey. Good reference. Love it. And this, hey Milan, you stepped up your game. I appreciate it.

Lisbon, you've come out of nowhere out of the stalls you're selling tickets. I didn't think anyone in Lisbon. Where's Milan at? Milan's at about, it's a 2,600 seat theater

and it's about 1,500 now. Oh yeah, they're good. A little bit of bullying always helps. Yeah, yeah. It was like, on day one of the sales it was at 30 and we were like fuck me because you meant to sell like one fifth of your tickets on the first day and then you can sort of gauge it off that i was at 30 i was like we might have to cancel my line i came on here and bullied you a little bit and it turns out that the people of italy yeah i'll get to it when i get to it you know that's uh so, so they trickled in the tickets. And then after the bullying, they came in a lot harder.

All the Norwegian gigs are all but sold out. All the Scandinavian gigs are doing very well. And then, of course, our good friends in Greece are selling well. And where was the other place? Prague. Prague's selling well. Yeah, Prague was good last time. Did we sell last time in Prague? Yeah, I think so. All right. Get other place? Prague. Prague's selling well. Yeah, Prague was good last time. Did we sell last time in Prague?

Yeah, I think so. All right. Get in there, Prague. Forrest isn't going to fall over this time. He's going to retain his phone. You don't know. You don't know. I could fall.

I won't throw my phone this time. That is a story we told on Patreon last week, and it's very funny. I suspect if I see Forrest in Prague, he's going to come down in some real stable shoes. I suspect if I see Forrest in Prague, he's going to come down in some real stable shoes. Because if he slips on his ass twice in Prague, that'll become a thing. Not just a moment. Look, I might even take a picture of me falling in Prague just for fun. But I won't throw my phone.

I won't throw my phone at Amos. I promise that. Just don't eat any bananas and leave the pill or anything like that. I fell over the other day and cat vomit. I went boonk, like straight on it. Just walked down my house, boonk. Oh, it's the worst. Cat vomits in Prague. What is it with fucking cats and vomiting as well?

Just keep it in. I know. Like it's once a week. Hot take. Once a week cats vomit. It's like just... Stop vomiting, cats. For sure. Try to fucking not eat so much. week. Once a week cats vomit. It's like just trying to try to fucking not eat so

much. You don't have to eat everything in the fucking bowl. And because we have two cats the girl I watch you inhale your food every time

you eat. Yeah but I don't vomit. I don't vomit. Not on a regular basis. I vomit about three times a year.

And if he does he does it in the toilet bowl and cleans up after. Yeah exactly. I don't just vomit on the carpet and just sort of lick my lips and walk away. You don't groom yourself with your own tongue.

No, I never said I didn't do that. I get my wife to do that. So I do her. You 69 tongue clean. Not genitals. It's disgusting. Just each other's hair. Yeah.

Well, you wouldn't 69 then clean your hair 99 it would still no no no it would still we go top of head to top of head

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check those out it's patreon.com slash idcat. And there is a Velcro documentary, but it is four minutes and nine seconds. That must be the trailer. That's not in depth enough for me. I need to know how it was manufactured

and how the rollout happened. Because there's always a bit. There's always a bit in the whole thing. You want to hear about the meeting, the initial meeting. I took her to some trade shows. No one was interested. And then Barry Bonds put it on a sock.

I don't know. It was before Barry Bonds. But I'm just saying, what year was it invented? Oh, I don't know. I just closed that window. Oh, shit. God. I'm going to guess.

Yeah, okay. I'm going to guess 1855. Oh, 1855 for Velcro. It was March 16th. No, okay. I'm going to guess 1855. Oh, 1855 for Velcro. It was March 16th, 1954 in Switzerland. What? Did you say an American? Yeah. He was just the worst watchmaker ever.

And Velcro comes from the French words velour for velvet and crochet for hook. Does nylon really come from New York and London combined? I always heard that rumor. I will find out next week on the Velcro episode. Everyone, that'll keep you tuned in. Don't Google it. Catnip and Velcro updates coming next week. All right, we better start some ads.

Buy this stuff. Wow, those are some great ads. Great ads. Please welcome our guest today, Don Brody. Hi. Hello, Don. Now it's time to play. One second.

It closed. I'm used to us cutting. Hold on. Hold on. It's going to be so worth it. This is so good. Yes, no. Yes, no.

Yes, no. Judging a book by its cover all right how are you doing thanks for being on the podcast you're a stand-up comedian you're a mum i know that about you so i'm trying to piece together what your expertise she just recently worked with you open for you yeah but that's your expertise that can't be your expertise opening for me. You should get that job on another podcast that's similar to this one. Okay, so is it to do with education? Peripherally. It's next to education. Peripherally.

Yeah, I think you were in the green room, but Don mentioned she had a degree in science. I wasn't listening. I think we were careful you had a great set Don yeah thanks we were definitely careful that he wouldn't hear

I was focused you did you started jumping between us at some point you were like don't listen to any more of what she has to say

I'm looking at your tattoos right so you got compasses compasses this is like a yeah compasses this is

anchors the sea yeah pirates she's worldly um is it got to do with

uh historical travel historical yes travel incidentally so history yes

um is it got to do oh is this the human body no we have a lot of human bodies. This is a thing. I mean, you know, is this a creature? I don't know. Mermaids.

Literature? Literature. Yeah, we're talking about literature, but a creature. A person or a thing. Oh, is it a fictional character? I guess a person. Yes, he's a big Halloween guy. From literature, yeah.

Is it Sherlock Holmes? Close. You're dancing around. That Halloween guy. He's a big Halloween guy. Big Halloween guy. He loves Sherlock Holmes? Close. You're dancing around. That Halloween guy. That's what... He's a big Halloween guy. Big Halloween guy. Mike Myers.

And cereal. And cereal. Halloween and cereal. No, no, no, no, no, no. Cereal and Halloween. That's a good one. Cereal. And Mel Brooks.

Obviously a cereal killer. No, but a delicious cereal. Oh, Captain Crunch. That's it. No, but Halloween. You're right there. You're right there. Oh, Captain Crunch. That's it. No, but Halloween. You're right there. You're right there. That's good.

Oh, Boo Berries. They're right. Keep going. Very close. Keep going. Fruit Loops. No, no, no. Boo Berry, you were on the right.

Who's next to Boo? If you have a whole collection. It's another berry. Oh, Count Dracula. Right next to them? Yeah. The other one. Something berry.

They're all in a lineup at the same party. Maybe you don't have this cereal. No, I've never had this. Frankenberry? You've never had Frankenberry? I've never had Frankenberry. We're talking about Frankenberry cereal today. No, I'm kidding.

I'm the heiress of General Mills. We're talking about Frankenstein. How are you an expert in Frankenberry cereal? No, no, no. Frankenstein we're talking about. Oh, Frankenstein. It was a really long clue. I sometimes call my son Hankenstein. Well, you'll do well in about. Oh, Frankenstein. It was a really long clue. I sometimes call my son Hankenstein.

Well, you'll do well in this. Okay, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Let's do it. Okay. Ready to go. Question one, ready to go. Tom Brody has a degree in history and theater from the University of Minnesota.

She has appeared on the History Channel series Crazy Rich Ancients. Oh. That was almost something. Well, I'm assuming that was after the movie. I did not come up with the title. Okay, okay. Don also has a podcast called Hilf History I'd Like to Fuck,

and you can find her on Instagram at Don underscore Brody and at Hilf History I'd Like to Fuck and you can find her on Instagram at Don underscore Brody and at Hilf Podcast. Tell us how you Frankenstein like how did that become something that you know a lot about? Well I as I said it was a theater history major so

it's like how do you merge these two things and I graduated right after 9-11 so there were like no jobs in theater no jobs anywhere and it was like this fairly viable thing. What do you mean right after 9-11 so there were like no jobs in theater no jobs anywhere and it was like this fairly viable thing right after 9-11 like September of 2001 so like really the first part of the year they were like there's so many acting jobs and there's so many film is so lucrative and then it was like oh god what everyone lost their job so I had to find a real job and because I was a historian I got a job in a museum,

a local museum in Minneapolis called the Bakken that was founded by the guy who invented the pacemaker. Oh. And he said that the reason he was inspired to create this, like, life-saving device that is so crazy, and he founded Medtronic, is because he saw the movie Frankenstein when he was 10 years old in 1931, and he was inspired to, like, can electricity bring the dead to life? And he realized, no, it can't bring the dead to life, but the right amount of electricity

applied to the right organ at the right instant can snatch death. Was he before? That should have been your dinner. I know you have a better dinner party. Was he before the poof guy? Yeah, well, kind of in tandem. Was the poof?

The poof guy? Yeah, the defibrillator. Clear. Yeah, the defibrillator guy you know i don't know sorry for all the spit on the microphone i kind of enjoy it i'm a big fan it's a thrill um but he he there was a pacemaker before but it was plugged into the wall and then the cords would go through your body and attach to your heart and keep your heart like beating regularly but the power went out or you were a kid you had to be literally plugged into the wall yeah and so how did you get from wall to wall you had to keep a little room you had to get a long cohort yeah so they and so he

invented one that still went into the body which created a lot of infection but at least you could go for a walk and you could like take it out with you yeah and he became very rich and founded this medical device company and then when he like his pet project was this museum of medical devices and he said i want frankenstein to be central to this museum because it inspired me and i think that science fiction will inspire minds like this and then they hired me to create a mary shelley exhibit so for 15 years i worked there and i wrote a one-woman show that I performed thousands of times. It's still performed at the museum today. I toured. I went around meeting

Frankenstein experts from around the world because it's the most read book in the world. And there's all sorts of crazy groups. It's very exciting. And I am like... Wait, the Bible, you think it's read more? I think the Bible is the most read book in the world. Yeah, from front to cover.

Back to front to back, yeah. What do you do when you're in a hotel room and you're bored? I don't watch TV. I started reading the Bible. I used to say on stage, I said, I read the Bible from cover to cover. And then an older comic, I was like 23, said, no, you didn't. I went, yeah. But I got about 80 pages in before I read

I read two pages I'm like I'm good you can skip the list the books of lists and then get to the like exciting stuff the damnation it doesn't make sense

there's no linear story to it it just jumps around it's kind of like a magazine more like a magazine there's so many chapters yeah it just keeps going and going well I'm going to ask you

some questions about Frankenstein and Jim's going to answer them. And then when he's done answering them, you're going to grade him on his accuracy, 0 through 10. Kelly's going to grade him on confidence. I'm going to grade him on et cetera. We'll add all those scores together. If you get 21 through 30, Franken-Sinatra.

Beautiful. 11 through 20, Franken-Beans. Franken-Beans. And then 0 through 10, Franken, my my dear But I don't give a damn What is Franken Beans? That's like a thing I always hear Americans say Hot dogs

Franken Beans It's just hot dogs Mixed with like Baked beans And sitting in the beans Also cock and balls Yeah Okay

I saw them on the office Say Franken Beans They're gross They're really gross I like hot dogs And baked beans You wouldn't like these He put beans're really gross. I like hot dogs and baked beans. You wouldn't like these. He put beans on toast.

Oh, that's right. I had baked beans just in a pita bread. I ate it like a sandwich yesterday, cold. It was fucking brilliant. Oh, dear. Nice. Put some Franks in there. Yeah, lovely shit the next day.

Lovely. My hemorrhoids are the best I've ever been. I'm coming down the stairs, skipping, talking to my wife like, you could fuck this ass. That's how good it is right now. Save it for the hemorrhoid podcast. All right. When was Frankenstein first published?

Oh, so Mary Schelling. She was writing from then till then. What? 17. No, 18. um what 17 no 18 18 42 what is the full title of the novel mary shelley's frankenstein okay frankenstein's monster what inspired mary shelley to write Frankenstein? She worked with a veterinarian, and they tried to amputee and put a leg on something. Okay.

Who is the protagonist of the novel? The people with the pitchforks who are coming up there to fucking cancel culture. I'm going to say cancel culture. They tried to cancel him all day. And also, Frankenstein is the name of the doctor, not the name of the monster. The monster is Frankenstein's monster. What's the doctor's name?

Dr. Frankenstein, man. First name? Alvin. Okay. Who is the antagonist of the novel? The antagonist of the novel? Oh, the antagonist is the bad one, right? Yes, yes.

So I'll say cancel culture for that one. And the first one, I'll say Dr. Frankenstein. What is the setting of the novel? A whole lot of those Tesla lamps. They go, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. It's somewhere in Europe. I'll say Berlin. What do you think, briefly, is the plot?

There's a guy, and he's got no friends. I haven't seen it. You haven't even seen the movie? I've never even seen the Robert De Niro one. I've just never been interested in it. There's a Robert De Niro one? Yeah, Robert De Niro plays Frankenstein. That's really bad.

It's my least favorite. What the fuck is happening? I don't know about that. You've never seen it? No, I didn't know this existed. Hey, I plays Frankenstein. What? It's really bad. It's my least favorite. What the fuck is happening? I don't know about that. You've never seen that? No, I didn't know this existed. Kenneth Branagh. Hey, I'm Frankenstein. Kenneth Branagh. Helena Bonham Carter.

What are you looking at? Robert De Niro. It's real bad. God damn it. And like Frankenstein's meant to be tall with platform shoes and De Niro's like 5'7". Just like a small guy that's like. You're talking to me? You're talking to me?

I'm a monster. It's terrible. I take deep offense to that. And he calls it, Kenneth Branagh calls the movie Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. And it makes me crazy. Yeah, yeah.

He doesn't have the walk going. He just sort of is around the house going, Fucking hell, I'm a monster. There's a guy with no friends and you've never seen it. No, there's a guy with no friends and he wants a friend

and so he gets different body, he goes down to the cemetery and he gets different body parts. Oh no, he tries to get the brain of a friend that he used to have

or something like that and put it into other body parts and then he builds the body parts and then he puts electricity into him and then it goes and then he goes, it's alive! Like parts and then he builds the body parts and then he puts electricity into him and then it goes and then he goes it's alive like that and then and then and then as always people

don't trust things they don't understand right so they're fucking pitchfork cunts they go up there they go up there with their torches they their pick forks, and they fucking do him in, they do. The end. What is the significance? Now, you cannot go back and answer another answer, by the way. Sure. What is the significance of the subtitle, The Modern Prometheus? What is the significance of this?

Yeah. That, by today's standards, it's not modern at all. Yeah. Because it's a long time ago. Good one. Beautiful. How does Frankenstein's creation come to life you said with electricity tesla lamps like that that was the first bit of electricity that was rocking it out there and then then edison came in with his light bulbs now remember this is the book so what does frankenstein's creation look like

it originally that mary shelley wrote rob de niro okay they nailed it on that one um how does frankenstein's creation learn about the world um he uh he doesn't know the telly um it would have been through the radio. Okay, that's it? No, the radio. I've gone too early. He didn't have the radio. It would have been books. You would have read some books.

That's the boring bit of the film. Now I'll sit down and read. Oh, Dilbert. I might have jumped that. Okay, well, I'll just... We'll get back to this if we don't get to it. Okay, what is... How does Frankenstein's creation feel about being alive? All for it.

They're happy. Happy about that. Should I just skip ahead to these? No notes on life. What was his other option? Nothing. You got to take what you get. Do the hand you've been dealt, Frankenstein.

You skipped a bunch of questions. I know, but he's. I'm really enjoying it. We'll get to him, but yeah. Okay, what themes are explored in Frankenstein? Love. Yep. Life.

Liberty. Liberty that he wants. What about laugh? No, no. There's no laughter in Frankenstein. Young Frankenstein laughs all day. Did you see that one? I have seen that one.

Okay. It's been a long time. Is that what you're basing your answers on? I haven't seen that since I was about 10. Okay. But I have seen that. I saw it a long time ago too, but I don't know if it has any bearing on Frankenstein. I don't know.

What is the significance of the novel's ending? Well, okay. So originally, Mary Schelling, um well okay so originally mary shelling she wanted it to end um with the monster um going out and getting married bride of frankenstein right um and then they didn't do it they just killed him and that was what was the question uh the significance of the novel. The significance was that was the first time we'd ever had a flesh monster in a film being killed, in a book being killed. Okay. People were amazed. This next question, I'm going to give you a little.

So the question is, what is the legacy of Frankenstein in popular culture? But I'm going to read some. Don wrote this. No, I'll tell you. Those shoes that the Spice Girls wore. Yeah, okay. They'll do your ankles in. Dark curtains. Yeah, those shoes that the Spice Girls wore. Yeah, okay. Right, right? Those ones with the big, they'll do your ankles in,

but without Frankenstein doing big platformy shoes like that, you have no Gary Glitter. You have no Spice Girls, right? Shoulder pads. Shoulder pads in the 80s, they're all Frankenstein inspired. Without him, we just, just falling off the shoulders.

Okay, what I was going to say is, and this is part of your answer, but i'm just going to read it it is in 200 years since the book was published um some say every piece of science fiction sense has followed its general structure man creates monster the monster turns on the creator master destruction can you name some movies that follow this man creates monster monster turns on his creation uh the best one of that would be Star Wars, The Emperor, and Darth Vader. Okay, alright. That's a good one. And Vader's kind of a Frankenstein. Vader's Frankenstein all day and even

breaks out of the thing. What? Oh! Like that, yeah. Darth Vader, all day. What adaptations of Frankenstein have been made into film and television? We just mentioned one. Robert De Niro. Yeah. Young Frankenstein. Original Frankenstein have been made into film and television? We just mentioned one. Robert De Niro. Yeah. Young Frankenstein. Original Frankenstein.

Yeah. There's a Tim Burton one. That was my mom's favorite. The pinball machine monster mash. Yeah, okay. He comes out. He's good. He moves along the board like that. He's good.

In the monsters. He goes up like that. Abbott and Costello. Abbott and Costello did it. Yeah, they did a Frankenstein. I've seen that. That one's good. There's a Tim Burton one, though, that. Abbott and Costello. Abbott and Costello did it. Yeah, they did it. I've seen that. That one's good. There's a Tim Burton one, though, that was like my mom's favorite movie.

One of her favorite movies. It was like his first thing, I think, he ever did. And he did two versions of it. And then he redid it, right? He remade it. I don't know. Okay. We'll get to it.

Frankenweenie. Frankenweenie, yeah. Frankenweenie was one. That's Tim Burton. I love that one. Oh, that wasn't his first film originally I think it was and then he redid it

yeah he did the claymation and then live action yeah he had a black and white his first movie was Pee Wee's Big Adventure

yeah I know crushed it okay Don we'll get some of these other questions we skipped ahead here but 0-10 10 best

how did Jim do about Frankenstein his knowledge? You know, I'm going to give you a solid C. No! I'm going to give a Franken-beans. Is that the middle one, the Franken-beans? Well, we've got to add them all together.

Oh, you're going to add them? Yeah, you're giving them a five. I would say a five. Five, all right. How are you doing confidence? I'm giving him a three on confidence. Why? I was confident.

Why would you be so mean? He's arguing his grade. You heard me ever argue confidence. You can't argue confidence. Yeah, but it's Kelly's grade. I didn't balk on a question. Some would say you balked on all of them. I know everything about Frankenstein.

What more confidence do you need? It's a matter of perspective. You've never argued about confidence ever. I usually give him really good grades, though. It's a matter of perspective. You've never argued about confidence ever. You argue about accuracy. I usually give them really good grades, though. Okay, eight. Look, I'm going to give you a ten, so you're in the Franken-Beans category. Yeah.

That's where you want to be. You don't want to be Franken-Satra. We'll get some after this. You don't want to be Franken, my dear. I don't give a damn. Franken, my dear. Yes. Okay, Franken-Beans.

All right, when was Frankenstein first published? Jim said 1842. 1818. Not bad. But it was published? Jim said 1842. 1818. Not bad. But it was republished in 1831. And I didn't buy the book till 42. Yeah. 1842.

Well, when you were answering, you said you went 17 and then you went 18. And then you thought about it. You go 18. And I was like, oh, you almost got it. Your confidence score, though. You could have edited it. You didn't do a correct answer. So it was re-released in 1831 could have edited it. You didn't do a correct answer. So, wait.

It was re-released in 1831? Mm-hmm. Okay. Same story? Yeah. I mean, the differences are kind of cool. Like, she has, for example, Mary Shelley has the relationship between Victor Frankenstein, which is an answer later, and his love is his first cousin in the 1818 version.

Or was he a bit fey, was he? No, it was just 1818. Why did I assume the cousin was a man? It was a female cousin, but it was still weird. You can have those, right? They're not like doctors. And then the 1831, she rewrote it to make it like an orphan girl that his family had adopted.

That's better than your cousin. She's really political. So she like stuff that we wouldn't have understood in the 1818 and wouldn't understood the change in the 1831. But people who were reading it were like, Oh, she took out references to the key and kite experiment that Benjamin Franklin did because she got mad about the slavery.

And she got all woke and the Mary Shelley fans were like, fuck you. Wokeness ruins entertainment. Go woke, go broke. I'm not buying your fucking much, the book. The story's not going anywhere. I want to fuck my cousin. How dare you?

And she was also anonymous. It was the first publication. Didn't have her name on it because nobody would read a horror novel written by a woman. Why is that? Well, because women were just... It's 1818. Yeah, I know, but I feel like... Yeah, but women's lives are nightmares then. I feel like women like the horror genre

slightly more than men. As consumers, but the idea that a woman's mind and a woman's creative ability just simply couldn't make anything that would frighten a man or would surprise a man or would surprise... Women may want to consume it because they like it but they can never make it. Jim's a feminist he can't

figure this out. Okay alright that's okay I can't see a world where how could they? Where we would judge women like that 1800s long ago these people have come a long way

women out there send Jim your horoscopes Far away. These people have come a long way. Women out there, send Jim your horror scripts. Horror writers. I can't get my own scripts made, but send them to me. I co-wrote a horror movie. A horror script. Really? Yeah.

What was it about? What is the base premise? Does man make a monster that turns on its creator? What's the monster? A lot of people get murdered. Who gets murdered by who? It's a girl. It's a woman who's a murderer all right uh did you write with another woman no that's your problem thank god what is the

full title of the novel mary shelley's frankenstein monster is that it no it is frankenstein or the modern prometheus is the full title modern The Modern Prometheus. And we're jumping ahead. Why was it called the Modern Prometheus? Because they've always been very into, like, what were the ancients doing and the Greeks and the Romans and mythology. So Prometheus was the character who brought fire to man. And the idea is that it's always been a comparison to technology. So whenever we get, as human beings, a brand new tool, a brand new piece of technology,

it is both good and bad, and we tend to fuck with it and destroy each other and do great things. So the Prometheus myth is about how he gets punished for bringing this to man, and Victor Frankenstein is punished for bringing this. I've got another one for you. Weird sides.

For the movies? Weird sides. Oh, I love weird sides. I love weird sides. With the bras. Weird sides. Weird? Oh, I love weird sides. I love weird sides. With the bras. And they even have the movie play when they bring her to life. I've watched the porn parody. Oh, I see.

That was almost enough porn for me when I was young watching that. I watched the porn parody because that movie, when she came through the door, that stirred up some shit in 10-year-old Jim. I tell you. Holy hell. She was just wearing underwear, right? Yeah. It's why I exclusively wear overalls now.

She made an unusual guidepost for what your abdomen is supposed to look like. She had a midriff t-shirt. There was no bra. It was just sort of underboob. That's what it was, a midriff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. It was, yeah.

Sexual awakening. Wait, who was that again? Kelly LeBrock. Because there's Kelly Brock. Kelly LeB Yeah. It was, yeah. Sexual awakening. Wait, who was that again? What? Kelly LeBrock. Because there's Kelly LeBrock. Kelly LeBrock. Yeah, she was good. Oh, she's a good one. I don't care what she looks like now.

I'd have sex with her just because of that movie. So you could be dead. I don't know if she's alive. I think she still looks good. I think she actually saw her recently. I feel like she's still hanging. You have her? She's got some filler, but who doesn't?

Oh, yeah. She's still pretty. Nothing wrong with that. There we some filler, but who doesn't? Oh, yeah. She's still pretty. Nothing wrong with that. There we are, Kelly. Good work, love. Go on. Thank you.

Good for you. What inspired Mary Shelley to write Frankenstein? Jim said she worked with a vet, and they tried to put a leg on something. See, that's why I gave him five. That's why I gave him five. Because, okay, so when you're tits deep in this history and you have read all of the theories and all of the like deconstructions and all the like why did this and she was only 17 when she wrote it oh how does this 17 year old girl come up with a story that is so scary that it's still one of the most read books right on planet earth and

inspired all this science fiction and so you can you would have gotten a lot of correct answers for like it's a god versus man like like blade runner has the creation meeting is god right and having a conversation if you remember that scene where rutger howard goes up and that's a very frankenstein moment because there is a moment in the book where frankenstein's monster he can read he said that he read about the world he did that he read i don't know he could read he could read he reads paradise lost god doesn't like monday yeah it's one of the things that i think the book is so much different than all the movies the creature in the books is really smart he can read he thinks he's complicated emotionally and he comes to his creator and says you fucked up man you made this i'm so gross and

ugly these pitchfork cunts keep coming after me and it's what like how could you do this which some people say is why it came from because mary shelley was an atheist very open atheist over her both of her parents and so the question is how could god like victor frankenstein have made us these humans these gross disgusting slave owning fucking dying of all these gross diseases in london and then just turn his back on us and let us just hump around with all these pitchforks. So that's one theory. The other is she had a shitty dad. So maybe it's a dad, right?

Same deal. You made me. You brought me into creation. Then when you saw how gross I was, you ran away. How gross was she? Well, she ran away from home. You said it, not me. No, it's fair.

She ran away from home with a 21-year-old married patron of her father, walked across Europe for three months and just did drugs and got pregnant and had this crazy summer when she was 16 with a 21-year-old married guy. And this 21-year-old married guy, Percy Shelley, she met him because he was supposed to be giving her dad money. He was her dad's best bet at getting out of financial ruin. He was like her dad's best bet at like getting out of financial ruin. Right. And they were living his ideals of like free love and know God and follow your dreams and we only live once.

And so when she came back from London, he was like, I disown you. I turn my back on you. Once you wake up and start walking around and become a human being, I, your father, said you're disgusting and stopped talking. I know. It's right. Mary Shelley is. Mary Shelley is a bit. She's happy shelly is she's great so drugs lots of opium yeah tons of opium and then and then she yeah and but the other thing you said about the limbs because in 18 early 1800s they don't have edison's lamps and tesla yet but they do have just brand new the ability to like static to hold a charge

and then apply an electric charge to something and the first thing they do is put it on the limbs of dead creatures dead frogs dead humans just to see how an absolutely dead thing can be its arm will fly and it can sit up they do these demonstrations with severed heads these were in london and mary shelley saw some of these they would attach electrodes to the face of a severed head, shock it, and show how the eyes would open up, and it would look around the room and all this creepy stuff. So people were thinking, it probably is only a matter of time before electricity revives the dead. And it was one of the things that made the book so popular, one of the things that made it so scary. That this could happen.

It's like Jurassic Park. Yeah, yeah. The idea that we were like, oh yeah, we just clone stuff. It's probably just a matter of time before we clone dinosaurs and then the dinosaurs take over and then we're all done. How long are we waiting

for this clone fucking dinosaur, by the way? They've cloned all the other animals. Like, okay, so there's a guy, there's a polo player and the whole team of horses are the same horse, right?

Yeah, I remember that. Oh, right. Yeah, it was on 60 Minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this guy cloned it. And so like, what's her name um that singer the uh she sings uh memories like the corners she cloned a couple of her pets after they died cost like 30 grand or something she wanted the pets back so and we we started off with a couple of sheep dolly the sheep right fucking give? Fucking give me a Tasmanian tiger, like something that's been extinct.

Because they have one of them in alcohol, just like a fetus of one, right? Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they have that. Give me one. Bring back something. It doesn't need to be a dinosaur. Yeah, don't do it to me.

Just give me a fucking dodo or something. Yeah, I'm with you. I think they've seen the movie. And they're like... Oh, yeah, the dodos are going to take over. What are the good ones that died because they were stupid? Not because of a meteorite. Yeah, the Tasmanian tiger you wouldn't do.

Those are scary, right? As someone who played one in a movie... Yeah. You were friendly in that movie. You're the expert about that. I did. So I feel like I had to get in the mind of one of them. It was very tricky.

No, they're more like dogs that got stripy backs. And they like to sing. Yeah, they sang songs. Go watch the movie Extinct. I think the cloning is as much the, like that was the 90s Frankenstein science. And right now people are having the same conversations about AI. That we've created this thing.

We think we can control that's going to solve a problem for us, but we're not ready for when it becomes self-aware and has hopes and dreams of its own. People already say that, like, they go, oh, computers are going to take over. I would argue they already have. Like, we walk around with a computer in our hand all the time,

and if we don't have it with us, we feel incomplete as a person or that we're missing out on something. I turned off my social media and stuff for the first couple of weeks when my special came out, you know, just for mental sanity. And it takes a few days. And then, like, by day three, you just go, oh, fuck. It's like you've fallen out of a dream. You're like, what the fuck have I been doing?

Life is just putting catnip on your pants well you found the meaning of life that's it that's a day it is that's a day i did something similar i just like my i've curated my social media so carefully over the past couple years that it is exclusively rescuing dogs from rain gutters reunited people haven't seen each other in forever random acts of kindness and every time i'm scrolling it is just a it is joy and bliss and happy and reunions and if it makes me unhappy my wife's a vegan so all she sees is animals being whipped to death no i don't know look i'm the same way my my algorithm is perfect like nothing about social media makes me upset or feel like I need

to compare myself to people. It's just like, here's a cute puppy. And when the computers are like, what is she into? They're like, she's into good stuff. She's into happy stuff.

Let's give her more of that. I get a lot of suggested women with big tits and I haven't. That's so weird. I haven't Googled it. Yeah. But they know.

That's bizarre. I said joyless. I've never gone in there. I don't even in my porn searches You should probably go Right now your phone Just heard you talking About Kelly LeBrock

So it's like My brother reckons Yeah that that happens Thunder boob This is how Like my brother reckons That he goes When his wife's in the shower

He stands next to his wife's phone And just says Golf balls Around Christmas Because that's all he wants Because you know You can always use golf balls Right And I'm like that's how

you're using the internet like just to get just buy yourself a box of golf balls man or google it just go ahead who is the protagonist of the novel Dr. Frankenstein Jim says that's fair that's again that's a solid five answer it's Victor Frankenstein

in the books but it's not Elvin. No, but the movie it's not Victor. It's something more western. Yeah, I don't remember Victor Frankenstein. No, I forgot what they did in the movie but it's not Victor. So this was set in London. We're about to jump to that question. Switzerland.

Most of it's in Switzerland. But she's from London. She's from London. But she just done her opening tour of Switzerland. Yeah, I think it's just, you know, a slightly more exotic for her. And that's a place of education. Like, that's where the medical school is in Ingolstadt. Also, lots of hills for pitchforks to walk up. And I got a story for you later.

Where's she from in London? She does a ton of drugs in Switzerland. That's probably where it came from. How dare you? In London, her house, this is part of where someone you said, where did the story come from? She, like death all around her. I mean,

it's London in early 1800s, but she could see the execution blocks from her bedroom window. She could see the bodies of Newgate prison. What neighborhood did she live in?

A bunch of executions. She was super poor. What suburb was she in in London? I don't remember the exact neighborhood, but it was kind of, she lived with-

Zone one? Did you have to get the tube? I don't remember the exact neighborhood. But it was kind of, it was, she lived with. Zone one? Did you have to get the tube? I don't know. I'm telling you, the tube was probably just. You Google when the tube started, man. It's fucking insane. Somebody else. Brunel made all the tunnels and stuff.

It's like, that's a good podcast. The London tube is really fucking old. Yeah, I know it's old, but I didn't think it was. 1863. Oh, okay. Yeah. It was earlier than I old. Yeah, I know it's old, but I didn't think it was 1863. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's earlier than I thought. Yeah, yeah. And his name was Heinrich or Henry von Frankenstein in the movie.

Henry. Henry. That's right. In which movie? The first one, probably. The first one? Yeah, the first one. There's so many.

1931 film. And then the antagonist in the novel, is it cancel culture? No. Well, it is in a way. That's another big argument. People are literally split down the middle into whether the hero of the novel is it cancel culture well it is in a way that's another big argument people are literally split down the middle into whether the hero of the story is victor frankenstein or the monster depends on who you're feeling more yeah i always get i you know i i already knew that the monster is not called frankenstein and then my head always goes back

to that because when we were saying frankenberries i'm like yeah yeah that's can i let you off the hook with that though like as the frankenstein expert let me let you off the it's okay if you call the monster frankenstein you won't hear me do it because i can't like it's a mental thing but it's absolutely okay because the that switch of like calling the because the monster somewhat famously in the book doesn't have a name and it's part of his sadness it's part of why he is who he is is because he never is named he's never called anything the creature the monster my hideous thing like that's thing but while mary shelley was alive there was a political cartoon that compared like ireland or something that was happening with frankenstein's but and they

write they show the guy and then they say frank Frankenstein. And she doesn't say shit about it. So like, if the author saw something misnamed, he was misnamed and she didn't give a shit. So like, I think people can pump the brakes.

How long did she live? She lived until her late 50s. She died probably of a brain tumor. That's not bad. We don't know. That's not bad back then.

Did she make any money off this? Oh yeah. She was never rich. Yeah. She was never rich. But who make any money off this? Oh, yeah. She was never rich. Yeah. She was never rich. But who's making the money now? Like, how does... Well, it's the copyright.

You know what I mean? You can buy... You can pay somebody to give you the hard copy, but it's... You can... That's part of the reason why it's so... It's so red. Yeah. So, wait a minute.

So, the doctor was in love with his cousin? Yeah. And then that was the brain of a female cousin was put into it? No, that was, I think you're thinking about the Steve Martin movie. That has something about a brain. No, actually, it's significant that Victor Frankenstein never tries to bring anyone in particular back from the dead, even after he sees that he can do it.

He never tries to give himself immortality. Lots of people die. Like the creature kills a lot of his friends and family, and he never like does like a pet cemetery scenario where he like tries to bring them back. So there's, it seems like he sort of equates this like once dead tissue. It's just a thing. So why did he bring this, the creature?

Pure ambition. Yeah, but we thought his cousin would be like I'm gonna suck his dick no his cousin was already on board with dick sucking and she was a sure thing

but he's you know he's gotta make his fortune so he goes to medical school and he's very ambitious and he's kind of like he doesn't make friends you were right about that he does have one good friend

but he dies he doesn't make friends he doesn't make friends but his professors he says things like, I think I know how we could revive dead tissue and do this crazy change humanity forever and bring the dead to life.

And his professors sort of dress him down and are like, no, you're thinking about the elixir of life. This is like an ancient fool's errand. You're done. It can't be done. So he, all alone in isolation, attempts these things that he thinks are possible with electricity electricity digging up

the bodies of the dead piecing them together and when the creature finally wakes up he's like and hides oh he doesn't yell it's alive no he's terrified once the creature first just moves victor runs away and thinks that the creature is like a low battery life like it's just gonna wander out there and then die on its own and he like goes about his life for years then he realized he is getting letters home and they're like your little brother has been murdered and there's all this chaos because the creature became self-aware like watched people long enough learned to read and in this like interim time got fucking pissed because he's like, I have pitchfork cunts coming after me all the time.

That was long before the end. He has to live in the dark all the time. He's watching enough of humanity to know nobody else is quite like me. He reads notes he finds in the pockets of his clothes that explain, he figures out that somebody brought him to life. How did he earn money? He steals stuff and hides. He kills people.

He didn't go work at Rolex? No, he doesn't. I am a technician. No, big and tall shop, model. He can't, there's no avenue for him to make money. Why Rolex? Because it's Switzerland. I'm just speaking of Swiss companies.

That was the only job at Switzerland. Or a chocolate shop. Egg and chocolate maker. I wouldn't be great at that. Chocolate tea. He does work for people for free out of the kindness of his heart at night. Banker? Wait, what does he do at night?

He sees this farm family and they're so nice to each other and he sees what love is and so he hides in their shed and he tills their fields and he cuts wood for them. And they wake up in the morning, they think it's a guardian angel. They're like, oh my God, whoever is doing this is saving our lives. Then he got caught masturbating in a field. Yeah. And then they were like, yeah, cancel, cancel. Cancel culture.

Pitchforks. But then a blind man, he comes. This is, I think, in the movie. He approaches a blind man and says, and it's like, it says to him, I'm scared because I'm about to go see some friends and I'm afraid they're going to hate me and think I'm really ugly and scary.

And the old man's like, hey, I'm sure they're going to be great. And you're kind of like, oh, the creature's going to have a friend. And then the friend and then the kids are any movies that are close to the book like it seems like none of them are no is it just one body or is it all body parts body parts body parts there's there's he pieces together various things but the the culminated creature is generally just bigger than a normal guy you You got to get the same size legs. You do have to get two of the same legs. He was super tall.

The only visible description that Mary Shelley puts in is that he's taller than an average man. He's got yellow watery eyes and black stringy hair and rotted skin. Oh, stringy hair. He doesn't have that little haircut. He doesn't have the nice bald. No fade. He doesn't have a flat head. No. And no bolts. She doesn't have that little haircut he doesn't have a nice bolt no nice no fade he doesn't have a flat head no and no bolts she doesn't mention anything about what's really we can jump ahead to that i mean that was the description of him so i mean you said i gotta

have the bolts yeah we're fine to jump around but that's so where does all that come from though why do they have the bolts and this is all just well because that's the other thing she's super vague about in the book when she says how you bring a dead guy to life, like what is the science behind it? All that Victor Frankenstein says is, I gathered the instruments of life around me that I may infuse a spark of being into this lifeless thing that lay at my feet. That's it. So we don't know if it's a Tesla coil or a voltaic pile or in Kenneth Branagh's bullshit film he uses electric eels. Was there a big switch? She doesn't even say if there's a switch.

Because I know a little bit about electricity. You can light something with a small switch. I've never understood the big kapook. Down like that. Boom, boom, boom, boom. You can set off a nuclear weapon with a button. Yeah, wire breakers are always these giant handles. Yeah, it just matters.

For movies, I wouldn't be like, click, we got Frankenstein. And that's the movie, right? Because 1931. Did he have a clapper? I'd say, hey. He's alive! So the setting was Switzerland, not London? Victor Frankenstein's from Switzerland.

He travels around to Scotland. He builds another creature because the creature demands, when they meet and they talk, he says, make me a woman. He says, I think I wouldn't be such a bad guy if I had something like me. He wants a woman. He does want to be made into a woman. No. It wasn't that progressive.

He may not have been a good guy. I need a companion. For the same reason you said Why the clones don't work Because you've got to have more than one thing To make the cycle I only want one Tasmanian tiger Then we'll watch it die And then we'll go that was fun

Terrible existence Over time we'll go visit it in the zoo No because your Tasmanian tiger Is going to rise up against you Challenge your creation and cause mass destruction I think Tasmania is going to rise up against you, challenge your creation, and cause mass destruction. I think Tasmania is going to do that against Australia. I've got the resources. Yeah, I think they'll rise up, the Tasmanians.

They'll all come on boats one day. Enough with the inbred jokes. So you've talked a lot about the plot, but since we get more into it, so the significance of the subtitle, we get more into it the so the significance of the subtitle we already mentioned that right the um it comes to life how he looks like i'm just going through oh so he learns about the world from books jim said radio and a boring bit of the film what yeah no i changed radio i went books yeah a little bit where you just and then you you sat down for an hour and you read a book that answer was significant for your points all right yeah he did he read he not only did he read books he read paradise lost which is milton's story of kind of god and creation which mary shelley's very fond of

okay um did he ever go see a show west end musical or anything like that sadly no i don't think he got to the theater oh hamilton he did watch a lot of animals fuck, though. He was a vegetarian because he didn't want to cause harm to animals. He didn't want to hurt anything. He was a really peaceful, calm guy. He lived in peace with all of the creatures, and that was kind of when he observed,

boy, there's two of everything. Everything has a companion but me, and that's why he comes to Victor and says, make me a woman. You keep saying he's a peaceful guy, but my next question is, what happens to Frankenstein's family as a result? And you said he murdered some of them.

Yeah, because they fucked him over, man. Exactly. It was the pitchfork guns that kind of started it all. Because when he goes to this farm family, and he thinks, now I've done so much kindness for them. And they've articulated how much whoever it was helped. They would have had so many pitchforks. It would have been beautiful.

I know. And they chase him off. And then he comes back. He tries to give him a second chance because he's like, I don't have any lips. I'm super scary. I'm going to come back and forgive them. But they've like fled forever. And he gets mad.

And that's that like kind of classic hero turned good guy turned bad, right? If they struggle enough, if they get persecuted enough. And he says to Victor, when he says, make me a woman, he woman he says i was really good guy and misery made me a fiend make me happy and i will again be peaceful and and it is because he doesn't kill anyone in the farm family but he destroys their house destroys their fields and then he it happens upon frankenstein's younger brother and murders him frames another woman for the crime. She gets executed. And then when he says, make me a woman, Victor says he will.

But then he kills the woman, destroys her, starts to bring her to life, destroys her. And that's when the creature really gets. Why does Victor get rid of the woman? He has a romantic novel, Come to Jesus, where he agrees. He digs up the woman. He's about to give her life. And he goes, hang on. Right.

What if this woman rejects him? He's already super scary and dangerous when he's mad he could go completely insane and destroy everybody or what if she's like just as fucking nuts as he is and these two now i got two of these so he destroys her and the creature says i'll see you on your wedding night oh exactly kind of a code you a COVID. You're like, great. I don't understand. Brought him a gift. Yeah. And Victor is like, okay, so you're going to kill me. You're going to wait until I get married, and you're going to kill me on my wedding

night. So it's all the more tragic. Well, I married my cousin, so the joke's over. Yeah. Everybody wins. But he tricks on him because he kills his bride. You know what he should do? He should kill him 20 years after he gets married, so he has real misery in his life.

Oh, yeah. Give him a chance. Give him a chance. Give him a chance. Actually, there's this great moment. He killed his bride, you said? He does, yeah. On the wedding night? He kills his bride on his wedding night.

But there's a moment. And then after that, Victor goes to the graveyard after his wife is dead and his little brother's dead. And he's like, he knows he kind of sent all this going. And he prays, give me just enough life. Let me live just long enough to avenge these loved ones of mine and the creature appears in the graveyard and whispers in his ear that now we can really start this fight because i needed you to want to live so that when i killed you it was a bigger deal to

you because right now i know you're you'd love you'd welcome death now let's dance and he takes off and says chase me oh I love it I love yeah none of the movies are I mean by the way there's somebody at home

listening to this right now he's gonna read the book now he fucking ruined it yeah spoiler sorry he only has 210 years and I'm sorry super sorry

or you've seen Penny Dreadful and this doesn't make any sense at all wait Penny Dreadful I think we're getting to that right

yeah no Frankenstein's monster, yeah. Google the picture of De Niro as Frankenstein for me. Don't do it. I want to see Forrest's reaction because it's going to upset him. I haven't seen either. Helena Bonham Carter's in this

and I love her so much. Yeah, I like her too. She's so bad. I love everyone in this movie and it's the worst thing that's ever happened. You've talked a lot about, I'm going through the questions I wouldn't even ask,

like the role of nature. No, it's good. The role of science. Forrest, it doesn't even look like the normal dude. Does he have yellow watery eyes? He looks like he got in a car accident or something. Oh, Kenneth. Oh, Kenneth. And I would have been totally fine with any version of Frankenstein,

from Frankenweenie to Young Frankenstein. I am not a purist. But Kenneth Branagh had to put Mary Shelley's Frankenstein as the title of this movie. And that made me, it makes me more itchy. Yeah. And someone's getting money that not Mary Shelley. Word, right? Yeah. I don't know. Mary Shelley's had kids. Was Frankenstein an actual surname? You know, my understanding is that it was. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And then she ruined it. It's like Hitler was a surname. Exactly. Exactly. I don't think that the Frankensteins have sort of a la young Frankenstein been the Franks for some time. We are now called Mr. and Mrs. Frank. Back in the old country, we all called Frankenstein to that bitch Mary. Fucked it

up for my family. Ruined the good Frankenstein name. I just put in a random name, Daniel Frankenstein and it comes up with a guy who's like a tech CEO. A tech CEO? A what? A tech CEO? Tech CEO.

Oh, tech CEO. Yeah. David Frankenstein. It'd be a good drag name or like drag king name. Yeah. So the significance of the ending of the novel? Do you know how it ends? I don't know how it ends.

Yeah, he kills... Now you're definitely going to ruin it for people. I know, sorry. But I'm also giving you all a solid C on your next English class. This is what I predict. I predict he kills Dr. Victor Frankenstein, and then he goes, that was all I had going on in my life was hating him.

You know what I mean? That was my motivation. Now I have no motivation. And then he starts a podcast. Oh, you know what? You just got a six. Your score just went from a five to a six. Oh, good, good, good.

Yeah, because he doesn't kill Victor Frankenstein, but he does sit next to him and watch him die. Because Victor, they go on this sort of cat and mouse pursuit up to the North Pole, which is significant in 1818 because- After he's killed his bride? Mm-hmm. Why is he still hanging out with this guy? No, he's chasing him.

Oh, he's chasing him. Oh, he's chasing. So the cat is now the mouse. So Victor is now chasing the creature to try to kill him because he killed his bride. And the creature is heading up to the North Pole, but he leaves him food and fresh dogs because he's like, come on, come on. Like, I want you to catch me.

And the North Pole makes a difference because it's like Mars right now. Like, it is the furthest, most remote place on Earth. Human beings are just trying. And nobody got to the North Pole until like 40 years after this book was published. But we knew it was cold, right? We knew it was cold.

And we kept trying and we kept getting stuck and our ships would get destroyed and like are there monsters up there like what is up on the north pole we didn't know and so this is why it's science fiction because people are trying to get up there people are shocking dead bodies with electricity but this is the fiction part right so victor frankenstein and the creature get all the way up to this north furthest as people have gotten and there's a ship frozen in that finds them. And that's why we hear this story. Because the ship's captain telling his sister about this guy he found on the ice.

And then it's flashback. The book is a lot of flashback. Does Frankenstein not feel the cold? He doesn't apparently. No. And he takes really good care of his sled dogs. Anyway. So he, Victor Frankenstein then.

You really like the creature. Can you tell? Why don't you marry him? He's not a bad guy. I mean, he murders a lot of people. And I have a day job at Universal Studios Hollywood, the entertainment capital of LA, and I work with the guy who plays the creature on the lot,

you know, the guy who walks around in the suit, and I am starstruck. Like, I see a lot of celebrities at work, but I see him, and i sit in and out of costume i'm like i love how you take care of sled dogs i have a season pass i'll come visit you oh do do do um i'm up in the new york window she's on the window she does the characters that heckle you as you go by yeah i was there with dj last week and i was like you should he should do that job did you and calls go to Yeah, he got a season pass.

Oh, it's so fun. Has he seen the special yet? I don't know. Okay, well, because DJ Qualls, I do a whole story about him in my special, and I haven't heard from him back yet. I don't know if he's happy or sad. I'm sure he's fine. But he knows that bit, though.

Oh, he knows that I'm doing it. Because the lawyers from Netflix said, hey, you'll have to get DJ to sign a contract. And so I rang DJ up and I said, hey, I'm talking about you in the special. Can you sign a contract to say you're cool? And he goes, I'm not going to sue you, man. I love you.

I told that story at Comic-Con. You do him well. You do. It was really good. So it ends in the North Pole then? It ends. So the creature watches Victor North Pole then? It ends. So the creature watches Victor die and then says,

I shall now consume myself in flame so that no other shall attempt to make a creature such as I have been. Oh, and he does that on the snow. You know what I think? This is my theory, Jim. This is what I've always wanted to do. That's Shelly New Fuck All in the North Pole. A lot of drugs. It's hard to get wood. But my theory is that he does not kill himself

because it's sort of a Hamlet thing where it turns out, again, why I gave you points, he loves life. He works at Universal now. He loves it. He's got a great gig. It's like Monday through Friday. He does love life.

He sees peace and love in these animals and he has a reason to live and I think he goes out on the ice and just is still in the North Pole. Ice capades. He does live life. He sees peace and love in these animals, and he has a reason to live, and I think he goes out on the ice and just is still in the North Pole. Ice capades. Ice capades. I think that he's the reason everybody makes it up there. He's the reason we're all in this.

Frankenstein and the Bonneville Snowman. I think he's still there. I think he's still there. He's the Yeti now. Yeah, maybe he's the Yeti. So the legacy of Frankenstein and popular culture. Man creates a monster. The monster turns on the creator.

Did we already think Santa lived there? No, that wasn't until much later. Santa living at the North Pole. It's going to be a good buddy comedy. Yeah, he kills the people that have been bad. You're on the naughty list. Krampus. So Jim said Star Wars.

Is that an example of Frankenstein and popular culture? Man creates a monster. The monster turns on the creator and mass destruction. I like it. It's not one of my top five, but I like it. Because yeah, the emperor... He throws the emperor down the hole.

And Darth Vader is pieced together and kept alive artificially. So I buy it. I think the Matrix, Jurassic Park... Wait, the Matrix? I like the best. The Matrix is... Because we create artificial intelligence.

Is it a Jesus analogy, right? For sure. Yeah. A savior, yeah. The hero, the one. But it's also like mankind created the machines or like terminator terminator is a perfect uh frankenstein story too that our creation glit like did something unexpected that spark of life that thing that uh malcolm talks about in jurassic park which is you think you know what life is about we're so

arrogant to think that we can just create these things. Or even that mediocre movie with Will Smith, I Am Legend. Oh, yeah. That was the one we used to talk about because the idea is we created a cure for cancer

that turns on its creator and turns us all into these flesh-eating zombies. And so you said Jurassic Park is another example. Weird science. Well, and also it's a guy working on an island he literally digs up the bodies of the dead infuses a spark of life that is modern technology that they turn into monsters you wrote here covet though too yeah because the ideas we

made it yeah right because we made it in a lab i mean that's the theory like how they and and it's just that idea of playing god that we create we we play god we think that we can mess around with creation and destruction without uh i'll tell you what movie to watch now that we've done covid because i just stumbled upon it on hbo one day type of thing i was in a hotel contagion or yeah and it's got like kate winslet it's got jude law it's got all these things they fucking called loads of shit. They called the masks, the social distancing, the this, the that. They called the vaccine deniers. It was like a playbook of the whole thing.

Very good. And so, yeah, and obviously it's still popular today, like just Halloween. I mean, just in general. Well, the monster. The monster. Yeah, still. What adaptations of Frankenstein have been made in film and television? Robert De Niro,

Young Frankenstein, Monster Mash, Abner Costello. There's a bunch. You said Frankenweenie. I love Monster Squad. I like Monster Squad because he's a nice guy and he befriends a little girl and they make him a hero, which I appreciate. I've never seen Penny Dreadful. I wasn't a fan. Who's the actor who always

played him in the films? Boris Karloff. Boris Karloff. Boris Karloff. He was the guy that was hanging out with Ed Wood right? Yeah. Yeah okay.

And then the Munster I thought you were talking about the Munsters because the Munsters was just a rip off of the Addams Family so the Addams Family was famous

because there was this whole there was this whole network TV thing where they're like Bewitched I Dream of Jeannie Petty Coat Junction,

Beverly Hillbillies. They just copied each other like the things. But the monsters, I think I like the monsters more than Adam's family because it had the hot daughter. Well, he's also,

he's also the creature in the, you know, the guy that plays the creature, but he's scared. He's not like a fierce, like he's always afraid of everything. He's like, oh, someone's always afraid of everything. He's like,

oh, someone's at the door. So I was like, yeah, I just know that from the pinball machine. And then he went on to be, like he was, and then he was in Pet Sematary.

He was in Pet Sematary, yeah. Pet Sematary, that's right. Yeah, which is Frankenstein. Yeah, right.

Death is better. Yeah, that's a Frankenstein. For sure. It's King, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's Stephen King, but I don't remember that actor's name. He was also in My Cousin Vinny. For sure. It's King, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's Stephen King, but I don't remember that actor's name.

He was also in My Cousin Vinny. Is that what you were going to say? Oh, I know. He was the judge in My Cousin Vinny. I can't remember his name. What a great face. I assume he's dead. Love him.

He's got to be dead. Make it an assumption. What's that guy's name? Judge in My Cousin Vinny. If not, I'm booking him for something. You're going to Google the judge in My Cousin Vinny rather than the dad from the Munsters? You're going to do a deep cut on this group? I didn't Google at all.

Oh, there I am. Dad, Munsters. All right. I predict that he died in 1998. Fred Gwynn is his name. Fred Gwynn. What year do you think he died? 1998.

Close. 1993. He's been dead a while. He died right after Pet Sematary. Yeah, right after My Cousin Vinny, eh? Yeah, he was born in 1926. He was not terrible looking when he was younger. He was a little bit.

No, he, My Cousin Vinny. He grew into a monster. Yeah, his last movie was Lincoln. It was The Voice of Lincoln. It's a TV movie. But his last movie was My Cousin Vinny in 1992. Oh, I did it. I used to do a tv movie but his last movie was my cousin minnie in 1992 oh i did it i used to bring remember i used to do a lincoln routine about his voice because there's no

recordings of lincoln but we always assume that he's like four score and seven years ago but he could have been really camp like four score seven years ago come on free the slaves he was very tall very thin yeah but like like I'm just saying, there's a voice that has been brought to Lincoln that everyone does now. Yeah. It's the Lincoln voice. The Hall of President's voice.

Well, therefore, bar. The Monsters. How many episodes of The Monsters do you think there was? 182. 72. That's not enough. Charlie Monster, he played. There should have been more.

He really did. All right, so this is the time of our podcast called Dinner Party Facts. We asked our guests to give some obscure interesting fact that the audience can use to impress people. Already what you said about the pacemaker would have been one. That's your appetizer. This is my very favorite. All of them. You just said he fucking burned himself to death on the North Pole.

You didn't know that. But if you read the book, you would have known that. I know. I would have been like, get the fuck out of here. That's how it is. That's what I'm saying. For people that don't have it, I've never read the book. I read it in school and forgot how many different beats there are.

If you dressed as Halloween, as Frankenstein, you had flames coming off you and the bottom half of you was ice, people would be like, you've lost your fucking mind. I would run around and scream. I would be so excited about this costume like that i actually wrote it when she was 17 but okay so i accidentally smoked opium when i was 17 and i don't think i had a single thought let alone creating a masterpiece i thought you were smoking weed i would say that's the problem you only did it once if you really want to generate a classic you have to do it for you gotta run away with a

married guy you gotta run away with a married guy and do it all day, every day. I was visiting my brother in college. I wrote my last special on heroin. Because everyone gets into me for giving up drinking. Not as funny, you know, giving up drinking. So I'm on heroin now, everyone. Just putting it out there. Next special is going to be a big old junkie.

So you think I've lost my edge? I'm a smacker. Oh, what a treat. I carry a spoon with me. My spoon, my heroin spoon. For your Franken beans. There was one time we took mushrooms and we were going to write jokes. Do you remember that?

Yeah. And then we got sharpies. Every time. But then the next day you're like, what the fuck does this even say? Just a scribble. I actually was very excited because when I saw you last time at Flappers, there were milligrams of THC flying around. I felt like such a Mary Shelley moment of like, oh, yeah, just proper opium. I mean, it wasn't opium, unfortunately.

You weren't sure what it was. I knew what it was. I just didn't know where it went. You just had like random pills. You're like, this is THC. I think this is five milligrams. I think this is 25. Yeah, I was like, no, because I was trying a new material.

You said the bigger they are, the lower the dose. We were trying to compare the sizes. I've got this thing now. I've got this vial that's got 1,000 milligrams in it, and each drop is 20 milligrams. Oh, jeez. Each drop. So I put a drop in my drink yesterday, just like that, right?

And I was like, that's not going to work. I was high as fire. You got to tell me what that is. Send me a picture of it. I was thinking of putting it on my tongue, but what if I accidentally go drop, drop? Oh, no. Yeah, that's 40.

You would buckle up. You become one with the couch. And you can't spit it. Like, it drops. It's in there. It's not in your bloodstream. I dropped it in the water. Actually, well, what you do is you write a ghost story.

But how do they make it so small? How do they get so much weed concentrate i i tried this is not the mountain bike podcast um there's a guy i was telling i heard it i'm gonna steal some of that guy's jokes so dinner party fact. What do you got, Dawn? Okay. So everybody asked Mary Shelley in her lifetime, where did this idea come from? Because it was the scariest, coolest thing that anyone had read.

And she told them, and it was fairly understood that there was this crazy summer on Lake Geneva in a castle with Lord Byron, her half-sister Claire, her 21-year-old married poet Percy, and her. So it's the four of them in this castle, and they're doing tons of opium, and they're reading ghost stories, and they're freaking each other out because it's the Romantic era, and they're atheists, and it's crazy. There's also this crazy thunderstorm that set the weather system off. So most of the nights they were there were these dark and stormy nights.

Lord Byron proposes a challenge that everybody at this party take a little opium and write a new ghost story, bring a new story into the world. And she is that. I went away that night and I wrote the first draft of like this medical student dug up the bodies of the dead and it woke up and it scared me and it scared everybody. That's in the introduction of the book. It's common knowledge. Here's the dinner party fact at that lake geneva summer there's one other guy at the party and his name is paula dory and he's lord byron's personal physician he's like michael jackson's doctor like he's mostly there to just keep him high right and he's got a huge crush on mary shelly this is part of the reason why you know it was there

because his diary is full of all this like what mary shelly did that weekend and where she was going and what she was wearing and shit right he is like oh we're all writing ghost stories okay i'll go away and he writes the first western story of dracula he writes the first version ever of a vampire that is not just a hairy ghoulie like wolfman beast which was the only way that you had ever encountered a vampire creature prior to this night was just like a guy in a suit with a no suit no suit no watch no letter jacket nothing just like a just a vampire was just a toothy monster that lived in the woods and ripped your head off he palidori writes about a vampire that is rich and handsome and lives in a castle and women

are like willing victims and he doesn't rip your head off he like bites you right ah there or like oh on your wrist and and later bram stoker in 1867 writes in his bibliography that he read this short story called the vampire and that was where he got part of the idea they trace this short story back to lord byron's house so everyone's like oh lord byron must have written this vampire story then palidori who's still alive comes out and says not only did i write that vampire story but the character is based on lord byron because that piece of shit had every venereal disease on earth which he knew because he was his doctor right and he would seduce these peasant women these lower born women in droves and he'd bring them

back to their castle to his castle and paludory said he'd watch these women leave the next day knowing that they were probably gonna die from whatever disease he'd given them or they were never gonna have living children and he thought byron was a monster a horrible handsome debonair piece of shit that killed these women slowly but what it means is that on one dark and stormy night, Frankenstein and Dracula were conceived of and written down in the same house at the same time. Yeah, that's fucking crazy.

Whoa. On drugs. On drugs. Yeah, and the moral is like, do drugs. Drugs are good. Don't go driving. That's right up there. Yeah.

What do you mean right up there? That's our best dinner party fact ever. That's blowing my mind. Would you say it's history you'd like to fuck? It's history I have fucked. I've left it wanting more. That is Don's podcast. Health, a history I like to fuck so if you want to hear more

of Don's cool entertaining things, follow that podcast, it's on all the platforms I'm assuming, right? yeah, all of them and then on Instagram, at Don underscore Brody or at Hilf podcast for the podcast as well and Brody is B-R-O-D-E-Y.

Yep. Thanks. That was awesome. Thanks for being here. Oh, man. Thanks for having me. This was fun. That was so good.

Yeah. I love that one. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. And more monsters, man. Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen, you ever had a party and someone comes up to you and

goes, Lord Byronron he had a clean dick well i don't know about that walk away good night australia i love that song go to party you never had a clean dick