I Don't Know About That - KFC

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Guy Hutchinson (@guyhutchinson) put Jim's deep fried knowledge to the test. Check out Guy's YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/guyhutchinson ADS: BetterHelp: Visit www.betterhelp.com/IDK today to get... 10% off your first month. NetSuite: Right now, download NetSuite’s popular KPI Checklist, designed to give you consistently excellent performance - absolutely free, at www.NetSuite.com/IDK

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Starting point is 00:01:26 probably they're all winners I don't know about that Jim Jefferies Jack had a pizza on his shirt and that got me going and then I thought
Starting point is 00:01:39 oh what else is there and that's all I came up with you've got to you've got to remember to put out your fires forest fires remember only only you i've got this thing protect me a year or two ago grumpy person it's only little because it's meant for dwarfs there's one dwarf you can buy the rest of them sleepy person ahead doctor ahead bashful brilliant yeah yeah i forget the other ones how's that that going? Okay, so the Snow White thing.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Our friend Amos, he's obsessed with this, right? So the movie's not doing well. And I believe there's another company making another Snow White at the same time. There's two competing- I don't know anything about this. There's something like- What's happening? There's some wokeness going on with the Snow White that people are very unhappy with.
Starting point is 00:02:22 People get very unhappy if you change a character, even if you haven't bothered to watch or give a shit about this character forever. A lot of people were very unhappy with The Little Mermaid because her bottom half was tuna and it was meant to be salmon. A lot of people didn't know that. Wait, is that a real...
Starting point is 00:02:39 No, it's because she was African-American. I know, I know. I was like, wait, that could be something that's so stupid. Yeah, the bottom half is tuna. I could see the internet getting mad about that, though. She's very clearly half salmon. She swims upstream. Has sex. We don't say this, don't live in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. She has a freshwater tail in a saltwater world. Or is she in a saltwater world with a freshwater tail um i mean i remember we did we did we did a film piece of the jim jeffrey show about people changing the change and now i i somewhat have changed my mind on this a little bit i'm like yeah let's just come up with other characters it seems to be annoying too many people and it doesn't really matter we did a thing at comic-con about a guy who got really angry about like the being a
Starting point is 00:03:25 superman but a female for me and you were talking the other day about uh 1960s so 1960s we can talk about this yeah yeah right so so what's his name uh who's the director uh nolan christopher nolan is redoing uh james bond yeah but he's going back to the 1960s. So I guess that means Idris Elba's not got the job. Yeah, yeah. Probably. Right? If he did, he wouldn't get a lot of respect.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah, yeah. It's nothing against Idris Elba. It's just the 60s were the 60s. The Civil Rights Movement was still going on. It's like M's going to go, Bond, I need you to infiltrate this country club. Maybe through the workers. I don't know if I could. He pulls up on your ass and Martin throws him the keys. What are you throwing me the keys for?
Starting point is 00:04:10 You park it. You're the valet. Yeah, it wouldn't be it wouldn't be getting a lot. There'd be a lot. And I think Idris would be a very good James Bond, but not if we go back to the 1960s. Yeah, that's a little rough.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Money Penny might accuse him for something we go back to the 1960s. No, that's a little rough. Get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Money Penny might accuse him for something if he talks to her too long. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Who was supposed to play him now, then? There was some... Well, they're talking like Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy.
Starting point is 00:04:39 The guy, the Chris Cavalieri. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Superman. Superman. And Henry. Look, I have no problem with him changing race or changing sex. I don't even mind a female James Bond. I've got no problem with that.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But you still have to be British. Yeah. That's what you were saying. Yeah, no Americans. Yeah, but what about your George Lazenby guy? Australian. Very close to British. But not British.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah, well. Yeah, but he was living in London at the time. Don't get into George. I'm just following. Look, you just set the rule. I just, I mean, I was playing. You said the other day, you said British. It could be, because what's his name?
Starting point is 00:05:17 It was Scottish, right? Sean Connery was Scottish. Scottish, yeah. Timothy Dalton's Welsh. Got to be a Commonwealth. Yeah, well, no, they're all great britain and then australian and he sort of you know but i was playing the the james bond pinball machine the other day and there was there was gorgeous george man on the playing field i was like that
Starting point is 00:05:35 guy played my dad that's money yeah that's cool um we uh had some good shows that was about a week a little over a week ago now with new y and Hershey. It was good. Yeah, Hershey was good. We went and visited the Chocolate Factory. Yeah. It's no lint. It's no lint. Yeah. It is no lint.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And they do this show called, if you ever go to Hershey, and have some heckles ready, right, they'll give you a free chocolate tour. In Chocolate World, there's Chocolate Land, which is a theme park. Do the free tour. So there's a free tour where you get into a vehicle, it drives you around. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And it has animatronics of cows that haven't been fed with steroids, just like skinny cows. Where are the cows who make the milk? We make the milk. We give the milk. Here we go. We're going to do the thing. And my two-year-old was like, this ride is awesome, Dad.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Thanks for bringing me on it. I liked it. Yeah, he was like, ah! Ah! Ah! And then it's like singing chocolate bars I'm attracted to Reese's peanut butter cup
Starting point is 00:06:29 right all good stuff then there's like three things you can pay for and they're all this is not in the theme park this is the chocolate world
Starting point is 00:06:38 it's like the big store they have the theme park looks like it has really cool roller coasters it looks legit the theme park looks legit
Starting point is 00:06:44 we're not shitting. And also, the Hershey's, the theater we played for, they were real nice as well. That was owned by the Hershey's. The whole town was nice. Very quaint. The town's a banger. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Beautiful place. Anyway, so we go in there, and then they go, oh, we've got three other things you can do. Tasting. That's what we do. There was make your own candy bar. First of all, they have one section called fill your own Reese's peanut butter cups.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Yeah, make your own. Which you think, that's good. I'll put a bit of cereal in there or some chocolate chips or something and I'll spice mine up. No, the peanut butter cups, that big. Oh, my God. It's a little small, but it's probably about eight inches across, nine inches or ten inches. It's big. It's that. It's way too small, but it's probably about eight inches across, nine inches or 10 inches.
Starting point is 00:07:25 That's, it's big. It's that. It's way too big. And it's deep. Yeah. Okay. The scooping.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Peanut butter. It's, it's, it's a seven pound thing, but the ratio is off. I remember they had like 10 pound candy bars in there. We went there for a Hackett family reunion one year. And so my brother and I were freaking out.
Starting point is 00:07:42 They just took Belchonga bars. Yeah. It's where you go they work for kaga collar they duck off the hershey's for a vacation i wasn't even thinking about that don't spend your money on the tasting thing though no no spend your money on the tasting thing forest yeah that's great forest look i can't i come from a theater background okay right so i understand the theater. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I guess I didn't know what was going on there. Yeah. Forrest isn't. He's never watched the great musicals or anything. $18. Get in there. $18. So I went and bought tickets for four people.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I bought Amos one. And then Charlie got in for free. My son got in for free. That was pretty good. And as you go in, they give you- Me, Jim, Amos, and Tasey. They give you a little container of chocolate like this. A little tin. That has like the fun-sized chocolate bar, the dark one, the white one, the milk one, a kiss and a rollo.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That's everything that's in there. That's the tasting one. That's the whole thing in there. So you paid $80 to get in there. It's like, I've eaten all these before. And then we thought the tasting experience, they were going to go, here, taste this. This is the cocoa and it's raw state. Or taste this.
Starting point is 00:08:46 This is something we've been experimenting on that no one knows about. Can you taste the hints of cherry? We thought it was going to be a bit of that, like a wine tasting. Nah, it was a show that was made just for five-year-olds. It was made... You couldn't be older.
Starting point is 00:09:02 If you're older than five, you've outgrown it. And younger than five, you don't have the concept of understanding what the fuck's going on. It was made to take $18 out of your pocket. That's what it was made for. What happens in this show? So this lady comes on. Now, may I say that both the people who performed did a bang-up job. I've got nothing against them.
Starting point is 00:09:20 They did as good as they could. They did as good as they could with the script they had. There's nothing wrong with the actors. Just the show is garbage. So she comes in like this. She comes in and she goes, Oh, I didn't know you were all going to be here. Welcome to the Hershey's factory.
Starting point is 00:09:35 It is my first day. I'm going to take you on a wonderful world of Hershey's. Nothing can go wrong on my first day. Nothing can go wrong. There's just a few screens behind her. Let me just pull this lever here, and then for no reason, some smoke comes out of the wall. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:09:51 You're all working with me. Don't tell my boss. I'll get in a lot of trouble. A lot of that type of stuff, right? And then it's like, eat the chocolate, right? And then you eat this. Take out your Hershey bar. Smell it.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Take out your Hershey bar. And you feel it over like this, and you smell it. And then you go like this, and then nibble it. Take a little thing, and then take out your hershey bar smell it and you feel over like this and you smell it and then you go like this and then you and then nibble it take a little thing and then don't bite just let it melt over your tongue and then you can taste the hints of fucking stomach acid and all the other things we put into hershey acid right so they're doing that but i i turned around and forrest and amos had already you meant meant to eat it in sequence. Yeah, we just ate it all. You guys ate it all. They just already ate their thing. And I'm like, I'm just going to eat mine as well. Right?
Starting point is 00:10:29 And so we'd eaten all of our stuff way too early. Like we were. Yeah, it goes through the wall. Because only little tiny chocolate bars. This guy comes through the wall. It just fell out of my pocket. Yeah. And so now all of a sudden she has a diploma that gets poured with chocolate
Starting point is 00:10:42 or something like that, all on the screen. And then a guy comes through who's the guy who invents chocolate. Smoking the wall. Yeah, and he's got like those goggles on his head. Steampunk. Steampunk, yeah, he's steampunking. Yeah. He comes in and goes, I'm the chocolate chocolatier.
Starting point is 00:11:00 What's going on here? And then he brings you into another room for no apparent reason. Yeah, the smell. And this is why, this show's not even for five-year-olds. He goes, what are the different bits of taste? You have vegetable, this, this, earthy taste, this taste, sour taste, sweet taste. And so he goes, what's a sweet taste? And then he threw something in.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Then he threw a block of cheese in. What's an earthy taste? Broccoli. Threw some broccoli in or whatever. And he goes, and that's how you make chocolate. And then the machine went, steam, and out came a chunk of cheese
Starting point is 00:11:31 with a big bit of broccoli coming out. He goes, oh, it must have malfunctioned. Oh, have a good day at Hershey's. What? No, no, no. He goes, the missing ingredient was heart. Yeah, yeah. You got to put your heart into it.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But the whole time he's doing this, I could see where the exit doors were because you walk this wall and i knew those were the exit doors and i just kept staring at him like we'll be through this soon okay this is what i don't like about it we were told not to film when we go in there and the entire audience respected it you get told at my gigs no one respects this at all i filmed i filmed some stuff did you yeah yeah you got some you got some footage there was a guy behind amos and i that was just pacing like frantically while the woman was talking and I go
Starting point is 00:12:08 I think he has a role coming up and he's really nervous like he's about to say something I mean pacing frantically it turns out I think he was on the spectrum his only thing
Starting point is 00:12:15 he had to do was come grab the things that blew up and move them away that's all he had to do and he was just pacing and he also he had some weird hand gestures
Starting point is 00:12:22 so I think he was something going on with him being nervous but I was filming because I was like well if we get murdered this is the guy because he was like behind Amos you didn't see him he was just pacing, and he also had some weird hand gestures, so I think he was something going on with him. But I was filming because I was like, well, if we get murdered, this is the guy because he was like behind NamUs. You didn't see him. He was just like.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I bought the four tickets, right? And so Forrest was off looking at the Reese's peanut butter cups or something, and we got to the counter. We got to the theater, the room, and I said, oh, Forrest is here. So I gave over my three tickets and he went like this, one, two, three. And then he got the three candies and he gave us the three boxes of candy.
Starting point is 00:12:54 But Forrest wasn't there yet. So I sort of stuck around. Everyone else went in. I stuck around waiting for Forrest. I gave Forrest his one ticket. I went, there you go. And then he handed it over and then he looked at Forrest like Forrest was some pervert that wanted to come to the kid show.
Starting point is 00:13:06 He's like this, one? That's right, he goes, one. I go, it's just me. Yeah, it's just me. He's like, what are you doing coming in here? I'm going to the tasting experience. We're my friends. By the way, if we didn't have Charlie, we would have been not welcoming.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Not good. It would have been four adults not good it would have been four adults alright we gotta move on here so you got upcoming gigs Tyson this week no this week
Starting point is 00:13:31 you're in Austin Austin Austin City Limits on November 16th November 17th you have two shows in Dallas, Texas November 18th
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Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah, good comedy club. I'll be there with Amos. He's going do like a set in front of me on November 15th at Cap City Comedy Club also hey listen to my other podcast it's called The Merman it's with Dave Williamson not Merman, Merman Podcast download it subscribe to it you don't even have to listen to it I hear his bottom half used to be
Starting point is 00:14:21 a coy okay good watching bad eating. All right, let's meet our guest. Please welcome Guy Hutchinson. G'day, Guy. Now it's time to play. Yes, no. Yes, no.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Yes, no. Yes, no. Judging a book by its cover. We've had Guy on the podcast before. We have, for Disney. For Disney. And so I'm going to think it's an entertainment. Guy, is it entertainment based?
Starting point is 00:14:50 Not really. Oh, God. So it's not about colonoscopies then. I did that. Yeah, I know. But I'm just saying it won't be about that. Yeah, yeah. I find them very entertaining.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Okay. So it's not in the entertainment is it sports based which is still the entertainment business i would argue um is it something in the nerd world no no god well anyway is it educational no uh is it uh is it is it science based nope everything science based guy bloody hell it's something that you
Starting point is 00:15:31 you like some places and other places you're eh I can take it or leave it is it sucking cock
Starting point is 00:15:39 why would it be that because some places some places aren't good at it the right environment I can do it now there's times when you're like and you've had a couple of drinks Why would it be that? Because some places aren't good at it. The right environment, I can do it. Now, there's times when you're like, and you've said- A couple of drinks, an alleyway, a moonlit candle. You've said, Forrest, I know.
Starting point is 00:15:55 But in your country, you guys mess this up. But in other countries, it's really good. Oh, is it marriage? Is it divorce? Because you guys are not going to divorce over here. You still like it here, but you think it's- 50%? It's forever?
Starting point is 00:16:11 What is it another place? 10 years? Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, I think it's bad everywhere. I mean, I don't know. California is really bad. I'm being told. Think food.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Oh, you mess it up here. Bread. We've already done bread. But you mess it up here, but it's good bread but you mess it up here but it's good everywhere else i think you still are okay with it here but you're like man it's really good in australia and europe and england and i know you got sushi's good here indian food very specific indian food fast food fast food is very good here but it it's better. Oh, KFC. That's right. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. KFC here is no good. KFC overseas is the one for me.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Would you admit that guy that oversees foreign KFC is the shit, man? Foreign KFC. No, 100%. Get yourself a tower burger with a bloody hash brown on there. You're having yourself a good day. Zinger, lovely. Yeah, I told you, yeah. Zinger burger. Zinger tw yeah zinger burger zinger twister
Starting point is 00:17:06 we're gonna be talking about ksc crushes you ever had a crusher no oh it's i've had a crusher they're pretty good it's the kfc version of a mcflurry but it's got a bit of ice in there as well it's a little bit milky a bit icy, and then they crumble up in your favourite candy in there. And have you ever had... Okay, Guy, you won't know. We should do an episode of this. They had a Golden Daytime, which is my favourite bit of confectionery,
Starting point is 00:17:34 which is an Australian dessert, which is an ice cream with a cookie crumble. It's got its own unique flavour, but they do you a Daytime Crusher, which sounds like a crime in certain Middle Eastern countries. It's a crime in this country, too. It's just a position. So KFC Colonel Sanders.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. Guy Hutchinson is the author of several offbeat theme park books, including the official historical guide to the Sesame Street theme park in Philadelphia and the best-selling Disney cocktail guide, Bippity Boozity Book. Along with voice actor Dana Snyder, he hosts a live show, Drunk on Disney. He is the color commentator for FSCW Wrestling, and he vlogs daily on his YouTube channel, Pointless Nostalgia. You can find him on YouTube at Guy Hutchinson and also on Instagram and X.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I guess we're just calling it X now. It used to be Twitter. Instagram and X, at Guy Hutchinson. Yeah, I refuse to do it. I'm doing it now. Guy Hutchinson. That's G-U-Y-H-U-T-C-H-I-N-S-O-N. So in addition to Disney and wrestling,
Starting point is 00:18:42 you also know a lot about fast food too, right? You should do a Hershey's Park book as well when you get the time. Oh yeah. Hershey's Park. It's phenomenal. Is it? You like Hershey's Park? Yeah, well you didn't? No. We didn't get into the theme park. We just went to Hershey's World, which is just
Starting point is 00:19:00 a lot of candy and a very bad play. But that's a crazy ride. Oh, the one where you just go through. They take you around Hershey's like this. You get into a vehicle, takes you around like this, and we get cocoa, and we ground that up. We add a bit of milk and a dash of vanilla,
Starting point is 00:19:19 and there you go, Hershey's chocolate. Where's all the E numbers and the emulsifiers? Then we get some corn And we replicate The taste of sugar Jim hates Hershey's chocolate No but the people At the Hershey's theatre
Starting point is 00:19:33 Were very nice to me And the town of Hershey's Is a delight Yeah You could live there It's a beautiful little town All the street lamps Are little Hershey kisses
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah And they The foliage The foliage The foliage If you want to If you want to see town. All the street lamps are little Hershey kisses. Yeah. And the foliage. The foliage. If you want to see some changing of leaves. Oh, yeah. It was like orange and yellow over there.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Guy, is there a theme park you haven't been to? At least in the United States. Oh, sure. Yeah, no. I mean, there's plenty I haven't been to, but I love theme parks. Anyone I can get a chance to go to if I'm near one, I'm always there. Have you heard of Holiday World in Santa Claus, Indiana? We were driving around. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah. No, yes, I've heard about that. That place is fantastic. Well, there was one nearest the other day. We were driving from Hershey's to Philadelphia called Dutch Land. Oh, yeah, Dutch World. Dutch Wonderland. Dutch Wonderland.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Dutch Wonderland. Is Dutchland. Dutch Wonderland. Is Dutch Wonderland any good? I mean, that's a kiddie theme park. But yeah, if you have kids, I mean, it's great if you have little kids. Yeah, we did have a little kid. We didn't make it. We did have a little kid. We should have gone to Dutch Wonderland.
Starting point is 00:20:36 All right. Bought some clogs. Guys, so you know the drill. I'm going to ask Jim a series of questions about KFC and Colonel Sanders. Stands for Kentucky Fried Chicken. I don't know if I'm asking that. Ding, ding, ding. There's one point.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Into the back pocket. They shortened it up because people believed that fried food was bad for them. That's weird. They believed saying it was bad, eating it apparently was all right. Yes. Not yet. I'm going to ask Jim a series of questions about KFC, Colonel Sanders, and you're going to grade them as accuracy, 0 through 10.
Starting point is 00:21:07 10's the best. Oh, I love this episode. Jackson will grade them on confidence, 0 through 10. I'm going to grade them on how hungry I am. 11 different herbs and spices. We'll put that together. Is it 11 or 12? 0 through 10.
Starting point is 00:21:18 If you score that, KIA. You know what that is? KIA. Killed in action. That's what it stands for. 11 through 20, KGB. Do you know what that is? Kaya. Killed in action. That's what it stands for. 11 through 20, KGB. Do you know what that stands for?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah, the Russian people. The words are. Kremlin be gangsters. No, it's. It's. KBG. Yeah, yeah. That'd be better.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It's Kometet Gosardstevnoi Bezopost. Oh, it's Kremlin gangsters be. Yeah, that's it. And if you get 20 with your 30 KLF, do you know what that is? We're going to rock you. Oh, yeah. Adam ready to cue it. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. You know the song?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah. Because of England? Here you go. KLF's going to rock you. Well, you got this song to Australia. All right, that's enough, Jack. I can't play more than that. I was on a TV show in Australia.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I've talked about this before, called Vidiot. And every sort of like five questions, it was like a round where it was like, you can win a CD. And you get a question like, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. You want a CD? One of these CDs was KLF. Yeah, good man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I have no idea who they are. They're going to rock you. It's like an electronic, British electronic music. The album cover is just like big speakers. That song is huge. All right, what is Colonel Sanders' full name? Oh, Colonel Sanders. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Okay, so his last name was Sanders. His first name was Derek. Derek Sanders. And the Colonel, he's put the Colonel in front like he was Elvis' manager. So Derek. Derek Sanders. And the colonel, he put the colonel in front like he was Elvis' manager. So it's Derek Sanders. The Colonel Derek Sanders. The, okay. Colonel Derek Sanders.
Starting point is 00:22:54 The fifth. Okay, the fifth. Where was he born and when? He would have been born in one of the red states, I reckon. And he was sipping a mint julep. What state was he born in? He was watching. Okay, so I've watched the food that built America.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And I remember because he had the pressure cooker was his big thing that he could cook it for. But I made fried chicken at home. Four minutes to do a gulong. What state was Colonel Sanders born in and when? He would have been in oh kentucky yeah kentucky he was from kentucky okay and when was he born uh fried chicken fried chicken uh no he was born he would have been born in kentucky in 1890.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Okay. How did Colonel Sanders get into cooking? Well, it's stupid. This answer is very silly. How did he get into the chicken biz? Because he's wearing a fucking white suit. That's not for cooking. That's for staining.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yeah. How did he get into the chicken biz? Although butchers wear white suits as well. What is this going on? Why do chefs wear white? Yeah. They look disgusting. They should be wearing dark clothes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Cover up all the spillage. How did we not see it? This is like the red coats. Wear camouflage, you idiots. You're soldiers. Stop banging your drum and playing a flute. You're giving away our position. You're giving away a free concert.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah. All right, let's answer all my questions. Okay, so he got into cooking when his wife died, and he had to start making meals for one. Okay. He was actually younger than we think. Okay, so I'm going to say that he was born in 1920. I'll take back the 1890.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Okay. Because I remember some footage. He was like in the 60s. He was 40, and he sort like in the 60s he was 40 and he sort of wore the outfit and he went around and he pressure cooked and all that type of stuff
Starting point is 00:24:49 he owned a gas station I believe and he sold the chicken out of a gas station okay I'm putting it in there did he serve in the military how did he become a Kentucky Colonel oh I thought he was made of corn.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I will say that he wasn't in the military. I'm going to say this bullshit. It's like Elvis is the colonel. I think it's just a bit of show business name. Okay. What jobs did he have before selling chicken? He was a colonel in the military. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Well, really he's going to mess up your score. He was a colonel in the military. And I'm going to just say it, slave owner. He had the look, didn't he? I mean, he had the tie. That was his job? You try doing it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It takes time. I'm not saying it's a noble profession. It's a managerial position. noble profession it's a managerial position it's a managerial job at worst i would say he worked any other jobs with and above um any other jobs behind slave owner and carl the military slave okay uh he also uh women's lingerie designer and wearer okay um where do you first sell chicken from he said a gas station what was his padded method for cooking the chicken? He put it in a pressure cooker
Starting point is 00:26:06 and 11 different herbs and spices. And the pressure cooker meant that. So he actually went and sold the concept of KFC chicken as a franchise straight out of his thing. Just went around and taught people how to make the chicken and went, this is how you do the chicken. This is how you do the chicken. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And then he didn't come back till years later because KFCs, they never had uniform, the red and white stripes. They were all painted different. so you do the chicken okay where and then he didn't come back to years later because kfc's they never had uniform the red and white stripes they were all painted different sometimes they just have a big chicken standing out the front and stuff like that where was his original restaurant kentucky okay i mean louis louis louisville kentucky louisville okay. When did he start wearing the outfit? From the moment he woke up. He slept in it. Not to sleep.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Not to sleep. A lot of people think he went to sleep in it, but too much thrush. Okay. You've got to change your pants. Where was the first KFC franchise opened and when? That would have been the second one one the franchise one first franchise yeah it would have been in uh um lakeview street number 14 lakeview street tampa okay i don't know what's going on there but that's a what's what is that is that right
Starting point is 00:27:20 you didn't you didn't so uh how many countries are there kfc's in oh uh they're all everywhere how many countries are there 200 212 let's go with that 212 you're gonna turn in 12 countries there's a little over 200 okay so we're going to take away some of the non-kfc countries right okay so so so straight away we get rid of iceland no kfc in iceland because there's 195 countries 195 oh that's made it even easier right so yeah so i'm gonna take away and so i reckon afghanistan oh there's probably okay i'm in the airport i think i think i've eaten kfc in afghanistan i think i have we need a number you know what i've eaten KFC in Afghanistan. I think I have.
Starting point is 00:28:07 We need a number. You know what? I've definitely eaten Subway in Afghanistan. We need a number. How many countries? There's 17 Subways in Afghanistan. Final answer. How many countries out of 195?
Starting point is 00:28:19 I'm going to say 176. 176. How many locations are there in total? Times that by 200. So I'm going to say 5,000. 5,000. 5,000. What is Kentucky Christmas? What does that refer to?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Kentucky Christmas is what the Japanese do for Christmas Day because they don't have the turkey. And so KFC found a hole in the market, Japanese do for Christmas Day because they don't have the turkey. And so KFC found a hole in the market and they said, hey, Japanese people. They didn't use any slur or anything. They used the full thing. They used the proper terminology. Yeah, proper terminology. They said, hey, and Jack will know this.
Starting point is 00:28:58 He's a quarter Japanese. That's right. I hear that one quarter of Jack's Christmas dinner is KFC. Is that correct, Jack? That is 100% correct. And it's just the gravy on the mashed potatoes in those tubs. Mountains and mountains of that and those little tiny bread rolls. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Starting point is 00:32:46 You know how when you're in India, the cows are sacred? Uh-huh. Countries where chickens are sacred? Where's the secret chicken country? I don't know. It's got to be one. Pakistan? Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Name a movie that Colonel Sanders has appeared in. He's appeared in more than one, I believe, but just name at least one. Cumsluts 4. Jeez. Number four, number four huh yeah he wasn't in the first three yeah although i fast forward through most of it he might have made a cameo um no he what movies he made i'm gonna say cannibal run one uh-huh and i'm gonna say uh i don't think that's right but it's a good guess i beg it can't hold. Cannibal Run 1. Yeah, Cannibal Run 1. I've got to watch them again.
Starting point is 00:33:26 They're good movies. Cannibal Run 1, and then I'm going to say From Here to Eternity. Oh, that's a good one. From Here to Eternity. Yeah, I think he is in that one. Name some people that have played him in commercials. You should be able to get this. Oh, that was-
Starting point is 00:33:42 A lot recently. Yeah, recently, wasn't it? Geez. Give me two or three. That just happened. My brain's gone blank. Was it like Seth Rogen did it? I don't know. They went through like five comedians.
Starting point is 00:33:58 That's right. Jim Gaffigan. Yeah. Did I do it? You did not. I think. The guy that's dead now. The guy that's dead now. African? Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Did I do it? You did not. I think. No. The guy that's dead now. The guy that's dead now. He is dead now.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Jerry Seinfeld. He's not dead yet. No, he is. There's a guy that's dead. Jerry Seinfeld? No, that's it. When did Jerry Seinfeld die? Is that what you just said?
Starting point is 00:34:17 We're moving on here. How much did the Colonel sell KFC for? What, each piece of chicken? No, when he sold the franchise. Or the brand, I guess. In today's money? When he sold it, how much? In their money?
Starting point is 00:34:33 I'm moving on. USD? Yeah, yeah, yeah, USD. We have two more questions. Do we have any USD plugs? Like, when he sold it, how much money did he sell it for? In their money, $5 million.? In their money, $5 million.
Starting point is 00:34:46 In today's money, $300 million. But he came back to be a figurehead. He sold it, and then he went, nothing sells chicken like this face. Yeah. Okay, last question. And then he's just in the outfit, just with the thing, just, I make it the same way every time.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I didn't take this recipe from one of my workers back in the day. Last question. What is the Claudia Sanders restaurant? Claudia Sanders? Yeah, Claudia Sanders. Claudia Sanders was his fucking bitch of a sister. And she used to sell deep fried turkey. KFT.
Starting point is 00:35:28 KFT. KFT. Got a ring to it. All right. Guy Hutchinson. How did Jim do on his knowledge of Colonel Sanders and KFC? Zero through ten. Ten's the best.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I mean, I'll have to go around a 4, because you got some of the major things right, and then 1 eerily correct. Yeah, yeah, he got that 1 that I thought he wouldn't get. I was like, wow, he got that one. 4, what do you got confidence? I mean, that was a 10. I mean, this guy knew what he was talking about. Yeah, I'm hungry, so I guess I'll give you 10. You get a 24.
Starting point is 00:36:00 KLF. I thought you were going to play it again. It's okay. That was just a recording. That wasn't me singing. Guy, what is Colonel Sanders' full name? Jim said the Colonel Derek Sanders V. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:36:14 No, no. It was Harlan. Harlan Sanders. I knew it was Harlan. I tell you, I watch so many documentaries. I've seen like three Colonel Sanders ones. Nothing gets in the head anymore. I used to say I watch documentaries so I learn things
Starting point is 00:36:27 because I can't get things from books. Now I can't get things from anything. When you watch the documentary, The Food That Made Us, do you order that food and eat it while you watch it? No. Mostly when I watch this stuff, I'm like a little bit – some of the food that built America, you're like, oh, that's slop. Like there's an episode on Wonder What where I think I smashed my TV just throwing things at it.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And then there's the one Little Debbie. Fuck Little Debbie. Little Debbie's only short because she got both of her feet cut off from diabetes. She should be called Stumpy Deb. So it's Harlan Sanders. And where was he born and when was it Kentucky in 1920? Weirdly, you first guessed it at 1890 Which I was shocked about And then switched to 1920
Starting point is 00:37:15 But yes, he was born in 1890 He was born in Henryville, Indiana Was that, did I, is that the one I got eerily right? No, no, no, no You got his birth year correct and then changed it. He's not from Kentucky, he's from Indiana. Yeah, but I locked the answer in. So it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah, you should have told him you can't change answers. It doesn't matter. You got the full score anyways. If this was a game show. It's too late. It's too late, so he locked it in. Okay, but you got Kentucky wrong. He was in Indiana.
Starting point is 00:37:41 He's from there. Next to each other, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. How did Colonel Sanders get into cooking? Middle bit. you wrong he was in indiana he's from next to each other aren't they yeah yeah um how did colonel sanders get in the cooking middle wife die and he had to start making meals for one he did say he sold the chicken out of a gas station which we can talk about that too yeah yeah so he he actually started cooking his father died and so when he was six his father passed away and he had to cook for the family every night so
Starting point is 00:38:05 he learned how to cook and by his story which you kind of have to take with a grain of salt because he told a lot of stories and by his own story he had mastered an entire recipe book by the age of seven so he he was quite a cook i me and my son have started frying chicken at home, but we do replica canes. But I tell you what, it was so good. Yeah. Fuck, it was good. Yeah. And remarkably easy. Like, I used to think, oh, that's my chicken recipe.
Starting point is 00:38:32 And I'm just like, fuck it. It's not hard. Well, you've got to fry. It's not. I know the frying is easy. You have a fryer. Yeah, I've got a deep fryer. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:41 You get the buttermilk. You try buying buttermilk in Los Angeles. It's a kind of a thing. No one's bought it ever. In the store, they're like, what? Can I get some buttermilk? It's not there? In the South, it would be.
Starting point is 00:38:56 You can get a carton of it in Ralph's. You can't get it in Whole Foods for love nor money. And then, yeah, it's, yeah. And then white pepper was a big one but i don't know do you know the 11 different herbs and spices guy yeah white peppers the the main one and the other one that's uh important is ground mustard uh you know salt is one peppers another you can find the list online because his nephew found it in a book and then published it yeah yeah it's not a secret anymore. Yeah, but the white pepper's a big one.
Starting point is 00:39:28 That's the big one. And you don't want to go too heavy-handed on the white pepper. The white pepper's a big one. I don't even, I mean, I've had white pepper. I've seen it. I don't know how it tastes different than black. Like, it's milder. Oh, no, you can tell the difference.
Starting point is 00:39:40 It's got a different tang to it. Huh. You're going to have to lick the white pepper. Did Colonel Sanders serve in the military and how did he become a kentucky colonel and jim said he didn't serve in the military just made up the title no so he did serve in the military uh he lied about his age to join the military like a lot of people did in that era uh but he was dishonorably discharged shortly after. He was stationed in Cuba, served there for, I think, less than a year. He was dishonorably discharged. We don't know exactly why.
Starting point is 00:40:12 But he got the title colonel well after that. He only ranked a private in the military. But in Kentucky, they have an honorary title of Kentucky colonel. It's given to over 10,000 people a year. And he had been working part-time as a midwife delivering babies. And so he got the title of Kentucky Colonel the first time because of that. So wait, we can all become colonels? Kentucky colonels?
Starting point is 00:40:40 You could. It is the highest civilian honor in the state of or in the commonwealth of kentucky uh but you uh it is given to a lot of people and he was he was one of many uh what dave thomas the guy who founded wendy's worked with colonel sanders and he always said you know i'm a kentucky colonel it's a very easy thing to become but colonel sanders made it his entire gimmick his entire life well yeah so the guy that started wendy's they do another food that made us dave thomas yeah he started out with him dave's burgers and all that stuff but he's the genius who invented us all
Starting point is 00:41:15 having two bits of meat on our burger right before him no one had the two bits of meat right so he had the single burger then he had the double burger and a triple right yeah that's the whole thing he had the double burger no one was buying the double burger no one wanted it it's too much i just think the singer's too much and then he invented the triple which no one buys the triple right everyone everyone goes they'll get the double so you don't feel like a fat pig that guy invented us being fat asses by going the size is bigger. You know about Wendy's guys? Is this all true? I mean, I think you're right on almost all of that, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to go get a triple just in spite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like how I went, okay, you got the double, and Forrest goes, I have the triple. I remember when I was – Four, why? No, but as you were saying, that all makes sense
Starting point is 00:42:01 because I remember as a kid walking into Wendy's and being like, triple? Who the hell would get that? And then we would get a double, like a sensible double. This is a healthy burger. If you get like a double-double at In-N-Out, right, that's a thin thing. Like I sometimes get a three-by-three at In-N-Out because they're thin. But that Wendy's, they're like quarter-pound beef patties, man.
Starting point is 00:42:22 The doubles are fucking kicking on your ass. A triple's ridiculous. Me and Jack were coming home the other day from something we were doing together out in the woods, burying a body, blah, blah, blah. Something. And we went and we stopped at Fatburger. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And I went, I'll have a double whatever. It was like the size of my fucking head. Oh, you got the king. You got the double king. I got a double king. Yeah. Fuck double king. Fatburger's good double king. I got a double king. Yeah. Fuck double king. Fatburger's good, though.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Fatburger's all right, yeah. What jobs did Colonel Sanders have before selling chicken? Midwife, man. He was a midwife. I changed my answer to midwife. Okay. Midwife is one of them. He had a lot of jobs.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He ran for Senate at one point. He would always do something else so when he was running the gas station he would work as a midwife on the side he really believed that you had to work hard every moment of your life he did it until the end of his life and uh he was he was very fond of of working and so yeah midwife was it was a big one though well how do you become a male midwife in the early 1900s i think they only hired men back then oh women can't do that yeah what do they know about giving birth that's right you just had the same plunger you used to clean the bathrooms it was a lawyer too, right?
Starting point is 00:43:45 I remember reading that. He got in some fight in a courtroom and got disbarred. Yeah, he did. He got in a fight in the courtroom. He got in a lot of fights. He got in fights at his gas station. There was a guy who was a rival gas station owner who came by and painted over his sign.
Starting point is 00:44:02 He painted it back the way it should be and the guy came by to paint it again so colonel and one of the shell oil executives chased the guy down the street and shot at him uh and ended up the other guy shot and killed him colonel didn't kill him but uh yeah killed this competition oh my god really if if he actually shot the guy, we wouldn't have KFC right now. Yeah, yeah. He would have gone to prison. I mean, he also, there was another time where he was in his shop and somebody fired a gun on the street in some kind of argument. So he ran out.
Starting point is 00:44:35 He was in his underwear for reasons I'm not exactly sure, but he ran out with his shotgun and he held the guys while he was in his underwear and then helped the police arrest them when they got there. I reckon he would have had the big white underwear of course yeah yeah he's gonna have leopard print no i don't wear long johns he's a fun one he didn't have the elastic up the top that stuck over the top of his jeans i need a suspenders for the underwear uh fat men in suspenders man okay let me tell you this though so i'm fat, and I went to a wedding a couple years ago or something, and I was like, I'm going to try suspenders. Oh, they work?
Starting point is 00:45:09 No, no, you have to be really fat for suspenders. You either have to be really fat or skinny, because if you're just in the middle fat, like I'm not, it just pulls it up a little, and then the pants are like, it doesn't look good. And I don't mean this in a mean way, because I do the same thing. You still are doing the tuck under of fatness so you get you do your belt underneath you know i tried to pull it over the belly i don't know yeah and then you there's one step there's one moment in a fat
Starting point is 00:45:36 man's life where you go from a from a 33 to a 48 right like overnight where you've gone i'm going over the fat now. And once you go over the fat, you can suspender up. If you go under the flap, you can't duck the suspender under. Yeah, it looks terrible. No, no, no. I've been the same waist since high school. I'm fucking fat as fuck. But I duck under.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Yeah, the duck under. You know what I'm talking about, Jack? I do. I wore suspenders for- Jack does it. His metabolism is great.'ve worked suspenders for metabolism it's great i wore suspenders for like a debutante ball i was at and then you're in shape dude yeah but i still felt my belly still went but jack was a fat kid but the belly went in the pants i was like that's kind of neat that's kind of nice um yeah robin williams he could wear a suspender yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:46:22 yeah it'd be like rainbow system yeah but now you look at them, too political. Yeah. And they're missing the transmit. So he first sold chicken from the gas station, correct? Yes. And then his patented method was, was it a pressure cooker? It was. It was the pressure cooker.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And fried chicken wasn't very common, especially outside of the south at that time and one of the reasons is not that it's hard to cook it's that it's expensive to cook because you got to use up so much oil what you use less oil in the pressure cooker no i mean if you a pressure cooker is just a way to do it quicker and he was able to get it crispier but the thing about frying at home you got to use like half a bottle of oil every time you cook. Yeah, back in the days. Oh, yeah. No, no. Making it at home is kind of a job.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Messy. Yeah, messy. And it does take up a whole thing of it. Like, it's quite costly to make it at home. And you've got to go and buy a big glug, glug, glug, glug, glug. Do you recycle your oil or do you just dump it? Well, my deep fryer has a little bit where you can catch it in the chamber so you can use it a few times, and then you can recycle it back in the bottle and use it again.
Starting point is 00:47:27 But I just dumped it after I made the chicken because it had chicken bits in it. Where do you dump it? I don't know if I did the right thing. Not down the drain. No, I did not go down the drain. Oil and water don't mix. You don't put it down the drain.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Also, it clogs up the pipes. I put it back into the container it came in and sealed it up and disposed of it. I don't know if that's the best thing to have done. I think that sounds right. I think that sounds right. Otherwise, we'll get some comments. But you definitely don't put it down the drain.
Starting point is 00:47:51 No, I did not put it down the drain. Anyone out there listening, don't put it down the drain. No, I didn't put it down the drain. So where was his original restaurant? I put it in the bath with my child. Where was his original restaurant? Was it Louisville, Kentucky? Louisville?
Starting point is 00:48:02 It was Shelbyville. It's like an hour east of Kentucky. Oh, Shelbyville. But he had a gas station, and then he opened up a bunch of motel rooms there. And he was a very smart marketer. He set up a motel room inside the gas station so people could look at it, see what the furniture looked like, and decided they wanted to stay there. And then he noticed a lot of people would come in and say well where's a good restaurant and so he started serving food just at his dining room table to people that were staying there yeah he sounds like he's like the
Starting point is 00:48:35 ultimate marketer i like everyone called the colonel there's no one lazy called the colonel yeah throughout history he never got who's that guy sleeping on the porch over there? It's the Colonel. Well, Colonel Clink. That's pretty funny, though. Colonel Clink was hard working? I guess so. Who's he? I forget about him.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Hogan's Heroes. I don't watch it. It's an old thing. I know. It's a classic. Okay. So I'm going to pitch to you Hogan's Heroes. I know the show.
Starting point is 00:49:03 You're a TV executive. Okay. Right? pitch to your Hogan's Heroes like you're a TV executive. Now also remember that the war has just ended less than 20 years ago. So this is basically the same as pitching an Afghanistan
Starting point is 00:49:15 prison sitcom now. No different to doing it now. So a prisoner of war camp. Hilarious. So you already come in. Remember the war? Yeah, I fought in it. What were you in?
Starting point is 00:49:28 I fought in it too. I was in 501. 501. Oh, you fly boys. Anyway, I've got this idea. Do you remember how they put us all in these prison camps? Yeah, those signs. The Japanese, they starved you, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:49:42 They did. The Germans were quite friendly to us, not to others. Right? Yeah, yeah. So the German ones, you used to get to still wear your outfit and all that type of stuff. And what we'll do is we'll have them in a prisoner of war camp where all the prisoners are banging the secretary who works in the prisoner of war camp. They escape every day and they cause a bit of a ruckus and they all come back at night.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah. They come, they get captured and come all come back at night yeah they come they get captured by the nazis oh they always get captured so the nazis are the foils yeah right there was a big there was a big fat ass nazi he used to stand at the back right and he would go i saw nothing i saw nothing no clink no yeah and i'm sorry the captain what's his name what's the guy that says i said nothing uh yeah i don't know cameras what was his name guy you would know that i don't know i don't know all all right let's get back to kfc we got um sold anyway so the guy who was the lead in the end he got bludgeoned to death with a lamp because he was making home pornos and the guy that he
Starting point is 00:50:44 was william defoe that's why it's in real life yeah not in the sitcom yeah yeah yeah he got really got really into banging chicks and filming it yeah that's in real life yeah really all right uh so the first was shelbyville kentucky was the first restaurant where was the first i'll skip to this one real quick where was the first kf franchise opened? So he had a friend that was also in the restaurant business, opened the first one in Salt Lake City. It was 1952. He had started making the chicken from the recipe he says that was, you know, the 11 herbs and spices, his perfect recipe in 1940. So there was a time period in between though, where he would franchise it in a really unique way where he would bring you a pressure cooker and he'd bring you the ingredients,
Starting point is 00:51:32 you know, the 11 herbs and spices sealed up already mixed and you'd make it in your restaurant. So it'd be like, you know, Jim's restaurant featuring Kentucky fried chicken and you'd be allowed to use his logo. And you paid him on every piece you sold.
Starting point is 00:51:46 That was, as I said, they went around and taught him how to make the chicken. And you'd do the thing. So Salt Lake City was the first actual franchise. It was a KFC, though. But Chick-fil-A started the same way. Chick-fil-A was a guy who had a recipe and all that type of stuff. And then he sold the recipe and the mix to the doorhouse to waffle house to waffle house yeah wow waffle house was the original place you could get a chick-fil-a sandwich and it said like a chick
Starting point is 00:52:11 chick-fil-a you only sold here and then the the chick the chick-fil-a sandwich was selling better than the waffles and the executive at waffle house went gotta take this off the menu we're all about waffles yeah smart jesus that turned out well for him yeah yeah so they got the waffle house was the original place to buy chick-fil-a that's crazy wow um uh when did he start wearing the outfit the colonel so he was commissioned as a kentucky colonel when he was a midwife then when he started selling the chicken they made him him a Kentucky Colonel again. And at that point, he said he first did it kind of as a gag for like photos, but he liked the whole idea of looking like a Colonel. So he grew in the goatee and he, you know, dyed his hair because his hair had some
Starting point is 00:52:57 black in it still, but he dyed all his hair white. He was always, he would traditionally wear a lot of white because he felt kind of like you guys were talking about as a chef though he felt if you looked in the kitchen and saw a chef that was wearing white you knew it was a very clean kitchen uh at least if his clothes were still clean and he said he could work in any kitchen yeah midwife probably wore darker clothes when he used to do the delivery, sometimes the prosthetic would make him look like a Jackson Pollock painting at the end. That's right.
Starting point is 00:53:31 But the second time they gave him the Kentucky Colonel title is when he went full on. And first he started wearing a black Kentucky Colonel suit. I mean, he really was playing a character. He took what we thought of as a colonel, and he was like, well, I'll look like that. That'll help sell the chicken. Yeah, it worked.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And how many countries are there KSEs in? Jim says 176. It's 145. Jeez. So they're almost everywhere. I can't imagine which countries they're not in. Well, not in Iceland are you sure? because we were there
Starting point is 00:54:08 we saw everything that Iceland had I mean it's everything we saw a lot Iceland was the first place on earth to have no McDonald's they opened up a McDonald's the guy said that and the people just didn't take to it
Starting point is 00:54:23 it was the only territory the McDonaldcdonald's went it we're not interested but i see more kfcs than i do mcdonald's overseas overseas well yeah caves kfc in britain is king kfc in australia and like remember malaysia i can't get over how bad it is in america why is it is it because pepsi owns it here or some why is it i think it's the quality of the birds that they're using. I think they're using these farmed birds that don't taste that great. Yeah, but the menu items, you don't have the extensive sandwiches. The tower burger. The burgers, the wraps, this type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:57 You just seem to have the bucket. The bucket. Yeah. I mean, there was a time where they were the number one fast food in the United States, and they've fallen way below that. Okay, so the bucket was invented by the guy from Wendy's. Wow. Dave Thomas?
Starting point is 00:55:13 Dave Thomas is the bucket, correct? I don't know that. I haven't heard that, but it could be. That was on the Food That Built America. They were like best friends or something? They worked together. So he worked for him. So he may have come up with the idea of serving it
Starting point is 00:55:25 in a bucket. Dave worked for Colonel? Dave Thomas also would wear the suit with the little tie as well when he worked for Colonel Sanders. Sometimes me and Jack dress the same.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Black t-shirts and hats. Black t-shirts, hats, and combos. Do you remember when we were driving from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore and there was a KFC in the middle of nowhere? I did.
Starting point is 00:55:43 It was in the jungle. And I was trying to... it was literally in the jungle there was monkeys all around it oh yeah yeah yeah you felt like you were in a Vietnam movie and then I remember I got the wrong drink
Starting point is 00:55:52 and I remember I brought it back up to be like sir I tried and he's like they spoke no English like Lee was a KFC we just pointed stuff
Starting point is 00:55:59 like this and then I remember you saying something to me I was like what are you doing just drink the drink you're not gonna I was like
Starting point is 00:56:04 God man what I ordered was. Yeah, it was. But it was in the middle of nowhere. There's a KFC there. Yeah. When did I change it from Kentucky fried chicken to KFC? I remember that day thinking that's not fooling anyone, is it?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Yeah, it was in the 1990s. They officially did it. They had always it had always been shortened that way by people. But yeah, in the 1990 1990s they thought they thought that it would make people think it wasn't as unhealthy fried became you know a very negative term but they were still selling fried chicken i mean you were still eating fried chicken it didn't the guys don't know so in britain there's loads and loads of knockoff kfc's uh country fried chicken kansas fried chicken and it's like
Starting point is 00:56:45 they're just independent ones that someone's opened up near a nightclub so they can sell fried chicken whatever and I'm just saying the KFC name's so strong
Starting point is 00:56:52 that they rip off the name yeah for sure but they can never rip off the colonel no I loved when they used to have the photos of the colonel and all that type of stuff
Starting point is 00:57:01 and now they have like little animations of him you know like in different things with his big fat head and he sort of well you were saying that you thought he's one of the most recognizable people in the world right guy you're saying i do i think in the united states i think he's probably the third most recognizable american behind george washington and abraham lincoln because you know we see them on money all the time. And him, you can't drive through a town without passing his face or turn on the TV and watch a commercial without seeing his face.
Starting point is 00:57:33 He's so associated with his brand. And there's no other fast food like that. I mean, nobody knows who founded Burger King. Yeah, but I couldn't draw the Colonel's face right now. I could draw the outfit. I could draw the little beard. But if you saw it, you'd know it. But his face, if you put me two different faces with the goatees, I might not be sure.
Starting point is 00:57:52 But like, like him or hate him, Trump. You've got to say Trump's number in the top three. Oh, his face. Yeah, I think we're talking about his branding. Branding, right. But if you're saying Washington Lincoln, I reckon Trump. He should be playing Colonel Sanders.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I think Trump's more famous than Obama. Yeah. I don't know. That's a tough one. I don't know. If Obama did a few more zingers, if he got into people a bit more. Definitely the world talked about Trump a little bit more. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Yeah. Go ahead. The colonel's been gone for 40-plus years at this point. You wait 40 years later after somebody's gone and they're still that associated with a brand. He's got staying power. He's got Hitler-esque staying power. Okay. Hitler is very recognized.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Hitler would be in your top five. I know, but it's... A lot of bad guys are remembered, right? That's how you get remembered in this world. Yeah, you gotta be a piece of shit. The colonel wasn't bad. I'm sure he shot at a guy. He deserved it.
Starting point is 00:58:58 You think that's the closest Colonel Sanders has come to killing someone? He kills people every day passive it's passive murder like if he shot and killed that bloke and went to prison do you know the amount of lives that would have been saved um the greater good you should have shot that bloke how many do we know how many ksc locations are like worldwide? Jim said 5,000. Yes. There's 24,000, which puts it about 10,000 behind Starbucks, which is currently the most worldwide. Oh, I
Starting point is 00:59:33 didn't include food courts. Yeah, but why is there more Starbucks? That sucks. I always thought the biggest franchise now was Subway. Subway was. Subway's lost a ton of locations over the past 10 years though uh 2022 they they did a study and it was starbucks star subway the problem with them is they they were dealing off this we're fresh we're healthy this is the healthy
Starting point is 00:59:56 fresh fresh fresh and then it turned out it was all shit you know their meat is really bad i haven't had a subway for years and. I went there recently. It was horrible. Other sub sandwiches have come up, and they've been really good. Jersey Mike's. Love them. Yeah. Firehouse is good.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Firehouse is all right, but Jersey Mike's. Jersey Mike's is probably the best one. And I don't even mind Ike's. I've gotten into Ike's recently. Don't know it. It's all right. It's a local one? It's San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:00:22 San Francisco. That's why all the sandwiches are called Madison Bumgardner and stuff like that. That's the best one, It's San Francisco. San Francisco. That's why it's like all the sandwiches are called Madison Baumgartner and stuff like that. That's the best one, the Madison Baumgartner. What is Kentucky Christmas? Jim said Japanese do this for Christmas Day. He's 100% right. Yeah. In Japan, KFC was one of the first fast food restaurants
Starting point is 01:00:39 to franchise overseas, and they heavily franchised into Japan. They sent tons of workers over there to, you know, and executives who lived there just to try to get it started in there. And they learned the culture and they found a way to ingratiate themselves to the people. And then once they were there, Christmas time came around and some of the people that ran it, you know, they said, hey, you know, maybe we should do a little something for Christmas because they don't celebrate Christmas here so they started celebrating Christmas and so Christmas is so associated with Colonel Sanders that they depict their version of Santa Claus
Starting point is 01:01:15 looks like Colonel Sanders in a Santa Claus outfit uh people will line up for hours and hours to get it's a giant bucket that has the chicken it also has sides and it has a cake and it is called kentucky christmas it's a big deal there i mean it's it's huge i just post mates it in japan yeah kentucky as soon as kfc came in the sumos exploded got more and more competitive every year what were you saying guy they they love to stand in line in japan it's a big cultural thing that if you're if there's something that's good you want to stand in line for it so the lines for it are very very long and people would not you know it's part of their tradition that hey we're gonna go stand in line today because this is kentucky
Starting point is 01:02:02 christmas wow like if it was your first time in Japan, you'd be like, well, I wonder what that's going on there. It must be like a temple or something. They're like, it's Kentucky fried chicken. Yeah, we should do something from their culture over here. For what holiday? I don't know, like fucking sushi Easter. That sounds great.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah, sushi Easter. Or sushi and eggs. And then the rabbit would look like a famous Japanese person. Yeah. Who's that? Shohani Otani. You got one. That's good.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Yeah, yeah. He's pretty famous. Man, he's number one. He's going to be the number one paid athlete on earth. Highest paid? Yeah, he's going to get $600 million for 10 years. That's got to be a record right i think so probably yeah what was that guy in japan uh for a while there was the han the hanshin tigers were they were a
Starting point is 01:02:55 great baseball team and they had they won the world series in 1985 they're the japanese version and they they had kind of like a a big party that kind of got out of hand. And they threw the Colonel Sanders statue from outside one of the restaurants into the lake. And the team then had catastrophic losses for years and years and just terrible luck. And so they called it the Curse of the Colonel. And so finally finally they dredged the lake and they took the statue out and they they you know they honorably placed him back in front of the kfc and then finally uh last year they won for the first time since 85 oh my god so so my my football team soccer for you americans my football team is fulham right and just the long story why i support fulham but it doesn't matter but anyway so f so Fulham were owned by Muhammad Al-Fayed,
Starting point is 01:03:46 who recently just died, who was Dodi Al-Fayed's father. He was also the owner of Harrods, right? Dodi Al-Fayed was the guy that died in the car accident with Diana, right? Okay, so Michael Jackson used to come whenever he was in England. He used to shop around Harrods, and he'd shut Harrods down an hour early so Michael could go shopping by himself. And I think that Fayed was a bit of a star fucker, right? So Michael Jackson, there's footage of this,
Starting point is 01:04:10 used to come to Fulham games wearing like a Fulham scarf and like a normal cap. He looked weird in normal clothes, right? And he'd come out and he'd wave at everybody. And all the football fans were like, fuck, you know it's Michael Jackson, isn't it? Anyway, so Michael Jackson dies, in case you didn't know. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Spoiler. And they fucking, they fucking put a statue of that kiddie fiddler out the front of the fucking stadium. It's still there? Nah,
Starting point is 01:04:36 the new owner got rid of it. The guy who owns it now is the bloke who owns the Jacksonville Jaguars, right? Yeah, but they're doing better since they got rid of the statue.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's the reverse. Yeah, but we're doing better since they got rid of the statue. Ah, yeah! Yeah, it's the reverse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but we had a big statue of Michael, like a real big one, as you walked into the stadium for no apparent reason
Starting point is 01:04:54 at Fulham's Craven Cottage. There's a statue of Michael Jackson in the park, a verse of Man in the Mirror. He didn't even write that song. He sang it a lot. Oh, he sang it a lot. Have you been to the Tokyo that song. He sang it a lot. Oh, he sang it a lot. Have you been to the Tokyo Disney World?
Starting point is 01:05:09 No. No? Have you been to any of the Disney World, like outside of America? No, only in America. I've been to Disneyland. I've been to Disney World. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Our mutual friend, this is how I met you, is Lisa Correo. She just went to Europe. One of the things she did was I know she went to Disney World in France. I'm like, is Lisa Correo, and she just went to Europe, but one of the things she did was, I know she went to Disney World in France, and I'm like, could it be that different, you think? I have been to the one in France, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I've been to what used to be Euro Disney. It's great, it's wonderful, and I did have some KFC while I was out there. Didn't we go to one in Hong Kong or something together? I didn't go with you, but I know there was one. I've been to the Hong Kong one yeah I went I went on the riverboat cruise yeah I was in Hong Kong I went I wasn't with you I went on the riverboat cruise in Hong Kong and there's an
Starting point is 01:05:54 English speaking line and a Chinese speaking line which one did you do well I went on the wrong one yeah I went on the English one I wanted to stretch the English one. I wanted to stretch me Chinese. Yeah. No, but when you hear the Chinese, you still know the joke they're doing. Then the little crocodile guy goes down. I just remember the big difference for me there was there was like squids on sticks.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Squid sticks. Yeah. Maybe eating. sticks. Squid steaks. Yeah. Maybe eating. Yeah. On the rides. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:30 All the snacks were way different than the U.S. one. That's true. What is Kentucky beef? This beef steak sold in countries where chickens are sacred. Correct. I got that one eerily correct. No, this was part of one of the many lawsuits that colonel sanders had uh he had a beef with kfc after he sold it so he sold the restaurant and then uh 1968 four years after he had sold it they started an entire line of kentucky beef restaurants and they put his face
Starting point is 01:07:01 on it and it said you know colonel sanders kentucky beef they had a hundred of them oh they didn't last they were like an arby's yeah i've seen this yeah it was an arby's yeah give me a picture of kentucky beef they lasted just about two years but he didn't like it because he said i have nothing to do with this i didn't make this recipe my face shouldn't be on this building you know know, I don't have any connection to this. I have a connection to the fried chicken. And so it was one of the many things he was not happy. So he sued. There were lawsuits back and forth, despite the fact that he continued to be a mascot for them and would do promotional appearances. They sued each other from the time that he sold it until he passed away. They continued to sue each other.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Now, when he was a colonel, he seems like he would have been the right age for the First World War, right? So when he was in the military, not when he was a colonel. Right. And so he didn't fight in any wars yet? No, he went to Cuba. Yeah, he served in Cuba. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:08:01 That's where he learned how to, all the different spices. Yep. Name a movie that Colonel Sanders has appeared in appeared in was cannibal run one that's a great guess i thought it was a good uh that's a tough question though because he didn't start any he didn't appear in any good movies but he appeared in a lot there was uh there's a movie called the finks which is bizarre only uh because of the sheer amount of weird celebrities that they jammed into it. But there's another movie called Blast Off Girls that I've seen with him.
Starting point is 01:08:31 But his thing was, in the era where he was very famous, he would tell any production, if you put me in your movie, I'll bring food and cater your movie. And so lots of weird, low budget movies would take them up on it. This one I saw Blast Off Girls. It's about this rock band and they're trying to get all the women and they're a bunch of guys and they get to a restaurant and they're like, we're hungry. And Colonel Sanders comes out and he's like, would you like to try my original Colonel Sanders chicken?
Starting point is 01:09:03 And they do like a whole commercial just in the middle of the movie and then over the closing credits they would always put his logo his the logo of his face and you know put special appearance by colonel sanders that's cool that's pretty smart yeah but if you i hope they they film that movie in sequence if he did all the catering the characters on fat thing he's really tired in all the scenes one's just shitting itself in the corner i do find the fried chicken shit for me is a is a it's a it's a it's a big one doozy yeah well like you get the greasiness of a poo but also the soulless of the protein like it's uh it's a slippery monster there's a name for a podcast. Slippery Monster. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 A lot of innuendo there, yeah. Name some other people that have played. Colonel Sanders. Jim Gaffigan. I know he did. Seth Rogen, I don't think. No, he was other comedians. So it was Jim Gaffigan.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Was it Kevin Hart? Norm MacDonald. Norm MacDonald. That's who died. I don't remember who else other than that. There was, yeah. I mean, Jason Alexander did. Daryl Hammond was the first one that they had when they started doing the different colonels.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And they did a bunch of weird ones. They had a wrestler in the WWE who wrestled a match as Colonel Sanders. When they re-released the reboot of RoboCop, they had RoboCop as Colonel Sanders in a commercial. But the whole concept of it actually started when he was still alive. He was thinking, hey, I can only make one appearance at a time. But if we can get other people to play Colonel Sanders,
Starting point is 01:10:36 we can have me making appearances everywhere. So he hired his nephew who looked a lot like him and dyed his hair and had him play Colonel Sanders in a few parades and things. So it was an idea he had himself. All right. So when they say that in Japan their Santa Claus is Colonel Sanders, do you have them in shopping malls where you can go sit on Colonel Sanders' lap? I don't think so. And what would you like, little girl?
Starting point is 01:11:01 I'd like a number two combo. If it's not chicken, get out. I can help you. Would you like a number two combo? If it's not chicken, get out. The thing about it is they only associate Christmas with Colonel Sanders and KFC. It's not something that exists outside of their restaurants. People go get it at their restaurants, celebrate it at their house, celebrate it with friends. It's like they own Christmas. And you can't have like other like like there must be some more generic fried chicken stores and your kids would be like,
Starting point is 01:11:30 oh no. I don't want to go to churches. Mom's got us churches for Christmas. We povo. Oh. How much did the Colonel sell KFC for? for jim said five million to be 300 million today came back that's pretty close it was he was offered five million and he he told them he wanted two million because he said he couldn't spend five million in his lifetime so he figured
Starting point is 01:11:59 he'll settle for two million dollars but they had to pay him in cash and so they brought him uh four uh carts with with half a million on each and he took security guards and he had the money rolled onto the set on the tonight show with johnny carson so he could show it to the audience uh because he said and the american people at home because he said you know you helped me get all this money i wanted to show it to you. What year was that? How old is Johnny Carson? What year was that? His dad.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Colonel Sanders died in 1980. So he was 90 years old. What year did he have all the money? To sell the restaurant. It would have been in the 60s. Carson was on. Yeah, Carson replaced Jack Parr, was the host of the night show way back. Oh, I thought he was
Starting point is 01:12:45 just the 70s 80s and 90s early 90s yeah yeah i don't think it was 90s i think in 80s he retired he was still on in the very early 90s wasn't he i don't remember yeah yeah yeah yeah jack's looking it up right now what do you got first jack because i remember him being referenced a lot in tv johnny carson yeah i've never seen a full episode but he stayed on as a figurehead right jim mentioned that oh yeah yes so so he must have gotten like but he stayed on as a figurehead but he would also show up up until a year before he died he even showed up at a restaurant and he would go in and just walk behind the counter and start picking everything up yelling at the and he would go in and just walk behind the counter and start picking everything up yelling at the employees he would throw things he'd make people cry because he felt
Starting point is 01:13:31 that the quality of the food was not as good as when he was making it um and so they would have to call corporate because they didn't want to call the cops and they'd have to call corporate and say yeah and he also would swear a lot and so they'd say the colonel's here he's swearing he's throwing things he's scaring the customers what can you please send somebody but he'd be scaring the customers but they'd also be like cool you'd love it like cool you'd love it you'd like this is the fucking best he just called that chicken a cunt they were like wait this guy's real this guy is incredible. That would be like if the actual Ronald McDonald walked into McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Yeah, and he was like, fuck you guys. What are you looking at? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is this not making me happy? Call this a burger? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's this toy? Plastic Chinese shit?
Starting point is 01:14:24 We used to sell a small sack of asbestos uh um what is the Claudia Sanders restaurant is it his sister that's KFT I think I said he's bitch sister yeah let's get it right of his sister well that's what he would have said now Now that I know more about him, that's pretty accurate. Claudia Sanders, is that a sister? No, Claudia was his second wife. So the colonel had a first wife, and then he started cheating on her with a younger woman that was working for him. And then he ended up marrying her.
Starting point is 01:14:59 They had a beautiful relationship. They were married until he passed away. And by all accounts, she would dote on him and really take care of him a lot. But as I mentioned, he didn't get along with the people that purchased KFC. So the first group purchased it from him for $2 million. Then they sold it a few years later, I think to R.J. Reynolds Tobacco, and they sold it for $200 million. And so he said, well, I should get some of that, which of course he was wasn't entitled to. So he then decided, well, I'll make my own restaurant and I'll call it the Colonel's Lady. And so that was he was going to have a franchise of Colonel's
Starting point is 01:15:36 Lady restaurants. And they eventually sued him and settled that he could call it Claudia Sanders Dinner House. It still still is it still exists today i've eaten there um they're the only place they say that can serve the 11 herbs and spices recipe but they have their own chicken and their chicken breasts are bigger and the chicken was was really good there where's that at claudia sanders restaurant it's it's just outside of louisville kentucky and it's weird It's like a beautiful place. It's like this big old house. If the chicken's good, why hasn't that been franchised out?
Starting point is 01:16:09 I'll buy a franchise of Claudia Sanders. I think they can only have one. Her is the mascot. Her face. Yeah. Still with a goatee. Yeah. Great big fake breasts.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Now is the part of our show called- As big as the chicken. Yeah, yeah. We got big breasts. Now is the part of our show called We got big breasts. That's how you sell it. Claudia's Chicken Hut. What's that accent? It's more restaurant. We got some good breasts. I say, I say.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Stick with the other accent. Now is the part of our show called Dinner Party Bags. We ask our experts part of our show called Dinner Party Max. We asked our experts to give us some fact obscuring about the topic, even though a lot of these were already obscuring. Yeah, these are a lot of great dinner party facts. Do you have any other interesting, cool things about the Colonel Sanders, the KSE guy?
Starting point is 01:16:56 Okay, here's a good one. Colonel Sanders released three record albums. Now, he didn't sing on any of them, but they were all listed as uh with his name on below the title as if he did the first one was called christmas eve with colonel sanders and i know you're thinking well that's only one day of the year so he put out his second album christmas day with oh yeah both albums in japanese and then his third album is Colonel Sanders' Tijuana Picnic. I thought it was going to be Boxing Day.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Tijuana Picnic. And what type of songs are on these albums? He didn't sing on any of them. He didn't sing on any, but on that one, it's like Herb Albert and very similar style music. But yeah, he was very, I don't't know he wanted to have a tijuana picnic and the cover is him having a picnic with the whitest family that has ever existed there you go there it is jim do you want to pick it do you want a picnic nothing do you want about that at all did he what was his favorite swear word oh uh son of a i, son of a bitch. I know son of a bitch was his favorite.
Starting point is 01:18:05 He used it in every sentence. He would use it. He loved to curse. I mean, he really did. He would go on like some of the religious shows and he'd accidentally swear and then he'd apologize and talk about how it's his shortcoming. But he loved to swear. You know what I love about being a prolific swearer is that when people get to know that you do swear out in public and all that type of stuff, they just accept you.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Yeah. It's like even with all the other parents at the bus stop, I just give it a rip. Yeah. I feel like there's no way a chance just being different. I just fucking swear. Yeah, everyone knows what you do. Yeah, everyone knows what I do.
Starting point is 01:18:42 I'm a sweary guy. Guy Hutchinson, thank you so much. That was awesome. Son of a bitch. Please check out Guy's YouTube channel at Guy Hutchinson, and you can listen to his daily vlogs there, Pointless Nostalgia. Check out his podcast that he does with voice actor Dana Snyder. It's called Drunk on Disney, and then you can find him on Instagram
Starting point is 01:19:05 and X at Guy Hutchinson. He knows a lot about a lot of cool things, so check that out. I think we're going to have you on more podcasts, mate. You're always fun. You son of a bitch. You come on my cuntin' podcast, you goddamn
Starting point is 01:19:20 reckless son of a bitch. Son of a bitch is a good one. It's a good one. It looks like he would say son of a bitch. Son of a bitch is a good one. It's a good one. It looks like he would say son of a bitch too. Son of a bitch. Yeah, you bastard. You bastard is that son of a bitch. You got my fucking chicken recipe.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I didn't fucking make no fucking beef, you son of a bitch. You got to wrap it up. All right, guys. Thank you for being on the podcast mate if you ever find yourself at a party and someone comes up and goes they never made beef
Starting point is 01:19:52 at KFC go I don't know about that and walk away goodnight Australia

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