I Don't Know About That - Navy SEALs with Rob O'Neill

Episode Date: July 21, 2020

In this episode the team covers the Navy SEAL program with the help of Rob O'Neill (robertjoneill.com). Follow Us: Jim Jefferies Website: www.jimjefferies.com Jim Jefferies Instagram: https://www.in...stagram.com/jimjefferies/?hl=en Jim Jefferies Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JimJefferies/ Jim Jefferies Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimjefferies   Forrest Shaw Website: www.forrestshaw.net Forrest Shaw Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forrestshaw/ Forrest Shaw Twitter: https://twitter.com/forrestshaw Kelly Blackheart Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kellyblackheart/   Jack Hackett Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/Jack_hackett/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 You might learn this on I Don't Know About That with Jim Jefferies. Hi, I'm Jim Jefferies. Welcome to I Don't Know About That with me, Jim Jefferies. I'm here with Kelly, Jack and Forrest. I've done away with saying your second names because I can't get them right. Really, when I say can't get them right, I can get Jack and I can get Forrest second names right. But Kelly, it's Black Hearted, Zabilski, Zabinski, all these different- Well, it's Kelly Bear now. Kelly Bear.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah, Kelly Bear. We had it- Okay, if you listened to the last podcast, we all- I got wasted, and then this nice crew of people that we're with right now joined me afterwards, and we took mushrooms. Yes, sure. We all got fucked up on mushrooms for Jack's birthday,
Starting point is 00:03:34 and if Jack's mum's listening, he didn't do anything. Don't worry about it, Mrs. Hackett. Calm down. I was supervising. Yeah, he was supervising, and we had a wonderful time. Forrest didn't take mushrooms because you had something else going on the next day. You left earlier. But there was one stage at about 2 in the morning,
Starting point is 00:03:52 and we'd all taken everything, and everyone was sort of in different bits of the garden and all that type of stuff. I said, Jack, it's your birthday. What do you want to do? And quick as a whip, you can answer, Kelly. Quick as a whip, what did Jack say? Can we watch Jackass 2? Can we watch jackass too can we watch jackass too it's good right now that seems like such a weird thing to have out can we watch jackass and then i go seven years old
Starting point is 00:04:13 no i'm not because of jackass too just like can i watch this program no jim was like it's your birthday what movie do you want to watch and without any hesitation at all jackass too like flew out of his face and i was like how did you have that at the ready like how did you know he's gonna ask if you well because he told me he told me later that him and his brother loved jackass 1 but they didn't really refine the movie experience until jackass 2 and then jackass 3 they lost the plot a little bit the storyline wasn't as good oh that's what happened jackass 4 is going to answer all the questions we need to know so so me me Jack, and Whitehead got on the sofa.
Starting point is 00:04:48 We watched Jackass4 because we were on Mushroom. It's funny anyway. They're funny films. We laughed our asses off. And my girlfriend and one of her friends were talking in the corner. And Kelly, you were out talking to Isaac in the yard. Everyone else was separate. And I thought, why don't any of the girls message?
Starting point is 00:05:03 I turned to Jack. And this is maybe the funniest sentence I've heard come out of a person's mouth. And I was high. And I went, Jack, I said, what is it with girls? Why don't they understand that this is funny? Watching Jackass, right? And Jack turned to me and very earnestly said, because they're not as smart as us,
Starting point is 00:05:22 now let's watch them ejaculate this horse. They're not as smart as us. Now, let's watch them ejaculate this horse. They're not as smart as us now. Shh, quiet down. They're about to jerk off a horse. And then they drink it. It's a good program. Yeah, and then we were like, women are dumb. Yeah, we are fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Why can't I see the entertainment value in that? Why don't they, like chick flicks, why don't you want to watch a man drinking horse cum that he's just jacked off? You're a simplistic bunch, Kelly Bear, I tell you. You know, yeah. I've seen too many home videos of that, so I don't need to watch Jackass.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Well, she should mention that they're her home videos. Well, it's my horse. Am I going to let somebody else jack off my horse? I don't think so. Yeah, there was, what's the name? The woman who allegedly had the affair with David Beckham many years ago. else jack off my horse i don't think so yeah there was there was what's saying the woman the woman who the woman who uh allegedly had the fair with david becker many years ago there was like an assistant or something like that i can't remember she was like this british woman she had an affair
Starting point is 00:06:14 with and then posh was very upset about it and all that stuff and then she got fired from her job and then after that um she just did the reality tv rounds in Britain. And she got on a program which was like reality stars farming, right? And you know how farmers have to get the cum out of an animal to induce another animal, right? And I believe it was a pig. They said she had to wank off the pig. This is on normal British, this is on the BBC. She had to wank off a pig and they go,
Starting point is 00:06:43 and the guy's talking, he's like, normally it takes four to five minutes. And she was like this, done. She got the cum out of this pig so fucking fast. You weren't supposed to use your mouth. That's the thing is now you're like, I see what David did there. I see why he was wooed by this lady. How are you, Forrest? You being very quiet?
Starting point is 00:07:03 You're all good? I'm good. I was just reading something online. Yeah. They're coming up for this specific episode. Well, would you like to introduce our guest now? Before we introduce the guest, I can see the guest on the screen. I already know who this guest is. This guest is a friend of mine. So this is going to be the easiest quiz you're ever going to do. No, we're not. We're not quizzing on whether you're friends with him.
Starting point is 00:07:22 No, but I know who it is. Yeah, but you didn't know ahead of time. So I can I can do the quiz right now if you like. If you want to. Well, let me introduce our guest. Our guest today is is Rob O'Neill, a former U.S. Navy SEAL. His book, The Operator Firing the Shots That Killed Osama Bin Laden
Starting point is 00:07:38 and My Years as a SEAL Team Warrior is available everywhere. And also go to his website, Robert J. O'Neill. That's R-O-B-E-R-T-J-O-N-E-I-L-L.com. And he's got all sorts of apparel and stuff on there, and you can check out everything on his website. Thank you for being on the show, Rob. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:07:57 G'day, Rob. Thank you for having me, man. It's awesome to be here. So first question, have you wanked off a pig on TV? Is that just funny? I was sitting there listening to you guys talk about that. It reminded me of that joke, how you stop a dog from pumping your leg. Just suck his dick. Now, we should say that Rob killed Bin Laden with laughter. So if you don't know Rob, Rob was in SEAL Team 6.
Starting point is 00:08:24 You did the lone survivor you did captain phillips you were the actual operative who shot the movies no he didn't do the movies he's not a real hero like mark walberg yeah you didn't beat up like an asian dry cleaner back in the day did you anyways google it people google it it's very disturbing walbert um yeah so today we're going to be talking about the navy seal program specifically and um that's what we're going to see how much you know about jim you've been friends with rob now for some time a couple of years me and rob you should know you should know something the first thing jim ever said to me as he came out on his back porch said where's the cunts who killed bin laden well there was a lot of big guys with tattoos.
Starting point is 00:09:07 You brought some of your other Navy SEAL mates, right? I had to bring security. I've seen you fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One time in LA, I get a phone call from Rob that he goes, I'm over at my friend's house. I'm completely hammered. Oh, my doorbell's ringing here.
Starting point is 00:09:22 He goes, I'm completely hammered. He goes, with my friend Charlie, come over. And I thought friend Charlie was code word for something, right? I was like, all right, I'll be involved with that. I'll be involved with that. I go to my girlfriend. I go, can I go out? I was still with Kate.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I was like, can I please go out in the middle of the night and visit Rob? And she's like, all right, just be back in time. Anyway, it was Charlie Sheen. Oh, what a fucking night that was. Rob was legless by the time I got there. It was a nightmare for me. And it was even the Charlie Sheen voice. I said the next day, I was like, I think I had a bottle and a half of scotch at your house. And he went, I know that was impressive. When Charlie Sheen says to you, we better take care of this guy
Starting point is 00:10:05 he's the guy that we can always call whenever I have a bad night he's like give me a call and I'll make you feel better and I called him one time and he said yeah we start a party in West Hollywood on a Wednesday and I woke up Sunday morning in a hotel and I went up I figured you know I'm in the
Starting point is 00:10:23 lobby hotel I might as well get a room to sleep it off. And as I'm walking up, I realized. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Stop. You woke up in the lobby in the hotel? No, I didn't. Charlie did.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Oh, okay. Well, that's. He said he was walking up Sunday morning to get a room and realized no one was speaking English because he was in Italy. I do love that Charlie Sheen is now your therapist. Anytime you're having a bad night. No, he's good. I mean, he's famously sober now and doesn't smoke anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Doesn't do anything. No, no, no. He was stone sober when we were there. Rob was the problem. And I indulged. But I remember because I sat there and we just brought out the Jim Jeffery show. It was like season one. And we had a promo on the Jim Jeffery show where I just said controversial things down camera and I was like
Starting point is 00:11:08 one of the jokes was I go when America tells other countries not to have nuclear weapons even though they have all the nuclear weapons that's like Charlie Sheen telling you don't take coke right and so so I forgot we'd even done this promo because we did so many of those lines over and over again so Charlie's sitting there and he just looks at me and he goes I know you and I was like no we've never met no I know you and then he just kept on staring at me
Starting point is 00:11:36 and an hour later he goes you told everyone I take coke on television I went probably feels like a pretty safe joke to make. And he seemed angry at first, and then the next hour he goes, you know what? I'm honored. You could have picked anyone. Well,
Starting point is 00:11:54 you're one of the top. You're one of the top. Not anyone. Well, I mean, I even saw just typical American bullshit. I saw a sign, it's been going around the web. It's outside of a pub in the UK, and it said, all Americans must be accompanied by an adult. All right, let's start.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Here's how this is going to work. Give me a question. Jim's going to tell us everything he thinks he knows about the Navy SEAL program. I'm going to help along with some questions. And when he's done, Rob, you're going to grade him from 1 to 10, 10 being the best on how accurate he was. He's going to grade him one through 10 on his confidence of his answers. And I'm going to grade him one through 10 on et cetera.
Starting point is 00:12:32 If he gets a combined score of 21 to 30, you are Andre the seal. He's now dead. He was in a movie for 11 to 20 seal of approval. Zero to 10 leaky seal. That's what you'll be. All right. Andre the seal. Yeah, it's a movie. That was one of the weaker wesley wrestling names well he's really slippery
Starting point is 00:12:52 here comes andre oh he's doing the flipping on the ground move you've never seen andre the seal the movie no has anybody seen it come on andy was actually played by a sea lion. That's the controversy. So is it like that movie where Joey from Friends works with a chimp that becomes a pitcher in the major leagues? I don't know much about it. I think it's a seal that solves crimes. In saying that, whenever you saw Matt LeBlanc do a movie, for years after Friends, I always used to look at it like, oh, Joey got a role.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Finally. Maybe he's not a terrible actor um yeah so someone will write it and i'm sure tell us what andre the seal's about actually shut up everybody shut up out there about facts by the way all right here we go um when and where was the navy seal program formed uh it was it it was formed in America. I'm going to say that place where they all train near the golf course, say in Augusta or something like that. What's that fort they all, you know, Jack, what's that fort?
Starting point is 00:13:57 Fort Augustine? I don't know. No, not fort. There's a fort. There's something point, three points or something. Anyway. West Point? You said Augusta. West Point.
Starting point is 00:14:06 It was done in West Point. It was done in West Point. And I'm going to say it was probably formed, the Navy SEAL program was probably filmed, started after World War I when you went, oh, we better take this up a gear, right? So just before World War II, I believe, Navy SEALs were invented.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So I'm going to say 1930, right? 1930. upper gear right so just before world war ii i believe navy seals were invented so i'm gonna say 1930 right 1930 i i'm writing this all down rob don't worry we'll revisit it i have his answers written down i got it i got a pen we're all writing furious it's out of ink already rob rob's got a pen he's already killed 14 people i always look at people like rob like we know the the SAS as well, me and Forrest, because the SAS are the kick-ass team from Australia. That's who Australia has. And we've gone out and we've trained with them. And you know about the SAS, Rob.
Starting point is 00:14:52 They're the same type. And whenever they come to my shows and they always chat to things like, I go, what have you guys been up to? Oh, we saved someone who was kidnapped or they say something like that. Me and Forrest always turn to each other and go, they're genetically the same people that we are i was with uh i was with my youngest daughter today she's uh she's 12 and she's we're watching something on tv she's into a lot of this uh uh sociopathic uh shit uh documentaries and she said
Starting point is 00:15:20 something about serial killers she's like i never want to meet a serial killer. I'm like, honey, you're in a room with a serial killer. She's going to sleep well tonight. Yeah. Well, she's the one I'm going to bring when I need to bury the bodies. I promise. All right. So, so SEAL Team 16. What does SEAL stand for?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Oh. S-E-A-L. Oh, I didn't know it was meant something. You think it just seals? Yeah, I thought it was something to do with they did a bit of swimming. He's like, well, what does he stand for? The only non-offensive mascot. Soldiers even actually lie.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I don't know. I think it's C-A-R-E-N-L-A-N-D. C-A-R-E-N-L-A-N-D. I think that's my guess. That's my guess. What's the E for? I think it's C-E. I think they're lacing did S-C or C.
Starting point is 00:16:07 C-E-R-O-R-L-A-N-D? And all of them. It's all C-E-R-O-R-L-A-N-D. They do it. Jack might have up to there. They do everything. They do everything. I'm going to say Jim got it wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah. How does one become a Navy SEAL? You start off as a normal soldier, and then they see you, and they go, you're all right, you. You're all right. You're just a normal soldier and then they see you and they go, you're all right, you. You're all right. You're just a regular soldier. And they go, nothing wrong with you, mate. And it's like you get into a fight in the cafeteria
Starting point is 00:16:32 and you kill someone with a toothpick. And they go, normally we'd be angry, but you've done such a good job. We have a better job for you, right? And then there's a thing called Hell Week which is like like they have to they they drown them i think rob once told me that they they drowned him until he passed out and this might be another friend i spoke to they they drown they make you sleep deprived i have a friend who me and rob met through a photographer who took some photos of me and took some photos and like he was taking photographs of the the hell week type of thing and and what it is, is for one week, they don't sleep for the entire week.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And there's something like 200 people apply. And then like five or six of them come out the end of it. And they go, they're the ones. And that's the training that they have to go through that's above and beyond. Now, I'm sure there's other training that goes along with it. And that's how they become SEALs. What is the official motto of the Navy SEAL? You get what you get, you don't get upset.
Starting point is 00:17:31 You are crushing this. Did you read up on this? That's got to be something your mom said to you growing up, right? That's what you do. You get what you get, you don't get upset. That's a good rule for life, that one. Okay. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:17:42 You don't get upset. That's a good rule for life, that one. Okay. What do the different team numbers mean? So there's SEAL Team 1, 2, 3. I don't know. How many are there? What do they mean? Let's start with how many are there?
Starting point is 00:17:55 What do they mean? Okay. Well, I know that SEAL Team 6 seems to be doing all the operative missions that get sent in. So I assume there's got to be six SEAL teams at least. I'm going to go there's a couple above it. I'm going to go there's eight and each team is about 30 odd
Starting point is 00:18:09 fellas, right? Maybe some women as well, right? And SEAL team one is catering. SEAL team one does the catering. SEAL team two is head of recreation and events, just like when you go to Club Med, the leisure people.
Starting point is 00:18:29 They organize board games and talent shows. That's like the USO. Yeah, yeah, they organize that. We've got a luau tonight. SEAL Team 3 is in charge of cleanup. They're sanitation. They come in and they go, Oh God, put Bin Laden in a sack, will you?
Starting point is 00:18:50 They're in charge of cleanup. SEAL Team 4, education. They teach the other SEAL teams, like have good manners and here's what you do with a Swiss army pocket knife and different ways to kill. They're more like they're all,
Starting point is 00:19:08 they're what they are. They're the oldest seal team, six people. And they've been moved down to four to teach up the other people. Yep. No one's half the battle. Yeah. Seal,
Starting point is 00:19:16 seal teams. Yeah. Joe. Yeah. Seal team five. Horace just shook his head. It's total disapproval. Seal team five.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I want the court call the distractions. So they're put out, they're decoy Seal Team. Yeah, it's a doo-wop group. Yeah. Yeah. Seal Team 6, we know what Seal Team 6 is. They go and do all the shit. Seal Team 7, they're in charge of music.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And that's all I've got for you. But I think that's enough. If we think about the other night, I guess I'm on team seven you're on still team seven hell yeah good job for me what um so you mentioned women uh have there ever been any women that have become a navy seal oh i'm sure we would we would we would have had some women who become navy seal and i you know i i bet you i bet you there was some some women and i bet you i would also go out and say that there's been some seals that have become women i bet you there's some transgender folk who have started off as a seal and then like become women okay navigated that all right so uh the seals are in the ums are in the military branch, Navy,
Starting point is 00:20:26 because we've said that, Navy SEALs. Navy SEALs, yeah. They're in the Navy. What in other types, other branches of the U.S. military, I don't know if you know how many there are, but maybe name those, and then what would be their counterparts in those? Okay, so you've got the Air Force.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah. You've got the ground military. They're just called the Army. Uh-huh. Air Force, air. You got the ground military. They're just called the Army. Uh-huh. Air Force. Air. Water. Land.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. Yeah, that's all of them. That's it? Tree climbers. What do you mean? That's it. That's it. Air.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Okay. So Navy, Army, Air Force. That's it. Okay. And then what? So what would be the equivalent of the SEAL program in the Army? In the Army, because Marines sounds like it's a water one as well. Tricky.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah. I know the Air Force are the Airwolves, and the Army is the A-Team. Okay. You are doing so good. I know, Rob. I'm scared of him in many ways. But B.A. Baracus could kick his ass. I just know he's just trained up better. Even at this age?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Oh, not this age, but in his peak, Mr. T would bring you pain. They were four elite soldiers that were in hiding with vehicles with all red stripes on the side and a large black guy with a mohawk with gold jewelry. They were pretty good at keeping it on the down low yeah what percentage of seal trainees drop out before finishing the program uh i would say 95 95 okay and uh who is the highest ranking navy seal in history and what was his rank uh it was uh it was uh joe finkel wow yeah that's from another episode It was Joe Finkel. Wow. That's from another episode, Rob.
Starting point is 00:22:07 You don't know. He was one of the first guys to go to the moon, too. He's been fucking busy, dude. He got so high rated, he became an astronaut. I'm sure many of them become astronauts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it Ray Finkel or Joe Finkel? It was Joe Finkel.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Ray Finkel is from, what do you call it? Ice Ventura. No, no, no. Joe Finkel's the astronaut. Joe Finkel the astronaut was Joe Finkel. Ray Finkel is from, what do you call it? Ice Ventura. No, no, no. Joe Finkel's the astronaut. Joe Finkel the astronaut was your number one. Number one. And I'm going to say, was John McCain a Navy SEAL or was he just a normal army guy?
Starting point is 00:22:37 But he was Air Force, John McCain. He got shot down in a plane. I think you answered your own question. Yeah, so he was Airwolf. Airwolf. Airwolf McCain. Okay. That's what they called him in the Senate. on a plane. I think you answered your own question. Yeah, so he was Airwolf. Airwolf. Airwolf McCain. That's what they called him in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Okay. Seals are considered the most effective when striking from where? From behind. Some of these topics, at some point, we just can stop asking questions we'll ask a few more what's the most effective way to attack anyone it's not the most chivalrous but it's definitely the most about or the most effective when kicking in the nuts yeah there you go um let's see here it's gonna um uh Do the fleshlight one because I want to know from Rob if that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Well, I think you kind of, that's kind of just the thing. Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. What does fleshlight have to do with the assassination of Osama bin Laden? Fleshlight, the thing you shove your dick in. Those little things that are molded from other, from women's vaginas. Yes, you got it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 They don't feel like vaginas. I've given them a go, and their cleaning is ridiculous. You can't clean them. They're one and done. You come inside that thing or even just lubricant, and it's like, what are you, shoving in your dishwasher? You're turning inside out? It's just not worth it.
Starting point is 00:23:57 You put soap on your dick and stick it back in. It's too elaborate a wank, too elaborate. I just like to grit it out dry hand move on with me day well now that we know your personal opinion about Flashlight what does it have to do
Starting point is 00:24:09 with the assassination of Osama Bin Laden Osama Bin Laden was fucking one that's the most effective attack is to get him while he's in a Flashlight yeah he was in a Flashlight
Starting point is 00:24:22 no I know he was with a couple I know he had a couple of his wives actually stand in front because Rob's told me, or maybe one of his wives worked at the Home Human Shield. The bloke that was in front of Rob went up
Starting point is 00:24:31 and removed the wife off and then Rob shot him. That's how I know, that's what I think happened in the story. The fleshlight, I don't know, Rob had one on him at the time. And originally he pulled it out thinking it was a gun and it was like oh no and then embarrassing yeah they actually could have gotten him years earlier if the first time rob didn't try to shoot him with a flashlight
Starting point is 00:24:54 what rob had done is he shoved a whole lot of ping pong balls up there like it was from thailand and he just went like that and that's what that's what happened okay fact yep you got it um uh so what are here here's one um what are some common myths about navy seals uh common myths um that they're all men would be a common myth um that they actually have sealed dna in them is another common common myth yeah uh that they uh i well i don't know give me a hint on one of those no that's it no hints uh some of these already answered here let's see let's get a couple more and we'll get what's the relevance of jackpot or geronimo uh jackpot is what they like to say when they shoot a person and geronimo is what you say when you jump out of an airplane uh and it's something to do with the indian i was like i rob told me one thing once that i found very interesting was and you can reiterate this in a second if not
Starting point is 00:26:02 but like when they strap the attack dogs to their chest and they jump out of airplanes, the dogs love it because the dogs feel like... Or maybe an SAS guy told me this. Because the dogs feel like they've got their head out a car window the whole time. So animal people think it's cruel, but the dogs are like going,
Starting point is 00:26:18 woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! And then they have a handle on the dog. And the reason they take the dogs down is if someone's hiding in a ventilation shaft or something, they just get the handle on the back of the dog and they chuck the fucking dog up there that's how they do okay that's a good what kind of dogs do they use german shepherds okay that's what they prefer well they wanted to use other ones but the the germans were taught so much by the nazis that they're using the intel now to use german shepherds it's the same same reason we used a Nazi on the space program.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Okay. Let's just ask a couple more questions here. What are some Navy SEAL nicknames? Tubby. One of them is called Tubby. There's another guy who's really big who's called Tiny, and that's ironic. Are you doing specific Navy?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah, different place names. names actual people that were in the name okay yeah and and finkel was called who okay what what about shaggy to dope shaggy shaggy to dope is one of them um i think let's just ask this one who where do you say where do the seal team's orders come from and who do they report to the president they come from the president now the president would probably get advised by the minister of defense or whatever right but they were in Korea they minister of defense but they the minister of war or whatever yeah and and uh and the the like Rob speaks like Rob had to speak to Obama afterwards,
Starting point is 00:27:46 and he's met Bush, and he's met, I assume he's met Trump. Have you ever hung out with Jeffrey Epstein? Blink twice. No, you met him right before he died, right? You were sent on that mission, Rob. Don't fucking bullshit me. They sent some of our guys to go visit him in the solitary confinement. That's so weird.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm so sorry you had to see his suicide. That was horrible. That's been devastating. It's like the guy that killed himself by shooting himself in the back of the head three times. That's how I'd do it. Who was that guy? Who was that guy? That was recently.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Some guy got there. They said there was a suit. I forget who it was now. Listen, this is totally normal to do. You missed the first two. OK, I think we're good. I think Jim's really shown us how much he knows about the Navy SEAL program. And and so, Rob O'Neill, please grade Jim on zero on zero to ten,
Starting point is 00:28:43 timing the best on his accuracy of the navy seal program his his accuracy was shit but um yeah based on his enthusiasm i'm seriously going to give him a solid four yeah but you see this no you see this my accuracy with shit is a good thing that means they keep the secrets good right that people like me haven't found out what's going on so well done government well done, government. Well done. But you're only allowed to grade them in accuracy. Kelly grades them in confidence.
Starting point is 00:29:10 So if it's just accuracy, a zero, you'd say? No, no. I'd say, you know, a two. There's a couple things I'll bring up later. I'll give them a two. Okay, two. Killing it. Kelly, confidence?
Starting point is 00:29:20 I'm going to go confidence, a four. Four, yeah. Pretty weak. Et cetera etc negative three who would have thought i knew more about alcohol yeah i'm giving you a negative three and etc and so that gives you a combined score of three all right a leaky seal it's your lowest score i'm all right with that um all right uh let's get into it. Rob, Jim said that the Navy SEAL program was first he said Augusta, Georgia. Then he said West Point. And he said 1930 was a
Starting point is 00:29:52 year. Yeah. The issue with that is that West Point is Army and Navy SEALs are in the Navy. So West Point had nothing to do with it. And they were actually founded. The underwater demolition teams were founded in 1942. And that's the precursor to the Navy SEALs. But Navy SEALs were actually January 1, 1962. Oh, golly. And the reason they were started, the UDT, the underwater demolition teams, started when they were doing over-the-beach amphibious landings. And they called them the men with the green faces.
Starting point is 00:30:28 They would go in with a pair of shorts and a knife, and they'd look for obstacles to blow them up. So that's how it started. 1962, there was still UDT, and then they turned into Navy SEALs. And SEAL actually stands for Sea, Air, and Land. UDT was underwater. Nicely done, by the way. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah, Jack. And, yeah, so that's when it was founded. It's actually a funny argument because there was SEAL Team 1 and SEAL Team 2 at the beginning. SEAL Team 1, the odd numbers are on the west coast, the even numbers on the east coast. SEAL Team 2 still gives shit
Starting point is 00:30:59 to SEAL Team 1 saying that we were the first SEAL Team because we're three hours ahead of you. You didn't know that, did you, Forrest? I didn first SEAL team because we're three hours ahead of you. Right. You didn't know that, did you, Forrest? I didn't. That's why we're doing this podcast. So that leads – let's talk about that then.
Starting point is 00:31:16 SEAL Team – Jim said there's eight total SEAL teams and catering, recreation, cleanup. I think everyone heard that. See, I love that. And I want to give Jim complete credit for not having a clue but totally talking like he did. I got a hot wife doing the same fucking thing. Yeah, me and your wife are so similar.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It started off as one and two, and they switched areas of operations, one, two, and then six. And the way that it worked was two on the East Coast would do most of Europe and North Africa. That was called their area of operation. One was Korea down to Australia and over to – not that we're at war with Australia, obviously, but working with Australia, yes, and the Middle East. And then we started growing. So eight became North Africa, four became South America,
Starting point is 00:32:09 and then 135 and all that stuff. But the reason that SEAL Team 6 became about is there was one and two, and then a guy by the name of Commander Richard Marcinko invented SEAL Team 6 because he knew that if the Russians would know about one, two, and six, where the fuck are three, four, and five? And that's kind of how... And it's pretty cool. And the only way to get to 6 now is you need about 5
Starting point is 00:32:30 years at a SEAL team before you can get picked for the counterterrorism team. And there's two Tier 1 units, Delta Force and then SEAL Team 6. So the other teams do things, but SEAL Team 6, just in a nutshell, does the terrorism.
Starting point is 00:32:45 The high-profile mission SEAL Team 6 is going to get, because these are experienced Navy SEALs. Not that the other ones aren't, but these are the guys that are proven. Like the Bin Laden raid, they picked 28 of us by hand. Who's going to do what? Not that the other SEALs can kick some fucking ass, and I've seen them do it. But they're more of come to your house and rough you up fighting the streets where we're we're we're a lot like politicians we'll just come at night and stab you in the back are you are you the seal team six are you the the number one on earth because i've heard things like
Starting point is 00:33:17 about uh like gherkas right gherkas being the best soldier is that just a myth because they're that curvy knife you know it's you beatvy knife you know it's difficult to say because i've worked with so many great dudes the uh the sas in the uk the sas in in australia the special boat service sbs in the uk and like the norwegian jaegers uh delta force obviously other navy seals it's everyone's really the german comp swimmers are great the french swimmers are great um and it's difficult to say a lot, a lot of these men and women can do it. We just, um, um, I'm, I'm like my wife described me as the unluckiest lucky man in the world. Just right place, right time, positive attitude, trust your,
Starting point is 00:33:58 trust your boys and you can, you can do it. So are we the best? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe, maybe not, but there's so many great people on on our side that uh i feel fortunate and does does the other side does the other side when we're talking about you know north korea do they or the russians do they have their version of you is there is that what's there the russians do um the russians have the spetsnaz and i've worked with them actually and they're good um they're called i've never worked with other other groups and and they're you know the most uh talented fighting force i've ever dealt with face to face was
Starting point is 00:34:36 taliban uh because they grew up fighting and they know how to fight in the mountains and and it almost got to a point where it's it's like maybe we're not that good they just suck but right yeah so but the taliban were a crudely put together group i correct me if i'm wrong uh crudely put together group how did they get so good like like are they trained well they grew up fighting because we you know we trained them to fight the russians and people in afghanistan have fighting. All they know is fighting. But they're also some of the most generous people I've ever met. Would you say that we are responsible for the Taliban then? Because I know that we gave them the arms and we trained them up to fight the Russians
Starting point is 00:35:18 and all that type of stuff. Without America, does the Taliban exist? You know, no. I don't know. But I mean, that's the way war works. Like like right now, they're pissed off because they're saying, yeah, we're giving bounties to the Taliban to kill Americans like you don't need to give them money. They're going to do it for free.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Like the war is war. Like we were fighting China in Vietnam and then Russia was fighting us in Afghanistan. The enemy of my enemy is my friend type stuff. And it's, you know, you know, at the end of the day, it comes out of money. And you'd be a fool if you didn't think that everyone's got their hands in everything. It's like, oh, the Russians interfered in the elections. Well, of course they did. And we're doing the same thing there.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And we're doing the same thing in Venezuela. Like, it's just, you know, don't think everyone's a good player. I mean, we're almost to a point where we, you know. I don't know anything about Venezuela. The men have fucked it up for years. Are we in trouble with Venezuela? I haven't heard anything. I just The men have fucked it up for you here. Are we in trouble with Venezuela? I thought they were. I haven't heard anything.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I should probably look at the news. They have oil. Can I go there on holidays? I don't know. Jim said that Navy SEALs are recruited in the cafeteria after killing someone with a toothpick. See, that was 100% accurate. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:36:27 That's what he gave you that generous for. So you killed someone with a toothpick. No, what I said was they see someone who's pretty good and they go, you're all right, you. You come over to this group. Is that how it works? How were you recruited? No, the way it works is you need to volunteer
Starting point is 00:36:41 when you get there. And it's for any branch to be a Navy SEAL. Like one of the first things that I learned was always get it in writing. And that's a great lesson in life. I learned so many lessons in the military that I take to life. You know, don't do business on a handshake, get it in writing. You need to volunteer before you get there. And then they let you take a screening test to see if you can get orders to basic underwater demolition seal training which is we call it buds and then that's a a dropout rate
Starting point is 00:37:10 of about 90 percent um so it's it's uh of the of the guys i showed up with at a navy boot camp i think 200 um tried it and two passed and of two, they become a part of about 200 and of the 200, about 95, 90% don't make it through SEAL training. This might sound like a silly thing to say. This is a bit off the... You know when, like, there's a baseball team
Starting point is 00:37:36 and then they win the World Series, they get thrown a little bit of extra cash because you get incentives for getting to the playoffs and you get incentives for winning. Do you get, like, does the government go, get incentives for winning do you get do you get like does the government go ah you kill bin laden he's a in it you know a voucher at amazon or something do they give you something they don't give incentives um as far as uh rewards for killing people but they do give you um they
Starting point is 00:38:02 call them signing bonuses to be to maintain being a navy seal so they will they will pay you i think mine was my highest one was like 45 000 to re-enlist which at the time is great and then and it's it's funny the way you can work it too because you can always uh find your way overseas to augment and then you can re-enlist for um tax tax exempt money which is not a bad thing did you prefer being an ab being an ABC station here in America or did you like being stationed overseas doing the business? Or did you like it when it was... What I'm saying is, do you like it when business was quiet or did you like it when business
Starting point is 00:38:36 was busy? Well, I liked it when it was busy because I thought we were doing the right thing. And you learn more the older you get. But when I thought we were doing the right thing, you know, and you learn more the older you get. But when I thought we were doing the right thing, I really enjoyed being over there. But on the same side, I didn't like working for no reason because I am still to this day convinced that people in combat die because they got bored. So it's OK. It's OK to be over here for doing the right thing. But if something's just stupid but i don't believe in you know kicking the damn thing to see what comes up i don't believe in strike to develop bullshit like
Starting point is 00:39:09 we have a legitimate target i'm going to go with him i risk my life but if we don't have shit to do let's just let's not do shit let's let's play xbox there's no reason to go out because what i found in my um you know over 400 some combat missions is that most people are good people and we don't need to i remember walking walking through a house in Iraq at night, the wrong damn house and, and, and, and stomping mud from my boots on this. It was a woman and her daughter on her white carpet. And it was a wrong house. And I remember just looking at these two and just thinking,
Starting point is 00:39:40 I see why they hate us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, you should have taken. So I'd rather be busy than not. Bring some booties at least. Yeah, come on, man. Jim said the official motto of the Navy SEAL is, you get what you get
Starting point is 00:39:58 and you don't get upset. Is that correct? I don't even know why I'm asking if that's correct. I believe the motto was stay strapped or get clapped. Oh, yeah. It does rhyme, though, John. The saying is the only easy day was yesterday.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Oh, is that it? The only easy day? Yep. Oh, wow. Okay. Sorry about the sun, too. This is this warm Massachusetts sun blast. I just thought it was part of your training.
Starting point is 00:40:24 You have to stay hidden in the shadows. If anybody knows where he is for too long. That's not beer. Rob's drinking his own urine. Are there any women that have ever been a Navy SEAL? No. We do not have female SEALs, but we do have female operators, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And we would bring them with us because they had, I don't want to get into the tactics, but they had certain techniques that they were very good at that we weren't. They could nag the terrorist until eventually the terrorist would go, all right, enough already. When you go into a stranger's house, you don't want to put your hands on the family. But if a woman's there, it might be better so they can talk to them in the same languages. It's a different culture than we are. And so I'd rather have. And so we would bring we would bring women. And I've seen women before that, you know, walking through frozen swamps at night in Afghanistan in July, or sorry, in January, and every single Navy SEAL is bitching. Not one of the women said anything.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Just because, I mean, women are... Not for a few days. She just gave you the silent treatment. I can't believe we're fucking going through this frozen lake again. I'm a big believer, though, that, you know, I don't give a shit what you look like, where you're from whatever, if you can get through the training, don't lower the standards I'm proud to be
Starting point is 00:41:49 side by side with women, so I hope it happens I know I'm making just a lot of jokes about women but I'm doing that because they're funny but can you see a time when there will be female operatives who are like I would have thought that would already happen But can you see a time when there will be female operatives?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yes, 100%. Because I would have thought that would already happen. So how many Navy SEALs are there in the world? Right now, there's 2,500-ish. So 2,000 enlisted, 500 officers. Oh, wow. Okay. And we went through the other branches of the military. Jim said Air Force and Army.
Starting point is 00:42:26 He said Marines, but didn't say it was a branch, but that's another branch. That's another branch. Yeah. So you got Air Force, Army, Navy, Marines. So what would be the equivalent of the Navy SEALs in those other branches? Are there equivalents?
Starting point is 00:42:39 The Marines are technically part of the Department of the Navy. So the Navy is the Navy, and the Marines are the infantry in the Navy. Just off the subject very quickly, when you have your Christmas party, do you all dance in the Navy by the – I think the world would be a better place if we all just listened to the village people at least five minutes a day. The village people. You do a bit of YMCA and then you go, come on, boys.
Starting point is 00:43:05 One of them goes up to the DJ box and goes, put on in the Navy. We want you. We want you. Nothing against my beloved Navy, but I'm pretty sure that's where the phrase, don't grab my ears, I know what I'm doing, came from. I don't know about that, Rob. Army, Navy, the Air Force, and the Marine Corps. We all work together.
Starting point is 00:43:31 The Navy has infantry, the Marine Corps, and then they have an Air Force off the carriers. The Air Force, obviously, those are things that the Army is. The Army kind of runs everything. So Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines. Okay. Okay. Jim said the highest-ranking officer ever in Navy SEALs was Joe Finkel.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Joe Finkel. Yeah, Joe Finkel. I can't believe that's right. His name was actually Eric Olson. He was a four-star Navy Admiral. Why would I know that? No, nobody knows that. But he had a cool title because he was a four-star Admiral,
Starting point is 00:44:03 and he had a title called the Bullfrog, which is the oldest. We call him Frogman. So the oldest active Navy SEAL is the Bullfrog. What was your nickname? Nisro. Nisro? NSRO, Navy SEAL Rob O'Neill. Ah, Nisro.
Starting point is 00:44:20 No, but it was so my buddies, when I walked into the bar, they'd look at me and go, what up, my Nisro? Yeah, my Nisro. Nisro, please. I guess Tubby and Tiny were taken. Tubby and Tiny. Tiny's a real thing, too. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Thanks, Rob. Good night, Tiny. Keep it up, Jim. Keep it up. Flashlights and the assassination of Osama bin Laden. I don't know if this is true or not. Um, Kelly found this,
Starting point is 00:44:46 but we just want to confirm it. So Jim said that, well, he said that you had one and you were trying to shoot Osama with it, but what they, what fleshlight actually sent a case of fleshlights to seal teams. Six. When we got done with the mission,
Starting point is 00:45:02 um, it was their way of saying thanks. And how else are they going to do it? I mean, we got different cases of everything. Which porn stars were they? I know a few of these. This is something I do know about. It was from their stuff collection.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Those proofs threw them all away. I thought we could share them. Deployments are long. What's wrong with a flashlight? You could have all done a big circle jerk. You don't have any women's SEAL teams. This is when it comes in handy. There's nothing wrong with that. It's morale. If morale is high,
Starting point is 00:45:30 people are going to work harder. They all should have fucked the fleshlight. The bloody prudes came in there and stopped it. That's why comedy is different. The Times, me and Forrest have gotten in a room and fucked the fleshlight together. I believe it.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You could count on one hand. In fact, that's the only way to do it. Yeah, you can just repeat it. If everybody just fucked the flashlight, there would be no war. What's the relevance of jackpot and geronimo? Jim said jackpot is what you say when you shoot someone and geronimo is when you jump out of a plane.
Starting point is 00:46:03 This is the one that Jim knocked out of the park because he said jackpot is what you say when you shoot someone, and Geronimo is when you jump out of a plane. This is the one that Jim knocked out of the park because he said jackpot is what you say when you shoot someone. That's exactly right. Right. So jackpot means we got the guy we're looking for. Geronimo was a pro word. We never named Bin Laden Geronimo. What a pro word is is something that you say over the radio
Starting point is 00:46:24 to let them know where you are. So like, say if you named him after a stripper, when we get to the front door, the pro word is crystal. And then now we're in the hallway, the pro word is destiny, or blah, blah, blah. And we named the pro word Geronimo for Bin Laden. We didn't, we would never insult the American warrior Geronimo by naming Bin Laden Geronimo. It was an honor of him that Geronimo means we got, and that's for the native American Geronimo.
Starting point is 00:46:58 When I first met Rob and I've told this story to you before, but when we first met Rob, he was sitting around and everyone was just listening to his story and they were like oh this is fantastic and rob was going and then he goes and then rob goes and then i shot bin laden and then they said what did you say and then rob said i didn't say anything i was over barbecuing i was drunk he goes i didn't say anything he goes but if i had my time over again i would have said yahtzee and everyone was like everyone was like oh that, that's good. And I piped up, that's a stupid fucking thing to say.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Who's going to say fucking Yahtzee? And then Rob goes to me, he goes, oh, yeah, what would have you said that was so big, so good? And I go, I would have said, where you been, Lardin? I'm telling you. You couldn't put that in action movie better but the good wherever you've been if you did that bin laden would have killed himself so with laughter uh okay so jim mentioned dogs so the dog of choice for navy seals he said is a german
Starting point is 00:48:00 shepherd is that correct um no the dog of choice is a Belgian Malinois. Yeah, they look like German Shepherds, all right. Now, in Jim's defense, if you're going on a mission, you want a Malinois because they're very active. They're very hyper. They want to work. They jump 20 feet in the air. But if you're doing home defense like I do with my kids,
Starting point is 00:48:20 I got my kids a German Shepherd because German Shepherds are chill. They're a little bit bigger. They'll sleep when you want them to, but they'll tear your throat out. We used Dutch Shepherds, German Shepherds, and Belgian Malinois. The dog that we brought... Never Scottish Terriers? A Chihuahua?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Never had a cupcake dog? A Scottish Terrier is a dog of frail age. If you've got a whole lot of little tiny cupcake, teacup dogs. Ankle biters. Yeah, instead of just one big dog, you can have a sack of seven of them. And you can open up your sack and you pull out a little Scottish Terrier
Starting point is 00:48:59 and you go, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist. And then they're all at once. So SEAL Team 8 takes care of the puppy dogs. That's like the scatter bomb of dogs. Just then they're all at once. So SEAL Team 8 takes care of the puppy dogs. That's like the scatter bomb of dogs. Just hope they're alert for dogs. Keep one in your back pocket. Boom!
Starting point is 00:49:14 But the Belgian, those dogs. A Malinois is the Belgian Malinois. The ones we brought with us. Yeah, those are the same ones I think they had in John Wick 3. Those are the dogs that, I don't know if you saw it, maybe that Pally Berry has. They look like German Shepherds. I think they had in John Wick 3. Those are the dogs that, I don't know if you saw it, maybe that Pally Berry has. They look like German Shepherds. Could you beat John Wick in a fight?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Serious question. You know what? Yes. Yeah, sure. He's always just picking up things and throwing them and stuff like that. It broke a guy's head with a book. Before we leave the dogs out there. Before we leave the dogs,
Starting point is 00:49:47 Kelly found the fact that it says all the things that these dogs can do. Identify concealed humans, explosives, extremely fast runners. They can even operate a parachute? Well, that's not true. They can't operate a parachute, but they do skydive with us. They do skydive.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Yeah, they can't... They don't have thumbs, so there's a lot of things they can do. I thought they did with their mouth. Yeah. So, when I was – Yeah, because when we were skydiving the dogs, we have a motto, keep it simple, stupid.
Starting point is 00:50:14 The most basic thing you can think of is probably the best. And what we found out is we put the dogs in a big bag. It's called a kit bag, and it looks almost like a big beach bag that you can zip up and we found the easiest way is to burn holes hook it to your belly band and put the dog in and the dog's head's hanging out we had we actually named them doggles you put goggles and you can you can hear their tails beating inside of the uh the bag before the jump because they know they're about to work and they loved it. They, they,
Starting point is 00:50:45 they couldn't, I wouldn't put it past them. If we did jump and something screwed up, they could use a parachute, but yeah, these dogs were just, they're ready to rock and roll. They're,
Starting point is 00:50:52 they're, they're awesome. They're when I was in Iraq, I'm doing comedy for the troops out there. They took us around to meet all the dogs and that type of stuff. And there was one dog that I almost took home and I was only living in like a one bedroom apartment in London. And I really wanted to take this dog home because I think it was a Labrador. And it was a Labrador that was a bomb sniffing dog.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And that was its one thing. And this is like, cause you know, Labradors for like blind people. They're the most, this, this one was trained as good as a blind dog. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But what happened was with this dog, it had found a bomb and then it had been deemed useless after that because it's like i'm not gonna look for those because the bomb the bomb had gone off like near the dog and the dog was like that's what you were making me look for yeah oh fuck that i'm not doing that again so i thought this would be good i could have a dog that's super trained like move over there move over there move over there and if it ever gets angry at me i just go well we've had these dogs before and i've seen him with uh with ptsd um cairo the dog that we brought in the bin laden right had been shot in the chest in the arm of the paw before and um he remembers that and and just watching him try to you know before he before he goes through a door, just kind of like, seriously?
Starting point is 00:52:06 He's like, yeah, Cairo, you've got to get in there. But, yeah, the dogs, they're real people. Right. So that dog, if it sees like a bloke with a big beard, goes, oh, I'm not happy about this. Well, we had one of our dogs bit Tom Brady, the quarterback when he was at the Patriots. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 We were training up there, and we'd taken a picture the Little Birds came down, taking a nice team picture and Brady came out with his arms up and he's wearing a damn sweatsuit and the dogs were trained to bite the guy in the sweatsuit. Oh, I thought Brady came out in a burka.
Starting point is 00:52:40 When he bit Brady's throwing hand went through the dog's mouth and he bit Brady on the leg. And we're thinking, well, shit, if he bites Tom Brady's hand, we're never getting out of Boston alive. And Brady looked down and everyone was like, are you okay? And he said, yeah, but an inch to the left and Giselle would have been pissed. That would have been a great movie, getting out of a Boston alive
Starting point is 00:53:00 after Brady's death. Seal Team 6. Get over here. Where do SEAL Team's orders come from? Who do they report to? Jim says the president. That all depends. That all depends. If it's something like Bin Laden
Starting point is 00:53:17 or Captain Phillips, it probably comes from the president. It definitely comes from the Secretary of Defense who kind of runs it. Our guy is in Joint Special Operations, JSOC, in North Carolina. He decides whether or not it goes to Delta Force or SEAL Team 6. So it comes from basically from the Army. And believe it or not, the government is really good at delegating authority. So there are certain missions that are ordered already and you don't need authorization to a certain point.
Starting point is 00:53:50 You can just do it because it's been authorized. But if it's something to... Because we've got as far as bombing Americans in Yemen before, killing them that way or bin Laden or whatever. But it generally will come to the president for high-profile missions. Now, everyone's seen the famous photo of Obama and Hillary and all the other watching your mission. They're all sitting there watching that famous photo.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Were they speaking to you whilst it happened? I'm going to assume no. But how quickly did they speak to you after the mission was done? no but how quickly did they speak to you after the mission was done now this is this is a very cool story because that picture is is uh um right when our helicopter crash landed in the front yard and hillary's got her uh she was secretary of state at the time she's got her hands over her face president obama so fucking cool she She was aiding a mouth. How do we get rid of these? But he was in, President Obama was in a folding chair.
Starting point is 00:54:52 You can see him in the back left corner. And General Webb was an Air Force one-star general who, that wasn't the situation room. That was a room next to it. And he was the only one that could get the feed. So they came in there and President Obama, just being as cool as he is, he said, you know what? Just you sit here, General Webb, I'll sit in the back.
Starting point is 00:55:13 The president on pretty much the most significant mission in modern history is sitting in a fucking folding chair that you would sit at a Sunday barbecue. And what was happening was our boss, Admiral Bill McRaven. So Eric Olson, we talked about, was a four-star Navy admiral. Bill McRaven became, I think, the second. I could be wrong, but I think the second Navy four-star admiral was highest ranking. He was watching it, too, and he was talking to Secretary Panetta, Leon Panetta from the CIA, and he was relaying to the White House. And they saw us crash, and McRaven knew. He didn't know if we just lost half our team we just got proper fucked in the
Starting point is 00:55:47 in the ass but all he said over that was um okay obviously we've had a contingency but my men are prepared knowing that the White House flipping out right now is not going to help I'm just going to be an admiral I'm going to be the man of the room and he did that to Panetta Panetta told them so that's that's what they were hearing at the time they they didn't know what we were doing inside until we we said forgotten country geronimo and it was kind of like uh i mean it was it was badass it was it was there was no politics involved it was all uh uh our way of life us being um western society versus evil and and it was just very very cool i love that picture still do were you in the helicopter that crashed or no no i was in the other one. I didn't even know it crashed
Starting point is 00:56:26 until I got inside. Well, hey, where are these guys? Have you been in a helicopter that crashed? That's one of the things about combat, too. It doesn't matter how you got here, you're just here. I had no idea they crashed. We got in the house, and one of my boys said to me, hey, helicopter crashed. I said, what helicopter crashed? He said, our helicopter crashed.
Starting point is 00:56:42 You walk right past, and I'm like, well, I was looking this way. What helicopter crashed? Obviously, it wasn't your one. There's only two helicopters. As we're having this conversation, one of the snipers with the dog, Cairo, was running around.
Starting point is 00:56:59 He was doing a loop around the compound to make sure no one escaped. And he came over the radio and said, guys inside Bin Laden's house, be ready for this. They're ready for us because there's a training mock-up of our super secret helicopter in the front yard. And then the boss came, no, jackass, that's ours. We crashed. These guys are good. It's like, hey, can we please go upstairs and kill fucking Hassan? Have you ever been in a helicopter that crash is that like a normal yeah that was it sounds like
Starting point is 00:57:30 i wasn't in that one but i crashed i crashed twice before just like okay hey anyways that we were flying in um uh ones hueys old old school uh vietnam era the ones you see on like uh apocalypse now and the way the windows would go down in the front is like on the school bus where you like push the things in and you roll it down and i had this old school vietnam uh marine corps pilot he would always be flying and he'd be smoking cigarettes like he'd smoke up there take a rip and whatever and um i was in the back as a sniper i had another sniper in the back and then the crew chief here and the engine kind of blew and the pilot had to think on auto rotate
Starting point is 00:58:10 where he switches it up so we can not die and um i look back the engine blew the crew chief strapping himself in i look up at the pilot kid you not he he took his last drag off a cigarette he went fuck and he threw out the window and now we're uh we're rolling down and he ended up crash landing Kid you not, he took his last drag off a cigarette. He went, fuck. And he threw it out the window. And now we're rolling down. And he ended up crash landing into a ship, the USS Austin. And so he landed in the flight deck, kind of almost hit the skin of the ship. And he knew damn well from the layout of the ship that there's a chow hall right inside this door.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And he goes, fuck it. Who wants lunch? It's a lot of fun um everything seems to be fun it's like i'd be terrified i'd be in trouble and he's like and then we went at lunch uh who wants salisbury steak is there like a navy seal bar like where you guys all hang out yeah the ready room in Room in Virginia Beach, Virginia is the one on the East Coast. And then what's the one in Coronado? I'll set my tongue here. McPease in Coronado.
Starting point is 00:59:16 We went to one in Australia, the SAS one. Were you on that trip? No, I wasn't there, no. Okay, so the trip. And one of the SAS, and it's in Cottesloe, and they took us to this bar, and then at the end, we all started drinking out of a leg. Yes, yeah, someone's leg.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah, yeah, someone's leg, and they're like, oh, you're part of the crew now. You've got to drink out of the leg. And then it turned out it was like some terrorist who couldn't run as fast as the rest of them. Oh, no. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I'm just reading something that says on Seal, you can go and watch Seals train as a tourist like down in San Diego. Yeah, they jump through hoops. They balance balloons on their nose. It's fucking great. This doesn't seem, that's true. Well, no, that's true. Well, no, it's true because when I got on the speaking circuit back in 2014,
Starting point is 01:00:11 I gave a speech in Coronado. I was at the Hotel Del Coronado right next to where the SEALs train, and I was outside having a beer and a smoke, and I watched some of the boats drifting by there in Hell Week, and I thought, man, those poor – ah, fuck them. They'll be fine yeah you can watch them and when you do public speaking now what is the do you just get up and tell your story or are you meant to motivate people to like you do team building what do you
Starting point is 01:00:37 do you know what it's it's more of um i always tell people if a guy like me from butte montana who can't swim ends up at seal Team 6 and been in Lon's bedroom, that if you can do anything – like I always tell people, I could be on the cover of like Decent Shape magazine. But yeah, just – it doesn't matter what you look like or where you're from, you can do anything. So positivity, get rid of the negativity. Well, not anything.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I could train all bloody day, every day of me life, and I'll never make the fucking NBA. I'll tell you that for nothing. You've got to have some. I look at you. We have our one percenters like LeBron and Michael Jordan. No, but you're a one percenter, Rob. You're a one percenter.
Starting point is 01:01:17 You just said 200 people trained. Only two of you got through. You're not good with the maths but you are a one percenter that's that's what one percent all is made i could i could never do what you do i don't have the mental capacity for it do it one day at a time you know yeah you don't want a guy who makes loads of jokes on those missions these jim can you shut the fuck up we really have to be serious and i always come in late with jokes. Hey, who wants dinner? Ah, fuck.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Someone else already did it. We forgot to ask you this question, Jim. Chris Kyle, you familiar with him? Chris Kyle? I know that name. The American Sniper? Yeah, yeah, yeah. American Sniper, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:58 His nickname, did you know that? That was one of the questions I was going to ask. And I don't know if you knew Chris Kyle, but that would be very quick. They called him Coops because he looked like bradley cooper 100 percent um this says the devil was his nickname his nickname was the legend the legend internet's wrong again that well he was he was cool because uh he the reason he became so famous was his book american sniper came out the week we killed bin laden so we killed bin laden on on sunday monday his book came out and then uh he sent me it was fucking awesome he sent me a signed copy of his
Starting point is 01:02:38 book that i still have so it came in the mail and i remember thinking the last thing I want this week is a signed copy of a book from a fucking Navy SEAL. And I opened it and all I said was great shot, Chris Kyle. I was like, this is the coolest fucking thing I've ever heard. SEAL Team 6 and also Chris Kyle's PR team is what you guys did because the timing of that was perfect for his book sales. He looks a little like Chris Pratt, actually. I think. Oh, yeah. His publishes are great.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And what about another famous... I don't know. Was he a Navy SEAL? Jesse Ventura? He was a Navy SEAL? Yeah. He was a Navy SEAL in the Vietnam era. I don't know. I've never met him. I love the fact that he won
Starting point is 01:03:24 the governorship as an independent in Minnesota. I've never met him. I love the fact that he won the governorship as an independent in Minnesota. I've never met him. Loved him. He seems like a good dude. Some of his scenes on Predator are awesome. Yeah, but he's a big conspiracy guy. Thermite paint on the 9-11. I love his voice.
Starting point is 01:03:39 There was thermite paint. He does. He does. A lot of people talk shit about each other. I just can't about him. Like I know this really, what do you think about all the people who have all the 9-11 conspiracies?
Starting point is 01:03:50 That must really, and there's also a lot of people who have conspiracies about your mission that Bin Laden wasn't killed. We never saw a shot of the body. The body was thrown in the ocean before we could say anything. That must really piss you off.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And what do you say to those people? Well, it doesn't piss me off, but it's just I get conspiracies from both sides. And it's the right wing that comes up with the bin Laden stuff because they refuse to admit President Obama gave the order, which he did. And then the left wing hates others. Well, you know, whatever. If you're too far left, too far right, you're fucking crazy. But it doesn't matter. But I mean, it's, it's like,
Starting point is 01:04:25 I'm looking at my kids right now. I said goodbye to them and I had the last meals with them and I kissed them goodbye. And I, I went after Bin Laden with my team, knowing we're going to die because of the people who jumped out of the towers. It was very, very real. And, and it was, it was going to be an ending for me. I mean, I'm over, I'm over getting pissed about haters but um i mean it's it's most conspiracies i don't buy anyway like i've been to area 51 i'm not sure if i could say that mariam if you want what did you say what i mean you know you know at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:04:58 most things you hear are true the easiest the easiest explanation is is is real and most people are good um did did are there photos of like yeah oh yeah we have my i want to i'm actually lobbying to get them released they they need to be seen i have it's my hands on his head putting it together with smoke coming on his his tongue sticking out they're real and it's it's like i kind of want to tell people that um that you know justice was served and you don't even know And it's like, I kind of want to tell people that, you know, justice was served and you don't even know what it looks like. But on the other hand, me with a beer in my hand, you know what? Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Here's his brains. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck it. Okay. So we have a thing. This is a weird transition, but we do a thing on here. That's a good thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:39 No, no, no, no. For what I'm going to say. But thank you for being on the show, first of all. But before we wrap up, we always like to give our listeners at home something we call like a dinner party fact, like something that you as the expert on what we're talking about can give them at home so that they can impress somebody with their knowledge of Navy SEALs and Navy SEAL programs, SEAL Team 6, the bin Laden, anything like that. If you have anything that you can think of that would be
Starting point is 01:06:06 i have two funny facts to prove that bin laden was a chauvinist okay um one is that his 28 year old wife was on the third floor with him in bed and the two 50 year olds were downstairs maybe they couldn't get up the stairs he didn't put one of those lifts in and then uh two is that navy SEALs hate water. What? What? Yeah. Oh, we get tortured with water to the point that we'll walk 10 miles out of the way to not get our feet wet.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Oh, because of that water torture and all that type of stuff. Torture, torture, torture. And great whites are polite. Great white sharks are polite. Yeah. They say, thank you, but they eat you. It's because they're Australian. I saw 31 of them eight months ago. I dove with 31 different great ones.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Yeah. I'm with you on that. I think sharks get a bad rap. They get a bad rap. Fuck a bull shark. A bull shark can eat a dick. I would say don't fuck a bull shark. They might.
Starting point is 01:06:57 No, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Definitely don't try to fuck a bull shark. Well, Rob, before we want to go, just on a personal level, I just want to say thank you for everything you do, and you're a true hero. I'm not going to say like an American hero. You're just a hero of the world, man.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Thank you. And you've given us a great service in this country, and you're a good friend as well, more importantly. So I look forward to the next time we drink together or whatever we're going to get up to. I should be out there soon. I'll definitely call you when I get the desk in front of me. I appreciate this.
Starting point is 01:07:28 The last time I saw Rob, right, it was late at night. He rings me up and he goes like this, Jim, I've just done stand-up comedy. I want to come over to your house and talk about it. And I'm like, all right, come over to the house. He comes over with a couple of his mates and he goes, oh, I did stand-up comedy. I'm like, fucking hell, that's good, man.
Starting point is 01:07:46 It's not easy, you know? And then later on, I find out it wasn't stand-up comedy. You had David Spade speaking in your ear. It was for David. David Spade and Whitney Cummings were totally feeding me, but, you know, I get nervous as shit. I'm in front of people. Look, I'd be a good stand-up comic
Starting point is 01:07:59 if I had David Spade and Whitney Cummings feeding me jokes. I just want to remind everybody rob's book is called the operator firing the shots that killed us on the bin laden and my years as a seal team warrior please uh find that and buy that and then visit his website robertjoniel.com also i forgot to mention you're partial owner of the seawolf brewery now too where's that at that is true yeah we're gonna uh we're gonna we we've freshly run out but we're gonna be brewing very soon so the sea wolf brewery check it out we got uh actually jim might like this the reason i got on board is because they named a an ipa after me called special
Starting point is 01:08:35 hops where's that brewery at they named it after me just called special virginia beach we got to get it rolling it's very good. It's all military branded. We got a couple. I'll tell you the secret ones later. Secret beers. Thank you very much. Awesome seeing you guys. Seriously, thank you.
Starting point is 01:08:56 The last section of our show today is I do know about that. We forgot to do that in all of our drinking. Imagine that. Today's topic is quokkas. Quokkas. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I mean, do you know anything about Rob? Do you know anything about quokkas? No, I'm dying. Yeah, I'll tell you. Tell everybody what a quokka is. A quokka is a small marsupial. It comes from the kangaroo family, although it has a tail of a rat.
Starting point is 01:09:24 It's about the size of a soccer ball, and it only lives on an island called Rottnest Island. And there's many, many of them. They're very friendly animals. And the Rottnest comes from the Dutch. When the Dutch found the island, they thought they were large, large rats, and it stands for Rattnest Island.
Starting point is 01:09:39 And that's where that comes from. But if you ever Google quokka selfies, quokka, Q-U-A-K-K i believe q u o k k q okay and uh they're a very approachable animal very approachable they'll stand next to you while you have selfies and they're everywhere over the island they're not hard to find but don't don't pet them don't pet them don't feed them now they do exist on another rottenest island and there's one called bald island right there's a couple thousand right i didn't know that and there's about four thousand on the mainland but the bulk of them twelve to sixteen thousand live on rottenness island off of the coast of purse the reason i'm bringing this
Starting point is 01:10:11 up though too that we did is a topic uh there's a twitter handle called quokka every hour and it's at q u o k k a and then every hour and they literally post a picture of quokka every hour so if you want to put something in your twitter feed that isn't just going to upset you, and these times, it's nice to have a quokka pop up every hour. So just follow them, have this cute little animal pop up. It'll make you smile
Starting point is 01:10:35 because they're always supposedly smiling. I remember I took my son to see a quokka. We went to the island. My son was about two or three at the time. And it was just lovely for a child to be able to walk up to an animal without the animal running away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 And they're very personable. I have a great selfie on my... Forrest took loads of selfies with the quokkas. I have a picture of Jim taking a selfie with a quokka. Inception of quokkas. I'm just going to ask you a few questions about quokkas, see if you know. How long does a quokka live?
Starting point is 01:11:03 I'd say a quokka would have a lifespan of 14 years. 10 years. Pretty good. We'll almost give it to you. And then when they become pregnant, how long are they pregnant for? Gestation period. Because I heard like some animals are pregnant for like two years.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I'm going to say three months. One month. Now, this is the reason I'm leading up to this is they have a they have a pouch though so yeah that makes sense because they can be pregnant for a short amount of time and then they can the child can grow they call them joeys as well like joeys and they can have up to two a year which is a lot for them right now the reason i bring this up is there is a unique defense mechanism the quokka has if it's being chased by a predator what is that farting no they will actually they actually have like i guess maybe a muscle or something where they can eject the baby from the pouch towards the thing chasing it and just be like see you later
Starting point is 01:11:58 because they reproduce so fast they're just like i didn't even like that baby anyway i would do the same thing with a newborn that I'm not attached to yeah if you could have another one in six months yeah if someone's just chasing
Starting point is 01:12:10 I'd be chucking the baby at them the quokka throws the baby out it's like you get what you get and you don't get upset could you imagine
Starting point is 01:12:17 a little baby quokka just after being shot out of its pouch yeah it's like you gotta be the cutest little oh shit here comes a snake.
Starting point is 01:12:26 All right, that's it for the show. There you go, Jim, take us out. All right, ladies and gentlemen, if you're at a party, someone says something that you don't know that much about, this is the way you win your argument. You go, well, I don't know about that, and you walk away. Good night, Australia. Hey everybody, Jason Ellis here from the Jason Ellis Show podcast, reminding you that my podcast, new episodes every Wednesday, downloadable where all podcasts are available. Come see my friends,
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