I Don't Know About That - Pizza

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

In this episode, the team discusses pizza with Pizza Today Magazine columnist and founder of Scott's Pizza Tours, Scott Wiener. Follow Scott on Instagram @ScottsPizzaTours and on Twitter @ScottsPizzaTour ! Follow Scott's nationwide nonprofit Slice Out Hunger @SliceOutHunger on Instagram and Twitter. Our merch store is now live! Go to idontknowaboutthat.com for shirts, hoodies, mugs, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/IDKAT for ad free episodes, bonus episodes, and more exclusive perks! Tiers start at just $2! Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tickets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Cubans. Spanish people. Who makes the best sandwich with pork? You might find out, and I don't know about that, with Jim Jefferies. The answer's Cuban. I don't know. Do the Spanish know for their sandwiches?

Not that I know of. It's paella. They make paella, yeah, which is just crusty risotto. I'm a big fan. Quite crusty. Because they do it in a steel skillet, and it gets a bit of a crust on the bottom. You know what's weird?

It shouldn't. Real paella should have a little bit of a crispness. You hear the word crusty in any other term, and it's like the most disgusting thing ever. But when it comes to food, I want my food crusty. Like crusty mac and other term and it's like the most disgusting thing ever but when it comes to food i want my food like crusty mac and cheese sounds pretty good but like if you're like here's my crusty socks that's fucking disgusting no it's got breadcrumbs on it do you americans use the term what do you do for crust no that's like what do you do for a living what do you do for a crust

oh i thought it was what do you do for a klondike yeah my brother was used to say leave me underwear for a week so crust is like your job yeah what do you do for what do you do for Klondike? My brother used to say, leave me underwear on for a week. So crust is like your job. Yeah. What do you do for a living? Wow. God, we always learn so many great things on this podcast. God, we learn so much here. Anyway, you might be wondering why I'm wearing such a Larry top.

Larry? Larry, what does that mean? It means flashy and loud. Oh, good. Oh, we're learning so much today. You never heard the term Larry. I've heard it. I just never know what it meant. I know a guy named Larry. What does that mean? It means flashy and loud. Oh, good. Oh, we're learning so much today. You never heard the term Larry. I've heard it. I just never know what it meant.

I know a guy named Larry. I just tuned out. No, that's Larry, not Larry. Wait. Larry. Wait. Spell them? I don't know how to spell either of them.

Wait, it's Lowry or Larry? Larry's a name. Larry's a steakhouse. Larry is the type of like when you're being flashy. One R probably. There'd probably be an E somewhere in Larry. Larry's a name. Larry is the type of like when you're being flashy. One R probably. There'd probably be an E somewhere in Larry. I'm currently regretting smoking weed right before I walked in here because I have so much. Okay. Type in Larry outfit and see what comes up. I think it's L-E-A-R-Y. That's my guess. That's Leary. And people were

saying, well, we don't know. We lost the NACDA podcast. Well, you're wrong. God, it's riveting. Here we are. We're all learning together. I'm wearing North Sydney Bears because I read in the newspaper today that the North Sydney Bears are making a bid to be back in the NRL and to move to Perth and play three or four games at North Sydney Oval. And then the Bears are my childhood team,

and I am doing whatever I can to help this push to get back in the league. And that is a jersey that you've had since you were, what, 14, you said? 14, I'm 14. It's not even the NRL. It was back when it was just the New South Wales Cup. Now it's a national one. This was just in New South Wales. And I got this, and it's got all the signatures on the back

of all the different players, but they have all faded over the years, but some of them are still there. Some of these players would be worth tens of thousands of dollars. Big deal. Tens of thousands? You don't get paid much as a rugby league player. When I was a kid, rugby league players, and these guys are still heroes to me, some of them from my childhood, but they'd score a try and they'd go,

Martin Beller scores a try. And then your stats would come up, how many tries he scored this year, how many games he's played, what's his job, right? And everyone would say, Martin's a try. And then your stats would come up. How many tries he scored this year? How many games he's played? What's his job? Martin's a cop. He's so good at beating people. Now they're all professional. Greg Florimo, my favourite player,

would say underneath, scaffold worker. I feel like you shouldn't be working in scaffolding because the injuries are high. Some of them worked as bartenders at the league's club after the game. The NFL goes, I went to this college. And I used to think, oh, wow, those guys are superstars. You could pull me up at any time and give me a ticket.

When you were walking towards the house here up the sidewalk, I could see you in the distance and you just looked foreign wearing that shirt. He's like, this is my America shirt. I love it here. I would be surprised if there's more than five of these jerseys in all of America. I've never seen that before in my life. With the blue badge. It's the oldest thing I own.

The bad decisions I've made since... Now, this used to be a baggy thing that I could even wear small shoulder pads under, but over the years... More shoulder pads? How many are you wearing right now? Small, small shoulder pads. They don't wear the shoulder pads like here, but sometimes some of the players wear a little bit of foam padding underneath there.

Wusses. Yeah, so... They're not wusses. They're not wusses. They're tough men. How were your gigs? How about that? I did all right.

Where were you? Where were you? I was in Cleveland and Detroit. All the gigs were phenomenal, actually. Last week you weren't. Oh, well, I haven't done these gigs yet. No, you've done them. Greenville, one of the Carolinas.

Baltimore and Greenville. And Baltimore, it was fantastic. It was like being on the wire. Fantastic show. Did you get shot at or something? And then I think I've got some gigs coming up in Canada. Yeah, June 2nd, Winnipeg. Winnipeg, Loserpeg, we all get a peg.

We'll be there. June 3rd, Saskatoon. Saskatoon. June 4th.. June 3rd, Saskatoon. Saskatoon. June 4th. Got nothing for that. Regina. Regina, the city that rhymes with cunt. Hey.

And then you've got tons of gigs in Australia and New Zealand. Australia and New Zealand. We're going to all of them. There's 70,000 tickets, man. People are going. For all the people who keep on writing to me, I bought tickets to the last tour. Stop writing to me.

Contact the ticket people. Your tickets are for a show. Find out which show is your show, and I look forward to seeing you. But I can't do anything here. I'm not the ticket company. But you should have received an email. So whatever email confirmed your ticket, write back to those people. That would be my guess at best.

And then when you come back, we were just talking about it, August 5th and 6th, Hawaii. Hawaii. Maui and Honolulu. Maui and Honolulu. And I'm doing that because I'm having fun, man. I'm taking the whole family out on a little vacation. Yeah, people should do that too.

You want to have a nice vacation? I'll be there with the kids and I'll be eating edibles by the pool. If you want to see me. And then our Patreon. Patreon, it's all happening

as well. If you want to support the North Sydney Bears, and they seem to be the Perth Bears, and you support the Patreon sydney bears and they seem to be the perth bears and uh you support the patreon patreon.com slash id cat trickle down effect and i don't know about that dot com for merch we have um current we're currently working on a design for the poo on a stick tour sure good it's happening my my dad's very excited about getting a hat when we go out there he's all over that he loves that my actually, he went into the post office the other day and we had some 2021 tour jackets for all the staff,

all the security and all that type of stuff. So just Jim Jefferies 2021 tour. And then that tour was cancelled. So we have, there's about 50 of these jackets in existence. Ooh, I want one. And one of them is worn by my father and he wears it around the shops and everything like that. And he went into the post office, and I'll tell the story

as he told it to me yesterday. There's a young Asian girl there. This is already a Gary tale. Young Asian girl. She's got some tattoos, but not too many, but they all seem to have them now. Are they Asians? Just the young people.

The young people, they all bloody fucking cover their bodies. Why would you want to do that? Anyway, so I used to look at this bird a lot. There was something interesting about her. Anyway, I go up to the counter and I'm wearing the jacket. She goes, Jim Jefferies, 21 tour? He goes, I didn't know he was on tour. Oh, he was on tour but the tour was cancelled because of COVID.

And then I told her that I was the set designer, that I design all the sets and everything like that. Which is definitely more impressive than the father of. He designed the black curtain in the chair. That's the job he wanted to do. As a carpenter, he wanted to do theatre sets and stuff like that. Anyway, so he goes, I told her that I was a set designer,

that I designed all the different things on the stage. And she went, oh. And he goes, yeah, I have to wear the jacket because otherwise I'll think I'm just an old bloke sneaking in the back. Right? And then, like, of course, he'd have a laminate or credentials or people would know him. Anyway, so she goes, oh, that's really interesting.

And then he goes, and then I walked away. And just as I left the store, I turned to her and winked. I went, I'm also his father. Gary has game, dude. Like, he really does have game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now he's posting letters one at a time so he can go back there as much as possible to speak to the Asian lady with the tattoos.

You know, we've sold some merch, though. I know at one of the shows I saw some people wearing the Good Night Australia shirt. Yeah, the Good Night Australia shirt. There was a couple wearing it. Seeing people in merch in the wild. I think people wanted to give them what they want. I think that was another request that I've heard. There's a chance

if we get a shoot together we could sell them on the tour. If someone wants to reach out to Andrew and get all the stuff, we could sell them on the tour. We could sell them here too. Why are you doing the meet and greet? They just do it up front. I'll connect the merch people to andrew um also something a little small world thing happened jack and i went

to steve lucather's son's birthday party a couple weeks ago and he was telling everybody like oh they do a podcast with jim jeffries first of all a lot of people were like what you like a lot of people there knew rock stars and were excited about you. But there was a woman there who's like, Oh my God, I featured for him 15 years ago. Like she, she opened for you. Um,

her name was Shannon Gittens at the time, but it's now Shannon. She's like, he would not remember me, but I thought it was very small to like middle for you at some show. Oh, Shannon. Hello,

Shannon. Yeah. Good to see you. She only had good things to say. Yeah. Oh, all right. She was like 15 years ago. I. Oh, all right. We love her. Hey, all right.

She was like 15 years ago. I was like, was he an asshole? He won't remember that. I've had some blackout years. All right, let's start the podcast. All right, please welcome our guest, Scott Wiener. G'day, Scott. Now it's time to play. Yes, though.

Yes, though. Yes, yes though, yes though Judging the book by its cover I was in tune then. G'day Scott Okay, so I'm looking at Scott's room, he has a picture of a train Does it involve trains, mate? Nothing to do with trains. Everything? Nothing to do with trains. Everything's got to do with trains. It was the great connector of our society.

Fine, you're right. Yeah, I'm a train conductor. Friday the 13th, we're doing horror films. I don't know much about horror films. I love that you think that people would just dress, like always you're going to dress. The last lady was wearing a dinosaur T-shirt. Yeah, she was promoting something. t-shirt it was covered up though and we were yelling don't look at the screen yeah okay uh yeah are we doing pizza yeah there's a pizza situation yeah all right so pizza a pizza situation oh are we doing pizza gate

we're doing just regular pizza we're not pizza gate would be a good one what makes you if i say walnut sauce how do you feel exactly exactly you're not a pedophile you passed the test good work scott weiner is one of the world's leading pizza experts and founder of Scott's pizza tours based in New York city. He's a columnist for pizza today magazine. He's been a speaker at the pizza expo in Las Vegas,

and he's also the founder of slice out hunger, a nationwide nonprofit that supports hunger relief initiatives through pizza related events and campaigns. You can find all this information that you want about Scott on at the website, Scott's pizzaours.com. You can also find about Slice Out Hunger at sliceouthunger.org. And also go to at scottpizzatours and at sliceouthunger. And he's got a book too, Viva La Pizza, The Art of the Pizza Box.

It's a curveball there. Thanks for being on the show, Scott. Thanks for having me look I have a lot of opinions on this I think that everybody has their own opinion on pizza and everyone thinks they're 100% correct so I don't know if we're going to agree here

well it's not necessarily an opinion based podcast there's a history to pizza how do you become a pizza expert where do you live to do these tours? I live in Brooklyn, so I do the tours all around. Probably get the train, I reckon. I did say Scott's Pizza Tour is based in New York City.

How do you become a pizza expert? You just print it on a business card. You look very thin. I mean, that's literally what happened. Before I figured out that this literally what happened. Like I was, before I figured out that this is what I want to do, a friend of mine printed up business cards

that said pizza enthusiast because that was like the one thing that I would always have in my life. And I ended up just following that, starting the pizza tour business

and here I am. How are you so thin, Scott? How have you done that with all your pizza? I limit myself to 15 slices per week and I bike everywhere. I ride my bike everywhere. Scott, how have you done that with all your pizzas? I limit myself to 15 slices per week. And I bike everywhere.

I ride my bike everywhere. That's a single sitting. It's a number. Yeah, it's not bad. Here's what we're going to do. I'm going to ask Jim some questions about pizza. When he's done answering them, you're going to grade them 0 through 10, 10 being the best on his accuracy.

Kelly's going to grade them on confidence. I'm going to grade them on et cetera. We'll add all the scores together. If you score 21 through 30, Jim, wood-fired pizza. Sounds good. 11 through 20, dominoes. Zero through 10, there's no such thing as bad sex or pizza unless that pizza is from Sbarro. That's what you're going to get.

Disgusting. And the sex is also from Sbarro. If you have sex in Sbarro while eating pizza. That's how they do the white pizzas. Gross. That was too easy. Jim, where was pizza invented? This might be a curve ball, but I am going to say it was invented in Italy.

You know about when? Two o'clock. I would say that pizza, okay, so pizza was a way of getting older bread or dough or something like that to be, like it was a pauper's food, you know what I mean? Like it was a

pauper's food. So it would be I want to say 500 years ago. I did watch the the food that built america and i saw the dominoes and pizza hut episode so then you saw him he was on it oh you're on it oh yeah that's how i found him i was watching that and then i reached out to him and i remember them saying that it wasn't commonly used in america people didn't know this food we were just eating we were just eating no it's the voiceover go we were eating charcoal on bread you know everything was like fucking dire anyway go um so do you know who invented it like

uh giuseppe pizza okay so what were the first pizzas like you just had an opinion on that um they would have been basic uh bread the red sauce bit of cheese the end and then you mentioned they were peasant food like i don't think so how did it go from like peasant foods uh like the popular meal just today um there would have been some king or queen that bloody was like let's have a pizza party it would have been an event. Okay. When was the first pizza shop opened in America? What chain or just the first bloke to give it a go? First pizza shop. It would have been in little Italy in New York.

And I want to say it was in 1919. What percentage of American population is eating pizza on any given day? Is the question clear? I mean, I'd say 20%. 20% of the population is eating pizza on any given day. Traditional flatbread is often considered to be the... Progenitor. I know, but you're blocking the word with your name.

That's still blocking the word. Okay. To the pizza we know and love today i'm not honest in what country did it originate what flatbread yeah uh turkey okay turkish pie the most expensive pizza in the world is called the louis the 13th pizza it takes 72 hours to prepare how much does a single one cost whoa um how big is it 10 inch or 12 inch oh no well it's gonna change the value because the 12 inch is 30 cents more you get an extra topping for that um it would have to have prawns or lobster on it and some like edible gold which tastes like 72 hours prepare. It'd be truffles. I would say 15 grand. I just noticed his shirt isn't Friday the 13th.

It's Friday the pizza. Yeah, I see it now. What is the most popular pizza topping in the United States? Pepperoni. True or false? Got a 50% chance. A pizza was delivered to an astronaut while he or she was in orbit. True. Yeah. Yeah. i know a good guess i remember this i said false i believe i believe it was pizza hut what is the most popular day of the year to order pizza in the united states

um oh that would be okay so okay so it would be uh it would the the 26th of december okay what is the most popular i'm sorry what is the technical term for the outer edge of the pizza's crust um super crust okay which which major war led to the skyrocketing popularity of pizza in the United States? World War II. Oh, no, wait, wait. Vietnam, because we could watch it on the telly. Okay.

Yeah, you've got to have something to eat. You can put it on your lap. It was the first war that was broadcast, man. It was like, turn on the news. Oh, napalm makes me hungry. I want to see some bodies. Eat some za. In 2006, Christian Dumitru set the world record for the number of pounds of pizza eaten by one person in a single week. How many pounds of pizza did he eat that week?

Okay, so you could eat 70 pounds. In what year did the first frozen pizza hit the store freezers? I've been eating that since I was a kid, frozen pizza. So it has to be before I was born. I would have to say the first frozen pizza was in 1972. Okay. Classic Hawaiian pizza features tomato sauce, cheese, ham, a pineapple. Where was this style of pizza invented?

It was not invented in Hawaii. This was in the documentary. I want to say it was invented in Kansas City, Missouri. And do you like pineapple on pizza? I love pineapple. That's my favorite. I give it up. It's to settle the debate.

This is the way this question. Pineapple on pizza, yes or no? Yes. So you're saying yes? Yes. Yes. 100% yes. Okay.

Let's go back up there. What pizza making technique has its very own professional level sporting competition? Pizza tossing. Okay. I was going to give you four questions, but you're just going with it. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Okay. Which pizza chain was started in the back of a broom closet? Better call Saul's. No, I would say that's Papa John's, and that's where it remains. What are the five basic ingredients used to make pizza dough? Flour. Yeast. Water.

Water. Yeast. Water. water yeast water semoline that stuff that you put on the whatever that is semolina and butter close

I've made pizza that's the only one I know what ingredients require for pizza to be officially considered pizza all those ingredients i think it's one ingredient one ingredient yeah oh uh bread okay name as many types or styles of pizza as you can what like thin crust pan keep going okay i'm gonna know some pizza knowledge that he doesn't even know all right i'm to throw some things in. Get ready, Scott. All right. So you've got thin crust, New York style, deep pan, Chicago, thin and crispy, which is different from just a thin crust.

Then you've got the ones in Australia that have the meat pies in the crust. I don't know if you've seen those. We're keeping track of all these, by the way, Scott. Stuffed crust? We're keeping track of them. I haven't said stuffed crust yet. I'm just taking some personal notes. So the meat pie in the crust. There's another one with hot dogs in the crust. The Australians have gone crazy at fucking Domino's and Pizza Hut with their crust technology.

There's the pull-away crust that you can get at the Little Caesars where they have the little knots of cheese that you pull away from the side. There's one from a place you just did a show recently. Midwest. I said deep Chicago. Different one. Detroit. Detroit.

Detroit has a pizza type? Yeah. Kelly, do you remember the place in Atlantic City we went to that had tacos as the crust mom's spaghetti pizza that was rough

that was rough I think I think it did pretty good okay last question who is in the Guinness Book of World Records for the biggest collection

of pizza boxes and how many is it it'll be Scott and they're all you were paying attention they're all sitting behind him you were paying attention so that's all the pizza boxes. I don't think those are pizza boxes. Yeah, they are. Those pizza boxes, they're flat.

This guy's got a keen eye. Yeah. I'm like the Columbo of rubbish. How many does he have? He would have 125,000. Okay. Holy shit. Yeah, but they're flat. Yeah. You just slip them under the bed. Sleep on them. His house They're flat. Yeah. You just slip them under the bed. Yeah. Sleep on them. His house is a Tinder box.

Scott, how did Jim do? Is your other 10, 10's the best on his knowledge of pizza? Ah, yeah. I really wanted to score you low, but your answers,

even the ones that you got wrong, your versions of the answers are better than the reality. I'm going to say you're at a nine. Oh, pizza man. Fucking hell, my life. I got a ten for porn, a nine for pizza, and a two for the Vietnam War. Time has seemed pretty bad.

Stand-up comedy, you got to go one or two. He knew all that one. That's just his job, man. He doesn't care. How's his unconfidence? I'd give him a seven on confidence. I think he came in hot. You want to be Domino's or Woodfire, Jim?

Domino's, man. He's the every man's pizza. Oh, here we go. I'm going to give you another crust a uh a double decadence uh from dominoes that they do in uh britain which is two very thin tortilla almost like crusts and in between it they put ranch dressing and then they put the topping on top so it's like all spongy oh yeah give them an eight for confidence i used to get fucking wasted the next day i'd get myself a double decadence. That was a widow maker, the double decadence.

So I asked Jim, where was pizza invented and when? He said invented in Italy at two o'clock or 500 years ago. Was he close there? I actually want to give you another chance at this. Where inaly was it invented oh okay so uh napoli yeah okay i knew you knew it yeah because you watch all those yeah yeah napoli so i i've told you the answers in your past yeah this is cheating uh and you yeah you were saying 500 years ago, it was more like,

and we don't have an exact record of the first pizza ever, but it was probably sometime in the middle of the 18th century. So not as long ago as you said, but... It's interesting. We've been doing this podcast and there always comes an answer like that.

We don't know exactly, but we know around this time. People invent shit. If you're inventing anything, you should just write down the day you did it so we have the record i'll tell you what about pizza it's if you're a bad speller like me it's a go-to word in scrabble oh if you see those two z's come up you start to get a bit moist but you know learning cursive in school with the z's it reminds me of billy Billy Madison where he had to do Raruto, but he was like, Raruto? That's pizza right there.

I think there's only one Z tile. There's only one Z tile, though. Oh, not in my game. He does the N and flips it to the side. I keep a spare tile. There's one of those tiles that can be anything. Oh, yeah.

Sharpie up a Z. Sideways in. And write 100 points in the corner. Pizza. I asked who invented it. He said Giuseppe Pizza. So we don't know who invented it or do we? That's as good a guess as any.

Yeah, I gave you full credit for that one, even though it's entirely wrong. Just because, and I'll tell you why. We don't know who it is. There was not one single person who invented it on one single day, but I gave you the points because there are all these menus at

neighborhood pizzerias, and on the back, it has a very tongue-in-cheek history, and the history that they give gives the name Giuseppe Pizza as the person who invented it. And most people are thinking it is true. That's why I'm saying your answer was more right than you most people are thinking it is true. That's why I'm saying the thing,

your answer was more right than you thought. I didn't know. Wait, what? I'm telling you, I have the math. What the fuck? What's going on? That sounds offensive to Italians. No, they love that crap.

He was a good guy, Giuseppe Pizza. Wait, so did you say Giuseppe Pizza because you had heard somebody say that in the document? I believe Giuseppe Pizza was the name of the character that Pizza Hut had where they used to have a guy who was like, it was a cartoon character and it came in a little glove that you could make a thing out of it. Inside there, they would sell you a gingerbread cookie in Australia covered in pink icing and hundreds and thousands of the time. And afterwards, you'd get your

gingerbread cookie from Pizza Hut. And that was when Pizza Hut was a sit-in restaurant. I saw the sit-ins. Not many. I haven't seen a sit-in. They're hard to find. And there's a couple at the salad bar.

No, the salad bar and pasta bar. But then they started off with all-you-can-eat pizza, but it was was not just on the table the waitresses would walk around and give you a slice and give you a slice well here they have shakies and you do this you go yeah yeah where are you going have you been to shakies pizza scott it's a it's like an la chain i think i have been to shakies it was actually the first like family pizza chain that inspired pizza hut so that's been it started in sacramento 1954 so that's really one of the ogs it was what happened was the owner had parkinson's and they would just put the ingredients in his hand and they would just fall out of the pizza and that's

where the term shakey's came from i don't think that's correct i don't think that's it but it is a terrible name if you do have parkinson's write to us and tell us what we've done wrong. I'm looking forward to the spelling mistakes. Oh, my God. My mother had Parkinson's, so just calm down. Oh, so you're allowed to say it? Yeah. Okay.

It is a terrible name. My mother's Muhammad Ali. They serve beer there, too, though. It's freaky. So you can get it wrong. Yeah, you don't get it wrong. And you get fried chicken. The head's always falling off

what were the first pizzas like next what were the first pizzas like jim said basic bread red sauce bit of cheese yeah no so i i did give you almost full credit for that because like common knowledge would say that but the first

pizzas did not have cheese or tomato on them it was just dough with dough with lard and maybe common knowledge would say that, but the first pizzas did not have cheese or tomato on them. It was just dough with lard and maybe a little bit of pecorino if you were lucky, but no mozzarella, no tomato, just because the tomato wasn't really thought of as being an edible food in Southern Italy, really anywhere in the world until the later part of like early 1800s, late 1700s, early 1800s. Wow. What were people doing with tomatoes? They were just growing them because they looked pretty? Throwing them in the comics. Yeah, I know.

That's exactly it. It was just an ornamental fruit. It was brought back to Spain in the 1520s. And then Southern Italy, including Naples, was the Spanish colony. So then brought down to Naples and grown right along the edge of the water by Mount Vesuvius, which is where so many famous tomatoes are grown now. So now you're right. It was an ornamental fruit.

And then suddenly it became this edible dish. I think the first written recipe for tomato sauce was in the late 1690s, like 1693 or at 2 p.m. You just associate Italy with tomato sauce. Yeah, they got it from the Americas. I remember in history class,, without the discovery of America, there'd be no pizza or anything like that. So was the changing of the ingredients kind of in line with it going from a peasant's food to something more widely accepted? Because it makes sense then.

It was a poor person's food if it's bread and lard and these things that don't sound that great um where was the time what's the timeline of that with changing the ingredients you don't want bread with lard get the fuck out of here it's true it's awesome it's delicious bread with lard doesn't sound that good all i can think about now is bread with lard there's a place there are plenty of places that do it you just got to find Neapolitan pizzerias. And then if it's on the menu, it's probably called the Mast Nicola. And your eyes may have just gone right past it. Mast Nicola.

Here's one. Was the basic cheese pizza before the margarita pizza? Because I know the story of the margarita pizza was there was a princess or a queen margarita or something, and then someone made the – it was meant to be the story of the margarita pizza was there was a princess or a queen margarita or something and then someone made the it was meant to be the colors of the Italian flag and so it has the basil on it the tomato and the thing and it's meant to be the colors of the Italian flag it feels like that's not much of an invention throwing a bit of basil on and going look what I've done so yeah that that pizza predated that event happening, which we have a date for that event,

but we have very loose paper trail for that event actually happening. But anyway, cheese, tomato, basil was all on pizza by the 1830s, 1840s. And that event didn't happen until the 1890s. So that's a bit of bullshit. I've always heard that.

And so they just named it after. Well, it's, and that's also kind of a mixed bag too, because the whole story is that that happened in 1889. And we have documentation because there's a little letter hanging up in the pizzeria where it all happened. And that letter says, it's like a thank you note from the Queen's kitchen staff saying, thanks for making the pizza for the queen she loved it whatever but then this guy zachary novik uh this scholar based in boston did a whole bunch of research on the letter itself and examined some documents from the same time period and it turned out that the paper and the signatures on it didn't match up with the actual papers and so it was written in a shoppy yeah exactly so the documentation for it is loose so we don't know if that event actually happened

but it does seem like the naming of it as pizza margarita didn't happen until the late 1800s early 1900s yeah and so and as i'm sorry did with the peasant food that Kelly was talking about, it was one of the questions, what that jump was made, not like that, that was what you're talking about. Oh yeah. Yeah. It didn't jump to being, uh, anything beyond a peasant food until around that time period. Like Kelly asked about did the mozzarella and tomatoes and all that, was that part of the jump from a peasant food to food of everybody. And yeah, the timing coincided. I don't know if one caused the other, but it definitely was the same time period. When was the first pizza shop open in America?

Jim said little Italy, New York, 1919. Yeah. Little Italy in New York is the oldest pizzeria on record, but it was earlier the, there was a place that opened in 1890. Well, we know it was open in 1894 and it probably was a pizzeria on record but it was earlier the there was a place that opened in 1890 well we know it was open in 1894 and it probably was a pizzeria in 1893 and um i mean i gave you i gave you a decent amount of points for it because you got the little italy thing right and also that the common story is that it was lombardi's in 1905 so anybody watching this right now is like screaming at the screen they're like, this guy's not real. And then now they're

hiding themselves right now as they hear that. It's because Lombardi's 1905 is not the earliest on record. There is a pizzeria that was just simply called Oven-In Pizzeria, Fornoi Pizzeria

on Mulberry Street, 59 and a2 Mulberry Street, 1894. All right. Mulberry Street. Well, we're always finding older documents. So, like, we find these in, you know, ads and in business directories, phone books, anything like that. They kind of sneak up on us. I'm going to say something controversial.

I don't think New York pizza is the best pizza. People go on about it. I'm with you. Well, you're from Australia. I pizza is the best pizza. People go on about it. I'm with you. Well, you're from Australia. I think Australia has great pizza. Like you get a nice wood fire pizza in like a bar or something like that. They put great big prawns on the bar. I'm not saying they're the best pizza,

but I like a crust that has a few bubbles in it. I don't like a big sort of sturdy type of, I like a- I'm a Detroit style pizza girl. I love that. I wasn't attacking you saying you're from Australia. I was saying that like you, you, you love the pizza you grew up with.

That's your attachment, which is why I don't expect anybody to think New York's the best. If you're from New York, you probably think that, but a lot of this, the societal pressure of like, you have to say that. But also it's just,

they reheat it. There's always just one topping on it. It just seems a bit. I'm from the suburbs of Chicago and I hate deep dish. No one likes deep dish. Abomination. No one eats it. It's like something you put up on a thing.

Like I do it occasionally when I'm in Chicago in the dressing room. Get me a Chicago deep dish. You're like, why did I get that? What am I doing? Thick. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a casserole. I want one right now.

The argument with New York. I go bagels, I'll give New York all day. Every bagel I've had in New York City is way better than any bagel. I agree. But the pizza, I'm just like, whatever. There's great pizza all over. And I don't even know where I'm at, the right raise or the wrong raise. I made pizza in my backyard. It's better than New York pizza.

Your pizza that you make is in my top five pizza experiences of my whole life. Oh, thanks. Very good. Very good. Well, we better do it quick because we're not going to have a pizza oven in a month. What?

He's moving. He's moving houses and he's not going to have a pizza oven. Wait, it's like a built-in pizza oven, like a legit one. Yeah, he has a wood fire one in the back. When I bought the house, it was already built there. The guy before me was a stonemason. he built like a structure and he put the oven inside and has like four little chimneys that shoots as much my father built a pizza oven in the backyard it's like a dome it looks like my his one looks like luke skywalker's childhood house that's what

mine looks like inside it's a dome and he did it with i don't know how he did he did with concrete just layering and moving and stuff but he built it himself it has to yeah mine's a dome shape too i know he made his but but that's the sell them and you put them in but yeah i've a friend of mine taught me how to make the dough and sauce and stuff like that and then i just put a bunch of toppings that people yeah we'll have one more before i leave great sure all right um what percentage of the american population is eating pizza on a given day jim said 20%. I don't know the answer to this, but I think it's probably right around somewhere between 20 and 30%.

None of us know. Well, yeah, where I found it, it said 13%, but that still seems so low to me. Yeah, it's more than that. Yeah, I had pizza yesterday, so 14%. Yeah, it's like hamburgers. I saw a thing where they said

that the average American eats two hamburgers a week, and I was like, bullshit, and I'd had three hamburgers that day. That was our last podcast. I'm like a hamburger guy. I like pizza as well. But I go through, when I was a kid, it was all about pizza, and then my 20s was all about pizza.

Then I went through a big hamburger stage. Now I'm all about long sandwiches. I like a sub sandwich, man. Yeah. Yeah. I like Subway. Subway, they've got gym mats in their chicken. What?

It was a report. They found gym mats in their stuff and their fucking tuna doesn't have any tuna in it, man. They don't even know what fish it is. I thought gym mats was something that you produce. Yeah, gym mats. That's what my mattress becomes after I've come on too much.

Let's take a quick break for ads from our sponsors, Subway. Eat fresh. Eat Matt's. Traditional flatbread is often considered to be the progenitor to pizza we know and love. Today, in what country did it originate? Jim said Turkey. Yeah, he could have said anywhere in that region.

I mean, from Egypt all the way through, up through Turkey, anything over there. I mean, everybody had flatbreads. Well, you ever had like a pied, like a Turkish pizza, like this thing? Yep. They're hugely popular in Sydney. Like we've got a very big Turkish Lebanese population, and that's like a standard food, and you don't really see them here in America.

But they're a good thing. Yeah, what's the difference between a flatbread and a pizza? A flatbread is baked and then topped and a pizza is topped and then baked. Oh! That's good to know. I've been wondering that the whole time. Wait, wait, wait. Say that again? A flatbread as well? Flatbread is baked,

then topped. Pizza's topped, then baked. It feels like a sexual euphemism at some point. I prefer pizza. I was looking up the Armenian pizza. Have you ever had that one? That's the Lama Jun. Lama Jun, yeah. Because we're here in Glendale and they have all the... You know what? I did. I went

to an Armenian place and I just ordered pizza. So it was probably that, yeah. Alright, Scott. What's your favorite bog standard brand? Your Pizza Hut, your Domino's, your Papa John's. What's your bog standard? Little Caesars, Marcos, Sbarro, they're all there.

Sbarro's the worst. Out of all those... I like Lucifer's in my life. Have you ever had Lucifer's? Oh, Lucifer's in New... Lucifer's isn't on that same level. Lucifer's is a step above. Yeah, it's fair. No, you're talking about national change. Yeah, national change, but Lucifer's is a change. There's like five of them here in LA.

It's very good. Yeah. And I think they're in New Zealand as well. Are they? I think so. There's another brand. There's an Australian brand called Crust that they tried to bring out here, which didn't do very well.

But they do a good prawn pizza in Australia. Anyway, so what's your- The major brands. I think the most consistently edible out of all those is Domino's. Consistently edible. most consistently edible out of all those is Domino's. Consistently edible. But I think the best pizza

experience I've ever had eating any of those was a pizza from Little Caesars. I love Little Caesars. That's how I feel. And it was one pie that I had from Little Caesars that was so good that, and I've had other pizzas from Little Caesars that were awful.

How are we here? Their Italian cheese bread is so good. That's like the reason that I stick with Little Caesars. Was it you with my father told you? Yeah. So Forrest had been in Australia for the first time in his life for a couple of days and we were going off. You were in a taxi driving.

Yeah, we were in a taxi with my father going off to the Enmore Theatre to do our show. And my dad's doing a little bit of a, over there, that's the Hyde Park. That's where you can go jogging there. The college. There's the university. They study all types of things there. They have a computer.

And then we drove past. He goes, there's Domino's. That's an Australian pizza chain. Yeah. They do a pretty decent pizza, a pretty decent pizza. I had just met your dad, too, so I didn't want to be rude, but you go, Dad, they have Domino's in America. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Domino's is everywhere, man. Domino's is everywhere. Really? Oh, God. I tell you what, because pizza was the first delivered food, right? Before that, there wasn't food that was delivered, especially not in Australia. I remember watching the movie E.T.

And at the beginning of E.T., they get a pizza delivered. And in Australia, there was no food that ever delivered back then, you know. And I remember that was the bit that blew my mind about that film more than anything else. Not the alien, is it? Not the alien. I was like fucking. And the pizza was probably delivered in. Not the alien. I was like fucking. And the pizza was probably delivered in 30 minutes or less.

And it looked all steamy. And it was like. That's alien to me. And I was like, fucking hell, that's mental. We had a pizza hut. We had a pizza hut you could go to. And then Domino's came to Australia. And I want to say the year was 1988.

Right. So Domino's started up in Australia and it was 30 minutes or you get your money back. Then they had to stop that because teenagers were crashing their cars, right? Anyway, I remember so at that stage I was about 13, right? I remember standing at the window just staring going, I don't think it's coming. We couldn't have just made a phone call and food's going to arrive. Like it blew my mind.

Now, I know it wasn't me just being a child, being an idiot, because my brother Danny, who was 20, was also staring at the window going, I don't think this is going to come. Yeah. And we thought it was going to arrive with a big phone on top of the car. You know, like if you've seen American movies where the car was always built.

I have not seen one of those Domino's cars that have the oven in the side that I see in the adverts. I haven't driven past one. You know, they lift up the side thing. They've got one of them and they bullshit. They have them all over the country. Fucking stop lying, Domino's. Show us the cars.

Show us the cars in motion. Anyone who's got, if you get a pizza and it shows up on these cars, send us a photo. I don't believe it. This is good. Was that the first food that was delivered, pizza? Well, yeah. I don't know if Scott knew that.

Because it comes in a cardboard box. This precedes those plastic containers. So in Australia in like the 1950s and 60s, we still have a very big Asian population. So you had Chinese restaurants everywhere. Not Australia. I was asking Scott, is that the first food? Oh yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. So in Australia we had Chinese restaurants. Now my mother told me something very interesting. We could go back to this to save things, but I think we're all too lazy now. So you would go to a Chinese restaurant in Australia in the 1950s

and 60s and go, I'd like to have some sweet and sour chicken or whatever, and you'd bring your pots, and they would pour you a portion of the food in your pot, you'd put your pot lid off, and then you'd drive off because no one had the take-away containers. We could do that again as a society if we just knuckle down. We should. I mean, environmentally, that's way better. Environmentally environmentally nothing's better than pizza these are these are recycled boxes am i correct nothing's better than getting it in your own container not putting a cardboard yeah so yeah

but i'm saying people have been introducing pizza boxes that are reusable and that are like have ventilation in them that you can return back to the pizzeria and then they wash them and put your next pizza in them so that's that's a thing that might be coming down the line. I got to test you, Scott. Who was the first person to put the doll's table in the middle? Carmella Vitale. And where was that? She invented that in 1983 in Dix Hills, New York and it's called the Package Saver. The patent was issued in 1985, so you can look it up on US Patent Trader.

He has the patent on that? Scott knows his pizza shit, man. You don't see it as much as you used to. There was a time when you used to see it a lot, and now you see it less. But Doll's Table is a good turn. They've engineered it out of the box. Now the boxes are strong enough that you don't really need them. Take away her patent.

I'll tell you what. Her patent's been ripped off so many times. I'll tell you what what her patent's been ripped off so many times i tell you what shitty pizza i have a childhood connection to and it didn't come in a box it came in like a big brown paper bag do you remember the bigfoot when pizza had had the big foot and it was i believe three feet long and i like a square pizza i love a square pizza i love when they do that there was a square there was a pizza company in America when I was 14 and I visited. And I remember they sold square pizzas and their slogan was, we don't cut corners.

Right? I thought, ah, it's fucking gold. That's good. It was Lido's. Were you in Maryland? I was in San Diego. Oh, weird. It's another one.

Lido's uses that now. They've trademarked that. Oh, there you go. The square pizzas, those are normally like pub style or tavern style pizza, right? Those are round pizzas cut into squares, but the squares that he's talking about, you're talking about like grandma pizzas, Sicilian

pizzas, whatever. This is gross. Have you seen the Australian pizza with the meat pies in the crust? I have seen it. I've never eaten it. We're a go-ahead country, mate. I tell you, Australia, we're always moving forward. We're making innovations where others fail.

Australian pizza is definitely a pizza of toppings, of like stuff going onto it. And then the opposite, this is why you don't like New York style because the opposite end of the spectrum is minimalism. So New York style is really all about the dough. It's a crust. That's funny because I've gotten more minimalistic with my pizza since moving to America. And now I've given up pork now. Pizza's all about pork products. So I have meatballs on there or I have chicken or whatever. I have a lot of chicken on me pizza

or something like that. There is a place near us called, and it's Swedish pizza. Have you been there? Viking pizza? No, I've been there. So curious. It's like place near us called, and it's Swedish pizza. Have you been there? Viking pizza? No, I'm so curious. It's like Swedish style. I bet you it has potatoes and shit. It has like a spiral of things. I don't know. It's so weird.

I asked them what the difference was and they said, oh, we put different toppings on it. And it was kind of like there was like a gyro on it or some shit. Yeah, there's a gyro pizza. Which isn't Swedish. I love gyro meat on a pizza. That's good late night high food, gyro. I'd say that's over for the coast on Mondays.

When do they start drizzling the toppings? Like you finish it off with ranch on top and they do the spiral of sauce. That feels like a last decade thing, or has that been around for a while? That's more than the last decade, probably 20 or 30 years, but that's definitely a Midwest thing or a college town thing where the pizza is pretty bad. So the only way to make it edible is cover it with some ranch dressing. Yeah, I take it ranch and the sign.

I dip me crust a little bit. Have you tried the hot dog crust pizza from Pizza Hut? What the fuck? I had one of those. I had the hot dog crust at Pizza Hut in Thailand. Yeah, there you go. They're all right. There's one with sausage rolls, I believe, as well.

Someone get up the meat Pie Pizza Hut Crust Australia. When you see this, you're going to go, it's a party pie. We've definitely searched this before. It's a party pie. Yeah, it's a fucking piece of art, man. What is the most popular pizza topping in the United States? Jim said pepperoni. I nailed it.

Nailed it. Yeah, that's the best one. I don't like when people put a ham on pizza. I don't know. I like a ham pie. You don't like it when other people put ham on pizza or you don't want to put it on pizza. So then I can only judge. I like Parma ham.

Like, what do you call it in America? Prosciutto. Prosciutto. Yeah. Parma ham is lovely on a pizza. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of when they cook a pizza, they cook it hot, and then they finish it with a bit of lettuce, which is a very –

Yeah, arugula. There's a country that – Rocket. Yeah, they do it with rocket, but they do it a lot in the sort of Nordic countries. They do a lot of like even just like iceberg lettuce on top. I like a bit of crunch with this thing. I'm a big fan of the Wolfgang Puck, but many restaurants have replicated it.

They cook the pizza, they cook it, and then they finish off with salmon, capers, and cream cheese. No, I don't like that. That's a bit of fun. Get out of there. That's a bit of fun. That's a no from me. GPK, Gourmet Pizza Kitchen Australia.

They nailed that. So you said that it was true. You said it was true. A pizza was delivered to an astronaut while they were in orbit. Do you know it was by? Pizza. It was pizza? Okay. It was true. You said it was true. A pizza was delivered to an astronaut while they were in orbit. Do you know it was by? Pizza. It was pizza? Okay.

It was, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he said that, I think, before you asked the second question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even ask. I mean, that's what eliminated some of his inaccuracies earlier. Yeah, the confidence of this one.

Yeah, and also his accuracy, too. It was awesome. Great to watch. But why? I didn't know what the V in Cocker was. Do you know the story of this one. Yeah. And also his accuracy too. It was awesome. Great to watch. But why? I didn't know what the V in Cockham was. Do you know the story of this? Like how does, why did this happen?

How does it happen? They don't have a rocket. Pizza Hut doesn't have a rocket. Pizza Hut, but they have money and they probably just paid a bunch of money. They just launched it. I'll test you. When they hydrated pizza in Back to the Future 2,

what brand was it? Pizza Hut. Yeah. You know, I was asking Forrest 2, what brand was it? Pizza Hut. Yeah, you know. I was asking Forrest. Domino's. It was Pizza Hut. Oh, yeah, I know. I heard.

It was a little tiny thing and he goes, ooh, yeah, pizza. The guy that was playing the dad who wasn't the original. What is the most popular day of the year to order pizza in the United States? What did you say, Jim? Boxing Day. It is December 26.

I feel like after Christmas, people, oh, you'd have leftovers. Maybe I got that wrong. I think I know. I feel like after Christmas, people, oh, you'd have leftovers. Maybe I got that wrong. I think I know, but I don't. I thought that was a great attempt, but it's not in the top three. So that hurts you a little bit, but it's- July 5th. I reckon- No, but that's, you're thinking the right way.

Although, think about American sporting events. Oh, Super Bowl Saturday. Sunday. Yeah. Sunday. Wow. Yeah, Super Bowl Sunday. Super Bowl Sunday. Super Bowl Saturday. Sunday. Sunday, wow. Super Bowl Sunday, Halloween. Yeah.

Halloween, yeah. So Super Bowl Sunday must just be pizza and wings, just an annihilation of chickens. What about March 14th? Do you know that Super Bowl Monday is the most clogged up toilets in America? Wow. Good to know. From all the pizza and wings. It is Super Bowl Monday in other countries. I watched the Super Bowl in Singapore Monday morning one time when I was in America. Wow. Good to know. From all the pizza and wings. It is Super Bowl Monday in other countries.

I watched the Super Bowl in Singapore Monday morning one time. When I was in Singapore. It was Super Bowl Monday. What is a technical term for the outer edge of a pizza's crust? Supercrust. Yeah, that's what you answered. I love that you said supercrust. And I love even more that you remembered your wrong answer that you said.

And he still said it confidently the second time. Supercrust. And I think supercrust is a better term, but the Italian term is cornicione. Yeah, supercrust rolls off the tongue better. I've got another thing that I've learned from these documentaries of pretty useless facts.

The Superbowl is named after the little rubber balls that you go bounce like that. It was such a popular gift and they were called Superballs and then they named the Superbowl after the Superbowl, which are little rubber balls that you go bounce like that. It was such a popular gift, and they were called Super Balls, and then they named the Super Bowl after the Super Ball, which are those rubber balls you get from those turning machines. The bouncy balls? Yep. Wow.

That was a popular toy at the time. So back to pizza. The crust is called Cornet. What is it called? Cornichone. Cornichone. Cornichone. Yeah, but I'm going to use Super Crust from now on.

Super Crust. We're going to change the answer over time. Perfect. Give me 10 years. That's the stuff between going to change the answer over time. Perfect. Give me 10 years. That's the stuff between my scrotum and my thigh. Oh, I skipped a question. Super crust.

I skipped a question. The most expensive pizza in the world is called the Louis XIII pizza. It takes 72 hours to prepare. How much does a single one cost? Jim said 15K. I have something here that says 12K. I don't know. Do we know what's on it?

Do you know this pizza? I was talking Australian Australian currency which goes down to 12,000. What's on this pizza? God, he always says a little. Boom, shakalaka. I mean, there are a lot of these like garbagey pizzas around there

which throw on exactly what Jim said. They throw on edible gold. They throw on foie gras. They throw on stilton cheese. They throw on whatever. And none of them taste like anything.

And it doesn't matter. I mean, you asked before about, well, how, what's the size of the pizza? And of course, like these. And it doesn't matter. I mean, you asked before about, well, what's the size of the pizza? And of course, these are just show-off pizzas. It could be a five-inch pizza. Personal pan? I'll tell you, there's a black truffle pizza they do at

Soho House, which is good, man. All it is is a cheese pizza with a bit of truffle on top. It's a nice pizza. $200? No, it's pretty reasonable. It's like $30 or something. That's not reasonable. Yeah, but at Soho House, it's not reasonable it's like 30 bucks or something that's not reasonable yeah but it's Saha House it's not like

you know what I mean it's reasonable for their drink it's black truffle yeah black truffle yeah

wait what's on the Louis pizza well why does it take 72 hours I don't know do you remember how Burger King every now and again

brings out one with gold on it and they say we have a $500 burger that no one's ever ordered it's just a marketing thing no one ever gets it the 72 hour thing is just the. It's just a marketing thing. No one ever gets it.

The 72 hour thing is just the dough. It's just the fermentation period. Yeah, that doesn't take long. I got it here now. It doesn't look good at all. There's like caviar. Toppings include different types of caviar. Pink Australian salt as well as lobster toppings from Norway

along with the buffalo type of mozzarella cheese. It looks completely awful. It looks like bird shit. I don't like when people put the dollops of mozzarella. I'd prefer a cheese coverage. It always feels like cheese, sauce, cheese, sauce. It doesn't cover enough. It looks pretty, but I don't think it's the best consistency.

But the problem with doing that is that if you're using fresh mozzarella and you give it full coverage, you're going to get a soggy pizza. So it's too much water from the cheese, and then it's not going to allow the water from the tomato to cook off. So it means you prefer a pizza with low moisture mozzarella. Just don't order pizzas of fresh mozzarella. Otherwise, you'll be

disappointed. But when I cook them at my house, I use low moisture mozzarella. Which major war led to the skyrocketing popularity of pizza in the United States? Jim said Vietnam because everyone wanted to watch Dead Bodies. He didn't say that, but it's a good answer. Is any what's right? Well, Roger Cronick, a war that we can't finish. Give me some pizza.

Walter's going to say some more. But I think you started with the right answer I think you said World War II first It was when you saw Mozzarella being dragged by his fucking feet through the streets of Italy Mozzarella? Mozzarella

Giuseppe pizza Giuseppe was dragging Mozzarella I just wanted to turn a pineapple on a pizza and not drag me through the streets Anyone who remembers The gingerbread From Australia Write in

Because I'm Starting to worry That's only my memory I've got the Mandela effect Gingerbread cookies Sound like a terrible Dessert after pizza So it was

It was World War II Scott Is that Do we know why Yeah So it's a few things The common lore Is that all these

Servicemen Serving in Italy Came back to the US and opened pizzerias because they saw it in Italy. But more likely what happened was there was a lot of exposure to pizzerias that were located near army bases in the US. of natural gas paired up with the availability of new like gas fired pizza ovens that were only introduced about a decade earlier. That all comes together along with the post-war interest in delivery food and convenience food. Like all like, it wasn't like we were all sitting at home going, you can say what you want about those Nazis, but fuck me.

They make a good dish. Have you tried this? Right. It's not like when the war in Afghanistan was happening, we were all eating more kebabs. Yeah. No, but it's actually- I was eating my same amount.

That actually did happen. Was it? But it actually did happen. Yeah, yeah. I feel like our hummus intake did pick up. I feel like I was eating a little bit of hummus and then the Gulf War onwards, hummus went crazy. Anytime there's a military conflict,

we do end up taking up the food that's being, yeah. Now do you think, okay, let me know if you think that this is meant to be an insult. I went to Italy in 2016. I ordered an Americano pizza and the toppings were hot dogs and French fries. That's meant to be a dig,

right? It's meant to be fucking Americans right it's meant to be fucking americans are idiots right so the funny thing about that is that it's such it's a super common pizza in naples for locals like locals wow yeah it wasn't good yeah why did you order that i don't know i just thought it was good like i wanted to see what it would look like when it came to the table and it was exactly what I thought. What's your grossest sort of promo pizza? Because I like the Philly cheesesteak one because they put the beef thing

and the onions and the peppers and the mushrooms. I don't mind that one. And they put a slightly different red sauce on it. There's always like a promo one. What happened to the Domino's was doing their artesian ones, those little rectangle ones. They were good, man. And then they fucking took them away from me.

Will they bring them back? They took them away from you, buddy. Oh, I was holding that up, man. I think that's exactly the problem is that people were getting the pizza and they were like, this is a little too nice. This is not Domino's.

It was good. It was a little rectangle pizza and they had four different varieties and one with that salami and stuff like that i put them as when i first moved to la i come to your house have you had these new or two you would tell me and i was like these are good they were good but you're very excited about it that's why i was getting them like once a week and then one day i go to get them and they're just not there there's nothing there was like one restaurant i found that was just selling the last of their batch and all they had was the fucking alfredo chicken which was the worst one i like the one salami yeah the one with salami with dynamite and there was another one with spinach and stuff on it was good come on domino's there's a place in atlanta that had peanut butter and jelly pizza

no all right in 2006 christian dimitri set the world record for the number of pounds of pizza place in Atlanta that had peanut butter and jelly pizza. No. In 2006, Christian Dimitri set the world record for the number of pounds of pizza eaten by one person a single week. How many pounds of pizza did he eat? Jim said 70 pounds. 10 pounds a day. That can't be right, but I don't know the answer. It says 200 pounds. 200 pounds of pizza? Oh my God.

What's pizza? That's the topic. That's crazy. It makes my stomach, like I'm not even lactose intolerant, but that makes my stomach hurt. When he went to his doctor and the Of pizza? Oh my god. What's pizza? It's crazy. I'm not even lactose intolerant. When he went to his doctor and the doctor went, what's your diet like? 200 pounds. Is this guy okay? He's on my 900 pound life. It's Giuseppe pizza. He hasn't done well.

It's Christian Dumitru. And what year did the first frozen pizza hit the store freezers? Jim said 1972. You lost points for this because it was much earlier than that. It was at least by 1948. What the fuck? What? The war was not even over yet,

wasn't it? It was. Yeah, absolutely. You're not watching the right documentaries. Maybe in Australia time. He likes the conspiracy ones. Okay.

But that's when I, a lot of food, the frozen food kind of TV dinner. That was like the whole revolution. I remember I used to get this. This is pretty gross. When I was a kid,

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, very popular. Their favorite food, incidentally pizza oh and so i think i can't remember the the chain it might have been the jornos or whatever whatever the frozen pizza come and frozen pizzas have come a long way they used to be dog shit in the 80s and now you can get ones that are that's all right i don't mind the dr ogan koken one that one's all right homerun is my favorite anyway delivery or diorno yeah so so they had this ninja turtle pizza which was the basic bitch fucking cheese pizza and then i used to top it off because i was addicted with this

food i still am to this day with baked beans and that was my fix get out i'd cook up some heinz baked beans and put them on top of the the the cheese uh ninja turtle pizza and i was cancel jim jeffries I was in heaven. Gross. Very popular pizza topping on the south shore of Boston. Really? I'll tell you something. Okay, I'll quiz you. What topping do they use in the UK that they don't really use anywhere else?

In the UK, people think that this is just a normal topping, and if you have a Supreme pizza, it will have it on it. Tuna. Sweet corn. No. have it on it. Tuna. Sweet corn. And tuna. Sweet corn is very popular in Asia. Right, but the Brits eat sweet corn on pizza just like a sweet corn and mushroom and all that type of stuff. You look at them like,

what the fuck are you doing? That doesn't seem that weird to me. Tuna is fucking crazy. They put tuna on it too? Tuna is disgusting. Tuna is a pretty popular topping on it too. Like, oh no. This is terrible. Did you ever have the Domino's double decadence? Do you know what I'm talking about?

I heard you describe it. I'd never heard of it. Someone Google that for me. See if they've still got it or they've taken that away from you. I don't want to see it. I'm going to Britain for a wedding in September. And that's the first thing I'll order. In the meantime, classic Hawaiian pizza features tomato sauce,

cheese, ham, and pineapple. Where was this style of pizza invented? Jim said Kansas City, Missouri. I like that guess. It's really not bad. I mean, the common legend is that it was invented in Canada in 1962, but the earliest evidence of pineapple on a pizza is in Chicago, 1953. A deep dish pineapple?

It wasn't deep dish. And this is another thing. That deep dish, while it's the most famous, it's definitely not the most eaten pizza in Chicago. That would be the thin tavern style. Thin crust, round pizza cut into squares. Yeah, I like that. I'll tell you what Lucifer's does with their Hawaiian.

They sprinkle a little bit of coconut. Oh, it really sets it alive. Hey, Jim. I'll tell you what Lucifer's does with their Hawaiian. They sprinkle a little bit of coconut. Oh, it really sets it alive. Hey, Jim. And they put some cashews. Cashews, yeah, they put a bit of cashews into it. Jim, article from June 14th, 2021. Domino's Double Decadence Pizza is back on the menu. It's back, baby.

It's back. I'm telling you. You might mock it, but fuck me, have some, and then tell me what you think, and then you can mock it. So there is a... There's just white sauce leaking out. Oh, no, there's a lot of... If they move the box, the bases shift on its axis.

They stick together. There's only moisture. You've got to be a skilled eater. You can't be someone who slowly eats. My wife would have a hell of a time. Is there a thing called a double-decker pizza? I've heard tales from my parents about it in Chicago. Mario or Pizzeria Uno has a double-decker pizza.

You know what's dumb? I think it was Papa John's or something. They brought out that box that had the breadsticks in the bottom and the pizza and then another pizza, and they had it all just in one big box. Oh, yeah. Fuck off. You want several boxes so you can pass them around. You just hate Papa John's.

So Jim was right. There is a dough spinning professional level sporting competition. There is. Yep. It is hard to spin dough. That's the one thing when I can make the dough and then I make the ball, I let them cure. But then when you're actually trying to spread it out and because once you

get a hole in it, you're fucked. You can't, you get a hole. You can't mend the hole. Yeah. I mean, throwing the dope in the air is not necessary and it's probably

detrimental to the pizza. So you should not be doing that. Oh no, no, I'm not doing that, but I'm stretching it with my, like on this, on the table with a fist and then like pulling it out and it's still hard.

It's even the thing that like the thing that you're doing right now in the air, don't do that. Oh, like this, maybe like this. So you're doing a lot of like pushing out. Instead, what you should be doing is just pushing down. Okay. It's going to open easier. This is off topic, Scott. This is what the podcast is all about, right?

So I was gigging the other day. I believe Forrest was, you were with me. The sign language people were there? Yeah. what the podcast is all about right so i was i was gigging the other day i believe forest was you were with me the sign language people were there yeah okay so there was sign language people sitting in the corner and this i've done routines in this before and whenever there's a sign language person sitting in the corner of the stage and they're like a translator you mean yeah okay sign language there's a deaf person i didn't know if you meant there was a deaf person there they have a person signing the show for them. It happens every- Kelly's right.

Translate it. It happens every now and again. But because there's a lot of swearing in my show, now I've known most of the swear words, cunt, bullshit, and I've talked all about that, right? But I said the word slut on the stage. My, my. Ah, the sign language people, the most-

Okay, what do you reckon the sign language for slut is? I know it. Oh, just open her up. That's good work. Good work, sign language people. When are we going to cancel them for their offensive terms? Well, I forgot they were there

and I looked over and I have a thing where I'm holding a baby by its head in a jug right now, and I go like this. I'm holding a baby, and the girl was just like this. It's like, what's going on? There's no word for that. She's just holding a baby by the head. They had two girls there because, you know,

it's a long show, and their arms get tired, and they had to do shifts. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow. It's over two hours. Which pizza chain was started in the back of a broom closet? Jim said Papa John's. Let's go to John's. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Wow. It's over two hours. Which pizza chain was started in the back of a broom closet? Jim said Papa John's.

I was going to do John's. Yeah, correct. And his answer was, yeah. And it's still there. He said it's still there. It's still there. What do you think of Roundtable? I thought they were all right.

I had them once. I loved Roundtable. I don't mind Roundtable. I never had Roundtable. Oh, it's really good. You call yourself a pizza expert. Roundtable, it's the last you call yourself a pizza expert round table it's the last honest pizza

that's their slogan is it really I don't know you always talk a lot about chain pizzas I've look man I've traveled

and eaten a lot of crap food in hotels late at night man I've done it you're looking at a group of very mid-level people the things that get

you people excited I had pizza don't lie in with them I excited. I had pizza. Don't lie to me. I had pizza yesterday because I went 10-pin bowling at Pins in Segoe City with my son. It was all right. Don't let me in with them. I eat at places in LA, individual places that I have, like Hail Mary that's near my house. I love prime pizza.

Prime pizza is fucking fantastic. I have borrowed an Uber Eats guy to your room holding a bag of Taco Bell. Don't act like you're a barber. Pizza I'm talking about. You got the Mexican pizza. Prime pizza is fucking fantastic. Forrest, I have forwarded an Uber Eats guy to your room holding a bag of Taco Bell. Don't act like you're a barber. Pizza. Pizza I'm talking about. You got the Mexican pizza. Now that brings us to Luis Navidad. Luis Navidad.

It's his birthday. Luis's birthday. He's our sound technician over there. Luis, what's your favorite item at the Taco Bell? Mexican pizza comes back May 19th. May 19th, the Mexican pizza. Have you ever had the Taco Bell Mexican pizza? I've never had it. I have had it.

What do you think? Not a pizza. Terrifying. Terrifying. Fair. Yeah, Luis has dreams. Disrespectful. It's double layers, so he can fuck it. It actually, the double decadence when I was just looking at the picture kind of reminds me of the Mexican pizza.

And now I'm thinking like if you put some different type of sauce in between them, it might not gross me out as much. Luis, what's the famous pizza at La Pizza Loca? El Gigante. That one?

Yeah. Oh yeah, have you had La Pizza Loca? No. All right, okay. So what are the toppings? What are the toppings, Scott? What are the-

On an Aussie pizza. When they call it an Aussie pizza, what's the toppings on that? There's always one distinctive topping on there. Pineapple. There's a bit of pineapple on there, but there's one distinctive topping, and that's they always put like a fried egg in the middle. That's like, they just put an egg, and then it cooks in the pizza in the middle.

But that's like in an Aussie pizza, they put an egg in there. Not bad. What are the five basic ingredients used to make pizza dough? Jim said flour, yeast, water, semolina, butter. Yeah, definitely wrong. The question's a little flawed because it's really only four ingredients.

It's just flour, salt, water, and yeast. Trick question. If you were going to say a fifth yeah it would be yeah flour salt water yeast if there was a fifth it would be oil yeah yeah but it depends on the type of pizza you're making like with your backyard wood-fired oven if you're really running it that hot you don't want oil in it you don't want sugar i would use yeah so i'd make two different kinds one had olive oil and the other one didn't which is the the Neapolitan without just, right? Yeah. Scott, if you could have one pizza from one restaurant

for the rest of your life, this is your, or you're on death row after the pizza massacre, right? And you're on death row, final meal, pizza, what restaurant, anywhere in the world? Death row, final pizza, and then I'm done yeah yeah okay so I have two thoughts part of my brain is telling me that I want to get the pizza I grew up with which was like not a great place but it's like you know that pizza that when you when you when you go home you need like oh yeah yeah you. So that's one of my thoughts.

And then my other thought is I want to get something like Papa John's or something that'll make me beg for death. Okay, I'll rephrase that. What's the best pizza you've ever eaten? Okay, that's very different. That's very different. Oh, give me a style. Like zero in on a style. See, when I was in Italy, I was like, this pizza is unbelievable.

You know what I mean? When I was having just the thin crust sort of classic pizza. But let's just say the best pizza you've had, traditional pizza, just a traditional thin crust or, you know. But traditional to who? Like, are you talking about Southern Italian pizza or traditional? Okay, the best pizza you've had in America. Okay. Big difference. Okay. There's a few

pieces that I'm going to pull together for this. Okay. I got it. It's going to be the white pizza, which is just that mozzarella, garlic, and pecorino from Totono's on Coney Island. Oh, wow. We'll have a white pizza. Totono's. They just had a bit of a plug, didn't they? Yeah.

Totono's, send us some pizza. When you eat pizza with friends, do they get bothered that I like you? But, like, you know what I mean? Like, I have a friend who's a big winey, and I don't like to drink wine with them because they're going, the back of the palate, the oaky textures, the blah, blah, blah, blah. Do you do that when you eat pizza? Not at all. No. And my friends sometimes want me to, but I can eat pizza like a normal human. Even though I eat pizza, like I run

pizza tours. Like my job is taking 30 people to a bunch of pizzerias and then talking to them, talk them through the process. But when I'm eating pizza with friends, totally normal. I can eat crap pizza out of a box, not say a word. Do you napkin off the grease? No, no. You keep it in there? No, no, no, but I drip off the grease. Yeah, I drip off the grease.

I don't napkin either. Yeah, I drip off the grease, yeah. But I've seen people who do the napkin and then they eat the napkin. Disrespectful. What is the biggest pizza no-no where you're like, what the fuck are you doing? I think one thing, and I have a lot of thoughts about this, before they even eat the slice or take a bite, they start shaking on stuff. Yeah, yeah. Pepper flakes, oregano, don't do it. Take a bite. Oh, another big pizza no-no that really drives me nuts.

When you get one of those fancy pizzas and there's a ball of burrata in the middle, just like a whole ball sitting there, and they want you to deal with chopping it up and making a mess, it always makes the pizza look bad. I don't think you should fold it. I don't like when people fold the pizza in half.

You have a lot of thoughts about what other people do. I don't do it. We don't have to do it. But keep in mind that the reason that New Yorkers fold the slice is because it's a large diameter pizza and it's thin and they're eating it while walking. So that's the best way. And you can put a hot dog in the middle.

There's a chain Pizza Express, which is where Prince Andrew was going when he was meant to be kittling. So Pizza Express, I don't know if you've when he was meant to be, yeah, kiddling. Anyway, so Pizza Express, I don't know if you've been there. It's a chain. It's quite good. Yeah, it's good.

It's quite good. They have one diet pizza where they just put a bit of salad in the middle and they cut like a substantial amount of the hole out. And that's the diet one because you're eating less and it feels like you're eating more. Oh, my God. That's fuck you. But they bring you out the pizza.

It's a good pizza, but it's not sliced unless you request to be sliced my friend rob heaney who's a comic living in london he used to drive me mad because he's so ocd he would eat the pizza and cut it in a spiral so it always looked like he had a circular pizza right till the end wow madness i love it that is some serial killer shit that's's bad. Holy fuck. Look in his closets. There is shit there. I hope you don't take girls on dates here. You'll never get a second one with your spiral pizza eating. What ingredient is required for pizza to be officially considered pizza?

Jim said bread. Yeah, I'm curious what the answer that you found, wherever you found this was. On this, they were saying tomato sauce, but I don't believe that. Yeah, because it's named Spaghetti's Pizza. Yeah, white pizza. And you said that the start of the pizza at the beginning was just bread with lard, so it's got to be bread.

It depends on who you ask. A tomato company will tell you it's tomato. Fucking big tomato. That's a pizza chain, actually. Come on, it's a white pizza. Yeah, exactly. Who is the Guinness Book of World Records for the biggest collection of pizza boxes?

You said Scott He has 125,000 boxes That's what he says I said 150,000 You said 125,000 He doesn't have that many That's insane I have about 1,700

Is it from different places or is it just bulk like that? No, these are unrelated to the collection Non-collection pizza boxes The pizza box collection Or is it just like bulk like that? No, no, no. These are unrelated to the collection. Oh, okay. Non-collection pizza boxes. The pizza box collection is each is a unique box from a different place. It's 115 different countries. Oh, cool. That's awesome.

If I had a pizza box, some of them, you know, you get that generic one and it's got that chef on with the checkered flag next to him and it just says pizza in cursive like that. I would just get one that just says the word hamburger. I think that'd be a bit of fun. I would love that. And you open it and there's just a pizza. Hamburger's Pizza House.

I have a bunch of boxes that are of that chef motif from all around the world. And you see how each country approaches that chef. It's very cool. Do they change the ethnicity of the chef from country to country? Like in Africa, do you get a black guy doing it? You get an Asian guy in Asia. Does that happen?

Or is it always an Italian bloke with a twirly mustache? It all depends on where you are, but some, some of them change it. I have a box from Kazakhstan where it's this very Kazakh looking guy with this mustache. It's great. What's your favorite name of pizza restaurants?

Like I like a good pun. Have you got any good pun ones or. I really don't like a pun in a pizzeria name. I'm with you. I, I really don't like it. I, you wouldn't go to a little pizza.

My heart. Yeah. What about, what about pizzeria? It's a picture of a bum on the, on the, they specialize in pork butt pizzas.

Yeah, I know. I want to hear more of these crazy names you've heard. Because I really don't. I just like simple, simple names. That's right. Don't fold your pizza. The name of the person who owns it. Staying away from all the goofy stuff. But I really, really hate the super generic names

like Bellanopoly, Fratelli, that kind of thing. Yeah, and don't fold your pizza. No, put ham on it. I'm with you. The debate, pineapple on pizza. Jim says 100% yes. Is there a debate? I didn't know there was a debate.

Yeah, I mean, that's one of the most basic, annoying things that people say. Anchovies would be a debate. Can you put ketchup on a hot dog? No, no. There's a massive debate about pineapple on pizza and people make it their entire personality that they're like, oh, fucking pineapple doesn't belong on pizza. I don't give a shit.

What's your thought on it? Hawaiian pizza is a piece of art, man. Yeah, pineapple on pizza is the most obvious and I think lowbrow thing to bring up just to cause controversy. And I see people bring it up on Twitter all the time and I'm so tired of it. A pineapple is great on pizza, even if it's my opinion that 97% of the pineapple pizzas out there are pretty

bad, but it's still possible to make a really good one. If you don't treat pineapple, like it's just a topping. If you build a pizza around the pineapple, if you roast the pineapple. Yeah. Cause pineapple caramelizes in such a beautiful way and it gets sweeter with the cooking. It's just, I like cook pineapple on a hamburger as well. Like if not on a pizza, if not on a hamburger,

where the fuck are we putting this pineapple? What dishes we need to do? Just dessert into a fruit cup. When I was, when I was in college, I delivered pizzas in my 1977 Dodge Aspen and uh it wasn't it wasn't 1977 it was an old car yeah and a lot of those boxes were filled with drugs no here's the thing i i delivered pizza at a place called rogan's not owned by joe rogan it's called rogan's pizza in ithaca new york and it was the popular pizza chain there it just reminded me because they had a pizza that was pineapple and banana peppers which was amazing it was really good does a really good pizza but one of the

managers is i'm sure he's not there anymore because he's got dealt drugs i don't even know if the place exists anymore but he would be like all right you're delivering this what you would do is you buy the pizza from the pizza place at like a 10 discount as a delivery guy so you'd make that money and then you so you bought the pizza and then he put like a paper bag stapled on top of the pizza also bring that to this address i was like and don't open it i'm like everybody knows you're a fucking drug dealer i know what you're doing right now is now i'm your drug mule bringing this there but the only good thing was you're delivering pizza to people that were that high was weed and they were getting high and then um they'd be like you want

to come in and smoke all right i was in college i just smoke and eat the pizza deliver it's great it's great job made a lot of money but uh i'm probably gonna did you ever have a girl try to shang you like out of a porno no i never had that but i i wanted people to steal my car because it was a night it was an old car that was kept breaking down so i would drive into like cornell university and the other hill that would deliver all the way up there. And I would, it would be like Friday or Saturday night. Everyone would be drinking,

getting out of the bars, going back to like their, their, their dorms, whatever. I would literally leave my car running in the middle of the winter and be like, wow, I hope somebody steals it.

Nobody ever stole it. Nobody ever sold my old piece of shit car, but that was, yeah. And I never had, no, no one ever tried to proposition me as pizza. I had such a shitty car.

I used to put a club lock on the steering wheel. So people knew it wasn't abandoned. Really? Yeah. No one ever tried to give me sex for the pizza. I had a crush on a guy in college that worked at a pizza place. So we would order specifically from

there and then he would deliver it and we would play beer pong and hang out for a while and then he would go back to work. That's the closest I got to fucking a pizza delivery guy yeah i think that pizza place still exists by the way louise maybe you have to bleep out the name everyone will know that's fine um all right now this is part of our show called dinner party facts we ask our expert to give us one fact something obscure interesting that our listeners can use to impress people when they're having a pizza party. What do you got? Oh, wow. So you're going to get a fact.

Here's a useful piece of information about reheating pizza. That best reheat for a pizza is in a frying pan. And I have a controversial way to do it. You start with a cold pan, but you put the slice face

down. Then you turn the slice face down. Then you turn it on medium heat. And when you start to hear the cheese sizzle, you flip the slice. And if you do it right as you start the sizzle, all the cheese will go with the slice. It won't get stuck to the pan. Then you finish the reheat face up. You're good to go. It takes like three minutes. You know what I do? I put it in the air fryer. I do it in the air fryer too. The air fryer is not bad for reheated pizza. I actually think the air fryer is better, but since not everybody has an air fryer, I don't want to throw that out to you.

Big money air fryer. We're showing off your air fryer. Your $50 air fryer. All right, Scott. Well, thank you for being here. The website is called scottspizzatours.com. Go on there. You can find all the information about his pizza tours.

And actually, quick question. Do you have anywhere that you have all of your pizza boxes photographed and on a website? They're not on a website. Come on, man. They're in my personal collection. I know, I know. Come on. The book has about 120 of the boxes. Okay. Since I put

out the book when I had 600 boxes, now I've got 17. You can have a whole Instagram account, a new pizza box a day. I know. I just don't want to deal with that. I'll do it for you. I'll be your social media manager. Okay. If you're in New York and you want to do something, uh, like out of the box, something that you people aren't, uh, aren't necessarily, uh, uh, but yeah, fuck the statue of Liberty. Take Scott's Pizza Tours. Go to Scott's Pizza Tours. She's easy access with those robes.

Scottspizzatours.com. Check out the information there. Also go to sliceouthunger.org to get more information about the nonprofit charity that he runs. And then also the book, Viva La Pizza, The Art of the Pizza Box. There you go. Thanks, Scott. I appreciate that.

If you're ever at a party and someone comes up to you and goes, the best way to reheat a pizza is in the oven, go, I don't know about that, and walk away. Good night, Australia.