I Don't Know About That - Skateboarding with Kelly Hart

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

In this episode, the team discusses skateboarding with professional skateboarder and co-host of the podcast "The Nine Club", Kelly Hart. Follow Kelly on Instagram @KellyHart . Make sure to check. out his podcast "The Nine Club" on Youtube and wherever you listen to podcasts. Our merch store is now live! Go to idontknowaboutthat.com for shirts, hoodies, mugs, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/IDKAT for ad free episodes, bonus episodes, and more exclusive perks! Tiers start at just $2! Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tickets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Okay. Noughts. Crosses. Why isn't it called X's and O's? Pretty good question. What? You might find out on Jim Jaffee. Because I'm looking at the noughts and crosses board.

Wait, what are you saying? Yeah, what is the first word? Noughts and Crosses board. Wait, what are you saying? Yeah, what is the first word? What's Noughts and Crosses? What are Noughts? What do you call that game, Noughts and Crosses? Tic-Tac-Toe? We call it Noughts and Crosses. If you could say Noughts, Noughts.

Like Nought, like Nought, like zero. Noughts, Nights, Nights. Well, it's not Noughts. Nought is never called. Wait, zero is not called Nought. Nought, Nought, you're nothing. Nought. How do you spell it? Like N-A-U-G-H-T. Yeah, Nought. Noughts, Noughts never called. Wait, zero is not called nought. Nought, nought. You're nothing. Nought. How do you spell it?

Like N-A-U-G-H-T. Yeah, nought. Noughts and crosses. Oh, nought. You call it tic-tac-toe, noughts and crosses. X's and O's, tic-tac-toe. Yeah, we call it tic-tac-toe. I honestly have never heard any other version besides tic-tac-toe.

I honestly. Heathen, do you call it noughts and oughts or whatever you call it? Noughts and crosses. Yeah, yeah, still. No good. Noughts and crosses. I've call it? Noughts and Crosses. Yeah, yeah, still. No good. Noughts and Crosses. I've heard tic-tac-toe. Yeah, because that's what it's called.

Noughts and Crosses. If you Google Noughts and Crosses, it'll fucking come up all day. Yeah, I'm sure it'll come up. But I'm saying your country's wrong. That's why I said it. I thought a stupid name for a game, Noughts and Crosses. Oh, because there was also a British drama television series based game, Noughts and Crosses. Because there was also a British drama television series based on the Noughts and Crosses novel.

What? Noughts and Crosses. It's called Noughts and Crosses. It's a TV series. I only recently found out you don't say hip-hip after they sing happy birthday. People of Australia, right, imagine this. You're at a party in America.

They sing happy birthday. What do you do after everyone sings happy birthday you go hip hip and then everyone goes hooray and then you and if you're like sort of an alpha in the group you go i'll do the hip hip today i'll do that and americans don't do the hip hip hooray i feel like here we're just waiting for the song to be over there isn't a lonelier place on earth than saying hip hip after happy birthday and no one saying hooray afterwards. And then also no one sings he's a jolly good fellow here.

And then we sing for he's a jolly good fellow afterwards. Too much. And then we'll do something. Why was she born so beautiful? It's like 20 minutes. It's terrible. Yeah, we have a whole montage of songs. We don't stop. Well, it says tic-tac-toes from American English, knots and crosses, Commonwealth English,

X's and N's, Irish English. History, the game was played, traced back to ancient Egypt. Don't give them too much because that's going to ruin our tic-tac-toe episode. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah. You got some shows coming up, Jim? Knots and crosses. Yeah, I do.

I'll be in Calgary and Edmonton. There's an extra show in, I believe I'm in Edmonton first. There's an extra show on a Thursday in Edmonton that sells tickets. The Friday night is sold out. The Saturday night in Calgary is sold out. The Sunday show has, we put on extra shows. There's a show on the Sunday, so come along to that. I'm going to have three opening acts.

They asked me to put the shows on early and late and i said no because we're doing a long show and i didn't want to rip anyone off and uh do a short show at the beginning and a late long show at the end so uh come and see me edmonton calgary i'm bringing the fam i'm doing the whole thing man um i'll be there with it yeah um and so the only shows that i would like people to come out right now that are on my schedule is april 26th will be the Largo Theater. You'll be on that show too. It's our buddy Orlando Labus show at the Largo Theater. So if you're in LA, go do that. May 19th, if you live in Sacramento, it's the

Starlet Room at Harlow's. One night only. May 19th, we'll be in Sacramento. And last weekend, or no, this would be two weekends ago, I was at Tampa SideSplitters, and a lot of people came out from the podcast. Awesome. And so thank you for coming out. If you listen to this podcast and you came out,

I really appreciate it, doing that. And also, a fan came out, a fan from your show in Tampa and he promised us sneakers and he brought us sneakers to, brought me sneakers to Tampa. And so the artist,

there was an artist that did these sneakers. Oh, they smell good. Yeah, they're, there was an artist that, that did these sneakers. I mean, they smell good. Yeah. They're brand new. Um, so the artist's name is Rojo. R O J O is name of the artist.

Uh, you can find them on Instagram at Rojo, the artist. And he does, um, he's like a Tampa Florida based artist. He does one-on-one artworks and, and he works with creators token.

It's called at creatorsors Token on Instagram. It's a company that will legitimize and monetize a one-of-a-one piece of artwork using NFT. So these shoes have NFTs attached to them. Are they going to go up in value like a Bitcoin? Is it going to be worth it? I can't believe you're wearing the shoes. Well, here's the thing. You put them in a case or something. No, that's what I said.

When they handed me the shoes, I said, I guess I shouldn't wear them. And he was wearing, the artist was wearing, Rojo was wearing a pair of shoes and he goes, yeah, you're supposed to wear them. So I'm wearing them now. I'm not going to wear them in the rain or anything like that. Not for the 100 meter dash? No, not for the 100 meter dash. But very nice of them. I'm wearing my... Me and Jim cannot wear these together, though.

I don't think we can go out and wear them. I think you should. I think you guys need all matching sneakers. Me and Forrest have the same glasses now, but the same level of facial hair. You guys are really veering on, I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry. There's a little picture on the shoes of each of our faces. They look quite different,

so I think we're still looking different. Yeah, yeah, and yours says Forrest on them. Are you size 10 as well? 11. Ah, well, I couldn't even. Yours would be loosey-goosey on me. Yeah, swing around. Yours would feel like I would be loosey-goosey on me. Yeah, swing around. You know, yours would feel like I was fucking an 80-year-old prostitute.

No, well, anyways, thank you to Rojo, the artist who did this. The vagina would be big, you see. I always stick my feet in it. I was laughing at something else. My dick would just rattle around. You can hear it echo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you to Rojo, the artist who did these.

Tic-ts from the plastic plates you had put in there. Thank you to Rojo, the artist that did these and creators token. Let's try it one more time. Thanks, Rojo. Anyways, it was very nice of them to bring it. And thank you to everybody that came out to the shows.

It was awesome. Let's introduce our guest. Now. Let's do some ads I think we'll let's introduce our guest now and then after we do the first one what do you want Luis what do you want

take charge don't just fucking shake your head we'll do some ads Luis is in a bad mood yeah he was in Vegas for last week Just fucking shake your head. We'll do some ads. We'll do some ads. Luis is in a bad mood. Yeah, fucking Luis. Yeah, he was in Vegas for last week. Jesus. It's like the guy goes on vacation every goddamn week and he's still in a bad mood.

I won a thousand at the airport. Yeah, so you should be happy. But I spent like a thousand three hundred. Yeah, so you had a free trip. Three hundred bucks is nothing. Free trip, baby. Baby. Anyway, Luis is in a bad mood, so let's do some ads.

Yeah. Stupid Luis. Give do some ads. Yeah. Stupid Luis. Give me the ads. Idiot. Hey, Kai. Please introduce our guest, Kelly Hart. Oh, wait. Please introduce.

I'm an idiot. I'm fired. No, why don't you introduce him? Okay. Please welcome our guest today, Kelly Hart. Hello. Welcome. Good day.

Good day. We got to play the music. What the fuck is going on? G'day, Kelly. G'day, Kelly. Now it's time to play. Yes, no. Yes, no. Yes, no. Yes, no. Judging a book by its cover. Okay, before you

guess, Kelly is sitting in front of a wall of skateboards. I want to let you know we're not talking about skateboarding. Alright. Or maybe we we are are you a big unicycle guy we might be talking about is there a more arrogant form of transportation than the cut on the unicycle no god no you're trying to look at me you're trying to get and tell oh god at a party you're going around the swimming pool and you're sort of back and forth. Like, fuck you, dude. But jugglers, that's where it's at. Kelly Hart.

Kelly Hart. I feel like Kelly might be famous. It feels like a famous name, Kelly Hart. What do you mean? How do that? Names are famous? Yeah, but it rings a bell. Oh, that's where it comes from.

Kelly, does your topic involve sport? I guess you could say yes. Yes. Is skateboarding part of what we're going to talk about? It's a big part of it, yeah. Is it skateboarding? Okay, you got it. Kelly Hart. Kelly Hart is a professional skateboarder born and raised in

laguna hills california kelly started skateboarding in 1995 and is now team manager for es footwear mob grip tape and rick the wheels he is the co-host of the podcast the nine club and judge for sls skateboard contests and it says here wrote this, I guess I'm an influencer for jumping rope. So I don't even know how that works. And he currently lives in Venice, California. You can find him on Instagram. It's at Kelly Hart. It's H-A-R-T is how you spell his last name.

Thanks for being here, Kelly. Oh, thanks for having me. This is awesome. All right. Look, I've stood on a skateboard. I don't have the balance for it. I gave it a go a few times. I used to skateboard back in the day when they used to put guards

all over the skateboard. There used to be like a pad at the back, and then they'd put two rails down the thing because you wanted to protect your board the whole time. There was a nose guard. Now they feel like you just go, well, it's just a bit of wood. Just buy another one. Before we start, how are you a jump rope

influencer? What he does is he jumps rope and people... You explain it, Kelly. I like saying... I don't know how to explain that, to be honest, because it randomly came into my life, but when I've gotten hip surgery through skateboarding, ankle injuries and whatnot

and I needed to keep myself in shape so I could skateboard so i got into jump roping and next you know i'm like working with this company called cross rope and it's just helped as you get old i'm 37 and so my body doesn't work as good as it did before and it's a better way to keep myself active so um i thought i'd just throw it in there anyway so i'm not sure i dream for my body to feel like it did at 37 and i was doing nothing back then yeah but you weren't a professional skateboarder he's gonna have more injuries than you did i'm assuming yeah did you get you if you got a fake

hip you got a you got a you had a hip hop no i did i did have a hip operation it was like a hip reconstruction it's uh they just shaved down a bunch of bones. It was bone on, or yeah. So like labrum is fully gone, cartilage fully gone. And they had to go in there and put a cadaver labrum in there. And so it just like, they redid it and it feels crazy still,

but it doesn't hurt. When you say cadaver, isn't that a dead body? Do they want me something? No, no, that's a dead body. They put it,

you know, they put a dead body in your hip? What's going on? You know the organ donor stuff when you're licensed and it says, like, oh, you can be an organ donor or whatever? Oh, right. So, oh, I didn't even know. I thought it was lungs, well, hearts and kidneys and stuff like that.

I don't think my mother was like, when she was passing away, it was like, they can donate whatever organs. You're fucking, you're just dying of kidney failure. Like what do you think? You think there's nothing they're going to ship out of you, mum? You're almost 80 years old. We found a good heart. There's some teenagers being a car accident.

Don't worry, we've got Carolyn Nugent's heart. Okay, so here's what we're going to do. I'm going to askim some questions about skateboarding um we'll see what he knows uh and uh kelly kelly the professional skateboarder kelly uh will grade you on zero through ten ten being the best for accuracy kelly you can call me kelly bear kelly bear will grade you on confidence zero through ten i'll grade you on etc we'll add your scores together 21 through 30 skateboarding 11 through 20 waterboarding zero through 10 boarding a southwest flight terrible i love southwest do you know like where skateboard was invented i believe it was invented in california if anything

the video game from Sega called California Games, which had a half pipe game and a surfing game. I think it was invented in, I'm going to say Santa Cruz, California. Okay. Do you know what front side is or backside? I always thought it's the way you stance with it. I always thought it was goofy foot and the other one. That's another question.

What's goofy foot? Goofy foot is if you stand on it like with your left foot. No, your right foot forward, your left foot steering it back, your right foot forward. And that front side and back side? Front side, back side, that would be where your balance is, whether you lean forward on the board or you lean back on the board.

Okay. I don't know. What sport is responsible for the invention of skateboarding? What sport is responsible for the – oh, okay. I know this one. Yeah. These are the ones you should be getting. No, I do know this one.

Okay. Okay. So originally they used to have these boards with little wheels on them that had like a little wooden box at the front with a light on it and then Marty McFly came and ripped that bit off. Ripped that bit off and then he just rode on it and then Biff ends up in Mimua. We all know that forest.

There you go. All right. So I'll give a real answer. Back to the future. Okay. Oh, wow. No, no, let me think. What sport is it?

I would say, this is what I'd say, I'd say it was surfing, and then when the surf got bad, someone put wheels on their surfboard and tried to sort of act like that was street surfing. What is a deck? A deck is the wood, the wood before you have the wheels. What about a truck? A truck's the wheels. Okay.

Okay. wheels what about a truck uh trucks are the wheels okay um uh okay polyurethane wheels were introduced in 1973 why was that important um because before that they were using granite right yeah okay uh polyurethane wheels um i believe that they probably have a bit of give and they could flex because you got the on the rack you you got the access, the bearings that go back and forth. Again, in the 70s, there was a drought. There's been a lot of droughts in California, but why did this help advance skateboarding? Because everyone had to empty their swimming pool

and the kids all got in there and went for it. They did pretty good. Damn. Half pipe, you know what that is? Half pipe is just the up and down. It's a half pipe. A full pipe would be a complete circle. What do you mean pipe, though?

What is it? Like a pipe's like a tube. But it's skateboarding. Yeah, it's skateboarding. It's the ramp that goes up and circle. What do you mean pipe, though? What is it? A pipe's like a tube. But it's skateboarding. Yeah, it's skateboarding. It's the ramp that goes up and down. It's the half pipe. What is an ollie? An ollie?

Yeah. Oh, ollies where you kick at the back and you elevate off the ground. We don't call them ollies. We call them ollies in Australia. No, they're called ollies. Yeah, ollies. Well, because they're named after someone. Do you know anything about that?

Ellie Overton, the Australian swimmer who got a bronze in Atlanta. She went to my school. That's the only reason I know her name. What is a manual pad? Oh, that's when men get their periods. It's with stoppics. It's what you wear after a vasectomy. Oh, that's when men get their periods. It's with Starbucks. It's what you wear after a vasectomy.

What is a shove it? It's how they make the insertion for the vasectomy. A shove it, that would be a stunt. I don't know what the stunt is, but it would be a stunt. I don't think they call them stunts. It would be a stunt. I don't know what the stunt is, but it would be a stunt. I don't think they call them stunts. It would be a trick. Yeah, but okay. It's a trick, but what happens in it? A shove it.

I would say that's something where you get the nose and you put it up on a railing and then you go backwards. Yeah. What is Tony Hawk's famous move? Maybe he was the best at a hand plant okay i i i told you the story i met tony hawk it brings me douche chills every fucking single time you mention his name and i just go i don't remember the story yeah you don't know this story fuck Fuck. All right. So I'd been doing gigs all over the place in Europe, I believe. And then I'd come back to do the Oddball tour. And it was me, Dave Chappelle, Fly the Concords.

Obviously, it wasn't the top billing. They were. So Fly the Concords. I went to one of those with you. I think I was at that one. No, I did a whole heap of them. This one was in Vegas. Oh, I did the arena.

So this was at the MGM Arena where they had the boxing. So it was like 15,000 people. And so I'd just flown in, got off the thing and I was one of the first acts on. I think Silverman was on this one as well and so I went on, did me set and then

I fucking went back to my dressing room which was like a locker room for the boxers. There was all these type of things. And I sat on a bench and I'd swiped a bottle of vodka and I just drank by myself, just really just got hammered because I was just going to go to bed because I'd been flying the whole day and being a long day. And I got hammered all by me lonesome in this room.

And then fucking one of the promoters knocks on the door and says, Tony Hawk wants to meet you. And I'm so fucking leglessly drunk. And he'd asked to meet me after the show and said he was a fan or whatever or a friend of his was a fan. I can't really remember. I was leglessly drunk. And he was there with I assume his wife.

I'm going to say yes, it was his wife. And he came in and I was leglessly fucking drunk. And I was like, don't you enjoy the show? And he was just like yeah I thought you were really funny man I really enjoyed blah blah blah and then I thought what common conversation can I have with him I'm so mashed up

and we all know I'm a pinball enthusiast I'd recently I'd recently watched the episode of Cribs of Tony Hawk's back when his son was like eight and they had like a fucking South Park pinball machine in his son's bedroom.

And I went, and I went, your son has a South Park pinball machine. That's pretty good one. You got to roll the ball up into the toilet. It's pretty hard to get in there. And he goes, my son does have that. And I go, yeah.

It's on the second story, so I'm sure it makes a lot of noise when you and the wife are trying to watch TV downstairs. And he went, you should go to bed, man. And he was like, it's been really nice meeting you. And he fucking came to meet me. And then I was a fucking mess, man. Oh, even now I feel just. Callie, can you get word back to Tony Hawk that Jim apologizes?

I'll let him know. We'll use this as a clip and we will appeal to him Hawk that Jim apologizes? I'll let him know. We'll use this as a clip and we will appeal to him on social media. I assume he'll remember. How could you forget? I think even Dave Chappelle was still on stage or something. He came especially back to meet me. I was so... I was all by myself and I was like...

I wasn't even in a room. Did you like, I wasn't even in like a room. Did you really? I wasn't even in like a room with a bowl of fruit or nothing. I was like, I was laying down on one of those benches in locker rooms with all the slats on it. Oh my God. Just a bowl of vodka. Yeah, with just a bowl of vodka next to me.

Oh my God. I don't know that story. I haven't told you that story. I thought I did. All right. Are these the donuts? It's one of those ones that I feel so ashamed about it that I don't mention it often, but I have.

I'm sure I've told you. Anyway. All right. Let's keep going here. Let's get to some more questions. Forrest ordered donuts. Oh, yeah. Donuts are here.

All right. What is the leap of faith, and was it ever landed, Jim? Oh, the leap of faith, I want to assume, is those big monster ramps where they go all the way down, and then they go up, and it's like a huge, big thing. I believe it has been landed. Which comedian is also a pro skateboarder? Which comedian is a pro skateboarder?

Yeah. Oh, my golly. Or has been. I don't know if they're currently. Steve-O's not a skateboarder. There's also a comedian whose son is a professional skateboarder. He still might be one of the tops. I don't know that answer.

I don't know. How do competitions work, like scoring, et cetera? How do they do it? Well, what they do is they try to keep it out of the Olympics because they're all on drugs. No, it's in the Olympics now. Ah, skateboarding. Yeah, that's going to fuck things up.

This is the first Olympics, honestly. I believe back in the day they were just happy with their X Games, like, don't worry about it. The Olympics is like, how about you give it a go? We're all high. Scoring. Scoring. How's the scoring i believe it's the same as um when you score a

diver or um ice skating and you have different judges and then the tops the top score in the bottom saying how competitions work but no the top score in the bottom score is taken away and then it's the average score from from the rest of it okay we'll get into what is a skate stopper you know what that is um uh oh uh that's when you put like um little right little bits of concrete on the floor so they can't do it okay there's something they do like that like that that foot braille stuff that foot braille braille no foot braille is real stuff i know i like that's that stuff it's that stuff is that what it's really called yeah yeah when you when you get up to the lights and they have those little dimply bits. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

That's for blind people. Yeah, it's foot braille. I've never heard of foot braille. Foot braille is for blind people. I assume something like that is a skate stopper. Okay, a couple more questions. When was the first ever skateboarding competition? Where was it held?

I want to say the first ever skateboarding competition would have been, because the ones in the 70s those boards weren't really um in the 80s it's definitely i'm going to say 1976 and it was held in held at venice beach when was street league skateboarding founded and by whom? It was founded by Kelly in 2004. Kelly Hart? Kelly Blackheart. Okay, Kelly. You know me. What is a fakie tre fakie manny?

What? A fakie tre fakie manny? A fakie would be when you go to do a stunt and then you're like, what? It's a trick. Yeah, you go to a stunt and then you're like, what? But then it's a trick. It's a trick. Yeah, you got to do it and then you're like, what? And that's a fakie, trefakie, manny? Yeah, the trick is I did another trick when he thought I was going to do another trick.

Then manny. It's like when you go to bump and then you get a home run. No, no, manny is when you get the fat kid from Modern Family to do it. And what's a fakie tree fakie petty? Oh, that's a thin person. What is El Toro? That's your last question. El Toro is a very, very cheap tequila

with a little plastic red hat on it that's mostly used for cooking. Hi, Kelly. How are you doing there, Kelly Hart? How did Jim do zero through 10, 10 being the best on his accuracy escape? I know the beginning went well, but how do you feel he did overall? I'm going to honestly say like an eight. There was a few that weren't really there, but for the most part, I wouldn't say you were pretty spot on. Yeah.

Really nice, Kelly. Yeah. Nice. Okay. Did I get Santa Cruz? I feel like I pulled that one out of me. No. Kelly Zabilski.

How do you do on confidence? I'll give you a, I was going to give you a six on confidence, but then the, what? Up to you one. So you're going to get a seven. 15 total.

All right. Minus 10. It means you're boarding a Southwest flight. Have fun, buddy. Have fun with that. 15 total. You give me nothing. Et cetera. It Southwest flight. Have fun, buddy. Have fun with that. I don't need a 15 total. You give me nothing.

Et cetera. It goes all over the place, man. Yeah, you know. I don't know. I don't know if we score this properly. You're asking how skateboarding scored. I feel like our scoring system is fairly loose. We explain it every week.

Pretty solid. It's consistent, at least. So where was skateboarding invented then? Personally, I know it's California. That's something maybe I should know, but that was so before my time. I don't know exactly where it was, but

it definitely came, like he said, or like from surfing. Southern California. Yeah. In the early 1960s. Did you see the Lords of Dogtown? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I talked about on our pre-interview there the whole time. I was like, Lords of Dogtown. Okay, well, let's ask

this. So what is front side and back side and goofy foot? Jim said, did he have that right? Goofy foot, he said, right foot forward. Yeah, you had it. You went from left and you put the right in front. So I was like, yeah, there you go. It's right foot forward and left foot in back. And then regular foot would be left foot in front and then right foot back now it doesn't are some people because i i think i think i ride goofy because i was going to ask because i always

associate it with being like left-handed but it's not really that it's just how you're comfortable i guess right it's just how you're comfortable you'd be surprised i don't know some people yeah i don't know is there prejudice against the goofy footed uh no you know what i mean there's a thing called switch dance so people what these they're learning now is that like you can skate regular footed and goofy footed so it's like you can skate but if you you ever got into a fight with a fellow skateboarder and gone you goofy footed fuck there is no there is no hatred between the two it's the modern west side until i get on the tour throw a few spanners in the goofy foot's world um sport responsible for invention of skateboard there's a lot of marty mcfly answers there back

and then you said surfing. And I believe that's correct, right? Dude, like it was crazy. You brought up the Back to the Future because that was, I remember watching that as a kid, but the generation, I wasn't skating then, the generation that started back then, they got really influenced by that

because there was no skate videos or really anything going on. So that was a big inspiration for a lot of the skateboards back in the day have you ever hung on to the back of a car to get to school in time oh getting like hitched or whatever or uh no i kind of that's like a new york or east coast thing i want to say oh really oh that's a real thing i thought that was just the back of it because we thought i remember thinking that guy's cool as fuck, man. He's late for school, he's hanging on the Jeep,

and then the guy looks back and he just sort of goes. And then he's like, all right, Marty. And then the bit where the skateboard goes underneath the car, then he runs through the car. God, I've got to watch that movie again. It's so fucking. You've got plans to paint. It's so good. And he shows up and he's like, you can have it back. I'm keeping this

port. Like, ah, it's great. And then he does that thing where it bounces up. Fuck. I saw it for the first time last year. Back to the Future? My wife had never seen it. She came to it begrudgingly because she thought it was a stupid, like a boys movie or something like that. And then I saw her like when

the car was racing along and the thunderbolt and she was like, come on, come on, come on. It is really good. Cause there's a lot of like classics that I never saw growing up. And so I'm seeing them for the first time as an adult and I'm 35. So not everything holds up, but I really did like Back to the Future. It holds up. I'll tell you what doesn't hold up.

The Last Starfighter. Fucking hell that's a let down all these years. I used to love that movie. What is that? Oh, you gotta watch it. It's brilliant. Not good. It wasn't good. What is that? Oh, you gotta watch it. It's brilliant. Not good. It wasn't good.

What is a deck and a truck? Jim said deck is a board, trucks are wheels. How do you do there? Well, so I have my board right here. That's what they look like. That's a truck. Right, yeah, that's the trick. Those things that hold the wheels to the board pretty much.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I meant. And you were right about the deck, though. Yeah, good job. How many skateboards do you own? I can tell you right now he owns seven. He has all of those

in that one. Yeah, I don't know. I have a lot of ones I have saved. You know what I mean? Just so I could like, if this one gets messed up. I think I have like eight in my closet right now. I assume there's famous artists, like those ones that you have behind you, you obviously like them for the artwork, right?

Are there like famous artists or is it just like famous brands that do this? So for this, like these are like the ones directly behind me still are like, this one's my first, one of my first graphics ever when I turned pro. So it kind of means a lot. And one's a like a graphic my mom thought of when i was a kid like i had to brag it to you that graphic's been around for hundreds of years kelly hart king of hearts

yeah i used to skate my board backwards when i was a kid i would skate the nose is the tail Kelly Hart, King of Hearts. I used to skate my board backwards when I was a kid. I would skate the nose to the tail and people thought I was nuts for that. And so I would have my stickers on backwards and my mom was like, why don't you just make a board like a card series or something like King of Hearts that like you could look at it and it's the same both ways pretty much. How did you first because i have a friend of mine whose kid is about 10 and showing a lot of prowess as a skateboarder and and he he's not a skateboarder he's just like the kid just picked it up did you have influences

in your life or is it just watching like you know as you said skateboarding videos or something like that or do you have a relative that was got you into it out of that or work out no honestly it was like i i grew up a major jock like playing baseball football basketball and then my friends came skating down the street i thought looked really cool i've tried it out um and then i kind of realized they showed they can do tricks with it and that's what like blew my mind and if you really think about it like there's so much you can do with that like within the canvas of a world that we live in we're like there's stairs and handrails and all these things and my mind just got obsessed with it and i it i i fully came obsessed with it and i let it just take away yeah when i was a kid i we were talking about yesterday

but i i was fully into skateboarding for a long. And that was part of the allure was the freedom of it too, was I would just tell my mom, I'm going to meet up with my, my friends, uh, Charlie and other people were going to go skateboarding. And then we would just go all over like the little area we lived in South Miami.

And what we'd find places be like, Oh, look at this. We can come off the skateboard on here and come down here. And then this, and we didn't, it was like pretty pure back then. Cause there's no,

obviously no cell phones. I'm like that. We didn't bring cameras. We're just out there doing it. And that was like and we and it was like pretty pure back because there's no obviously no cell phones i'm like that we didn't bring cameras we're just out there doing it and that was like the whole it was just really fun and we'd just be sitting on the board just drinking like a soda hanging out it was really one of the worst like bike accidents or skateboard accidents the worst accident i had as a kid was on a skateboard and i didn't break anything but fuck me i can still picture it in my head. There was this street. I was a very good skateboarder and there was this street and the asphalt, you call it asphalt here? Asphalt, yeah.

Asphalt. Anyway, so the asphalt was all like bubbly type of stuff. It wasn't the smooth stuff. And so the skateboard would go down this hill. It was a very steep hill. It would go down at a pretty reasonable pace but nothing to ride home at. Anyway, they redone this road and I didn't know about it. And I went to this hill and they made it into the smooth stuff.

Fuck me. I went hell for leather down this fucking thing. And I was just like, oh. And then I got the death wobbles, right? And the thing started wobbling like that. And then you do the bit where you go, I have to bail out on this because I'm about to fall down. And you run, but you're moving faster than you can run. So you do like a few steps.

All right, I'm going to keep up with that. And then I just went bang and smashed my face and blood coming out of everything. And I remember just, I can still remember this, just sliding down the road and just looking at my arm, just the flesh tear off. I can still remember it. Yeah, i've still got a scar on my

elbow from it i used to have my dog my dog named woo and woo would pull me on my skateboard and i would like and she would we'd just be cruising along on a good pace and one day she saw a cat that wasn't good and then she started just running and i was like ah and then the board started just wobbling a little bit and the same exact thing as as you're talking about, like trying to catch up. But I made it off the concrete, but then there was just these shrubs, bougainvilleas, you have them here, with like thorns or anything. Bougainvilleas. Yeah, I went straight into that, and that was one of the words.

I got scars on my body. We're having a lot of accent problems today. I say bougainvilleas. You say bougainvilleas here. No, I say bougainvilleas. I know you say it, but bougainvilleas. I know, but like I didn't know that you say bougainvilleas. I don't know what that word is.

Bougainvilleas. How many accidents do you have many i'm sure you've had a ton right he's had his hip replaced they put a human in there well dude the crazy part the hip thing is that just wore out over time that wasn't like i didn't fall like it just like oh your your hips gone like you know what i mean like your hips done you could have got that from being a vigorous fuck. Like, you'd be like me. Don't move much. Let them get on top. Yeah. I mean, that too.

Jim's donating his hips later on. I have the hips of an eight-year-old. But I've broke my ankle. It's been completely sideways and turned around. I always trip out. All this stuff happens. You get surgeries and your foot's hanging

off sideways, but for some reason all I want to do is just keep skating. So it's kind of like a weird thing. Like the song Tub Thumping. It is a little bit like that. Yeah. I said to Kelly that I could work Chumbawammer into every podcast. You get knocked down, but you get back up again.

Was there ever an accident where you're like, fuck this? This is stupid. I should drive a car. You know what I mean? He might even have a driver's license. Well he might even have a driver's license well i do have a driver's license yeah congrats yeah you get to the hospital that's what i know about the organ donor thing but uh i um when i was a kid in my garage i was skating by myself and i was trying this trick called a fakie heel flip and dude my board had been so skated down that was called

razor tail it's just like super sharp edges my board went straight up like credit card like right in my nuts like so small that like my legs didn't even hit the ground so like i was just like that and i that was a really weird part where I was like, dude, this shit, there's some consequences to what I'm trying here. Yeah, now you're infertile. That's when you figured it out, when you got hit in the nuts. You didn't look at a plank of wood

with some small wheels on it and go, there's a chance I could fall off this. I mean, I'll eat shit all the time, but when you hit your nuts, man, that's a different story. If you walk online, people people sack it like on handrails. Yeah. That's painful to watch.

That's really painful. I've done it one time, but it didn't exactly hit my nuts. So I was all right. I feel without skateboarding, we don't have the jackass generation. It was all the fails or anything like that. It was watching you guys do stunts and smashing in and then getting up and doing again and all your mates laughing that was the impetus for that to start i reckon yeah i mean uh so bambar jara and all those dudes they they had a video

called cky back in the day and that's where like initially jackass started they made a skate video and they were doing wild ass shit they incorporated like throwing a dummy off of a bridge onto someone's car and you're like holy shit that was insane but like you can make someone just think you hit them with i don't know and then like and then they incorporated skateboarding into it and that's how it got like taken to this next level oh okay yeah yeah i thought i thought something. You know who I really quickly who is the woman on the pink board? Because I can't read it. Oh, so Wilson is my buddy, Jerron Wilson. He's one of the co-hosts as well on the podcast that I'm on.

It's a character from a skate. It's a really quick character from a skate video. I grew up watching. Gotcha. It's like a little skit and she like just pops in real quick. It looks a little bit like Cherie Curry. So I couldn't I couldn up watching. It's like a little skit and she pops in real quick. It looks a little bit like Cherie Curry, so I couldn't tell. Hey, are you enjoying this podcast? Sure. Sure you are.

But if you'd like to enjoy it even more, what have we got for us, Kelly? We have a Patreon. We have bonus content, no ads, all that good stuff. Patreon.com slash IDKAT and follow us on Instagram at IDKAT Podcast. The bonus content is actual extra podcasts.

It's us shooting the shit. It's us shooting the shit. Loose, free-range podcasting. If anything, it's more enjoyable than what you're listening to now. Back to the show. What's your favorite skateboarding movie? I'll tell you mine first. It's Beverly Hills Cop for Citizens on Patrol. Mine is Back to the show what's your favorite skateboarding movie i'll tell you mine first it's beverly hills cop for citizens on patrol mine is back to the future uh citizens on patrol

wait what's kelly kelly hart what's your favorite skateboarding movie uh i would i mean i would go back to back to the future but so i haven't i'm not like a big movie bus but but uh but from the past but like you mentioned that that movie and then like police academy people uh say that about skateboarding like there's a bunch of movies in the cube tony hawk's in the police academy movie i mean the cube is the one i go for and you know who tony hawk is the stunt skateboarder for in citizens on patrol which spells cop by the way oh you said beverly hills cop No, no, not Beverly Hills. Police Academy.

Okay, didn't you say Beverly Hills Cop? Oh, I got it wrong. Police Academy, Citizens on Patrol, Police Academy 4, right? And Tony Hawk is on it because I remember watching it and seeing him in the credits and all that sort of stuff. He's one of the skateboarders. There's a whole lot of famous skateboarders in it. But he is the stunt skateboarder for David Spade.

Oh, that's right. David Spade's the punk teenager who's around the shopping center like, I'm going to skate wherever I want to skate. And then when we look at his feet, it's Tony Hawk. That's amazing. Well, Gleaming the Cube was with Christian Slater, and it's like his brother dies. His adopted brother is murdered, maybe,

and he's trying to figure out what happened. And then he uncovers a government conspiracy I was just seeing there's a lot of pro skaters in it Mark McGill, Rodney Mullen, Lance Mountain which is my first board Tony Guerrero

I like Foxporters has skateboarding progressed so you know when you talk about baseball and then they argue oh babe ruth did all these home runs but no one was throwing over 88 miles an hour or what you know what i mean has skateboarding since the heyday of the tony hawks of this world um how are they are they night and day better now or is everyone so yeah i would say so that actually definitely i mean the

skate parks now that people can go to like they're all over the place now like even compared to when i grew up like i had a skate park that came around when i was 15 it was like very like whatever so kids now have like access to vert ramps to handrails to ledges to manual pads like all like they can skate anything nowadays and i can't like i dropped it on vert which is like the big tony hop or that i almost shit my pants dude that was like that was the hardest thing i've ever done i feel like like it was like i was a 13 foot vert ramp but uh like if you want down there's like 13 year old girls uh in the olympics like doing tricks that are like unbelievable that like, you know, are winning like gold and silver medal.

So it's like it's from men and women skateboarding. It's definitely been a lot. I think with the YouTube era and just social media in general, like any skill that you can possibly learn people are at such an advantage yes when i was when i was young when we skateboarded we had skateboarding magazine and thrasher magazine those were two magazines and they would have this is the trick of the month whatever and it would be hand-drawn or it would be like still frames of and you were like i guess we'll try and figure this shit out and now you can like pause pause pause pause pause look at your feet this time i feel like that helps a lot but i think the the skate park, like you said, Kelly, is a huge thing.

Because when I grew up in Miami, we did a lot of street skating, but there was no, barely anyone had any half pipes or quarter pipes or anything, and there was no skate parks. And we thought like California was like this magical, like we're like, if you go out to California, everybody skateboards out there. And I just imagined that the culture was so much different. And I think it's like worldwide. But I like to go when I'm at

Venice Beach, that's my favorite bit. I go down and watch the kids skateboard. I've been removed a few times by the police. Can't have your dick out. You can, you just gotta be very crafty. Yeah, sometimes.

Sorry, go Kelly. I was just gonna say when it comes to like sports, like, you know, they're very confined to what they have. Like they have a field, right? There's only so much you can do in that one field unless I don't know. Skateboarding, there's always going to be progression. Like it's never going to stop. There are tricks being done these days that I'd never, I'd never thought were even possible. You know what I mean? So.

And the boards must have gotten better. The technology must have gotten slightly better or is it pretty much the same? Because I remember those ones in the 70s where they had the roller skate wheels. They had the real big ones. And we all had that plastic board that was sort of just like that sort of,

you know, that cliche looking blue board with a little bit up. And then they made the bigger boards. And then they started having the bend at both ends and all that type of bullshit all right you probably know more you're on point like the way the skateboards have actually shaped is like uh well i had when i first started i had a flat ass board i got from target where like a little kicktail and like you couldn't even think tricks were possible on that thing. You know what I mean? But now you have a board like this.

It's like both sides. It's called a popsicle shape, I guess you want to call it. And it's more of a technical board. But yeah, I mean, people are sort of disusing wood and it's kind of been the same for the last 20 years, I guess.

Do you think it's a good form of transportation? Whenever I see someone skateboarding to get somewhere, I feel like there's got to be an easier way. I think, well, for me, because I'm comfortable with it, that like you put like some bigger cruiser wheels on there that like can go over cracks easier. But, you know, sometimes I will say this, like I live in San Diego for a while.

I would go to my roommate, Walker Ryan, when he went to UCSD and he would, I would go in there with him and skate and kids would get long boards and they're super fast and they would use it for transportation, but they don't know how to write it. So they would haul ass down in the campus and you would be so many crazy accidents, like ambulances getting called and stuff like that based off of, if you're going to get a skateboard, try to know what you're doing.

Like, you know, don't just get on it and think, oh, it's cool. Yeah, but you only learn from your mistake. I've been snowboarding a couple of times, twice I've given it a go. It's not my skill set but but i was trying on the kids ramps and i remember once i was just franging down the fucking hill and i didn't know how to turn the things i was just yelling at children out of the way kids out of the way barreled into someone's mom well that's how your first child was born here's an advancement i asked wheels used to be made of something else you said granite that was

not right but they were made kind of close i don't know that kelly they used to be made out of they were out of clay i think before yeah like in the very beginning and then they turned the pot the polyurethane yeah and i was reading that that was like with the drought you said because it was another question you got right about them emptying the swimming pools but once they were polyurethane i guess they were able to mimic more that ride that smooth ride and be able to like grip better i guess to services and things like that so yeah clay wheels i don't even understand you jump in it would crack if you landed i just i don't think people were doing a lot of tricks back then when they had clay that started to happen when the trick started to

elevate like the technology kind of went with it, right? To go to the poly or anything. You ever put this thought of putting like, like track wheels just out the side and your boards in the middle and you're way high up. Is anyone like how big? A lifted skateboard. No, because the wheels are like that.

Stars and straps. Just like, you know, those douchey American pickup trucks that are too big. Yeah, it's just everybody in the 909. There's a bunch over in Glendale. There's basically dirt boards. They have boards you can ride in dirt that are basically that. They're massive ass wheels with like trucks

and I would never do it personally, but I think they're out there. Okay, so the half pipe you got right. Ollie, as you said, was a little kick in at the back and jump up. You can get up on a gutter. It's not named after Ellie Overton. It was named after, um,

Alan, Ollie, Gelfand. She went on the bronze man. His names are similar, but there's a skater named Rodney Mullen. That was, that was the one that said we're naming it the Ollie after Ollie,

since he invented it. I guess Rodney, uh, perfected it. I don't know the initially or yeah well uh dude rodney is like he invented so many tricks that we that have bloomed into like all this amazing stuff so i mean he's i guess he stays like the godfather in a way have you you invented any? I don't think I've invented. I've maybe done a trick that was hard that no one's done since, but it's very specific, but nothing

named after me or anything. What's your hardest trick? What's your one where you go? That's one of our questions, maybe, right? I don't know. Well, let me kind of say this, too. If you're... Don't ever ask anyone that question as a skateboarder. hey dude what's your hardest trick it's like all right you don't ask me to tell a

fucking joke we'll call it even why don't you ask a skateboarder that I don't know it's like it's like uh it's a it's like I don't know it's like hey I knew Ollie or like how many boards can you Ollie it's like it's like a weird question I don't know we're taking an interest in your life here.

You go to dinner parties. Don't ask me about skateboarding. I'm sick of talking about skateboarding. Well, it's like this. It's like, uh, I would tell you guys, if you were to, um, you know, grab a skateboard, one thing you would do, I would tell you never to do is grab it by the trucks and carry it. That's like, that's called a mall grab.

If you see someone doing that, you're like, as a skateboarder, you're like, oh, that person has no idea about skateboarding. Why can't you grab it like that? What's wrong with doing that? That's how I always grab it. It's the easiest way to carry it. Don't use the handle on the side of the board.

You'll look like a fucking hack. What you do is you put it up against your shirt so the Velcro-y type bit on the side makes everything pill. Imagine getting your groceries you'll look like a fucking hack what you do is you put it up against your shirt so the velcro you type it on the side makes everything pill imagine getting your groceries bagged and then you just have to pick them up like this and carry them out but hey it's like i don't know and you roast me on this too but i don't know much about comedy like when in your field of like how things work and like i'm sure there's like kooky things you're like oh man you never do that like no he was he was being serious about the comedian thing when you when you tell anybody you work in comedy they're like oh tell me a joke the problem would tell us a joke is you're never

gonna make them happy i'll tell you what's worse than tell me a joke is i have a joke for you oh yeah oh my god oh my fucking god and so people do it. They come and like they, look, first of all, I do these meet and greets after my show. I really enjoy it. People always come up to me and go, you must hate this. It's not. It's a wonderful experience. Everyone's really nice to you. And so people come up, but then someone

will go, I got a joke for you. And I go like this. All right, I'm not going to laugh. You understand I know a lot of jokes. I've heard a lot of jokes. I probably am not going to laugh. And then they go, oh, no, I'll tell it anyway. Oh, I'm going to go laugh. You understand? I know a lot of jokes. I've heard a lot of jokes. I probably am not going to laugh. And then they go, oh, no, I'll tell it anyway. Oh, I'm going to go. And then you don't laugh. And then you're an asshole.

And you're like, I told you. Yeah. Yeah. No one ever does. I don't want to ever come up to you. I got a trick. Watch a trick. Here you go.

I'll tell you the joke. If people go, if people go, people go, you got a joke. You go an Irishman and a Scotsman and Englishman walk into a bar and they all agree you're a cunt. Quickened to the point. Wait, some people do walk up to you and show you tricks? No. I wouldn't say that, but I don't know.

Well, he is a judge. That's a competition. I'm talking about just the same person person walking up and telling us a joke but I will say if you're a comedian and you take the mic out of the stand and you leave the mic stand there that's probably the same thing as picking up a board by the truck maybe it's in your line site

and you're walking around I still see people do it on specials to this day and I'm like at the screen move the fucking mic stand so it's probably the same type of thing there is those things in like kind of all sports or whatever you do. You know what I mean? Like there's a man.

You just can't do that. I've yelled that out of the eulogy. Move the mark stand. It's a post. Stop crying. You got to show power up there. Yeah. I think like any type of community, there's a there's a lingo to things.

There's a way things go. So you can tell imposters fairly easily based on comfort level. I got one for you, Kelly. There's an undercover cop and he's trying to infiltrate, like 21 Jump Street, the skateboarding community. What sentence would he say where you'd go, get the fuck out of here? Oh, man.

Probably, hey, what's your best trick? Is the word gnarly still used in your community do you still say gnarly gnarly yeah for sure all right yeah stood the test of time it's been around since i was a kid i thought gnarly would be back back in the day um what i think that would be like gee willikers oh peanuts what is a manual pad jim said when men get their periods and what you wear after I think that would be like G. Willikers. Ah, peanuts. What is a manual pad? Jim said when men get their periods and what you wear after a vasectomy. I don't think that was right. It's not wrong.

Maybe a different world. But yeah, a manual pad is when a manual is when you bow. Oh, it's when a Mexican guy does it. That's a manual. Luis laughed. Luis laughed so manual. Oh, okay. Luis laughs. Luis laughs.

Luis laughs so he doesn't get canceled. I thought, I thought, I thought, oh, don't fucking do it. Now he's laughing and he's looking at, fuck you, dude. Fuck you and the wooden car you drove. That was uncalled for. So, Kelly, what does a manual have? A manual, so a manual is when you balance on like the back two wheels or the front two wheels so like a wheelie i guess you

would say when people do it on a bike um and a manual pad would be like a like a little like box or something that you would or a manual like or a pad that you would balance on the manual okay and what's the what's the manual that you would balance on the manual. What's the manual? That's the being on two wheels. That's the manual. What is a shove it? You're the expert, Kelly.

Jim didn't get that right. I can read Jim's answer again. I'll give it an answer. He said put the nose on the railing. If you put it up there fast enough, you need a manual pad. So a shove it is when you're like going straight and you just, the board does a 180, but you don't change your stance. Oh, I've seen shove its.

Yeah, I like those. It's like magic. Is it the same as a push shove itit? Is that all the same thing? Pop shove-it. Pop shove-it. Pop shove-it is when you actually hit the tail and it goes in the air. What is Tony Hawk's famous move? Jim said he's best

at the hand plant. The hand plant. He did do those a lot. He still does. He's a legend. His famous move is the 900. which is what 900 degrees so that's like twice and then another half yeah 360 plus 367 plus another half two and a half turns wow and he did it like in a live competition. So like it was the first time a trick being done pretty much. And then like on it,

he did it in several other dead competitions, but no one was there to see it. Goofy foot. You got right. What is a leap of faith? Was it ever landed? He said he assumed as a big monster ramps and it has been landed. When you were thinking of is the mega ramp,

which doesn't sound like the same to be honest though that was pretty close uh which is insane if i i love watching on the tv the bicycle riders are like even more but the skateboarder seems very dangerous yeah it's it's gnarly but the leap of faith is like it was at a school down in san diego i think and it was just like a two-story like over a handrail to a complete drop down another story, like a flight of stairs. So like jumping off the second story to flat. Oh, it's a place. It's like an actual place in San Diego.

It was an actual school. They took it out. But Jamie Thomas, it's like probably the most famous trick that was never landed. Like he. So he landed on it, broke his his board and then that was it but he's the only one who didn't end up like kind of mangled after trying it right like he was that was like the most successful attempt yeah i think he tried it once he did like i think he did some sort of grab down it so the board would stay underneath his feet and then he uh he was broken in the middle and

then when he wanted to go back he wanted to go back to try it and then they remodeled the school oh damn and did you ever give it a go hell no what are we talking to you for i think i get to talk about skateboarding once. Which comedian is a pro skateboarder? Jim did not know. I got to change my answer. Jim Gaffigan. Do you know?

Pop shove it. Do you know this, Kelly? I want to know. I know that Mark Norman grew up skateboarding. Yeah. But he's not a pro skateboarder. It was Tom Green. Wait, Tom Green? Yeah. But he's not a pro skateboarder. It's Tom Green. Wait, Tom Green.

Yeah. Tom Green. Really? Did have a, he had a board on birdhouse. He's friends with Tony Hawk and Tony Hawk gave him a pro model skateboard. That's right. He even skateboarded in Freddie.

He got fingered. Yeah. He skateboarded. Now there's a famous, there's a famous skateboarder whose dad is a comedian. I don't know if you know, they have the same name. I don't know if you know that. I don't even know if you know this comedian he was an older school comedian he's still around paul rodriguez i was gonna say no no but paul rodriguez and his son his son is still paul i mean we talked on the patreon about

i'm not being mean to gilbert godfrey i know he passed away we talked very nice about him on the other podcast. Subscribe to the Patreon. He goes by P-Rod, right? The pro skateboarder. Paul Rodriguez is probably one of the best skaters in the world. His dad's a comedian. Paul Rodriguez. The comedian, yeah. He was in Crocodile Dundee 3.

Yeah, he was, yeah. Oh, that's a real celebrity. No, but years ago I did shows with, with, with Paul Rodriguez, a comedian. And I think it was when his son, the P-Rod was like,

he was just coming up or he, maybe he just got the Nike sponsorship, but he was like watching skateboarding videos. I go, what are you watching? He goes, Oh, my son,

he's a professional skateboarder. And you're always like, ah, I'm sure he is whatever. And then he goes, Oh, he's P-Rod. I go,

Oh yeah, I know who that is. He's more famous than his dad. I'm way more famous than his dad now at this whatever. And then he goes, oh, he's Peter. I go, oh, yeah, I know who that is. I was like, holy shit, that's your son? He's more famous than his dad. I'm way more famous than his dad now at this point. It's like, he's amazing. Who gets the best looking women out of, right? So you've got like, so I know like my brother's a cop, right? But I always think that firemen look better pussy than the cops

because of the outfits and they're saving people and fire and all that type of stuff. Skateboarders, okayers okay rollerbladers i'm not even putting in the competition you're talking about bmx riders yeah like so bmx riders skateboarders surfers who's got the most rampant female or any fan base who's got the best fan base i I would say surfers, probably, if you're known. Skateboarder, I mean, surfing is massive, dude. It's insane. Yeah.

I would probably say surfers and then skaters. Then BMX last, huh? Surfers are out in the water, their shirts off, and whatever, I don't know. That would be my assumption cool names like Kelly

exactly surprised you haven't brought up BMX Bandits yet what did you think of the movie BMX Bandits have you seen it I don't even know what that is that's in your community it's the BMX this is a movie Jim likes

it's a great movie think of think of a young nicole kidman all right now think of her if she had like a huge afro and she had to put a helmet over the top of it right and and she was she she had two other mates uh called goose and somebody else who were into bmxing and they just ride their bikes around sydney they get to a water park and they have I had two other mates called Goose and somebody else who were into BMXing, and they just ride their bikes around Sydney. They get to a water park, and they have to evade the guys who were chasing them, so they go down the slides because this would be the only way to evade them. Look, I've just set your night out for you, Kelly.

BMX bandits. It's a real film. There's a walkie-talkie heist, and they stop it. Oh, fucking good movie mate okay a skate stopper jim said when you put little bits of concrete in the ground foot braille i don't know yeah yeah that's right well it's fine i've never heard of that term before but no like they do put those things in front of like stairs for like skaters to not like so you can't roll over well roll over it yeah um but for the most part skate

stoppers would be i don't know if you've noticed this but like if you go to like certain i don't know like uh plazas or something like that like you'll see like little things on the corner of the ledges that make it so like you go to san francisco like all down like the barcadero and everything like that you'll see like little starfish they put on the corners of the ledges so like the skaters can't slide or grind over the edges anymore it's the same principle as when they put spikes on the top of things so pigeons can't bother it or so homeless people can't sleep up there exactly really on the top of letters and signs now they put like spikes on benches and stuff like that. So that they put like weird armrests on the bench. So you can't lie down.

Yeah. Another thing I'd say too, is like, it's hard. It's weird to explain this to people, but like I've made my career or a lot of, most of pro skateboarders have been a career off like skating places. You're not allowed to skate that you can get like arrested with.

And so there's a lot of security guards and like police involved. And that's always been like, uh, I don like it's in the olympics now and everything but i don't uh sometimes i have a hard time believing everyone knows that like skateboarders have a rough time making a career but we have to do it we are not allowed to do it right next door was pretty tough did they when i was kid, the big tag that they spray painted around the place was skate or die. Is that still a thing? Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say people just say that all the time,

but it's definitely a phrase that still, like, lives to this day. No, that would be the undercover cop. If the undercover cop came and goes, hey, guys, skate or die, you'd be like, all right, nerk, get it out of here. All right, you go, that's not gnarly. What you're doing is not gnarly. When I was young, skateboarding is not a crime. Skateboarding is not a crime.

Jack just hurt himself sitting in a chair. So we have to assume that his skating career isn't going to be all over the place. He, like, punched himself in the face and punched his mic. My headset fell off. I tried catching it and it hit the mic. It's all right. Are you having a stroke? All right.

Do you know the GoPro camera, right? It used to be called, it was like the skate cam. The original name was they wanted to call it the skate cam because skateboarders wanted to strap it to their chest or whatever so they could film all their stuff. But then the guy who was making GoPro at the last minute went, hang on, you can film everything on it. And so that's why it was changed.

Originally called the skate cam or the surf cam. I've got that story wrong one way or the other. Okay. We'll look it up. I mean, I believe that, that, that camera kind of trip, like that changed the game for like a lot of like how things were documented for sure um so how do when you're uh you competition how do uh competitions work like the scoring this and that like when you're watching it i watch x games i watch the olympics

and i and i used to skate but like how does scoring work what do you get taken away like how do you the point system work and stuff like that it you know jeff was pretty spot on actually exactly of like top and bottom score get taken out and then the average between the middle three i was like wow that was pretty much it uh but there's all sometimes depending on the contest there's different like point scales okay but like what would be a deduct what would you get deducted for i'm obviously not landing a trick but i mean is there anything else that like if you land if you land a trick and it's like sketchy like oh you put your hand on the ground or like you tic-tac away or like you just you know it doesn't look smooth like maybe you'll get some points deducted out of it um but yeah it's like difficulty a trick, what obstacle you did it on,

how smooth it was. It's like all these factors into one. And then like you'll have in Street League, you have the best trick section where it's just like you do one trick and the score's based off that. And then you have runs, which is like a bunch of tricks in a minute. I actually know how this works. If you've ever played the video game, Tony Hawks,

when you do like a kickflip or something like that, a little score will just appear under your board. Should have answered that the first time. And then you just like go down, like your time's running out. So you go, Olly, Olly, Olly, right at the end. To get an extra 30 points, 10 points, 10 points, 10 points. It's funny. I think they tried to develop that at one point but that just skateboarding such a subjective sport that like you can't do

it like that because someone could do like a bunch of kickflips but they're disgusting looking and someone can do it's really beautiful and you're like well that dude did the same trick but that looks so much better you know he did it on something way bigger And you're like, well, that dude did the same trick, but that looks so much better. You know, he did it on something bigger. So you're like, there's, you couldn't really use it that way. Do they ever do like a Davis cup thing where it's like America versus Australia or something like that. And you get into teams. I guess the Olympics is what that is. The Olympics.

You can talk about the Olympics. You were at the Olympics, right? Yeah. I was at the Olympics and I was doing like social media stuff. I was, I was supposed to be one of the judges, but since I work for these brands, someone complained that it'd be like a conflict of interest. So, but that like, I was like, that's all right. I'll do the social media and that was fun, but it was a lot of amazing talent out out there so it was hot as fuck and you

got to do the course right i got to skate the course but that course was was gnarly the course was gnarly uh everything was super huge and like there was some fun stuff to skate for like someone i don't jump down that stuff anymore so but it was a cool experience and it was weird going out there with no one there, like these massive stadiums they built, but not one per, it's just a couple of skaters skating. And then like a couple of people work in the event and that's it.

So it was really kind of like odd, but it was, Oh, Kelly, there's been a virus. Yeah. It had something to do with it. You don't know what's going on would that affect you

in a skate competition because i mean are you aware of the crowd normally like are you feed off the crowd it's good or you just kind of tune it out or well i think people feed off the crowd you know there was this dude niger houston who ended up i think getting like seven i believe but he was so like people were thinking he was just going to destroy everything and get first. And I think no one being there and no, there wasn't this hype that, you know, it's like playing a basketball game. It's like going to a basketball game and then like, no one's there. Yeah.

It's a lot easier to get in your head when it's silent. Yeah. So it was just, it must've been weird for those. I don't think that they've ever had it like that before. So I like those BMX races at the Olympics now, the dirt tracks, where they all just jump everywhere. And Australia's always got like, here's Stindy, 15-year-old girl from Wollongong.

She's going to have a go. I love that race. When I was, they had the BMX little venue right next to the skate one. they have the BMX little venue right next to the skate one and I got to look over at it and people will get so fucked up on that stuff like going face first

into the dirt and then like riding into other people like that to me like legitimately didn't look fun that looked like it was terrible none of it looks fun I don't look at any of the sports and go, oh, they look like they're enjoying themselves.

Yeah, I think they're having fun if you're good at it. Not at an Olympic level. It's stressful, isn't it? It's stressful. Maybe. It's fun doing a gig to a few hundred people who are really into it, but then when you do a gig that's like, oh, this is important, it's for TV or something. It's not as fun.

Or if every time you did a gig, there was a high probability that you were going to fucking break a bone. Wouldn't be as fun. I've had some moments. I got punched in the face. Don't present any awards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You tell that to Chris Rock. Don't fucking safe my

industries. Street League Skateboarding. Who founded that? Not you, right Kelly? That's what Jim said, or did you find it? I think he was talking to Kelly Blackheart, right? Yeah, yeah I founded that Yeah, no, I did not, but Rob Dyrdek did

Rob Dyrdek, the host of Ridiculousness Ridiculousness He was a skateboarder. He's a skateboarder. And he's a jackass. He was a dope skateboarder. Like, I looked up to him as a kid. Like, he rode for really good sponsors, and he did really good tricks.

And he's built this whole empire now. I mean, obviously, Ridiculousness is his whole thing and stuff, too. I like the girl in Ridiculousness. She's one of my crushes. Chantal Westbrook. I like her. Yeah, I like her. She's got a good. She's one of my crushes. She's got a good disposition to her.

She laughs a lot. What is Street League Skateboarding? That's why I get called Chantel West Coast a lot. Really? You sent me comments that say that. I don't remember. I get that same comment towards me a lot on my podcast. I'm like the Chanel West Coast of skateboarding.

I just laugh much. You're like, is that supposed to be weird? Sorry, I'm enjoying myself. I'm just upset because I thought I made Kelly laugh and it was hard. Turns out he's a fucking easy laugh. There you go. Did it again.

Did it again. How easy is that? You'll do it again in a second. Still smiling. I'll do it. I'll do it. Still going. Still going. What is Street League Skateboarding now that Rob Dyrdek founded? So the Street League is a contest series.

They have like five a year, roughly. And they just do these contests all over the world. And it's just street skateboarders getting out and they just create a good platform for these skaters to perform. They're crazy big venues and skaters get to make some money off of it. So it's pretty cool.

And you judge those, right? In your bio. I judge those. Yeah, I do judge those. Sorry, I just had to text my wife to pick up my son from school. I wasn't being rude. Okay, we're going to talk about more questions. No, no, no, okay no no no no no no no no no no no she was always doing it but i had to remind her so i just

remembered in time i wasn't being rude but i had to do that thing what is a fakie trey fakie manny jim said when you go to do a stunt and then you're like what and then and then what when you get the fat kid from modern family to do it there was many yeah okay i didn't forget that that can't be what it is right kelly uh no i've never heard that but uh yeah uh fakie tray manny is like a trick i did it's a fakie 360 flip to fakie manual oh right but what does that mean like describe that to us please uh so it's like i did it on this spot in in west la it's at the west la courthouse and it's a really tall manual pad something that's like a little lower than like your waist and i did that trick on there and um that's kind of like a trick i'm maybe known for in skateboarding

but uh it's just like i thought it's one trick that i never thought would be possible and no one would do it and i ended up doing it i'm not trying to brag i don't know how the fuck i thought it's the one trick that i never thought would be possible and no one would do it and i ended up doing it i'm not trying to brag i don't know how the fuck i did it but i did it you can't brag about this you can't brag about anything yeah yeah go ahead brag i was like it's the happiest thing or like my most proudest all right that's enough what happens in the trick though so i know you described it but a lot of people don't about skateboarding like what so the board is spinning or flip or something yeah you're going fakie is when you go backwards on your skate your regular stance you're going backwards right okay we're going reverse and the board is a 360 flip which is this it's a 360 shove it and a kick flip together

and then i landed on uh going backwards in a manual position fakey manual and then i balanced across this manual pad and then it does sound hard everything's had it hard just the beginning part but yeah i imagine you guys watch a lot of film of yourselves, right? It's like baseball players or anything. You go to the tape and you go, oh, that's where I did it wrong. That's where I did it wrong, right? Yeah, for sure. I mean, you look at it and like, it might not, oh, I don't like the way that looked. I want to go do it again.

Or like, you know, like sometimes, I don't know, you land it sketchy, but you did the trick. You're like, no, I want to do it better. So you kind of look at your footage and kind of like analyze it and every skateboarder is always critic i'm sure like maybe i don't know sometimes you look at your stuff or whatever i don't know like you're like if it goes with everyone they're like man that one i just didn't feel right but everyone else like no that was perfect right that was absolutely perfect you're like no but it didn't feel right to me so yeah it's because people bullshit you don't they i know when i've had a bad gig and people go you were great no it wasn't i know what happened yeah exactly yeah uh what is el toro our last question here uh jim said a very cheap tequila

with a red hat on it there's a little plastic red hat um and skating what is el toro uh it's actually this uh a big set of 20 stairs down in Orange County. And it's kind of like, if you do a trick on the set of stairs, it's like the biggest thing in skateboarding. Kind of like, you're like, you get famous off of doing tricks down El Toro.

20 stairs. People have jumped the whole 20 stairs. So basically replaced the leap of faith. Pretty much. Yeah. Because actually they tried doing the you called it the braille bumps they did that in front of the stairs

and they put a fence there and then like yeah it's like it's just if you look it up some dude even all he did naked this guy Jaws I'll look that up is it illegal to do these stunts on these places like it's not it's public. You're part of the public.

You're riding your, you know? Yeah. It's a, it's definitely not allowed. That's why it's like kind of funny. I, I trip out that like there'll be covers of skateboard on skateboard magazines, skating a spot that you're not allowed to skate. And I'm like, that is direct evidence of you skating like this place and knock on wood but nothing's really ever happened like that yeah what do we fucking go into court did you do a kickflip on these stairs

i'm looking at it right now it's a huge stair holy cow have you jumped have you done it no dude i was never that type of dude sorry i know you want probably cool bigger jumpers on this podcast uh i want a good medium jumper i don't want i don't want any not a small jumper look this isn't a small podcast it's a medium size but he did the fake tree manny so yeah i only skated like i think the biggest stair i skate was like an 11 stair which still is like 20 stairs is ridiculous all right that's not a normal thing like a normal set these days is like yeah 11 or 12 that's still kind of big but a 16 stair there's famous spots at hollywood high school has a really famous spot there's a 12 stair and a 16 stair that like it's kind of the same

thing as otoro you got a trick you want to prove yourself you go to these spots to try to do it there don't you just do the half pipe and just sort of is there the full pipe is that a real thing that was always like a myth that the full pipe but that's only something you can go in once but there isn't like a full no that's like a that's fully a thing there's like drainage ditches and stuff and like uh there's one on the mount baldy um and you i forget it's out uh like in an empire i want to say but like up in the mountains mount baldy yeah it's all good i hear that's what will smith did after the awards see you later thank you everybody come and get me Will

oh hey the doorbell just rang oh my god alright great success dinner party facts I'm so proud of myself that was very good you got so excited

you're like here we go I got this ready when she said Mount Baldy You got so excited. You're like, here we go. I got this ready. When she said Mount Baldy, I didn't listen to the rest. I was fucking, I was already off. There was a whole pipe there. There was a full pipe, yeah. Who cares?

Move on. Kelly, here's a part of our show called Dinner Party facts. We asked our expert, they gave us a fact. Something was here. Interesting. That our audience can use to impress people about this subject. What do you got for us? Um, so in skateboarding,

there's a term called a hubba, which is, means like if you're, there's a set of stairs and there's a ledge going down it gradually with the stairs that like people grind and slide them. It's like having a handrail basically going downstairs but it's a ledge instead and people call it hubba but majority of the people don't know that where it stemmed from was there's a spot in san francisco called the hubba hideout

and people that were smoking crack it was like they called crack hubba and so this ledge was like in this weird place where everyone was just smoking crack and so they call it the hubba hideout and that ledge call was called hubba and so now you'll see terms so like oh on the olympics they'll be like oh yeah this dude or whatever skating the hubba down like whatever backside grind down the hubba you're like you don't know that what you're saying is like the person is backside grinded like some crack On the hubba which means he's grinding on crack Came from

Yeah Again from the crack I would know it was crack though when I had I don't think it came from the crack. It was crack, though, when I had it. I love Habba Habba. Yeah. Oh, God. God, I should get some for me. Stay up for days.

Well, Kelly Hart, thank you for being here. Kelly's Instagram is at Kelly Hart, H-A-R-T. And listen to his podcast, The Nine Club. It's a skateboarding-based podcast, obviously. And with your co-host, I'm sorry, is on the podcast. So it's Chris Roberts is the main host. And Jerron Wilson and my boy, Roger Bagley, he's operating it. So that's Chris Roberts is the main host, uh, uh, and John Wilson and my boy, Roger Bagley.

He's operating it. So that's kind of the main show. So it's called the nine club and it's available. I'm assuming Apple podcast, Stitcher, Spotify everywhere. Yeah. Everywhere.

And you, and YouTube too. We have a YouTube channel. Cool. Um, well, thank you for being here. All right.

Kelly proud of himself still. No, no, no. Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. Thank you so much for being on the podcast. Really appreciate it, mate. That was, uh. He's so proud of himself still. No, no, no. Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. Thank you so much for being

on the podcast. Really appreciate it, mate. That was a fun one. It's an honor to be on this, but I really appreciate you guys having me on. This is really cool. Anytime, brother. Well, next time we do skateboarding. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're ever at a party and someone comes up to you and goes,

I was riding in the hubba, just hand him a crack pipe and say I don't know about that and walk away. Good night, Australia.