I Don't Know About That - Solar Power

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

In this episode, the team discusses solar power with 3-time CEO Circle of Excellence winner and National Director of Field Sales at SkylineSolar Energy, Scott Sowby. Follow Scott on Instagram @ChampagneSowby ! Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tickets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Okay. Christmas, New Year's, Easter, Ramadan. Which one's for Muslims? You might find out, and I don't know about that, with Jim Jefferies. I think New Year's is for everyone. Hello, and welcome to I Don't Know About That with me, Jim Jeffries. I'm here with Jack Hackett, Kelly. I was about to say Osborne.

Yeah, Kelly Osborne. And Forrest. We're coming to you live, live, live from the world famous Hollywood Improv. It's almost Christmas time. Louise Woodencar. Louise Woodencar Louise Woodencar That's my Christmas song of choice I like that song

It's a good song The bit that it kicks in with I want to wish you a Merry Christmas It just proves that English is the best language That's the funnest bit of the song The other bit's just leading up to English Oh yeah, I hadn't thought about it that way And then it's like

Louise told me It it means happy Christmas. And then a merry Christmas. Very confusing. Very confusing. Very confusing. You're not going to learn Spanish through that song. I'll tell you that for nothing. Goddamn liberals.

I say merry Christmas. Oh, we were playing golf the other day with me and Andrew Wontok and our friend Drew, and someone dropped down. You have a person added to the team, right? Yeah. And a very nice guy, worked in pest control, very super nice fellow. So it's just a random guy? Just a random guy.

He was playing. He's quite a good golfer. And at the end, I thought he was a bit guarded. And then at the end, I go, all right, mate, Merry Christmas. And he goes like that i like that i said everything like he was so happy i said he goes that's good that you said that yeah i like that merry christmas you're a good man yeah you're good i'm a merry christmas guy i'll say happy holidays i don't give a fuck i'll just try not to talk to people at all

that's that's a good thing in and out burger the In-N-Out burger bags right now? They have Merry Christmas in every single language written down there, different ones. Damn. Do they have Feliz Navidad? Feliz Navidad is on there. They have Happy Christmas as well. Oh, they have Happy Christmas?

Yeah. So I did a Christmassy thing for my wife yesterday. My wife is British, as we've mentioned. Hello. Yeah, that's her right now. Hello, Taisy. How are you? Good.

Taisy, it's so good to have you on the podcast. It's so good to have Taisy on the podcast. How are you doing, Tais? Hello, my dear husband. Can you believe she just had a baby months ago? Ouch. From the looks of her right now, she hasn't got her figure back. Ouch again.

So my lovely wife, she enjoys the movie Love Actually. Now, I think the movie Love Actually is a horrible film filled with dreadful people doing dreadful. It's not a good film, and I'm a chick flick rom-com expert. But they have Love Actually, the musical. And so I took her along because she loves that musical, loves that movie. And I hated every minute of it.

But if you like that film, the musical is fantastic. They interspersed bits of the movie on a screen, then people acting it, then the thing, and then different things going on. But as with that film, there's too much shit going on. Yeah. You're just going like, what's going on but with them as with that film there's too much shit going on yeah you're just going like what's going on there's a guy going to milwaukee to fuck january jones and fucking the chick from 24 what's going on someone's at a recital or something yeah there are too many characters you can't care about any of them yeah also colin firth is knocking off with a bird who can't speak

english like i'm in love with you. It's like, ask a few questions. Yeah, and the guy from Walking Dead, what's his name? That guy. I don't remember. The main guy in Walking Dead. He's the guy with the little pieces of fucking cardboard with the words on it. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That guy's a piece of shit. Yeah, he's stealing his friend's wife. That's a piece of shit. And then he goes in the end with all the cardboard and he's like, there's you to me or everything and I'm going to love you until you look like this and all this type of stuff. And then Keira Knightley's just like that with her fucking fascinating smile.

I don't know what it is. It's like part horse, part whatever, but she's adorable. Andrew Lincoln, that's his name. And so she runs out in the street with her husband and she's like, it's Carola's. And the husband's like, tell them to fuck off. Like that's such a risky move. It's Carolers.

Because if my wife went to the door and just say it's Carolers, I would have been up with fucking some coins to throw at them. Do you fucking write? I would have been. Carolers come to my house. They're like, we're going to sing a song. I went, hold on. I said, everybody, it's Carolers.

Oh, I was years ago living in Manchester with Steve Hughes and Jason John Whitehead, and this is before we were robbed. But anyway, so I was, we were on drugs because that's what we did, right? And it was Christmas time, and I walked past our front door, and I sort of see the knob just sort of nuttering around a little bit like this. I open up the door, and there's two fucking junkie scallies standing there, right? And just like, hey, how you doing?

All right, all right, like that, right? And I'm so high that I'm like this, hey, guys. Welcome in. What are you doing? And they went, we're carolers, like this. And I went, oh, good. I went, Jason, Steve, I've never had them before, right? This is another Australian thing.

I was overly excited. I went, have we got Christmas carolers? Two sketchy fellas standing in the front doorstep. And I went, well, go on then. And they just sort of looked at each other. We wish you a merry Christmas. And then they locked the door and I was like, they weren't very good.

And then five minutes later, my brain went, hang on a minute. Hey, you guys come back. I want another song. I think they were trying to rob us. Easiest man in the world to rob. The real crime was their singing. Yeah, that's true. Now for clarity, before when you said you were going to throw coins at them,

was that tips or because they were bad? No, because it makes a good dent in their skull. Okay, I just wanted to clear that up. If you had a 50p coin, it's a solid thing. A pound coin, a two-pound coin can knock you out. Are you supposed to give money to carolers? Yeah. I think that's, or figgy pudding.

Yeah, figgy pudding. You definitely should give. It's figgy pudding think that's or figgy pudding yeah figgy pudding figgy pudding they're all figgy pudding up the glendale carolers were doing it for charity yeah they have like a little bucket they come and sing out the front yeah no no one's gonna carol at your house that's festive looking i've got lights out well i've got these lights that are yeah they're called floodlights get off the property they are, yeah, they're colored. They're floodlights. Get off the property. They are, they are, but they're in Christmas colors. Yeah, they're red. Red alert.

It's a green one. And they work all year round. I've got some lights up. I've got some lights up. Did you? You went and did that. I bought a bunch of stuff last year when Bianca was a doll. We actually, I wouldn't, I didn't have a tree or anything and now I have all this stuff.

You want to have a tree up. I haven't got any tree yet, but by the time the podcast I've set up this area in my house for the tree and every year I've got to call Jack to move furniture. It's all ready to go. The space is there. It looks like we've been robbed for Christmas. The Grinch came. It looks like we've been robbed for Christmas. Everything's just empty. The Grinch came, yeah. Hey, that's a nice shirt. Oh, you mentioned me shirt, Jack. Thanks.

What is this, Byron Allen? This is my... It's funny you mentioned that. This is my shirt from Alcoholicost, which I think is my best special, but I think it's on YouTube. Someone's probably making money off it. Not me, but anyway, Alcoholicust, I bought this shirt for nine pounds,

and I remember before the special, I was like, I've got to wear something. Wear something nice. I think I got it like the day before. I bought it at Topshop or something for nine pounds, and I've kept the shirt. It's a bit of history, this shirt. It's been, it's a bit of a history. That's an investment. And I churn it out every now and again. And it's, it's got some stank on it, man.

It's fucking, it's a 2005 item of clothing. Yeah. When you build your library, you can put it in a case in there. Oh, I told you this story about the fucking jacket that Dr. Drew got. Dr. Drew rings me up and he goes, oh, can you donate something for fucking charity? So there was like this leather jacket that I wore in one of my specials. I think I wore he goes, oh, can you donate something for fucking charity?

So there was like this leather jacket that I wore in one of my specials. I think I wore it in I Swear to God or something. And so it had a copy of the DVD where I was wearing it. Plus I signed the inside of the jacket and they had all these other things, Elton John shoes and all that stuff. Anyway, so I became obsessed with how the bids were going on this jacket. You know what I mean? It just wasn't selling at the celebrity auction, the charity auction. Like I knew it wouldn't, but I was like, maybe someone will want to buy that. In the end, it was going for cheaper than what I paid for it. And I bought the fucking thing back. That's for charity.

Yeah, for charity, charity man I got it back I gave money to charity I've still got the jacket I was about to say And it's signed Yeah Oh that's nice It's signed on the inside

I still wear it at gigs Every now and again Yeah People say that So I know it's my jacket It'd be sad If you kind of got rid of it Yeah yeah yeah

No no I'm glad you's taken it back. I'm still got it. I wasn't letting it go for $180. I paid $350 for it. Oh, I don't know what I paid for it. Definitely didn't pay $180. I'll tell you that much.

What have you got for us, Jake? Well, some people have opinions. Some people have the facts. Some people listen to Jim Jefferies On I Don't Know About That Some people think they know shit Whether they do or don't Some people write us emails

And we read them on the show How long is this? I don't know. This is like scenes from an Italian restaurant. Ships up. Brenda and Eddie with the popular steady. The king and the queen and the bride. Now let's all listen to Jack.

Can you hack it, Jack? Wow. Like every segment. Yeah. The Chevy to the levee. Thank you, Michael Rostec, for Comet World theme song two. I don't know. It was a good song.

It's just, you know, maybe do a couple of different versions. It's like when Oasis may be here now and they're all on coke. The songs were a bit long. Maybe another guitar solo. Do, do, do, do, do, solo do do do do uh comment one uh someone kept making archaeopteryx jokes uh someone said an archaeopteryx is an archaeologist who specializes in ancient sex dungeons or a dominatrix who specializes in temples of doom. What do you mean? Like they made that up?

Yep. Like an archaeologist. Yeah. Okay. My friend that was at the Philadelphia show, which by the way, a lot of people came up to us at all the shows this last week. A lot of podcast listeners.

Yeah. He suggested we do archaeopteryx as a merch thing. Oh, that's a good idea. So here's something we should do is plug the gigs we're about to do. Oh, yeah. I've already done Phoenix and... No, you're about to. Alright! Phoenix in San Francisco

this weekend, the 16th and 17th and 15th? Just check it out. I'm at the Celebrity Theatre and I'm at the War something. Phoenix in the 17th, San Francisco, 18 and 19. There we go. Come along to that.

Now, the 18th show in San Francisco is sold out. There's still tickets for the 19th. There's still tickets for Phoenix at the Celebrity Theater. Oh, yeah. And while we're talking about that, if you were at any of the Philadelphia shows and you said you were going to buy tickets to my show, please buy them there. The club will notice if you buy them January 20th,

Philly punchline. Also our Instagram ID cat. You got a gym. Yeah. Yeah. We also have a, a patron's going to start again next year. So,

you know, make sure to should do that early on. We should, we should do that more than chatting about my shirt. Yeah. That was good, though. Led to the jacket story. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Other comments? Archaeopteryx. People said, oh, God, after everything we learned about Jim last week, the... What did we learn about me? How much you can cum. Yeah. We should start calling himself Jim Jizz Jeffries.

What do you do if an elephant comes through the window? Start swimming. What do you do if you come across a tiger? Wipe him clean and say sorry. This is going to be a nice wholesome episode too. I expected

the BDSM episode comments to be a lot more shady, but really people one were commenting on Kelly's hair. They said Kelly's hair is on fire. Oh. It was just purple. The cameras don't light it up. Yeah, it's fine. She's okay. It's gorgeous. And then people said, I find Kelly quite attractive

and also an amazing jacket. So whatever your jacket was wearing was very good. I was wearing a leather jacket. Yeah, it was all good. Everyone's liking leather jackets I guess today. Put that up for auction. But people were mostly. Thanks guys. I like when you guys are nice to me that's very fun yeah people were the biggest discussion in the comment section was about what a burger what oh shut up people are pissed even if you put a picture of what a burger up the bread looks fucking stale it's got fucking ketchup on it i had an in and out the other day before golf it's a delight holy hell it's a bloody good burger it's perfection i fucking love in and out burgers what a burger is fucking slop hit the unsubscribe

button that's what they said they did fuck you're not wanted here with your Whataburger fucking attitude someone said I was stationed down south from my naval

sea school Whataburger was straight fucking garbage comprised almost entirely of stale bread yeah

bread stale that person should subscribe twice rally slash checkers was superior southern burger brand

I can't agree with that checkers oh no don't get Forrest started on checkers I don't have any checkers with superior southern burger brand. I can't agree with that. Don't get Forrest out on checkers. I don't know if I think checkers is alright, but Forrest is terrible. I'm going to settle in for this. You should be happy the rally by our house closed and became a Starbucks.

It sucks. It's the worst fast food in the nation. They're the best fries of them. For sure the best fries. No, it's triple fried fries. They're disgusting. The for sure. The best triple fries. The worst is Burger King. Burger King makes what a burger seem like it's fucking

checkers. Checkers is trash. I hope they all go up in flames. It would still taste better if it actually cooked it. Forrest likes a restaurant called Chess the thinking man's burger

Chinese checkers do you still call it Chinese checkers? what else are you supposed to call it? just checkers? no no it's two different games oh it's different oh okay well you can call it Chinese you just thought it was being racist

yeah I thought the chips were different colours I don't know Yeah, I thought the chips were different colors. Someone said In-N-Out fries are worse than Burger King. Okay. Yes. 1,000%. Their fries were brilliant the other day. You got to get them. You can't.

They don't travel. They don't travel. You got to eat them. Bang. As soon as they come out. Out of the fryer, into the mouth. Agreed. It's because they're not sprayed with the preservatives

that the other companies do. And no, they're all right. They're all right. You've got to eat them right, though. But they're burgers. I'll tell you, there's other companies. I'll tell you who makes a good milkshake. It gets no credit.

Wienerschnitzel. Wienerschnitzel makes a good milkshake. Wienerschnitzel is actually, every time you eat it, you go, that's all right. Now, Forrest got food poisoning recently. I was supposed to come and say it. You're saying all the worst ones for me. I like when Forrest gets food poisoning because he's not quite sure what meal it was.

I know. I had a hot dog. Wienersnitzel. For dessert. Because the thing that you do know about me is that, like, I also eat healthy. I just eat healthy. And I have this theory that if I eat healthy and shitty, it cancels out.

It doesn't work, though. It doesn't work for me out there. So I usually know what it is. Oh, I like they have an Aussie dog there, man. I like Wiener Schnitzel. Yeah, Wiener Schnitzel is good. It's fucking garbage. It's terrible.

Like, it's bad for you. There's not a redeeming thing on the menu. They all look like they're closed always. Is this open or closed? Oh, it's open. It's bad for you. There's not a redeeming thing on the menu. They all look like they're closed always. Is this open? Or closed? It's open. It's like every single branch. I like how they're in a teepee there when it snows in LA so the snow won't

settle on the roof. Someone's asking about Carl's Jr. and Hardee's. And to confirm the question, they're the same. But what do we think about Carl's Jr.? I know it's in a different category. It's the best fast food burger.

Why is it a different category? In-N-Out is a premium type of thing. It doesn't get to you as quick. Burgers are always room temperature. You get in and you're like, did they heat this? Or not? It's a frozen patty, not a fresh patty. But it tastes more like your regular backyard burger.

It's like they've been sitting on the counter for two hours. I'll have a big Carl over a big Mac, and I like a big Mac, but I'll have a big Carl over a big Mac. But Carl's Jr., yes, it is a one-star restaurant. That is the rating that they've given us. What I like at Carl's Jr. is they have the zucchini, fried zucchini. Those are good. That's your healthy eating and crappy eating, canceling each other out.

I eat a lot of healthy food. I just eat a lot of sugar. And milkshakes for the calcium. Nah, you don't eat anything healthy. Ah, that's not true. I live with a vegan. I eat basically healthy at home if she's cooking. I haven't been eating healthy for the last three months because of the baby.

She ain't been cooking. But no, no, I eat. I always eat a salad on the road, and you make fun of me for eating salads. You're like, oh, what side salad do you have? I'm like, yeah, I like salads. You're like, you don't like salads. I enjoy them. I was raised by a hippie.

I was not allowed to eat sugar. I mean, I was raised eating everything healthy. I enjoy them. I was raised by a hippie. I was not allowed to eat sugar. I mean, I was raised eating everything healthy. I enjoy them. He just does this. The deep fried cheese grits and a side salad. I think he said he thinks it'll make him healthier. No, no. You gotta have some fiber so you can shit the bad thing out. Oh, I shit too freely anyway.

Even the bad stuff, it all flies out. You're good to go. Nah, you need the fiber. You'll see when you get older. To summarize, what a burger shit. Check is great. But also, hey, how does this relate to the BDSM? Is this the guy that gets his shit into his mouth after all this time? No, just people were just mostly commenting what a burger and burger chains in the comments.

Really? They saw the urethra tubes. I think people paused the podcast and bitched about Whataburger in the comments and then returned. Alright, rate burgers top to bottom. I'm going to give you five burger chains, right? Don't forget Five Guys. Someone asked about Five Guys too. Five Guys is in a different

league. Five Guys is... Burgers cost three times as much as you're In-N-Out. True. They're very good. They're very good. But In-N-Out still, but I love a Five Guys. They got the mushy bread that wraps around the burger and it's all wrapped in the foil and just feels like a ball of shit that you shove in your mouth. Like it feels like Five Guys feels like the whole thing's cohesive. Like it's just like, it's all. Well, you can put so many toppings

on it too. So you can really make a mess out of it. Yeah. But five guys, you go up and you go, I'll have the cheeseburger, which is a double burger. The other ones they call mini cheeseburgers or something. And then it's like, and I'll have the mushrooms. I'll have this. I'll have that.

And then the burger ranges from 700 calories to 1200 calories. I'm like, I just put mayonnaise on the fucking thing. Do you remember when we, it was, we were recording at your house once, I think. And you asked Jack if he wanted a burger and you'm like, I just put mayonnaise on the fucking thing. Do you remember when we were recording at your house once, I think, and you asked Jack if he wanted a burger and you're like, what do you want on it? I don't care anything. We just put like every topping on it. It was like mustard, barbecue sauce, whatever.

And he just fucking ate it. Didn't say anything about it. We put every topping on there. I was like, that's my fault. I did it specifically. How does everyone eat their In-N-Out? Everyone's got their particular. My mouth. No, but what's your justice?

Oh, anally sometimes. Gets right into your heart. It just falls in. That's you. Cholesterol gets in there quicker. It's nice. I have a three by three whole grilled onions. Wow.

Whole grilled. Do you know what the whole grilled is? Oh yeah. They cook them in the rings. Not the little chopped up ones. They cook them in the rings. There's a bit of bite into the onions. That's the three.

And sometimes I add the banana peppers, but normally not. Yeah. I do double, double whole grilled onions with the banana peppers. Yeah. That's the way to go. I don't like the animal style burger. No. Gordon Ramsay and the other guy, the other food critic, they both like animal style double, double. I'm like, I don't like that. style burger. No. Gordon Ramsay and the other guy, the other food critic,

they both like animal style double-double. I'm like, I don't like that. No, no, no. It's too much sauce. It gets too wet. It's already wet. Sometimes I have the raw onions just for shits and geeks. All right.

What do you guys want to order from? Let's go on. They won't let us get. I feel like the segment's gone off the rails. They won't let us get the, we'll have segment's gone off the rails. They won't let us get the... We'll have to get five guys. What will be here quickest? Find us what will be here quickest. So we'll send Jack down and then we'll eat it while we're

talking to our guests like real good people. Top round. Are we in top round area? Oh. What's the next comment? I'll tell you what's coming. I'm not going to read the entire comment, but I like the intro. It's,

Hey Jack, Kelly, Forrest, Jim, and the Mexican. What the fuck? No, that's alright. Is that racist? If I was on a podcast and they go, and the Australian, I'd be okay. Shake Jack's glasses. It sounds a bit more racist when you say

the Mexican. And Jack said it with a little vitriol. I'm trying more racist when you say the Mexican. And Jack said it with a little vitriol. I'm trying to capture the essence of the comment. Was that from one of your fake accounts? Yeah. Oh, it's from Jack Hackett account too. No, but if you were doing a podcast in Australia and they said, and the yank or the whatever, and the American,

you know what we call you guys in Australia? What? Seppos. Oh, yeah. Seppos. Like sept yeah. Seppos. Like septic tank. Septic tank yank. It's a rhyming slang.

Wait, that's really what it is? Yeah. Oh, God. Septic tank. Let me at them. And they go, how is it over there working with those fucking seppos? Not good. No one likes it.

Okay, you know what Australians call redheaded people? You know this one, Jake. Rangers. Rangers. What's it short for? Orangutan. It's pretty bad. It's a fucking nasty fucking thing to say.

Well, because what, didn't we do a field piece? I don't know if it made it in the thing. It was the, the blackface dolls. I always call them rangers. The blackface dolls or whatever. And they're like,

you're like, you're okay with like the blackface. I go, yes. Like, what about the term ranger? They go, don't you dare say that. Our son's a wrangler or whatever. You're like, whoa, okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, no, the redheaded people.

One day they will rise up against this. They get given a hard time from all cultures. No one's nice to the redheaded people, not even the son. No. Someone defended the poop shelf in toilets. Yeah, the poop shelf. They say it's there to make it easier to inspect your poo for parasites and worms. Yeah.

And then there's a really long paragraph I'm not going to read, but I guess they want to inspect their poo for worms and shit. Are we supposed to be doing that? I don't know. I never inspect my poo for worms. Not every time, but when you suspect there might be a worm. What fast food are we getting? I've never suspected that. What fast food do we get? I've never suspected that.

What fast food are we getting? We'll order that in a minute. Shake Shack, yeah. Shake Shack, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll get a double Shack burger, please. We're not doing the orders right now. We've got to get through comment world here. That's it. Comment world's done. It's over. That's all the comments? Okay, please welcome our guest this week, Scott

Sobey. And now it's time to play Yes, No. Yes, No. time to play. Yes, no. Yes, no. Yes, no. Yes, no. Judging a book by its cover. All right. Judging a book by its cover.

Harmonies are beautiful. Take a look at Scott over there. What do you think? G'day, Scott. I'm trying to read. You've got a poster on your back wall there that says, it says Jim at the end. Are you my stalker?

And you've got some people on a beach that might be your family or something like that, so I won't read too much into it. Okay, Scott, when we got introduced off air, you said to Kelly, you said, hey, Kel, which says to me some familiarity between you and Kelly. Are you friends with Kelly? Yes. Okay.

All right. That's the topic, Kelly. Yeah, the topic's Kelly? Do you know anything about me? No, it's not. I know bits. You have two brothers. If you did know something about Kelly, then you'd know that.

Are you a volleyball coach, man? He only says that I do volleyball. Yeah. I wish. No. Are you an egg farmer? Egg farmer. Is that what they're called?

I didn't listen to that podcast before. No. We're a donor. We're a farmer. Okay. Not a donor. That's a problem. You have this.

What Scott is here to talk about, you recently got involved in. Oh. Oh. That's a problem. You have this. What Scott is here to talk about, you recently got involved in. Oh. Oh. Orgies. Yeah, no, that's not recent. Orgies games. I recently, oh, I had a child. Oh, I've been involved in the COVID.

I've been part of that. Are you a COVID expert? I'm a, yeah, patient zero. Think about your house. Something you got involved in in your house recently. Oh. Changes to your house. Changes to my house?

What did I change about my house? I don't know. Oh, childproofing? That's the real thing. Yeah. I don't know. It's the exterior of your house. Oh, you make gates around pools?

That's what I've done recently. I put a fence around the pool. Imagine that as a topic. I know. Gates around pools. We're running out of stuff. Outside. Oh, Christmas decorations.

You're saving money because of this. Oh, solar panels. My solar panels don't work properly. They only get me like 70%. Is that meant to happen? Oh, solar panels. My solar panels don't work properly. They only get me like 70%. Is that meant to happen? Hold on. So we're here. He's going to hear about solar power in general,

but solar energy. Yeah, Scott Sobey has been in the solar industry for over 10 years. He was the 2016 National Leader of the Year. Is that a three-time CEO Circle of Excellence winner? Oh, that's the end of it. I was just like National leader of the year. Personally sold three plus megawatts of residential solar.

He's currently the national director of field sales at Skyline Solar. Kelly used to do that. I don't know if you knew that. Here's an idea for the solar. I know that. No, I know you used to work in solar. You told me. Here's an idea for the solar.

Do you remember when we had the Casio calculators and they had a little tiny solar panel in the corner? And if you held your calculator out, you could use your calculator? I'm not saying it would power a phone, but why haven't we got a little small panel on the back of our phone so that if you're sitting in a cafe or something, it could just hold the charge up? Why is that not happening?

And don't steal my invention. Yeah, yeah, no reason not to. Yeah, it's here. The technology is here. i'd be surprised if there's not something out there obviously it's not mainstream but yeah great idea all right great that's mine don't do it if i say patented that means i own it right try it back dibs all right okay now ask me the questions first i just got that out that's been on me mind for years all right i uh i'm gonna ask jim some questions about uh solar power and uh you're gonna grade him when we're done with the questions zero through ten uh ten being the best on accuracy kelly's gonna grade him on confidence i'm gonna grade him on etc uh if you score 21 through 30 so lar okay 11 through 20 so doge you don't know what that means like the coin like dogecoin

that's right from the meme 0 through 10 so what i get it i get it i don't know why I emphasize this so much. How are you going so far? What is solar energy? Solar energy is energy that you get from the sun. It involves panels that soak up the sun's ray. Just so you know, there's two different questions. What is solar energy and what is solar power? Just saying now.

First one. Okay. The solar energy is from the sun. The solar power is what goes through your house. Not from the sun? It is all from the sun. It's all sun. All right.

Well, how about this? Let's start with this. What are some of the earliest uses of solar energy? Like some other examples you can think of. Just using energy from the sun. Yeah. They used to have that race across Australia where people got little dinky cars that just had solar panels on the top. Don't even think solar panels. What other things would he have used? This is like BC times.

Oh, okay. So your first one is a sundial. That's using solar energy. Flintstones, yeah. No, it's still used. You see them in national parks and stuff. You're not really getting energy from that. You're using the sun to tell time. Something that you're using the sun to create energy. Have you ever used a magnifying glass? It's to kill ants. Yeah, kill ants. Kill ants is one of those things.

Kill ants, yeah. Or burn the back of your hand for as long as possible without stopping. Yeah. Fire. Start a fire. Yeah, you can start a fire. That's the energy from the sun. Okay.

Also, what else does the sun give us energy for? It gives us life and the crops. Not bad. The plants, yeah. Plants. Life is great. Yeah, life is from the sun. Okay.

Without the sun, we die. So solar power. She's a giver and taker. Talk about solar power. The sun, ever since the sun. Okay, so the sun we die for. So solar power She's a giver and taker. Talk about solar power. The sun, ever since the dawn of time, people have looked up at it majestically and thought, that hurts my eyes. And you think the sun's a woman. I call her

a woman because she's fiery. She's big. Not gender fluid, the sun? No, that's not a man. That wouldn't be a man. It's like Ra, the god fluid the sun no there's not a man that wouldn't be a man this is uh uh rah the god of the sun where did you just pull that from that was rah was in uh um uh in one of the indiana jones he mentions rah and the sun going through yeah rays of the lost ark and yeah, rah. Rah, rah.

What is solar power? Like, how does it work? Okay, so you put these panels on your house or in a car or in a Casio calculator and soon-to-be phone, trademark. And what happens is the panels soak up the sun, right, through going through and they convert that with wires. You just did an old Trump move right there. Just going through and then. Yeah with wires. You just did an old Trump move right there. Just going through and then. Yeah, with wires that attach to a battery.

And then the battery holds the sun. How does it soak it up? Well, you put it out in the sun, man. Okay. Like a sponge. I'll tell you another thing that's solar powered. It's the fluoro bits on your watch. The little dots that go up at nighttime. They're powered by the sun. The sun sees them. Another thing that's solar powered, it's the fluoro bits on your watch,

the little dots that go up at nighttime. They're powered by the sun. The sun sees them. Whatever that paint is on the little dots on your watch, it's from the sun. Glow in the dark. Glow in the dark stuff. Yeah, that's from the sun.

You can also do it from lights, I think, but it's mostly the sun. I don't think that's powered that way, but anyways. It is, yeah. You put it out in the sun. Otherwise, if I leave this watch, it won't do anything. It glows in the dark, but it's just because it's absorbing the sun it's power man um all right uh what does it mean to be renewable like energy oh okay i thought you thought you're talking about girlfriends um uh it's expendable um what does it mean to be renewable like an easy point for you.

Renewable means that it's a renewable thing, that it doesn't cost anything from the thing. Okay, so something like coal isn't renewable because we dig it up and we use it. Gasoline isn't renewable because we have an infinite, not an infinite, finite amount of it to have. You see what I mean? We have infinite sun.

Actually, it's not renewable because in millions of years when the sun explodes we'll be like fuck we wasted all that sun power uh what does pv stand for in the world of solar power uh pv yeah personal vision. Definitely. So, okay. The next question, when were the first photovoltaic cells created? Oh, that's the panels? That's what PV stands for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By who and for what?

Like when were they first created? That's what you have in the panels. I'm going to say a prototype was made by Tesla and he made them. Nikola, you mean actual, you're not talking about Elon Musk, you're talking about Nikola Tesla. Okay. He would have had one, right? It would have just been a shiny rock or something that heated up

that he thought he put a wire on and then it would have had that fucking Frankenstein going off the thing. That's the first one. Okay. Okay. Okay. You don't know when? Oh, 2012. What was it used for?

Nikola Tesla invented this in 2012. Okay. I just wanted to get it out there for the notes. I obviously don't know. We were just in Buffalo at Niagara Falls, and there was a statue of Tesla there. Yeah, that's hydroelectricity, and that's another episode for another day.

Okay. That's water, people. And I asked you how solar cells work. They absorb it. We already went over that, right? Yeah. What can solar power be used for? Well, you can use it to power your house and in turn create electricity

to power your car and then power anything that needs electricity that you can plug into. They can also use them. They use them a lot on satellites up in the sky. The space people use the solar panels a lot to keep that energy renewable and the satellite churning along. Also, small dinky cars. Now, I also think that Tesla, the car brand, put a solar panel on the top.

I'm not saying we charge the whole thing, but, you know, if you're out in the desert or whatever, you could hold your charge a bit more. Do that. Trademarked. Yeah, trademarked. What is thermal power? Thermal is the power that is held by the sun that you use at night. What measurement is used to calculate energy usage

in the home? What? Is that your answer? Watts? Yeah. Okay. What? Where is solar power the most popular? In sunny places, man. Give me a place. You want to go to iceland

where it's fucking like a three-hour days they're not fucking these guys selling it door to door doing no business um it's most popular in in the in i think america and australia and you know affluent countries i think so you got like the size so if you drive out to like palm springs they've got all the wind turbines, and then you go to Vegas, they've got like these fields of solar panels that I assume are powering up quite a large amount of houses or industrial things or something like that. I'd say so the solar panels in an industrial thing,

the desert is where you put the fields of them because you've got the space and you've, of course, got the sun. I don't remember seeing many solar panels when I was chugging around Canada, you know. So I'm going to say desertly hot places, dry, hot places. Desertly hot places. Okay. Yeah.

Here's one you should get. What does it mean to be off-grid? It means, okay, because what happens is, so with my solar panels panels you've still got the batteries on the side of your house yeah talk about this because i was gonna the next question is solar batteries what's up with those yeah i don't know i thought that would work better i thought my whole bill was gonna be out i don't know if i have to get mine redone or something like that because i only seem to be getting 70 of my house i got three fucking big ass batteries

i have three batteries three batteries down the side of my house, right? I've got two. And then you look at the app and you can see like the grid, the this, the that. I have Tesla, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what does it mean to be off grid though?

It means that you are just getting power from the sun. You are not getting it from any other source whatsoever. You are just, you're off the grid. Okay. So on batteries, how do the batteries work what are they what's their purpose the batteries store up through the day and so that at night time you get electricity at night because it works off the battery and so you can just work straight off the sun during the day and then the excess can be stored into the batteries and then

the batteries work at night or let's say the batteries work very well if you have something like a power outage and everyone else in the street is like, what the fuck? And you're like, ha ha. And you're there toasting marshmallows in your backyard off a fire, which doesn't use electricity anyway. It sounds like you don't currently have this problem, but let's say you had solar at your home and then you, there's, you were producing more energy, know uh than you're using what

happens well this never happened to me you sell it back to the electricity company and they give you a little bit of a kickback okay oh this is was that the question solar and their home but they use more energy than the they produce okay that's similar we'll talk well no so you he answered the opposite question which is also a good question. I asked the opposite question. But this would refer to yours. So you've got panels on your home, but they don't cover all of your usage. So what happens when the panels don't cover all of your usage?

I kick back to the electricity company. What are limitations for solar? Well, the sun has to be out, like has to exist. If the sun exists, if the sun explodes, solar panels are very limited. We'll die too, so. Yeah, but I've invested a lot of money in these solar panels. So that's the first thing I'd be angry about. How long do you reckon we live after the sun died?

Not long. A couple of days? Probably pretty cold. And then, I mean, besides crops and things but also also the gravitational pull we just start yeah i think we'd be fucked yeah i think we'd be fucked right away when uh when did when did solar become viable for residential use like when did that start happening and why did it happen okay so a lot of people use solar powers to power that the first use of solar was to heat up swimming pools, right? And people had just those rectangle things with sort of a circly dome.

It looked like a half-rolled out sleeping bag was the initial ones, right? But they were like a double sleeping bag, right? And they always put them sort of on Australian roofs. And I remember seeing them in the 80s. So I'm going to say 1984. Okay. Who won a Nobel and why was it that they became viable for residential use? Like was there a catalyst?

It would have been to stop burning off fossil fuels. It would have been something to do with the ozone layer or some shit. What about solar panels? When do you think they became viable for residential? As opposed to, you were talking about thermal solar. Yeah, right, right solar to heat the swimming pool, so what about the panels for the electricity? When did those...

1980. 1998. Okay, last question. Who won a Nobel Prize in 1921 for their research on photovoltaic cells? Elon Musk. What year was it? 1921. Oh, okay. Nikola Tesla.

Any other names you want to throw out there for solar power? No. Is it the only two that matter? It's the only two that matter, man. Okay. Hey, Scott. How did Jim do on his knowledge of solar power? Zero through ten. Ten's the best. Yeah. Yeah. I listen to obviously a lot of your episodes. This is about

as good as I've done. I don't know how much you guys need me here, but I'd give it a solid seven for episodes. This is about as good as I've done. I don't know how much you guys need me here, but I'd give it a solid seven for sure. I did learn that Nikola Tesla, 2012, invented the photovoltaic cell. Incredible. Incredible stuff.

It wasn't here. It's like when they bring out Beatles albums and they find something in a vault. We found this recording of the Beatles at the BBC and you're like how many? Every year they find a different Beatles album. We found this unseen footage to make this documentary. That's what happened with Nikola Tesla.

They keep on flipping through his book and like a lot of his books like, I'm so sad. Edison gets all the credit. I get nothing. And here's how solar panel works. Taking their time getting through tesla's book diary or whatever you're talking about but also in the beatles thing when they do find the music they don't say hey this song came out in 2018 when we found it in a closet

they say when it came out well that's not completely true when they brought out their anthology and they and they did a free as a bird. It was a new recording. It's with assistance from a small recording. They found of John Lennon and then the other Beatles got together. So Tesla, he was the first person to push the domino confidence. I don't know about that.

Yeah. I'll give you a seven on confidence as well. I feel like you kind of understand how it all works, but a lot of times when you define things, you use the word to define it. So we can't really be too sure. Et cetera. I'm going to give you 30. Oh yeah.

So yeah, 44. You can sell the 14 points back to Jack. All right. I'll check out my, I'll check out my solar's doing right now. Tell you how it's going. Here doing right now this will be good this will be great home usage 3.2.5 kilowatts kilowatts

that's what I'm going to do kilowatts that's what I generated how much of your home is being run on solar right now it's not showing me this is good I've got to change. Yeah, we'll cut this.

Oh, I got 18 kilowatts to home. Get in. I got 18 kilowatts to home, 3.8 kilowatts to Powerwall, and I got zero to grid. My energy destination is 82% and 18 to Powerwall. Does that sound right? Yeah. Okay.

So I don't have to ring Tesla up and complain? Yeah, that sounds right? Yeah. Okay. So I don't have to ring Tesla up and complain. Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. So it's mostly going into your house and there's access going into the battery. It sounds like 18% of the battery, 82% of the house and you're not sending anything back to the grid.

Nothing back to the grid. Probably stuff going on in your house right now. Kids are home, whatever. Yeah. Air conditioning. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. My wife sucks up the solar. She does. She fucking takes it for granted, that sun. Have a talk with her. Alright, Scott, so what is what is what's the difference between solar energy and solar power?

Like, you know, Jim says solar energy is energy you get from the sun. He says solar power is what goes through your house. I mean, that's pretty. Yeah, yeah. Solar energy is energy you get from the sun. He says solar power is what goes through your house. I mean, that's pretty. Yeah, yeah. Solar energy is just the harnessing of that sun energy, right? We're harnessing a fraction of one millionth of 1% right now. So, yeah, we're turning that solar power, solar energy into solar power. It's just the harnessing of it.

Here's a stupid question. I'm known for these, Scott. Here's a stupid question. I'm known for these, Scott. Here's a stupid question. If we can do this with heat, can we do, as far as you might know as well, you're a scientist, can we do it with cold? Can cold be strapped into making energy? Can we have snow-powered things?

Like if something freezes, can that be something? Or is it only heat that can make power? I don't know the answer to that. I'm going to assume we can't because someone should get into that. Or am I the first person to even think of this? I'm the domino pusher right now. Cold energy. I think, doesn't energy need to like burn essential? Like, I think it needs to be heated to be converted into energy. Okay, so they're trying to invent wave energy right where they put things in the in the ocean to make it way back they already

have that and then when yeah and then they like make it more like out in the public i think and then they and then wind things wind turbines the wind pushes it and that makes the thing and that gives the energy why can't the cold do something i don't know trademark it well because i don't think that they're like kelly was saying i don't think. Trademark it. I don't think that there's any energy there. You're talking about a snowpack? Are you just talking about cold weather? Cold.

You keep going... Like a cryotherapy chamber? Make something that gets cold and shivers and strap something to it. They do actually say that with cryotherapy, it can actually help you burn calories because of how cold you are and you shiver to keep yourself warmer, but you would have to have whatever the source was to shiver.

Like you can power like a small light bulb on a bicycle or something, right? On an exercise bike and you ride along and you can power the thing. Is there any gymnasiums where they're just like, oh, the treadmills are all being used, turn off, switch the switch, the treadmill power? I don't know. Is there? Yeah.

Yeah. Mostly the bikes. The stationary bikes, they use those and it translates and there's gyms that say, hey, we're 100% run on our staff or 50% or whatever. You thought I was saying something stupid. Wow. that say, hey, we're 100% right on our staff or 50% or whatever. It's really exciting. Wow. I was in San Francisco one time in Golden

Gate Park and there was some concert going on and there was all these stationary bikes set up and they were powered. People had to be on those bikes to make the electricity for the stage to work. So, there you go. Hippies, am I right? Where am I? Oh, earliest uses of solar energy jim said killing ants burn the back of your hand gives us life raw sundial sundial raw

the sundial is a good one man but there's no energy there that's just shadow it's making a product work it's just like there's there's no there's no battery in this watch it's making a product work. There's no battery in this watch. It's just perpetual. It is moved back and forth. That's the energy is you moving your arm. The energy is the sun that makes the shadow. There's still energy involved. I don't think so.

No, it's just making a shadow. It's not creating the time. It's not moving. It's not moving i guess there was something i read that one of the earliest uses was um when people had shields they would use it for the sun to then reflect back into their like enemy's eyes so i guess if you can use that as a solar energy use then we could use sundown that's how they light they light the Olympic torches off the sun with a greasy ball. I'm just saying like a

greasy ball, not saying because it's in Greece. They put like olive oil into a dish and then the sun hits it. And I'm not saying the people, I'm saying that guys, shut up. But I've never even heard of that. That wouldn't even be across my mind. Like the greasy Greeks.

Grecians, Grecian formulas. Um, where were we? Uh, let's, let's talk about how solar, how solar power actually works.

Yeah. Let's talk about how it works. Jim says it just gets absorbed. Yeah. How does, how does, how does it work? You put a panel on your house and solar energy. How does that work?

How does, let's talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. There's these cells inside their solar cells that are made up of these wafers specifically silicon and and in in layman's terms right uh photons or particles of light knock electrons free from atoms so there's electrons rolling around the atoms the photons hit that the electrons come free and then of course they get excited and move around. They create energy. They create heat.

They create electricity. So that's, yeah, it's really not much more complicated than that. Oh, you're a photon guy. I use, I use protons.

Proton, photon. Kelly, what are you? Well, for this purpose, I'm a photon guy. Are they the same thing?

What? Photons and protons? No. They're different letters. Yeah. Should make energy out of protons, man. They should make, yeah. How do you get 12.5 gigawatts to run a DeLorean?

Like, could you do that through solar power? No. Okay. All right. Gigawatts. We'll never get that flux capacitor up and running i know yeah yeah in in his interest that he sold three plus megawatts like gigawatts yeah tesla tesla traveled forward in time to 2012 so he he figured it out yeah that is that is a good point excellent point now so when so they've created the energy on the roof

in the panel then how does it power the house yeah Yeah. So it's created in what's called DC current, direct current, right? Our houses use AC alternating current. So it goes down through what's called an inverter. Sometimes inverters are real small on the back of each panel. Sometimes they're a little bit larger, about the size of a carry-on suitcase. Jim, if you have one of those, it's probably just sitting right out by your battery somewhere. It runs through the inverter, and the inverter changes it from DC current to AC current. It feeds right into your house.

Yep. Well, see, every now and again I get problems with it. I've got to ring up the company, and I go, they hold me on the phone, and I go out to the wall, and then there's a couple of little boxes with big sort of switches that look like I'm from Ghostbusters, and I'm let the ghost back out and they go pull that one like that why can't you just have a nice simple switch what's with the big fucking levers and the gunk why is that is that just for theatrics yeah partially yeah those are typically on off switches like

if there's something bad going on right there those big they probably have a red handle and you pull it down that's everything yeah yeah part of that's just for fire code and part of that just for show yeah i feel like i feel like i go and then in my backyard frankenstein would go up and like you know like so i feel like psychology wise you'd see that and you go, that will do something extreme. Whereas maybe a switch, somebody might accidentally press it or something like, you know, you're less likely to pull a lever. You go to your fuse box and it's just a whole lot of pissy little switches. Those are still switches.

I have a I have the water heater in my house. That's the tankless, you know, and it went it. It was had to be reset when I first got it, and the switch was not. It was just a little button, and it didn't mentally make sense to me that it was resetting. Oh, yeah, your hot water tanks, little tiny ones, that's involving flames and shit. No good.

Jim, I asked him, does it mean to be renewable? It doesn't cost anything. Coal isn't renewable because you use it and it's gone actually the sun is not renewable because when it explodes eventually we're all going to be like fuck we used too much sun I mean we used too much sun I'm not wrong we're sucking the sun dry

yeah are we fucked is the sun going to explode tomorrow you got to stop taking it for granted yeah I don't even know when the sun is supposed to explode, actually. I think it just fizzles out. The god of Ra said to Mercius, I don't know, Mercius I'm made of.

The god of Mercius? No, the god of Ra said to Mercius. They always say the sun, the Holy Ghost, whatever, and the sun comes from the actual sun, and that's because people used to worship the sun, the Holy Ghost, whatever, and the Son comes from the actual Son, and that's because people used to worship the Son because the Son gave them their crops and all that. You mean the Father, Son, the Holy Spirit you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Son goes back to the Son. I thought the Son was supposed to be Jesus. Yeah, but it's all in religion. Man, religion's too confusing. I never came on Jesus for a bit. You want to talk about this, Scott? My whole life, he died for our sins. Why am I in trouble all the time?

Like I thought this guy fucking sorted us out. So he died for our sins and then you still want to pull me up every time I make a mistake? Fuck off. What a pointless activity was Jesus dying on a cross. What a fucking pointless nothing bit of history that was. This is just a quick search. It says the sun is about 4.6 billion years old,

and they estimate we have another 10. It doesn't matter. Everyone just turned off. Another 10 billion years we have. 10 billion years? Oh, my God. Your solar panels are good. With modern medicine, man, we might see this happen.

Oh, I thought you meant we'd be able to keep the sun alive longer. I'd love that because that's the whole thing when you look at stars, man, we might see this happen. Oh, I thought you meant we'd be able to keep the sun alive longer. I'd love it because that's the whole thing when you look at stars, right? And some of them, they're already blown up, but you're still seeing the light from the stars and all that stuff. I reckon it would be good to be there when the sun just blows up. You'd all just be talking and then like, what's that? Oh, it's gone dark. Just like if a light bulb went out.

It'd be fantastic. Did we talk about renewable? No. Okay. Oh about renewable? No. Okay. Oh, hey, Scott. Anything that can be replenished is renewable. So, yeah, we take those fossil fuels out of the earth, right? There's not new ones coming back at least any time soon.

So what other renewable we got? We got wind, water, sun. Is there anything we're missing? Water's not necessarily renewable. There's a water cycle. Are you talking about the currents yeah yeah yeah you know hydro electricity is probably not completely renewed but it's a good form of you know it fucking fuels vegas all right that's pretty impressive nuclear can be in there depending on kind of how you look at it but

yeah nuclear's in there yeah these are alternatives right and then i mean hydro or hydrogen or something like that. I thought there was some work, but I'm not sure. Oh, isn't there some sort of algae they're growing or something like that? I think there's an algae they're growing. Is there something we can do with cow shit or something like that? Or that seems to cause environmental problems. The methane gas?

Yeah, can we harness cow shit? I don't know if that's harnessed or not, but we're talking about solar power today. I'll tell you farts, man. You go up to a flame, you fart on the fucking thing. That's renewable energy. If only we can figure out how to harness it. Harness farts. I've started showing myself.

We have a little gas fireplace in the living room, and I go up and fart, and it goes a little bit like that. My son thinks, fucking hell, Dad, you really showed me something good here. He's like, I thought you were cool before, but you really nailed this one, dad. Well, we, like 20, 30 episodes ago, we talked about selling our farts in a jar.

So now you could sell those as renewable energy. I love lighting a fart. I haven't done it in years. Isn't that just wind energy? Yeah, it's wind energy. More gas. The fart is a gas and there's a natural gas. So, yeah, you can get enough of them.

You can grill some burgers with your farts. If you stay behind a cow and you just hold the lighter for long enough and it farts, would that be like a flame? Would it be a good one? I think it would be pretty bad, yeah. Do all animals light their farts light, or is that just a cow and human thing? I don't think cows light their farts. No, no, no, no. We'd have to help them. They're stupid animals.

You'd have to hold their tail up. Do all animals, are their farts lightable? I don't know. You said you're a scientist. I thought that would be the first day. Well, all farts are some sort of gas, whether it's like a methane from cows or yeah, I think it'll all be alertable. Yeah, sure. Yes, I'm going to go yes. So you pulled a fish out of the water and it went I don't think fish is smart.

What about fish farts, right? Fish farts, right? Fish farts? I don't know. I don't know if a fish farts because I don't know fish farts. I was like, where am I? They shit, right? They shit. Do fish farts because I don't know fish fart actually. I was like, where am I? They shit, right? They shit. Do fish fart.

Fish shit, yeah. Well, the answer depends on your definition of a fart. This is the first thing that came up. Because that's what I was going to think. They use gas and air for buoyancy. They have I don't know. I think if you shit your fart

so it says most fish do use air to inflate and deflate their bladder they have like a that's why when you pull a fish up if you've been fishing really quick and it's like stomach comes out through its mouth that's like this this bladder that's filled up with too much air because you pulled it up from the bottom too fast so i guess if they're expelling the air through their mouth and stuff it could be mistaken for a fart is what they're saying but i don't know if it'd be a fart out of their ass. What about a crustacean? Would that be different? Like a lobster fart?

Yeah, yeah, lobster's fart. Yeah, sure. Oh, yeah, they fart all the time. All right. What does PV stand for? Jim said personal vision. And then the next question was about photovoltaic cells. So maybe we can talk about that.

Photovoltaic. Photovoltaic. Photovoltaic. Never. Never going to say that. Photo. Photo. Photo.

We're going back to photons. Do you know what? Photo. Do you know what photo? Like that's a- Photosynthesis. For the Latin of- Yeah.

Light. Photopia. Yeah. Photopia, yeah. Great movie. I think photo is light, right? Yes. Fallopian tubes.

No, different words. I've taken photos of them before. Scott, let's talk about photovoltaic cells do you know when uh they were first created by who and for what and was it tesla that's what jim said in 2012 do you reckon when turtles fart that they hotbox themselves like that's a good question right yeah that's the only reason they stick their head out oh god dutch oven yeah i fucking had eggs today a good question, right? Yeah. That's the only reason they stick their head out. Oh, God. Dutch oven? Yeah, I fucking had eggs today.

This is a lot more interesting than solar, I'll tell you that. I mean, these are like the eternal questions, like, who killed JFK? Like, who do fishers fart? We'll get a fart expert on there. JFK farted, no doubt. JFK farted. My gosh. Yeah, Come on. We'll get a fart expert on that. No doubt. Okay. Funny. Gosh.

Yeah. 1954. The TV style is born. It created in the United States by a couple of guys at Bell Laboratories. So Bell Laboratories became part of AT&T. Then actually became part of T-Mobile and kind of has dissolved into a handful of companies, but for all intents and purposes, it's still around. So 1954 Bell Laboratories

gets credit for the invention of the PV cell. And it was originally created to make phones? Yeah, the silicon wafers were kind of the original part of it. And then from there, they started harnessing the energy and people a lot smarter than me.

Obviously not on Jim's level, but yeah, they figured out the rest. So your trademark's done, Jim. They already got it for phones. They haven't put it on the phones. Yeah. Yeah, no, you still need to talk to somebody about that. These were for home phones.

Yeah, that's true. It's a different thing, man. What can solar power be used for? He said power your house, car, power anything that's true. It's a different thing, man. What can solar power be used for? He said power your house, car, power anything that needs electricity. Anything. Swimming pools. Swimming pools were the first thing. Yeah, satellites, man.

You can see them. They've got the panels all over them. Yeah, no. I didn't say it like a question. You just went like this. Satellites? You gave me one of those looks. No, it's not what I did at all.

You don't even know. Play it back to us. Is there anything solar power can't be used for scott uh yeah there's really three main uses number one jim hit on i love how you explained and it looks like a half unrolled sleeping bag and now they look they're typically black and what they do is they just have veins that water pumps through and by the time it goes up and down these veins they're black on the roof and it comes out the other end the water's heated that goes into the pool so that's one type of thermal solar the other kind jim you also mentioned right when you're driving between la and vegas right you see those big solar farms and there's those there's mirrors right there's there's hundreds of thousands of mirrors that all move

throughout the day they reflect the sun onto those big towers that you see. And inside of those, water is heated. It's actually a special fluid, but water is heated. Same thing, it turns a turbine, creates electricity, and that electricity feeds mostly to Nevada and then some goes back over to California. That's another kind of thermal solar that produces steam. The same thing happens in a wind turbine, right? The wind blows blows the things turn

that's just turning a turbine it's heating water creating steam and whatnot and then of course the third is pv solar photovoltaic solar which is what most people um think of when you talk about solar so those are kind of the three main types yeah right on now with any type of energy that's especially going against the the mining companies and all type of stuff there's especially going against the mining companies and all that type of stuff, there's always pushback from fuckwits who just go, it's going to ruin our world. I saw Tucker Carlson going on about, and these people had solar and the solar didn't work. That's why we need coal, people.

He did that. I don't know where he went, like Jerry Seinfeld at the end. Was that in regards to the Texas thing? Yeah yeah and he was saying because the people had solar they were all fucked and they needed to have fossil fuels and all that type of stuff um what is if any the pushback from people against solar let's just give you that's an interesting point jim so two things happen one is it's an electronic it's. That's an interesting point, Jim. So two things happen. One is it's an electronic. It's a South Sea electronic.

You know when you leave your phone, if you put it in the freezer, it gets really cold. It becomes really laggy, right? And the screen isn't right. I've never put it in the freezer. I don't know what you're talking about. You know when you're swimming in the Arctic and you've got your phone on you

and it's no good? No, no one knows what you're talking about, Scott. No, but I know what you're talking about, Scott, because I've had a digital camera and it's been really cold. And then the camera shuts down. Yeah. But then if your phone gets too hot, it tells you now. It goes, well, you're too hot. You're too hot.

Get out of the sun. So too hot or too cold, it's tough, right? It's tough on these electronics. Solar in the same house. That's 110 in Arizona. Your solar doesn't work as well, right? It's too on these electronics, solar in the same house, that's 110 in Arizona. Your solar doesn't work as well, right? It's too cold, right? It doesn't work as well.

So there's this kind of happy medium. In Texas, when that issue happened, it was too cold, right? Everything froze. And so the batteries and the grid and the solar stopped working. It was too close. And so that was just kind of them

counting on that. Ultimately, right? Big oil is just like big pharma. There's so many trillions of dollars involved. There's so many people with vested interest in it that it's just hard to, you know. All the science, right, points to big pharma in many ways. Ultimately, right, maybe hurting as many people as helping.

Same thing here, right? Big oil is on its way out, but there's so much money and people and time invested into it that it's just always uphill. One of the things with the grids is a lot of utility companies have really old grids that need significant upkeep or restructuring or whatever, and they're not putting the money into that because if they put the money into that, then they have to raise their rates. And if you're competing with solar right now, then you don't want your rates to go up substantially. So it's the Texas grid was fucking shit.

But to say that, but it got too cold and then the solar stopped working. So can they use solar in cold countries, snowy places? Is that, was that just, I don't, I'm not understanding.

So, so do they freeze over in other countries or you just don't use solar in those other countries or you just put it in differently? Yeah, there's certainly a function of, right, you need enough sun and you need a specific climate for it to work optimally. Yeah, in a lot of those other countries, power from the grid is already just so cheap, it doesn't make sense to buy solar. You're going to be paying more for the solar. So, yeah, in a lot of those other countries, power from the grid is already just so cheap. It doesn't make sense to buy solar. You're going to be paying more for the solar. So, yeah. Yeah.

But the idea is like that it's so black and white is the problem where you're like, you use coal or use solar or something like that. The reality is a lot of millions and millions and billions of people could use solar energy around the world in place of fossil fuels and in places where maybe it's colder as a more extreme weather condition doesn't mean they can't use it all the time but it could be used maybe with natural gas or maybe fossil fuels or something like that but if we if if the amount of people that actually could use solar power then we'd reduce greenhouse emissions and climate change would be,

you know, would be more of a thing of the past and stuff. But it's, so this whole bullshit with Tucker Carlson is just like, yeah. If we covered 4% of the world's deserts in solar farms, we could power the entire world. Yeah. We should do that.

We should do that. Yeah. The, the, in California now you have to have solar panels, correct me if I'm wrong, on your house if you build a new home as of a couple of years ago. That's by law, you have to have them. Okay, that's just a nice point I'm making.

That's good for you to know that, yeah. But yeah, they brought that law in California because we're a bunch of hippie assholes over here in California. It's happening other places now too, right, Scott? Yeah, yeah, Colorado's next. There's three or four states in line. More hippies. But Colorado has lots of snow. I'm confused already. Colorado has lots of snow.

Is Colorado a good place to do it? Great place to do it, right? 300 days of sun per year. Yeah, Colorado's like number nine or 10. The thing specifically with the conservative outlets, there's two. One is there's a federal tax credit for solar, Jim, right? 26% of the price comes as a tax credit, right? A lot of times, Republican conservatives are against those subsidies, but those same people,

right? I mean, those same level of subsidies, if not more, go to big oil. So it's hypocritical in some ways. But yeah, there is a lot of federal, if not more, go to big oil. So it's hypocritical in some ways. But yeah, there is a lot of federal meddling in solar for better or worse. Also with snow, like the panels are slick. So snow tends to not stick to those anyway. So as long as it's still like New Jersey has tons of solar because, you know, you're still getting the sun, even if it's even if it's snowing out and it won't stick to the panel.

How close are we to having solar cars? Because that was the thing. As I said, in the 80s and 90s in Australia, they had this race across the desert, and they were basically people who were in tubes with wheels on the side, and they put solar panels over, and the thing was going like 15 miles an hour. Oh, you mean because they do power. Some Teslas were solar-powered charging stations.

You mean on top of the car. On top of the car. How close are we to that because i feel like that's the next step again you know what i mean like or like even trucks like cover the whole fucking back carriage solar solar solar and then you know yeah planes i don't think we're close to no planes well you think we would be because the planes are closer to the sun so they'd be getting more solar. Fair point. You don't really want to run out of energy on a plane though.

No, no, no. You only fly them during the day. Oh, okay. All right. Great. Yeah. I'd have to read through some of this stuff, but it looks like there might be cars coming. Solar car.

Yeah. I don't know if you know anything about that, Scott. Yeah. There hasn't been any big gains in um efficiency and wattage of panels right we'll make these incremental games every few years right there's no magic bullet right where solar panels are just all of a sudden going to be 50 or 100 percent more efficient that all the technology right and improvements is in batteries um technology not in panels themselves so we're a long ways from a functionable, reasonably

priced car. You guys remember those cars, Fiskars? It's kind of a real fancy, kind of look like a Maserati almost. They have a panel on the roof and then some of the Priuses do, but that's just kind of to help out a little bit on the interior and whatnot. But yeah, there's no magic bullet

coming down the road with the panels and stuff. And do these solar panels to the touch when they're heating up are they hot to the touch not so much no i mean it's a black surface typically right so because of that they're hot but but not because they're electronics no you know they don't get hot like that all right so jim said uh measurement used to calculate energy in the homes he said watt and then he changed it to kilowatt. Because you said kilowatt. Right? No, because I read on my phone. Sorry.

And then the off the grid. Well, it's a kilowatt hour. Oh, yeah. Kilowatt hour. Got that wrong. Minus a point. Not even my next special. Your system would be measured in kilowatts.

So you might have like a six kilowatt system but the individual measurements of electricity or kilowatt hours so okay so how many kilowatts does it take to run a home that's what i never and then maybe that we could speak to that jim was asking the questions about why his whole home isn't he's got three batteries and you've got all these you have panels you have the tiles the roof tiles i have the roof tiles the tesla roof tiles yeah and you've got three batteries and you've got all these panels. You have panels, you have the tiles, the roof tiles. I have the roof tiles, the Tesla roof tiles. Yeah, and you've got three batteries and that's still not enough to run us all home.

Is that? Yeah. Why didn't they just give me four batteries? Why did they shortchange me? It's not the batteries, it's the production, the system. So my guess is your whole roof isn't covered and I'm just certain parts of your roof probably south. Yeah, so they probably maxed out

the relevant roof surfaces, right? South is by far the best for solar, right? Sun moves in the southern sky. East and west are okay. It's a wash. And the north-facing, right, you don't do that, right? Because they don't produce anything. So you likely just ran out of relevant roof space to get you to 100%.

Now, the batteries help, right? And you can decide when you send power back to the grid and whatnot. And you can do all that on your app um but ultimately either they undersized it accidentally but probably unlikely or you just ran out of relevant roof socks dude i don't have enough roof man my my house is shaped like a dunce's hat so i think it's very big at the base and then it gets thinner and thinner and thinner and And it's a roof's about, it's about a 20 P. It's simply like a hat. I've been to your house.

I'm joking. Yeah. I mean, that's what I thought it was. I like the fact that you were like, I've been to your house. I've seen it. You let me come over once.

Yeah. You're lying. That is, I wonder if that has anything to do with the new law for new home building, because that, especially in California, especially with newer homes too the roofs are not desirable for solar panels because they're broken up and like older homes generally have like this you know so you could fill those with solar like i put 70 panels on my friend's parents house it was an 11.1 kilowatt system prank ever and they they were only

covering about 60 of their energy usage we just totally ran out of space stupid joke that's why i didn't acknowledge him do we know where solar power is the most popular jim said in sunny places yeah partially so there's two things that play i'd be wrong for us so the most popular place for solar in the united States is Hawaii per capita. And it's not even close. And Hawaii is basically a rainforest, right? So it's popular in two places.

One where the existing cost of power from the utility is really, really high. So Hawaii has the highest in the nation. It doesn't matter that it's basically a canopy rainforest, right? California, right? Second or third highest, right? Obviously, solar is really popular there. So that's basically a canopy rainforest, right? California, right? Second or third highest, right? Obviously, solar is really popular there. So that's the first part. Wherever prices are higher, there's going to be more solar.

Places like Nevada and Arizona are really popular in solar. But power prices from the utility are really, really popular. So sunny places, people that get a lot of sun, not necessarily hot. That's why Colorado Falls in there are also popular. Power prices from the utility being high, solar's popular. A lot of sunny days, solar's popular. Other places, right? Diminishing returns.

And then the states that have the tax... Because there are certain states that have different tax incentives or credits from the utility or whatever, so those come into play. Originally, how they used to get power to Hawaii was a really long extension cord. Did you guys know that? No, it was one of those

hula dances on the dashboard of your car. That creates energy. Really long extension cord. Yeah, that's another thing solar power can do. Those little tiny things you buy from Japan that rock from side to side. We used to have those in our office, Luis, remember? Yep.

My dad's a big fan of them. He's got about 15 of the fuckers. So the batteries, we talked about those a little bit, but maybe we can talk, what's up with those? Yeah. Did they cost a lot? Is that like the most like, what? How much does a battery cost? How about that?

Did I have costs? Did you just have about that? Because I have costs in there. I didn't ask you before. It says cost. I meant to ask Jim how much a battery costs. Yeah. Battery I reckon You bought them. Yeah, but I bought them with the tiles. I got to take the tile prize off. 15 grand a battery.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. 10 to 15 kind of depending there you go that's right points you already got 44 you sold points back to jack thank you for those i'm looking forward to the dinner party fact on this one so that so that's the so the thing is is solar is expensive for just not everyone can switch to it. I think that's the problem because the batteries are expensive and the panels and so forth will come down in price at some point. Yeah, the big gains are being made in batteries, right? There's Moore's Law that really talks about chips, computer chips, that every year they become half the price they get twice as powerful.

That's what we're seeing with batteries now, right? Three years ago, a Tesla was 70 grand. Two years ago, it was 50 grand. Now you can get one for 35 grand, right, they become half the price. They get twice as powerful. That's what we're seeing with batteries now, right? Three years ago, a Tesla was $70,000. Two years ago, it was $50,000. Now you can get one for $35,000, right? It's going to keep going down, down, down because there's big gains in technology are being made on the battery side, not on the actual panel side there. So batteries will become increasingly popular. Like Kelly said, the utilities are being circumvented. They're becoming obsolete in many ways.

Like Kelly said, the utilities are being circumvented. They're becoming obsolete in many ways. And so, yes, solar adoption industry grows 50% a year, mostly because now because of batteries. And there are ways to go solar without paying for it. You can go solar with no money up front. You're just purchasing the power from the solar or leasing the equipment or whatever it is. So there are options.

There's a homeless guy that lives near me and he's got all these solar panels set up. I don't know what they're attached to. Oh, cool. Good for him. No, are options. There's a homeless guy that lives near me and he's got all these solar panels set up. I don't know what they're attached to, but no, I mean, it's a ton of money where you got them from. Maybe Jim's roof. I'm not getting any power. When did it become popular and viable for residential use? And then why? Jim said the first use was the heat swing pulls in 84. 84. That's so random.

Yeah, there's not a certain date when they became viable. July 16, 1984. July 16. Alright. Yeah, exactly. It was summer. When they hit the pool.

80s, 90s. Yeah, interestingly, Kelly started, she's an old solar dog 2009 i mean these are the old days of solar we judge solar in in dog years because that's how fast the industry changes but yeah props to kelly and by the way you guys might not know this but kelly was as good as they come at selling at flying in solar as we used to call it. She was top-notch. Yeah. I know, hard to believe, but there you go. Do you want her back?

Kelly, there's always a job waiting for you in solar. I've actually gotten recruited back from my old companies multiple times, but he lives in Utah now, so I'm not going there. You don't want to go there. The last 15 years, that's when, Kelly, there's these financing vehicles like leases and power

purchase agreements and then these long-term 25-year loans that are accessible to anybody. 90% of people that go solar do it for no money down, so they're not like Jim and probably paying cash for the system. They're just swapping bills and then maybe saving a little bit of money. So, yeah, really the last 15 years is

when it's taken off and maybe even more recent, the last 10 years. Okay, and I think this question we answered, right? If someone in solar has a home but they use more energy than the panels produce, what happens? Electric company buys it back. So this question, who won a Nobel Prize in 1921 for the research on photovoltaic

cells? Jim said Nikola Tesla. Elon Musk. Oh, you should have went with your? Jim said Nikola Tesla. Elon Musk. Oh, you should have went with your first answer, Jim. Yeah, it was Elon Musk. Yeah, this whole time. 1912? No, 1921. It's Einstein.

Oh, right. Einstein. Einstein. He's one of those guys that he's always dicking about, Einstein. He's got that poster in with his tongue sticking out. He makes a nuclear bomb and fucking kills us all. He's painting the neck, Einstein. He's dead.

E equals MC squared. Fucking do your hair, mate. Wow, I didn't know you hated Einstein so much. I'm a very black and white type of guy. Hot dates. He's a freaking black and white type of guy. Hot date. He's a freaking hack. All right, then. Oh, sorry.

I had a hiccup. Wow. Okay. So this is a part of our show called Dinner Party Facts. We ask our guests to give us some sort of obscure, interesting fact on this subject that our listeners can use at home to impress people. Do you have anything for us, Scott?

Yeah. Yeah. Don't make it about Einstein. Just anything for us, Scott? Yeah, yeah. Don't make it about Einstein, just whatever you do. Yeah, so yeah, I'm having an audible here because this was actually about Einstein. I didn't do it. Let's talk about Einstein. I was kidding. Well, no, it isn't.

So in a single hour, in one hour, the amount of power from the sun that strikes the earth in one hour is more than the entire world consumes in a year. So one hour of the sun creates is, is giving off enough power to power the whole world for a year. And like you guys have said, Kelly, especially right. It's just about harnessing that. So the more we can harness it,

the more we can get away from, from non-renewable sources. Don't tell that to Tucker Carlson. All right. Well, thanks for to Tucker Carlson. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, thanks for being on the podcast, Scott. We learned a lot about solar panels, solar power, and wind turbines,

and photos. Photons. Photons. Photovoltaic cells. Photovoltaic cells. Kilowatts. Kilowatts. Einstein.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you're ever at a party and someone says to you hey I reckon it would take two hours of the world's sun to power the whole thing

go what whole thing wait a second what whole thing I'm walking away from this person this person's clearly drunk they're not making any sense

yeah alright you should get in a taxi buddy goodnight Australia