I Don't Know About That - Star Wars w/ Dan Zehr

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

Jim does know a lot about Star Wars, but not nearly as much as our expert Dan Zehr (@coffeewthkenobi). Subscribe to Dan's podcast Coffee With Kenobi and visit his website www.coffeewithkenobi.com Sponsored by: Omaha Steaks - Preroll https://omahasteaks.com/IDK Chime - Mid 1 https://chime.com/IDK Mint Mobile - Mid 2 https://mintmobile.com/IDK Honey - Mid 3 https://honey.com/IDK Our merch store is now live! Go to idontknowaboutthat.com for shirts, hoodies, mugs, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/IDKAT for ad free episodes, bonus episodes, and more exclusive perks! Tiers start at just $2! Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tickets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Probably. Wow. Okay, you're going to tip off a bridge? The holidays have been tough for me. I did Thanksgiving. We had everyone here. We had them all over the house. We had Forrest Cain.

Yeah. Jason John Whitehead Amos was there Jason John Whitehead's uncle's coming he came he came I like the plan I like the plan all me thanks before people get there what I'll say the thanks

I'm always thankful of everyone at the table but I'm going to go I'm thankful of all these people here. You're all very special to me, except for Jason's uncle. I just met you. You seem very nice. I remember one year that your son thanked you for having a roof over your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My son went like this. I'd like to thank everyone here at the table. I'd like to thank Dad for giving me a roof over my head. You must have said that to him in some bit of anger. I don't even discipline the kid, man. I don't know where he gets it from. He's always like, thanks for letting me live here, dad.

Thanks so much. I mean, he's a sweet kid. He is a sweet kid. It's so funny. Okay, well, how was your Thanksgiving that you didn't have? I mean, he's a sweet kid. Yeah, he's a sweet kid. It's just so funny. Yeah, okay. Well, how was your Thanksgiving that you didn't have? Jason's uncle actually came at my house, too. Oh, no.

That guy comes everywhere. They don't even have Thanksgiving. They're Canadians. What did you do for Thanksgiving, Jack? I went to my friend Haley's house and I made a Popeye's turkey He makes a Popeye's turkey every year How did you make it? You just heat it up

Well, you buy it and then it's frozen You have to defrost it Oh, you do have to cook it I thought you just heat it up Is it covered in Popeye's crispiness? It's like a blackened chicken type of thing But obviously it's turkey Why Popeye's?

Because it's kind of funny Is it good? Oh, it's great Yeah, Popeye it's kind of funny is it good oh it's great yeah popeyes is good it's like cajun season it's cajun season and yeah oh we got good turkey yeah all right i've never rated popeyes yeah yeah i mean another turkey a lot of people like it a lot of people lose the amos loves it it's really location to location amos likes it yeah i did not yeah i don't rate the Popeyes. Too crispy. I like it. I like the Chick-fil-A.

Anything that hurts minorities is the food that I normally... No, I like the Chick-fil-A. I'm a big fan of the Chick-fil-A. Their breakfast now is so good. They've got a muffin with a chicken in it. I had it. It's good? After you recommended it, I went and got it.

We know. Better than those biscuits. The biscuits are too much. Australians don't understand American biscuits. They're just large scones that you think... No, they're moister than a scone. A sandwich worthy. I like the scones.

Oh, God. They're moister than a scone. They're a dreadful, mealy fucking thing to eat. I could live here forever. I'll never understand it. I still don't get thanksgiving i've said this every year i don't understand too close to christmas it feels like the same meal it is the same meal as what you eat how far away from christmas should

it be well i know your theory on thanksgiving that it's the gateway to christmas you've said this to me it's such a funny i love that forrest goes wait did i say that yeah you go that's brilliant first said to me once he goes oh no no it's uh the best it's the best what you know you just eat and watch football he goes no no no it's the gateway to christmas when you're a kid you have like as soon as thanksgiving's over you start rubbing your hands together like and christmas is coming that's true the school year speeds up. After Thanksgiving, you're not really getting hard assignments and stuff like that. It's like four o'clock at work, and you're getting off at five. You're like, all right, we're done. We're done with the school year.

So you kind of get that. Plus, my birthday is December 1st. So it was even that extra thing where it's like, I got Thanksgiving. So now I got my birthday, and there's Christmas. And I'm probably done this year. So it was extra special for me where I had that extra thing going. So December was big for you.

So Thanksgiving was the start of him giving up. Yeah, I was done. Thanksgiving, I'm like, year's over. I'm fucking out. My son's birthday's near Halloween, and he does that. He's like, we're going, Halloween, done my birthday, time to go.

Yeah, he's talking out early. He's talking out at 3 o'clock. That is what he talks like, too. He's got a part-time job. He's got a couple of mates who still believe in Santa, and he's just like, Dad, how long can I not say anything? I go, you're not allowed to say anything. It's up to their parents.

What grade is he in? He's fourth, right? He's only been a year without Santa, right? He's second year. Oh, yeah. But it is funny when you're a kid. Once you don't believe in Santa anymore, you act very smuggy

about it like oh yeah I've known for three months fucking idiots this is idiots he's definitely got a bit of that going on

he goes yeah I just nod along when they're talking it's a good life lesson it's nice that he doesn't say it because there are kids that are just dickheads

I had a kid who ruined it for me but I was too stupid at the time I go that's just becauseheads. I had a kid who ruined it for me but I was too stupid at the time to go, that's just because you don't believe. That's exactly what I would imagine Jack would say. And then they were like,

but Jack, we're finishing high school this year. It's time. Shut up. You gotta believe. Spring break, I'm going to Santa's village. He wrote me a letter letter he said we could use

workers like you why did jack start talking like that i don't know i i have to tell the story about like they used to get the girl the the little kids in school when we were in like year five please tell that you've told if it please tell yeah so i was about 12 or 13 right they used to get the little kids to write letters to santa and then like as a sweatshop assignment for us, like 12, 13-year-olds, we used to have to write back as Santa to the kids so they had the classrooms working as a factory line, right? And so we get the letter

and also if anyone's seen my handwriting now. That's what I was thinking. I was like, Santa sucks in. Yeah, like Santa must have carpal tunnel or something. He was on his sleigh when he was writing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This just seems like a bumpy ride of a letter. Anyway, so I'm sitting there and then bloody some kid in kindergarten

has asked for some Sega Master System or something like that. And I'm, well there, Timmy, you've been a good boy. And I'm writing it down. And the girl I'm sitting next to, her name's Philippa. I won't say her second name. And she turns to me and she goes, this is really wrong, you know. These letters should be getting to Santa. And we were almost 13.

And I just looked at her like, oh, no. She had you in the first half. Jim Deffries.com for all your upcoming tour dates. You got Asia. You got England. You're in Asia right now. I mean, Asia right now. You're in South Korea right now.

Are you? Oh, because we just talked about Thanksgiving. That's a different one. No. Okay. You're in Asia. Yeah, that's all right. No, but we've had Thanksgiving.

Okay. I thought this one was good people know this is definitely like I thought this wasn't going to be the beginning of the other people know that we record these things early we recorded this one just after Thanksgiving

I like that it's so much later yeah yeah we're recording a bunch while Jim's in Asia because you see I'm in Asia I'm there too yeah so and also

and also don't be distracted by the last two podcasts, me wearing the same outfit. Me too. Don't worry about it. Kelly. I'm just still celebrating Australia winning the World Cup. We're in Asia.

How are we doing this? Buddy, they're the ones who invent all the technology that makes this happen. We're amazing. Give them what they want to our. Give them what they want to you give them what they want to so you can find all the dates on there um i think we're currently in somewhere i think you're oh well it's still it's still a moist tour in asia i think you're in seoul right now oh it's the

moist tour in asia yeah look let's be honest it's the it's the tour of new material that's hasn't been shown yet yeah what hasn't been aired? We should probably announce, too, that after... The show is called What Have You Not Seen? After next week, we're going to be taking some time off of the podcast. A couple weeks. Yeah. I think we'll have two more episodes come out after this. Yeah, we have two more episodes.

Yeah, we'll have two more episodes. But we can start easing people into it. Yeah, we should ease people into this. So basically, throughout January, we will not be podcasting. So we'll come back in February. For a couple of reasons. For a couple of reasons, but we'll announce them later. We're not going to announce them now?

Are we allowed to? I don't think so. Yeah, we'll announce later when it's official. Jim's in Australia for a month shooting the game show. One is he's gone. I'm filming the 1% Club. Yeah, Jim will be taping his game show in Australia I'll do a little practice for you right now

So Jack, if you win the money what are you going to do with it? I'll probably buy my mom a car I would have bought a new tits I've got a lot of practice Jim might be coming home early We might be doing the podcast after all don't worry about this warning

I'll give it another go so Kelly why did you come on the show for I'll probably come on your tits I don't think we're even doing the podcast one more shot JJ's uncle is the host hey Forrest we're even doing the podcast even. One more shot. One more shot. Wait, that's JJ's uncle is the host?

Hey, Forrest. Forrest. Wait, ask him his name. He doesn't know. You don't know his name yet. Yeah, I'll just do a simple one. So what's your name? What do you do?

I'm Forrest Shaw. I'm an electrician. Electricity runs, Forrest runs. runs kills himself on stage and then I go you know I've always had a gun on me it's gonna go great okay well 1% of you are gonna get blood splatter on you

small gun Well, anyway, stay tuned. 1% of you are going to get blood splatter on you. Small gun. Anyway, so we'll be taking some time off in January. Details to follow, but have no fear. Yes, we will be back. So re-listen to the podcast. So Jack, have you traveled far to get here? Yes. We're from Atlanta, Georgia.

It's just in Australia. Really far. I'm a sand groper. Why didn't you go on the American version when the currency rate's a lot better? These are great questions. I don't have the answer for you. Idiot. Did you fly here?

Yes. Your arms are tied. I got this, idiot. Did you fly here? Yes. Your arms are tied. I got this, man. Yeah. You're going to kill it. Natural. Channel 7, look out. We are the Channel 7 Stables of Stars. There's some executive that's there going, what have we done?

Is that what they call this, the Stable of Stars? That's what they always do in channels when they have all the different game show hosts and stuff. And when you walk into a foyer and they have all the pictures up behind the desk, that's the stable of stars. I don't think I'm behind the desk worthy yet. I'll have to get a few seasons in.

No, we have to see your legs. By the water fountain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not bad. People got to get water. That's true. You know have to see your legs. By the water fountain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not bad. People gotta get water. That's true. You know what I'm saying? Anyways, buy some tickets for the shows. IDCAP podcast. Come and see us in Asia

if you're listening in Asia. Yeah, yeah. Come on out to Asia. We're there now. We're in Japan watching the World Cup final tomorrow. No, in Singapore is the final. Singapore. We've got to watch it in Singapore. Yeah, I believe so.

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judging a book by its cover hello dan and we're talking about Star Wars. I can see Jabba the Hutt. I can see all the figures over there. It's a Star Wars-y type room. Tell me we're talking about Star Wars. We're actually going to talk about Doritos. I love Doritos. Love chips.

Yes, we are. I realize that. Hello, everybody. Thanks for having me on this amazing program. Yes, my background certainly gives realize that. Hello, everybody. Thanks for having me on this amazing program. Yes, my background certainly gives it away, I would say. You've guessed Star Wars a couple of times, though, because we've had people with Star Wars, but not that much Star Wars. This is a lot of Star Wars. A lot of Star Wars. Let me introduce Dan. Dan Zare is one of the most recognized and respected personalities in Star Wars fandom.

Dan hosts the popular podcast Coffee with Kenobi. Zare is a longtime contributor to StarWars.com and is the co-author of three Star Wars books, The Star Wars Book, The Star Wars Character Encyclopedia, and Star Wars, I Am Your Father, Lessons for Parents, Protectors, and Mentors. He is also a prominent and trusted influencer for all things Star Wars.

You can find him on Instagram, at Coffee underscore with underscore Kenobi, on Twitter, at Coffee with Kenobi,, on Twitter at Coffee with Kenobi, on Facebook at Coffee with Kenobi. And then you can go to coffeewithkenobi.com, which is the website. And I think you can find the links to everything on there, including there's all sorts of cool merch and things like that on there. And then also on Twitter at Mr. Zare. Thanks for being here, Dan. Hey, thank you.

Appreciate that. Sorry you had to go through that entire little resume there there no great you're on your thanks for being on our show we're glad to promote things like that how did you become one of the most recognized and respected personalities in star wars fandom oh gosh well i don't you know i don't know i just know that i've been unabashedly myself and i've always loved Star Wars. I'm an educator for my day job. So a couple of years into my career as a high school English teacher, I was teaching a class, I believe on Hamlet. And I remember hearing the students talk a certain way and I thought this would be a great way to analyze something like Star Wars, which I love. And when I was commuting for a couple of years, I would listen to Star Wars podcasts

love. And when I was commuting for a couple of years, I would listen to Star Wars podcasts and I always loved them. And I always thought, what a great medium this is to not only have a voice, but to give other people a voice as well. So eventually I talked to one of my friends and I said, let's start a podcast. And as many different things as we tried to figure out what it might be about, we always came back to star wars and then he said hey how about the name coffee with kenobi and because i'm an english teacher i love that alliterative nature so we started the show i created a social media account on something called twitter are we allowed to say that anymore and um it just kind of grew from there and then eventually i caught the attention of lucasfilm and i liked that i used uh star wars in my classroom to promote other things, and that has led me literally all over the world to a lot of amazing things,

books and things like that. I've been to several Hollywood premieres. I've got to have some legitimate FaceTime with Harrison Ford, George Lucas, Carrie Fisher, a lot of people. I've been very, very fortunate. I heard that Kenobi's just been let back onto Twitter. He was taken off for a while because he kept on calling him sand people. Yeah, well, you heard correctly, fortunately.

They're Tusken Raiders. You can't call them sand people. That generation. Holy hell. That's not good. So I'm going to ask Jim some questions about Star Wars. Now, Jim is a huge Star Wars fan. I like it all except for I didn't really watch the Clone War cartoons

is the only thing that I feel I'm a bit weak on. But you know a lot about it. Now, there are some questions in here that I think you're going to know. I did ask some – I found a place that has very hard questions. I don't think you'll know that. I just wanted to throw in here anyway just to do it. So I'll ask – What if Dan doesn't know them?

I think Dan will know them. I sent a link to the thing I got the questions for just in case Dan didn't know. I haven't looked at them yet, though. I like to kind of be improvised. Some of these are ridiculous that I found, but I think most of them you'll know at the very least. And then so at the end of that,

you're going to grade him 0 through 10, 10 being the best on his accuracy of his knowledge, and then Kelly's going to grade him on his confidence. Okay. So he's going to answer all the questions. We'll take notes and then we'll come back and answer them all correctly and see how he does. Well, as long as his check clears, I think his grade will be just fine. Kelly's going to grade him on confidence.

I'm going to grade him on et cetera. We'll add those scores together. If you're 21 through 30, you're Luke Skywalker. And then 11 through 20, Billy Cloudjogger. Zero through 10, Morris Mudskipper. All right. First question. Okay. I'm going to start easy. 0 through 10 Morris Mudskipper. All right. First question. Okay.

I'm going to start easy. Who created Star Wars? George Lucas. Okay. What year did the first Star Wars movie come out? 1977. Okay. What is the Skywalker Saga?

The Skywalker Saga is the story of the family of Skywalkers The saga is the story of the family of Skywalkers, starting with really the inception of Anakin Skywalker, his mother being artificially inseminated in a way similar to the Mary of the Bible by the midichlorians to make Anakin. And then his family gene goes through to be the most powerful Jedi's that they ever really saw Kelly usually types your answers in there she doesn't even know how to type that word

no well so I've only ever seen the original Star Wars and I saw like bits and pieces of it when I was in middle school and I saw it for the first time all the way through recently because my nephews are really into Star Wars so so much of this I'm going to be like

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about but I'll do my best with the notes What is George Lucas' origin story with regards to the creation of Star Wars and the Skywalker saga? That's a meaty question What was his origin story? So his first movie was a movie called THX which was

when you hear the sound, he invented that sound that you have in the cinema, right? And that was a sort of a student-y type film that was a sort of apocalyptic, sort of sci-fi type of in the future type of a movie. And then he wanted to make another sort of sci-fi type of film, but then he had to make American Graffiti, which had Harrison Ford in it.

It was the first time he worked with Harrison Ford and it had Ron Howard in it. And then afterwards he got, he liked all the old Flash Gordon type of serials and they used to start with a rolling of words coming up the screen, that type of stuff. So it was him watching old sci-fi things.

I believe he lived in, it was somewhere watching old sci-fi things. I believe he lived in, it was somewhere up in Northern California near Stockton or something like that. Okay. Here's an easy one and then I'm going to give you a hard one. Who is Chewbacca? Chewbacca is a Wookiee who's best friends and maybe lovers with Han Solo. Okay.

Here's our one. And he was originated because George Lucas used to drive around with a large dog on his front seat, and he used to think that looked funny, an image to have a co-pilot being a big furry animal. Here's our one. Four of the following characters were not hanging out at Jabba's palace when Luke comes to rescue his friends

in the third Star Wars movie, Return of the Jedi. Okay. Here's the list. Four of these were not there erica atark bg-j38 boba fett do alan goel loge nella calit should i do this or you're not gonna well boba fett was there okay uh how about calit malakali no i don't know sell it marry these this is too deep diving for me. Okay. Name all the movies in the Star Wars film and who directed them.

Now I'm fucked. I always forget the bloody case. So George Lucas did the original episode four, and then the guy who did Empire Strikes Back. What's the name of that movie? A New Hope. Okay. Am I allowed to chime in and help him, or do I just have to smile and look pretty?

Well, usually what we do is he answers them all, and then we'll go back, and then you tell us the answers. All right. All right. I believe Lucas did episodes one, two, and three. He went back on the helm and did those ones. And then he did four originally. And then second one was the old guy with the white beard. What second one?

Empire Strikes Back. Okay. Krushner, Krushner, something like that. Something like that. Yeah, he did it. I don't know who did the Return of the Jedi. I think Return of the Jedi was the same guy who did Empire Strikes Back. The directory man?

Yeah. And then the last, J.J. Abrams did one and three of the new trilogy. The Force Awakens. Yeah, the other one. And the one in the middle. I hated all three of those films. Who did the one in the middle? I hated them.

Who did the one in the middle? I don't mind the prequels. I'm a fan of the prequels. Who did the one in the middle? I can't stand it. The other director. I don't know. Andquels. I'm a fan of the prequels. Who did the one in the middle? I can't stand it. The other director in the middle. I don't know. And you don't know who wrote any of them?

Abraham's was involved. Chris Columbus was involved as well. Yeah, we'll go back to that. Okay. What is the force? The force is what binds us, what brings us together, what gives us life. Yes.

Over the course of time, the Force has been bastardised by the last three fucking films. What the Force does is it makes you, you can talk to people and give them mind tricks, Jedi mind tricks. You can lift moderately sized things up, and if you're Yoda, you can lift a whole X-wing up out of a swamp, right, and that meant to blow your mind. But evidently, the Force in the new films,

you can jump from character to character and you can rip planes in half with your fist. I'm not happy about it. Even in the Obi-Wan Kenobi trilogy, he's all underneath a whole lot of rocks and then the rocks all go out. Too much Force. They bastardized the Force.

All right. What important material would you need to make a lightsaber? You need those crystals. Oh, fuck. I know this. They mine them. Fuck. I know this.

I thought you would get this one. Yeah, I know it as well. The crystals. Get me back. It's also that crystal is responsible for what is shooting out of the death star to make that big thing as well so they're all easy one who was yoda yoda was a powerful powerful jedi that came from the degabar system okay okay here's a hard one they're tired in the degab system. There is only one little person who appears in all three original trilogy.

Warwick Davis. No, he appears in all three original trilogy Star Wars films as different races. What's his name and what three characters does he portray? Warwick Davis, he says. Well, Warwick Davis played Wicket. This guy plays three different races in all of the first three. Yeah, but Warwick Davis is also in The Phantom Menace for a very small moment, and then he's also.

The three original trilogy. Three original. One little. Oh, Kenny Baker, and he plays R2-D2. And what other two? He plays three different races. Kenny Baker plays three different. Okay, so I'll say that he plays a Jawa.

I have the answer in there. This one was one of the hard ones. He plays a Jawa, a droid, and an Ewok. How many languages is C-3PO fluent in? It's in the thousands. I'm responsible for... If I watch one of the films, fuck fuck i know all this shit uh i know you know five five thousand five thousand i think what is the name of the death star's original commander ah fuck i'm out of fucking sorts here i thought you were gonna crush these yeah lieutenant the

guy they they they they fucking cgi'd him for rogue one um i know you know a lot i had to make these harder because yeah i've forgotten his name he's the guy who's in a lot of horror films and stuff what is the name of the creature that lives in the trash compactor on the original death star called oh i don't know i've never known that i didn't know either how old is yoda when he dies he's around 500 years old okay here's one you should get who is luke and leah's mom um natalie portman oh yeah yeah black swan yeah yeah uh queen amidala who who killed han solo um i don't acknowledge these films but it was ben you say the writer it was i i it was yeah it was ben solid i have a story about this so i when the new movies

were coming out i was super excited like everybody else was the same i was excited about the prequels and and i put a tweet out like this like i put a tweet out like this just over at jj abraham's house what a fucking movie i'm so happy that he showed it to me. I can't believe that Han Solo dies. Like I released that like five days before the premiere came out. I didn't know. I hadn't seen the fucking film. Anyway, so he dies. So then I got so much hate mail like, fuck you,

you ruined the movie for me. And I'm like, you think fucking J.J. Abrams has me over to watch fucking Star Wars and then I like you think fucking jay james has me over to watch fucking star wars and then i'm allowed to fucking say that hard soledad and there's no repercussions anyway there was one cunt and he was so unhappy with me about that that he went and saw every movie like the morning it came out and then he'd send me an email and the email would start with hey jim i'm a big fan so you open it up and then it would be a transcript of everything that happened something similar happened to me i don't i didn't watch game of thrones but i was dealing with a fruit fly situation in my apartment and so then the day

of the red wedding episode i had put up a facebook status that said i can't believe they're finally all dead and i got so many comments being like fuck you like what the fuck and i was like i don't know what you're talking about, but I was getting yelled at for Game of Thrones. I still don't know what happened there. I thought you were going to get a lot more of these. So this is- I know, but I'm-

No, but this next one's so hard, I'm not even going to ask you. He's very, very close on a lot of them. I know my brother Scott is sitting at home now angry because that's all he did was watch Star Wars, but- This next one is ridiculously hard. Do you want me to ask it to you? Sure.

Assuming blaster technology gets better over time, rank these fighters by weapons power from weakest to strongest. Okay, sure. A-wing, B-wing, E-wing, V-wing, X-wing, Y-wing, Z-95 headhunter, tie fighter. Z-95 headhunter, tie fighter. Weakest to strongest. I believe a tie fighter isn't as strong,

just in the way they blow up than an X-wing. I think an X-wing has... I think an X-wing and a tie fighter would have very similar firepower yeah um obviously the guns that are shooting off the you know the millennium falcon go bang bang bang and they blow up and then they get shot and they just sort of rock around in their ship so you got to assume that they've got a you got you got an a a b and e a v they've got to have a stronger eye on canon than the other people and then i reckon the cannons i don't even know what an a wing is and then i reckon the cannons that are even stronger than that would be the ones in hoth where they were loading them up and then i think your strongest one is your death star

okay well that i don't think that's i don't know if i got the technical names. What is the rule of two? Oh, rule of two is a Padawan and a master. There should always be. Okay. What is the name of Boba Fett's ship? Oh, the Fettmobile. Who is Chancellor Palpatine's Sithith alter ego um uh he's the emperor okay but but then then it's uh darth sidious okay who is lando calrissian lando calrissian is a scoundrel

and uh he lives in the cloud city and for the most part he's a businessman he doesn't want to get tied up in uh empire type of shit imperial rubbish but when push comes to shove yeah lando calrissian steps up and he does the right thing he also lost the millennium falcon in a poker game he's good friends with harm but he doesn't trust him either the amount of eskimo brother shit that those two have done is off the hook. Okay. Here's an easy one. What planet does Luke Skywalker grow up on?

Um, Tatooine. Here's a hard one. If the Death Star was a globe. Yeah. What cardinal direction do the X-Wings fly in the trench run for a new hope? And where is the exhaust port? So like if it was a globe,

where on the globe would the exhaust port be located that they shoot the you know missile down and then which way would they be going down that trench they're going imagine this is a glow yeah they're going they're going around the circumference like that in the trench clockwise yeah and the port is uh because they fly through the port is is underneath the bullet dome bit. It's on the top? No, it's underneath in the middle. So it'd be the equator. Yeah.

Okay. What is Chewbacca's dad's name? Oh, you only see him once in the Christmas special. Yeah. And he's wearing some VR porn thing because he's watching like some other female Wookiee or something like that. And I can't remember his name.

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That's N-E-X-T-E-V-O dot com slash podcast. Promo code IDK. So, Chewbacca's dad's name? I've forgotten his name. Okay. But I can draw you a picture. Okay. Last question.

I'll name the character and you tell me what color is their lightsaber okay luke skywalker blue darth vader red yoda uh because you only see it in the in the prequels i believe he has a green oh no no no no he's a green obi-wan kenobi obi-wan kenobi is a blue mace window purple okay all right dan how did jim do on his knowledge of star wars uh i know he knows a lot more than that but in the knowledge of the questions i asked him zero through ten ten being the best uh how do you do i would give him an eight and a half i would give him an eight and a half i think he did very very well i mean a lot of them he was right on the nose on and i gave him the benefit of the doubt the ones that are really impossible look i've written an entire star's character encyclopedia book right to name all these obscure characters that you probably never even heard of and i didn't know a couple

yeah like the one with in the the job is question i knew i recognized majority of the names but i couldn't tell you that so i think that was a pretty challenging almost unanswerable question i couldn't even pronounce them so it's not even fair i'm just like reading i'm like yeah i i just i found some website and i'm sorry jim all right how are you doing confidence kelly um i i felt like you tripped yourself up a little bit on confidence because... Yeah, you wanted to kill it. There were things like on the tip of your tongue. So I'm going to give you a seven. What is the name of the fucking Christmas?

Are we going to give them the answers? Yeah, we're going to do that right now. Okay, good. I'll give you a five, Jim. We're going to make you Luke Skywalker anyways because I know you love Star Wars. Yeah. So we're going to go through the answers now. Who created Star Wars?

It was George Lucas. That is correct, right, Dan? Absolutely. And then the first year... I think they should give it back to him. Yeah. Look, I was anti-George for a bit. I was a bit like...

I didn't mind the prequels. I didn't like when he kept on fucking with the... making it better each time. When he took the no away from Darth Vader, where he went... McClunky. When they gave him a no. Sorry, when they gave him a no right when luke skywalker's being throwing and then he throws the emperor down the down the shaft right there was a few things i didn't like it's just like i know

that he was a guy he's a perfectionist who was just like you'd watch it and then he'd get two in his head and think i could fix this i could fix that he should have just left it alone a little bit um but now after the the what i believe to be abortions of of movies these last three holy hell i was so angry at all three you didn't like seven i didn't mind seven because it was just the new hope done again right and harrison was in it harrison was great and harrison was great in it but there was missed opportunities there was that i did do you know that i did the last acting scene with kerry fisher before she went off to film star wars so so she was on set and she was like i have to lose weight and i said why kerry and she goes i gotta play a fucking princess next week. She was in Jim's sitcom. She was in my sitcom for an episode.

Yeah, yeah. How cool is that? Yeah, she was the best, man. She was so much fun. She had loads of Star Wars questions. Because the whole episode was about me getting me too'd by a female executive who kept on, and this is a quote, kept on asking me to lick her pussy.

That was the whole thing, the episode. She says it over and over again. And so I had one of the original 1977 comic books of the original Star Wars, one of these books, they're like little collectible type of things, and she signed it for me and she wrote, to the dark lord of extreme foreplay, Jim Jefferies loved Carrie Fisher.

And I have that. I have that hanging on my wall. That's pretty cool. Now, in your podcast, I mean, I don't know, do you dive into that? I think your own opinions about where the movies went, the last three and stuff like that? Oh, yeah. He has to get guests on his podcast.

He doesn't want to alienate you. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I mean, I've had a lot of pretty cool guests on, but I've been pretty vocal that I didn't like The Rise of Skywalker. I mean, I got to go to the premiere, so I was happy with that, and that was when I got to meet Harrison. But the movie itself had no direction.

It was really irritating. I actually think Episode 7 is fun, and I think The Last Jedi, the eighth one, I think it's maybe one of the best made Star Wars movies this is the things people hated the last jedi i like the last jedi much more the rise of skywalker great when it's terrible when it's just unwatchable unwatchable just going oh the emperor's back why because we fucking said so and he's like i have died before and then it's like the whole film they're searching for this thing to find out where the emperor is and they have to search for this special emblem or something like that. And then all of a sudden, and then all the rebels just show up.

They just show up to this place that was hard to find. And then the emperor, this is why they're making the powers too big. Now he's using his lasers, his thunderbolts, to fucking tear down ships. Get the fuck out of here. I was angry the whole film the characters are completely different in 9 than they are in 7 and 8

that they spend so much time crafting and honing and they don't even seem like the same people plus the silliest things with light speed it frustrated me yeah it wasn't a good film yeah okay that's why I asked Dan I've only seen i've

only seen it twice because i gave it a second view on a plane i saw it in greece we saw it in greece maybe because it was in greek it was harder conceivable yeah we saw it we saw it in greece but um look i as i said i don't mind the prequels. I still think the Phantom Menace is a banger of a movie. And I went and saw it in the cinema several times. I think that lightsaber fight with Darth Maul is the quintessential one, the best one. Great. The best one.

The pod racing is good. Sure, the Gungans go on a little bit long, and you're really just watching a cartoon for a lot of it. You're just watching a Pixar film for a lot when they have their war with the droids and all that type of stuff. but ahmed best who was jar jar man he he went through hell uh with people just treated him horribly when he was given a role and given a part so he played his ass off to create this character and now i don't know if you ever hear him in interviews or things like that or maybe you know i'm at best but he is incredibly intelligent he teaches film at USC

he's like just listening to him is like a master class in film the guy is amazing yeah he's awesome I know he went through I know that character was really a lot of people didn't like it because they thought the voice was racist so he personally went through

he went through terrible terrible treatment and alienation and threats. He was treated terribly. And Jake Lloyd had a hard time. He played Anakin. Oh, it was terrible. He had a hard time as well afterwards. Yeah.

Oh, wow. The Skywalker Saga. The story, as Jim said, the story of the family of the Skywalkers, Anakin Skywalker's mother being inseminated, and then Kelly couldn't write that name there. But yeah, talk to us about what that is, the Skywalker saga. I mean, you know, he nailed it. The midichlorians concept is the notion that you can take someone's blood test

and you can determine from that blood test how strong you are in the Force, which actually, in when the original film was created, Obi-Wan Kenobi says, the Force is an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, binds the galaxy together. So he says, it's created by all living things. So the notion of

midichlorians is already baked into that. So the mythological conceit of this film, because George wanted to create a modern mythology is that you've got a mysterious birth which joseph campbell later uh talks a lot about in the hero's journey which he maps out kind of how 14 steps to how a story is told so mythologically it tracks and then it's episodes one through nine the clone wars is thrown in there because that's a big part of Anakin's story as well.

And then I think because they ran out of episodes and now we're kind of in this sort of holding pattern until we get to go back to theaters and see a movie again. I love the TV shows. I'm a big fan of Andor. Andor's great. Andor's great. Andor's great.

The finale you guys are going to love comes out tomorrow. You've seen it already? I have. My son loves Mandalorian going to love comes out tomorrow. You've seen it already? I have. My son loves Mandalorian. We love Boba Fett. You know what I thought was a banger of a film that got no credit? It was Solo. I love Solo.

Alden Ehrenreich nailed it as Han Solo. He was great. Fun movie. It was almost because something else had come out that people didn't like or was it Last Jedi had come out or something. I don't remember. But there was kind of like this silent protest against it.

Because they removed the two directors from it and Ron Howard replaced it. So it was already kind of. It was a banger. I don't give a shit either. Rogue One's a banger as well. Rogue One's a hell of a movie. Yeah, so I've been telling anyone that I listen about it. banger. I don't give a shit either. Rogue One's a banger as well. Rogue One's a hell of a movie. I've been telling anyone that listened about it.

I think Andor, just as a standalone television show, is up there with any television show I've ever seen. Forget Star Wars. It's just like... It's great. I'm a big Tony Gilroy fan. I loved Rogue One, but I like Michael Clayton and everything else. Then you'll see some of the episodes are written by Bo Willimon, or I'm not saying his name One, but I like Michael Clayton and everything else. And then you'll see it's like some of the episodes are written by Bo Willimon,

or I'm not saying his name right, but the House of Cards. The level of writing and acting in Andor is like off the charts. But it's a little bit unaccessible for kids. My son's finding it hard without the lightsabers to get into Andor. Well, I'm not even showing it to my nine-year-old because there's just, I mean, in the first five minutes, you've got a shot to the face, point blank. Yeah, but I'm not even showing it to my nine-year-old because in the first five minutes you've got a shot to the face point blank I'm not a good dad

well that's actually why we're here to have a little intervention yeah but there's obviously no lights there but there's still like even in that last episode when he's with a tractor beam and the ship there's still some cool really cool like kind of Star Wars-esque that you're used to.

I'm an episode behind. Okay, sorry. You'll see it. It's cool. It's still cool when you see it. All right, you said this is a meaty question, though. The origin story of George Lucas, with the garage of George Lucas in Star Wars,

Jim touched on his first movie, THX, a student sci-fi film. Then he made American Graffiti, and then I guess he got inspired by Flash Gordon. Is that close to what? Absolutely, yeah. You nailed that. I mean Then he made American Graffiti. And then I guess he got inspired by Flash Gordon. Is that close to what? Absolutely. Yeah, you nailed that. I mean, he loved those serials. He actually wanted to make Flash Gordon.

But the rights, I think his fee was going to get 10% of the profit. And then the producer at the time was going to get 90% of the profit. And so obviously that was not the way to go. So then he created his own story and yes he made thx 1138 with an actor by the name of robert duvall you may have heard of and then of course american graffiti blew up and that was what gave him kind of the cachet to have uh someone take a chance on a mid-20th century fox and aled mayad jr ultimately were the ones who gave him the money and he had to go back five, six times to get money.

He ended up in the hospital from exhaustion. A lot of the special effects weren't done. He had a terrible time. It's amazing. It's interesting that both he and Steven Spielberg were best friends. They're major films that exploded, Star Wars and Jaws. There were so many problems and technical problems and budgetary concerns. They were way past schedule,

but they both still become household names because they stuck to their visions. Yeah, I got to imagine, especially back when that was made, just showing that script, people were like, what? It went through so many drafts. It was rewritten so many times.

When the actors were making the film, they didn't think it was any good i just saw because it's very hard without james ells jones when you got like a northern i just saw that clip recently i didn't know that yeah yeah when you just got the british bloke going oh and then also the wookiees chatting yeah yeah but i just saw the old man's a fool i just saw the clip where darth vader's where the where the actor's voice is Darth Vader and not James Earl Jones, which I knew that James Earl Jones wasn't in there, but I never even thought about that with the actors.

But did that guy think his voice was actually going to be? I think he did at the time, yeah. He did, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, oh, wow. He was really put off by that. Yeah, he probably was like, hey, he brought his parents to go see the film. Check this out.

He was a bodybuilder, and he fit the look, obviously. He'd done Frankenstein or something before, one of those type of things. He was a great big bloke. But he made a good living going around to Comic-Cons and taking photos with people. He did just fine. Don't worry about him.

I'm not worried about him. Who was Chewbacca? That was an easy one. Wookiee was best friends. Maybe Lovers with Han Solo. What do you guys have been saying? One of my favorite comic books is the one, is the only time that the Star Wars world visits Earth

is the Millennium Falcon crashes in Portland. And because Wookiees live to be like 800 years old or however they might even live to be older. Han Solo dies of old age. And then, you know, fucking Chewbacca just hangs around the bush. He's Bigfoot? He's Bigfoot. Yeah.

And they find, I think they find the skeleton of the remains of Indiana Jones, too. Yeah. Wow. And is that, Jim, you said George Lucas drove around with a big dog in his seat? People thought it was funny. He has a big dog.

Yeah, a Malumet, right? Yeah. I believe that was the type of animal it was. So this question, that's really hard. Do I even ask it, or Iumet, right? Yeah. I believe that was the type of animal it was. So this question, that's really hard. Should I even ask it, or should I just skip it? You can just tell them what the answer is. It was four of these fallen characters were not hanging out in Jabba's palace

when Luke came to rescue his friends in the third Star Wars movie, Return of the Jedi. And it was Atark, who was a puppet, was built, was never made to set. Arika was Mara Jade in disguise in the Expanded Universe. Sael't, Maray, Yakface appears on the barge only. And then Ula, dead, eaten by Rancor at that point. So, sorry.

I think that Boba Fett escaped the Rancor, not the Rancor, the Stalact Pit. I believe he escaped that too easily. That pissed me off. Oh, when you saw it? Yeah, he's like, you're meant to be digested over a long, long time. He's got the...

He just sort of jetpacks out of there and digs a bit. He was pretty beat up, though. Yeah. Okay. He needed a lot of Bactine to cure that. Like, all the clones were Maoris. They were all cloned from him. Yeah, because he's from New Zealand.

Yeah. The actor, yeah. Yeah, man. Not Boba Fett. Well, the little boy who played Boba Fett's son who has the thickest New Zealand accent ever. Daniel Logan? The thickest New Zealand accent you could have.

Dad, what's going on? Dad, there's some person here to talk to you. It was thick, man. It was thick. Okay, so all the stuff. Because they filmed those two movies in Sydney. Oh. The first two were the three. Well, there was a big boom in the movie

industry in Australia because the Australian dollar was in the toilet and they'd made in that studio already Superman Returns. I think they might have made that afterward, but they'd made moulin rouge was a big film that they did just before that and they had that stage the biggest green stage on earth at fox studios in sydney and they believed that that was going to become like a universal studios thing with rides and everything and that never panned out but they opened the comedy store there at the same location oh yeah okay the sydney comedy store is the location when they made Star Wars.

Because Hayden Christensen was hanging out in Bondi the whole time, and I think there was a lot of women in town that were very unhappy when they stopped making those films. All right, so here, name all the movies, all the Star Wars films, and who directed them. Jim was saying, he said George Lucas did the original three. He did the prequels? Yeah, he said New Hope.

Okay, if you want to do them in their numbers, he did 1, 2, 3, 4, and then 5, 6 was somebody else. You said Crushed Knife? I don't know what Crushed Knife is. Return of the Jedi. Yeah, what's his name? The old bloke with the beard. Why don't you just tell us who did it?

So George wrote episodes 1, 2, 3, and 4. He directed 1, 2, 3, and 4. And then episode 5 is directed by Irving Kirshner. Kirshner. See, I wasn't that far off. Written by Lawrence Kasdan, who also wrote The Big Chill and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yeah. Episode

6, Return of the Jedi, is directed by Richard Marquand, who died shortly after he made that. And then that was also written by Lawrence Kasdan. 7, it was written by J.J. Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan and directed by J.J. Abrams. And then 8 is written and directed by... Ryan Johnson. Ryan Johnson, of course, who I think is a genius.

Also did Knives Out. And then Episode 9 is directed by J.J. and written by J.J. And let's see, the other person who wrote that movie, I can't remember. I just pulled it up on Wikipedia. Chris Terrio, it says. Oh, yes, that's right. That's right. That's right.

I don't know. I just pulled it up. And then because I was pulling it up solo, the movie we were talking about that we liked. Ron Howard directed it. After Chris Lord and Bill Lord and Chris Miller. Chris Miller were the original directors.

And then the writer of Solo was Lawrence Kasdan and his son, John Kasdan. Kasdan again. Kasdan came back. He's like the muse for Han Solo. And then Rogue One is directed by

it's written by Henry Gilroy who's done all the a lot of the Andor stuff. And the director of that, oh gosh, I can picture him. He did one of the newer Godzillas and it was terrible. I got his name there. Gareth Edwards. Gareth Edwards, yes.

Yeah. What's the name of the crystals? I can't move on until I know. What are they? Kyber crystals? Kyber! Kyber! Kyber! And you're right. They fuel the Death Star's laser too. I didn't know that. That's cool. The Kyber crystals.

Chris Columbus was not involved. He was involved in the first Henry Potters. So where do the Kyber crystals come from? That's got to be a good plan. Well, they get mined. You see them in Rogue One. They were mining them and stuff like that. But it's only a little crystal.

The color of the crystal is the reason that your lightsaber is the color that it is. Oh, yeah. That's what they're getting from that mine. Yeah, yeah. And they're trying to fuel the Death Star and everything to make the... They're scattered throughout the universe, and they're very unstable. But the reason that Jedi has it in the lightsaber is because there's something about it

that allows them to kind of sort of zen out and focus during battle because it helps them to center themselves through the Force, and that's why they're connected to their chiropractor. There's a banging scene where, a deleted scene, where Luke is making his new lightsaber. Yes. And he puts the crystal in. This is Return of the Jedi, and it's before.

But they never put it in. They never put it in. This is before it was loaded into R2-D2 for the surprise attack on the barge. That's cool. But he's in a cave, and he puts the crystal in. It's super cool. It's a really cool scene. Mark Hamill didn't even film that scene for some reason. Or was it just his hands or something?

It was an actor, yeah. Huh. I heard a story that Samuel L. Jackson only was going to be in Star Wars if he got to have a purple lightsaber. Well, he requested a purple lightsaber and he really wanted the part. He really went after the part. He was going to be in regardless of whether he had that lightsaber. He would have been a stormtrooper without even his helmet come off.

He didn't care. He loved Star Wars. He just wanted to be in. Wait, he would have been a stormtrooper without his helmet? I mean, he just said it. Daniel Craig was a stormtrooper. I remember that. That's right, in Force Awakens.

Yeah, he was a stormtrooper, but he kept his helmet on, right? I tell you, I have a full stormtrooper outfit. Same. Notoriously, I have a full stormtrooper outfit. Same. Notoriously, I have little legs. Notorious, this is to me. I think you've got lovely legs. Yeah, but I have short legs. So the rest of it fits my torso properly, but the legs thing,

I walk like C-3PO in the stormtrooper outfit. I can't get a good stride because my knee and my thing's clicking together, and I can't sit down. It was the most awkward Halloween of me life. But I sometimes just get it on and just walk around the house in front of me sons for a bit of fun. It looks cool. How old are your kids?

Ten and one. Oh, love it. What is the Force? Jim said, what binds us, what brings us together and gives us life? It's been bastardized by the last few films. You can talk to people and give them Jedi mind tricks, and then you lift them up, and then you went on a rant. Yeah, they've gone too far.

Yeah. So how do we describe the Force, Dan? Yeah, like I said, it's energy field created by all living things, surrounds us, penetrates us, binds the galaxy together. Yeah, okay. I know you got upset with the last three films because you got upset with Princess Leia, right? She was flying through the sky.

Yeah, but why couldn't you do that? They never established all of it. Oh, I love that. Think of it this way. You know how, you know when the original Bill Bixby, when that adrenaline kicks in, it's like if you're the daughter of Anakin Skywalker and your brother's the most powerful Jedi who ever lived,

you better be able to sort of instinctively reach out to the Force to survive. Yeah. I didn't mind that stuff because you're coming from a place where you're saying you think you know all the stuff the Force can do, and I'm like, well, we don't know all the stuff it can do, so it could do some of this stuff. They're still writing it. Yeah.

Because even in The Mandalorian when they… Yoda knew all the shit it could do some of this stuff. They're still writing it. Yeah. Because even in The Mandalorian when like they – Yoda knew all the shit it could do. Even Yoda knew everything? Yoda fucking knew. Don't worry about that. Okay. All right. He lift up a few rocks.

Good, good. Yeah, but that was Luke. Yeah, Luke was good, man. I know. And you know what? I didn't mind – I know you get upset know what? I didn't mind. I know you get upset with the last three movies, but then you were saying that.

You know what the thing that bothered me the most was Admiral Ackbar's death. Yeah, that upset Forrest Dinklage. Unceremonious. He's like in, since my youth, I've followed Admiral Ackbar, and he's been an important character. He's, I mean, even if you're not in Star Wars, right, it's a trap. It's like this meme. Like, even if you're not in the Star Wars, he's been an important character. He's, I mean, even if you're not in Star Wars, right, it's a trap. It's like this meme.

Like, even if you're not in the Star Wars, he's been a meme. He's been part of pop culture. And then like, Admiral Ackbar died. I'm like, what the fuck? I agree. I forgot about that. That pissed me off too.

Can we also agree that Admiral Ackbar and his species, you'd have to keep them wet, wouldn't you? My color, right? Yeah. You'd have to get a spray bottle. Yeah, like they couldn't be out in the sun, those lot. They have to be in a cold environment in a damp outfit. What is a species?

What's Admiral Ackbar's species? Mon Calamari. Yeah, Calamari, yeah. Of course it's Calamari. Yeah, because remember in Mandalorian, he went to that Calamari island and there was like, they were just serving chowder out of tubes. Yeah, but I didn't know that that was called calamari.

I feel like because of that, they're all Bostonians, the calamari people. They're fiends. Best part of my day is like, yeah. Yeah, you know it's a trap. It's a trap, yo. Yeah, I was really pissed off. And I know that they introduced, I don't remember her name.

The actress is Laura Dern. But I know they introduced her and made her kind of the hero in that thing. But I thought that could have been Admiral Ackbar's scene if they wanted it to be where he's like, I will do this and sacrifice. Because to me, he was such an important character and an important sub-character. But anyways, that's just me. I was very upset about Admiral Rockworth. So I had two auditions for the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, right?

And I did one of them very well. And I got a call back. I didn't get the part, but I got a call back. And then they offered me another audition to have another go. So one of the audition parts was for the Jedi Hunters. It was the Asian guy with the dome on his head who spoke like this, why are we going to do this? Like he did that type of a read.

Yeah, who's that actor? Oh, you're talking about from Ochiobastoon? From Obi-Wan Kenobi. Obi-Wan Kenobi. Oh, the're talking about from Ochiobastoon? From Obi-Wan Kenobi. Obi-Wan Kenobi. Oh, the Jedi Hunter. Yeah, those three people. Oh, the Inquisitors. The Inquisitors, yeah.

So I got an audition as an Inquisitor, and he was going, you need to settle down. That's how he did the part. And I was like this. And he goes, if there are any Jedis in that. He did it like that. And I did it like a posh English sort of like

I walked in like you didn't know yeah well you know my own interpretation he was like menacing but my guy was like if there are any

jetties if you could please just give us a call I did it a bit Basil Fawlty right that's pretty cool

I like that and so I didn't get that and then I got another audition for the part that Kamal. Kamal Nanjiani. Kamal Nanjiani had. Oh, really?

So I got an audition for that role. That was a more comedic role too. And obviously they wanted a comedian for that. He was probably always getting the part, but I had a go. And it came back with my agents. And so I had a choice. So the with my agents. And so I did it. I had a choice, right? So the opening scene, they come in and he's meant to be like a Jedi.

So I did like, yeah, he's a fake Jedi. He's like this. He's like, they're going, I'm feeling something. The force is coming. You must leave soon. Please don't ever speak of my name again. You must leave safe. I was doing it like a bit Obi-Wan Kenobi type thing, right?

And then when Obi-Wan Kenobi comes in and puts a blaster in his face, I went back to Australia and went, oh, no. Oh, okay. Because obviously when he was a con man, he was British. When he was normal, he was Australian. I thought this was a funny choice. That makes sense. That's clever.

I was dead happy with the audition. I think I did it with you, Jack, didn't I? You do all my auditions. Yeah, yeah. We do them all together. So I thought it was a good idea. i thought i did really funny and all that my not my agent my manager and the people from star wars when it was terrible you changed accent halfway through that's the point they just thought i was a bad actor

changed accents i didn't know that was your note yeah they went we don't get it you didn't even keep the accent all the way yeah when he got caught he became an Australian bloke not enough Australians that sucks because if they had known that beforehand you wonder if they would have thought it was brilliant I cried bigotry I was like this

you know I had to be Australian you know I had to be Australian in Star Wars and then I remember the young Boba Fett hello dude I can promise you on Coffee with Kenobi we would have pointed out

that once you were busted you had to change accents because that was part of your acting yeah yeah you get it you get it absolutely

I thought that was a funny idea I think that's a great idea that he was super Australian and then he was posh the other time but alas I did not get it right. Run it by Dan next time you get an audition.

Have you been in anything, Dan? Have you been in any Star Wars movies, TV shows, anything? I was in a Target Star Wars commercial because I use Star Wars as I teach Shakespeare. So they custom made an X-Wing thing for me. They had me send in my measurements and they sent them over to Japan, and they air-mailed this thing over to me,

and I was on this massive green screen set and did a lot of cool stuff like that. That's awesome. I am – when I was a kid watching Star Wars, I was obviously very – I'm like – what age are you, Dan? I am 50. Okay, so I'm five years younger than you, but we're similar type of age, enjoying it as kids.

Now, in Australia, it used to be that now movies all come out on the same day all around the world, right? Sometimes they use Australia as a test audience. Like we get a movie a couple of months earlier, and then if the movie doesn't do great, they re-edit it a little bit before they release it to the rest of the world. They use this as a test thing, right? But Star Wars is always the whole world.

Now, it used to be that once, when everything was on film canisters, of the world they use this as a test thing right but star wars is always the whole world now it used to be that that once when everything was on film canisters so the rest of the world would see movies and once you were done with them then australia got the films they just sent them down to you so i would know that return of the jedi was coming out for fucking months there was no internet or anything like that all i had was all the toys way before the movie and all the lunch boxes and all the things and all that stuff and my brother had like a picture of of of han sol and he was shooting a gun but the gun the bullet was still coming out and we were convinced that han sol had become a jedi in the next film and that was like an

important thing to us like look at the fucking picture. He's holding a lightsaber. Oh, you thought it was a lightsaber? It was a bullet car? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was Yoda? And there'd always be one prick kid who went to America on fucking school holidays

and came back and ruined it for all of us. Who was Yoda? Jim said a powerful Jedi that came from the Dagobah system. That's a grand slam right there. What race is Yoda? No one knows. That is something that George wanted

to not ever be revealed to keep the mystery alive, and Lucas almost respected that so far. And how much of a banger of an idea was Baby Yoda? I know he's the child. He's not called Baby Yoda. Genius. But it's going back to having an actual live puppet. People can act with puppets.

People can have empathy for a puppet. A $5 million puppet. Yeah. Wait, it costs $5 million, baby? $5 million. And there's only one? Is there only one baby? You know, I don't know. I would assume they've got something for other shots. Most of that money would have been spent in the engineering and the technology to get there.

Yes. But he's not diamond encrusted. No, no, no. There's a lot of working parts. But that first scene. They were going to do it CGI, and then what's this guy, the name who plays the client? He's the director.

Favreau. Favreau. No, no, the director. He's a director of independent films name who plays the client? He's the director. Favreau. Chuck Favreau. No, no, the director. He's a director of independent films. He plays the client. Oh, the guy. He's the documentary guy. Yeah, I can picture him.

Werner Herzog. Herzog. Yes, yes. He was the one who said, don't be a coward. Don't use CGI. Use a puppet. Use a puppet. That's like the classic, and you can make it come to life.

He's the one that's in it. And they went for it. I tell you what, my wife has no interest in Star Wars, but she's in love with Baby Yoda. Yeah, no. My wife, same way. Yeah, and she was like, and then I was like, when Baby Yoda goes off with Luke Skywalker, she goes,

I'm not watching the next series of Mandalorian. If there's no Baby Yoda, I don't want to watch it. And then like in Boba Fett, when Baby Yoda decides to go back to The Mandalorian, he's in that little plane at the back and he's in a little dome. And my wife said, he's going to be in the next season of The Mandalorian. And she's like, what? Absolutely. But also he was in Boba

Fett. Yeah, but she didn't watch Boba Fett. I had to just fill her in that Baby Yoda's back. Show her those three episodes that he's in because I think that really brings it all together. Yeah, because that first, and it's like, and it's the same thing, because Bianca, we watched The Mandalorian together,

and she wasn't in the Star Wars, but yeah, that first episode, when he's revealed, you're like, yeah, this is good. He's very cute. Yeah. He's very cute. Oh, boo. There you go. You even know him, see?

Yeah, and you're not even in the Star Wars. You know, he transcended. Oh, my nephews have the dolls. I know. They're transcendent. The toys. If you've ever been in a Walmart, you know who Big E is. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, because I remember when they made the Phantom Menace, and I was in university at the time, and, you know, the Jar Jar Binks merchandise wasn't flying off the shelf. No. Weird. We had a very hot summer in Perth. It was in Perth. And I remember we bought an inflatable backyard swimming pool,

which was a Jar Jar Binks themed one because it was like 50% off. Yeah. And we'd sit out in the back on a hot day just with a tap, just a hose in the pool sitting in our jar jar binks inflatable swimming pool um but and so where what so they don't know what race he is they don't know where he's from originally or anything so same thing with the baby the baby nothing's ever been nothing's ever been said it was the idea behind the dagger bar system that it's so murky and atmosphere that'd be hard for them to search for him through the force because of the layer outside.

I've heard theories on this because why did he go to the Dagobah system to hide out? Like, is it because there's not much life forms there? They go, there's only a few life forms, some animals or whatever. Well, the nice thing is there's a ton of life forms, but there's so many, you know, microscopic to different swimming creatures and flying things so that it will be hard to sense him through the force because that's a planet that's strong in the force anyway,

but there's no technology and there's no civilization there. So it would be like the Empire can't mine that because there's no natural resources that they could use to destroy. Oh, yeah. So they're not looking for anything there. And then it would be like a rainforest. There'd be so many life forms. They'd be like, I don't know.

It'd be like a swamp or a sewer. Why bother? Oh, yeah. That makes sense. Okay. Okay. There is only one little person who appears in all three original trilogy Star Wars films as different races.

What's his name and what three characters does he portray? Did you know this? I did. Okay. Jim said Kenny Baker. Is that correct? That's a good guess, no it's Jack Purvis Was he also in Time Bandits? He is, yep

You got it You're right, he was a Jawa He was the head Jawa, I remember that He was an Ugnaught And I know he was one of the Ewoks But I can't remember which one It says here he was Chief Jawa and then Chief Ugnaught and Tebow

in Return of the Jedi. Oh, yeah. Kenny Banker was a stand-up comedian. Yeah, and really funny. Like, really, really. He has a great self-awareness. Yeah, the Dwarven R2, he was a stand-up comedian. The northern British one.

He and Anthony Daniels did not get along. Anthony Daniels, C-3PO didn't do him. He famously said, I get in the outfit when the dwarf gets in the trash can. Wait, that's what C-3PO did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't get along? Yeah, they didn't get along, yeah. I don't want to know that because it seems like they're like best friends.

It's bad. Yeah, it was bad. Oh, wow. Okay, and then speaking of that, how many languages is C-3PO fluent in? Jim said 5,000? Yeah, he did. That is a little off. No math major, but I believe it's six million forms of communication.

Oh, yeah, no. Six million. That's pretty good. And then he doesn't know how to speak fluent Ewok. Get the fuck out of here. I thought he did know Ewok. No, he does. No, he has pigeon Ewok.

He goes, this is a very rare dialect, blah, blah, blah. I thought he did know Ewok. No, he does. No, he has pigeon Ewok. He goes, this is a very rare dialect, blah, blah, blah. He knew enough, though. Pigeon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He knew enough, though. Yeah, not good. He didn't really know it. He knew enough to get him out of there.

Yeah, enough to have fucking where's the barbershop. He retold the whole story with a sound effect. It's the same as you speaking Spanish. I'm pretty... No. He's better at it than I was at Spanish. C-3PO's just not all cracked up. Okay.

What is the name of the Death Star's original commander? Lieutenant forgot his name. That's what James said. Grandma Tarkin. Grandma Tarkin. Yeah. You're right about the actor from the classic horror films. Yeah.

Tarkin. I thought I smelt you on the way into this thing or whatever she goes on. And then like, if you watch like the Obi-Wan Kenobi series and they talk to Leia, they're like, she's on Alderaan and they're just like, you are going to grow up to be the greatest leader and all this

type of stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And in 10 years, you're going to be responsible for the whole planet blowing up underneath your charge. Shock's a shocking job. Okay. What is the name of the creature that lives in the trash compactor on the original Death Star? Yeah, what is that? Oh, that is called – oh, my gosh.

I knew it until you asked me because I had it as a toy. It comes with the Death Star. It's Dianoga. Dianoga. Yeah, that sounds familiar. At Galaxy's Edge at Disney World in Disneyland there's a drinking found over by one of the main restrooms and if you hit the thing Dianoga will pop up and there's two behind it.

I'll tell you what's fun in Disneyland. They have Coca-Cola and Sprite and they make them all Star Wars-y. I got them right back there. Wait, what do you mean they make them Star Wars-y? I'll show you. The label is Thermal Detonators. You know it's coca-cola you still know it's sprite but you buy it because it's like this is a fun coca-cola or a writer sprite

oh i see oh you just drink it out of that yeah so you know that's coca-cola yeah yeah yeah it's coca-cola and that's how you get and tsa And TSA had a, I mean, they didn't really talk with TSA, so when people were first going to Galaxy's Edge, they weren't letting them bring it on the plane, because it looks like. Yeah, yeah. Problem. That doesn't look good for TSA, yeah.

But now it's okay. It's got the ingredients. The calories. The Sprite's the same. They've got a green one. And a Diet Coke as well. Very cool, very cool. I don't know if this is the dinner party fact but

you know what luke skywalker's name was originally going to be i don't know oh i do know this i do know this um this is a bonus question of my george lucas class at usc yeah it was luke no i've forgotten do you know what the stark star killer star killer star killer that's why they call it that in the last three. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Star Killer. That's exactly right. Okay.

How old is Yoda when he dies? Jim said 500? 900. Oh, man. When you live to 900 years, you look so good. Exactly. Oh, yeah. 900 is too long.

Also, you know what I don't like about the new Star Wars is when someone comes back and they're part of the force, all of a sudden Yoda becomes like Don Rickles, right? And he's there making jokes. Burning down fucking buildings and shit. It's like the cat's not dead at all. It used to be like they could come back for a second and just go, Luke, Luke, go to the Degabar.

They could pass on a text message back in the day. could come back for a second and just go, Luke, Luke, go to the Degabas. They could pass on a text message back in the day. They had about a tweet worth of information they could give you, and now they sit down and chat with you. Now they come back from the force. So what are we doing this weekend? Yeah, they got FaceTime. First it was text. But the cell reception on Hoth is no bueno.

No, honestly, I think, and I think I could probably back this up. I feel like the stronger you are in the Force, the easier it is to see people who is a Force, someone who is a Force ghost. I mean, he barely knew anything about the Force when he saw Obi-Wan and Hoth, but by the time he gets to The Last Jedi, he can have long hours,

because they're both very strong in the Force. Yeah, and why did Liam Neeson just show up at the end, I can only remember for a second, I've always been here. He was too busy making bad movies nobody's ever heard of. Yeah, yeah. He was getting his daughter from the sex traffickers. Taken 42, I think.

I would love to see Taken in Star Wars Universe. I think that Star Wars is such a good sandbit to play in that I don't think there's any end to this now. I think they can deviate off into any timeline or any character, whatever they want now. I know that Disney will ride this until it's dead, but I hope they do. I mean, I'm looking at it.

I hope so. I really enjoy it. Yeah, I really enjoy it. I mean, this is just on Wikipedia. I'm not like pointing. It just says there's an untitled Star Wars film with Taika that he's doing. Well, they've been working on that for a while. But Taika directed a lot of the Mandalorians.

Yeah. Yeah, he did one of them. And then, of course, he did all the Marvel stuff. Rogue Squadron sounds like it's animated, but I don't know if it is. Rogue Squadron was something Patty Jenkins was working on that was inspired by her dad was a fighter pilot in the military, but that is not happening right now. I want a documentary behind the music about the band that's in the cantina.

Figurine Dan and the Modal Nodes. Yeah, yeah, that blue elephant that plays the piano. That's their name? What's their name? Figurine Dan, D-A-N in the Mola Notes. But then the blue guy he's talking about, Max Rebo, he's in Return of the Jedi in Jabba's Palace. Oh, yeah, he's in Jabba's. He's in Boba Fett, and I think he ends up getting killed.

Yeah, he's with that skinny one that they went to CGI on. The lips went blue. Oh, size noodles. Size noodles, yeah. But it was better when they were just dancing underneath with sticks and all that type of stuff. That was a good song, though. But I'm making the Lego cantina as we speak, me and my son.

Oh, really? Nice. As you speak. You've been working on that for like a year. For a year, since Christmas. Hey, that's pretty heavy stuff. I mean, that's a lot of pieces. It's an 18-bagger, man.

Absolutely. So, Jack Jack you're welcome it's always sitting there ready to go I just don't want to take the joy away from your child no he just wants to see it done anyway so

so but I've just made the stage with the band I've put the band together I saw the band it looks great yeah yeah the band's together

you gotta have my nephew come over and do it he'll put it together so fast which one Jack Alex Alex he's a whiz.

You know what I've always thought is like that's the cantina where they say, oh, this is where the roughest people are in the whole galaxy. And they're listening to that music? Space jazz. Yeah. And these are like, wouldn't it be like metal or something? It's a long time ago, Forrest. The rock and roll music hasn't even come in.

They were doing the fucking Charleston. Okay. Well, George Lucas told you I wanted light jazz. That was the mood he was going for in the cantina. Yeah. Okay. I'll tell you what's fun about the Lego, where Han and Guido sit. There's little triggers on the outside so you can press it to make them look like they've

gotten shot and they spring out of their seats. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Bit of fun. You just call him Guido? I like that. Is that like the Italian version? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He comes in. cool. Could have fun. You just call him Guido. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He comes in.

He's just like this. Who's Guido? What's his name? I don't remember. Guido. Guido. I call him Guido like, hey, you owe me some money.

Speaking of Robert Duvall. Yeah. And Han Solo first. We all agree. Absolutely. 100%. Why is that? That's a big one.

Shut up. You don't even fucking talk to me, Forrest. Back in 1997 when they did the special edition, they had Greedo show first because he was afraid that Han Solo would not look like a good guy if he was a murderer. But that's kind of the point. Even like his outfit is white with the black vest to indicate that he's sort of in between as far as good versus bad.

Yeah, it was a whole character point. But then like Guido shoots, but he shoots like above his shoulder, like misses by a mile. He's like five feet away from the man, maybe four feet, right? And then Han shoots him, but Han originally shot first. The only way he can still get the original movies in any high quality is on the big laser discs. And I still have a Betamax video of it. Same here.

I still have a Betamax video of it. Betamax still works great too. They knew how to make those. Luke and Leia's mom, you said Natalie Portman, Queen Amidala. Yep, that's right. And who played Queen Amidala's decoy? Oh.

The actress? No, I'm asking first. I know you know. I remember the face. I don't know. Keira Knightley. Whoa. Yeah, they look identical.

She was about 16 or something. She was very young. Yeah, she was very young. All right. This assuming blaster technology gets better over time, rank these fighters by weapons, firepower from weakest to strongest? I have the answer here. Yeah, got one.

A-Wing is the weakest. What's an A-Wing fighter? They were introduced in Return of the Jedi. They didn't really look like a letter A. They're just kind of like a traditional. They're just a fighter. I think of like the Buck Rogers starships. They kind't really look like a letter A. They're just kind of like a traditional. They're just a fighter. I think of like the Buck Rogers starships. They kind of look like those.

Okay. Then the TIE fighter is the second weakest. Z95 Headhunter? I'm not familiar with that one either. That is a ship from Episode 3. It's like with the clones. It almost looks like an X-Wing. It's white with red.

Oh yeah. Those are cool. They got like six wings. Then the V wing, then the X wing, then the E wing. Yeah. No,

no, no. Then the Y. I've never heard of any wing. Then the, then the Y wing is the one with the wings that fall down. They're bombers. They're the ones in the,

in the original film that are not X wings. Okay. They have a different kind of like, they have like the yellow on it. All right. All right. Let's, let's rank our Jedis from powerful to weakest and just do the don't do

one from the comic book that we've never heard oh do whatever you want do whatever you want weakest the most powerful give me the top 10 weakest uh starting with the weakest i'd read let's go reverse order the most powerful has to be um gosh i guess you'd have to say anakin yeah because anakin's got a higher midichlorian count than master yoda and that's proven the whole thing so we'd have to say anakin yeah and the technology when he's vader he's still insanely powerful but since it's not organic maybe that's why boy i'm a nerd but i would argue that baby yoda is more powerful than Anakin, although he never becomes a Jedi because he chose the Mandalorian life. But Baby Yoda, for just raw ability.

Just raw ability, perhaps, yeah. But you've still got to, the experience weighs into it as well. And then what would you say? You would say? I'd say Anakin, Yoda. Anakin, Yoda, Luke. Luke. Luke. And then Obi-Wan.

You think Mace Windu is less powerful than Obi-Wan? I do. Okay, Mace Windu. Okay, Obi-Wan. Okay. And then I think maybe you go Qui-Gon, perhaps? Qui-Gon. Or Count Dooku.

He was pretty powerful. Dooku was a very powerful fella. But Dooku I felt like was a casting error because he was a bit too old to be a junior to the Emperor. He was too old. It's like when they voted in Biden.

Because he's too old, you see. I don't know if you've seen Tales of the Jedi. I don't know if you've seen Tales of the Jedi. I don't know if you're into the animated stuff, but there's three great stories about Dooku as he's a Jedi, as he slowly becomes Palpatine's Sith apprentice.

It's pretty good stuff. Really intense storytelling. Your kids would love it. The rule of two, Jim said, is Padawan and Master. Is that correct? Yeah, Sith Lord and Sith apprentice. kids would love it the the rule of two jim said is padawan and master is that correct uh it's yeah sith lord and sith apprentice yeah okay and then what is the name of boba fett ship is it the fett mobile this is actually pretty controversial uh for forever and ever it was called slave one but when boba fett the book of boba fett came out, there was a Lego set that came out,

and they just called it Boba Fett Starship. And they took out the nameslate one because of the negative connotations associated with that. So it doesn't really have a name anymore. Or what, the number one Boba's people? Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that's it. And then Chancellor, Palpatine, Sith, Alter Ego.

Is it Darsidious? That's the one. Yeah, you're doing well, except for Fetmobile. You're doing good. So what is Count Dooku's Sith, Alter Ego? You got this, brother. Darth. I'll give you a hint that won't give it away.

Darth Brooks. Darth Brooks. No, think Jurassic Park. Think dinosaur. Oh, Darth T-Rex. Darth Tyrannus. Darth Tyrannus. They don't really say it very much.

Yeah, but they do say it, Darth Tyrannus. See, I also want to know what's going on with Darth Maul and his robot legs in Solo. And now that we're not getting another Solo, they just sort of left that dangling in front of me. Oh, you got to watch season four of Clone Wars. It goes into Rebels. There's some good storytelling there.

Well, that's because he was cut. And I feel like every time someone gets cut with a lightsaber, they sort of live because it seems to cortisone the wound. Yeah. Cortisone it. Oh, cauterize. Well, that's what I said. Yeah. Maybe this will run out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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I thought, that might be the coolest person on the planet. I mean, just the way he walked. He had some swagger. I thought he was really good in that film, yeah. He's great. We got to see that premiere of it. I met him one time in Montreal because he was doing the room that I was playing in before. This was just when he was doing Community.

And he was doing the room that I was the show after his room. So he'd come off stage, we'd share a dressing room, we'd chat each night, and then I'd go on and do my spot. And I remember thinking, ah, that guy's doing well. He's on a sitcom. Good for him. Now he's on solo.

I mean, Atlanta. He has a rap career. he's on solo. I mean, not Lando. He has a rap career. He's doing everything. When I tell my students I got to interview him, they lose their minds. Yeah. Yeah. Atlanta, good job. Very successful.

What planet? Where is Lando from? Like, where does he come from? Where is Lando from? I don't remember. Okay. Sorry. Billy Dee Williams, he was one of the coolest cats, man, in his day.

He was classified as very handsome. People were very much into him. What planet does Luke Skywalker grow up on? You said Tatooine. That was one of the things in Andor that I was glad, because I didn't mind that we were on Tatooine a lot with Mandalorian, Boba Fett. But it was cool to be in those new venues,

not venues, locations and stuff in Andor that are just in all these cool areas. Here's one. I'll test you. I'll test you. Who was Anakin Skywalker's mother's husband? You know, when she remarried, what actor played him? Oh, the guy who plays Cleeg Lars.

That's the name of the character. I don't know the actor's name. Jack Thompson. Who's Jack Thompson? Jack Thompson. Jack Thompson is one of the great Australian character actors, like a Shakespearean level of actor. He did a wonderful movie, Russell Crowe, called The Sum of Us or whatever,

but he's been in so many old war movies in Australia. He's like a really good actor but like they also had uh what's his name jared edgerton or whatever played joel joel edgerton played so there was a whole lot of australian actors who got little gigs there and rogue one was that what's his name um he plays the guy he's like one of them he got rogue one can't remember his name. Gosh, I'm not remembering. I just want to be the voice. I just want to be a voice of the droid. He's the guy. He comes to

he's in the opening scene and he comes to I can't remember. You're talking about the one who's the father of Jyn Erso? Yeah, he comes to get Jyn Erso's father. Mads mickelson oh that actor uh what is his name he's also in yeah he's in um the marvel stuff he plays in marvel he's in

that about that the the bloodlines on netflix if only there was a way to access information okay what's the greatest scene in star wars history and what's the worst scene in Star Wars history? I have my opinions on both. Honestly, the greatest scene to me is the tie between when Luke and Vader face off in Cloud City for the first time and says, the Force is with you, young Skywalker, but you are not a Jedi yet. And they're just staring at each other and it's this black, with this incredible silhouette.

One of the few times there's no music in that movie. But I also think the scene in The Last Jedi when Luke, who we didn't know at the time, was a force projection, faces off against the entire First Order and they blast him and he just brushes off his shoulder. I think that's genius.

Yeah, that was cool. Well, I think the classic, Luke, I'm your father, because that blew my mind as a kid. It doesn't blow people's minds anymore because everyone's heard that as such a cliche um so no one would go into the film not knowing this information anymore although like darth vader means father in german you know so it's like darth dark father which we know thank you pitch perfect yeah but it was like all in front of us

and we didn't fucking we couldn't tell right Right. The Germans. My German was rusty. I think the worst scene is the bit where they're- Anytime Anakin and Padme talk to each other is the worst scene. Padme and Anakin laying in the field and they kiss and they roll four or five times. Whenever me and my wife, she saw that thing, whenever we're laying on a picnic blanket or something like that and they kiss and me and my wife she saw that thing whenever we're like we like we're laying on a picnic blanket or something like that and i kiss her me and her roll four times

because we think that's what romance is um here's a question that okay this is really hard when i find if the death star was a globe what direction do the x-wings fly in the trench and then where is the exhaust port so they would the trench would run north the the exhaust port is located where the arctic circle would be and the trench run is the polar trench so they're headed north just so you know it was one of those things like the whole idea that there was a porthole where you could shoot a bullet and the whole thing would blow up and my whole life i was just like put a bit of fucking cheap metal over it yeah but then you see rogue one and all those years i was mocking it,

and I'm like, ah, golden, man. But what about that tape that they used to cover up leaks and stuff like that? Yeah, FlexiFit. Yeah, that would have worked. Yeah, FlexiSeal. Yeah, a bit of FlexiSeal would have done it. Yeah, but you have an infomercial,

and it's just like the Emperor's like, give me some of that FlexiSeal. Are you tired of your giant space station getting blown up by some hooligans? you know that um uh what's his name ewan mcgregor's uncle is in the original star wars that's right as who he's one of the fighter pilots he's got he's wedge yeah he's wedge he's wedge yeah really yeah yeah and then he got the plan and he would have been like you could imagine that kind of every fucking Thanksgiving. Oh, my uncle's here.

He was in Star Wars. And then he'd be working into every conversation. He'd just be like that. Yeah, pass me the turkey. You know who didn't eat turkey? Darth Vader. No, he had to have pureed foods mostly because his mouth was so burnt.

Oh. Right? And then he's like, hey, kids, you get drunk at Christmas. Kids, he's got to tell us another Star Wars story. And then when bloody Ewan came back and said, yeah, I'm Obi-Wan Kenobi, that guy, his life must have been ruined. You gave me a part in there. Well, Wedge was in, I think, three of the films.

He was in. He's also in The Rise of Skywalker, about five seconds. Yeah, yeah. He's got a little cameo, yeah. Yeah, he was a guy. Chewbacca's dad's name. Do we know this? Yeah.

I do know it. It's like, I don't know how to pronounce it, like Adichuk or something like that. Adichuk, there you go. He is watching VR porn at one stage. It is really odd, isn't it? Wait, he really is watching porn? I thought he just made that up.

He's watching something that looks on. He's got a VR headset, and he's sort of just sitting back in his chair. Like he's having a good time. Yeah, it's a weird thing. What is that movie? I never watched it. It's the Christmas special. I've never watched it, though.

Oh, it's on YouTube. It came out in 1978, and it only had one airing. They didn't really give a lot of attention to it because they didn't really realize what kind of a hit star it was going to be. So the leads were contractually obligated to be a part of it. It's got Bea Arthur. It's got other people. Wait, Bea Arthur is in it?

Yeah, Bea Arthur is managing the cantina. Yeah, and then there's, I think, Harvey Korman is in it as well. Carrie Fisher has a song that she sings. Yeah, it's not Christmas. What is the special day? It's like Earth Day or some shit is in it as well. Carrie Fisher has a song that she sings. It's not Christmas. What is the special day? It's like Earth Day or some shit. It's Life Day.

Life Day. George Lucas said if he had a sledgehammer, he'd break every copy of it. Yeah, I don't think it'll ever be released. They sell a lot of merchandise of it at the parks even now. You can see it on YouTube. It's there. It's bad. The Riff Trax version of it is pretty fun.

But there's also like a funk band that comes on halfway through yeah jefferson starship's in yeah nothing's gonna stop them now wait so they so it was in between empire strikes back and a new hope yeah but it's not it's not canon but it's yeah it was made it came out in 78 you see it's like cbs or something like you even see like the youtube clip it's like CBS or something. You can even see it on the YouTube clip. It's like the proper from the TV version. It's like this. And next up, the Star Wars special. It's the first time we see Boba Fett, and he's in a cartoon in the middle of it.

Oh, wow. But you can see that on Disney+. Yeah. Okay. And then there was another thing, too. There was like the Ewoks had something. There were two Ewoks movies that came out. Caravan of Courage and Return to Endor.

That's right. What are those? They're Ewok movies, man. I think they're pre-Return of the Jedi, I believe. But Wilford Brimley's in them. Yeah, they're bad. I'm going to take a guess here and say they were just after Return of the Jedi because I remember my brother distinctly

taking me to the cinema to see both of those films. No, they came out in 84 and 85 they definitely came out after Return of the Jedi but I think as far as how the story works Oh, oh, oh, you're saying before they'd been liberated by the rebels Yeah, and it was just like some teenagers

who got caught in Endor and then there was like a warlock type of person trying to, they're on Disney Plus you can watch them. Yeah, and it was just like some teenagers who got caught in Endor and then there was like a warlock type of person trying to They're on Disney Plus. You can watch them. Well, for Brimley's in one of them. Oh, man. Alright, last question here. The characters and the colors are lightsabers. Jim said Luke of Blue. Is that correct?

Darth Vader Red. Unless it's also Green or Trilogy of the Jedi. Yeah, he's also Green. Darth Vader Red. Yoda Green. Obi-Wan Kenobi Blue. M window purple nice you got it all right all right so this is part of the show called dinner party facts we ask our guests to give us some obscure interesting fact that uh about the subject that people you can use to impress their friends at a dinner party or something like that. What have you got? There are many of them. Give us a couple if you want.

One of my favorites is that on Tatooine, which is actually Tunisia, when R2-D2 gets shot by the Jawas, there's another famous movie where that exact setting takes place

in as well. Now we'll let him tell it. No, I want to hear what he's got. It's also the scene where in Raiders of the Lost Ark Indiana Jones has the rocket launcher and says, I'll blow this place to heaven or whatever.

It's the same ravine. It's the exact same point. That's exactly right. Do you have another one? Oh, gosh. I like that Raiders of the Lost Ark. This is more of a question about do you know the Easter egg

in Raiders of the Lost Ark that features characters from Star Wars? Yes, in Raiders of the Lost Ark when they go into the temple and they're seeing the carvings in the wall, they see carvings of C-3PO and R2-D2. No. Next.

What? Where? It's true. Where is that? In the Well of Souls. It's really quick, but when they're lifting the Ark and they're walking across where the snakes are, where they've been burned, you can see R2-D2 and 3-P-O in the background.

Yeah, if you Google it, it's everywhere. Oh, yeah. It's pretty cool. Do you subscribe to the idea that E.T. is a Jedi? I do. I've never heard that before, but you might be smoking, correct? Okay. No, no.

Okay, let's go through it. Let's go through it. It's very cool. Let's do it. So if there is a scene in The Phantom Menace where we see all the different, the U. of scene where we see a whole lot of. A tribute to Spielberg. A whole lot of.

I know we see E.T. I've seen that. We see E.T.'s, right? Yeah, we see E.T.'s. We only meet one E.T. We don't meet all the other E.T.'s. E.T.'s a Jedi. E.T. can literally make things move with his hands and go around this.

He has telepathic things that he does with Elliot. plus when halloween comes out he walks past yoda and goes yoda yoda how the fuck does he know yoda he never watches the star wars film earlier on et is a fucking jedi he makes a bike fly through the sky with the power of his mind whilst wrapping a sheet around his head in a jedi-like fashion et is a motherfucking jedi well look on this there's there's there's some meat to that theory right no i like it i like it i think i think you've got some substance there my friend because the other if we didn't meet all what we're assuming that all the ets can do the all the different things he makes a bike fly. He recognizes Yoda. Where's his lightsaber?

He crashed. He lost it. He's also naked. We don't know what happened to him in those bushes. Yeah, he's in the river. I got another obscure fact. I feel like this is one that you're going to get, but what was the working title of Return of the Jedi

that they filmed under? Blue Harvest. Yes, good job. Give us some of the Jim does it now. I wish these questions were early on. I'm crushing Blue Harvest. I have a Blue Harvest t-shirt. I wanted to build up your confidence.

Wait, wait. The working title of the film was Blue Harvest? Because they were worried about the budget. Do you know the subtitle of Blue Harvest? Oh, Blue Harvest? Because they were worried about the budget. Do you know the subtitle of Blue Harvest? Oh, Blue Harvest. It's something like Harvest to Beyond or some shit. I can't remember. It's something like that.

It was Blue Harvest Horror Beyond Imagination. Beyond Imagination. The Family Guy Star Wars special is called Blue Harvest. Yeah, the Family Guy's called Blue Harvest as well. And that is why. But it was because every time they went to the shop to go, oh, we need some masking tape. And they go, what's it for?

And they were like, Star Wars. And they're like, and this roll of tape costs $500. And so they had to like, when they were making the movie, they had to go, oh, it's for some shitty film

called Blue Harvest. Oh, 50, 20 bucks. That's why in Atlanta, the call name for Ant-Man was Bigfoot. Yeah. Do you know why Luke's lightsaber was green in Return of the call name for Ant-Man was Bigfoot. Do you know why Luke's lightsaber was green in Return of the Jedi?

I mean, as far as filming-wise, not story-wise. Oh, filming-wise. Technically, why was it green instead of blue? Because they had the introduction of blue screens? No, I like that, but no. They had blue screens before that.

No, because then it would blend in the forest yeah they well because a lot of it was taking place on tatooine and you know with the desert and the blue background they they wanted the green was going to show up better so that was the only reason and also to sell a few more toys i remember that blowing well that didn't hurt i remember yeah oh it was I was like, as soon as it went vroom, and I was like, oh, it's great. It was a simpler time. Okay. Do you have any more quizzes here? Okay.

This is my favorite bit. Well, good. I'm here to help. Let me think of another one that would be good. You already mentioned, do you know another uh famous stormtrooper that was in the force awakens besides um daniel craig daniel craig another famous stormtrooper that was in the force awakens um i know simon pegg played that monstery thing but i don't i don't know if he played a stormtrooper as well but i'm going to

i'm going to say simon pegg for shits and Gigs. No, he's royalty. Prince William. Prince Harry. I believe so. Prince William? I think it was William. I think it's the redhead one. Oh, Harry?

Oh, Harry. He's got the best stormtrooper. That's Harry. Yeah, why wouldn't you just get to play it? You'd think a lot of people would just be stormtroopers just for fun. You're a little bit short for a stormtrooper. Not me, but I'm saying people that are famous enough to be like, let me be a stormtrooper.

Because they're all meant to be clones, you see. They're all meant to be the same. Yeah, I got that. Have you ever seen Once Were Warriors? No. Oh, it's a banger. The guy who plays Boba Fett, it's his first movie. Tamira Morrison?

Yeah, it's his first big film out of New Zealand. It's one of the best movies you'll ever see. It's one of those ones where if you watch it, take the afternoon. Don't, you know, because you're going to need to sit for an hour afterwards and go, oh, because it's a heavy film, right? But it's a banger of a movie about the sort of slums in New Zealand and the Maoris and all that. It's a very good movie.

He's terrific. He's very talented. He did that role, hit it out of the park and then his next role was Speed 2. That was his Hollywood breakthrough. Really? He was the villain in Speed 2 which had the boat and then his next thing was

Star Wars. And then he was of course the father in Moana. Yeah, but Once Were Warriors. I'm telling you. But then Boba Fett coming back must have been huge for him. Oh then he was, of course, the father in Moana. Yeah. But Once Were Warriors, I'm telling you. But then Boba Fett coming back must have been huge for him. Oh, it was huge. He is like a really awesome guy, too. He's able to put a lot of his own culture into the evolution of that character.

He is so terrifyingly scary in Once Were Warriors, and he's somewhat the hero of the piece, but he beats the shit out of people in bars and stuff and he's just the most menacing. Is he an anti-hero or is he just a bad guy? He's an anti-hero. He's a guy down in his luck who's going through a few problems and blah, blah, blah. I want to check that out. There's a sequel

that's not very good, Once For Warriors 2. Don't worry about that one. The first one's a banger of a movie. Jeez, it's a good film. That's cool. i'm more likely to see that than i am speed two yeah yeah you know you don't need to see speed two speed two you get the gist the boat won't stop yeah i've seen it yeah i've seen it once that's all you need um all right dan thank you for being here again uh the podcast is called coffee with kenobi so check that out and you can go to coffee with kenobi. So check that out. And you can go to coffeewithkenobi.com, the website. We'll have all the information there.

And then on Twitter, it's at coffeewithkenobi. IG, it's at coffee underscore with underscore Kenobi. And on Facebook, at coffeewithkenobi. And also buy one of the books if you're into Star Wars. You can go to the Star Wars Character Encyclopedia, for instance. Or how about this one, Jim? Star Wars, I Am Your Father, Lessons for Parents, Protectors, and Mentors.

Yeah, I want to check that out. Mate, this is the episode I've always wanted to do. If I'm to be completely honest with the audience, this is the podcast I'd want to do every time. I could talk Star Wars all day, man. Thank you so much. Yeah, I'd love to have you on Coffee with Kenobi sometime. Whenever you want.

Whenever you want. Whenever you want. We'll get it set up. I'll be a guest whenever you want. I'll be on it. I won't swear on nothing. I don't have to edit it then. I swear on my one, but I won't swear on your one. I'll be real respectful, real good. I won't say shit or nothing.

Okay, we'll put you in contact. I'll put you in contact. I'll put you in contact. That'd be great. Hey, thanks so much, everybody. This was an absolute pleasure and delight. Great chatting with you all. Thank you so much for joining us. Happy Thanksgiving, too. Happy Thanksgiving. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're ever at a party and someone says, you know, they make

their lightsabers work with Cobra crystals, go, I don't know about that, and walk away. Good night, Australia.