I Don't Know About That - Time Zones

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

Geoff Gibson is a geographer and former city planner. He has Bachelor's degree in Geography and a masters in urban planning. He has always been fascinated by maps and the power they have to convey inf...ormation in a spatial manner.    YouTube channel: Geography By Geoff  Podcast: Geography Is Everything   He is also launching a brand new podcast called  “Around The World With Geoff,” where he covers the history and geography of a different country or state in each episode with a special guest from that location! You can subscribe to that show now so you get episode 1 when it drops in a couple weeks!   PRE-SAVE The Doohickey’s new single “Rein It In Cowboy” coming out 6/28: https://FortyBelowRecs.lnk.to/RIIC   IDKAT Live Show on June 25th at Flappers: https://www.flapperscomedy.com/shows/jim-jefferies-podcast/69873/   ADS: BETTERHELP: Visit http://www.BetterHelp.com /IDK today to get 10% off your first month. DRAFT KINGS CASINO: New players, start by playing just FIVE BUCKS to get FIFTY BUCKS in Casino Credits in your pocket INSTANTLY! All you gotta do is download the DraftKings Casino app and sign up with code IDKAT.   CHAPTERS: 0:00 — Ads 0:34 — Theme Song 8:31 — Judging a Book by It’s Cover 13:59 — Guest Intro 16:05 — Questions 18:51 — What is the international date line? 26:19 — Newfoundland 28:14 — Ads 31:14 — Grading 41:56 — International date line answer 53:16 — Jim has a good question 1:08:52 — Toomgis 1:14:22 — Dinner Party Fact   Follow Us: Jim Jefferies Website: https://www.jimjefferies.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/jimjefferies FB: https://www.facebook.com/JimJefferies Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimjefferies   Forrest Shaw Website: http://www.forrestshaw.net IG: https://www.instagram.com/forrestshaw Twitter: https://twitter.com/forrestshaw   Jack Hackett IG: https://www.instagram.com/Jack_hackett The Doohickeys: https://www.instagram.com/the.doohickeys

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Starting point is 00:00:46 What the fuck? And I don't know about that. With Jim Jefferies. You couldn't have mailed it in more. You phone it in. Mailing it in. No, it's worse. Mailing it in takes a lot of fucking effort. You've got to get a stamp.
Starting point is 00:01:03 You've got to get jack to come over to your house to pick it up like mailing it in does it that's not easy mailing mailing things is like the hardest thing i do all day mailing something in jack has to come over yeah like and even phoning in people people don't use the phone anymore for phone calls you should say you texted in that one geez you're texting this in you siried that one in yeah siri voice to text that one in you ai that well the reason jim said 200 200 episode ding ding ding and all the streamers are falling down jack's got an erection how How's that going? Good. Good. You had to check it.
Starting point is 00:01:46 You had to check it. You had to check it. Do you wake up with erections every day, Forrest? Very rarely. Very rarely. I wake up with an erection four days a week. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And I also wake up really needing to piss, so I do that erection piss. Yeah. That's always pleasant. You do a headstand? Oh, you just push it down, and you're like this. And then you shake it off, and then you let go of it, and then a drop flicks you in the forehead. Wait, so during the pee, you still keep the erection? I need to piss right away.
Starting point is 00:02:19 That's why I'm waking up. You don't lose it at all? Like, you're still turned on? No, I'm not turned on. Are you horny? No, I just have it. My erections are strong. You can say what you want about me, but I never miss an erection.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I'm like Gary Nugent. The time I've known you, you said you could say what you want about me, and there's a list of things. You can't say this. Strong erections. You cum a lot. Yeah. I cum at volume.
Starting point is 00:02:43 You like sandwiches? I cum at volume. I eat sandwiches, and my erections are long lasting. You say a lot about me, but I eat sandwiches. I eat sandwiches. What were people saying? You can say what I want. People say a lot of things about me.
Starting point is 00:02:57 You can say what you want about me, but I'm on time. I'm pretty prompt, although I was six minutes late today. But the fact that I knew I was six minutes late says a lot about me. No, I'd say you're pretty prompt. Yeah, I'm pretty prompt, Although I was six minutes late today. But the fact that I knew I was six minutes late says a lot about me. No, I'd say you're pretty prompt. Yeah, I'm pretty prompt. I was six minutes late today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're prompt.
Starting point is 00:03:11 But that's what you get when you're a traveler. I think you're prompt. Yes, yes. You're not an airport pusher. I believe in being on time. Mm-hmm. No matter what. Ass and seat.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Ass and seat. You've got to be ass and seat. That was a term that I think you started using that the first time I went to Australia with you. That's an old term. No, I never heard it, though. There's an episode of Everyone Loves Raymond where they talk about ass and seat.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I never knew it. My dad was an ass and seat. See, I didn't know that term. And then I would use it with my mom. My mom enjoyed that term because we'd have to go to the hospital. It's not as fun, but it was big. Ass and seat.
Starting point is 00:03:42 805. Yeah, because if we don't do ass and seat my wife thinks that's when she brushes her teeth all comes from everyone loves raymond i never watched the show no it's an old old term that everyone loves raymond didn't write it popularized it's it was it was in it but it's something that my dad were in the car in the car yeah never watched everyone loves raymond but i do watch his food show. Oh, I love Everyone Loves Raymond. Someone Feed Phil. Somebody Feed Phil.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I like that show. I like Everyone Loves Raymond. I think Everyone Loves Raymond is a well-written family sitcom. I enjoy it when I've watched it. I mean, I've watched episodes, but I never watched- The brothers, Brad Garrett's hilarious. Ray Romano is very funny. The wife does a good job.
Starting point is 00:04:22 The mother-in-law, Raymond's mother, is dynamite. You got shows coming up, not till August, but you're going to be in Australia down under. I'm in Australia. Come and see me. I'm in Australia. We added shows in Geelong, Canberra. We added another one in Perth. Sandy Bay.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Sandy Bay. Sandy Bay. I think that's Tasmania. Geelong. Geelong. Geelong. Geelong. Geelong. Geelong is like this sort of bit outside of Melbourne. I've Tasmania long Geelong Geelong Geelong Geelong Geelong is like this sort of bit outside of Melbourne I've never been to Geelong I
Starting point is 00:04:49 know that Prince well the King went to school there Wollongong oh Wollongong yeah at the gong and go to the gong you're doing three shows in Newcastle Newcastle loves me man I love Newcastle yeah you're a big fan in Newcastle you love Newcastle like Newcastle loves me, man. Yeah. I love Newcastle. Yeah. You're a big fan of Newcastle. You love Newcastle. I like Newcastle. You spend time in Newcastle. I enjoy Newcastle. Very nice town.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah. Canberra, Canberra, Brisbane. And then a whole bunch of things. I love JimJeffries.com. And then when you're back in the States or North America, you're going to be doing a tour
Starting point is 00:05:18 with Jimmy Carr, the Charm Offensive Tour. You're going to be in all sorts of places in Canada. But let's announce these two big gigs that I'm doing with Mark Norman norman and dan soda yeah st louis you're going to be there with mark norman and dan soda and it is september 13th a triple headliner show triple headliner we're just joining forces to see if we uh all great comics yeah look i'm gonna have
Starting point is 00:05:43 to bring my a game with those two boys these are two comics i respect very much you're a real fucking king hitters yeah yeah great comics i'm gonna have to bring me a game so september 13th st louis missouri it's jim jeffries mark norman dan sutter and then the next night in atlanta georgia same crew jim mark norman and dan sutter september 14th in atlanta georg Both of those. I may come to that one. Very rare you get like three acts doing three headline spots like this. This is like, you know, maybe we'll make it into a bigger thing if these are successful.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah. So check that out on jimjeffries.com, the September 13th and 14th, St. Louis and Atlanta. And then you've got other dates, Detroit, Milwaukee, Kalamazoo, Minneapolis. You've got these make-up dates. You've got Tucson and Phoenix the makeup dates for uh South Africa I'm sorry South Africa I went off and did a movie and I couldn't come and all that type of stuff and we tried to schedule it and we just you're coming back I'm really sorry and to all the people who held onto
Starting point is 00:06:38 their tickets I'm gonna give you the best show I can give you man I'm really sorry I'm gonna be there Atlantic City uh Long Island, Burlington, Vermont, Uncaseville, Connecticut, which is a big casino there. Is that how you pronounce it? I don't know. I always call it Uncasville. Uncasville? That's how you pronounce casino. It's the...
Starting point is 00:06:58 What's the name of the big casino? It's the biggest one of the biggest ones. Foxwoods. Foxwoods. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah. It's there i'll be there with you for that one actually i should probably learn how to pronounce the i don't know anyways it's on the website there um and then go to my website too forestraw.net i just added a bunch of shows if you are in san francisco or sacramento july 30th the punchline in san francisco i'll be there july 31st at the punchline in sacramento i'll be there and then i'm also have a ton of shows in florida uh tampa boca raton um orlando key west miami
Starting point is 00:07:33 fort lauderdale i think i'm gonna add some shows in like coco beach and stuff like that maybe fort myers all throughout september and october i'm gonna be and then i'm also gonna add some shows in austin texas and stuff and be there Florida. And then I'm also going to add some shows in Austin, Texas and stuff. I'm going to be there visiting my aunt and doing some shows. So go to my website, 4shaw.net. I do have a big show on June 19th at the Improv. It's called The Shawsham Show. This is past then.
Starting point is 00:07:53 The Doohickeys. Huh? This is past then. Yeah, but he's going to do it. So that show happened, and it was great. It was a fucking awesome show, bro. He's going to do more than that. The Doohickeys bombed.
Starting point is 00:08:00 The Doohickeys bombed, but don't worry. This Friday, the 28th, the music video and single for Reign It In, Cowboy, comes out for the world to hear. Why don't you just call it Reign It In? Well, the whole hook of the song is Reign It In, Cowboy. Reign It In's a great title. It's already dropping. Too late.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Too late. It's dropping, Jim. We're just Cowboy. IDCast podcast. Follow us on there. IDCast podcast. Please welcome our guest, Jeff Gibson. G'day, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:08:30 How you going, mate? Now it's time to play. Yes, though. Yes, though. Maybe. Yes, though. Judging a book by its cover. Jeff here.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Is it Jeff with a G or Jeff with a J? It's Jeff with a G. I love it Jeff with a G or Jeff with a J? It's Jeff with a G. I love a Jeff with a G. I'm a Jeffrey with a G originally. I know that. I looked you up. Like the giraffe, bro. Like the giraffe.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And all these Americans that fucking, that Game of Thrones fucked this over and everyone started calling us Geoffrey and all this type of stuff. And then there's a restaurant in Malibu that's called Geoffrey's and the cunt's from England because it's the English spelling, Geoffrey with a G, and I go there and they go, welcome to your Geoffrey's. And I go, I think the name is Geoffrey's. And they go, well, our boss is called Geoffrey.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And I met him and he's like, hello, I'm Geoffrey. I'm like, go fuck yourself, Geoffrey. Like, don't make it. You play into the stereotype.ff i i i love the you know i i've taken to the geoffness of it all everybody always calls me geoff that's something you just have to sort of grasp onto as a child you have to understand well it's an american thing as well but also the amount of people who just call you godfrey out of nowhere and you're like there's no fucking d what are you looking at and the part
Starting point is 00:09:45 of the reason I'm called Jim Jeffries is because the first time I went on stage they said please welcome Godfrey Nugent and I was like we have to fix this we have to fix this and then I was Jeffrey James for a day but then I didn't look illiterate then I tried Jeffrey with a J and I hated Jeffrey with a J and then I went all right Jim Jeffries and then that's my whole life now but um Jeffrey with a G good to meet you Jeff um all. But Jeffrey with a G. Good to meet you, Jeff. Yeah, it's great to meet you. All right. Now, Jeffrey with a G, you have a YouTube award behind you there.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So that means you've gotten a lot of hits. A lot of people watch whatever you do. Then you have either a small globe of the world behind you or that's the actual world and you're massive and we're all and we're all living underneath your rule let's go with number two all right so you're you're a god okay and then behind you you have a map of islands that i don't know if you've noticed is shaped like a cock and balls um yeah you can see it now once you see it you can't not see it. Yeah, but that's...
Starting point is 00:10:45 So the point of the cock's down in the bottom left-hand corner. I got you. Yeah, yeah. And then the hairy tree balls. That's a very unattractive penis. Maybe for you. Yeah, for you. You're straight.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You must have a fucking glamour boy down there. Forrest could be a penis model. You know how there's hand models? Yeah. I used to like Steve. What would a penis model You know how there's hand models Forrest Yeah I used to like Steve What would a penis model be used for Penis
Starting point is 00:11:08 Stuff Inputs like Like for decorating penis rings And stuff like that Advertising rulers Yeah you could You could You wanna ask Jeff some questions
Starting point is 00:11:15 About what he's here to talk about You could flop a watch over it Steve Steve Steve is Used to do a joke About how good looking His cock was
Starting point is 00:11:23 He said It's the only part of me that's good looking. It should be the photo on my passport. Anyway, okay, so you're a YouTuber who is interested in islands. You may run the world. You own, from what I can see, five books. No, six books. My mistake.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Oh, there's more on the other side there. Several books. Is your subject got to do with the entertainment business i mean i'm i do youtube stuff of course it's entertaining right right it's the it's the kind of entertainment right right is um it's not entertainment though we're not talking about okay because i know what these subjects normally are then we're history medical entertainment okay so is it history? Are you history? Not quite.
Starting point is 00:12:08 A little bit of history. It's a little bit broader than that. Okay. A little bit. Is what we're about to talk about a famous invention? Not really, though it is an invention of sorts. And in a way, I guess it's widely used. In fact, it's used by basically everybody on the planet. This affects you massively.
Starting point is 00:12:32 We were having to deal with it today. Yeah, oh, hymaphobia. Yes. No. No, it's pride month, Jim. No, this affects you, because of your profession, this affects you massively, what we're talking about today. Oh. And me. Oh, the invention of the chair.
Starting point is 00:12:47 What? Close, rug. The chair is a big deal. You did a segment on your show about this. On my TV show? On the Jim Jeffery show, yeah. Or the sitcom, or the show I have in my head. Jim Jeffery show.
Starting point is 00:13:01 On the Jim Jeffery show, we did a segment on this. Any proposal on how to fix it? Yeah, we didn't learn anything. You're just ranting about it. Here's how you fix it. Oh, slavery. No, no, no. No, good guess.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I did a routine on how to fix slavery. You did, you did. I've never recorded that. I've got to record that. You technically have recorded it. Ah, it's a desk bit, never as a stand-up bit. Jeff's name, Gio.
Starting point is 00:13:21 That's a clue. Gio, sort of a clue. Gio, computers. No, it's all around the world, that's a clue. Geo, sort of a clue. Computers. No, it's all around the world. Segments. Internet. Segments of the world.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Water. Take the world, divide them into segments. What would they be? Hemispheres. When you fly to Australia, what happens? Time zones. There you go. Time zones.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I understand time zones, and I don't understand time zones. Exactly. I'll tell you. Okay, where in the world has a half-hour time zone? I know. We're going to ask you the questions. You might know. That's one of the questions. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I saw the question was in there, and I said, you're going to get this one right. Out of line. Okay. Jeff Gibson is a geographer and former city planner. He has a bachelor's degree in geography and a master's in urban planning. He's always been fascinated by maps and the power they have to convey information in a spatial manner. His YouTube channel is Geography by Jeff,
Starting point is 00:14:14 and his podcast will be coming out in July. It's called Geography is Everything. Jeff, tell us a little bit more about yourself. You want to keep the G-E-O for geography by Jeff. That's much better. Yeah. Otherwise, you'd be good to have, if you're a J, you could do a podcast about Jumanji.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah. Anyways, Jeff, tell us a little more about yourself. I'm in a fun mood, people. Yeah, I kind of feel like I fell into this just with the name. It was sort of natural. It was meant to be geography by by Geoff, you know? Geo Geo. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Jack's gonna do a podcast with Jackfruit. Yep. That's how I hate it. Which is he's dragged it. No, I'm excited to be here. I think this is gonna be a lot of fun talking geography with you all, talking time zones. Yeah, I guess you already announced sort of my podcast
Starting point is 00:15:02 and my YouTube channel. Yeah. There's not really that much more you need to say about me to be honest. Yeah, I think I found you on announced sort of my podcast and my YouTube channel. Yeah. Not really that much more you need to say about me. Yeah. I think I found you on one of the other platforms too, maybe Instagram or something like that. Yeah, I think Instagram. If you like maps or times or any of this kind of stuff that's to do with like the maps or times or anything like that, you should follow him on any of the platforms.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Your videos are very well produced and made and obviously you have a YouTube award because of that. Yeah, basically Geography by Jeff everywhere. Yeah, it's great. Alright, cool. I'm going to ask Jim a series of questions about time zones and at the end of me asking those, you're going to grade them on his accuracy Jeff, 0 through 10, 10's the best Jack's going to grade them on confidence, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:15:40 grade them on how hungry I am and we're going to add those all together and at the end of that, if you score 21 through 30 total jim greenwich meantime ah yes i once got i once got mugged for a watch in greenwich wow that was my actual greenwich meantime yeah 11 through 20 greenwich nice time zero through10 Greenwich nasty woman time alright first question what is the purpose of time zones Jim the purpose of time zones is
Starting point is 00:16:11 basically so that we we all have the sun rise and the sun set on a similar type of thing so what's day for me is night for someone else so they have to be in a different time zone so that we're dealing for me is uh night for someone else so they have to be in a different time zone um and it's it's
Starting point is 00:16:27 so that we're we're dealing with the the stars and the sun and the moon at the same time as everybody else on the planet how did they come into existence um greenwich in england was where time is originated from and then they would have worked so that's where you start and then they would have worked you go an hour there you go an hour there i can't tell you who invented it or who who put it or anything or oh oh it would have been before the 70s put that as an answer before the 70s for a partial 1970s any of the 70s. Pick them. Okay. 2017. Well, okay. So let me think. Did they have time zones back 2,000 years ago with Jesus or did everybody just sort of...
Starting point is 00:17:13 Jesus time zones. Well, you know what I mean? Like people weren't really traveling internationally. So it was everyone just sort of like making their time sort of from there. I'm going to say that time zones came into play. I'm going to say that time zones came into play... I'm going to say... Okay, I'm going to say...
Starting point is 00:17:30 a thousand years ago. How many... That's not that long, and it is a long time ago. How many standard time zones are there in the world? Keyword standard. It may not be a keyword, I don't know. You're much slower at counting now. You may not be a keyword. I don't know. It's counting.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You're much slower at counting now. You used to be really fast. 24, 13, Joe. That's what I thought you were going to do from the beginning. Which country has the most time zones? Which country? Has the most time zones which country has the most time zones see there's an argument for australia but then um indonesia covers a long bracket of place and then russia's a massive fuck russia's big america's big but america china's big america I believe when you include Hawaii and Alaska, what is America? Why does China only use one time zone despite its large size? So they can do the 2.30 joke.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Everyone can do it at the same time when they go to the dentist. I don't know. Why does China use... do the 2.30 joke. Everyone can do it at the same time when they go to the dentist. Why does China use... Would it have something to do with communism and everyone gets the same amount of everything? What is the international dateline and why is it important? It was a small village where nothing much went on.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Sylvia was an inspiring dancer. That's Dateline. What about the international Dateline? Oh, it was a small village. Can you name a place that uses a non-standard time offset, like 30 or 45 minutes? That's South Australia, which is Adelaide,
Starting point is 00:19:22 and their time zone is about 40 years ago. Yeah, that blew my mind when I was there. I was like, 30 minutes? Yeah, because there's a comic. I don't know who it is, but I've heard that it's only half past three, but I don't care. It's five o'clock somewhere. And then the comic goes, well, it's not because everything's in an hour.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Everything's in an hour. Everything's in an hour, except for Australia. We're like, I think you'll find. Well, it says 30 or 45 minutes. You know where it's 45 minutes? Where it's 45 minutes. That would be, I reckon there'd be something around like Tonga or something. There'd be some island in the middle.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Because some of it, like an island in between New Zealand and Australia. I'll go Fiji. Why does Arizona not observe daylight savings time? Because it's fucking, it's all... What are those people going to do? What? They're just walking around the desert, hopefully. You know, like... Boredom?
Starting point is 00:20:13 What is Greenwich Mean Time? No, I like Arizona. You're all right. What is Greenwich Mean Time, and why is it significant? It's where time started. It's where we measure it from. It's in England, and it's where the clock is. And it's just we measure it's from it's in england and it's where the clock is uh and it's it's just outside of london what about coordinated universal time utc and how does it differ from
Starting point is 00:20:32 greenwich coordinated universal time is the time that we all agree on so that we don't have to get like mixed up by different time zones so that when you're going into battle or something like that in the military they have a coordinated time and they have their other time where they have to go, oh, 600 hours, so that I don't think that it's 6 o'clock at night or 1,800 time, 24-hour time, we call it 24-hour time. Which two U.S. states are in their own unique time zones? Hawaii and Alaska. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:00 What is the significance of the prime meridian in relation to time zones? Okay. What is the significance of the Prime Meridian in relation to time zones? David Koresh. What? The Branch Meridians. The Branch Davidians. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Were you in the car when I was with you? Yeah, I was with you. I was driving. Yeah, you were driving. Yeah, that's right. We went to the Branch Davidian place just to have a drive around. Very creepy. And there was just like a woman who was just dressed in those little House of the Prairie outfits just standing.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Carrying a baby. Carrying a baby. Just looking at her. She was like really. Was that a cult? Yeah. That was, you know, Waco. Waco.
Starting point is 00:21:36 The Waco thing. I don't know. We drove in on it. I don't think you're supposed to drive where we drove. Yeah, yeah. We went in to have a look. Me and him. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I'm telling you. Where is that it's in Waco it's outside of Waco it's like in the middle of nowhere Waco's famous for Dr. Pepper yeah
Starting point is 00:21:52 we were driving to Dallas and I was like we're in Waco let's go see where the Branch Davidians were Jim looked it up and got the GPS and where they bashed in the house
Starting point is 00:22:01 and all the things I've watched all the movies documentaries and fucking there's a few holdouts on that that cult that is still like going oh i'm gonna give it a go prime meridian any answer uh prime meridian the prime meridian well that's the question again what is the significance of the prime meridian do you know oh it can only it can only be devised by itself or another number. Yeah, got it.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Why do some countries have different time zones for different parts of the year? I don't even know. Oh, I didn't even know that. But I can guess an answer. Different parts of the year, different time zones. It would have to do with the lengthening of winter and stuff like that. So, you know, I imagine Iceland's only in the one-time zone, but it's one of those places that it never gets dark.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So if you could pick, like, another dark place, maybe even the Arctic. Well, there's a question coming up. Why... Oh, it's so Santa can get back at Christmas. Okay. What is the largest time difference between two countries? New Zealand to Australia is about 20 years apart i reckon okay um what's the biggest uh time difference
Starting point is 00:23:14 between two countries um i would say the biggest time difference between two countries is new zealand because new zealand's the first major country to ring in the New Year, right? Yeah. So Auckland is your first New Year's Eve of any major city. And then your last one would be Hawaii. Yeah, I think maybe Hawaii. I don't know the answer. Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:23:39 So I'm going to go America to New Zealand would be 23 hours apart. Okay. What's the deal with the time zones in Antarctica? What's the deal? All right, Seinfeld. What's the deal? Oh, why is it so cold? Oh!
Starting point is 00:23:54 You're cold. You know, it's daytime. It's nighttime. Who knows? So Antarctica, bottom of the world there. Okay. What's going on with the time zones there? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:24:03 I believe that the time zones just loop all the way around. Is it shorter? They think they don't go all the way around. Oh, sure. That's smooth. This is a real mind fuck. Okay. No, I reckon they'd be in the same ones.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I want to say as Australia, I reckon, lines up. I don't know. I'm going to say they're on Australian time. Can you name a city that spans two time zones? There's a city that's in two time zones. I know that. Okay, so what happens, there's some towns in Australia that one town goes into daylight saving
Starting point is 00:24:33 and the other town doesn't go into daylight savings because there's the Murray River that runs between the two states. There's two states being Victoria and New South Wales, right? And so the river, that's why you get a little watering line at the bottom of that. And so if you're a plumber, you'll have like two, three o'clock appointments. You know, you'll have one there, one there, because one doesn't do. So there are towns along the border of Victoria and thing, because they have different, but you're talking about like a major city, yeah?
Starting point is 00:25:01 Just a city. I don't know the answer to these. I'm not glad of the answers answers the city with two time zones yeah um um new mexico okay that's a state but we'll put that in there oh okay mexico then okay nailed it yeah great uh what is a time zone boundary and why might it change couple more questions there um uh it's like if you meet a time zone ask if you can hold a tan don't just go in there and then yeah kiss it before you finger it okay i don't know why i keep asking these i don't feel like you know what of these right. I want to warm it up.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Accept the time zone's boundaries. What's the history behind the term Zulu time? Ah, Zulu time. I could get in trouble here. This is going to be accurate. Steady. The history. Okay, so that's like back in the,
Starting point is 00:26:03 back like in like vaudeville. back like in like Vaudeville. There we go. Vaudeville. Yeah. When blackface was still a thing. Yeah. Not anymore. They'd call that Zulu.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I don't know. I'll get in trouble. Next question. Why does Newfoundland. Cut that one out. I'll get in trouble for it. Two more questions. Why does Newfoundland have a unique time zone offset?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Newfoundland. Yeah. Newfoundland does Newfoundland have a unique time zone offset? Newfoundland. Yeah, Newfoundland. Newfoundland. I get done for fucking vaudeville. Newfoundland. Yeah. And what are the people from Newfoundland called?
Starting point is 00:26:36 We're friends with one. Old Finlands. Newfies. Newfies. Yeah. I'm a Newfie, man. I know it's Newfoundland. I just didn't say it right. I'm not perfect. What about the Newfies? man. I know it's Newfoundland. I just didn't say it right.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I'm not perfect. What about the Newfies? We have the most famous lighthouse of all time. It's the most photographed by far. What about their time zone? Offset. What's unique about it? We have two more questions here.
Starting point is 00:26:58 They're still in the 90s. Okay. Have you seen? They're all just standing around listening to Pearl Jam with dreadlocks, those people. And what's the one band that they like up there? Tragically Hip. Yeah, that's it. Tragically Hip and Rush.
Starting point is 00:27:09 They're fucking mad for it. Last question. Hey, come to my show, me and Jimmy Carr. I love you people. Come see the lighthouse. Yeah, come see the lighthouse. Last question. What's the deal?
Starting point is 00:27:20 What's the deal? With daylight at the polls during the summer and winter. Daylight at the polls? It gives us longer time to vote. The North and the South Pole. Oh, wow. You should have said so. During the summer and winter.
Starting point is 00:27:36 What about them? What's going on with the daylight at the polls during the summer and winter? During the summer at the polls, it never gets dark. And during the summer at the poles, it never gets dark. And during the winter at the poles, it never gets light. North and south, it's the opposites. Oh, they move. All right. Jeff?
Starting point is 00:27:55 So the north is in the summer when the northern hemisphere is in the summer. And the south is in the summer when the southern hemisphere is in the summer and the south is in the summer when the southern hemisphere is in the summer and they alternate. Yeah, I feel like we're doing our Bitcoin episode. That's why Santa comes from the North Pole. This year, it's gone fast, very fast.
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Starting point is 00:31:21 This has been really fun. How did Jim do on his knowledge of time zones? Zero through ten, ten's the best. Sorry, for the very first one? No, no, for all of them as a group. You can't give him out a ten for each one. That would have been like, for the Arctic question, I'm going to give him a solid seven.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Overall, all the questions together, zero through ten. Overall, you're probably averaging around a six. Boom shakalaka. About time. That Adelaide's heavy lifting. What about confidence, Jack? He was confident, but he knew he didn't have the answers. So, eight.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm a world traveler. I know shit. I know shit. If you were to tell me about... I'll tell you what the biggest problem with time zones is. The airport's always serving breakfast. You don't know where I've come from. I'm not ready for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I just landed in your dumbass country at 6am, but I left at fucking 5 in the afternoon. It's time for dinner. And you want to give me fucking eggs again, do you? It's not egg time. It's not egg time. I can eat eggs at any time. I just don't want to be forced into it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 You don't like eggs. I like eggs, but you've got to have them. Wait, so around the world, have we agreed on eggs being breakfast? The whole world's into eggs being breakfast. Wow. Except for the people from Holland who are just like eating cheese with bread or some shit. We were in Malaysia. We were in Kuala Lumpur, and we had dumplings at Din Tai Fung.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah, that's good. Ding Tong Fung has no eggs. Yeah, but they- Although, they have fried rice with eggs. Yeah, they have fried rice with eggs, but that's the whole thing. You'd be a psychopath. Eggs in certain forms at breakfast. If you had an egg salad sandwich for breakfast, people would look at you weird, but then you
Starting point is 00:33:00 have a bit of toast with a fried egg on it. Perfectly acceptable. If you had scrambled eggs for dinner, you're a psycho. Ah, psycho. But if you had a fried egg on a burger or something, totally acceptable. That's fine, yeah. All right, I'm not that hungry, so a zero. Not even after the egg talk?
Starting point is 00:33:14 Total is 14. Greenwich, nice time. That's where you scored. Jeff, what is the purpose of time zones? Jim said we all have the sun rise and set at the same time. Stars and stuff. You almost got it directly on. It's basically just trying to align the noontime to noon
Starting point is 00:33:32 in any given geographic area, aside from a few different places, one specific country. But you were pretty much nailing it with sort of what you were saying earlier. Yeah, I knew that one. You knew that one. Because I know sometimes, like sometimes I'm out walking, and I look up and I go, fucking middle of the day.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Bloody hot. Shouldn't be out in the middle of the day. Not with my skin. Yeah. I thought there was going to be more story there. Not with my skin. How did time zones come into existence? Jim said.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Sometimes when I look up and I see stars, I go, not the middle of the day. How did time zones come into existence? Jim said. Sometimes when I look up and I see stars, I go, not the middle of the day. How did time zones come into existence? Jim said before the 70s. Didn't specify which 70s. And then he said 1,000 years ago. 1,000 years. Definitely not 1,000 years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:18 You're a little bit closer with the 70s. If you were targeting 1870s, that would be getting inside the ballpark range. Essentially, prior to time zones becoming a thing, there was this idea of local time, which is each individual town would have its own time. If you're in England going from here to 20 miles from here, they would have a different time. That was directly aligned with their noon, right? And so as transportation technologies got faster, noon right and so as the transportation technologies got faster they needed to basically coordinate how to create it so that trains were arriving to places at the same time
Starting point is 00:34:52 based on set schedules but the sundial is the same wherever you go so that really tells you the time right you put a sundial in in wherever you live and that'll tell you the time with pretty much with accuracy from the sun right so so that would just be what local time was, right? We're just dealing with the sun. I mean, vaguely. I mean, sundials are hard because the farther north you go or the farther south you go, the less accurate it's going to be based on the time of year because at wintertime inside the north, it's going to be much darker, right? So noon is not going to look like noon on a sundial necessarily.
Starting point is 00:35:27 But broadly, I think you're hitting on the core concept there. Yeah, yeah. And so you said train schedules. We did an episode on trains, and I want to say that the guy talked about. I think we did talk about it. About time zones, yeah. We did an episode on trains? Not too long ago.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I would say this year, probably, we did an episode on trains. We might have done it in my house. Nah, I think it was that time. We might have done it in your heads. We didn't have an episode. Trains are essentially the reason why we have these. Yeah. You said 18?
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'm sorry. It was in the 1800s sometime, or? Yeah, around the 1870s. Depends on the country. It wasn't uniform across the world at any given time. So England and the UK started doing something. Then the US started doing something. I believe 1879 is sort of the date marked for the United States.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Okay. So let's say like 1770, we've got Captain Cook sailing around the world on the Endeavour. And what time was he recognizing then? He probably wasn't even really noticing it, to be honest. Too busy killing natives? They would move at a decent clip, but it's still taking a long time to get from one point to the next where you might notice sort of a little bit of sluggishness
Starting point is 00:36:36 at the end of the day, but it's probably you're only feeling what amounts to maybe 45 minutes to an hour's worth of time loss on any given end. So my guess would be that they're not really understanding or feeling the time differences in the same way that we do because we move so much faster today. Now, did every country acknowledge time as a thing, right? So what I'm saying is we've had watchmakers, Swiss watchmakers and stuff,
Starting point is 00:37:02 hundreds of years making these things, which turns out they've been making these things since before time zones, like proper watches, right? So we've had time acknowledged for a long time. But say, did the Aboriginals have, did they go, oh, yeah, that's gunga gunga or whatever, like something one o'clock that means or two o'clock or did every native tribes in South America, did they acknowledge time? What I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:37:31 is it inherent in us to actually have a schedule from the sun? It is inherent that we've had, we've always, as human beings, we've always had a schedule adhered to the sun of some capacity. However, the way in which we measure times, right, minutes, seconds, hours, or with clocks, you know, minute hand, hour hand, whatever, that's something that's not always existed. In fact, there used to be a whole different manner of keeping time called a water clock.
Starting point is 00:37:59 That wasn't, when you think about it, you start to think about like an hourglass, but it's not actually an hourglass. It's just a completely different sort of invention. It's actually kind of wild to think about. Because what's a water clock? Describe a water clock for me. I cannot describe a water clock because I haven't seen one in person
Starting point is 00:38:15 and I've only briefly read about them. So I don't want to take a stab at it. You'd have to contact like a historian, like from basically an ancient Babylonian historian, because that's when they're from. I reckon my dad can tell time from his prostate, just from how many times he gets up in there. That would be his water clock. It'd be drip, drip, drip. It's one in the morning.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Fuck. How many standard time zones are there in the world? 24? Is that right? That is not correct. No, there are... I was actually surprised. I thought you would have gotten a little bit higher than this because you already knew that there was 30 minute offsets.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah, true. There are 38 time zones in the world. Yeah, I... Yeah, I didn't think about it. I knew there was those offsets. But I would have guessed like 28 or 38. So which country has the most time zones?
Starting point is 00:39:07 Jim said there's an argument for Australia, but then yelled out USA because of Hawaii and Alaska. Those were both great answers. They're both in the top five. The one with the most is actually France with 12, if you can believe it. But they're colonies of France and under French rule, but they're not actually France.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Like Mauritius. Mauritius. French Guiana. If we take out France because they're a colonizer and that's what they're doing, then that leaves us with Russia at 11 and the United States at 11 too. However, we would also have to remove uh the united states colonies so that would be russia yeah i thought russia was the biggest landmine wait what colony of the
Starting point is 00:39:50 united states is it like the virgin islands or something there though yeah there's guam there's the northern mariana islands there's americans obviously hawaii alaska the three times four time zones across the continental united states and then um U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. And soon to be Russia. Yeah. And why does China only use one time zone despite its large size? Jim said something about communism. Yeah, communism.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I mean, you basically nailed it. It's almost exactly because of communism. When the Communist Party took control in the mid-1900s, they essentially declared that everybody's going to use the time zone in order for national unity and to bind everybody together. Interestingly, time is very political in China. If you decide to use a much more local time, you could actually face some pretty harsh repercussions. Right, but you wouldn't have to show up to court on time because... I know, but that's crazy. You'd be like, it's 9 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Oh, I meant 11. Wait, so how many time zones would there be in China? Like probably five or six. It's only half past three, but I don't care. It's 3.30 somewhere. That's how the song sang in China. There would probably be four or five. Yeah, so on one side of the country,
Starting point is 00:41:08 it would be vastly different, the sun, and they'd be like, same time. All of their time is aligned to Beijing. So if you're in Xinjiang in the far west, you're waking up at, let's say, 8 a.m. in the morning, it already looks like it's afternoon to you. Hmm. Crazy. Yeah. But at least all the tellies at afternoon to you. Hmm. Huh. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah. But at least all the tellies at the same time. Yeah. That's true. Because sometimes there's a TV show, and the East Coast have already seen it. Don't look on Twitter. I don't want to find out who The Bachelor is.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Don't worry, they don't have Twitter there. I want to watch it live. It's me and the wife. And the Shady's Bachelor. Those fucking East Coast people people they get all the stuff i reckon your best time zone in america is is your west coast or pacific or whatever sports it is it's great for sports and it's also a big for me it's closer to australia and all this type of stuff there's things going on what is the international further away from australia what
Starting point is 00:42:01 is the international dateline and why is it important you jim just did some dateline do you want me to do it again no i mean it's exactly what it sounds like you cross over the international dateline you're jumping either if you're going west you're you're jumping back or you're jumping ahead in time you're going east you're jumping back in time uh i didn't know the answer is really not that important know. If you're an island country, if you have more trade with China or you have more trade with the United States, that might determine whether you want to be on one side or the other. For the rest of us, it's kind of, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:33 It doesn't matter aside from the fact that you lose a day when you travel. What about if you're Australian and you've gone over the international dateline 55 million times? I love it. I love it. I love the international dateline.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I actually did know this but I chose comedy okay you're welcome Australia but I I love the I hate the going to Australia and you lose a day
Starting point is 00:42:53 I hate the losing a day they always say you'll get it back and you're like no you won't no you do April 21st this year I was gone
Starting point is 00:42:59 I never it didn't exist for me I didn't have it it's gone it's true I love it I love the coming back and just like i'm gonna arrive back i had a trip recently where it was imperative that
Starting point is 00:43:10 i came back on the same day that i left or whatever like that and it was a joy but then the other way you lose a day that's not as much fun is it no never get it back there's i've been in australia now well i flew the other way one time. So five times I've lost a day. Never getting back. That day doesn't exist. Five days of forest life. RIP April 21st, 2018. Here's a fun fact about the international dateline.
Starting point is 00:43:35 It's not globally recognized. There's no global order that says that this is where it's going to be. It's just sort of how it came to be. And people sort of accepted it as a fact. And in fact, countries up to even a few years ago will switch sides, you know, at sort of how it came to be and people sort of accepted it as a fact and in fact countries up to even a few years ago will switch sides you know at sort of whim well you have to be close to it to switch sides like like like you know spanking no have you seen that if you look on google maps you can see the big uh curve out yeah it goes like hundreds or thousands of miles uh one in one direction and you do not have to be necessarily close.
Starting point is 00:44:05 You do have to sort of generally be in the Pacific. You can't be in the middle of Europe and say, hey, I'm going to be on the other side of the international daylight. So I guess it's like Fiji and those islands. They're always... I prefer to be at the beginning of the day rather than America's at the end. But I prefer being at the beginning, like Australia.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Because there's something they always feel good about, like we're having Christmas and the Americans havenicans haven't had it i always enjoyed that okay holding it over here can you name a place that uses non-standard offset like 30 or 45 minutes jim said adelaide um and then i'm about to tell you about la being like in the past or something where are their 30 and 45s all all of them? Tonga. Yeah. Newfoundland, that's one of them. We talked about that already. There's also Nepal.
Starting point is 00:44:53 It's 45 minutes offset between, and that's sort of situated between India and China. Yeah. 45. 45 seems weird. What's the point of that? Local traditions, local customs, you know, wanting to, you know, be unique. There's a wide variety of different reasons. Every country sort of makes a decision at some points
Starting point is 00:45:16 about where their time zones are going to lie. Whoa. What, okay, so if Greenwich is where the time is measured, that's an exact thing. Is there any other ones that for – okay, so are there places that are perfect in line with the sun and midday it's right above you? And then are there places that are way out? Like I'm not talking about like little tiny islands here and there. I'm talking about like big cities.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Like is New York off or whatever? Yeah, there are definitely places that are going to be off. In fact, here on the West Coast, our generally, and of course, this always depends on the time of year too, right? But generally, the closer you are to the West Coast. So in fact, if we look at all the major cities on the West Coast, I'm here in Portland, there's Seattle, San Francisco, LA. We are all offset a little bit based on what actual high noon is. So that generally when noon comes around, we are not sitting directly underneath the sun.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Someplace a little bit farther east is, maybe like 100 or so miles. I can't remember exactly where. Oh, so 100 miles east of the west is the thing oh that's interesting to know so i would that would be uh palm springs yeah maybe uh maybe a little bit farther actually maybe uh closer to death valley right yeah right so that's like that's like correct time you know that you know that town blithe when you're going over the border of arizona yeah max yeah that place right on time i'll tell you one night about a night i hadn't blithe a lot of sand they'll never find the bodies mate okay uh why does arizona not observe daylight savings time jim said what are these people gonna do boredom no i have i have a soft spot
Starting point is 00:47:03 you have shows there in November no I have soft spots for Arizona I actually like the southwest I find like cactuses and all that type of stuff I find it a very appealing aesthetic
Starting point is 00:47:12 and I like that turquoise stones they're all involved like a bolo oh I love a bit of that yeah I love that yeah I like
Starting point is 00:47:21 I can't imagine you with turquoise jewelry no but I like this I went into it oh god I was in Albuquerque for six weeks yeah a lot of turquoise jewelry. No, but I like this. I went into it. Oh, God. I was in Albuquerque for six weeks. Yeah, there's a lot of turquoise there.
Starting point is 00:47:30 There was a turquoise. I tried on a couple of bits. It did feel culturally appropriated. It did feel like I was. Turquoise is nuts. They were trying to sell it to me. That's what I always hate about cultural appropriation. You can't wear that.
Starting point is 00:47:43 It's cultural appropriation. But the Boku. No, no, no. Turquoise is my birthstone. You canh yeah but you know what i mean it was like that native indian like you'd get like a that blue stone and then like that silver bracelet with some you know yeah that's just jewelry though yeah but it's indian no that's that's off i think you're fine there i don't think that's cultural well maybe i didn't see it so maybe you're right but that's why that's what's the answer to the question? Why does Arizona not have their feelings? I feel like it's not cultural appropriation if they're selling it.
Starting point is 00:48:09 If they sell it, I'm allowed to buy it. If they're pushing it on me, it's fine. Because remember how... Okay, so my child's nanny is from Mexico, right? Very nice. We all know her. Very nice lady. And my son had a bear that...
Starting point is 00:48:23 My ex, Kate, bought this bear for Charlie. It had a little sombrero on it that said Mexico on it. It fit the bear's head and Charlie's head. Charlie walks around the corner and he's wearing a sombrero looking at me like this. I was like this, I don't know about this. I could get in trouble for this one. This one seems right on the brink here. Then Maria, the nanny, walks around and is just like,
Starting point is 00:48:47 doesn't Charlie look fantastic? And I went, all right, she put it on him. It's fine. If she put it on him, I'm good to go. Yeah, he's little too. Arizona, why did they not observe daylight savings time? Jeff. Well, so after World War I and World War II,
Starting point is 00:49:01 states could sort of decide whether they wanted to observe it or not. And Arizona, while they did adopt it briefly in 1967, they very quickly repealed it. So in 1968, they brought it back. According to a news article from the Tucson Times,
Starting point is 00:49:18 Arizonans simply figured that they already had enough sun and that they didn't actually need any more, as it turns out. So they get away with it. I think that's a fair thing because because for everybody else there's a lot a lot of time uh um daylight savings has a lot to do with uh people having their shops open for a bit longer farmers and things like this if you're living in the desert there doesn't seem to be much of a need for it really really. There you go. That's my two cents. All right. Thought I was sitting on something. And you kind of see that in countries that are more south.
Starting point is 00:49:51 No, we're okay. We're okay. Sorry, Jeff. Forrest is sitting something. When he stands up after the podcast, a big dildo might just fall out into the chair. We don't know. So what do you think he might be sitting on?
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm okay. I checked that. Sorry, Jeff. Go ahead. What were you saying? All I was going to say is you generally see that same trend as you get farther south, so like countries around the equator. None of them have ever really observed daylight savings time because what's the point?
Starting point is 00:50:15 You get 12 hours of sun and 12 hours of dark every single day. They hardly observe seasons. So you know what I mean? You go to some of these countries, you're like, what is this, winter? And you're like, sweaty, sticky air. I mean, it sounds like your answer was pretty close to the real answer. What else are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:50:33 What else are they going to do? They've got nothing. The movies are still open. What is Greenwich Mean Time, GMT, and why is it significant? Jim says it's where time started. It's where we measure it from. You nailed it. It's basically where all the other time zones are based off of.
Starting point is 00:50:50 It's where they drew the original time zone to be. Really, kind of, it was chosen because it was the home of the Royal Observatory, which, at the time, was considered to be the most accurate and precise time in the world. I always wondered that.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Why was it in Greenwich? Greenwich. I don't even know where Greenwich is. Is it somewhere in London? It's outside of London. Outside of London. It's like zone four or some shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And what is Coordinated Universal Time? I might be wrong there, sorry, but it's New London. Coordinated Universal Time, otherwise known as UTC, which that doesn't even make sense because the letters are out of order, but how does it differ from greenwich meantime and um jim says we all agree on this so we don't get messed up by the time zones yeah i mean it's it's basically the same thing right utc zero is the same thing as gmt which is also zero uh the only difference is that greenwich meantime is the actual time zone so you can say i'm from Greenwich Mean Time time zone if you want.
Starting point is 00:51:47 It's like a boundary. UTC, it's not actually a geographic area necessarily. It's kind of a wonky geographic terminology, for lack of a better term. Yeah. And which two U.S. states are in their own unique time zones? Jim says Hawaii and Alaska. Absolutely correct. You did two U.S. states are in their own unique time zones? Jim says Hawaii and Alaska. Absolutely correct. You did better than I thought.
Starting point is 00:52:09 You don't think I'm going to be able to pick Hawaii and Alaska? No, I know, but... I've traveled the world several times over and I live in America. You think I couldn't pull that one out of me ass? No. You forget a lot of things. What is the significance of the... Wait, is Alaska one time zone or is it multiple?
Starting point is 00:52:29 Alaska is its own time zone from Hawaii, yeah. It's different. It's so big, I thought maybe there was a couple of time zones. Time zones called holes. Oh, yeah, no, it's just one time zone. Yeah, they only have their own. What is the significance of the Prime Meridian in relation to time zones?
Starting point is 00:52:42 I don't think Jim... I don't even know what, I don't even know what prime meridian is, honestly. Yeah. The branch division. The prime meridian, it runs through Greenwich, just like the Greenwich meantime. And there's not really any significance to it.
Starting point is 00:52:57 A lot of people like to think of the prime meridian as the sort of equivalent to the equator, right? Because, you know, one runs north-south, the other one runs east-west. However, the prime meridian doesn't actually associate with anything other than just an area to establish the zero-zero point of latitude and longitude so that we actually have those coordinates.
Starting point is 00:53:14 It's all for our maritime naval stuff that happened hundreds of years ago. Why wouldn't the date... Okay, this might sound really dumb, but why wouldn't the dateline be next to Greenwich and then we would start next to Greenwich? And then we would start days from Greenwich being our... Yeah, that is a good question. I assume it's because then...
Starting point is 00:53:31 I assume then that would be because Ireland would be in a different day and they want to keep that all sort of because it's close. But what's the answer? So, yeah. So one of the reasons why the international dateline is where it is is because it's about 12 hours or you know roughly halfway around the world from where greenwich is and to your point you know when all this was being established europe was still heavily in control of the world um in some respects they still are and they weren't about to start carving
Starting point is 00:54:03 up the days that would make everything a lot more complicated to do trade and travel between them any more so than it already was. Yeah. There you go. That's a good question. Yeah. Why do some countries have different time zones for different parts of the year? I mean, that's, oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Well, I guess the simple answer is that it's just daylight savings time. It's basically in specific times of year, we all switch over to a different time zone. And some stay, right? So Arizona doesn't. And it's basically just to get more lights, you know, depending on sort of what time of year it is. Basically to conserve energy.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Do other countries do daylight sim yes Australia does daylight savings and America does daylight savings I assume Canada does something similar could and they don't do it at the same time no no it's so hard to schedule his radio and Australia's like okay cool now we're on a different daylight savings and then it's there there's always a bit where we go on daylight savings and they go off daylightings where the expansion gets either really small or really big all of a sudden. And I'm like, what happened to dad?
Starting point is 00:55:09 He's asleep. It's bloody 6 a.m. here. Fucking 6 a.m. What are you calling for? I thought you were doing radio. Because I thought you had interesting information for me, dad. What do you reckon I'm calling? Checking if you're dead or not, mate.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I do that three times a week. It's XAM. Good to know you're alive. Just checking in, mate. What information? I was still laughing about the Captain Cook thing, by the way. Why? Because you said something about Captain Cook.
Starting point is 00:55:46 You said, does he use time zones? And then Jeff started answering. He's like, probably just too busy killing natives. But I was looking there, and I just saw your head swivel here to see me. And it made me laugh. What's your three favorite time zones and why? What? Well, there's 38 of them right here 38 i'm saying pick three
Starting point is 00:56:08 no one could pick one jeff or me i'm talking to jeff okay you you know you only know three time zones you'll go this one because me watch is set to it you know my my three my my three favorite time zones are going to be the ones that are closest to me. So Pacific time, I think it's a great time zone. I'm located here on the Pacific Ocean. Banger, banger. Give it up for Pacific, man. We get one of those.
Starting point is 00:56:31 We get one of those. Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. Confetti's falling. I also have a soft spot for mountain time because I love the Rocky Mountains. I love visiting them. And I have a bunch of friends who live over there. And it's pretty easy to make that travel and then the final one would have to be um would have to be china's big old time zone because i just think it's so geographically fascinating
Starting point is 00:56:54 why they have that yeah yeah mountain mountain gets left behind in this country i don't even know it's always nobody thinks about eastern central and. And now you're like, whatever. Do you know the names of all 38? I don't know that. No, not off the top of my head, no. But let's test you. You think they all have names? Of course they all have fucking names. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:57:15 They're just called 1 to 38? That's what I would assume. Number 27. What's the name of the Perth, Western Australia? What's the name of the time zone I don't Perth yeah I don't know
Starting point is 00:57:31 I lived there for years I'm trying to look it up really quick West Coast this is 38 East Coast time Central here Perth
Starting point is 00:57:40 oh Perth's a pretty big one I can't click on this map I don't know it didn't occur to me Beijing, Hong't know. It didn't occur to me. Beijing, Hong Kong, Singapore. It didn't occur to me that they're all going to have names. Oh, wait, here we go. They have names of countries.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I got a list here on, what do you call it, Wikipedia. Here we go. Australia, Northern, here we go. Western, it's called UTC. I don't know. Different countries have different names. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:58:07 we have different countries with different names. Western Australia, then there's Brunei, China, Hong Kong. They don't name it like we do.
Starting point is 00:58:13 It's not as fun. we fucked it up. They just name it like that. That's the name of countries. I once, I've done this a couple of times. I'll tell you,
Starting point is 00:58:20 okay, so you fly from London to Cape Town, right? And it's a fucking long fucking- 12 hours. It's a long fucking flight. Same time zone.
Starting point is 00:58:29 You never leave. You just duck all the way straight down. And that's why I believe the number one sport in South Africa these days in pubs and stuff is the Premier League. People are mad for it because it's all the right time zone. There you go. What is the largest time difference between two countries? Jim said New Zealand to Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:58:51 So America. America. I mean, that was a really good guess. I think in terms of large countries, you absolutely nailed it. There's actually a couple of fun answers here. I think in terms of populated places, Samoa and American Samoa, which are very close to each other, are actually on the other side of the time zones. And they are about 24 hours apart technically, though in actuality, it doesn't feel that different because, you know, when you go from one to the other. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:59:18 The date might change, but the actual time of day isn't changing. The other one that's really fun is the Diomede Islands, which is a couple of islands in between Alaska and Russia. They are collectively called Tomorrow Island and Yesterday Island, respectively. That's actually the closest you can get in terms of land space
Starting point is 00:59:37 between two different countries that are actually completely on the opposite side of the international dat line. Oh, tomorrow and yesterday, Ireland. That's cool. That is cool. I bet they're not that excited.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Now, I've always thought my birthday's on Valentine's Day, but I think that when I live in America, it should be on the 13th of February, because your birthday should be from where you were born. It would be on the, yeah. Yeah. Well. What do you think about that? Well, it'd be good for you, because it sucks to have it on the... Yeah. Yeah. Well. What do you think about that? Well, it'd be good for you
Starting point is 01:00:07 because it sucks to have it on Valentine's Day. No, but I just think that's the thing. I think your birthday should fall in whatever time zone that you were born in. Otherwise, you're not that many years old. But then you should always be on that time. No, no, no. Wherever you're from, that's what time it is then.
Starting point is 01:00:19 No, for your birthday... Like, Jim, we have a podcast at 2 o'clock today. Your birthday should line up with the place of birth that you have. That's how you actually know that you're a full year. I'm a full year when it hits the 14th in Sydney, Australia. Well, if you were a person with just a normal job and you just were at a bar.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I wouldn't have time to think about things like this. No, no, no, no. That's what you would tell people at a bar. You'd be like, it's my birthday today. It's my birthday now. And they'd be like, when is it? February 14th. And then you'd tell them it's February 14th.
Starting point is 01:00:46 My birthday's on the 14th. I grew up in Australia. And they'd be like, that's interesting. And then I'd go, yeah, it's really interesting. And then I'd go, where are you going? Come back, pretty lady with forehead tattoo. Forehead? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I saw a lady with a forehead tattoo. On her forehead? Yeah. It's tough. What's the deal with time zones in Antarctica? What's the deal? So time zones in Antarctica are weird because it's the South Pole, right? If you look at a time zone map, they're all based on sort of wind sunrise and sunsets broadly within you know the habitable zones of our planet when we're going to get equivalent roughly equivalent amount of daytime and nighttime that obviously doesn't happen in antarctica because it's directly on the south pole and therefore there are time zones in fact there
Starting point is 01:01:41 are 10 time zones but they mostly align with where countries have different claims on the continent. And so, you know, there's some that align to Australia because they have some claims. New Zealand has some claims. Did you know Australia owns some of the South Pole? It's kind of weird and wacky, though. Did you know that?
Starting point is 01:01:57 What's that? Australia owns a lot of the South Pole. Congratulations. Thanks. What was that crackling? Is that us or is that? I don't know. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:05 What do you think, Aaron? Is that us or is that? I don't know. Oh, okay. What do you think, Aaron? Is that us? Does the North Pole and the South Pole, it stands to reason that they would be in the same time zone. Is that true? I mean, they could be. The problem, the difference is that there's no land necessarily up in, there's no land in the North Pole, right?
Starting point is 01:02:23 Right where the, exactly where the North Pole is. Therefore, there's no land in the north pole right right where the exactly where the north pole is therefore there's not really anything there's not really anybody actively tracking what what time is like up there the closest you can get would be northern greenland in theory they could be on the same time zone it just gets weird because that the way we've oriented our time is is based on um is based on where the sun is. And there's large parts of the year where both the North Pole and the South Pole either have all sun or no sun. Now, has anyone ever bothered to measure time and different time zones on the other planets? Because you would argue that they spin at different rates because of their size they are the days might be longer in certain planets plus you've got planets like
Starting point is 01:03:11 jupiter who's so fucking big they'd have probably they'd probably have 42 times yeah wow right but has anyone ever bothered to do that and should i do it there i mean if you look at like nasa for example has determined sort of what the average amount of hours a day is on mars they haven't as far as i know established time zones across mars they maybe they have but i i haven't heard of anything like that but they do know that you know mars you know has a rotation of i don't know amount of hours, and therefore a Martian day is that amount of time. We gotta get trains there. That'll fix it.
Starting point is 01:03:50 How long do you think a day is on Mars? How long do I think a day is? I have the answer. Mars is a bigger planet than Earth, or smaller? A smaller planet than Earth. But it's further away from the sun
Starting point is 01:04:08 i'm gonna say 14 hour days man it's 37 minutes longer than us ah mars i'm on mars my wife's on mars time she's always about that amount of time late what do you think we're on mars what uh we we were just talking about north and south pole the last question was what the deal with daylight at the polls during the summer winter and i don't even you hurt my head with this answer jim but what what are we going for there so we have more time to vote yeah that's not what I said. It would make sense, though. Yeah. Sorry, was there a question there for you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:51 It was the last question. What's the deal with daylight at the polls during the summer? Forrest had a stroke as he was asking. Oh. I mean, you nailed this one, Jim. We're on an axial tilt, right? And so, therefore, as we're spinning around the sun we're gonna we're gonna see more or less you know light at the poles because the earth moves
Starting point is 01:05:12 back and forth so forest has belittled me then he said jim answered something i'm not even gonna fucking bother with his answer because he sounds like a fucking idiot oh that's sad you never belittle me then we cut over to jeff over here and jeff's like this nailed it jim yeah yeah you're always so kind to me on the podcast so i definitely if you're right i i give i give credit where credit's due well you said belittling you you'd be oh i belittle but you're never gonna ask questions for a good reason, too thick. In my head? Yeah, I was saying brain. Physically, you don't have to say that, right?
Starting point is 01:05:50 We know that. Yeah, but that's not precluding me. And that's not belittling, that's be-bigging. I was just saying that. I just be-bigg'd ya. Mike Be-big-lia. Don't bring him into it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Can you name a city that spans two time zones? Jim said something about a town on the border of Victoria or new or regular Mexico. There's towns on the border of New South Wales and Victoria that have different time zones during Dalek Savings. Yeah. I mean, I don't know exactly that town, Jim, but I think you're nailing the exact concept. There's a bunch of cities here in the United States, for example, that do sort of ride the various time zones. And inevitably, you look at a city like Columbus, Georgia, which sort of exists on the border of Georgia and Alabama. It's the capital. Alabama
Starting point is 01:06:44 being inside the central time zone, Georgia being on the eastern time Georgia and Alabama. It's the capital. Alabama being inside the central time zone, Georgia being on the eastern time zone, and therefore its metro area, not the city itself, but its metro area is split between the two time zones. Why'd you say it's the capital? Just saying things now. Yeah, it's definitely not the capital. I used to do a comedy gig there.
Starting point is 01:07:01 What's the history behind the term Zulu time? Jim, do you want me to repeat your answer? I said something about blackface. I'll get in trouble. But Zulu time doesn't sound like it's a fun time. What's happened to Zulu time? It's a military thing. It's going with the phonetic alphabet that they use.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Oh, alphabetic kappa. the U.S. military, but I think broadly militaries all over the place, use a version of this. U.S. military can identify what time it is based on wherever their mission headquarters is. And so they have a very specific Zulu time that gets established. And so it's a whole military thing. I don't know too much about it but um yeah it's it's weird
Starting point is 01:07:45 it's military stuff when you're doing time do you read in 24 hour time or you're just a regular folk and do you say it's uh half past 12 or do you do you say it's 245 or do you say it's a quarter to three well i use actually it's funny i actually use 24 hour time personally um actually, it's funny. I actually use 24-hour time personally, which is not super common in the United States. And I would say 2.45, not quarter to three. Wait, why AM, PM? And what does AM and PM stand for? Oh, I thought that was just a gas station. Oh.
Starting point is 01:08:18 After midnight, post-midnight. Is that what that is? Pre-midnight, after midnight. What is it? Am I right? No, I don't think so. I believe it's Latin. I actually don't have the answer off the top of my head.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I think it's pre and after. I don't think so. After midnight and pre-midnight. It's anti-meridian and post-meridian. Yeah, post and the meridian is Latin for midnight. Before midday and after midday. Before and after midday. But I got the gist right, didn't I?
Starting point is 01:08:49 You had the gist right, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Post midday. Half a point. And after midday. 6.5 points. Yeah. Last question.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Why does Newfoundland have a unique... He works for AMP. Yeah, I know. Tungus. Tungus. They really gave Tungus a go there for a while. He's the mascot, yeah. Yeah, Jeff,, I know. Tungus. Tungus. They really gave Tungus a go there for a while. He's the mascot, yeah. Yeah, Jeff, do you know about Tungus?
Starting point is 01:09:09 Tungus? I don't know about Tungus. Okay, so we have a lot of Australian listeners who don't know about Tungus. Put a picture of Tungus up on the screen. Oh, there you go. AMPM is a, like... It's a gas station. It's a gas station.
Starting point is 01:09:19 It's like a 7-Eleven. The 7-Eleven. Do you know why 7-Eleven was called... They have a Dodger Stadium, even. Do you know why 7-Eleven Is called 7-Eleven That was the time it was open That was the time it was open And people thought
Starting point is 01:09:28 And when they did that They went No one will ever be open Longer than this Yeah yeah This is This is the longest Any shop
Starting point is 01:09:35 Has ever gonna be open We're gonna open At 7am And close at 11 Yeah This is gonna be 8 fucking hours in the day When we're not open
Starting point is 01:09:43 No one will ever expand On 7 to 11 and not even us yeah you're not even us and then they became like the first 24 hour place and then amp and went oh we're not going to get stuck out here we'll just call it amp and then they can adjust their hours and they sell shit food right they just sell like shit food like 7-eleven stuff that's cooked in a little fucking toaster oven behind them. And a roller and things that just have their hour of date changed on them every few hours as they sit there. And there's Tungus. Now, Tungus. The mascot.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Tungus is made up of cancerogenic, carcinogenic foods. He's got cinnamon rolls for palms. He has cinnamon rolls for palms. Yeah, cinnamon rolls for palms. His stomach is all pretzels and crisps. He has a couple of fucking... He's got hot dog tits. Hot dog tits. Yeah, hot dog tits.
Starting point is 01:10:33 And his neckline is donuts. He's got a beard made out of Cheetos. And his hair is made out of red vines. He's got a cheeseburger nose. Yeah, cheeseburger nose. Cheetos beard. Cheeseburger. And then he's got like, yeah, he's got a milburger nose Stickers, eyebrows Cheetos, beard And then he's got like He's got a milky way bar eyebrows
Starting point is 01:10:49 And Tungus stands for Too much good stuff That's what his name comes from Too much good stuff And he's built of too much good stuff If you ate Tungus You're not long for this world If you're on the tungus diet
Starting point is 01:11:07 you could even his face if you ate tungus in one sitting you die you fucking joey chestnut couldn't eat tungus i've never i never i never stare him. His arms are just sodas. If you're listening at home, I know if you're watching this on YouTube, you can see it. You should listen back to this and pull up a picture of Tungus. Google a picture of Tungus. And he looks like he'd give you a hell of a hug.
Starting point is 01:11:37 But I'll tell you the worst thing about him. I'll tell you the worst. You'd have frosting all over you. You don't want Tungus to come over to your house. You'll get ants. Tungus' house has ants. Up the wands. Tungus has ants.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Tungus has ants. Tungus' wife lost a foot to diabetes. Well, her foot is diabetes. Just giving blowjobs. With your tootsie Roll He hasn't got a big dick Well it was big Tootsie Roll
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yeah it was a big one Then she kept giving the blowjobs Oh yeah He would have a Twinkie dick What's hanging underneath These fries He's just got like Little bits of fabric
Starting point is 01:12:18 Underneath They just Someone didn't finish The project Oh he's got cups for arms Yeah he's got soda arms Alright We gotta finish the questions Why does New he's got cups for arms, too. Yeah, yeah, he's got cider arms. Alright, we've got to finish the questions here. Why does Newfoundland have a unique time zone
Starting point is 01:12:28 offset? Jim said they're still in the 90s. Tragically, yeah. It's not because they're still in the 90s. It's actually because if you look at a map of Newfoundland, sort of an island, sort of very far east, most of their population is located in St. John's,
Starting point is 01:12:44 which is actually almost directly south of greenland i have a story about this place it didn't make a lot of sense for them to align closer their time didn't make a lot of sense for their time to align closer to something like eastern time or or the the other time zones in in canada so they opted to go for a half hour offset to sort of bridge the gap a little bit. So you say St. John's? St. John's. Okay, so there's St. John's and St. John, right? And they're both on the west coast side-ish.
Starting point is 01:13:15 The east coast side of Canada. And my agent at one stage just booked me in both towns thinking they'd be close that i might be the only person who's ever made the trip is that like didn't you have to do like four puddle drummers yeah four puddle drummer there is no bigger cunt of a ride on this earth than saint john's the saint john no one has ever done it yeah there was there was people there was people at the airport who thought that I had a mistake on my ticket
Starting point is 01:13:47 going, oh, you're already in St. John's. You understand, right? And I'm like, no, I want to get to the other one. And they looked at me like, why? I'm looking at it right now. It's close, but it's impossible to get between these two places. I just tried to put it in Google Maps and it said, no, you mean St. John's. I just did it right now. St. John's and St but it's impossible to get between these two places. You know what? I just tried to put it in Google Maps, and it said,
Starting point is 01:14:05 no, you mean St. John's. I just did it right now. St. John's and St. John. Yeah, I know. St. John. There we go. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a nightmare.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Don't do it. You can get around the world faster. I'm telling you, you can get to Australia faster than St. John to St. John's. Now as a part of our show called Dinner Party Facts we ask our guests to give us a fact or a fact, something obscure, interesting that they can use to impress people about this subject
Starting point is 01:14:35 What do you got for us, Jeff? Yeah, I think this one's really fun So I actually pulled together two but I'll give you one I think So astronauts, right? We're humans, we go up into space fun um so i so i actually pulled together two but i'll give you one i think so astronauts right we're humans we go up into space not me but obviously other people uh they don't know right they don't have a normal time and so what they end up following is um basically what
Starting point is 01:15:00 whatever time their their mission launches and so that's sort of how they align their clocks because obviously up in space, there's no sunrise or sunset in the same way that we have down here on the planet. Hmm. Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that. Space time. Sometimes when I do international travel
Starting point is 01:15:17 and I'm normally going to be in a country for a day to do like a gig and then flying in and flying out, I just stay on my other time. So I'm basically a spaceman yeah pretty much that's cool you said you had two you could do the other one we have time yeah the other one i think was also pretty interesting which is uh in the early 1900s when time zones were becoming a thing here in the united states were actually becoming adopted as a thing uh the united states still had four uh time zones across its sort of contiguous landmass.
Starting point is 01:15:47 However, there were a couple interesting deviations. So, for example, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, and Michigan, all part of the eastern time zone today, were actually part of central time back in the 1900s. uh and then in the west coast uh southern arizona in new mexico so there's like a long strip of land that sort of bordered the mexican border uh all the way almost to texas were part of the pacific time not mountain time and so if you went north you know 100 miles you'd be in mountain time but otherwise you're in pacific time with la do you i i i believe that like the america shouldn't call the midwest the mid Midwest because it's only west of the east. Yeah. It's not even near the middle.
Starting point is 01:16:30 It's east of the middle, and I believe that the Midwest should now be called the Middle East. Thoughts? Who are you asking? Jeffrey. The world. He's the specialist. The Midwest should be called the Middle East.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Well, yeah, maybe. You know, place naming is a difficult thing for geographers to tackle because there's so much culture that goes into it, right? It's like history and culture and sort of what people align with. You know, at the time, it was the Midwest. Yeah. You know, that's why there was like the northwest territory that's why northwest college is up in chicago is because at one point that was the northwest oh if we're just going to change things then i'm going to call the southern hemisphere the northern hemisphere we're just making things up there all right don't be
Starting point is 01:17:20 crazy all right settle down um jeff gib, thanks for being here. The YouTube channel is Geography by Jeff. As we noted at the beginning, that's with a G, G-E-O-F-F. The podcast will be coming out in July. It's called Geography is Everything. And by the way, not just a YouTube channel. On any social media platform, you said it's Geography by Jeff, correct? I can find you on there. That is correct. Yeah. And sorry, really quick correction, and I didn't catch this before, but the podcast that's coming out soon is Around the World with Jeff. My other podcast that I already currently have is Geography is Everything. Sorry. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:54 So Geography is Everything is out now. You have Geography is Everything and Around the World with Jeff. You don't have one called Geography with Jeff? Well, I have Geography by Jeff. That's my YouTube channel. Oh, that's his YouTube. Okay. All right. If you put in Geography and Jeff. That's my YouTube channel. Oh, that's his YouTube. Okay, all right. If you put in Geography and Jeff, he's coming up.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Geography, Jeff, and Google, you're going to find me. I have one called Jerk Off with Jeff. And I spell jerk with a G-E-O. But if you're into maps and time zones and stuff, I'm telling you, Jeff does a really great job at putting together clips and videos and stuff. It's really interesting. And I'm really into maps,
Starting point is 01:18:32 so I'm assuming we'll probably have you back at some point if you want to be back on a maps episode. So remember, that's what we'll talk about next time, Jim. Maps. You'll be able to guess it as soon as you see Jeff. I'll know about that. All right, thanks, Jeff. Thanks, mate.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Appreciate it. Thanks, everyone. If you're ever at a party and someone says that there's no time zones with 45 minutes go i don't know about that and walk away good night australia

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