I Don't Know About That - Universal Basic Income with Andrew Yang
Episode Date: October 27, 2020In this episode, the team discusses Universal Basic Income with entrepreneur, philanthropist, and former 2020 presidential candidate, Andrew Yang ( @Andrew Yang ).See omnystudio.com/listener... for privacy information.
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We're all here.
Luis, Jack, Kelly, Forrest. We're all here. You know the difference is Jim Jeffries. Welcome to I Don't Know About That with Jim Jeffries. We're all here. Luis, Jack, Kelly, Forrest.
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I don't know about that.
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Hello, my name is Bobby Cheeseburgers.
I said to Forrest before we went on, I said,
I want to talk about a TV show that I watched last night.
And he goes, yeah, but this podcast is coming out three weeks later. And so we watched the baseball last night. So I want to talk about a TV show that I watched last night. And he goes, yeah, but this podcast is coming out three weeks later.
And so we watched the baseball last night.
So I want to talk about that.
But fucking Jansen.
I hope he's fired by now.
Or we've either won the World Series by now or Jansen's fucked it up.
This podcast will probably be out during the World Series, I would think.
Fucking Jansen.
Anyway.
I'm not sure.
Who knows?
If we won the game and still fucking Jensen I like the guy
but fuck me
you don't even have to say
which game
you can just keep saying
fucking Jensen
because people will be
on board with you
yeah people know
what I'm talking about
I watched a documentary
yesterday
that I found
I'm a little bit bored
of
and it's probably
because I'm in the industry
of documentaries
about stand up comedy
I think there's too many of them
I know there's one about the comedy store and people are saying it's very good I haven't been watching it because I'm in the industry of documentaries about stand-up comedy. I think there's too many of them.
I know there's one about the Comedy Store and people are saying it's very good.
I haven't been watching it because I've seen the history of comedy,
the Comedy Store, the thing.
It's fucking fantastic. I'm laughing, I'm this, I'm dying, I'm dying, I'm standing up,
I'm falling down.
All these things, these different documentaries.
I've been in several of them, right?
And it's like I just feel like with comedy now,
we've gotten to the point where let's stop talking about it.
Let's just be funny.
That's why I didn't do a podcast where we interview comedians all the time.
Right.
Because I'm sick and tired of hearing us talk about fucking jokes
and how we ride them and how hard it is in the road
and all that type of stuff.
And then we have a couple of funny stories.
They're fine, but there should be like three of those documentaries.
There's like 20 of them now, right?
And I don't find them inspiring anymore
because I think that we talk about stand-up comedy
in a too magical way.
Like, oh, we went to the comedy store
and I remember you had to line up
and if Mitzi looked at you, all that type of stuff.
It's a pretty simple job.
You think you're funny,
you find places to stand up in a corner,
and you tell jokes,
and then the corner gets bigger and bigger.
Yeah, but you're essentially the subject
of these documentaries,
which is why they're not magical to you.
But for the rest of us who are fans...
I know.
Serial killers aren't tired of watching
serial killer documentaries, too.
I bet they are.
I bet you...
I get it.
You get a body,
you stuff it in a barrel, you put acid in it. I've done a job, but I don't want to be in a body you stuff it in a in a barrel you put acid in
you kept it in his freezer hack oh good pun because i always think
i always think that about like ted bundy when they're like oh he was super smart he was a
fucking moron ted bundy he was a more how he away? The police were stupider, which is a word, right?
Yeah, sure.
He's by stupider people.
Yeah, they were stupider because what happened was they just didn't ring each other.
All he did was drive to different towns.
But when he was murdering women, he was walking up to them going,
Hi, I'm Ted.
He didn't even change his name and he drove the same car.
And even when the police found out, they go, it's a Volkswagen Beetle.
He didn't get rid of the car and get himself a same car. And even when the police found out, they go, it's a Volkswagen Beetle. He didn't get rid of the car
and get himself a new car. He kept
on murdering, calling himself Ted
in a Volkswagen Beetle. He didn't change
the paint job. He did fucking
nothing. It's Johnny Cash's intro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hi, my name is Ted.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Stab, stab, stab.
So I watched a documentary. There's one on Netflix
at the moment about Dolly Parton.
I like Dolly Parton.
It was one of the most inspiring documentaries I've ever seen.
It's on Netflix?
It's on Netflix.
What's it called?
It's called Dolly Parton, Here I Am.
It's catchy.
It's called Here I Am or something like that.
And it's just like she really, in my mind, pulled the,
what do you pull over our eyes? The wool. The wool. The wool over our eyes. she really in my mind pulled the the
what do you pull over
our eyes
the wool
the wool
over our
because
everyone thought
everyone thought
she was like
this stupid
ditzy blonde
and it's
it's so
it's so much
just a character
that she has placed
and I also like the way
she got married
she's been married
for 50 years
and there's like
one photo of her husband
oh really
and then you know
you tried to fuck Jolene.
You know, that song was written.
You know, he got in trouble for that.
Oh, is that what that is?
That's a great song.
I never really listened to the lyrics.
Yeah, she was on the road and...
Jolene, I'm begging of you,
please don't take my man.
I don't listen to...
All I know is Jolene.
And like the only part I know.
Oh, no, no, you're beautiful
and darling in hair
and please don't fuck my man.
That part would have been that giveaway.
Yeah, but she's in there.
Basically, right?
But anyway, some bank teller that she was on the road or whatever.
But anyway, so the lady wrote so many songs and she has such a lovely disposition.
And I want to give a shout out to Dolly Parton, if you're listening.
If you're listening, get Dolly Parton on the bloody podcast.
I love Dolly Parton.
I think she's fantastic.
What will we talk about with her?
Dolly Parton, the life and times of Dolly Parton.
Oh, big tits.
Expert in big tits.
There's things like, you know, she has tattoos on her arms.
She keeps them covered.
She's like a different person.
She puts the wig on. She puts the wig on.
She puts the makeup on.
And then she's that character.
And she just steps out.
And then at home, she's just banging her husband covered in tats.
And she might be bald.
Who knows?
Have you been to Dollywood?
I haven't been to Dollywood.
I want to go to Dollywood.
It's in Pigeon Forge.
Tennessee.
Right in the Smoky Mountains.
She comes from like a hillbilly.
And then you forget, like, when she was in her 20s and stuff, yeah. She comes from... Right in the Smoky Mountains. She comes from like a hillbilly... And then you forget like when she was in like her 20s and stuff, stunning.
She was stunningly beautiful.
She's still hot.
She's still...
For like...
How old is she?
She'd be in her 70s, late 70s.
Let's see.
Let's see.
This is Dollywood Wikipedia.
I can tell you how old that is.
She is 74.
I mean, she's still a babe.
She'll be president.
She's 74 years old.
She looks very plasticky now, but she
acknowledges that. She has a lovely disposition.
She's funny. She could do
stand-up, you know. Like, she's telling jokes on stage
in between songs. She's that funny.
There's recent news. Dolly Parton
is open to posing for Playboy to celebrate
her 75th birthday.
Yeah? She's gonna get naked?
Yeah.
Alright.
Didn't she have a movie last year called Dumplin' or something? Yeah? She's going to get naked? Yeah. All right. All right. All right.
Didn't she have a movie last year called Dumplin' or something?
She was in a... That was Jennifer...
It had something to do with her.
She had a TV series on Netflix where each one of...
Because all of her songs are stories.
She has this song about a woman committing suicide off a bridge
called The Bridge, which is just like...
And she goes, and this is where I'm going to end to end it then the song cuts because she obviously jumps off the
bridge and kills herself and she's like pregnant when she does it because she recently came out
and people got upset over i forget what she said there was something i think it was social it was
like black lives matter or something yeah she it was definitely a surprise to her fans to find out
that she was more liberal like they were like what the fuck is this this is the
thing she won't say anything about politics because she doesn't want to alienate anybody
she did though isn't she yeah yeah but she's always with the um you know songs she's a feminist
person who women's rights and all that type of stuff and just because i'm a woman i shouldn't
be treated as bad as a man and these are lyrics that she says right and then they ask her in
interviews and she's like well i just want to make everybody happy and blah blah like that right and then i remember like her and
lily tomlin and jane fonda got up and they and they were like uh they're like we did nine to
five it was about a misogynistic blah blah blah and trump was running for president and they went
and it's more poignant today than ever and then like like dolly was like this well we have an
award to give out yeah yeah because jane fond Jane Fonda is like super, super activist.
Like she's a badass at the forefront of all these things.
And so Dolly Parton probably was like, I don't want to lose all of my fans right now.
Well, Jane Fonda talks a lot in this documentary.
The thing about the old Dolly is, right, it's like everybody meets and says she's high.
The last line in The Office, the last line in The Office is one of my favorite lines in TV history.
And it's Ricky Gervais looking down camera,
and he's just gotten that date, and he's all happy.
And there was one up point for David Brent.
And he goes, to get the rainbow, you need the rain.
He goes, you know what philosopher said that?
Dolly Parton.
And you thought she was just big tits.
Dollywood looks fun. you thought she was just big tits. Dollywood
looks fun. Nine roller coasters,
two water rides, 50 rides total.
Yeah, yeah. No joke.
Yeah, no joke. You can go to Dollywood and have a hell of a time.
Where is it? What country?
What town? Tennessee. Pigeon Forge, Tennessee.
It's in the Smoky Mountains.
Hey, my management, if you're listening,
you're not.
But if you are, get me a gig near Do mountains hey my management if you're listening you're not but if you are
get me a gig
near Dollywood
Jack you're listening
send an email to management
there's not a lot of cities
near Dollywood
dear manager
you'd have to go to
like North Carolina
or even Nashville
if you're in Nashville
you could drive down there
it's a little bit of a drive
how many
a couple of hours
from Nashville
I think so
I've driven by it
a couple of times
I've never gone
bus tour
okay alright you mean all of us going on a bus tour from Nashville? I think so. I've driven by it a couple times. I've never gone. Bus tour.
Okay.
All right.
You mean all of us going on a bus tour?
Let's get to our next segment.
I just want to have a shout out.
So if people can contact Dolly,
if you know Dolly,
if you're there,
I want Dolly on the show.
I'm a big fan.
That would be a great guest for me.
I'd like to talk to Dolly Parton.
Okay.
All right, we're on it. I can't wait for that to happen.
We're manifesting dreams this year.
She reminds me of my ex, Kate.
They're the same thing.
They come from small towns, and then they were like glittery people and all that type of stuff.
But I feel like I can relate to that lady.
Knoxville, Tennessee is where you'd want to go.
Pretty close.
Smaller city than Nashville, but you could still gig there.
Is that where the volunteers are?
I think that's maybe. Yeah, there is that where the volunteers are I think
that's maybe
do you reckon you ever see Dolly just
walking around Dollywood she's ever just on a water
slide or maybe
I don't know though I don't think so
I like that you took that
question seriously
back in the day her and Kenny Rogers
were sitting in the restaurants
we just want to be left alone sorry having a meal Maybe. Back in the day, her and Kenny Rogers were sitting in the restaurants.
We just want to be left alone.
Sorry.
We're having a meal.
All right, Jack.
It's time for Jack's segment.
What segment do we have today?
I know about that.
Wait.
Maybe. No, it's now I know about that.
Okay.
Now I know about this.
I know about that now.
Maybe.
Now I know about this.
We're thinking of buying an extra camera so that there can be a camera on Jack.
People have requested this.
I don't know why.
It's me.
Do you want to be on a camera?
You want to be in shot?
Right now?
Yeah.
No, I'm fine.
All right.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think we've only done this one other time.
I'm going back to look and see.
I think it was Now I Know About This or That. Maybe. We've gone through a couple different titles. Now I Know About This, That, I think we've only done this one other time. I'm going back to look and see. I think it was Now I Know About This or That.
We've gone through a couple different titles.
Now I Know About This, That, and The Other.
Just change it every week.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Anyway, this week is Olympics, and our expert was Mark Dyrus.
What episode was that?
The Olympics episode.
I don't know.
I have it right here.
The Olympics was six, our was like five or six six
our sixth episode
Mark Dyrus
alright first question
why were the Olympics started
the Greeks were up to no good
they were up to no good
trying to make trouble
in their neighborhood
they had one little Zeus
and he got mad
and they said
you live through your boulder
above your head dad
wow
is that the fresh prince
of Athens?
The fresh gods.
Yeah, I forgot about that. Why was it started?
To please the gods.
And they all ran naked.
Yeah, we knew the naked bit.
So that they could be as close
to God looking as possible.
Yeah, we'll never forget the naked bit.
Because God likes to wibble wobble as he runs.
Like, have you ever seen
a naked person run?
I know.
It's like,
I want to see that
dong flapping.
Let's go.
Why would we do that?
When you're naked,
you try to be as still
as possible.
Well, even a woman,
like boobs are flatter.
It's like,
it's not good.
Not practical.
A lot of flapping.
There must have been
really good athletes then.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There was some porn star
who died okay got hit in the head with his own thing yeah uh what do the five different colors
of the rings mean uh they're each one of those colors are in each flag in the world each flag
has at least one of those colors and the five circles were the continents bingo
Also included is the white background that the rings go on that sounds like the sixth color that was you learned that
Retain the knowledge. I remember you got that one wrong. That's what this podcast is all about
It's a good one to remember. I forgot about this. I forgot about it. I knew the answer, but I remember you got it wrong
I did get it wrong, yeah.
And I guess just to be very clear,
those colors made up every flag that existed in 1915.
So it's possible a flag came in and has different colors now.
Oh, yeah, that new purple color.
Yeah, magenta.
Who's coming in with it?
Someone might have blew it.
I still think they have.
I think it still works, but I'm not sure.
Egg shell.
Yeah, lavender.
Coral. Coral.
Teal.
How did the Olympic torch tradition start?
Oh, the Nazis.
The Nazis, it started in Berlin.
It was one of the Hitler's type of things.
They thought, we'll have a torch and we'll run it around.
Then we didn't have the Olympics for a while a while i can't remember why but they they retained
having the torch yeah england was the first one to have the olympics after that they were like
48 i think yeah when they came back yeah yeah and they were like let's keep this nazi thing
the berlin olympics that's another one you learned yeah there. It was the 1936 Berlin Olympics. I'm trying to act like I fucking knew in the year.
I'm just adding to the information.
Alex Trebek.
I'm adding to the...
Sorry, you didn't say who it is.
What is Jack being a dickhead?
What is that doesn't hurt my feelings?
What is that's a lie?
What is I'm crying?
That's why we don't put a camera on him.
He's mostly crying.
He can't take the abuse.
What is starting a lawsuit?
What is I have lettuce?
That's an in-joke.
Yeah, what is an inside joke?
I really enjoyed that one.
I just added information for that.
The Nazis wanted to tie the torch back to ancient Greek tradition.
So they were trying to paint it off like it's ancient Greek tradition.
But now we're promoting the Aryan race.
Right.
Okay.
They tried making it historical, but they're liars.
Yeah.
What shady shit did North Korea do during the 2018 Pyeongchang Olympics?
What didn't they do?
During the 2018?
They're not allowed to compete.
But what shady shit did they do?
Yeah, it was in South Korea, the Olympics.
Oh, what shady shit did they do?
Pyeongchang.
Yeah, Pyongyang's north, Pyeongchang's south.
They stood on the border and did the chicken dance.
Close.
They sent in sex spies.
Ah, sex spies.
I remember the sex spies.
Yeah.
What'd they do?
they would go have sex with people so they'd be tired
for the next day
and some people were drugged
ah yeah that makes more sense
tired is like
ah I've been having sex
with this
North Korean woman
all day
I can't pass up that experience
who knew Bill Cosby
was North Korean
what's out of the drug can't be like hey Cosby was North Korea.
Can't be like, hey,
don't do it.
Kim Jong-un.
My last question is,
what did the 1932 Olympics add to the Los Angeles iconography?
It was palm trees. We had palm trees added to the
city and they were added
in other Olympics that happened since. We're getting the Olympics again. We might get more palm trees. 88 palm trees added to our city and they were added uh in other olympics that happened since we're getting the olympics again we might get more palm trees yeah 88 but yeah that
was our that was our that was a dinner party fact i learned three things yeah you retained them yeah
it's pretty good it's pretty good yeah you do about that mostly no he does still know about
whatever the name of the segment is the olympics no no i do know about that now maybe then this episode is
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Please welcome to the show Andrew Yang.
All right.
Do the questions.
I think it's Andrew Yang.
I always give you that. I always give you that.
You really blew it there, Forrest.
He always says their name.
I always say their name, but I'm sure you know who Andrew Yang is.
I know who Andrew Yang is.
We talked about Andrew Yang on the Jim Jeffery Show.
Yeah.
I know who he is.
He ran for president in 2016 and in 2020 in the primaries.
2016?
Uh-oh, off to a bad start.
Is that right?
Yeah, 2016.
Yeah, he was in 2016.
Yeah, 2016 and 2020.
Did you run for president in 2016?
That's when we were on the...
Definitely not.
I'm not sure it wasn't Aaron yet.
What was the...
It was the primary because the elections are so long now.
It was two years ago.
Like they started...
We started...
Or like a year and a half ago
that they started...
It was all the Democratic...
So just for 2020.
...possible nominees.
Okay, so it was just this one.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
We're already blowing it.
It feels like a long time.
It does feel like 10 years ago.
It is.
Universal income?
Close.
Yeah, it's pretty close.
A thousand bucks a person
or two thousand. I think a thousand bucks a person. We're not doing that yet though. Yeah, but I know your stuff. Yeah, $1,000 a person or $2,000.
I think $1,000 a person.
We're not doing that yet, though.
Yeah, but I know your stuff.
Second generation immigrant, I believe, because I remember this.
You're a similar age to me.
I'm 43.
I don't know you, but I remember this.
You're a similar age to me.
And second generation.
No, I'm going to make a guess either china or taiwan and
i'm gonna say taiwan because yang is the name of the actor from fresh off the boat
am i right on that one he is correct yeah
it's a little warm in here. I'm a big fan of immigrants, man.
I'm a big fan of immigrants.
Look, I envy you because I can't run for president.
I feel like you've got to change that when you become president.
Not for everyone.
You lost opportunity.
America's lost.
Can you imagine?
Yeah, so we wanted to, we're going to talk to you today about universal basic income.
Universal basic income, okay.
But we figured before that, we'd just talk a little bit about running for president.
What's that like?
It's a little bit like being a stand-up comedian,
honestly. You go to groups of people, they're like, what are you going to tell us? And then you try and get them engaged. In my case, it was a vision for the country that people get excited
about. But it was a massive learning experience, a great journey. By the end, we had hundreds of thousands, even millions of Americans behind us.
You never forget that.
Met thousands of people on the trail.
The best thing is I'm still married.
Woo-hoo!
Yay!
My wife's like, yeah, we're still in it.
Is she happy it's over?
Is your wife happy it's over, or did she enjoy the process as well? My wife is happy it's over is she happy is your wife happy it's over or did she enjoy the
process as well my wife is happy it's over uh she joined me on the trail in the home stretch
and then we had like a tour bus and the kids came and had some family memories and experiences but
i was on the road for the better part of two years and she didn't see a whole heck of a lot of me a little bit again like being a traveling uh it might be the reason
you're still married this is very close to being a stand-up comedian every everything you described
is exactly the same except i do it drunk um you may have you may have you had a lot of ideas
he was trying to give away money. He might have been drunk.
Yeah, the whole thing is like when you get in a relationship or you're in a relationship and you do stand-up comedy,
for the first year they're like, this is great,
and they come on the road with you everywhere,
and then you're like, hey, I'm doing a gig in Ohio,
and they're like, oh, wait till that Las Vegas one.
And I don't know if you're,
is this something you would even say,
or do you think you'd run again in the next election?
Or, I mean, hopefully, I mean,
maybe we'd have an incumbent, but who knows?
I'm committed to just trying to solve the problems
that I ran on.
So if that's as a candidate again,
I definitely consider it.
But, you know, right now, like I'm focused on
trying to help Joe and Kamala win
and solve the problems here and now because there are a lot of people struggling.
Joe and Kamala.
So he's a Democrat.
All right.
Okay.
I'm doing good.
I'm doing good.
So when you say run again, you're a young man.
You're in your 40s, I believe.
40s?
Yeah, that's right.
You've got 30 years.
If the current presidential race is anything to go by, we can see you in 2050.
Would that even be a year that we'd run for?
That's an odd number.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't think so now.
It could be because it's 30.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah, 2052.
That might be wrong too. I don't think so, no. It could be because it's 30. No, I don't think so. Yeah, 2052.
That might be wrong, too.
I'm just saying.
That was some fast math there, Jim.
It went deep.
Oh, wow.
Okay, I'm not going to say it because I might be wrong.
Did you do a campaign that said the word math?
Yes, I did. Okay, all right.
I remember.
And it was make America talk happy or something.
It was something. I'm not sure yeah this
is not part of that we're not talking about that as far as the questions i'm gonna know but i like
recalling facts yeah i'm trying to yeah do you know what it means did you know it was make america
think think don't ask me think yeah make amer America think harder. Well done, Jim. Yeah, there we are.
Make America think harder.
It didn't work on Jim.
All right.
It did.
I was thinking hard.
It did, clearly.
I was thinking.
He remembered math.
He remembered it stood for something.
Yeah.
I think that's 90% of it.
I love that this podcast is going to formulate Jim's conversations moving forward, just meeting
somebody and just shouting out facts at them.
But this is the thing.
This is a man that I support and like.
Imagine people who I don't even
pay attention to. That's going to be rough.
Do you know who Scott
Andrew Yang is?
Scott Andrew Yang?
That's a person?
You're going to like this then.
What is he running for? One of the judge seats.
He's running for one of the judge seats in Los
Angeles. For Judge 2020.
And he used to only go by Scott Yang,
but on the ballot now and on his website,
it says Scott Andrew Yang.
And I feel like maybe he's taking advantage.
Yeah.
His,
his,
when you Google name,
but you Google Scott Andrew Yang,
his website comes up first and then it's images for Scott Andrew Yang.
And it's just all pictures of you.
So,
so, so you're helping him out a little bit.
Yes.
Running those Google searches since 2019.
I voted for the first time yesterday,
for the first time I voted in an election and-
In the United States.
In the United States, I did.
Welcome, welcome to our political process.
Thank you. So exciting.
Thank you.
I've been a citizen for a couple of years, and this is my first opportunity.
And it's not easy.
I thought I'd just go, I'd tick the Biden box, and then I'd call it.
Oh, I told everyone who I voted for.
Anyway, so I thought I'd do that.
And then all the propositions, man, it's a lot of reading, voting in America.
Yeah.
In Australia, it's just like.
All the reading I read to you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jack read
it to me because I don't get things in.
In Australia, we just have a dunk tank
and a couple of balls.
We throw it at whichever contestant we like.
There's not a lot of reading.
I thought you just tied a ribbon to a kangaroo
and then just whichever one won.
The country's always
going forward.
Okay, let me properly introduce'm excited jim i'm so glad that you're you're like a voter now the first time i that's another
important uh ritual you know where like you became a citizen and now you voted what's left
what's left of the american experience well i i have an american child
i can't be president i've reached the top of the top maybe taxes i could be governor but then
you know what change can i make doing that
you should definitely do the schwarzenegger plan governor oh no no, no. I've already knocked up one of my maids.
Halfway there.
Yeah, I think you have to be a citizen for five years,
and then you can run for governor.
I'm ready.
I'm ready to go.
I've got ideas.
Let me properly introduce you, Andrew.
Andrew Yang is an entrepreneur, author, philanthropist,
and former 2020 presidential candidate.
Andrew's nationwide support, known as the Yang Gang, propelled him to seven Democratic primary debates, outlasting six senators, four governors, three members of
Congress, two mayors and one secretary. Andrew then founded Humanity Forward, an organization
built to realize the vision and ideas of his presidential campaign through both advocacy
and action. Humanity Forward's vision is to foster a human centered America that measures each person
for their intrinsic value, not their economic value. He has a podcast called Yang Speaks, and you can find that at Yang Speaks dot com.
And Humanity Forward has a website at Move Humanity Forward dot com.
Thanks for being here, Andrew.
Thanks for being here.
So what was a great intro?
One of my team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that was at the top of his head.
Yeah, yeah.
It was just just improv.
Yes, Ant.
So here's what we're going to do now is we are going to talk about universal basic income, Jim.
Yes.
And I'm going to ask Jim a series of questions.
First, he's going to tell me everything he thinks he knows about universal basic income.
I'm going to ask him a series of questions to prod him along.
And then after that time period, we are going to go to the expert and see how you did on the questions.
Okay.
Zero through 10, 10 being the best, Andrew.
And then Kelly's going to grade him on confidence.
I'm going to grade him on et cetera.
Zero through 10, you're bankrupt.
This is the total scores.
11 through 20, living paycheck to paycheck, 21 to 30, Scrooge McDuck.
So are you ready?
Yes.
Okay.
What is universal basic income?
So are you ready?
Yes.
Okay.
What is universal basic income?
It's giving everybody the same amount of money each month so that they can meet their basic needs.
Okay.
Okay.
And do you want to know his plan or just?
We'll get to it.
Are there any other names it's known by?
No.
Money Givey in Australia.
Oh, it is?
Yeah, we call it the Money Givey system.
Oh, that's a good one.
That's catchy, actually.
Too wise.
In Britain, it's called Don't Tell Anyone I Gave You This.
It's like an uncle at a party who slips you a check.
Don't tell anyone, all right?
Just fucking take it, son.
Take it.
I should have called it the Money Givey. you're fucked up write it down um uh why why would this be good
why because you get like i believe i i maybe often i believe andrew said one thousand dollars
per month per citizen and everyone gets it which i like because i i often get pissed off that the
rich get ignored in these these things and i was like it's just a nice fair thing oh yeah so what
was your question i was asking what why is it good what good would it what is it it's good because
it makes everyone pay their basic things food and you know some bit of medical whatever everyone
everyone can pay for things
and it's better than having food stamp system and i don't know if it's a conjunction with the
food stamp system but it's like you know that way we can essentially say when someone comes in
what did you do with your thousand dollars right when there's like i don't have any money what do
you do with your thousand dollars and then you can people can budget okay like it's not a lot of
money but it's just enough to feed yourself and do all that type of stuff all right um how far back does this
idea go of like basic income and then who thought of it first korag the caveman korag korag that
with a k or c yeah with a k okay is that the same as korag the tripper or is it a different guy
korag korag oh no it would go back to...
In America or worldwide, who conceived it?
First idea of it ever.
God, it wasn't like...
On this planet.
It wasn't like Karl Marx or anything, was it?
Oh, the Marx Brothers?
Yeah, it was the Marx Brothers.
I'm going to say Groucho Marx did it.
It wasn't Harpo because he didn't say anything.
So Karl Marx, you think it was a communist thing
I don't know
I would say it goes back
to the first person
it was the 1980s
and it was
it was
it wasn't Joe Finkel?
let's say
who's ever running against Reagan
I know a lot about America.
Against Reagan.
Was this on the citizenship test that you had?
It was not.
I got some easy-ass questions.
Name three states that border with Canada
and knocked it out of the park.
Arizona.
What do critics of this, of universal basic income say?
Critics, well, in America, anytime someone wants to give you anything,
they call you a socialist or they call you a communist or anything like that.
And they say that people will mistreat this thing.
Now, I come from a socialist country with health care and housing.
And I lived in another one in Britain and all that type of stuff.
And I think socialism gets a bad rap.
People mix it up with nasty things and I think it's a good thing
that you should take care of people and all that type of stuff.
So it's a form of socialism?
I think it's a form of socialism, yeah.
But I don't – maybe Andrew doesn't like that term himself.
I don't know.
But what was the question?
I was just saying what do critics say?
Critics say...
This is a tactic Jim does when he doesn't know something.
Andrew, he says, like,
and in England, they have tea twice a day.
And anyways...
We're talking about space.
Critics say that we can't be trusted with money.
We can't be trusted.
If you give us a thousand bucks,
we, the people, will go and gamble it or buy prostitutes.
And that's only part of what we do with it.
Right.
The other things we do, we buy food and cigarettes.
How is universal basic income different than welfare?
Everybody gets it.
Welfare is only for the people who need welfare, but everybody gets universal income.
So it's all even and fair okay
that's it yeah man okay you know that you're probably missed something when i ask is that it
okay uh uh and so everyone gets it i was gonna say how's it decided who gets it you're saying
everyone that's your answer anyone who's a citizen or uh yeah i don't think illegal immigrants can get it because they don't have the documentation.
How would a country be able to afford to do this?
You can't afford to do it because when you do that, oh, fuck, I know how this works.
Math.
The math actually works out.
Make America think harder.
That people will be able to do things like go for job interviews and stuff like that.
And it'll all turn things around because we have the basic income to fit our base needs then we'll be able to work and put money back into the
system and we won't be taking welfare other people won't be taking welfare from the other system
and so it'll all even out or improve and i'm probably way out on that but i said a lot of
words there sounds smart it's it's the giving and the taking and the holding.
Giving and taking.
And the sharing.
Giving, taking, holding.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll write that down.
Giving, taking, holding.
All right.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks.
It was a Joey reference from Friends.
No, I know.
Okay.
How can we be sure that people would spend their money responsibly?
Well, you can't be.
You can't be.
But here's the thing.
You've got to give them a go.
Yeah.
There you go.
A couple more questions here.
How many countries or have any countries ever tried universal basic income?
And if so, which ones?
I'm going to say yes.
Okay.
Do you know how many or do you know which ones?
Malta and Spain.
Malta?
Yeah.
And Spain.
Yeah.
Yeah, there you go.
Malta.
You love Malta.
I died in Malta.
You did die in Malta.
There was that article that said Jim died in Malta.
The thing that I had a car crash in Malta.
I've never been to Malta. The thing was, in the car crash in Malta. I've never been to Malta.
The thing was, in the car crash, I was driving a really shitty car.
It was like a $600 car.
The best was the picture they used too.
It was like you were completely disheveled in an airport.
They didn't use any professional pictures.
It was a picture of me hung over at LAX by TMZ.
Yeah.
Being interviewed about something and I hadn't done my hair.
And I just like
there's professional shots
yeah exactly
and
how
how is support
for Universal Basic Income
like what do you think
how many Americans
do you think support it
like percentage wise
I believe 30%
of Americans support
I believe
no fuck it
80%
80
yeah I believe people
oh no you would have won
45 45 yeah final answer final answer lock it in
all right we're done with the questions all right all right uh thanks for waiting there
andrew yang patiently on a scale of zero to ten ten being the best how did jim do and his knowledge
of universal basic income i'm going to give jim an. I thought that Jim actually got the substance of it a lot. You should also know that I'm a fan of Jim's ever since that viral gun comedy bit where he talked about gun laws in the US. And then I've seen your specials. I saw your discussion of me in the campaign during,
because my team was like, hey, check it out.
Jim Jefferies, like, you know, used a clip.
So you should know I'm a fan of yours.
And if there was a test on anything to do with you,
I would do pretty well too.
Romance.
Yeah.
Get a room, you two.
Yeah.
I remember I worked on Jim's show,
and I remember we had a clip of some people that run an experiment
giving some people the stipend,
and then they asked if they'd vote for you, and they go, yeah, maybe.
That was one of the clips.
Yeah, one of them went, I probably would.
Yeah, and you were like, probably?
Probably.
He's offering you $12,000 a year, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
Kelly, confidence, how'd he do?
I feel like he started at like a 15 with confidence
and then really trailed down even though he was doing okay.
So I'm going to – he went down to like a 7.
I'll give him a 12.
12.
All right.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, we're just averaging it out alright
we started high
really ended low
I'm at 20 already
alright
I'm gonna give
on setter
I'm gonna give a 2
because the two of you
are an adorable couple
so
so that's a total of 22
you're Scrooge McDuck
that's pretty good
that's alright
Scrooge McDuck
is a terrible stereotype
which
shouldn't happen in our society
of ducks
won't anybody think about the ducks well this is this is the thing Scrooge McDuck is a terrible stereotype, which shouldn't happen in our society. Of ducks?
Won't anybody think of other ducks?
This is the thing.
There's a myth that was not that much of a myth.
I lived there.
But the Scottish people are stingy with their money.
Because my tickets for Edinburgh used to be six pounds to come and see me.
And then you'd hear like, ah, can't come, Jim.
Eight pounds. You know, they wouldn't go for eight quid i think i think i think remember you saying this and we really
bash scotland a lot in this in this this podcast so far i like scotland just the iron brew and i'll
touch that but i think it's a bit of a stereotype making him scottish yeah well anyway there you go
i was wondering what stereotype you were talking about I was like what's wrong with Scrooge McDuck
because I use that thing
I use a Scrooge McDuck joke
I love Scrooge McDuck
it's just that he should have a broken skull
anytime you dive into a pit of coins
don't think you're swimming
he should just be with a broken neck
just laying there going
that's the moral of the story
if you make a coin vault and you try to dive in yeah always have no okay so one thing i just
wanted to throw out to you about uh the support for universal basic income the latest surveys
are something like 55 of americans are for it uh and 82 of americans are for cash relief during
the pandemic uh in part because money went out and
everyone enjoyed it so just letting you know what the numbers are right now uh that number did go up
a lot you were like well he would have won if enough people were for it so your numbers were
actually pretty good uh but supporters shot up over the past number of weeks yeah surprisingly
i don't know where's that money yeah? Well, I know that like,
didn't the government give us some money or something?
$1,200.
It depended on your income.
Oh, I didn't get it.
Yeah, it depended on your income.
I didn't get it.
I know in Australia, they gave money to a few.
In an Australian campaign,
one of the people ran and they said,
and they won and they said,
if you vote me in, you'll get like two grand.
And everyone went, all right then. Yeah. And they all, you'll get like two grand. And everyone went, all right, then.
Yeah.
And they all, you know, the whole country.
Maybe you should run an, I mean, in Australia, Andrew.
Seems like it.
Australia would eat you up, mate.
They'd fucking love your plans.
You know, I do have some Aussie fans.
I see them online where they're like, yeah, yay.
Go on over here.
We need someone like you.
So I appreciate it. Yeah, no, you do well in Australia.
Yeah, Amos is a big fan.
All right.
So what is basic?
What is universal basic income?
Jim said everyone gets some dollars, but I think there's more to that.
Or can you just give us a more succinct explanation, please?
Universal basic income is a policy where every member of a society gets a certain amount
of money to meet your basic needs. No questions asked. So he was essentially right. You know, there are some names for it that we can get into. I called it the freedom dividend. But guaranteed annual income is another name it's gone by, guaranteed income.
guaranteed income uh negative income tax is sort of a cousin to to the idea where it says if you make below a certain amount then we true you up to that amount um so it's slightly different than
universal basic income but it's it's related i would call it the give them what they want
plan oh that's good or give it something catchy so people can get into it called a freedom dividend
freedom dividend americans always putting freedom in things and stuff like that i'll tell you what
you call it boom shakalaka like that you go always putting freedom in things and stuff like that. I'll tell you what you call it.
Boom shakalaka.
Like that.
You go, the boom shakalaka plan.
So when people go to their ATM and they see it, they go, boom shakalaka.
Like that.
Where were you when I was launching my campaign, Dan?
He's like, what is this polling data, freedom dividend crap?
It's boom shakalaka.
I thought it was Money Givey.
Money Givey, I've grown tired of that already.
How far back does this idea go and who thought of it first?
Is there a person that thought of it first?
So the person I attributed to from early on here in America is Thomas Paine was for it
when the country was founded.
And then Martin Luther King was big for it in the 60s. So it's been around for a long time.
It goes even back before Thomas Paine to some like Greek philosophers and that jazz,
but I never went back that far. I didn't think Americans would care if I was like Aristotle.
It's like, I didn't think Americans would care if I was like Aristotle.
They wouldn't.
You were right.
Everybody gets two olive branches every month.
That's what you live on.
So why would this be good?
Like, how would this, why are you saying that this would help the country?
Everyone gets a thousand bucks first.
No, I know, but I'm not. That's why it would be good.
Yeah, I got that.
I thought Jim did a good job explaining it.
You know, it's like you'd have enough money to pay for food and clothing and basic needs and give everyone a shot.
You could create a ton of jobs and opportunities.
I mean, looking right now during the pandemic, you have all these business owners who are going to shut their doors forever and get money into their hands, their customers' hands.
There's a chance they'd survive um so there are tons of benefits it makes us healthier
mentally healthier more trusting more optimistic improves relationships it gives women the ability
to walk away from abusive jobs and relationships you know recognizes stay-at-home parents as
actually having value so there are a lot of things about it that
would be transformative. And it seems fair, because everyone gets it. It's not particularly
bipartisan or ideological. It's not left or right, it's forward, everyone can get behind it.
Republicans and conservatives look at it and say, you know what, like, I prefer this to a giant new
government bureaucracy. People on the left love it because it helps alleviate poverty and gives families a shot so there's so many good things about it
really like i walk into around the country when i was launching my campaign i was just like
how can we not be for this come on guys what i like what i like about it is it's simple
every time there's a stimulus plan or this and that and you have to qualify and you have to do
this amount of money and this amount of this and that amount and what you said like people getting
out of abusive relationships and stuff like that it's just simple because you can't put that on a
form to get money you know you can't go my husband slaps me around a bit or whatever all right you
know i mean you can't do that so so it's just a simple thing that's fair and across the board. And so critics, like what do critics say?
Or like what do they say?
And how would you shoot that down?
Jim hit a lot of the big ones too here where he's like,
oh, people won't know what to do with it.
How can you afford it?
And then he addressed the big points too, which is, look,
the money is going to circulate back through the economy
over and over again. So you're going to get a lot of it back you're going to save a ton of money
on things like incarceration and health care and homelessness services and a bunch of other things
and crime will go down as i was saying crime will go down as well crime will go down like how much
how much crime is born of deprivation and desperation that would be alleviated through this?
So the criticism. But Jim also hit the nail on the head where a lot of people in America just jump and say socialism anytime it seems like something positive is going to happen for people.
And what I said to folks is on Fox and other places because I was on Fox fair amount, was, look, this isn't socialism.
This is capitalism where income doesn't start at zero. This actually makes it so that businesses
function better, markets operate better. Markets operate much less well when people can't
participate and you don't have a middle class. So this is something, again, that people can get
behind from every part of the aisle.
But those are the main objections.
Jim's instincts around this stuff are very, very strong.
You could be governor.
You're going to have to run on this platform.
He just steals Andrew's entire platform.
Steal his name.
Jim Andrew Yang.
All I do is I run against Andrew in the primaries and I go like this
thousand and fifty bucks
that's the way to beat him
everyone keeps bidding more
I've changed my platform
it's twelve hundred now
how is basic income
different than welfare
Jim said everyone gets it.
So that's definitely right.
Is there any other differences?
I guess you said it, right?
You don't have to qualify.
You don't have to qualify for it.
Part of it, too, is that existing programs do have some paperwork and process, but also some negative incentives attached to them where if you do better, then you get less.
And I had people say to me in Iowa, it's like, look, I want to work part time.
I'm getting benefits right now and my benefits will go down if I do this new part time job.
And I wish I didn't have to make that kind of choice.
So that's something that existing welfare programs do have included.
I'm not someone who thinks that universal basic income replaces every program under the sun. But you have to look and say some of these programs right now are not designed very
well. Here's something that I've never known about America. Do you have a standard government
pension when you're old? The government just gives you an amount of money because my father
lives on a pension, right? And I don't know, I think it's 300 Australian dollars a week
or around about that. And he gets it every week. If you work for the government, you on a pension right and i don't know it's i think it's 300 australian dollars a week or around about that and he gets it every every if you work for the government you get a
pension oh no some labor unions will give you a pension yeah i know you can get a pension through
your job but the government just doesn't give you a pension see this would be good because all right
is that good the the equivalent of what you're talking about is social security sorry that's
what i'm trying to say which got yeah the the problem is
that you don't just get social security the way it works is that every year you work some of your
money goes into social security and then it uh accrues over time and then theoretically you get
it back when you retire well we have that as well in australia superannuation they call it you put
it you put it when you work but even if you've never worked in your whole life in australia you
can be on unemployment benefits and then you can go straight to the pension right and you'll always get paid a little
bit amount of money yeah because someone in a household like in a married household might not
be working one of their spouses might be working and the other one might not be and then they're
not getting social security here i like this idea because there is a chance that i could piss all
my money up the wall right i'm an irresponsible person you never know what could happen
and it's old people old people would get this money.
Old people who were living in digs and have bills and all type of stuff who can't work.
This is why it's good.
Asked if any countries ever tried universal basic income.
Which ones?
Jim said yes, Malta and Spain.
Yeah.
Stand by.
You know, the Spain thing, I think you might have seen a headline because Spain just announced that they're going to be running pilots on this.
Wow.
There are pilots.
Yeah.
I was like, wow.
I was about to say something Spanish.
I was like this.
Oilay or something.
Oilay.
I couldn't think of the word.
It's in a Spanish deli.
Tapas.
That's what they say.
Barcelona.
You can say it.
De nada.
So the other countries that have done similar things,
some of the Scandinavian countries have run pilots
or they have the equivalent in many respects,
their social safety net.
And then some of the petro economies have done it in the Middle East where everyone
gets a certain amount of oil money.
And the biggest example in the US is that Alaska, everyone gets $1,500 a year or so
also from oil, the petroleum dividend.
So if you have a family of four in Alaska, you get $6,000 a year, essentially.
What?
No questions asked. Everybody? Everybody in Alaska, you get $6,000 a year, essentially.
Everybody? Everybody in Alaska gets money?
Yeah, even kids. So, again,
if you have two adults, two kids in a household,
everyone gets $1,500. Even Sarah Pylan's
grandchildren?
Yep.
I don't know if they live there, but yeah, if they do.
Which Scandinavian countries might get the
universal income? So, Finland
ran a large-scale pilot, and all the Scandinavian countries get the universal income? So Finland ran a large-scale pilot,
and all the Scandinavian countries and Denmark
have very, very robust safety nets
that are kind of similar to Australia,
even revved up a little bit.
But they don't deserve it, the Scandinavians,
because they can all earn so much money off a fans-only site.
They're such good-looking people.
They don't need
universal income uh yeah the oil companies i remember i think we did an episode on saudi
arabia and i and i think they said that the guy that the professor we had on he was saying that
almost everybody works in oil and then all this money is i guess the uh sovereign wealth of the
countries or so i guess norway's oh yeah every yeah. Everyone in Saudi Arabia gets the money, do they?
Not everybody.
Maybe it was in Saudi Arabia.
I think I could probably think of half the population who might be.
Maybe it was UAE.
Not getting as much as the other half.
Okay.
Maybe not.
The kids.
And I don't know where we're at here.
Oh, and so the Freedom Dividend, that's your program,
but it's basically universal basic income, correct?
Yeah, that's right.
Is this so if, I mean, I guess maybe Biden would have to get elected,
but if he gets elected, is this like for the Freedom Dividend,
what you're trying to do with this,
is this something you're going to try and help him to get implemented,
or do you think he'd be against it, or is that something you can speak on? No, this is this something you're going to try and help to get him to get implemented or do you think
he'd be against it or is that something you can speak on now this is interesting to me yeah can
you pitch this to biden like even even though it's you ran it on your campaign can you go hey joe
come over here hey uh of course i mean i pitch people on this all the time so uh kamala came out
for a plan that is very ambitious like this.
She said $2,000 a month for everyone during the pandemic.
And that's a bill that's in Senate.
You know, it didn't have enough support to pass.
So Kamala is excited about it.
Joe is all for different ways that we can, frankly, just to help people because he knows how deep the suffering is.
He knows how deep the suffering is.
And now you have dozens of mayors around the country, including Los Angeles and Stockton and St. Paul and Atlanta, who all have come out and said we need basic income and they're running trials in their cities.
So this is here to stay.
This is not solely like Andrew Yang's campaign.
We can all see what's happening around us.
And Joe and Kamala, I think, are going to be open to different types of solutions including this one this is like when you when the new iphone comes
out right why do i wait so long to get it i know i'm gonna get it anyway i might as well get it
right away like this is gonna come into action if not in a few years maybe 20 years or whatever it's going to happen
we're going to get universal health care so why drag our feet let's just get on to it give me a
thousand bucks amen brother seriously because my argument was like look ai is coming down the pike
like google just announced that they can have artificial intelligence do the work of call
center workers there are two million americans are working call centers right now making 10 to 12 bucks an hour like we know we're going to end up doing
this or something like this so why why fuck around really you know and these corporations
they're going to have less employees so they're going to have less expenses so we tax them ever
so slightly higher and then we'll get a thousand bucks i don't know about the tax thing i'll make
that up yeah but and you mentioned AI too.
It's like driverless cars.
Everyone keeps talking about that.
But the amount of jobs that I've read about that between,
you know,
just the,
I don't even know what the mechanics and,
and,
and tickets wouldn't be being written anymore.
Cause there wouldn't be like parking issues or speeding or,
and then insurance companies would probably be like the amount of money.
So it's
the ai is the driving factor right just driving a truck is the most common job in 29 states over
3 million truckers in america 94 men average age 49 uh and then another 7 million plus americans
work in truck stops motels and diners that rely upon the truck stopping every day.
So if you succeed in having AI driven trucks, which would save, by the way, tens of billions
of dollars a year. So they're investing billions of dollars in trying to solve this problem.
You would devastate hundreds, thousands of communities around the United States. And
that's just one very obvious, visible change we can see. There are a lot of other less conspicuous changes that will have similar impacts.
So what we're saying is basically, let's let all the robots do everything and we sit back.
Yeah. Wally.
Let them all do it. And then we'll get paid for it.
Then let them turn on us and then we'll do a John Connor type of thing.
And then we'll all get paid for it. Yeah. That's on us, and then we'll do a John Connor type of thing, and then we'll all get paid for it.
Yeah, that's what happened in Wally.
They're all sitting around just eating, floating around on chairs.
That was kind of a bad version of that.
Yeah, I got one of those Roomba vacuums.
Goes through.
In Wolverine, they have those trucks.
I remember there's that scene where the horses are on the highway,
and they just have all those automated.
They just look like trucks without the front, just like big...
My Tesla now can do autopilot not just on the freeway.
It can just do it around.
No stop signs and shit.
What percentage of truckers, the truck drivers, are men?
94%?
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow, women really aren't fighting for equality on that one, are they?
Don't laugh, Andrew.
That's 6% women are going to be.
I've never seen women protesting in the street.
More trucker jobs.
Those are going to be some hardened women.
That's a tough job.
That's a tough job.
But the amphetamine business is through the roof.
Yeah, they're going to lose their jobs too with the truckers.
Because so many people are doing their job
and then everyone has to stay awake and all type of stuff.
You know, because it is better to have automated trucks.
It's safer and all that type of stuff.
But the jobs, it's a...
AM radio, that'll go down.
That's what they listen to.
My car doesn't have AM radio.
I listen to talk radio.
And the first thing I did, I bought me Tesla and I went,
hey, the AM, I can't find the AM.
They looked at me like this.
This car doesn't have AM. Wait, your car doesn't have am wait your car doesn't have that doesn't even make sense the new tesla doesn't have am because they think they're above it sports are on there i know i gotta buy like
satellite radio to listen to sports now but i like to listen to colin cowherd go on about sports i
don't understand every morning i I love the local sports guys.
They're always so passionate and such homers.
One of my big things is I like to listen to Republican radio.
I think it's hysterically funny.
When I first came to this country, there was a guy called Mark Levin.
I'll tell you a story very quickly.
I'm sorry.
Mark Levin is this guy that's just always like,
and the liberals, they're trying to do it it he's just always yelling into the microphone he's always and he doesn't even have anyone in the studio with him he's just angry by himself
just sitting there and so i get in the car i've been in the country i was going for an audition
i've been in the country about a week right and he was talking about michelle obama and he's so
he called her her thighness that's what he called her. Like real rude bastard, right?
And then he goes,
he goes,
these are the liars we're dealing with.
Listen to this.
Listen to this.
This is Michelle Obama talking to Elmo on Sesame Street.
And Elmo's like this.
Elmo's like this guy.
Hey,
should I have candy for dinner?
And then Michelle Obama goes,
oh no,
you should eat a well-balanced meal with fruits and vegetables and lean meats and grains and all this type of stuff.
And then he goes, and she goes, that's her on Sesame Street.
Now, I want you to listen to, I want you to listen to, this is her with a French president in an In-N-Out burger yesterday.
And she goes, I'll have a cheeseburger.
These are the lies we're dealing with a cheeseburger that's incredible she tells the children to eat vegetables then she's out eating
cheeseburgers like that right and i was like this guy's fucking insane right i go off i go off i
have my audition and then i go run i go eat lunch right i come back it's about an hour
and a half later i get back in my car i turn it on and he's going a cheeseburger he just stretches
it out all right if you get a chance listen to mark levin he's he's insane he's insane but as a
as a person a foreign person i thought, I never heard Republican radio.
I was fascinated by it.
But then the problem was I would listen to Republican radio constantly and laugh my ass off.
And then I would park at a valet in L.A.
And a Mexican would park my car and then step out and look at me like,
Fucking hell, this guy's intense.
Don't eat cheeseburgers around this guy.
All right, Andrew Yang,
is there anything you would like to tell us else about universal basic income? Any interesting things that we might have missed or anything that you want to say about the
Move Humanity Forward movement or anything like that?
Oh, so Humanity Forward's an org that is trying to make universal basic income a reality. So we're doing it in a few ways.
Number one is we've distributed over $8 million in direct economic relief to struggling American families.
So if you need help or want to provide help, if you go to Move Humanity Forward, a lot of people are hurting and we're just trying to help.
You know, we try and walk the walk.
It's like one thing to be like, hey, we should give people money.
But just like on the campaign trail, Jim, you did that spot.
Like we gave a number of American families a thousand bucks a month for a year because oh sorry just
yeah yeah no we just so we we're trying to demonstrate that look we can do this for people
and it's great helps them a lot uh it'll help us all uh we we've funded a trial of universal
basic income in a small town in upstate New York
called Hudson that's funded by some great people, including JJ Reddick, who's an NBA
player, if you're an NBA guy.
Yeah, he played for the Clippers for a while. Yeah, I support the Clippers, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And then the third thing we're doing is supporting down-ballot candidates
who are running on a human-centered economy and universal basic income. So that's movehumanityforward.com. Really thrilled that this movement has so much momentum,
really, because we got to get this thing across the finish line. We got to make it the law of
the land as soon as we can, especially during this time of crisis. So that's what I'm working
on right now, in addition to helping Joe and kamala win and hopefully starting to solve some of the problems sooner rather than later when you
gave it to the small town did you get any negative feedback was there anyone who just went
oh no i didn't care for it it wasn't it wasn't for me did any was it all positive did you find
any hitches in it when you did the trial? Well, we are just launching the trial,
but a lot of the objections you get, Jim,
are what you'd expect, which is, you know,
how are you choosing these people?
How are you choosing this town?
Like, who's going to get it and not get it?
I mean, it was essentially random chances.
Like, look, just apply.
And, you know, like, as long as you satisfy
some very basic criteria, you'll get it.
But a lot of people are concerned.
And this is like the fundamental challenge we have with universal basic income
that I think you actually nailed when you talk about the Republican radio,
is that there are two mindsets you can have in life, really.
There's like a mindset of abundance where great things are possible.
We can do more for people.
And then a mindset of scarcity, which is good things are not possible.
And if you get it, then I don't get it. And there's not enough to go around.
And right now, scarcity is winning in this country. Republican radio actually just traffics
in scarcity. It's like there's this thing happening and you should care about it. And it's
like, you know, someone else is pulling one over on you. It's why Trump is president. And when you
show up to a town and say, we're going to try and do something very positive,
people may react with like, too good to be true.
There's something unfair about this.
I don't like it because they're just not used to good things happening.
And that's true for far too many Americans.
And that's what we have to change.
We have to let people know that they deserve it. Good are possible if enough of us get together we can make this happen
yeah that that is a real american thing like when they talk about health care and stuff like that
all i hear is like why should i have to pay when this person doesn't and what about mine and this
is why this plan is so great everyone gets the same you can't go why can that person and i can't
and i should be able to get more and all that type of stuff everyone gets a same you can't go why can that person and i can't and i should be able to
get more and all that type of stuff everyone gets a thousand bucks i'm in you're part of the yang
gang i'm in i'm in i i'm i'm very serious i i i i would have voted for andrew yang that would have
been that would have been my uh my person yeah all right the bromance continues all right so i didn't
mind bernie but he was a bit curmudgeon-y.
And I was meant to interview Bernie Sanders once on the show
and he cancelled on me at the last minute
and I still hold a grudge.
I do remember that.
Wasn't he on, like, campaigning?
Yeah, and then he rang up one of our producers
and he goes, tell Jim I'm going to call him.
I don't know, whatever he did later.
And then he never called me.
I was looking at my phone all
the time going oh sanders is gonna call me and i think uh andrew andrew comes to the show so
that's how you get my vote i don't think he came to your show he's on right now oh on our show i
thought you meant like your live stand-up okay um all right well that's it uh andrew yang thank
you for being here um please check out his podcast uh yang speaks.com
you can find it and humanity forward is at movehumanityforward.com we'll put all those
links on our instagram id kat podcast and also on the youtube clip um anything any closing thoughts
really keep up the great work the advertisers are on their way
thank you for being on the show, Andrew.
Look, I fully support what you're doing here,
and I wish you the best of luck.
And if you ever want to come to a gig or something, hit me up.
And where do you live?
New York, mostly.
Okay, well, so I'll see you in 2025.
Yeah, I'll reach out on social media.
I would love to stay in touch and i'm genuinely a fan
of yours jim i think you've got a really great message uh and it's presented in a way that
different types of people will um like uh just like and trust so i appreciate the heck out of
you oh thank you sir i appreciate you thank you so much all right bye guys keep taking care of him all right if you're at a party
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