I Don't Know About That - U.S. Gun Laws

Episode Date: June 8, 2021

In this episode, the team discusses U.S. gun laws with "America's Government Teacher" and creator of @SharonSaysSo, Sharon McMahon. Follow Sharon on Instagram @SharonSaysSo and go to SharonMcMahon.com to learn more. Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tickets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just a word that upsets people. The Moist Tour. Let's see if there's drop-off on this podcast after saying that. I will be the – what's the ninth month? What's that one? September. September. September 24th.

I'll be New York City. September 25th, Chicago. October 8th, I'll be in Fort Myers. October 9th, Fort Lauderdale. Then, look, these are the towns I'm coming to. Jacksonville, New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, Oklahoma City, Los Angeles, Omaha, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Buffalo, Philadelphia, Norfolk, Phoenix, and San Francisco. So go to – where do you buy the tickets, Jack? JimJeffries.com. JimJeffries.com, and there'll be a link. Make sure that's set up.

And there'll be a link, and you can buy tickets. I hope to see you out there. And we're visiting all the places that we had to cancel because of COVID. So thanks for being so patient. I hope to see you soon. Let's start the show. Rhinoceroses, elephants, giraffes. Which one has the longest spelling? You might find out, and I don't know about that With Jim Jefferies See I did the misdirect there

Because I was about to go neck or something The longest neck But they're all animals that are really long How do you spell rhinoceroses? It's a couple of X's on the end That one definitely has to be the longest spelling Yeah that was long Rhinoceroses

It's a long word You invented some extra letters in there Is it rhinocerose? Rhinocerose? Rhinoceroses. It's a long word. You invented some extra letters in there. Is it rhinocer- Rhinocer- Rhinocer-i? Rhinocer-i. Is that the multiple? Uh-huh. A gang of rhinoceroses?

What do you call them? A herd? I, uh- I'd call that a horn of rhinoceroses. Ooh. I thought you were talking about which animal spells the longest. It didn't really make sense.

Like, what word is the longest? No, no, no, no. It's when you have a spelling bee with those three animals which takes the longest time that's what I thought yeah yeah yeah it's definitely the

renaissance the giraffe gets up and goes super can you put it in a sentence please and they're like this can you put your neck down

we can't hear you you're too far away from the microphone yeah they gotta get those they gotta get no they get him a big long mic stand

the price is right Mike did you know he even puts it a bit higher and he leans down underneath it like he's Liam Gallagher Yeah, they've got to get those. Yeah, they've got to get, no, they're getting him a big long mic stand. The price is right, Mike. Did you know Adam? He even puts it a bit higher and he leans down underneath it like he's Liam Gallagher. Your friend, your friend Adam Bantz is having a giraffe at his wedding. Oh, really? That's nice. Why is he doing that?

He said, why not? I asked him why and he said, why the fuck not? I said, all right. Because the poor animal might want to be left alone. Nope. It's going to get a bow tie. Oh, yeah. By the way, it's not, it's not to walk around.

It's for dinner. Well, I've never had giraffe. Chicken or giraffe? Chicken or giraffe? I'm a pescatarian. I'll have giraffe. I like when people say, why not, when you clearly know why not. I don't know why not.

There's just so many reasons. Look, we don't even need to answer that question. I want to do my normal plug of the week. Plug of the week. Okay, Australia's already sold out. Looking forward to the show. Putting a lot of effort into the show. I think I've got something good for you, Australia,

so I'm looking forward to those gigs. Also, Forrest, do you want to come to Vegas with me? Oh, yeah. When are the Vegas dates, Jack? July 30th and 31st, I believe. July 30th and 31st, the acces of Comedy at the Mirage Hotel. Tickets are on sale now. Go to the Mirage webpage, Aces of Comedy.

I will be there July 30th and 31st. I'm looking forward to getting back into the swing of things here in America as well. What game have we got for us? Oh, wait. I wanted to say one other thing. So just Tara, remember the bird guy we had on, Scott Whittle, bird expert? He had a project called Terra, T-E-R-R-A, that is launching, or it has already launched. And if you're interested in it, go to terralistens.com.

It's a little speaker you put in your backyard, and it listens to all the birds. And you can hear it in your house if you wanted to get sounds from your yard. It also goes to, like, it gets downloaded, and they can tell what birds are there and who's migrating, and you can listen to other birds around the world on this app and stuff. So that's launching if you want to be part of the, what do you call it, Kickstarter.

You can find it on terrorlisteners.com. And then remember the gut health episode? That's wonderful. I could hear my neighbors fighting. Yeah. In my house. I don't know where your fucking thing is. Where are you left at?

And then also we had Tim Spector on talking about gut health. You remember that? Yeah, I do. So I signed up. Kimchi, kimchi people. I signed up for that Zoe, the Join Zoe a while ago. And I was on a waiting list and I finally got there and now I'm going to send

them some poop of my own which has been my lifelong goal is to send poop through the mail legally. I predict that company will soon shut down after this. I'm going to send them some poop and then they're going to do the blood thing and then I'm going to be healthy in two weeks.

Just you wait and see. But anyways, I just thought I'd mention that because those are people we had on the show and we like to support them and have you guys support them. Yeah. If you're interested in the bird things, Tara listens, and then Zoe joins Zoe is the other one. All right.

What do you got, Jack? Today, I pulled some old jokes from the 1800s. It wasn't from my old joke book. I went online and found jokes that were printed in newspapers and other joke books. This was a popular segment we already did. People seem to like us reading jokes from the 1800s. Jim, do you want to start us off?

Oh, I've got one in front of me. I didn't know that's what it was. Okay, this is from the Irish Times, May 28th, 1892. This is part of a competition. They had people submit jokes for a newspaper competition. Yeah, it looks like I have one from the same day. I have one too. I think we all have

one from the same spot. Okay, so the two characters are called Mama and Little Deer. So Mama says, Can you pass me the cake, dear, Little Deer? I think you's had all that is good for you. That's how it

read. How do you know, little dear? I don't know. I only think like you do when I want things. It's weird because I read mine and it's similar. Punch her in the cunt. That's how I write jokes. I just put that it's similar. And then he punched her in the cunt. That's how I write jokes. I just put that at the end.

I read mine and I think there's a similar style going on in 1892 in Ireland, which I mean, not funny. I think this was written in Gaelic. Here's mine from the Irish time. Is this a competition? Yeah, it was. 1892. Normal people just set these in.

Mama, said Johnny, can anybody hear with their mouth? No, child, I don't think they can, replied the mother. You always should put replied the mother in jokes. Very good. Then, Mama, what made Mr. Jones still sister? He wanted to tell her something and put his lips to her mouth instead of her ears. The mother didn't question Johnny, but turned her attention to Mr. Jones. But that worthy gentleman made it all right by proper explanations.

It's not even a joke. That worthy gentleman made it all right by proper explanations. It's not even a joke. This is like some sort of, this guy should be in jail. You can leave this. I got to get me sandwich. Okay. Hello.

Sponsored by Jersey Mike's. And I've got my sandwich. All right. I've got one also from the Irish Times. I bet it's going to be good. Mama says, did you think Mr. Nice Fellow when he gave you that silver dollar? Little boy. Yes, that is sorter. Mama, what did you say?

Or what did you say? Little boy. I told him next time he kissed sis, I wouldn't tell. Wow. These are all like. This feels more like a confession than a joke. Ireland is like, back then, even now, is quite a repressed society with a lot of Catholic priests and shit like that.

So they think mild pedophilia jokes are the way of the future. This is incest, this one, right? Well, I don't know who Mr. Nice Fellow is. Mr. Nice Fellow is probably a priest. Here's a minister one. Did someone pay you off for kissing me? I don't understand this one, but maybe we can figure it out. This is all dialogue.

There's no characters here. The young minister will never succeed. He is too easily rattled. I never noticed. I did. At Emma Harkin's wedding, he kissed the groom and shook hands with the bride. Yeah, that's the joke,

because he's confused. You're meant to kiss the bride and shake the groom's hand. That's the best one of all these. The minister kisses people when they walk up? At a party when he's had a few drinks, he's meant to go, congratulations. I'm just confused why they're touching anybody.

And he's just like, ah. You were confused about a minister touching someone? I want a kiss. Well, they're not 10. That's a good point. While passing a house on the road. Oh, this is from the Daily Milwaukee News in 1870. Now, I'm surprised that Milwaukee existed back then.

A lot of news. News. We've got a town hall. There's a lake. There's a lake. There's a lake over there. Just found it. While passing a house on the road, two Virginia salesmen spotted a very peculiar chimney, unfinished, and it was attracting their attention.

They asked the flaxen-haired urchin standing near the house if it drawed well, standing near the house if it drawed well, whereupon the aforementioned urchin gave them a stinging retort. Yes, it draws all the attention of all the, now it says D and then it says, I think it's dicks. I think damned. I think it's damned. It was like a. It's a swear word.

It was bleeping on the newspaper. They gave me a D and then five. I think it's damned. Damned. It draws the attention of all the damned fools that passes the road. Badumts. Oh. I think there was a guy who could draw it.

Oh, I don't know. Yeah. It's good. It's good stuff. There was wordplay there, but I'm not sure what drawing on a roof meant. I like flaxen-haired urchin. Yeah. That's definitely. It's good stuff. There was wordplay there, but I'm not sure what drawing on a roof meant. I like flaxen hair, don't you? Yeah, that's definitely why I picked that one. It's a good insult.

There was a man whose last name was Rose. As a lark, he named his daughter Wild, with the happy conceit of having her called Wild Rose. But that sentiment was knocked out when the woman grew up to marry a man whose last name was Bull. Wild Bull. Bracey. Yeah.

Yeah, that's when you put names together. It's like when Jane Moore married Nikki Cox and her name became Nikki Moore Cox. That was funny. That was a good laugh. Good thing she didn't marry a guy whose last name was Fuck. You know? Yeah.

Then she wrote him down. I'm like, well, fuck. That would have been embarrassing for her. Yeah fuck that would have been embarrassing for her that her last name was send that to the time I had a mate whose second name was suck a dick and he just married a girl called Mary

and it was awkward I knew a guy with a last name dick and shit alright from the Daily Phoenix April 4th 1872 a man said to a preacher a lot of religion in this stuff. That was an excellent sermon, but it was not original. The preacher was taken aback. The man said he had a book at home containing every word the preacher used.

The next day, the man brought the preacher a dictionary. Oh, I thought the guy at home just had a Bible. That was my thought. Yeah. I would my thought. Yeah. I would have thought Bible too, but nope. I mean, that's the misdirection I got you with in 1892. They really took you for a journey there. That's how you craft a joke.

Yeah. It's brilliant. Yeah. You could just say these on your Australia tour. You don't even need the right new stuff. I just read them out. So this is from the Philadelphia Times from 1890. It's a limerick, I suppose.

I can't imagine this won't be racist. Whatever troubles Adam had, no man could make him sore. By saying when he told a jest, I've heard that joke before. Yeah, it's a good one. All right, this is from Martin Merriman, a joke cracker, Rotterdam, 1803. This is the oldest one we've read, I think. This is a bit of Dutch stuff, is it? Yeah.

Yeah, probably racist. One said that to live quiet in a marriage state, the husband ought to be deaf that he may not hear his wife's impertence? Impertence? Impertinence. Impertence impertinence yeah you don't want to hear that and the wife blind that she may not see her husband's gallantries yeah yeah that's the end hilarious i think it's a version of that old joke about like the guys driving along and his fucking wife falls out of the car and then like like, I don't know, there's a bit more to it. The wife falls out of the car, right?

The guy doesn't notice. He gets pulled up by a cop and the cop pulls him up and goes, mate, I've been following you. Your wife fell out of the car five miles ago. And he goes, oh, thank God for that. I thought I'd gone deaf. You think that's what that joke is? I think that's the...

I think that that's a rewritten version of this joke. That's the first version from the Netherlands. Found in cave walls. Wait, this next joke is by Sam Spliceham? What the fuck's that? It's just the guy's name. Get out of here. It's not his name.

It's his joke book. Joke upon joke from 1818. Wow. Keep them coming, Sam. A medical gentleman in an advertisement informed the public that he had removed from his old station to a place near the churchyard for the accommodation of his patients. I believe a churchyard is a cemetery. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they're all dead. Yeah. He's a doctor. Yeah. It's a thinker. Patients keep dying. No, he doesn't have patients. No, they all die. They keep dying. So he's thinker. Patients keep dying. He doesn't have patients? No, they all die.

They keep dying. So he's just moving his practice to the graveyard. That would be a good thing. Yeah, that's a smart thing. There was a doctor with a bad temper. He had no patience. That one would get in all day in 1806. That would be a big one.

This one will be a good test to see if you remember anything from the fashion episode. Victorian England, 1860s. Moving in unfashionable circles, wearing a crinoline. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's because you're wearing something that's not fashionable anymore. Or it is. Or isn't crinoline the circle thing? It's like, yeah, it's the big circle hoop.

Yeah, moving in circles. By the way, you have that up on your computer. You have to look it up. No, I looked up the pronunciation because I was pretty sure it was crinoline, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't saying it wrong. What is the difference between a tube and a foolish Dutchman? I'm already laughing. Oh, wait, that was the end of your joke?

Yeah. Oh, jeez. When I say this joke I want you to answer me back what is the okay what's the difference

between a tube and a foolish Dutchman what what is the difference one is a hollow cylinder and the other one is a silly Hollander ah

yeah that's not bad yeah yeah um this one's probably the best joke of all the ones I have. From Victorian England in the 1860s.

Very abstract. Why is the devil riding a mouse like one and the same thing? Why? Why? Why is that? Because it's synonymous. Synonymous. Synonymous.

Synonymous. Pretty good. Synonymous. Yeah. It reads better. It reads better. It's pretty good until you look at the setup. Why is the devil riding a mouse?

It's like one and the same thing. It's like so reverse engineered. He's like, how can we make synonymous into a joke? It's terrible. It's not even worthy of a popsicle stick. Here's my Victorian England joke. It's pawnbrokers prefer customers without any redeeming qualities. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, customers without any redeeming qualities. Huh?

Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The queen liked that. That's not true, though, because they want you to come back. They'd rather you come back and give them the money and get the interest on it. Not in Victorian England in the 1860s. Yeah, maybe. It worked different back then.

Yeah, they didn't have enough. Is that all the jokes? I have one more if you want to read it. I've got one more piece of business I want to do. And then, oh, I'll read the rest. Get to the important things, Jim. Third one. Which one?

The third one. The merry. Merry and cracker jokes. Of two brothers, one served the king, the other toileted hard. Toiled. It's funny, it toileted. The other toiled hard for his food. The former saying to the latter,

why do you not serve the king and get rid of your toil? Was answered, why do you not toil and get rid of your slavery? See, it's a woke joke. It's really progressive. They're trying to get rid of slavery in 1893. Yeah, that's good. All right, so one more piece of business before we start the show. I think a couple of weeks ago I was talking about how I didn't get the job for Australia's Got Talent

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and that actually came out before the thing. Anyway, it made the news in Australia. I just want to say I have nothing against this French chef. I was just having a bit of fun. You know, everyone's acting like I'm fucking at war with this bloke. Do you want the headline? Yeah, what's the headline? Jim Jefferies blasts Manu Fildel in Channel 7

after being dumped from Australia's Got Talent. Oh, my God. They called it, you're on an explosive radio interview. If you listen to it, I was just having a laugh. You know, fucking hell. Anyway, so, Manu, no hard feelings, mate. I'm sorry about that. We want to have him on the podcast.

And if you want to come on the podcast, we've never done an episode on cooking, so we'd be more than happy to have you on. Plus, you shouldn't be fucking judging entertainment. What's wrong with you? Also, thanks for listening, Manu. Thanks, man. Thanks for subscribing.

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Yes, no. Yes, no. Judging a book by its cover. Oh, I'm holding back a sneeze. You are? Are you really? I've got it. I've got it.

I'm good. That's. You are? Are you really? I've got it. I've got it. I'm good. That's the worst, isn't it? We're supposed to say welcome to the show first. Welcome to the show. You just jumped right into the thing. Okay. I'm trying to decide what Sharon does here. Look, one of the most tastefully designed places we've ever interviewed anyone in.

I know this because I had an interior decorated in my house. I know that yours has been decorated. Either you're really good at it or you've had someone do it because up in the top right-hand corner, the books are on a jaunty level with an ornament on top of it. Oh, you mean they're like staggered. Oh, yeah, staggered. I learn about staggering and stuff like that.

And you've got the symmetrical two of the lamps on either side. Very good. Very good. But I also know this. Kelly said she learns more off you than anyone else on Instagram, and that's all I know. And I can't imagine Kelly is watching a lot of interior design stuff. I actually do follow a lot of DIY accounts.

But where do you go? What did you learn today? I learned that triangles are better than squares in a round room. That's where I learned my staggering technique. So are you involved in politics? Involved is too strong a word. Do you report on politics? Yes.

Oh, okay. Okay. Pretty good guess right off the bat. Yeah. That was a good guess. Yeah, I can see it. Was it the books that gave it away? No. No. Oh, okay. That was a good guess. Was it the books that gave it away? No.

Your report on politics. Are you a journalist? No. Okay, so you've written books. Not yet. Oh, okay. I feel like she's an expert in a lot of things, but the topic we're going to talk about today is something that you've talked about a lot.

Oh, gang control? Are you involved in gang control? Usually you say hemorrhoids when we say that. I was waiting for hemorrhoids. That's also how I get rid of my hemorrhoids. Shoot them off! I off not an expert in that don't know about that alright that's the name of the show

alright well this might be very embarrassing for me because a lot of my stand up routines are fairly loose facts the comments say that Sharon McMahon is a former high school government and law teacher who earned a reputation as america's government teacher amidst the historic 2020 election proceedings for her viral efforts on instagram to educate the general public on

political misinformation through a simple mission to share non-partisan information about democracy sharon launched her instagram account at at Sharon says so to share the facts straying from the political bias and clickbait. I think I wrote that in the wrong cadence, but you get it. All right. So her loyal following of governors is now 650,000 plus strong, and they represent people from both sides of political spectrum who look to

her for truth and logic and a society plagued by bias and conspiracy. So my question is, why are you covering up Q? who look to her for truth and logic in a society plagued by bias and conspiracy. So my question is, why are you covering up Q? What is wrong? What do you know? Today, Sharon has brought her knowledge to CNN, The Daily Show, Trevor Noah, and Today.com. Find Sharon breaking down headlines through daily news briefs on Instagram

at Sharon Says So. There you go. All right. Yeah, I thought maybe you might be nervous about this. Yeah. Have you seen Jim's... Gun control routine. That's what you're talking about.

I've seen some things. Yeah. Like someone who's come back from war. I've seen some things. I've seen some things. Yeah, just before we even start if how would you grade jim's knowledge on guns based on his gun control routine it depends on how good a mood i'm in oh good good well i look look i've actually been learning my gun control routine again for the australian tour and I've been watching the footage over and I've been mouthing along to myself

like a TikTok person. It's a bloody long routine. Fuck me. You don't remember at all. I don't remember. I haven't watched it since I recorded it. Everyone else, people yell out,

do the gun control thing. I haven't. I think it's in two parts on YouTube. I think it's in like eight years ago. It's a long time. We don't have a Sandy Hook album. It's around there, but it's a long time ago. All right.

So Sharon, we're going to ask Jim everything he thinks he knows about gun laws, gun control, and then I have some questions for him. And then after that, you're going to grade him 0 through 10, 10 being the best on his accuracy of his knowledge. Okay. Kelly's going to grade him on confidence 0 through 10. I'm going to grade him on

et cetera. We'll add those together. 21 through 30, if they add up to that, you'll be, I guess, you don't like freedom. 11 through 20, Charlton Heston. And 0 through 10, you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. That's that one. Very famous.

Yeah, I know that one. What year was the Second Amendment to the Constitution ratified? Fuck. I don't even know what that one. All right. What year was the Second Amendment to the Constitution ratified? Fuck. I don't know. I don't even know what that means. I don't need to know that, do I? What does it say?

What does the Second Amendment say? The right to bear arms. That's the whole amendment? No, there's more to it. There's like guns and stuff and swords. I don't know. It's the right to bear arms. Okay.

So this is something in it. What is a well-regulated militia? What does that mean? That is the people get to fight up against the tyrannical government. And that's why they believe their right to bear arms. It's never been for home security as such, but it's in case the government start coming into your house. Do you want the

queen to come through your window and take all your shit no you don't forest if you're a hoarder get a gun yeah okay um when was the nra created and why was it created the national rifle association was created so that uh yeah it was it was a sporting group i believe to begin with which is just like gun enthusiasts that were just like, hey, you should have a gun. It's like joining a racket club or something like that. And it would have been created, I want to say, 80 years ago, probably after the Second World War.

They probably started that up. Okay. In 1934, the National Firearms Act was implemented. What was the catalyst? What year? 1934. Oh, 1934, the National Firearms Act was implemented. What was the catalyst? What year? 1934. Oh, 1934. That would have been the beginning of the Second World War.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, well, it was about to kick off. That was the reason why? They were like, oh, the Germans are getting too much, and we'll get some guns. Do you know anything about the law or no? No. Okay.

If it's not in the routine, I don't know. In general, this is true or false. In general, gun laws are made at the federal level, but it is left up to the states to decide

in the United States. True or false? I would say that's true. Okay. And when were background checks introduced? Well, never in some states,

but I'm going to say they were introduced in the seventies. Okay. Um, which president pushed Congress for the gun control act and why? Um, Oh, I missed a question.

What was the gun control act? Like what was the gun control act? I believe it's when they tried to bring gun control after a massacre, probably. And I would say that would be President Obama, and it would have been after Sandy Hook. Okay. What is notable about how Lee Harvey Oswald

obtained the gun to assassinate JFK? He bought it with Dodge coin. Wow, he was so out of his time. There's a lot of Dodge coins. Okay, so what was, like, about how he obtained the gun? Do you know anything about how he got the gun to assassinate? He was like, I believe he was like sort of into communism and stuff like that. He sort of sided with the Russians or what have you.

It was something like that. So I'm going to say that he bought on the black market. Okay. What is a concealed carry? Concealed carry means that you can carry a gun as long as it's not out in the open. But you're like in some states, everyone's allowed to do it. In other states, you have to get a special permit to be able to do it. Okay.

And then what is an assault weapon? What's the definition of that? An assault weapon is a gun that can hold large rounds of bullets fired in bursts, not fully automatic, but semi-automatic. The rest are friendly weapons. Yeah, yeah. The rest of them give you compliments.

Yeah. Which law prohibits felons from owning or possessing guns or ammunition? Do you know? No. Okay. We'll know? No. Okay. We'll have a conversation. My routine is what you call common sense things about guns. I see people getting shot and I think that's silly.

And I've lived in other countries where we don't have guns and I realize that it's quite safe and no one really misses them. That's where all my information comes from. Okay. A couple more questions. We'll just have a conversation. Which president has been the toughest on gun laws? In modern history? Yeah. Just ever. The toughest on gun laws? In modern history?

Yeah. Just ever. The toughest on gun laws? Pre-Jesus. I'll say Obama. Okay. And how long does it take to purchase a gun on average

in the United States? What state? Good question. I don't know. I know in California you have to get a background check and the check takes a couple of days and then you can come back

and get your gun. So this is the last question. 44 states have a provision in their state constitution similar to the second amendment to the United States constitution, which protects the right to keep and bear arms. Can you name three exceptions to that states that do not have that in their state constitution? I'm going to say Hawaii. I won't say Alaska. That'll be gun-toting. I'll say Washington.

And I'm going to say New York State. Okay. Let's just talk to Sharon. They weren't questions in my wheelhouse. They were all just like, what law and what year? Bloody hell, I'm not a red person. Okay, what do you want me to ask you? Tell us some more stuff about gun laws.

Ask me what happened to Oscar Pistorius. I've got a bit on that. Well, say anything else about gun laws that you think. No, I've got nothing. Okay. If you ask me about the Australian gun laws and when Australia bought in gun control and stuff like that, I'd have a few answers, but I don't have any answers to these. Like

when was this legislation? When was that legislation? We're going to learn. Let's get some real answers. All right, Sharon, how'd Jim do? Zero through ten. Ten's the best. Not good. Can we shoot him? I would say, you know what? I'd give him a six. Wow. What are you listening to? He has some, you know, like there's some fuzzy

gray areas about years and things like that, but some general concepts I think he understands. I'm giving him a zero for confidence. God, this is going to ruin the one thing that I have in my career. Don't worry, I'm going to give you a hundred, etc.

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This is the exact text of the Second Amendment, which is one sentence long a lot of people think that the constitution is like some it's like hamlet takes four hours to read it and in reality it's not that long so what it says is a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Yeah. And that's caused a lot of controversy.

It's really up to interpretation. It has. What does that mean? I mean, I don't know. What is a well-regulated militia? How do we interpret that? Ted Mugin and his mates. Can't scratch fever.

I mean, that's the million dollar question is what exactly is a well-regulated militia? What exactly does it mean to keep and bear arms? Are we talking about like muskets and swords? Are we talking about an F-16? Are we talking about if I can make an atomic weapon at home, if I have that capability, am I free to do that? Because that's not going to infringe on my rights. So those are the two things that the Supreme Court has really wrestled with over the course of the United States. What exactly is a well-regulated militia and what does

it mean to keep and bear arms? So there is not one definition that the Supreme Court has said, and now we shall define well-regulated militia. The Supreme Court's understanding of that topic has changed dramatically over the last 150, 200 years. What they said in the past is not what they say now. Right, right. So it's complicated. But it is weird because I've, and some of the amendments in the constitution are longer than a sentence.

It seems like they go into a little more detail. This one, they're just like, yeah, just throw this in. Yeah. Second one. Yeah, they'll know what we're talking about. It's very clear. Kind of, yes. Kind of, yes. You're actually not that far off. They kind of put it in there because it wasn't controversial. If it was something that was really difficult or a new concept, they would have gone into greater detail about it. So the thinking is, because it was so widely accepted, like, yeah, of course, people, but we need a well-regulated militia. Who do you

think just fought the American revolution? Duh. So because that was the prevalent mindset, they just like, just included one sentence. And also it was the second one. So obviously that was like, oh, we'll get rid of the easy ones quickly. And also it was the second one. So obviously that was like, I will get rid of the easy ones quickly. Yeah. And then like number 26 is like hats. You can wear them if you want. That's my favorite.

A well-dressed militia. Yeah. You know what? I was just thinking, and I'm not saying that you, maybe you don't have the answer to this or not, but how many mass murders were there back then? I know there was war was just thinking, and I'm not saying that maybe you don't have the answer to this or not, but how many mass murders were there back then? I know there was war was going on, but when just run-of-the-mill life was going on,

were there people, like, was it like, ah, this pub, four people were shot? It feels like people were more responsible. I've got a musket joke. Yeah. It takes a long time to reload. You can't do the mass shootings. You have to bring several muskets and really go for it. Oh, right.

Yeah, but I've seen the picture. And by the time you load it, you calm down. By the time you load it, you can calm down. You go, ah, you're all right. Yeah. I just feel like people were more responsible back then with their guns. What about the wild west? Also, the schools weren't as packed.

People couldn't read and shit. There was no one at school. Okay. Eesh. When was the NRA created created i can't speak today nra national rifle association created and why it was created after the civil war after the civil war as a way to you know try to help people and maintain their it was a recreational organization to help people and maintain their... It was a recreational organization and help people maintain their skills

in relationship to weapons use. But it was really more like a club, right? Like we like to do these things. So let's have fun doing it. I was right. It was like a sporting club. It happened after the Civil War. And they were like,

we've got guns, keep your guns. They also had another group called Gang Green, for all the people who had come back with lost a foot. They had a special club. Yeah, that joke could have gone better. I don't know why they call it the Civil War. They didn't seem to get along. They should have called it the Uncivil War, am I right?

So the NRA, was it like a shooting range, or was it just a social group that they started with? Let me guess, were women allowed in? It was just men, right? Just the white men. All right. Just the white men. Yeah, it was not it wasn't necessarily like shooting ranges, because, again, think about weapons technology in the mid-1800s right you don't we don't have the ability to go to a shooting range like think of how long it would take to fire 10 shots in the mid-1800s like how long how many hours do we have to do this but yeah they wanted people to keep their skills up now what like okay before Civil War, they didn't have the NRA,

and then they did have the NRA. Did it really serve a purpose? Couldn't people just get together and make their own little private clubs and keep their skills up and go shooting with mates? Why did we need a national thing? They absolutely could do that. There's nothing that would prevent them, and we still have those things, clearly. Now, the mission of the NRA has just changed dramatically over the years. It's changed even since the JFK assassination. Their perspective on what gun control should be in the early 1960s after JFK was assassinated was, yeah, we need gun control. We don't want men like Lee Harvey Oswald to have weapons.

They advocated for gun control. I would like to change one of my answers to Lyndon Johnson. Good. That was the correct answer. I would like to change one to Lyndon Johnson. That's exactly right. Right now. Yeah,

that's exactly right. Gave you a hundred on et cetera. What do you want? In 1934, the national firearms act was implemented. What was the catalyst? What did the law implement? I don't think Jim got this one. No. Oh, it was so post Valentine's day massacre, which was a mass shooting that happened in Chicago in the early 1930s.

in Chicago in the early 1930s. And it was four men who this was during the kind of time of Al Capone gangsters, which happened post prohibition. You know, like a lot of organized crime happened as a result of the prohibition amendment where alcohol was made essentially illegal in the United States. So a lot of organized crimes surrounding the manufactured transport and what was now illegal and that everyone still wanted. Turns out people didn't lose their desire to drink just because of the temperance movement. So four men went into a parking garage, shot up a bunch of people, and used machine guns to really obliterate them. It was not a single shot to the forehead. You guys are all dead. Many of them, they were unrecognizable. Their faces were gone. One of the things they decided to do, the shooters,

was two of them dressed up like police officers, and two of them were in plain clothes, so that when people came by to see what the heck had just happened, the two men dressed up as police officers pretended to arrest the other two men, and they were like, we got it. Thanks for checking. We have them in custody. And in reality, all four of them were the shooters. It's terribly evil, but brilliant. That is a really good plan. And were they drunk when they did it?

Because they were. I don't think so. I was pretty premeditated. Valentine's Day massacre. You think that's bad? I once broke up with a girl at Valentine's Day dinner. Oh, that was a hell of a scene. That's a massacre. A hell of a scene. Was that also your birthday dinner girl at Valentine's Day dinner. Oh, that was a hell of a scene. That's a massacre.

A hell of a scene. Was that also your birthday dinner? It was my birthday dinner because I feel like it was my birthday on Valentine's Day. My birthday trumps it. So I can break up with this girl now. We were having an argument during dinner and I went, oh, enough of that. Okay. You should have had a friend dress up like a cop and arrest you.

I gotta go. I've been arrested. I guess you have to break up. I don't know what I'm getting out. Don't wait for me. And so the law implemented that. So that law was passed and then it restricted fire use of guns in some way. What it did was prohibited the interstate commerce of machine guns.

Because again, this rise to national prominence of the machine guns used in that massacre, they decided no more interstate commerce because the Constitution gives Congress the right to regulate interstate commerce. No more transporting machine guns, buying, selling, crossing state lines of certain types of weapons. This was a true or false i think jim got it right in general gun laws are made at the federal level uh but then left up to the states set aside and you said true i said true yeah yeah so that's how it works good yeah yeah yes and no there are some federal laws there are some federal gun laws like they define what a machine gun is and that type of stuff. But a lot, the vast majority of weapons regulations, guns regulations occur at the state level. And like you were saying, in some states like California, they have 40 plus gun laws,

and some states have one. So there's a wide disparity between the philosophies of states about who should have guns, when it's OK to have them, how easy is it to buy them, how many is OK? You know, all that stuff. Yeah, I was looking up the gun laws from state to state. And, you know, you assume that there are obviously states that have lax, lax laws, but so many of them. I was like, you don't have to have a background check, no registration. Like there literally are just no regulations on anything whatsoever, and that's mind-blowing. Because there's no regulation on freedom. Do you have to have a certificate to breathe?

No. No, because that's your right. But I have a driver's license to drive and stuff like that. That's not in the Constitution. No, no, no, no. No one promised that you could drive a car in the Constitution. That's your choice the Constitution. No, no, no, no, no. No one promised that you could drive a car in the Constitution. That's your choice. I see.

Didn't Texas just pass some law where it's like, just do whatever you want now? Yep. Yep. Literally. The do whatever you want law. We've got two laws. First law, there is no law.

Second law, see first law. Yes. Can you explain what this new law i i heard about it a little bit but let us know like what they actually say in this law so in by the way this is not the only state that has this law there are other states that have the same same idea which is you don't need a license you don't need a registration. You can open carry and concealed carry. Both. So feel free to put one in your purse and strap one on your back and take them wherever you want.

I always feel safer when somebody has a machine gun. I've seen a guy with a machine gun. He's back in like a target or something. When I was in Texas once. It blew my mind as an Australian. Very unnerving. What states? So I don't go?

Texas is one of them. Indiana, surprisingly, is another one. Yeah, yeah. And that's why they say Chicago has most of the hardest gun control and they've got some of the worst gun crime. And it's like Indiana's right there. It's not an island. It's like, it's like, like Chicago down to Gary is like a 15 minute drive.

You know what I mean? Like, of course they can bring guns straight up. We did a, we did a segment on guns in Chicago on your show and to find out that Chicago wasn't like, was not even in the top 10 10 of the most violent gun crime and stuff like that. The number one place to get shot, if I remember correctly, is St. Louis. Is your number one shooting town or something like that. Yeah, if you would have asked me about that, I knew you that way. We did a thing like we did the south side of Chicago.

And so I was there. What was his name? It was Dubop or something. Oh, there's Lil Baby and that was Dubop yeah Dubop there was Dubop there was Lil Baby later

yeah there was a rapper who drove around with me around the south side of Chicago and he showed me all the different places that type of stuff and he was packing a gun while we were on TV

in case fucking shit went down I'm like we've got cameras no one shoots anyone on camera do they? yeah I mean have you seen the news unless you're a police officer of course uh doo-wop that was his name um uh okay so this kind of leads into this when when were background checks introduced or i guess is that like was

that a federal or state thing or how's that yeah so every state is allowed to decide if they want to have background checks. So Texas has decided no background checks. Just go ahead and buy one. It's totally fine. Just to stop just for a second with no background checks, with no, like you're saying zero. So if you're blind or let's say if you're severely mentally challenged, you have the mind of a child. No background check for that person either. You can have your right to own a gun revoked if a judge thinks you are not capable of gun ownership. But it has to go to a judge. So that's a process, right?

Yes. So if you're a hardcore drug addict, you're mentally incapacitated, you're a violent felon, then your right to gun ownership can be revoked. But the assumption is that you have the right until it is explicitly removed from you in those states. So the idea of background checks didn't come about until the 1990s um when when bill clinton was in office after the um press secretary of ronald reagan brady was shot in the line of duty and so then you maybe have heard of the brady handgun bill there's still a brady organization that works for gun control.

That was the one where Cindy found the gun in the safe. Yes. It was a good learning episode, that one. Yes. Yes. You get, give it to the, give it to Alice, the housekeeper. That's the answer. It would have been the butcher's gun. He would have left it around when he's coming over to bang Alice one time. So, before that, before the 1990s, we didn't necessarily even have the technology to be able to do instant background checks.

So, the background check database was created in the early 90s. And it's, you know, maintained by the FBI. And it's like the instant background check database. Well, I think we did a piece on this, or maybe someone else did a piece that I watched or something. Is it true that all records and guns are still kept on paper and not on computers because the NRA have sort of forced their hand on that one so that it makes it harder to find things? Not all records, but what they, there are laws prohibiting are things that connect the databases of every state. So what they don't want and what lobbying organizations have done is created a system that specifically prohibits the gun database of Alabama from connecting directly to the gun database of Mississippi,

that they don't want that interconnectedness because they don't want the idea that an average everyday American can be tracked that readily. Also the database in Alabama is just a lot of strings and cans. I've got an idea for guns because I don't think we'll ever get to a stage where we'll all agree or they'll ever get rid of the Second Amendment or they'll ever really bring in real worthwhile gun control on a federal basis. Am I stupid in saying this?

Kelly brought up the idea of, but I still get to have a license to drive a car. I'm not even saying you have to get a license, right? If you own a car, okay, if you own a gun, you should have to get insurance on it. And so it's like if anything bad happens to that gun, it's involved in a shooting or something like that, or it's stolen and you don't report it, then it's on you

and stuff like that. That would keep people sort of in check with, you know, I can't have 15 guns because I can't afford the insurance. I can just have two, you know what I mean? Or you get a bundle plan, of course, right? But is that a terrible idea? Has anyone ever said that before? Because that seems like a sort of easy way to track people, plus keep people accountable for their guns. Plus, if a gun hasn't got a registration, if someone says, can I please see your gun and it hasn't got the right number and that matches up with your insurance,

the same thing as a car. Because gun people always go, well, what's to stop me getting my car and just driving into people? Because cars don't kill people, people kill people. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. So is that ever being proposed or am i just a genius i mean obviously yeah you're a genius yes thank you um no i think one of the challenges is of course does the insurance come does the insurance industry want to begin insuring guns that is the bigger question yeah but it'd be like it'd be like you

know crash premium you know you're like, you know, crash premium. You know, you're like, oh, you shot a person. That's going to pump me bloody premiums up. Fuck it all. It is a good deterrent from like speeding and getting tickets and stuff like that. The thing is, is that no law is ever going to prevent 100% of crimes. Just because murder is illegal doesn't mean that murders don't happen, right? So no, just because seatbelts are the law

doesn't mean everyone wears a seatbelt. So the argument that, well, people will still illegally use guns. Yes, they will. They will still illegally use guns, but there are, then it's an additional level of deterrent for some people. And it also gives you additional tools with which to prosecute them when you have these kinds of

laws. Yeah. I've always thought the whole like, like people who guns don't kill people, people kill people. It's yeah. But they kill people a lot faster with the guns. You know what I mean? Like that Nicholas Cruz, he did the thing in Florida and all that type of stuff. He wasn't going to kill all those kids just running around with a knife or anything like that. It's got to be

the weakest argument. Well, and so much of your stand-up is the argument, just be honest about the argument, is I like having guns. I like guns.

I enjoy going to a shooting range. I think it's fun. Like my friends are opening like a white glove kind of shooting range outside of Denver

right now called The Gallery no fingerprints sounds good yeah but you can go there it's kind of like Topgolf it's a weed shop

shooting gun you can't drink until after you've shot but you go and you have your lane and you have people taking care of you and showing you the guns

wait a second you can drink after after yeah I believe I've shot a gun drunk I think I went to

a shooting range once and I don't have any drinks or anything they won't check out a shooting range but if you were having a bar with a shooting range

they'd definitely have to send someone a proton gun I just had a hip flask on me one of those helmets with two beer cans don't worry

it's soda but yeah it can be totally fun to shoot and you shot with Rob O'Neill and you went out to the range

I once I once went shooting with Rob O'Neill Rob O'Neill's the guy who shot Bin Laden he's a Navy SEAL he's also a Navy SEAL I know

he's trained trained with firearms he didn't just shoot him by accident some of Bin Laden's his gun just went off on his hip but I would like to say

for the record so at the end at the end of the thing we talked about the guns I would like to say for the record, so at the end of the thing, we talked about the guns and all that type of stuff with Rob, and then at the end of it we wanted to do a piece where we just finished up, we had sniper rifles, and these bullets were like two inches long, these big massive bullets. And what was happening is to finish off we were both going to shoot a watermelon. And Rob, I don't know if he tells the truth about it.

I think he did tell the truth about it on the podcast here once when we had him on. But I shot my watermelon, Rob missed. So I'm just saying, if you had me as a Navy SEAL, this whole problem in the Middle East could have been solved a bit quicker. But if I remember correctly, he did say that the type of guns that he was using, like for him, Navy SEALs that are trained or people in the military are trained. That's okay. But for someone that does no training in those guns, I think he was on that side where he was like,

these assault rifles that, right. Or it was a self rifle that was on a prop, like a sniper. No, no, but I'm saying the other rifles too. Wasn't he kind of saying like,

yeah, only people that are trained should have these. Oh yeah. No, no. He, he, he sort of,

he, he, he, he looked, look, he has guns. He believes in the Second Amendment, but he believes in some control, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot harder to do drive-by bow and arrow shootings. What's a damper on it?

You got to practice. You need a friend with you. You can't be driving and do it. You can't steer. You need a passenger. You need a passenger. Right. When I was a kid, me and my brother, I don't know, we'd probably get arrested for it now,

but I remember we used to do drive-by moonings. My brother had just gotten his license and we were like, what can we do? We have to drive around and do something. And you can only have so many Slurpees in a day and go to all the different 7-Elevens. Like he was like 16 and had his license and I was like 12. So we would find weddings where people were coming out of the church

and we'd drive by and I'd hang my ass out the window. Fun. Oh, classy. But you know one died except from laughter. Which was you. Yeah. I got a few chunks of rice up my ass. It's probably.

The gun control act. It was about 14 minutes long. What was the Gun Control Act introduced to regulate and which president pushed Congress for the Gun Control Act? So that was created in the 1960s after the JFK assassination. So going back to back to Lyndon Johnson. Yes. That was when they more heavily, they prohibited people from purchasing guns via mail order, which is how Lee Harvey Oswald got his, got the gun that assassinated JFK from the back of a magazine. And the NRA was very in favor of the Gun Control Act. They said to President Johnson, like in the news, in an interview, we don't want people to be able to get guns out of the back of a magazine

because we don't want guns to be sold to the type of human being that would assassinate a sitting president of the United States. Oh, an ex-president, fine. So I imagine Lee Harvey Oswald was like this, all right, I'll buy a gun and some sea monkeys. It's a SkyMall magazine. No, no, the back of comic books used to be like sea monkeys, some x-ray glasses will probably work.

Some more spy equipment. Also, with the Kennedy assassination, we'll probably do an episode on that one day, I've been to Dallas. I've seen where it happened. All the people who go, oh, no, he couldn't have done it from the book depository. Yeah, I've been up there.

Easy, easy to do it from there. There was a clear shot. Also, also, also. But what about the grassy knoll? Yeah, but also he fired a bunch of shots. Why the fuck was he in a convertible, right? I asked my mother about this one. Why was he in a convertible?

She goes, oh, back then we didn't think about it. Presidents didn't get assassinated back then. Lincoln, what are you talking about? It's not a field. Yeah, France, Ferdinand, there's been people assassinated all over the fucking world. And they're going, oh, we do. It was just a more simpler time.

Also, what the fuck? How good was the real estate market back in the fucking 60s that a prime building in the middle of Dallas was used to store books? Like if anything should be in a warehouse out in the fucking boonies, it's a book depository, right? I don't even know what that is. I think they keep textbooks and stuff in there. Why did it get a tower right in the middle?

I know this isn't your forte, Sharon. It's just bothered me that people back in the 60s used to buy houses for the equivalent of $20,000 today and now they're all bitching and moaning about the kids today. They don't know what hard work is. Go fuck yourself with your cheap real estate. Texas has very few zoning laws. So you can, for example, just have cows in the middle of your subdivision if you have a yard that's big enough in many places in Texas. subdivision if you have a yard that's big enough in many places in Texas.

So that is something Texas is famous for is very, very lax zoning laws and a favor. Whatever you want to put, put here is fine. Texas truly is just the wild wild west. Have you been to where Kennedy was shot? There's a painted X on the road, right? And they reckon that one person every couple of years dies because it's a busy fucking road. And they stand on this X and they get run over all the time. They probably should just get next to it, just have a sign on the side.

Probably not an X on the road. Don't stand here. Yeah, and the X isn't like really like, there's no plaque or anything. It's just a spot with an X. Just an X. Marks the spot. Brains were blown out.

You want to take a picture here? Marks the spot. Yeah. That's like when I was in, I don't get why people want to take pictures. When I was in New Zealand in Christchurch, I went to where they had this memorial, but it was like a sculpture.

It was all these different chairs, and they each represented a person that had died in the earthquakes there. Sure. And it's all painted white. And everyone's kind of looking at it. It's very somber. And then just someone got in the middle of it

and went like this. Yeah! And took a picture. And we were standing there like like what are you doing thank you i was like oh yeah have you seen like the instagram models who take like like hot selfies at out switch and stuff like that and you're like what are you doing try to look somber in this picture will you or like at my grandma's funeral you're like okay looking cute um what is a concealed carry jim said that's when you can, what did you say?

You can have a gun on your person that is concealed and not as open carry as having it on your hip where everyone can see it. So you can just hide it basically, right? Yeah. I know some people who have concealed guns. In Florida, I thought there was like a law where like if you had a concealed weapon,

you're not allowed to expose it or something. And then some guy wanted, there was like an additional amendment they were trying to put onto this concealed carry. Like, so that I guess if it was under your shirt and you reach, I think this is what the guy said, and you reached up to get some cereal off the top shelf in the grocery store,

if your gun poked out, then that would still be legal or something. I don't know. But there's like, I guess there's just like, I don't know. I guess what's the problem with concealed carry though? It's just because it's hidden then. Right.

And we want to see them out in the open or we don't want to see them in the open or we just, you know, I don't know. Well, I mean, the problem is of course the matter, it's a matter of perspective, whether it's better to see what you have, you know, like I see that you have a gun. Thank you for letting me know. Or whether it's better to keep it hidden away. Of course, the downside to having it out in the open is that it potentially makes it easier to steal. Somebody can punch you in the face, steal your weapon. Whereas if it's tucked away, they don't know that you have it. And it doesn't also create the same level of, it's like you were saying, you saw somebody in Target with a machine gun on their back. That can sometimes be challenging for businesses when somebody comes in with a machine gun and everybody else is like, okay, bye-bye. And they want to back out of the

store. When we gig in Texas, I have a policy for my show that no one can carry a gun and we actually get the guns of the people. We tag them, put them in a bit of Tupperware and then we go, you can get them back at the end of class. You know what I mean? And people get really angry. Well, I'm not going into the show. I don't feel safe because I don't have my gun on me. But I've even been in bars in Texas where you see someone open carry a gun. Is there a law anywhere in America that says you can't have a gun when intoxicated? You know, I don't know that there are.

I couldn't say specifically. Because I reckon that'd be a good one. That'd be a good one. If you're drunk, let them have one. Yeah. I mean, I can't say that I have every single gun law in all 50 states memorized. So I can't definitively say,

absolutely, in this state, you may not have a gun while intoxicated. But I will say that a lot of states feel like it's not illegal to just have the gun. It is the reckless manner in which you use it that would be illegal. So not so much the like, I have it on my possession and I'm intoxicated. It would be endangering others with it. Because I've gotten blackout drunk once, probably. And what happens is when you wake up in the morning and you go, oh God, I can't remember anything. Oh, I'm a little fuzzy man. And the first thing you do, you check your phone. Who did I text? Now I'm such a mean drunk to

myself that I send texts and then delete them so that sober Jim won't know what he's done. That's the fucking worst. You're cheating yourself there, mate. Anyway, I imagine there'd be people who have guns. They get blackout drunk and they wake up like, oh, God, check me phone. Better check how many bullets I've still got. Right. Yeah. That would be a concern. That would be concerning.

There must be. You must be like people, you don't know what you do with your stuff. I always lose my fucking credit card or whatever every time I'm drunk. And then what is an assault weapon, Jim? you don't know what you do with your stuff. I always lose my fucking credit card or whatever. Every time I'm drunk in it. And then what is an assault weapon, Jim? I think you were saying that one that fires rapidly or one that fully automatic and semi-automatic,

but a semi-automatic one that can fire rapidly. They can hold multiple bullets. Yeah. Yeah. It has the definite federal government definition has to do with the number of rounds that can fit in the magazine and then the manner in which it shoots. So you're exactly right. All right. That's one of my points.

And the federal assault weapons ban started in the year blank. I didn't ask you this and expired in the in blank. Yeah, did I? Yeah. So why would I know that? Oh, I'm going to I'll say after. OK, so after Kennedy died and expired in 1976. So the federal assault weapons ban came under Reagan.

Reagan ran on this, you know, like he was very, he was very much like law abiding citizens should be able to own guns. Until he was shot. Right. But there's no, but there's no reason that they need to own assault weapons so that that those became illegal under reagan and then that was later repealed when george w bush was in office oh wow so yeah i wouldn't have thought reagan would have i guess that makes sense and was that

was that just repealed because of the nra's pressure or was George Bush, was he just a big fan of guns and he did that on his own merit? Was it lobbying or was it just government? So obviously Bush being from Texas had probably a certain perspective on weapons. But what started happening in the early 2000s was that different cities, like the city of Chicago, started suing gun manufacturers, saying, your product is killing our citizens. And gun manufacturers started running scared about this idea that they were going to be bankrupted from lawsuits from various cities or states. So as a kind of a package deal, they declined to renew the assault weapons ban, which had a sunset provision that expired every 10 years. And then they also created immunity for gun manufacturers during

that time period as well. But they did like to kind of appease people on the other side, that was when they invented or that was when they required, I should say, child locks. Like all of that kind of came at one time under George W. Bush. Child locks, All of that kind of came at one time under George W. Bush. Child locks, assault weapons are back on, and immunity for gun manufacturers. This is a little bit from left field. Okay, so the whole world knows about America and its guns,

and the worldview, in my experience, just from traveling and doing comedy on top of stuff and talking about guns, is that Americans are a little bit crazy about their guns, right? Is there any other country that has, what other countries, no, there are some, what other countries have similar gun laws to America? Because I knew Australia did have guns, then the Port Arthur happened and then the guns, the gun ban came in, et cetera, et cetera. But like, I know like Israel, you can carry guns or, but I don't know, maybe they have

more background checks. Is, is that, let me put this question away to please a lot of Americans. Is there any other countries that are as free as America? So I wouldn't say that they are as free as we are in Texas, but another country that has a ton of guns is Canada. Yeah. Canada has tons of guns. And they also, but they do not have the gun violence that we have.

And why is that? Just politeness or what's the reason for that? Yeah, they would feel the need to apologize to everyone they shot, maybe. Yes. That's a great, I mean,'s a million-dollar question, right? Why Canada, who has per capita gun ownership very similar to the United States, yet has massively lower gun violence, what is it about Canada that creates those conditions? I don't think there's one thing you can point to,

to be like, well, it's definitely this. Some sociologists would say it has to do with reduced poverty. And that a lot of times when you have that disparity between haves and have-nots, which we strongly do in the United States, that that creates conditions in which violence can fester. Whereas in other countries that don't have that income disparity, you don't have the same propensity to violence. This is just like perhaps one, one teeny portion of an explanation for it. It could be as simple as universal healthcare.

The fact that all Canadians are like, oh, why bother even shooting me? He's just going to get healed back up again. Thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you for that. Accurate. Also, I will say this about the old guns, right?

Living in Britain and living in Australia, you definitely feel safer in both countries that you're not going to die. But in America, you feel safer in a bar. England feels like it could crack off at any second when you're in a bar having an argument and you could get glassed in the face, right? I've never had the threat of someone shoving a bottle into the side of my neck in America because I think like everyone's like, well, someone in here might have a gun.

I don't know if that's real, but that's how I just feel. You know what I mean? And Australia feels a bit more brawly. So I will give it up for the guns. Thanks for not letting me get punched in the head as often. Yeah. There's never any fights in bars in America. We'll replay this clip when you get shot. No, but head as often. Yeah, there's never any fights in bars in America. We'll replay this clip when you get shot in a bar.

No, but not as much. There seems to be a lot of pushy, pushy arguments. Like, hey, buddy, don't you talk to my girl. Yeah, and Britain seems like, Britain's always like, it's like a tinderbox is ready to go in every bar. You're like, you got to get your wits about you. It's going to crack off the guy. Because even if a fight breaks out,

only blokes with sticks are rocking up to go, hey, what are you doing? Which president has been toughest on gun laws? Jim said Obama. I would argue that it's Lyndon Johnson who created, you know, or who didn't he didn't create them, but he really pushed for the Gun Control Act. Obama certainly was not a fan of guns, but we didn't have that kind of revolution in gun control that we had under Lyndon Johnson

Would it be fair to say that guns are more popular now than they were in the 60s I feel like even in the time I've lived here with the massacres they get more and more popular and people, freedom, freedom, freedom and I think with the internet and conspiracies and the governments coming to get you and all that type of stuff, were maybe people in the 60s a little bit more trusting of their governments and stuff like that and therefore not as nervous and paranoid to have guns all the time?

Or is that bullshit? I think that's completely right. And it has a lot to do with the idea that now you feel like you need a gun for protection because the world is going to hell in a handbasket. Yeah. That's how it feels. And that may not even be borne out in facts, but the Internet sure makes it feel like it's real. Oh, yeah. You watch CNN or Fox News, the world's a disaster and you're not safe and people are coming to get you.

Because fear sells everything. Yeah. disaster and you're not safe and people are coming to keep people. Fear sells everything. I mean, you, if you make people afraid, you will sell whatever product you're doing, whether it's a TV show or a gun or whatever.

And you were talking about how the gun companies were saying it gets, has anyone ever successfully sued a gun company? And like the cigarette businesses, has there been any whistleblowers or people who are in the gun world who have now since denounced their former jobs? Yeah. They, the city of Chicago sued a gun manufacturer. You're not allowed to have, you don't have immunity if something goes wrong with your gun. If it's poorly manufactured and it's broken, something happens that does not grant you immunity. But, you know, like the lawsuit against, say, R.J. Reynolds, the cigarette company, it was the government suing the cigarette company for intentionally misleading people about the safety of their product.

So the gun companies are not telling anybody that their product is safe. telling anybody that their product is safe. There's no misleading happening, I would argue. Nobody is like, this is a perfectly safe gun. You can have it around your three-year-old. No problem. No one's saying that. The assumption is this is an unsafe tool that you need to protect, that you need to keep safe on your own. And so consequently, no, the government has not stepped in and, you know, sued gun manufacturers on behalf of the American people. Speaking of the government's role, can we talk really quickly? Because every election, you know, there's the fear that if a Democrat's elected, they're coming to take our guns. Can we talk really quickly about what the president actually has in terms of an arsenal to do these types of things.

They can't just sign an executive order to say, we're taking your guns, correct? No. Okay. Not even a little bit. I mean, the second amendment is, it would be, you could repeal the second amendment, but what it would take would be two thirdsthirds of the Senate, two-thirds of the House of Representatives, plus three-quarters of the state legislatures. So it'll never happen.

Correct. They would all have to say yes. And a president would not even be involved in that. Like the constitutional amendment process, presidents have nothing to do with that. They don't have to sign it. They don't have to agree with it. That's done solely by Congress and the states. A president can write executive orders, but executive orders cannot violate the Constitution.

Until the Constitution itself is changed by Congress and the states, no president would be able to come in and be like, listen, guns are crap. Signing an executive order, they're all illegal. That's not a thing that can happen in the United States. And that's like the biggest argument, really. It's people, they're coming to take our guns. It's like, it's not happening. The answer is more guns.

You get more guns and everyone feels safe. It's like the Cold War. The more nuclear bombs we had, no one ever fired one. It was all good. But right now, people that are selling guns are selling a lot of guns because when Biden gets up, they enjoy that. They

say they don't like it, but I feel like gun manufacturers and people who sell guns when there's a Democratic president, they're like, cha-ching. Good for business. Good for business. Now, this is more for our foreign listeners, people in Australiaralia and britain who listen to the podcast and we have one bloke in italy um uh how young can an american be

to legally own a gun how how how young can a child fire a gun in some states you can get a gun license for things like hunting when you're 12, but you can't own it yourself. It would need to belong to like a parent or a legal guardian, but you could get a license to fire it under certain circumstances with adult supervision when you're 12. But otherwise, when you turn 18, you can purchase a gun. But didn't I see footage of, I think it was a firing range where the instructor got shot by a little girl who was maybe six or seven or something like that. And the parents were sitting there, didn't you?

I don't want to bring that up again. No, I don't think I saw that. I believe you can shoot one at a firing range at a younger age. That might be possible. Yeah. Yeah, that might be possible. But yes, or yes, people do it illegally. Yeah.

Yeah, because you see those videos and it's like a young girl or boy. I was just a six-year-old criminal. I got a gun for Christmas. And they're like, how old are you? They're like, it's safe. I know this is a state-by-state thing, or I guess maybe it is. How long does it take to purchase a gun on average? Like maybe by state.

Like Jim said, California needs a background check. So like Texas, can you get it same day versus California it takes? Yes. Yes. Yes. Some places have waiting periods of 24 hours or 48 hours, but a lot of states you can buy one the same day if you pass the background check. Yeah, I think California is a couple of days.

Because there was a scene in Legit with Rodney, and everyone knows the character Rodney in Legit. But anyway. It was mentally challenged. It was mentally challenged. It was mentally challenged. But we filmed the episode in the gun store and I said to Blake, I said, how long does it take to get a gun? He goes, well, you have to pass a background check.

And then he goes, and I go, oh, yeah. And he goes, it's 48 hours. And I go, how hard is it to pass that test? And he goes, if you can wash yourself, you'll be able to pass the test. Right? That's what the gun shop guy said, right? So we put that in the test? And he goes, if you can wash yourself, you'll be able to pass the test, right? That's what the gun shop guy said, right? So we put that in the script and the guy goes, if you can wash yourself, you'll be able to pass the test. And Rodney went, damn.

Well, don't you remember when we were in Texas and the guy wanted to sell you a gun? Yeah, I went into a gun store. I'm not welcome in gun stores. It was like a gun shack. It was like a shack. Come on down to the gun shack. He goes, I want to sell you the gun. I want not welcome in gun stores. It was like a gun shack. It was like a shack. Come on down to the gun shack. He goes, I want to sell you the gun.

I want to sell you the gun. He goes, you just give me your license. And I had a California license. By the way, it was an AR-15, I think. Yeah, yeah. I thought, I'll buy one of those. $1,000, AR-15, right? And I went, all right.

I wasn't going to buy it. I was going to get to the register and change my mind. But I wanted to see how easy it was. And the guy goes, no problem. Then I gave him the license. And he sort of looked at me like, ah, this is one of them Jew states. That's not going to. He said that?

No, he didn't say it. No, he didn't say it. What happened was we're in the store, and then, Jim, because you wanted to find out the price for your routine. Yeah, yeah. You wanted to make sure you had the same price. And then you were trying to make all the excuses at the end, too. You're like, yeah, but I'm from Australia.

He goes, yeah, it doesn't matter. You go, I'm not a citizen of the country. It doesn't matter. like, yeah, but I'm from Australia. He goes, yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm not a citizen of the country. It doesn't matter. And you're like, I'm from California. And he took the gun back for me. He grabbed the gun and goes, give me that back there. But he really wanted to sell it to you. 44 states have a provision in their state constitution similar to the

Second Amendment, which protects the rights to bear arms. I asked you to name three even remember what'd you say hawaii washington and new york he said yeah yeah new york was right all right york was right so new york new jersey minnesota um iowa california and maryland i know a guy who has a concealed um weapons carrying in new york he just walks around with a gun i think i can say his name anthony cumia yeah he's from I know a guy who has a concealed weapons carrying in New York. He just walks around with a gun. I think I can say his name, Anthony Cumia. Yeah, he's from Opium Anthony.

I don't think this is concealed, though. This is just like, this is like. Additional state protection to protect your right to gun ownership. Should anything ever happen to the second amendment, all 44 of those states protect your right to own a gun. So even if two thirds of both houses of Congress and three quarters of the states, again, which is not going to happen, wanted to repeal the Second Amendment, 44 out of 50 states would continue to protect your right to own a gun. That's crazy. Not Hawaii, though.

Not Hawaii. Where do you conceal it? You're never wearing a winter coat. You can't put it in that little pocket on the shirt. You can stick it on your sandal. Yeah, your little sandal strap right there. There you go. Aloha just falls out from your armpit. Okay, this is a part of the show called Dinner Party Facts.

We ask our guests to give us some sort of fact, whether it's obscure or interesting, that you don't think people might know about gun control or gun laws that they can use to impress people. I love it. So a couple of Supreme Court cases earlier in the United States in which both times the Supreme Court came back and said, there is no such thing as a federal individual right to own a gun. has changed now. But one such case was the United States versus Cruikshank, in which two men both claimed that they had won the election for the governorship of Louisiana. They both went through the motions of like, I've been sworn in now. I got me a cabinet. We're going to start passing some laws. I'm the governor. And the president of the United States had to get involved and sent federal troops to say, actually, we think the winner is this guy and the rest of y'all can go away. And it led to this big, giant massacre, a race massacre between Black Republicans

who had been recently freed by the Civil War and white Southern Democrats who surrounded them in a courthouse and massacred many of the people inside. And one of the repercussions of that massacre was that nine people were prosecuted for murder and attempted murder. Their case was appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court said there is no federal individual right to gun ownership under the Second Amendment. Wow. Imagine that, like someone debating the results of an election. Yeah, imagine that.

Sounds violent. Yeah, and then people getting violent about it. Yeah, yeah. That'll never happen again. They used guns, and there was, like, racial tension involved. I'm so glad we're past that. Yes, we have moved on as a country. We've moved far on past that, yes.

It's called freedom. All right, well, thank you for being here sharon uh yes sharon says so on instagram go follow her and um i don't know if there's anything else you'd like to say or promote or anything like that before you know thank you so much for having me thanks for being on the podcast oh ladies and gentlemen if you're ever at a party and someone comes up to you and goes do you know that I'm legally allowed to carry a gun in the state of Virginia and concealed and non-concealed? And you go, I don't know about that. I'm not sure.

Good night, Australia.