I Don't Know About That - Water Quality with Erin Brockovich

Episode Date: December 1, 2020

In this episode, the team discusses water quality with consumer advocate, environmental activist, and author of "Superman's Not Coming: Our National Water Crisis and What We the People Can Do About It", Erin Brockovich.Go to www.brockovich.com to purchase Erin's new book!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we're doing another episode. We've had some fun weeks. The election's still not called. Maybe by the time that this has happened, we'll have done. Come on. It won't be. We could be recording this in 2022. Trump is going to find some votes from dead people.

Yeah. Yeah. I find it funny that Trump's like this. They're stealing it. They're stealing it. But your team could do the same thing. Like, what are you talking about? You're the one who seems to have all these methods.

This podcast comes out December 1st. Hopefully, we'll know by then. But who knows? And I'm tired of people. December 1st. All the trees are up. You must have it. How was your thanksgiving you had a wonderful time and then oh now you're thinking oh i should get some presents but i don't want to go down to the shopping center where can i get them get them online you're fucking moron someone will be upset that we

record this early too that's yeah why do they record these early shut up so that we can forever to put it together yeah so that we can have Christmas day off and things like that. We never have weeks off. We do them every week. We're always here. For you, the listener of people at home or you sitting in your car or that one listener in Turkey. How are you doing?

We can read the stats. We know what you're up to. He's off there making his falafel going, that Jim Jefferies, he cracks me up forest a bit grumpy that's that's what he writes i don't know do you want to tell people about your new glasses i'm i've got new glasses i i i couldn't read for the longest time and uh so i went to the optometrist and they said i was blind so now my glasses where i'm not going to wear them on stage but i'm going to wear them in my regular life. They're a little big.

They're a little big for my head. It takes a while to get used to them too. Yeah, and they're sliding on my nose a little bit. They're firm enough, but I have a greasy nose. They look good though. Yeah. It's a good look. My wife loves them.

She's been. Oh, now she can sleep with a sexy intellectual. Yeah. Yeah, she's now like, oh, baby, when I came came in she thinks that i'm way hotter like this so it's just someone different in it it's like it's a superman effect you walked in she thought you were somebody else but it's it's like when your wife dyes their hair blonde or something you're like oh a different woman you know i mean that's all it is i'm a different person for the day so she's happy she will grow tired of this rather quickly they kind of look like elvis costello glasses elvis costello yeah i guess yeah i was saying weezer weezer yeah i think i look like

ricky vaughn from from uh league of their own major league yeah league of their own he was the catcher yeah they they bring out charlie sheen just to throw fucking headshots. Oh, fucking hell, you've killed Madonna. Oh, Gina Davis has a concussion. It's a great movie, by the way. It is. Tom Hanks. I haven't seen it.

What? It's a movie about women's baseball, and I just said the one guy that said it. Tom Hanks. Yeah, Tom Hanks crushed it. When they go to war, people wanted to still watch baseball, so they started the women's league. Well, the women's league got more exciting or whatever, and Madonna was playing for the team.

People thought they were crazy. It would never work. Yeah. And it did. The last time I watched it, I was in Italy, and I was just in a little cafe by myself because my mom and my brother were on a tour, and I was just sitting there in the cafe crying. It's really good.

You're going to love it. They did their own. It's good, and it's funny. I cafe crying. It's really good. You're going to love it. They do their own. It's good and it's funny. I don't think I've seen it. I'm going to watch it. You've never seen it? I know of the film. I just never watched it.

Oh, it's good. It's really good. There's no crying in baseball. I know there's no crying in baseball. That's what that's from. So there's one when they're going around and getting all the women, like recruiting them.

John Lovitz is actually the, he's the recruiter. And there's one woman that's, that Marla Hooch, and she's like, can hit home runs, whatever. And they're like,

she's not much of a looker. And they show her. Rosie O'Donnell, right? She's not even that. No, no, it's not Rosie O'Donnell.

She's not ugly at all. They're like, oh, you're supposed to be like that. It's like, she's like just normal looking. She's an average looking woman. I talk about Rosie O'Donnell,

right? Because one time I got on a plane, and this is no word of a lie, we were in business class, and the three seats in business class next to each other, me, Rosie O'Donnell, and Jeremy Piven. Oh, wow. What a motley crew.

You guys all here together? No. Who was the angriest out of you three? We were all sitting with each other trying to get along. I don't know. We all got along pretty good. Yeah. Oh, you guys chatted it up?

Yeah, we chatted it up. Yeah. That's an interesting flight. All right, Jack. What do you got for us today? Today we're revisiting the segment Now I Know About That. Maybe.

Is there a theme song? Now I Know About That. No one has made one. What's it supposed to be? Now I Know About That. Maybe. Yeah, a theme song? No one has made one. What's it supposed to be? Now I know about that. Maybe. Yeah, something like that. Just throwing it out there.

I've got another theme song for the other, for the common word I sent it to you. Yeah, I got it. Those are coming in like gangbusters. Now I know about that maybe. We never asked for a theme song. I said maybe. Maybe. Now I know about that.

Yeah, there you go. That's good. We'll just have you do it every time. So today's subject, we're revisiting the sharks episode, which is episode 18 with our expert who is an attack survivor, Paul DeGelder. Yeah, I remember Paul. Question number one. He was missing a leg. Both.

Both. Everyone's right. Well, we're already failing. We don't even remember what body part. No, both were right. So, so far, so good. First question. Is a shark a fish?

It is not. It is. Oh, God, it is. In the podcast, you were adamant it was a fish. You turned out to be right. It is a fish. It is a fish, yeah. All we've learned is that this podcast is lowering his confidence.

You got it right. I feel like all my natural instincts are wrong. He knows less than he did before. You even said it like you got it wrong. It isn't. Wrong again. It is a fish. It's in the classification of a lasmo branch.

Oh, yeah, yeah. A lasmo branch. We all remember that part. Yeah, yeah. How many bones do sharks have? Several. 400 or something? I don't know.

4,000. Wow. Forests? They're cartilage. Oh, they're all cartilage. No bones. I remember that. Yeah, no bones in a shark.

It's wicked. Huh? It's wicked. It's cool. They have no bones. Oh, they said wicken. They were requesting. They have no bones.

They're inferring that they're witches. They have an asthma branch.'s cool. They have no bones. Oh, they said wicken. They have no bones. Inferring that they're witches. They have plasma branches. No bones. They're a witch. They're very flexible. What is the longest a shark has ever lived? Oh, yeah. There was one in the news recently.

Yeah, I talked to one of them about the Civil War. It was in the news. It's, I talked to one of them about the Civil War. It was in the news. It's very ugly. You said it was ugly. 90 years old. 400 years old. And the podcast was 517 was the oldest he remembered. Was that the Greenland shark?

Yeah. Yeah, I think they found one that was maybe older. I've remembered nothing. The Greenland shark usually lives for over 400 years and it's blind because parasites eat its eyes. Yeah, scientists recently estimated

that one that was 392 plus or minus 120 years. That's how Jim guesses. 90, 400, nothing. Give or take lifetimes. Yeah, because they were saying it was 512 but they're they're not

quite sure but it's old the youngest shark was one minute old and it had a song that went still born shark shark shark that's right stillborn shark shark shark shark shark stillborn shark shark shark shark shark he is dead would it be one minute or be like, no, no minutes? No minutes, no. No minutes. Just stillborn sharks. That's a bad cartoon. It's mom smoked. Or a good one.

It could be good. Yeah. Oh, I'm stillborn shark. Yeah, no, basically he's like a ghost like Casper. It's just really, my mom ate bad plankton. Yeah, it's all one scene just on the bottom of a sandy floor of the ocean somewhere. I'd love to come visit.

That could be a character in SpongeBob. Let's go visit the Stillboy show. Hey, gang. I'm going to open a restaurant in here. Finding Nemo got dark. How can you tell how old the shark is? There was rings like the tree rings. There was something.

There was rings. You're right. Initially, you said count the rings on the anus. That turned out to be wrong. But I remember him going, you're almost right. You count the rings on its spine. So you really only can tell when it's dead and you chop off the spine and count the rings in there. So you kill it and go, oh, it was young.

It had a lot of life to live. Look inside the belly stillborn. Shack, shack, shack, da-dack, da-dack, stillborn. Shack, shack, shack, da-dack. In the belly. Last question I have is, how many dicks do male sharks have? Two. That's right.

They're called claspers. Yeah, well, I call them dps you said similar on that on the episode and you did ask do they both get hard at the same time or does one get hard as one stays soft apparently they're both hard all the time all the time wow cartilage yeah they must use Bluetooth. Yeah, I imagine there's a lot of HR complaints in the shark world. I was working with this shark. He was saying the way the sharks have sex, which I completely forgot about, is you have the female shark. She's there.

The male shark goes up, bites onto her by the gill area, and then he wraps himself around and has to determine what side of the shark the vagina's on. And then he goes in there with his two dicks. Imagine the vagina's always on the same side. Does someone bite it under your nose? Is that how you have sex, Kelly? I mean, sometimes. I'm usually sleeping. Him or you?

Or both of you? You both wake up like, oh i slept walked again i'm pregnant i had a dream you had two dicks well that's it for now i know about that maybe we forgot a lot of things yeah oh that's it that's all that was it that was pretty good all right next time what we'll do is i'll quiz you okay why would we do that well let's see if he remembers bloody anything or acted all too bad you you don't think you did well olympics i did well i knew i didn't be easy didn't do good i didn't i don't remember about the animals i only seem smart because i'm reading these off i had to re-watch the podcast and learn any of this okay so next time don't do animal related one he says

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Enjoy. All right. Now it's time to introduce our guest, who I'm actually not going to introduce by name because you might know who it is. Okay. Hello, guest. I don't know a lot of people, so...

You'll recognize me. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. So Jim's going to... Go ahead, Jack. Yes, though.

Yes, though. Yes, though. Yes, though. Judging a book by its cover. All right. All right. All right. Jim's going to try and guess who you are and what you're here to talk about. Okay. Well, if you have a famous name, you're probably a famous person.

That would make sense. So are you an actress or actor? Now we say? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. No. He's going to ask you some questions.

I'm going to give him some hints. No. No. Okay. You got a lot of files there. You seem to say you've got your file things away. So you're an orderly folk. Do you work in medicine?

No, not really. Oh, God. You got a box there that says the word lobster on it next year. Are you a fishing person? No, not a fishing person? No, I care about fish, though. You care about fish? Okay, you're an animal activist.

You're a vegan. Are you a vegan? Famous vegan. No. Should be, though, but no. You want some hints? Could be. I'll have a hint, no. You want some hints? Could be. I'll have a hint, yeah.

There is a movie about her. Oh, you're Erin Brockovich. Wow. Wait, wait, how did you get that? Holy shit. Wow. I knew I'd seen her somewhere. Yeah, she's Erin Brockovich.

Wait, now, did you see her name before I covered it up? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was impressive. I know an Erin Brockovich when I see it. Ding, ding, ding. All. I know an Erin Brockovich when I see it. Ding, ding, ding. All right. Is it Erin Brockovich? I've seen her in interviews before.

Yes, yes, I know who that is. Okay, so you are right. I'm very surprised. I didn't think you were going to get it just based on what happened. Is it the first time he's guessed someone? No, he's guessed some people before. Well, but we barely gave him any hints. When you said there's a movie about it,

you asked a Schindler. You know what I mean? Yeah, that was probably a dead giveaway. Wait, there's only been a movie about one woman ever? Yes, yes, that's why we need more equality. She could have been in A League of Our Own. Okay. Yeah, come on.

In the modern era, how many? Sally Field? Yeah, Sally Field from... Okay. Yeah, come on. In the modern era, how many? Sally Field? Yeah, Sally Field from Norman. She could have been anyone. You're Jenny from Forrest Gump. Claire from Silkwood? Yeah. Well, please welcome to the show officially Erin Brockovich,

an environmental activist, but also our book Superman's Not Coming, Our National Water Crisis and What We the People Can Do About It is out. And she has other books that you can see on her website at brockovich.com. Yeah, just skim over all those. And what is our specialty topic? The Life and Times of Erin Brockovich? Or is it environmental activism? Yeah, we're going to talk about drinking water and how that affects people.

Yeah, okay. Have you seen the movie? I have seen the movie, but at that stage. You can go a lot of places with that movie. I'm surprised you're not going to start with boobs or bras or foul mouth or anything else. That's the last segment. Back when that movie came out, I had a little bit of a drug problem. So it's a little hazy, all the films I saw in that era.

Okay. Do you know who was in the movie? Julia Roberts. Albert Finney. Albert Finney. Is Albert Finney still alive? No, he passed away. He did, that's right. Sorry to bring that up. A lot of big friends.

Right at the beginning of the podcast. Yeah, and the real Ed passed away too, back in 2005. Oh, the person he was playing. Yes, yeah. I can't remember his name from the movie, and I've seen the movie. I saw it a very long time ago. Yeah, Ed Mazury, Albert Finney, Julia Roberts,

Mark Helgenberger. She kind of represented one of the lead plaintiffs in it. Now, Julia Roberts won the Oscar for this, correct? Yeah. All right. That's pretty cool. Before we get into the drinking water, I'm sure you've answered these questions a lot before, maybe.

I don't know. But how did overall, like, having someone portray you in a movie, like, good, bad? I mean. Did you get to approve Julia? Like, when they were making it? No. No?

No. No, that would be the one person Ed literally said out loud he didn't want to play the role. Cause he didn't think her mouth was foul enough or her breasts were big enough. So, you know, we had a good laugh about that. I was like, Julia Roberts is amazing. But when I found out it was her, I was shocked. She did a fabulous job. I mean, honestly, who would be disappointed in Julia Roberts playing your character in a movie?

Did you have, did you have someone else that you had in mind before Julia? Well, you know, people would ask me that, and I thought somebody fun or zany, maybe Goldie Hawn-ish kind of person, you know, because I'm kind of silly. People don't know that about me. Generally, when you meet me and it's on a water issue, you get a real kind of very serious person, and I'm not joking around,

but I'm actually a lot of fun i have a great sense of humor i'm a little zany and so i was thinking goldie hawn wait that movie wasn't a comedy i'm not sure if i have seen it then no it's gonna be a serious film wasn't it you and your friend trying to get a briefcase to Aspen? Samson, he was way off. Okay, so here's what we're going to do. I'm going to ask Jim what he knows about drinking water or water quality,

things like that, and he's going to tell us what he thinks he knows. I'm also going to prod him along with a few questions, and then at the end of that time, we're going to grade him, and Aaron, you can grade him on accuracy, 0 through 10. Kelly's going to grade him on confidence, we're going to grade him. And Aaron, you can grade him on accuracy, 0 through 10. Kelly's going to grade him on confidence. I'm going to grade him on et cetera, and we'll add all the scores together.

And if you get 0 through 10 total, H2, no, Jim. 11 through 20, mediocre water. 21 through 30, magna cum water. Yeah, this isn't going to go well. I know. Yeah, are you nervous? I see your like hands yeah i'm not gonna do i'm not gonna do well it's gonna affect the confidence score yeah okay um

where does drinking water come from and is anything done to it before it reaches our homes it comes from crystal geyser from bottles in alpine springs that comes from springs drinking water spring water and or it can be uh comes from pipes drinking water. Spring water. It comes from pipes underneath your house. It comes up through a tap. It's not wrong. It can come through fresh water places. You can't drink salt water. You have to drink the good stuff.

The sky originally. Sky into the pipes. Sky into the pipes through a refinery. Something refines it probably. Refinery, okay. And the rest of it comes from springs. You said springs a lot.

Yeah, springs. That's why I know the water in Palm Springs is very cheap because even though it's a desert, there's a big spring underneath it. Okay. I know that. Do you know what an aquifer is? Aquifer? Aquifer.

A-Q-U-I-F-E-R. Oh, aquifer is uh aquifer aquifer a-q-u-i-f-e-r oh aquifer sure um uh an aquifer is a small uh furry animal that cleans the uh water and swims through it takes out all the toxins it's like it's like a a uh an echidna fuck the platypus okay platypus echidna yeah what about do you know what surface water is? It's water on the surface. It's the up high stuff. Up high where? On the top.

It's on the top of the water. Okay. It's not touching the sand. It's touching the air. Yeah, yeah. It's the air water. It's the air water, not down the bottom. I shouldn't ask this question because it's like,

you're just going to repeat what I say back to you as the answer, but what is a well field? um oh it's a field of wells yeah wells wells is water under the ground that's always good for you that never has this that never has ever yeah it's water in the ground is always good for you not always good for you don't be silly but i like when you like the water diviners when you're on a property of land you get the two sticks there's two rods and then you find the water the wells and that can give you in the desert and stuff like okay so that's just how could a well be contaminated oh teenagers fucking throwing condoms and shit in there okay too many coins so many wishes i guess too many wishes i guess he really has seen the movie then aaron he's really nailing the plot here it'd be something to do with corporations dumping

their bloody waste in it okay that would be what it is there you go a little bit better dumping waste corporations that could be a way i'm gonna give it okay um so how do you make sure drinking water safe and what's the process of making it safe or disinfecting it? Just give us a little bit of that. Yeah, it goes through the refining. In the aquifer. When the aquifer swims through it. Yeah.

And it goes through the refining. And you've got to make sure your pipes are good, because then what you'll have is you'll have that place in Michigan, Flint, you've got too much lead in the pipes pipes and then the kids grow extra fingers. You're doing that thing where you try to answer the question with something you know, but you're not answering the question. I'd be a great politician. I was asking you, how do they make sure the water is clean? Like, what is the process of them cleaning the water?

Do they not need to? It goes straight from the springs in? No, they would have to test it. Alkaline tests. No, they would have to test it, alkaline tests. They would have to do some of that to make sure that it's got the right levels of all the things that they need to have levels in. Okay. And then it would be, you know, like Dasani, it's not spring water.

It's just put through several filters. So the other stuff can just be put through filters. You know, the spring water doesn't need the filters and the other stuff needs the filters all right um what organization regulates drinking water um to make sure that it's like the department of water and sanitizing type of stuff you know i pay a bill to them yeah the water department does that water department do you want me to stop asking questions No Okay So DWP

Department of Water and Power Yeah yeah yeah They check it Yeah I mean What about Like nationally What's the organization

Oh So it's not the LADWP No there is There is local Now you are right Local governments would check it But like what Like nationally

What That would be the Environmental Minister There is local. Now, you are right. Local governments would check up. But nationally, what? That would be the environmental minister. NWA. NWA, that's it. Yeah. EZE and Dr. Dre? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

All right. What type of health issues are related to water quality? What type of what? Health issues. Health issues. Oh, well, you have to have water um well you have to have water if you don't have water you die you're killing them you've got to drink like lots of water the doctors say drink lots of water and then unless you're in ecstasy you've got to watch what you're doing

because you can drown because you can't tell that you've drunken too much i've been down that road too many times let me be more specific okay let, for instance, what are the symptoms of, like, lead poisoning, let's say? Oh, it hurts when you pee. That would be one of them. That's the symptoms for anything. That's your first sign of anything going wrong, hurts when you pee. We're almost done, Aaron. I'm enjoying this.

Don't worry about me. I believe disfigurement, like people who are pregnant and stuff, their children can have like flamidomide arms and stuff like that and I think hair loss would be one of them and your skin turns a bit grey

okay, and is there any this is one you should get, anywhere famous maybe lead poisoning Flint Michigan yay and wherever Aaron was hanging out in that movie

no no I don't I don't now because you looked at me weird okay any other pollutants that are in water you think that are famously maybe or something there's a lot but plutonium Any other pollutants that are in water, you think, that are famously maybe or something that you would... I mean, there's a lot, but...

Yeah, plutonium. Plutonium, okay. You don't want anything algae. Algae? Yeah, you don't want that in your water, in your drinking water. That foam, that white foam that grows up on the top of swamps. White foam.

Yeah, that's shit as well. Don't drink that. Don't recommend it. In fact fact don't drink any still water you want your water moving a bit moving around with the aquifer swishing it about that's actually not bad yeah yeah yeah what is that that's just not about it yeah yeah i don't know we'll see that you know you don't want still water okay and then uh all right let's say i don't run as deep as you reckon. Let's ask one more question. What can communities do to affect change if something is wrong with their drinking water supply? Protesting is always your first port of call.

You can start up a Facebook page, I'm Angry About the Water. Okay. Call Erin up. She's got some knowledge. Give Erin a call. I thought she'd be harder to contact, but she's on my show so

she must be pretty reachable you know so so erin will fix it okay i think that's good i think that's good we'll get into we'll ask some of the other questions and get into it okay erin uh on a scale of zero to ten ten is the best so everybody out there knows what how did jim do on his knowledge of drinking water i don't think he did that bad. No, come on. You know, he,

he really hits some points, you know, even on what not to drink, but through his observations, you know, he went with that, you know, if it's green or yellow or blue or foam,

don't drink it. It's generally a really good idea. Can I remind you that he said aquifer was an animal? Well, that, you know, there's some things that he definitely got wrong. But overall, I didn't think he did too bad. I was listening to him and he's right about, you know what to do. You can't call me. People do.

You can start Facebook pages. People do. And so he was good about that. Well, water, you know, we can work on some of the chemicals and how water gets to us, but that's okay. It doesn't just come from bottled water. So you want me to rate him? Yeah, zero through ten. I'm going to give him a number.

Zero to ten. I made it fun as well. You made it fun. He hits some good points. How about middle of the road? Five. How about five? Okay, five.

Five's out of bed. Cal's confidence, Kelly. Five's not bad. Cal's confidence, Kelly. Five's drinkable. I'm giving him a four on confidence. Four. Damn. Yeah. I'll give you a two just so you're mediocre water.

All right. You've got a score of 11, mediocre. That's all right. I'll be like tap water from Detroit. Yeah. I don't know how that water is. It's just down the road. It's probably quite good. They've got Lake Michigan there. It's probably all right. I don't know how that water is. It's just down the road. It's probably quite good.

They've got Lake Michigan there. It's probably all right. I don't know. Because that was the whole thing with Flint. They have a really big lake there that's got good water, and they don't use it. I heard something about that. We'll probably find out.

Yeah, we'll talk about it. We can talk about it. All right, let's start at the beginning. I asked Jim where drinking water comes from, and is anything done before it reaches, and he said a lot of things streams pipes in your house fresh water places crystal guys are from the sky to refinery into your pipes kept saying pipes yeah yeah yeah yeah um i don't know let's can we talk a little bit about like where drinking water comes from like what an aquifer is surface water stuff like that or is it uh drinking water comes from several sources i mean obviously you know rain and we have the recyclables conditions

the planet's amazing and how she uh functions but water comes from aquifers rivers creeks tributaries into the municipality and at that point that's where it gets treated with chlorination because water contains organic matter and what's interesting when our water comes into the municipality and it gets treated with chlorination it creates a very toxic compound called trihalomethanes so if that isn't appropriately filtered and i heard you pick up on that instead of adding another chemical, you know, then we can divert another issue. So you were kind of there with some stuff. And there are definitely pipes. It's called our distribution system. And if the distribution system is old and full of lead, as you talked about. What happened in Flint, they switched river waters.

In Hannibal, Missouri, it was the pipes that caused their lead because if we don't treat the water appropriately, it becomes very caustic and angry water. And then all of the pipes are pitted and etched and all that lead leaches out. So you were kind of there but you you didn't go deep enough into it yeah so chlorinization i should use that word i know that word i've chlorinated a pool before so you know he did some stuff jim i should probably notice are you from

australia i am i am i have fluoride in my water you have fluoride over here fluoride yeah yeah okay because britain doesn't have fluoride in their water. You have fluoride over here? Fluoride, yeah. Yeah, okay. Because Britain doesn't have fluoride in their water. They don't have it, and that's why their teeth are all shitty. Oh. That's not the reason. There's several reasons. They're also a lazy bunch of people who don't brush. But I'll go with the water theory.

Well, if we said bore water to you, you probably would have known right away. Yes, yes. What's bore water? And the white foamy stuff you're talking to is PFOS, which Australia has a big problem with as does america out in oaky and catherine and new south wales so that's why i heard your accent i mean from australia i should know this but um uh you wouldn't know it as bore water yeah i i the tap water in australia is pretty good i'll tell you who has good tap water holland number

one number one they even say like when you're in the hotel they put above the sink have a go at is pretty good. I'll tell you who has good tap water. Holland. Number one. Number one. They even say, like, when you're in the hotel, they put above the sink, have a go at the tap water. It's very good. It's a five-star hotel. They go, we don't have bottles in here because our tap water is excellent. The Dutch are very proud of their tap water. I've gone off track a bit.

I think you're very nice, Aaron, to be like, yeah, Jim had it, and then you say all of these things he didn't say. He said filters. I said filters and white foam. I'm like very nice, Aaron, to be like, yeah, Jim had it. And then you say all of these things he didn't say. He said filters. I said filters and white foam. He kind of threw some things in. I'm like, pipes, okay, where is it going to go with this? But, yes, there's pipes. You know, rain, okay, yeah, there's rain.

Where is it going to go with this? So, you know, he kind of pulled a lot of things out. Man, woman, person, camera. If the pipes go shitty like they did in, you said Hannibal, Missouri, right? Right. No, you're correct. So how do you fix that? Because that's a whole infrastructure underneath an entire town.

So do you dig up everything or is there something, a chemical you could put through? Do you have to replace just a small portion of the pipes? What can you do? You don't want to add more chemicals. That's why we have problems like that. So in Flint, Michigan, they switched river water, which you can't do. Water, there's no two bodies of water the same anywhere in the world.

Isn't that amazing? They have their own fingerprint. They're as individual as we are. By the way, we are water. I think we all know that. So you can't just switch river water. So what happened in Flint when they did that, Flint has old lead pipes. We have about, I believe, 18 million miles of lead pipe. It's an antiquated infrastructure system that we are going to have to deal with. But because of the

river water being switched and now they've created a caustic, corrosive, angry water. It causes all the lead pipes that gets pitted. And so all the iron, lead, and manganese will precipitate out and was being delivered to the people's town. Flint and Hannibal, they were adding ammonia to the water. So here's kind of water 101 to make it short and simple. Water comes in from Rivers Creek's tributary surface areas. So here's kind of water 101 to make it short and simple. Water comes in from Rivers Creek's tributary surface areas. Water carries organic matter. Organic matter is dirt.

So when the water comes into the municipality, they treat it with chlorination because of the dirt, because we don't want brain-eating amoebas and Legionnaire outbreaks across the country. As I told you, organic matter and chlorination create trihalomethanes, heavily regulated by the Safe Drinking Water Act because it's very toxic. When you can't control your THMs, we are supposed to put on the appropriate filtration systems, but we don't like to do that. We like to take the shortcut and go the cheap route. So we've started throwing ammonia into the system. Now we've created another chemical reaction in the water. Ammonia actually sequesters the effectiveness of chlorination.

Therefore, we are seeing large outbreaks of legionnaires across the country and brain-eating amoebas. These are deadly bacterias. And the other issue that you see is it creates a very corrosive distribution system and causes all the lead to precipitate out. That's what happened in Hannibal, Missouri. And here's where I love what you said in the end about communities, though, because you were hitting it. They will call me, but they will start Facebook groups. And when they activate, they can actually change a situation in their own backyard. We talk about in Superman's Not Coming in Pukitsky, New York, through the power of observation of an excellent water operator, he stopped a further disaster

with chloramine, its effect on people, but how they had to rebuild its distribution system. We have an infrastructure issue in this country. And if we could stop just using ammonia, we'd put less strain on an already strained infrastructure. We would have less Legionnaire and lead outbreaks and cleaner water. So there's things that we can do, but it's expensive. And we've gotta stop cheating our infrastructure.

You can't cheat safety and infrastructure on the up front and keep kicking the can down the line because we do have a problem. Now, having said that, I can see all of your faces and I want you to know this is precisely why everybody has stopped inviting me to parties. And everyone's like, could we not invite her again so no no i'm sitting over here by myself there's been a pandemic for like 10 months no one's been invited to parties it's not just you turn your telly on you're fine since february no one's invited me anywhere i don't own a tv do you drink tap water no i do reverse osmosis i know too much about water and you know listen i

don't want to sit out here and scare everyone we have problems in america we're always assuming we're safe but i gotta tell you right now we have aquifers going dry. People might not know, the Los Angeles Municipal Water District, our back up aquifer, we can't use because it's so polluted. And that aquifer is good, because we didn't actually- We should clear up what an aquifer is. Jim still thinks an aquifer is an animal.

That's like a dam, right? Yeah, I know. No, well, if you think it's an animal, when this animal's dead, we're fucked. So it's gonna be a problem. Is it a dam? Is it a dam? Well- Yeah, it's an animal, when this animal is dead, we're fucked. So there's going to be a problem. Is it a dame? Is it a dame? What's an aquifer? It's water underneath the ground.

It's a big, huge, massive body of water that sits out there that we use for a whole lot of purposes. One, our drinking water sources, not just rivers, creeks, and tributaries. Is that a natural thing or is it like an aqueduct, which isn't a natural thing? An aqueduct brings water across. No, aquifer's natural. Underground, yeah. Underground. That's where our water is. It's amazing. And we don't protect it, which we should be. And so now we're starting to not be able to use aquifers. You know, I don't think people, we assume that this is all okay. Actually realize we have third world conditions happening right here in America. I just got a call from a community in Iowa that gets their water from an aquifer. So they have wells.

You would know it as a bore, Jim. That's in Australia. A bore is a well. That's a different name. Yeah, it's just a different, Jim. That's in Australia. A bore is a well. That's just a different name. Yeah, it's just a different reference, but he would recognize that. But he knows well water. Yeah, I know what well water is. Yeah, he said it's a field of wells.

Well, yeah, it's not a field of wells. You know, so their aquifer is polluted. So their well was condemned, deemed unusable because of the pollution in the aquifer is polluted so their well was condemned deemed unusable because of the pollution in the aquifer and now they can't even drill a new well and they're not connected to city water so how riddle me how the hell they're supposed to get water so so let so we i that was one of the questions i asked jim was like how does how does a well get can or an aquifer get contaminated he said condoms and coins but then he said corporate waste he was a little bit better corporate right so specifically let's say the

one in la you said there's an aquifer that we can't use like how what happened there like or how does it happen in general industrial pollution industrial there yes and you know listen on the condom side he wasn't necessarily wrong that goes to our um you know, listen, on the condom side, he wasn't necessarily wrong. That goes to our, you know, hazardous waste and our sanitation, which we have a lot of issues with. And there's condoms and a whole lot of other things in there. So I'm giving that. Yeah. Our friend Tommy Caprio always flushes all of his condoms. So he's contributing to the problem. It's just, you know, a sanitation problem. And we have sanitation issues in this country. I'll tell you a very quick,

funny little story, right? So I had a mate who worked on the Harbour Bridge. Now, if you go to the Sydney Harbour Bridge, you can climb over it. You can pay to climb over it, right? I've done that. It's fun.

It's a fun little walk, right? It looks like, and it's not that scary. You're chained up. You've got a carapace and you walk up. But the guy that worked there was telling me, he goes, before they had these tours going up, you've got a carapace and you walk up. But the guy that worked there was telling me, he goes, before they had these tours going up, kids would jump over the fence,

teenagers or whatever, and they'd go up there drunk in the middle of the night, like saw stairs and everything, and they'd jump up there. And every night when the riggers who worked on the Harbour Bridge, they'd come up and they'd always find used condoms on the top of the Harbour Bridge, right, because people would come. I always thought to myself, obviously you're a risk taker, right? You've just jumped over a barbed wire fence. Just do it without the fringer.

Like who gets up there? Ah, better remember the condom. Anyway, water. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah. Taking a little point for that. Four. Down to four.

Water pollution comes from industrial sources. Water pollution can actually happen right at the municipal level, and how they're treating or mistreating the water becomes another issue. So we've got some water issues. It's a real legitimate crisis. Okay, so something like Flint, right? And so you said it was the swapping of rivers. We've got some water issues. It's a real legitimate crisis. So something like Flint, right? And so you said it was the swapping of rivers.

Are their pipes okay? Do they need to change their pipes there? Oh, those pipes are definitely destroyed. They'll have to redo the infrastructure. Okay, so with a town that small, isn't it more cost effective just to abandon it and make a new town or move them to somewhere else? That seems like it would cost more than... Let me just say, Aaron, this is something that Jim has said before. Why don't you just move?

First of all, it's 100,000 people in Flint, Michigan. Yeah, just move. That's a lot of people. I'm a little bit Republican about this. I'm mostly left-wing, but I'm like, I moved around the world all the time. When things got shitty i just moved yeah yeah but you didn't have a family of four and you maybe were making like twenty thousand dollars a year i just moved i was broke you have a family of four oh god i got i got more than that now you have money so but i yeah and i

i saw that they are changing the pipes so they're almost done changing the pipes. It's cost a lot of money. The problem that's happening now is once those pipes get to the beginning of the property line, they want the homeowner to pay the cost to change out those pipes from the street into their house. Yeah, that's not pleasant. That's a big problem because it's very expensive. And this was a man-made. The government in Flint fucked this one up big time. You know, I knew about Flint a year before anyone else did. And my water expert,

Robert Bocock went out there to try to work with the city on what not to do. And they said, fuck off. We're going to do it anyway. This was all about on the upfront money, how we save money. And they just, they really fucked themselves on this situation and they really fucked the people over. And I could drop a whole lot of F-bombs when it comes to Flint but

you're right Julie Roberts did not curse enough in the movie you're right we can just tell you that by right now I'm enjoying it a lot but I was just like yeah you know I don't understand why people are so offended by that I'm not kidding you because if you come in the room and say, uh-huh, I understand.

I, you know, well, okay, let's calm down here. It's like when you go, what the fuck happened? Everyone's like, yes, right, right? What happened? A hundred percent. Big fan. No, no, I don't mind swearing. You don't, Jim?

No, no, I'm not. You don't mind it? It doesn't offend me. No, of course it doesn't. It doesn't offend me. No, of course it doesn't. It doesn't offend me. No, we like it. It's just like a universal word, you know. My kids bug me.

You know, as a mom, you're trying to like, honey, I'm busy right now. After the 12th time, you're just like, what the fuck do you want? Oh, now mom's mad. Yeah, I swear in front of my son. I feel bad about it. But it gets weird. Like, I'll swear a front of my son and I feel bad about it, but it gets weird. Like I'll swear a couple of times and then like the fifth or sixth fucker, I go, better taper it in a bit.

He also has that swear jar building up. He's like, dad, you owe me $36.25. No, I took my son out to play golf and I just gave him $50. Before we started, he goes, why? And I go, because I'm going to swear a lot, buddy. That swear jar. Well, my kids are all grown and gone now. 50 bucks before we started. He goes, why? And I go, cause I'm going to swear a lot, buddy. That's where, cause you're all grown and gone now. So I dropped the up on with my adult children,

but the grandchildren, which I now have four of, uh, I'm a little more. Have you ever thought of going into politics? You got a good, you got a good way about you. You're a good speaker.

I reckon you could do all right. You, I reckon you could, you could be president of some country, maybe even this one. I would want that job. Yeah, I know. I don't know. Politics is very frustrating.

I don't go either side of the aisle when it comes to water. You're never going to convince me just because you're red or just because you're red or just because you're blue we should poison each other your child should suffer at the hands of some chemical and die that's bullshit i run purple so i'm about water both sides of the aisle both sides of politics um is is the water is the water problem on a local or a national issue more you know uh it's it's global. All of us need to work on this planet.

It is in peril. You know, it isn't a joke anymore. And I think we head for real trouble if we don't start looking for solutions to our issues instead of just covering it up. And that's the thing no one can seem to do is stand up, take accountability. Yep, this got fucked up. How are we going to fix this? And what's the the solution to it and not just keep hiding behind it when the film first came out aaron brockovich i got inquiries of hexavalent chromium contamination in australia in ireland in france in greece in brazil in south Africa. This is one chemical that's gone global.

PFAS that you were talking about, which is the firefighting foam, the Teflon. Rob Beloit was the attorney that was in the movie Dark Waters that took DuPont on for 20 years. These one and two and three and ten top chemicals find their way around the globe. And so, you know, the water is impacted at every level. And she's not happy with us right now, the environment. Where is the best water in the world? Where would you go? Europe's got it more down or Africa or South America or what?

There's, you know, well, some people in Europe definitely handle their water better and more efficient than we do with less chemicals. I think they're ahead of us on that. There's some real pristine water sources north of Brisbane, up closer to, you know, not Darwin, but just kind of below Port Douglas in that area. Near the Great Barrier Reef there. Yeah. So there's a couple of locations where we have some good water, but instead of protecting and preserving it, you know, we're all about the mining and what we can do for the money. And here's the thing where we got to strike a balance that I think the people get lost in. It's always my way, the highway, throw the baby out with the bathwater.

And you know what? At the end of the day, that doesn't work for any of us. So when we know we have water conditions, we need to find the solution. Even if the cost is going to be great because we can find the money, we need to fix it. And when we have those pristine locations, it is up to us to protect and preserve it. We need to be doing more of that and protecting and preserving our aquifers and our underground water resources from all of the runoff and the pollution issues that we're causing. Because listen, you know, we talk in the book,

okay, in Cape Town, South Africa, the community dubbed it day zero. I think the whole world knew that Cape Town was going to run out of water. that Cape Town was going to run out of water. This major city was going to run out of water. They haven't, and they didn't because the community worked together. They rationed what they had to. They worked with the government. The government actually took it very seriously. They were able to divert a disaster.

There was an article that came out two days ago, I posted about it in Kansas where I'm from. They're 35% already into day zero. They have 70% of the aquifer water left and in 40 years there will be none. Are we kidding? So when we see what's coming, why would we not respond to begin to be prepared to divert a disaster?

Throw me that one because I don't know why we don't do that shit. So here in LA, and this happens in Australia as well, a lot more in Australia, I think, we get water restrictions where they say you're not to water your lawn between these hours and these hours and that type of stuff. And the dams are very low. Our water level is lower than it's ever been. And then and it's and then like then the next year it's full it's too full am i uh what am i trying to say here is that something they are hoax because they go on they go on like

we're never going to be able to repair it and then they go we had too much water in the dam so what's all that about i know it's not drinking water. That's just water. Yeah, you know, well, the situation, and I am aware of what you're talking about, what happened in Australia. It's about dams, how we built the dams. We need that water. We should be injecting underground and preserving it because it evaporates.

So we lose a lot of water. And then if you don't do planning right, you get these massive rainstorms in australia that you get you get a surge of water yeah then we've got too much bloody water and so when we talk about climate change climate change will be water events too much water not enough water no water when you said syringe it underground is that just digging a hole or what's that how do you there well there's lots of caverns and empty spaces and aquifers that can already exist in there that we can begin to pipe and put that water underground so we have less evaporation and then we need to have

protection of those aquifers so you're not going to be able to do any fracking or drilling or mining within X amount of locations of these preserved pristine aquifers. We're going to have to start taking care of water that way. We just take it for granted. And we do have these climate change conditions and we do suffer droughts. We're experiencing it here in the West Coast. So when you're in a situation like that, you're going to need to begin to preserve your water. And we're also going to have to look at why LA lost its backup aquifer due to pollution and how we change that. These aquifers, some of them, depending on the chemicals, can be treated and cleaned and water put back. But we just don't do that. We continue to, you know know the idea that the solution to pollution is dilution so just dumping in the water has not and is not and will not work out

for us it's not but it's an answer to your question it's not a hoax though too no i know but we're just really we're really bad at like playing mother nature so like when you when when when we run out of water and then you and then you get too much it's just because we're trying to manage it in a certain way and you can't manage it like so it wasn't the water the water was brought to la uh mile holland right he was the guy who invented that it's the movie chinatown or whatever yeah right and then there was like hills there was hills that were all lush and clean and then they dragged all the water out to la now they're all fucking desert and all that type of stuff i know that's off off the point a bit, but I just know about that. No, yeah, it's water.

Yeah, it's all water. It's about drinking water. I'll tell you how my dad waters his garden, right? He gets a wheelie bin, right? What's a wheelie bin? Is that a wheel? Your bin.

Your bin. Oh. We call them wheelie bins because they got wheels on them. Okay, a wheelie bin. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah. Australians just name things

based on what they look like. Are you talking about a wheelbarrow? A wheelbarrow? No, no, no. Like a trash bin. You know your bins that you... Trash can. Oh, a trash bin.

Yeah, yeah, with the wheels on it that you put out for the garbage bin. The wheelie bin. Right, yeah. It's like a toy for a child. The wheelie bin. The wheelie bin, right? Before you say a joke, where have you been?

I've been to the shops. Where have you wheelie been? Anyway, so they have wheels on them. You take them out, the garbage truck picks them up and puts them in the thing. How long did it take us to put wheels on that? I'll tell you what, same with the suitcase, but the wheelie bin. Do you remember those bins

that were just made out of steel? They were shorter, they were round, they had two handles on the side, and they had a loose lid that kids could just pick up and throw across the fucking road like a frisbee. Oh yeah, I forgot about those. Yeah,

like what obstacle the grouse lid's in, right? And so you'd have to carry the bin out to the side of the road and then a guy would have to get out and carry it and then there was one bike

came along and went, put some fucking wheels on it, mate. You can make it twice as big and they were like, oh, that's brilliant and then the lid

was still loose on it. People were throwing it across the street and then someone put, attach the fucking lid. Wait, wait, wait,

wait, your dad waters a lawn with a trash can? it okay what my dad does is he keeps one of the big wheelie bins right one of the big black bins uh he told the council it got stolen so he got another one yeah right then he keeps one in his backyard and he's put a tap in the bottom of it yeah right he's dug a hole and he's put a tap and he's sealed it off. And then when it rains, he opens the lid and fills up with rain. Then he puts the lid back on it so it doesn't get contaminated. That's how he waters his garden with a little tap. Yeah. That's very conservation-minded of him. That's pretty good of him, right? That one's not bad, right?

It is. And that's actually really freaking cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People listening right now going, that's not a bad idea. Really been taps. Real quick so we can answer it. Wellfields, you said Jim was wrong. Can we just say what wellfields are and then just talk about what organizations regulate drinking water? Well, wellfields are like what municipalities use where they drill down into the aquifer where they are bringing water up into the municipality. And so they have their well fields.

There you go, Jim. All right. Field of wells. Field of wells. If you dig it, they will come. And then so the people that regulate drinking water, I guess local governments do, but also EPA, I was thinking, would. Can you wash yourself in shitty water?

The people in Flint have to have buckets of water or whatever. Can you wash yourself in it? Or is the lead bad for your skin as well? Well, absolutely. Skin is your largest organ on your body. So, you know... Not for me.

Your common sense goes a really long way in these issues. And I share with people, I was born and raised in Kansas, so I'm very familiar with tornadoes. Not my favorite thing. But I assure you that when the tornado sirens go off and a tornado is coming, I'm not going to call the weather channel to see if it's an F4 or an F5 because I don't give a crap.

I'm going to get to safety. And it's the same thing with our water and we get down to these debates on all these chemicals well should i drink four parts per billion or five parts per billion of arsenic which is rat poison i don't give a fuck if it's one part per billion or a thousand it's poison i'm not drinking it and not only am i not drinking it i'm not going to bathe in a hot tub full of arsenic or any other compound right and we forget that that our organ is you know our skin is our largest organ and it absorbs and yes it can be an exposure pathway but we swim in like heavily chlorinated pools and stuff like that that can't be good for you, right? No, over-chlorination is a real concern and a real problem. And you have to be careful. Again, this is where we get into trouble when we bring in water, which contains organic matter and how we chlorinate it. It's a real chemistry

scenario here. You need top five level operators throughout this country, because when you're dealing with water, it becomes a chemical reaction. And if you don't know what you're doing, you can really screw things up. And over-chlorination is a huge problem. And again, when we're adding ammonia, and then we create this bacterial craziness in our distribution system, they revert to what? Chlorine burns, which are massive amounts of chlorination in the water to kill that bacteria that creates another problem itself. You are correct. Over-chlorination of our water supply is and can be very dangerous. Yeah. So lead poisoning, which was what people in Flint were experiencing. Well, you said, what were the side effects? Symptoms. Symptoms. And I said,

grayish skin. Hurts when you pee. Hurts when you pee. Hurts when you pee. Tell me it doesn't hurt when you pee, Erin, not you in particular, but other people who drink the lead water. Surely the pee hurts. No, if pee hurts, we're looking right down the barrel

of a sexually transmitted disease. I've been drinking so much water I can use my dick as a pencil. No, no, no, no, no no no no it should not hurt Jim when you pee I'm going STD on that one I'm sorry I was telling my wife it was the water fuck

don't let her listen to this episode you gave me syphilis damn tap water um i have a whole list here of i mean what doesn't lead poisoning do as far as in this but i mean it's it says like memory loss anemia kidney dysfunction let's just give a shout out to lead quickly right because it was it was it was in paint and everything like that is lead still used in anything does it do anything well anymore like there's lead like chest plates or lead walls or anything does it do anything well it's like an element of the earth i know but are we still using it as a product do we still go put lead in there does anyone does anyone make a product and go this needs a bit more lead bullets well you know you have from

other countries stuff coming in that does contain lead. And, you know, even go look at your Proposition 65 notices, which only crazy state of California does, when you go to pump gas, you know, and that chemical contains lead and other compounds that could be dangerous. You can even pick up China plates somewhere and there will be a prop 65 notice on there may contain lead i went and bought a blow dryer the other day and they said wash your hands after use contains lead i'm like what the fuck let's give a shout out to that company but um so the answer to that is yes um yeah certainly in water we shouldn't be doing that you know flint taught us so much and it gave us a look. Not only do we have antiquated infrastructure, we have antiquated policies and laws that don't work anymore.

The lead and copper rule being one of them. Most people don't know that the lead and copper rule states that municipalities only have to test for lead once every four years. And you can average your sample. Talk about a way to miss all the lead contamination that we have in this country. That is a policy that has got to be changed. That doesn't work anymore. But we found a way to cheat the system and it's not going to work and moving forward here's one jim bullets lead bullets yeah bullets jack said bullets i said oh i'm sorry jack i didn't hear you i was looking at current fishing fishing weights that's how we get the lead in the water water by the way bloody fishing weights um so the we sort of talked about it like how utilities

play a role in in water pollution and obviously um that was how you got your start or at least according to the movie when i saw it with pgne and stuff so so are utilities like one of the like what's their role in this like a good or bad or what are, which we can be concerned about? They can be huge polluters. You even look at Duke energy and utilities out in North Carolina and that area and all of their coal ash and coal ash, which contains chromium as well become absolute problems.

So how the chromium six issue happened. So i uh jim picks up pipes pipes there's pipes right there's all gotta do with pipes there are pipes everywhere i mean otherwise the water's just wet in the grass you need the pipes the pipes are good and bad there's good and bad pipes on both sides so our infrastructure and they've been down there for 150 years and they rust and they corrode you know you're familiar with the alicio canyon gas leak well that's tons of pipes in a wellfield that nobody's come to properly shut down i'm still not over it let's assume we're not familiar with i i i know i definitely know a lot about that. No, that was that one in Superman 3 where he came down

and it was all burning and he blew it all out. What's the, you said, Elysium Canyon? Yeah, the Elysium Canyon. But speaking about pipes, you know, that was antiquated pipes. Yeah, and for the ranch. What's your best pipe then? Because my house, because it's earthquake-y, has plastic pipes in the walls, right?

They say for the earthquake. PVC maybe. Yeah, yeah. Is that your best pipe, a plastic pipe? Or do you still use terracotta? Or what do we use? Like the soldiers? We already use lead and copper.

We just learned recently in the fires in some of these communities that had the plastic pipes that melted and it released massive amounts of benzene. Oh, good. I think there's some solutions out there to pipes that we shouldn't use. And, you know the the plastic ones um

i don't know they serve some purpose but now we're starting to learn that in these fires and when they melt uh you can now have benzene contamination you need you need to make pipes out of vitamin c and you have no problems i went to school with a guy called benzene he was turkish i was trying to think of what yeah sure yeah what was second name zine where school with a guy called Benzene. He was Turkish. I was trying to think of what... Yeah, sure. What second name is Zene? No, it's one word. B-N-Z-E-N-E. No, I was like Benzene.

I used to do the joke about Ben Gazi. It's true. I was at a party and I wasn't very knowledgeable of anything and someone was like, it's terrible what happened with Ben Gazi. I was like, yeah, we should get that bloke i thought he was i thought it was the name of a terrorist good ben garzi and i'm like oh fucking hillary blew it there with ben garzi you know um all these issues are so overwhelming uh it takes a moment even reading my book to digest these issues and and i just think we're at a place, you know,

where we've been comfortable, we've assumed, we've taken it for granted that someone had our back. And I think that we're in some real peril right now. And it's important that we as the people just make this our job, make this our issue, try to understand it, break it down and not be overwhelmed by it, but begin to strike forward in the solution to it we're better than this and we know we are what can we do as individuals to protect ourselves and then what can we do as individuals to make the situation better we could do so much and I share that in the book and community after community after community I will tell you nine times out of ten if not nine ten out of 10, it's a pissed off mom. She's been lied to enough.

She's going to make it her business to find out what the hell's going on. She's margin charge at that point. She's not going to let it go until she has an answer. And so when they get involved, I'm oftentimes excited because they've got real power of stick-to-itiveness and they'll see it through to the end

and they don't care if it takes one year or ten. They're going to stay in the game. You don't want the dads on it. Yeah, and that's – That doesn't mean dads can't be on it. No, no, no. Dads would give up and they'd all end up at the strip club. We tried.

People can get sure of this. Yeah, we tried to fix the water thing. We all got pissed. They're drunk. This is the... You brought it up. It is... Listen, social media is good for some things.

It can be a double-edged sword in many ways, but people find each other. So when they collectively get together in a group going on Facebook page, they can change things. Get curious about water.

Don't assume it's safe. Use your power of observation. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's probably a duck, right? So when your water smells different and it's coming out black, blue, yellow, brown, or green, which I get those photos every single day, pick the phone up and make a call and get involved yourself. It's incredible what happens. And we share that in my book with communities, the mothers of Hannibal, Missouri, they weren't going to have lead in their water. They had lead levels in some places higher than Flint. They made it their job. They made it their

mission to organize a group. They did and organize their town, which they did. They went door to door. Knowledge is power. They informed them of what was going on. And so, you know, one of the ladies wanted to do more. She ran for local city council. She won. She did a referendum and put out to vote to the town of Hannibal, Missouri. Do you want ammonia in your water? Yes or no? Well, because they knew what was going on, they unanimously voted no. And then they got a law that there will be no more ammonia. And because of this activist group and this one mom, I'm happy to report that Hannibal, Missouri now has lead-free water. All right.

And so what can we do for ourselves each day? Do we just drink bottled water? Yeah, you mentioned reverse osmosis. Because I have one of these little filter things where I pour the tap in and it drips through. I've got a Brita filter. Is that good or am I just joking when I'm using a Brita? The first thing you have to do is you've got to know what's in your water to know how to filter your water, right? Get curious and call your municipality and get your water to know how to filter your water right get curious and call your

municipality and get your water quality report jack you're gonna have to know it's in your water then you have to pick the appropriate filtration system so britta won't necessarily clean pfos so each chemical i pissed in the top of it. It worked. Yes. Has anyone else done that? I did that with my old Brita. I pissed in the top before I threw it out just to see if it would come out like water. And? It was less yellow.

How did it taste? I didn't drink it. I didn't drink it. You got to commit to the experiment, Jim. I am not drinking water at your house. Yeah, be careful. It got clogged up with penis worms. They do send, I got an email from LAW, whatever the acronym. Yeah, they sent an email with the drinking water report.

They do it every year. I guess people probably just delete it. But I read through the whole thing. And I mean, according to them, it seemed to be pretty good. I mean, you know, I looked at some of the level, but that used to be in a former life. I used to look at stuff like that. But Forrest was a marine biologist.

He used to swim around. I used to check surface water quality is what I used to, not well fields and stuff like that. That's what he did for a living. He used to scuba dive around. In Miami-Dade County, it was surface water quality. So we were looking at like runoff and stuff like that, but still it was water quality. So we were looking at like runoff and stuff like that, but still it was water quality.

So yeah. Well, yeah, and you know, it's important in those reports, just because there's a guideline doesn't mean that it's safe. By way of example, PFOS, the firefighting foam, and PFOA, Teflon. Okay, EPA knew about 25 years ago because 3M notified them that this was going to be a huge problem. So they created a guideline, if you will, of 400 parts per trillion. So the municipalities could run that amount of that chemical through their system up to 400 parts per trillion.

If it's 401 parts per trillion, you have to report it. If it's 399 parts per trillion, you don't. So as the EPA commissions a study that took some 20 years on this chemical that's already into the marketplace science caught up with policy and four years ago we found out houston we have a problem this chemical causes liver cancer kidney cancer testicular cancer thyroid disease infertility and a whole host of problems that's part of the problem with the reports too is like if some if you get the email and you read it it says well it says it's within the acceptable limit but you don't really know as just a regular person what the acceptable limit is and if they're making

those limits with the companies then yeah who gives a shit yeah is there a chemical or a product that they could put in the water but it's too not-effective enough that you wish they'd put more in the water? Or is there nothing that we should add? We want less chemicals in our water. That's what we have to strive for, not more chemicals. Okay, but horse semen isn't a chemical. It's not a chemical. It's a natural thing.

Which one did he say? I didn't hear you. I said horse semen isn't a chemical. It's a natural product. And what would that do for you? Listen, if when you pee it hurts in the horse semen, I'm going both places. Jim just wants to jerk off a horse and pretend he's doing something good for the community.

Dinner and a show. Jim, what you could do and everybody else could do is you can get Aaron's book, Superman's Not Coming. It's literally in the title. It says our national water crisis and what we the people can do about it. I think you have an audio version as well, right? Is that? I did.

And by the way, that was the most painstakingly difficult thing I think I've ever done in my life, especially as a dyslexic. And boy, howdy. When you read something in your mind and then say it out loud, you don't even realize you're dropping S's or T's or pronunciation and go back. I had to go back and say perfluoroactanoic acid 500 times before I got it right. I thought it was just going to pull everybody. I got offered a book deal and they said,

and with comedians it's very important that you do an audio reading of the book. And I'm like fuck your deal jim's dyslexic jim's dyslexic as well jim is dyslexic yeah but yeah i was like i was like yeah your audio version would just be like loose base yeah yeah i know this story i grew up in in fucking sydney and uh as a young boy i wrote, oh fuck, what's that word? Yeah, that would be my audio book. You're right and it's amazing because if you're reading, you're thinking but you're not saying it how you drop an S or a T

or how you say things. I mean, honestly, Supreme Court Neil Gorshitz, I kept saying shits and so it was like, wait a minute, they go, Aaron, it's not Neil Gorshitz. I'm like, but I couldn't get, because the S was there. So you want to pick something up, drop something. But that's the book I want to hear, Erin. I want to hear the uncut version.

I want to hear the director's cut. It's just you calling people shits all the time. Jeez. So I, yeah, it was a big learning curve for me. But yes, it is on audio. But I got through it. I thought that was going to be something easy. And I was absolutely wrong. Well, I just say that for people like Jim that don't read a lot of books, but you would listen to the audio version, Jim.

So you can you can go to Aaron's website, Brockovich dot com, and the books are all linked up on there. We had we have a thing at the end called the Party Facts where we ask our guests to give a fact or something obscure to impress people. Like, so people could use to impress other people. I know that the lead and copper rule...

You already know I'm not being invited to the dinner party. Yeah, that's not true. You can come to a dinner party at my house. I'll piss in a burrito for you. I'll make sure it's... Okay.

That'll be like this. Hey, have you tried the... I'm probably joining that experiment with you, Jim. You're like, have you tried the spinach dip? And Aaron's like, do you know what the hell's joining that experiment with you you're like have you tried the spinach dip and aaron's like do you know what the hell's in the water and you're like gosh oh gosh aaron um i think you had said you were going to tell us about the lead and copper rule for the dinner party effect is there any other thing yeah i know

i know i know i was just uh saying that you already said that oh but is there anything else just on as a closing thing that maybe you want to share with our listeners viewers about water quality that they may or may not know so do you know i do you know iron brew is just scottish water that checks out do you you know i just did my dna i'm 34 scottish really have you had i remember 34% Scottish. Really? Have you had Irish? Yes.

I'm 55% English, so I did one of them as well. So I'm 47% English and 34% Scottish. Yeah. Yeah. Good tracks here. So I just said the DNA stuff's kind of cool. had mine done and i was like 55 british and 35 uh 34 um irish and then i was like one percent spanish or something it's like i'm pretty white right and then my ex kate she was uh 90 percent uh dutch and then 10 irish right yeah and then she goes maybe we should do our son and I go he's the whitest person that's ever lived

so we did his and they just sent back a sheet of white paper and a handsome CD Scottish in the water so I thought I'd throw that in there as a little tip and I got my DNA back I learned something new

okay what what did I say? Oh, yeah. Any closing things. That's what it was. Look, you know, we're just at a place. I go back to my Wizard of Oz story all the time. Not the movie, but L. Frank Baum and why he wrote The Wizard of Oz. You should read up on it because there's a whole political allegory.

But the moment where, you know, the Wicked witch puts them to sleep in the poppy fields. And sometimes I wonder or worry that somehow we got comfortable, complacent or under assumption or bought an illusion. We got put to sleep. I think we're watching a wake up moment. All of us. And that's what I want all of us to do is not assume and not get comfortable or complacent that someone's got your back. is not assume and not get comfortable or complacent that someone's got your back. We need to turn to ourselves and get involved ourselves. That is, I feel, a duty and obligation that all of us have to reengage and get involved and assume nothing. And Superman's not coming shouldn't make you feel bad. It should make you feel empowered.

Let's stop waiting for something from the top to trickle down magically and fucking change our lives because I think we know that's not going to happen. The change will happen with you. And that's what I want people to know. Ladies and gentlemen, Erin Brockovich, man. What a guest. It's very exciting. Yeah, I'm so excited, yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you're ever at a party, someone offers you a glass. Don't mind her. Someone offers you a glass of water, go, I don't know about that. See you next week. Don't invite her. And boy, howdy, give her a vodka or two. She will never shut up.

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