If I Were You - 191: The Emotionary (w/Eden Sher!)
Episode Date: January 4, 2016Actress and friend Eden Sher joins us to discuss new movies, new words, and staying hydrated.This episode is brought to you by MeUndies, Leesa, and BlueApron!See omny.fm/listener for privacy informati...on.
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Bye, were you?
If, if, if, if, if, if I were you.
If, if, if, if, if, if I were you.
If this was what I'd do, if, if, if, if, if I were you.
If, if, if, if, if, if, if I were you, they'll tell you what to do.
But they don't really have a clue if I were you, if, if, if, if, if I were you.
In a stick you sitch, looking for a fix.
and they'll probably make fun of you, if, if, if I were you, if, if, if, if I were you
they're not qualified in any way but they will tell you what to do, if, if, if I were you
Yeah
Great, great song
That was perfect
Did you love it?
I loved it so much
Alright, positive right off the bat
Eden
Yes
How do you pronounce your last name?
However your heart desires
Sure
Yes, that is correct
No, no, no, let me try, let me try
Wait, sure
That's also, also correct
Not as correct but still correct in your heart
Thanks for coming by
Thank you for having me
Did you really mean it when you said you've never done a podcast before?
I've meant it 100%
Wow, holy shit
I know
What an honor
I know
This is happening
Yeah, I think like I know, like I know for you
Totally
You guys are so fortunate right now
For us
For me this sucks
That guy's name was Jacob Legrand
He had your name
Jacob?
Yeah
Legrand
Jake wrote that
He actually wrote it from scratch
If, if, if
Oh yeah, and then it was so popular that the, the, the Beach Boys ended up covering it
Yeah
They changed the words
They went back in time and re-recorded it
I feel like the most important part of that is that Jake is a time traveler
Yeah
He's a good musician
But also, yeah, he invented a time machine
So Eden, how would people know who the heck you are?
Like why are you here and how, what, what do we, what would they know you from?
Man, um, well, I would say most people don't, they might know me from, um, I do a show on ABC
It's a big one
Television, yeah, it's a big television network
Yeah
And, yeah, Shenzhou, it's definitely, I love it, it's called The Middle
And it's on ABC Wednesday nights, 8 p.m., 7 central
Well, your teeth are sparkling right now
It's weird because all those details were wrong
It's on Fox at 2 p.m. every other Sunday
Yeah
It's football
Wait, I also, there's more
Wait, there's more
Okay
Nobody knows me from these other things
But these are things I'm doing
These are the things that you're really excited about
Yeah, and I shouldn't even say that
That's, I'm super excited about The Middle
I've just been doing it for so many years
How many years?
We're in our seventh year
Wow
Holy shit
Many years
Congratulations
Thank you, it's super cool
So what are you
What's the new exciting stuff?
Because that's old and exciting
Exactly, it's like make new friends but keep the old one as one and the other's gold
So what's the gold?
I don't know which one is good
Which one is better?
One is one and one is the other
Gold's definitely worth more
But silver kind of like goes in
But silver's prettier and like shinier and like will just try like
That's true
Yeah, when they said one is silver and the other's gold
Are they saying that one of them is better than the other?
Or are they saying both of them are equally precious?
I think silver and gold are both very equally precious
And I think people like, well, you know
But why would they choose the Olympic medals that are specifically first and second place?
One is first and the other's second
We're never going to let her see other things that she's doing
I just want to get to the bottom of this medal controversy
One is bronze and the other one's fine
That's fine
That one's wood
If there were one is better than the other
Which one does the song, do you think insinuates is better?
The new, right?
Make new friends but keep the old
No, probably gold because gold is worth more
But it's like
Also old and gold
Is that a thing?
Well, it just has to run
You know what? We're just going to leave it
I want to figure it out
Exactly a decision as the host
It's done
What are the other things?
I also do a cartoon for Disney Channel
It's called Star vs. the Forces of Evil
I love it so much
Are you a star?
I'm a star
Oh, thank goodness
No, I know
I would have to just kick me right out
Who's evil?
Actually Alan Tudyk plays
Oh, this little mini thing
I believe it's like alien princess
Like super cool
And this little like evil thing
He plays the robot and I robot
He's the one that yells I did not murder him
Oh, really? That's like the one impression you can do
Is that real?
Yeah
He's the one impression
Will you tell Alan that I'd love to
Well, do the impression
I did not murder him
That's good
He also does Anthony Kitas
Do you know Anthony Kitas?
And you do Kermit the Frog?
Oh, yeah
So do Kermit the Frog singing
Red Hot Chili Peppers?
Under the bridge down there
Now to the guy for I Run
On the Disney Channel
I'm on the Disney Channel
Yes, I also have a website
That I have not updated in a while
But I'm very still passionate about the idea
It's called The Emotionary
Oh, that's a book that's coming out
Yes, it is
Next year
The Emotionary
Yes, it's the-emotionary
Oh
Eventually, the updated website
Very soon will be coming out
Nice
Can I make a quick recommendation?
Please
Buy the URL without the hyphen
I feel like I tried
Maybe I didn't
Because I just went to that one
And it's unavailable
What is it?
Nothing, it's nothing
That's why I'm saying you should buy it
And just have it redirected
Forward it
And you should do it before this episode comes out
Because I'm giving a lot of mean people
The idea of stealing it for you
I know
And then I'm gonna- oh my god
Did you hear that someone bought Google for $12?
Also
What, huh?
Yeah, it was like a thing
So irrelevant
So doesn't matter
I should buy this URL
It made me- hopefully like someone would buy it
Oh, you're saying Google before Google was around
No
Some guy sold it to Google for $12?
No, there was like a loophole like recently
And someone bought it for $12
And then like immediately Google like
Contacted them and they were like
This is a mistake
But they- he would contact the guy
He bought it, contacted them and it's like
This is a huge problem
By the way, you guys
The domain expired
Like how did you guys let that slip through your cracks?
I'll sell it back to you for $12
Yeah
Can you go as high as $14?
I feel like a real asshole
But I bought Google
I actually might just
Turn it into a personal blog
Yeah, actually I'm just gonna do it
Unless you can give me like $16
So this, what are we doing here?
Right now it's an advice podcast
It's called If I Were You
It's actually the only advice podcast
On the whole internet that Jake and I host
And sometimes
It's just us two
And sometimes we have a guest
Sometimes you're privileged
Yeah
Honored
You know, Eden is
Grew up where I grew up
Really?
Yeah, we both grew up in the valley
Well
I didn't grow up in Israel
Have you ever been to Israel?
I haven't
I was supposed to go on birthright
And I got denied
What?
They don't deny anyone
My name is Eden
My name- yes
I don't know
I don't know what the fuck
I don't know what happened
You didn't get into birthright?
Like it's not a thing that
Like technically
Yes, they're like encouraging people
Yeah
But I don't know what happened
They were like
We can't take you on this trip at this time
Eventually
I was like
You spent six months
In an al-Qaeda training camp
Right?
I just didn't think it would matter
I just didn't like
I'm not in it now
Right, dude
What?
You're currently out of it
Yeah
So these
I'm going to be reading real emails
From real people
I'm going to ask you to give them fake names
Just to preserve their anonymity
Putting that sweet
So this first one
Is from a dude named
Alfonso
That's really good
Ethnic
Hi guys, Alfonso here
My girlfriend is a bit of a nympho
And she likes to have sex multiple times a day
I would say she's a total smoke show
But I would be lying
Anyway, to the point
I tend to get dehydrated
I'm being a scythe
To get to the point
I tend to get dehydrated throughout the course of the day
And during said sexual activities
I try to drink a lot of water and Gatorade
But hydration breaks are a no-go for her
So I have been thinking about
Wearing a camelback backpack
During sex
My friends completely disapprove
But I think it would be a convenient
And only add to the sex
So I was wondering what your thoughts were
Thanks, Alfonso
Okay
Initial reactions
I'm a fan
Whoa
Yeah, I think
I mean communication is key
So just got to like
He can't show up with the camelback on
I think it would be really disconcerting
However, although
I don't know, it could be
All over, although, but yet still
It could be like
How long have you been dating his girlfriend?
A year
Do they say?
Just long enough to call her ugly in this EBS
I know
Let's pretend like that didn't happen
Yeah, well I mean right off the bat
I'm like a little less on his side
Yeah
But
However, but yeah, still
A camelback during sex
I think as long as if he's
And like if she's into it
If he knows
I was like
If he knows her well enough
To like
If it's like a funny like
Yeah
Yo, babe
Yeah
I'm thirsty
I think working one time is a funny thing
But if you're like continually trying to do it
Maybe
How dehydrated is he getting?
How long are these sashes?
45 hours straight?
Nine days in the Sahara
Yeah, do they have to do it in the heat?
Well, I don't understand
Wait, that is actually a really good point
I can understand
Get like
Whatever
But if he's like
Consciously throughout the day
Drinking water
And Gatorade
And he's still like
Yeah
Like fatigued
There's something like
A little okay about him pausing
During sex to have water
But so gross if he pauses
To have Gatorade
Yeah
Hot Gatorade
Oh, one second
Oh, lemon lime
Lukewarm Gatorade
Two gallon can't
It's perfect
Yeah, it's like
The bottle is sweating on the inside
Ew
You know, the kind used to PPN
Yeah
Maybe he's confused
That's enough, dude
We have a guest
And I don't urinate in Gatorade bottles
Anymore
Anymore than somebody else who does
Yeah
Unless it's an emergency
And I'm driving
And I have to
And there are no swell bottles around
Yeah, dude
Shout out to Swell
Yeah
We all three of us
It's just
I guess not independently
You guys not
But independently of you
I have my own swell bottle
And I think that's funny
Free plugs, Swell, what up?
They've earned it
We love them
So
Backpack you're saying
Yeah, go for it
I mean, also
Why doesn't he just
I don't understand
He's like
He's like brought up
Like I need a water break
And she's been like
Now
Yeah
You can't stop fucking me
Yeah
Are a no go for her
God, imagine that
Getting a fat rejection
For a water break
I think why
Definitely that ruins the mood
To be like
Hold on, I need to
Go get water
Yeah
What's happening during sex
That needs to stay moist
And it's not your mouth
Oh, nice
Thank you
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
45 minutes
All of our mouths are dry
I'd say anything to
Change things up would be fun
If this girl's actually having sex
Multiple times a day
For weeks, months, years on end
But like
Oh, yeah, it adds to it
Having a camel back
Adds to it
It does not add to it
Let's just like
Call a spade a spot
Nice
Anything
I am a firm
Anything can add to it
If you want it to
If it's like
If you were
If you like
I mean she might
She might be like
What the fuck is that
It adds to it for him
But like what's
It's not going to add to it for her
It might
It'd be funny
If you like
Where's it with confidence
And then it's like
Alright babe
Like I got to stay
Like I got to stay
Like in it for you
And I don't want to take a break
Like someone sexy about it
Like oh you're so dehydrated
That you can't even fuck
Without like
Needing to prepare
Like you're going into the wilderness
Maybe
Or it's like
He has iodine pills
Yeah
He's wearing a bandana
Cargo shorts
And a cliff bar
Tivas
He has goo
You know we often talk about
How guys like sex more than girls
That's not true
But yeah
But then there's
I agree
There's that next level of like
Once you're in a relationship
We often get questions about like
My girlfriend like
Wants to have sex so much more than I do
Oh yeah
I feel like the trajectory is like
Sort of
It's an inverse bell curve
So it's like
Girls like it the least
And then also the most
I think the thing about girls
Liking it the least
One is a really antiquated
Like stereotype
Cause it's like
Yeah you little
You misogynist
You chauvinist pig
Let me mansplain something to you honey
But also
Or whatever
Cause like
Girls don't shake
Shaming all that stuff
But also
I think girls have to deal
Girls are hit on all the time
So the like
Just like
Girls get the reputation of like
Not liking sex as much
Cause they just don't want to have sex
As many people
Like they don't just want to have sex with you
Yeah yeah
It's like about the
Oh girls hate sex
No they hate you
Yeah
Once the trust is established
I think it comes down
It's like an evolutionary thing
Like girls can have multiple orgasms
And guys
If they
If guys could have multiple orgasms
It's like Streeter's joke
Where he's like
The first guy would just die
Holding his dick
Like there would not be humanity
Cause he would just jerk off
24-7
Starve to death
And die
I thought that was Streeter's thing
Where he like
Thought that there
There should be vaginas on your hand
That's a different idea he had
But I think both
Yeah both of those things were true
There would actually be
It would
Like there would
Just be a planet
Or a female
God how does it work
If you're a female
You can have an orgasm
And then just
Seconds later
Be down again
Isn't that crazy to think about?
Yeah it's dope
Girls have it real good
Y'all don't need a break at all
But then it leads to this situation
Where like girlfriends are
You know
Being called a nympho
Likes to have sex multiple times
Cause she could just
She can have
She can orgasm
What's the most times you've orgasm
Than a jade jake
In a day
Yeah
I mean it's been
It's been a minute
But like I had
I like came seven or eight times in a day
Because you had sex seven times
Oh if we're just talking sex
The most times I had sex in a day
Is maybe like six
That's so much
Like
And then like by the end
I've had sex like four times
In a sitting
But then it's like paint
But like by the fourth, fifth, sixth
It's just a painful thing
But for the lady
It's not
Well like
Is it literally
Physically painful
Like my peen
Can only handle so much
Once it's like spitting
Like
It leads a break
Well you're also
You're wearing condoms right
Yeah I'm always
Like
If you're having condomless sex
It doesn't hurt
But it's hard to maintain an erection
True
But even without a condom
You can't have sex more than
Let's say six times
Seven times a day
I could have sex that many times
I wouldn't be able to
But orgasm right
Yeah
But a girl
Is there a theoretical maximum
Not that you may or may not know
But is it possible to just have
A hundred orgasms in a day
Or is there also
A little bit of a diminishing
I think there's a little
I mean I don't know
I can only speak
Because it's personal
Of course
There's a little bit of diminishing
Also it's not like
It's not like
I mean I don't
I mean I don't know
I guess everyone's different
But like you can't
There still has to be some time
In between
Oh there does
It's a diminishing
It's like a time
That you could use for a water break
This guy can't
I feel like before
Camelback is a last ditch effort
Sorry just to bring it back to
Any questions
Right
Camelback's a last ditch effort
If you like
Just try one time
To like
Hydrate yourself throughout the day
I think you can do it
I think he's looking
A bit more of a like
A freaky like
New thing to try
Yeah I think he wants
Yes no I think he wants
That's what it is
I think he wants an excuse
To try this
Yeah it's like
Remember that Seinfeld
Where Costanza's trying to
Eat a sandwich and watch TV
During sex to achieve
The holy trifecta
Cause he's like
The best three things
Are sex, eating and
Watching TV
And so he's like
If I can get all three of them
And he got greedy
He like started eating a sandwich
While having sex
And the girl realized that
He tried to hide it from her
I tried one time
I tried to
And this also
Goes back to like
Girls being
Whatever, crazier
Like wanting more sex
Than guys
Wait when does this
Actually it doesn't
It doesn't matter where the
Termination is
Sometime in December
Not exactly sure
I'm just
Queen of TMI
I don't care
Okay
Specifically for my boyfriend
One time I
Cause I'm planning on
Breaking up with them
On December 13th
So this could come out
After that
No one time
We were watching
They might be giants
Documentary
And I
Don't know if you like them
Or know them
Whatever
But he
Is obsessed with them
And I really like them
And the documentary was great
And then it was over
Like it was like
Ah like Dana
Like watch a movie
And then just like
What happens in life
When you're like an adult
In a relationship
After you watch a movie
You go to bed
And if you go to bed
You're probably gonna have sex
And so the like
The
You know
The movie ends
And I'm like
Hey I'm here
Like ah like
I'm like
I'm like
I'm like
I'm like
I'm like
I'm like
Oh shit
Shut down for special features
Yes
Super rejected
That hurts
So let
Yeah
Wait what was the point
That was really
But it's also beautiful
Because he's completely honest
And open with you
Yes
Yes
Like he didn't want
Him to hide that feeling
Like he
He thought it
And then he didn't feel like
Obligated to lie to you
And say like
And be thinking about
Special features
While he's having sex with you
Right
So if you think about it
It's actually a
Term of endearment
That he said that
If you think about it
Actually he was really honest
Wasn't he
Well
It's like you've been in that
Situation before
Yeah
Um
Yeah
So I guess
So maybe like
With the
I guess yeah
He didn't lie
I just
I just agree with what
Blumenfeld was saying
Well how long were you
In the relationship
That's another thing
Was it new and exciting
Or was it like
Is this like a
Seven year thing
No no
It was probably like
Six, seven months
Oh yeah he should have
Fucked
Special features
Now you're just tired
It is tough to tell
People sometimes that you're
Tired
Which is why I almost
Never ever do it
You just type
Tough through it
You just lie
I just have sex
Right
Yeah
It's more like
It's almost like
Going to the gym
It's just
I mean
It's way way better
But
In this way it's like
The idea is
Like the effort
Like thinking about it
You're like
I don't really feel like
You know
Thrusting
And like getting sweaty
But then as soon as
My dick gets hard
I'm like
Oh actually I do
Well it's like
So if I just like
Suspend my reality
For a minute
A little bit
It's like being hung over
When you're like
Hung over
You're like
I can't imagine drinking
And then like
When you feel a little bit
Better than start drinking
And you're like
Oh this is fine
Yeah
Exactly
That's right
Sex is fine
We should go on
To the next question
So we can answer
Multiple ones
But I just have one
Sex in the shower
Doggy style
She's turned around
You are facing the stream
As often as you want
The water might be a little hot
But you can sip
Tell your heart's content
He will be fully hydrated
And she will be fully satisfied
Because they are having sex
Get a water bed
The conclusive response
The answer
Pierce it with a straw
Get a water bed
Pierce it like a fucking capri sun
And just fill it up
With powerade
A camelback bed
Yeah
That is such a good idea
A camel bed
A camel bed
Fuck podcasting dude
We're gonna be rich
We gotta get back on
Twinnovation
This was my idea
You guys just stole it
Alright
Next question
This one is written by another dude
Okay
Named
Kale
Carlson
Carlson
Kale Carlson
Kale Carlson
Kale Carlson writes
Kale Carlson
Hey it's me
Kale Carlson
As you probably might know
Star Wars Episode 7
Is coming out in December
My dad who saw the original movies as a kid
Passed them down to me
And I have revered them
As perfect gems ever since
A few months ago
I decided to share them with my girlfriend
Of two years
And after watching all three
We decided to go see the new one
On opening night
A few weeks later
My dad casually asked
If he and I were going to see it together
And I couldn't say no to the guy
Who got me into this whole
Star Wars thing to begin with
Originally I had planned on taking my
Girlfriend on opening night
And maybe catching it again
With my dad next weekend
But I realized there's a problem
Saying I've loved this movie for years
And I'd like to show it to you
Is not at all as saying
I saw this movie last week
With someone more important
So I guess your turn now
Should I go back on my promise to my girlfriend
Or ruin a man's chance
To relive his childhood
Star Wars premiere memories
Thank you so much
Love Kale Carlson
Kale
Well, I'm sorry
I'm just taking it
I am actually seeing
With my boyfriend on opening night
Star Wars
And
But it's
It's like a sort of a solution
And maybe it doesn't
He doesn't want to do this
I'm seeing it with his whole family
You make a big family thing
Yeah
And yeah
And his sister and her boyfriend
He played Darth Maul in Phantom Menace though
So like you guys have an in, right?
Yeah
So that's really cool
Cool
Have you seen all the six of the Star Wars?
No
I have not seen the
Like first
I've not seen the new
The second trilogy
Yeah
I haven't
Did you see the original three
In anticipation of episode seven?
No, I should rewatch them
I also
One of my greatest sources of shame
I didn't see Star Wars
Until like
A year and a half or two years ago
I'm yours
I'm the same way
I just saw the first one
Like last week
Because somebody was like
What the hell, you haven't seen Star Wars?
I'm like, no, I haven't
Maybe it's a thing
It's an 818 thing
Maybe
What if nobody in the valley
Ever saw the
Any Star Wars movie
Holy shit
We should
Did you have any siblings?
Older siblings
I had an older brother
And a younger brother
Did they see Star Wars?
Yeah, somehow
My little brother
Little brother
Where the hell did
How did he see him?
Yeah
Loved him
He said
According to his upbringing
He grew up with them
Did you ever know that?
Or that was a news flash to you?
What year did they come out?
77, 81, 83 or something
That's weird
I don't know how
You were not even born yet
Yeah
I mean
They're like legendary
Yeah
We should just call every
We should go to the yellow pages
Find a yellow page
Yeah, that's how old we are
We know about yellow pages
Yeah
We should know Star Wars
Yeah
We could call every 818 number
That's technically the white pages
Find a white page
Did you like them when you saw them?
Yeah
It was weird in that
I knew everything about them already
And there were no
And I have to
You have to watch it in the context of
Oh, this was the
Because you watch it and you're like
Uh-huh
Yeah, obviously
I know this stuff
The graphics are bad
The acting is really slow
Yeah, even if it isn't paused
It's not as good as gravity
I actually like Jurassic World more
I think it was because
I wasn't born in America
You were born in Israel?
That was my excuse
That's a great illegitimate excuse
It's a fake excuse
Yeah
Also, people in Israel have seen Star Wars
Yeah
That's pretty global
All right, Star Wars aside
Who should he see this movie with?
I think he should totally see it with his dad
And I think he's been dating his girlfriend for
Two years
I think he should understand
She'll understand
Yeah, the thing he said about
I'll see it with you
I guess we'll see it with you
Also, the mark of you're in a good relationship
He doesn't even have to make a decision
He could tell his girlfriend this conundrum
Say, I'm worried
It seems like my dad wants to see it
I want to see it with you
I don't really know what to do
And if she's a good partner
She will say
Of course, see it with your dad
I don't care about seeing it on an opening night
It sounds like it's important to you two
You can see it whenever
But what if she's like
She waited like
Fuck that, noise
She waited 30 years to see the original ones
She can wait more
Your dad's an old piece of shit
He doesn't have to see the movie with you, baby
I then immediately break up
Yeah, I think that turns into a different question
And then for sure
Could your dad blow you like this
And then what if she blows them?
And then she chips your tooth on it
Yes, he could, yeah
Yeah, I guess he could probably
I mean, he's never tried
What? Why are we talking about this?
Nobody could blow me better than my dad
This is crazy
He told me how to throw a baseball
This is a great tangent
What's the most popular movie you've never seen?
I haven't seen The Godfather
That's pretty good
That's a good one to have never seen
Neither have I
Really? Wow
That would have been my answer too
Oh my god
I got a good one
Okay
Wizard of Oz
Oh my god
You just walk out
But I feel like I know the plot of Wizard of Oz
The Wizard of Oz isn't necessarily one
That still holds up like
Oh, it's one of the best movies of all time
You're supposed to have seen it when you were little
But nobody is like
It's not a revered
Yeah
It's a classic, I guess
I don't know, it's not revered
What do you mean?
It is revered
It's not held to the same
Walk out again
I'm back in
Now I mean like
People still say like
The Godfather is one of the best movies of all time
It's like influenced cinema
In this incredible way
You should see it
Right
Nobody is necessarily saying that about the Wizard of Oz
While I don't
You might be wrong
There's a chance that you're just completely wrong
But I don't know either
You're not talking to the right people, maybe
Yeah
Well, I guess in my world
It's never come up that the Wizard of Oz
Is a staple of modern cinema
Right
So I can't be wrong about that
Because it came out in 1939
Sure
No, it didn't
Yeah, it did
It came out in the 30s
It came out in the 30s
It came out the same year that World War II started
Actually, let me check
Because it might even be older than that
There's a lot of movie nerds
That are just yelling at us right now
And we can't hear them at all
Yeah
Also, I think you're like the verbiage of what you said was
Holy shit, I nailed it
1939
Wow
Good work
So maybe I do know
It is a staple of modern cinema
Yeah, I would say it is a staple of modern cinema
You're so right in that
Yeah, why not?
Whatever
I disagree
It doesn't matter
Nothing actually matters
So we all think
Actually, whoa, it has a 4% rotten tomato
People hate it
No
They actually prefer Snowpiercer
Shit, critically panned
Jesus, it was not as good as Memento
Yeah
Not as good as Godfather
Definitely not a staple of modern cinema
Jake nailed it
This is insane
I wrote that review
How did it get to be the top option on Google?
Yeah, how are you a certified critic?
Jesus
Yeah, I am a Siskel and Ebert
Of yourself
Siskel meets Ebert, meets Hurwitz
I think we all agree of Team Dad over Team Girlfriend
Yeah
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah
I think totally
Again, communication
Just talk to her
She'll get it
Or do the, yeah
Do the MyBF thing
And do it all in one
Knock all the birds with
Girlfriend is below family
Fiancé is half family
And wife is the closest family
Whoa
So, let's uh
Like it jumps over the line
That's why I love my future wife the most
I just don't know who she is yet
Fair
So, once I do find her, I'll take her to see Star Wars with me
We're gonna take a little break
And then come back with more questions
And more Eden
And more Jake, I guess too
Gracias
Yeah
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Getting to know Eden
And now we're ready to have the second half
We'd all hate each other now
We didn't even believe
We're all mad at each other
You grew up where I grew up, right?
Yeah
So how do you think that
I want to talk about fucking California
I want to talk about Connecticut
Oh yeah, what do you think about New Haven?
New Haven
New Haven
New Haven
Have you ever been to Connecticut?
I used to go to Connecticut all the time
Whoa
I dated a guy who went to Wesleyan
Really?
I grew up 20 minutes from Wesleyan
I know, I always got off with the New Haven stuff
Yeah, you did
Union Station
Love it too
What's his name, Wesley?
Um, yes
It was Ann
There's got to be someone named Wesley
Who goes to Wesleyan, right?
That is a great solid point
Of course, load up Facebook, baby
No, Wizard of Oz was the staple of modern cinema
Amazing
It's not what I was saying
It's not what I was saying
It's not a staple of modern cinema
Yes, you did say that
You said it's not a staple of modern cinema
Nope
You did actually say that sentence
I said, not in
Not solidified my mind as a staple of modern cinema
I don't know what it is to cinematographers
Cinematographers are what you call people that like movies
Yeah, they're the only people that are allowed
If you're not a cinematographer, you don't like cinema
If you're not a cinemafile, I'm sorry
Am I not allowed to misspeak on the podcast?
Oh, I'm sorry
Am I on trial?
Is everything I say get played back to me?
Or do you just like to call me on little shit
So you can feel good about yourself
Yeah, we can play it back actually
Yeah, let me
No, we actually already talked about your show
And your website, The Emotionary
But what is The Emotionary?
It is
I'll give you the elevator pitch right now
It's
The Emotionary
It's a dictionary for your feelings
It's words that don't exist for feelings that do
Whoa
Oh, kind of like how like the
Schadenfreude, like the
Yes, sorry
So what's an example of a word that doesn't exist for an emotion that does?
Oh, I have a good one
Go for it
The way a mom feels when a homeless person makes her baby laugh
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry
The way, how, what, what, specify that feeling a little more
Is it like a happy, cause there
It's like a ha ha ha, cautious, laughter, nervous
But actually happy, cause her baby's smiling
Um, okay, here's a similar
I'll, I'll do you one better with an actual word that exists
Cause it's a little bit like that
Okay
But like, not quite
Yeah, it's not as good
It's like, skepticism
Skepticism
Yeah
So it's skeptical, it's optimism
And it's a little bit more like
Is that in your emotion?
Yeah
Is it like caution?
What's the difference between skepticism and cautious optimism?
Or is it just one word?
Like, you don't think it's gonna work out, but you hope it does?
Yeah, exactly
So it's a little like, with the mom, it's like
I hope, like, I don't know if this is gonna work out
Cause there's a homeless guy, like, entertaining my child
But I hope it's just a chill, a chill time right now
So I have a good, I
I'm gonna let this guy babysit
You know what?
Yeah
I trust this
I'm skeptomistic enough
The, the, the second half is like
Oh, that's good, skeptomistic
I could adopt that
Right?
Are a lot of them portmanteaus like that?
Most of them are portmanteaus, yeah
Some of them are taken from like
Yeah, like Latin root or like
Actually, this is also kind of a
Seinfeld thing, like Vindexant
Okay, what's that?
Which is just, it's taken from like
The like Latin, like vindicated or whatever
And then it's, I don't know what the second half is
But it just like, I just took some, like
I know what makes something, I looked at it like
What makes something an adjective
And then like Vinny or whatever
Which is like wanting redemption
And it's like Vindexant
It's the feeling of
It's not like anything a French word for it
But the, the feeling of like
Thinking of the perfect thing to say
Yeah
After you've left
Oh yeah
And you just like, the like need for vindication
Oh wait, so like a comeback
That you didn't have it in the moment
That's also a Seinfeld thing
That is it, yeah
There's like, the jerk store called
They're running out of you
Yeah, yeah
Well, I don't know why
You're their best customer
And then he stands up and goes
I had sex with your wife
And then some guy
Wait, what's the word for that feeling?
Vindexant
Vindexant
I like that a lot
Yeah, I get it
Give us one more
Okay
There, there's one that I love so much
That I've used as an example
And it's totally, it's polarizing
I realize it's hit or miss
So hopefully you guys have enough problems
That you'll relate
I don't have any problems
I can't wait to have one
It's gonna be so good
Actually I'll do two
Okay, one is
This is one
Emotal
Emotal
Emote and spiral
Which is
To think and judge oneself
In such rapid succession
It ultimately causes
Immobility
That's the word
Yeah, I should have these memorized
Okay, emotal
Yeah
So you're like paralyzed with emotion?
Yeah, just like we're like neurotic
Like, oh god, I shouldn't have
Oh, here's one
Solemn plate
Which is solipsistic contemplating
And it's to harbor emotions
About an embarrassing event
That nobody remembers but you
Harbour emotions about an embarrassing
Solemn plate?
Yeah
Solo contemplating
Yeah, sure
And you're doing it in a solemn way
Ooh, I didn't even think of that
What was the first one?
The first one ever was
Like how did this start?
Well, it started
Because I broke up with that
Fucking Wesleyan
Yeah
From Wesleyan
From La La
Yeah
And I just was so
I had all of the feelings at the same time
And I was like
I'm also just like
Like perfection
Like I gotta work
Like I refuse to not be like
Constructed with my depression
Yeah
And so I like started
Just like
Pinned one of these feelings
And then I was like
I'm gonna do something with this
Yeah
And then I
You know, love puns
Who doesn't love puns
Yeah, I like puns
It actually
I think it was more like
Started with like the word
Emotionary
And I was like
Yup, this is it now
So how many words are you up to?
I have like
I think
Like a
162
Book-ready words
Wow
And then I have a couple still in
I'm gonna try to come up with one
Please
I used to have a thing on that
When I was really into it
When I like really was trying to
Like
I got really busy
Because I have a ton of projects
Yeah dude
But like
But when I was really
Thick into it
I like had a submit section
On the website
What do you think of kinetic hunt?
Oh god
What does it mean?
I'm sorry
Um
No, let's hear him out
I'm not quite sure where he's going with this
Shred lightly
That's great
And what if the definition is just
Now and a human named
Jake
Oh
What's his last name?
Yeah
Hurwitz
I did it
I was like
If not Legrante
My fingers were crossed
But was the guy from Connecticut
Or you just went to school there?
No
Well I tried
I'll keep thinking
Don't
Don't
Don't worry about me
I can squeeze words together
I can make puns
You'll have 165
Are you gonna be self-pungratulatory?
Oh
Very important
Very important
I forget what I was gonna say
The Emotionary puns, portmanteaus
Oh, all right, yeah
Okay, it's all out there
Do you want to answer some more questions?
I would love to
All right
What was that noise?
Martin is in the kitchen
Someone
He shouldn't be here like that
I like that
He shouldn't be here like that
Sorry about that
You shouldn't be heard like that
We'll have a talk with him after the show
Which question should we answer?
Maybe a question from a lady?
I was just telepathy
Oh, actually this one's from a girl
Do you want to read it?
Yeah
Nice try
You were a little too excited
Don't give her your computer
Hey dudes, I'm gonna
You have to give her a fake name too
Okay
I just gave some
I gave me a fake name
The other night
Cause I didn't want a guy to know my name
So I'm gonna give her also
And it is Angela
Angela
Same name as you had the other night
Totally
Okay
Hey dudes
I'm a high school senior
Who has a question with a somewhat obvious answer
Okay
But I'm still not sure how to handle the situation
So I'm writing into the only advice podcast
On the internet
Hosted by you too
That's when you said that earlier
Yeah
So that I can move forward
There's this guy I met last year
That I thought was pretty cute
So I
So that that was pretty cute
So I was kind of disappointed
To learn he had a girlfriend
We ended up still becoming friends
And still talk today
The issue is the sexual tension between us
I never acknowledged it
And it really
And it never really escalated
This
I'm so sorry
Cause I'm halfway through
Can I give it to you to read?
I realize it's too much pressure
I'm too bad of a reader
I can read it
You can read it?
Okay
I hope people don't get confused
Of the voice swing
Oh my god
This is
I also hate reading aloud
Yeah
But I read this question before
So like I can
I can handle it
It's in your head
But yeah like the commas
And the fucking
Oh
Like the letters
Don't get me started
Yeah and then there's spaces
What are those?
Like where does one word start
And the other one end
You shouldn't have put her on the spot
Like that blue
Hey dudes
I'm a high school senior
Who has a question with a somewhat obvious answer
But I'm still not sure how to handle the situation
So I'm writing into the only advice podcast
On the internet
I'm hosted by you too
So that I can move forward
We could probably just cut that out
Since I just reiterated
What she already said
I bet
There's this guy I met last year
That I thought was pretty cute
So I was kind of disappointed to learn
He had a girlfriend
We ended up becoming friends
And still talk today
The issue is the sexual tension between us
I never acknowledged it
And it never really escalated
That is until recently
Huh?
I suddenly can't read
This is something about this email
That it's impossible to read it out loud
It's in hieroglyphics after the second paragraph
He is still with his girlfriend of almost two years
Wow, I really can't read it
He is still with his girlfriend
Of almost two years now
But in the past two weeks
Our snapchats have gone from friendly to sexual
Ooh
I take all the blame here
As I initiated sending him daily ass shots
After a week or so
I realized how wrong it was
And how bad I'd feel
If I were in his girlfriend's position
So I stopped for a few days
But I missed the compliments I was getting
So I pretty much reluctantly answered
His request of more pics
This led him wanting me to help cheat
On his girlfriend just once
I told him no and talked to me after they broke up
Even to go so far as to enter into a virginity pact
With him wherein we would have sex
After spring break if he's single
Parentheses, my idea
It wasn't enough for him though
And he keeps pushing and telling me
We basically already cheated on his girlfriend
Because he and our friend
Felt me up in my car twice
And made me touch their boners
As a sort of joke
Anyways, I know it's wrong to cheat
And it's certainly against my own moral code
But there's also such things as a side chick, right?
But then again, that is also
Not a great person to be
I really don't know where to go with this
Even though I thought I did
I don't want to lose an opportunity
Because I don't get them a lot right now
And I want to have a sexual experience
When I get to college
But I also don't think cheating is okay
Do you guys have any advice
On how to get out of this sticky situation?
Please stop
No pun intended
Oh, she said please stop doing live shows
In places far away
Fine
Stickuation, stickuation
Love forever, Angela
A lot of it
This is a confused adolescent
Yeah, this is a teenager
Who is just swirled with
Hormones, emotions, feelings
New, old
There's a lot of confusion there
Yes
One of the most confusing
Slash funniest sentences
Is when she said that
I know it's wrong to cheat
But there's such a thing as a side chick, right?
Yeah
That's what the cheating is
That's like where the cheaters
That's what the cheaters are
Yeah, that's just naming
What the bad thing is
Yeah, it's like I know murder is illegal
But there's such a thing as victims, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's what the murder is
Such a thing as murderers, actually
Maybe she's thinking of a side kick
And just didn't know that there was a
She's like, that's a cool
Sorry, I was trying to read it again
There were so many things in it
You're trying to save her
I have questions that I couldn't read
And listen at the same time, I guess
Yeah, that's another thing
Also people that write in
Don't have the best grammar
So there's a lot of
It's like singing on the fly
Yeah, you guys
I have a new respect for how
You read and listen to yourself read
And give good advice
Okay, so does she know
She doesn't know the girlfriend
She does
Let's say she does not
Okay, or she's not like friends with a girl
Yeah, yeah
That's a personal issue, I guess
I just don't
It sounds like she does
If she initiated
I don't know, she initiated
The Snapchat
It seems like
Again, she's just asking for an excuse
Someone to be like, yeah, whatever
It's okay, side chicks are a real thing
That exists, also not just in your head
Yeah
Side chicks are what the cheaters are
What she's doing isn't right
But it's not like so fucked up
Like
Cheating the final act of like actually
I always equate cheating to a house
That you don't want to be in, right?
So like, you're
The house is the relationship
She shouldn't be like walking around the front lawn
Right
But you know what, it's fine
You're allowed to
You can peek in through the windows
It doesn't make you really bad person
Totally
Now she's like kind of ringing the bell
And the guy's inviting her in
And you can't enter the house
Once you've entered the cheating house
Then you're a burglar
You're a bat
Like that's you fucking everything up
Yeah, totally
All I can think of is that the cheater would be like a vampire
And they have to be invited in
And they're like they shouldn't be there
But that's
I like that actually
That's pretty nice
They do have to be invited in
They do have to be
And they can
It takes two people to do this
That's true
And I will say
I sometimes get a little defensive of like
Because again like girls sometimes it's like
Oh, they're a home wrecker
And it's like
Well, I mean there has to be
It's like she's not the one in the relationship
And the guy was just complicit in this
True
I will say that she initiated
But then if she did
Then she's clearly, yeah
She's okay with it
And if she's gonna
Like at the
She's to like look inside of herself
And if she's like
This is my journey
Then like she's gonna have
And whether it's a mistake or not
She's gonna
She wants
Also she's a
She's going to college
She's a virgin
Yeah
Sounds like there's a lot of
Because I experienced this too
A lot of pressure
To be like
You gotta
You gotta lose it
You gotta lose it before college
Before college
Yeah
Why so that it doesn't happen in college
I guess
I don't know
Well, just so you can like go there
As like sort of
An adult and like
Not have to worry about
Getting laid
Like if somebody asks you
Like have you had sex before
Like yeah
You just like want to get
Certain things out of the way
Before college
I don't know
I think it's a
Pretty
Not
It's like a source of shame
That like
Doesn't actually exist in the real world
It's just
Stupid
It's like some of the American Pie movie
The pact
We all have to get laid
Before college
Yeah
Where'd you go to college?
Nowhere
Fuck you
University?
Me too
I have to get laid
Before the college
That I'm not going to
Pardon me
Yeah
Yeah
That's why I didn't go
That's why I didn't go
I was like
I didn't lose it
I'm going to go to your scholarship
It was like birthright
All over again
Will have you been laid?
Oh that's probably why
Birthright rejected me too
No
Because you have to put out
On birthright
That's the whole entire point
To make more juice
It is
I think actually
The one thing that I did agree
With the guy on is
When he's like
We've already cheated
No that's not true
They have not cheated
Well they basically have
With the ass shots
And the
That's not cheating
It's like
It's bad behavior
It's bad for the relationship
Again, yeah, it's kind of like if she found out it's like why did you continue? Why did you like why'd you open the door?
Why'd you continue to open the door like you were looking at like you were so close?
Why would you even like you should not have answered the door if she likes this guy? She can't
Cheat with him like that will be an unfulfilling thing for both of them because this guy will feel shitty that he cheated on his girlfriend
She'll feel shitty that the guy doesn't really like her. He just wanted to like see her ass in person
And then the girlfriend in this relationship has no idea. She got cheated on. Yeah. What do you all think of this virginity packed?
That was actually a foolproof idea
She promised to have sex with him if he broke up with his girlfriend, right?
Oh, right cuz he oh, yeah, he's not obviously he's having he's having sex with his girlfriend. Yeah, it's just her
This seems one although I think we're not dressing this guy kind of seems like a douche
Yeah, it's a huge asshole. Yeah, he's like begging to cheat on it
That's a good point this guy is like begging this girl to help him cheat on his girlfriend
Yeah, cuz he doesn't want all the moral responsibility like I'm sorry. She's the one setting the ass photos
I'm not doing anything, but then he's looking at more photos, right?
Yeah, I sounds like also if like the sexual tension just like built slowly over two years
Maybe he was maybe he knew it. He was well. I just learned this term hip pocket. He hip pocketed her
He was like I hadn't heard the term, but I immediately understand it
Well, they talk about that like with agents in Hollywood. Yes, you pocket people
Hip pocket and pick pocket
Yeah, not quite the same, but definitely two terms that I'm but that is cool
If you hit pocket somebody then somebody else gonna pick up. Oh, you can pick pocket my hip pocket. Yeah, what?
this I
Just I can't get over like they're both so complicit in this like he wants to cheat and she's like
She's I don't think she's doing a very good thing because like it sounds like left to his own devices
He might not have wanted to cheat on his girlfriend and she's like
She's she's tempting him and he's responding to it
But then she's not liking his response to it
She's like no only if you're single and then she'll stop but then she does send him nude pictures
Yeah, it's she has to cut him off like he's not he's a he's gonna keep on asking
He's not gonna break up with his girlfriend true if she if she can see if she like is she's denying
She's like totally ignoring
If it is a red flag for her if it is a
discrepancy indicator red flags in a baby drop the mic actually it's expensive
But if she is choosing to if like like what I wonder what she wants out of this
Did she actually want like a relationship or does she actually just want like I just want to have sex with him
She wants some action. I don't know if she really wants a relationship. She didn't necessarily say that to me
It feels like she's dis pursuing him. Oh my god. You're on that. I was like, how did you do that?
That's right. Disport dis pursue according to the Emotion area is to actually seek out disappointment
Yes dis pursuing that's what she's doing. She's what she's going down a road that will ultimately end with her
Unsatisfied because the her first experience is gonna be marred by this guilty feeling of breaking up a relationship
So she should just wait and see if this guy breaks up with his lady and if he does then she can get it on
But I wouldn't they break up. She's got to remove herself from this situation. Cheating is bad. It's wrong
It's you can never do it and you can't get yourself involved with other people's relationships
No, I wouldn't say that you can never do it
I would say it's wrong
But it's exactly kind of like if you're going to act conscious to be conscious about it
If you're gonna say that you know what like I'm not in the relationship and I'm just gonna be okay with this
Like bat like he's he's especially it's like he was pursuing you or whatever
I on like I would feel I cry when I like if I hurt someone's feelings like just like by accident
So I couldn't do it
But if you want if you like can shut that part off for a second and you want to I
Don't think like like I don't think it's if you're not in the relationship
I would say like that's your choice again like I support you on your journey do it
But it doesn't sound like it doesn't I don't think in this situation that I think you're right that you should just wait
agreed
Sound like I'm totally condoning cheating
But like that's the you can't condone cheating because you're
Just because this girl wants to cheat you're like you're also hurting the girl in the relationship, right?
That's she's a victim. She's like a complete victim that gets no say in this at all
And the guy's wrong and this girl's wrong
They're both wrong to varying degrees and that could be debated, but it's all
Bad you should like and she's got all the power that she can remove herself from the situation
Yeah, I guess I'm just I feel like if it's like if a guy, let's say like actively pursues you like a hot like
Really really goes for it. It's kind of not necessarily like it's not your responsibility to save their relationship
It's kind of like all right homie like you should
You should break up with her but if you're not gonna like you should just do that
And if you're chilled it's like I don't if you don't even want if you don't necessarily want a relationship
Like I just want to have sex with you if you're gonna fuck up your relationship like
That's our new yeah
Yeah, but you don't ever want to be the vessel for somebody to fuck up their relationship. No
You won't have to get into the fight with the with the ex the same way the guy will but like it's
I don't know. It's still some sort of like aiding and abetting
A bad situation totally. I like it doesn't I don't think it behooves her in any way
Like if she's just trying to get ass she can find sexual attention with somebody that's single
Totally totally
I agree with that. I bet if she starts like hooking up with somebody else
This dude will like feel the fire hunt under his ass and be like, all right
Maybe I do need to get out of my relationship because I have feelings for this girl. Yeah, totally
So really quickly what's your bit of advice?
Don't do anything else anymore. Don't cut this guy off completely start hooking up that other friend
Who's boner that you felt in the car? He's single. Yeah, that guy seems like a good dude. Yeah, nobody's talking about boner, too
We should be thinking about the second boner
I think there's the reason he starts asking for the nude photos and he starts saying like please cheat on me is because she's like
Was because she stopped
Doing stuff and I think if she really stuck to her guns and did like cold turkey
He like
He'd come to her or she'd forget about him
One one thing would happen, but it's not worth it to hang in the limbo
Yeah, I would if I was like same as like if I were not too estranged like I was just giving advice to my friend
I would say no, don't exactly exactly. Don't don't don't do it. You can yeah, I would I've never seen this girl
But I can tell you she is a probably sister. Yes a strong beautiful
By the way, I would have cheated on my girlfriend. Yeah, no, obviously. Yeah, I mean
I'm giving advice because I've been in this situation so many times and it's it's blown up every time
It's never been good. Learn from Jake's mistakes. This girl's only 17
There's still time. Yeah, or fail and then you can learn from your own mistakes. Yeah
So maybe she should go for it. She should feel the rejection. She should feel the the relationship slipping away
She is going to be back. Okay, so it doesn't matter what we say. I'm telling her. I'm telling her to do the right thing
She will not that way at least we're morally absolved of any problems that should like why we also tell people to use condoms
Cool. Eden. Thank you for coming all the way here being on our show
Talking about your stuff talking about these these troubled youths that need our advice. We really appreciate it
I mean, thank you. I really only you know, because I know the troubled youths. I just like like buy my book eventually
Yeah, yeah
You guys are all in the free and clear
You saw stars with your dad and you're all
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Buy my book
The Emotionary is a book
It it will be the Emotionary will be a book you can go to the
Emotionary.com with a hyphen right now highly suggest you also buy the non hyphenated version
We'll talk about it after the show. I can hop you on namecheap.com. We can we can squat some domain names
I can url forward. I can mask it. It's gonna look seamless. You're not even you're not even realize that you already bought it
All right, I realized I actually just bought it. I'll sell it for $12
But in all seriously, I just want to say like sincerely like thank you for having me and I I love you guys
This is this is so much. You're great. You're really great come back anytime literally anytime next week the week after five episodes
Actually, we're gonna record in a few days if you want to just crash. Yeah pretty comfy couch
You can yeah lock the door so that she can't leave Marty
Get the pitchfork. Uh, are you on twitter facebook instagram snapchat ds snap?
I do not snap. I don't understand snapchat. I'm able to think so you feel old. I am on twitter
I'm yes, I'm on I'm on twitter and I'm on instagram sweet. Yeah
Just find it eat and share eat and share. Yeah. Oh your names. Nice. That's a good work early adopter solid
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And this closing one is from somebody named chad salad. How's that for a name chad salad?
That's good. We got kale and salad. It's healthy. Uh, all right. We'll be back next week. Thanks for listening everybody
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