If I Were You - 227: Pokemon Go (with Travis McElroy!)
Episode Date: August 1, 2016We are joined by fellow advice podcaster Travis McElroy to discuss pain, pleasure, and the difference between a canoe and a kayak.This episode is brought to you by MeUndies, BlueApron, and Squarespace...!See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.
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Yo, if I were you, I'd tell you what I do Yeah, I do me, but yo do you, I seize the
cheese Can I have some advice, please?
Jake and Amir gonna give it to you These two juice, hope you threw your blues
But if you're nasty, these dudes gonna put you on blast on a Monday
A Thursday, don't matter the time All that matters is you gonna get advisory
With a picture of Amir, the message is clear and nothing to fear
Just look in the mirror, they got your back twice
If you act nice, help with your life, give you advice
If I were you, the podcast shows
If I were you, if I were you If I were you, if I were you
Okay
That was really good
It's important to me to know right now
Hi, how's it going?
Hey
Is seize the cheese something you guys have said on the show before?
Or did they make that up for this song?
Wow
What do you think?
Oh, I wanted to believe that this guy just went, seize the cheese
It's great, I love that
It's that song there
Yeah, we said it in one of our first episodes ever
Really?
And it stuck
Was it, were you talking about literal cheese?
Or was that like, you gotta risk it for the biscuit?
That's really good
Thank you, that's Griffin
So I'm stealing that from him
You can secondarily steal it from my little brother
That's fine
I think it was an auto auction or a police seizure auction
Yeah
It was quite literally, it was about nacho cheese
So it was literal cheese, this is real life
But then like since then we've gotten like
Pizza Hut and like Domino's like using that phrase to sell their product
But also when people write in, they say like
This girl I want to ask her out, should I seize the cheese and go for it?
That's beautiful
I love that
Travis McElroy
Oh hello
Just gotta introduce you for anybody listening that happens to not know who you are
Which is growingly hard because as you told me less than 20 minutes ago
You host eight podcasts
That's correct
Seven on the regular, one once a year
And what's the biggest, most well-known podcast?
It's probably my brother and my brother and me
Or Adventures Zone at this point
I mean both have hit pretty big
My brother and my brother and me is the one I do
My older brother Justin and my little brother Griffin
Where we give advice
Which I don't know if you guys know about our advice podcast
Have you heard of this concept?
And we have no idea, we're really bad at it
And we have no idea what we're talking about
That sounds a lot, yeah
You can actually try it, it's really fun
We might give dumb advice
It's really great, it's so easy because you don't need to know shit
And you just start every episode saying
Hey don't do any of this, you can say whatever the hell you want
I listen to your podcast, you guys have like a disclaimer
Yeah, we should do that because otherwise we're not experts
And we're serious about our disclaimer
Like people have written him like, so I do what you guys said
And I'm like, no, no, why did you, no, no
We said terrible things, awful things
Things that'll send you to prison, don't do the things we said
And people think we're joking when we say don't do the things
So maybe that's one of the main differences between me and Jake
I think we try to actually give advice
Oh no, do I have to actually give advice on this show?
Oh, yeah
It might be that
Oh no
We thought it'd be fun because whenever we ask who we should have on our show
Everybody's always like, oh you should get the McElroy brothers from my brother and my brother and me
They have an advice show, me and Jake have an advice show
So we had the brilliant idea
Jake and I would go on your guys' show
You would come on our show
Both episodes, if we play our cards right
Yeah
Are out today
But you know, we let the face decide
You know, we just roll them bones and say what happened
I wish we were in control of it
But who knows
If you haven't listened to my brother and my brother and me
Great chance, if we did everything correct
That an episode with Jake and I is on right now
And where could people listen to that?
You can go to, let's see
The easiest place is probably mbmbam.com
Which will redirect you to maximumfun.org
Which is the network that hosts our show
Or you can go on iTunes, search my brother and my brother and me
And you'll find it
Or you can just like Google my brother and my brother and me
Awesome
Pull it up
So we believe in you
If you ever need some more advice podcasts in your life everybody
Please check that out
If your problem with Jake and me have been that there's not a third one of them
Yeah
Might I suggest my brother and my brother and me
There's three of us
Yeah, the problem is everyone says that we're two Jews
And I don't think, I'm not getting that vibe from you
Yeah, and I also don't think you can rhyme three
Let's see, three?
I can't think of a Jewish word
Three
Ani
Ani, which means me in Hebrew
Three of me?
It's kind of like three brothers
I'll give it to you
This is the new my brother and my brother and me
You guys, your studio is far nicer than ours
Oh really?
I get to get in the same room with you
Which almost never happens with me and my brothers
We've only, we've recorded 300 and
Well, when this comes out probably like 314, 315 episodes
Oh, I hope we're on Pi, we're episode Pi
Oh, that'd be so cool
As of recording this, we've only ever recorded in the same room
Not coming live shows like three times
Holy shit
Yeah, in all those episodes
One in a hundred?
Yeah, they're about
So Griffin is in Austin, Texas
And Justin is in Huntington, West Virginia
Which is where we grew up
Damn
And I'm trying, even when Griffin and I lived in Cincinnati together
Like in an apartment, we'd go into separate rooms to record
Because we had no idea that normal people recorded in the same room
And we're just like, okay, we're ready to record, bye
And we shut our bedroom doors and recorded our own computers
Interesting
Yeah, we didn't know any better
It wasn't until like 100 episodes later that people were like
How do you record in different cities?
And we're like, what do you mean?
And they're like, I don't do that
And it's like, there's nobody, nobody else?
I don't think we've ever recorded an episode of our show apart
Yeah, so much of what we do is like talking over each other
And if there was even a slight delay, Skype or otherwise
We've tried to do
I'm afraid the whole thing would fall apart
We've tried to do video before
And it was like the stupidest thing we've ever done
Because it was like, we spent the whole time just making faces at each other
And we're like, we can't do that
I can't see, I can't look at you
Gross
So weird
See, if they look at me, they can see me zone out
And try to think of jokes to come up with while they're talking
Yeah
I'm not listening to the shit they're saying
I'm trying to think of what I'm gonna say now
Yeah
Or doodling
While not listening
I'm usually napping a little bit
Or eating some cereal with it muted
You know what I mean?
Yeah, gotta
What's your go-to cereal?
You know, when I was young
It was Cinnamon Toast Crunch
But now, as an older man
I like a nice, like a crispix
Like something where it's just like
I feel like an adult cereal
Like some kind of plain cornflake
I wonder if they should do a single flake
A single flake
A large flake that I break up into pieces
You know, something really nice
I wonder if you could get a
Or if Cinnamon Toast Crunch is ever gonna be like
Why don't we do the Cinnamon Toast Crunch cereal
Without the cinnamon sugar
That'd probably make it healthy for adults
I think they have like a one-third
It's still kind of like
Do they have that where it's like
It's Cinnamon Toast Crunch, but like for adults
Is it like, it's like General Mills or whatever
Like they have a large line of
Cinnamon Toast Crunch isn't the cereal
That's like trying to reinvent itself
Yeah, but like, I feel like
They add the cinnamon sugar after
They can do like
Oh, you just want the Toast Crunch
That's right, I'd like Toasted Crunch cereal
I will say, I miss the days of my childhood
Where before everybody was like
Let's make it healthier, everyone
And you know what? French Toast Crunch
Fuck it, and like everything was like
It's just a bowl full of chocolate chips
The fucking Cookie Kris is just straight up cookies in a bowl
There was a cereal where they went
You know Lucky Charms, what if we removed the cereal part
And just had all marshmallows
No, was that real? Yeah
That cereal hurt my teeth even as a kid
Yeah, I ate it and I was like, this isn't right
I'm 8 and I hate this
Yeah, I'm 8 and even I'm like, this is too much
No, this is diabetes
Mom
But like, then everyone was like, now everything's whole wheat
And it's like, okay, I'm an adult now
I've got a kid on the way, I'm glad that exists
But I miss the kind of like
Thunderdome, No Holds Bar
Like what kind of sugar shit can we put in our cereal
We don't even like kids
Once the kid pops out
Then you'll be right back in the cereal aisle
With the sugary cereal
To the point where there was like, kicks
And everyone was like, this is all you got
If you want healthy cereal, enjoy your kicks
Looking for that was kid-tested mother approved
Yeah, it was like
They might have said this is the best we could do
Nobody really likes it
You're not gonna buy sugar, do this one then
Fuck, enjoy your kicks, idiot
They always came in a giant box
Yeah, to really punish you for buying it
You gotta work your way through this
I didn't say there was so much right now
Pops was my shit
You remember Waffle Crisp?
Waffle Crisp, like if you ate Waffle Crisp
You could
I was like 12 when I felt like I was having a stroke
Cause if you ate Waffle Crisp
You would smell the Waffle Crisp for days
Afterwards I felt like
Smelling your hands and like your face and like where
Why do I still, it's like up your nose
Everywhere, it was so pervasive
You could smell it
Did Golden Grams ever have marshmallows?
No, there was
Chocolate Golden Grams, was that it?
I feel like it was like
It was Golden Grams and Chocolate Grams
Mixed together in a thing
There was like S'more Cereal, Rice Krispy
Treat Cereal
Cereal is gonna be illegal soon
In the same way that like large sodas
Pretty soon, you think it's gonna be like
Why do we even make this stuff anymore
I can't market to kids, I have a feeling like
You can't have an animated tiger
Yelling at kids during Disney shows
To eat your sugar Cereal for breakfast
It's not okay
It's gonna be illegal I bet
Within the next, I don't know, 7000 years I bet
Somewhere around there
So we have emails
We have real emails from real people
Sorry to interrupt, you didn't mention who
Wrote the sign I don't think
Oh yeah, his name was Nick and he's from Australia
Nick was sitting at the edge of his seat
You were never ever gonna
You sons of bitches, I wrote you a song
Mate
Screaming mate over and over
Mate
Oh this is shit
I don't have no idea how to do accents
He said, I hope you enjoyed listening to me failing
To hide my Australian accent in a shitty rap
I never would have guessed
I also never would have guessed, I thought you did great
It's interesting how when you sing you don't have an accent
Yeah, it's really hard to like
I've had no idea what genre of music that was
By the way, it was like
It was like R&B rap, it was like
Genuine but Australian
Australian Genuine
That's a very
Specific theme that he hit
And I guarantee that there is somebody
That if you say nationality
An American pop star
That person exists in that country
And calls themselves that
There is someone in Australia who's like
I'm the Australian Genuine
I wanna meet like the Kenyan Kesha
What about Kenyan Lamar
So it's a Kenyan
Oh that's cool too
What about an Estonian M&M
So it's all about
Alliteration
Like we said
This is an advice podcast
It's called If I Were You
This is actually the only advice podcast
On the internet that Jake and I host
Fair enough, this is a good twist to the end there
We had to give it a disclaimer
We used to be the only advice guest hosted by brothers
And then the vlogbrothers started a podcast
And we were like hold on
No they're great, I love them very much
And they talk about our show on there all the time
We say the word, we'll take them out
I'll let you know if they ever receive their advice
Right now they do send see your advice
If they ever step into bad advice
Watch out, there'll be a turf war
And it's gonna be in Cincinnati, Austin, Texas
And Huntington West Virginia
We've got a lot of different fronts going
You guys have three states
So these are real emails from real people
They sent me a fake man's name
That will give this guy
Just to preserve his anonymity
Uh, Cletus Jenkins
Thank you
Do you actually know any Cletai going on?
I do, my dad actually does a radio show
With a guy named Cletus
I don't know that it's his given name
But he is a country music performer
Who is, he does like a comedy
Kind of weird owl thing for country music
Took on the name Cletus T. Judd
You hear Cletus a lot in like comedy
Unless, I don't know, I'm not from West Virginia
Or people actually named that
I don't know, I've never known anyone
That were like, I was born, a Cletus
My given name is Cletus
My parents looked upon me and said, ah, a Cletus
A wild Cletus appears
A Cletus Fetus
That was good
Should we keep going or is that?
No, that's fine, we can end it
We're not gonna do any better than that
Cletus Fetus Jenkins writes
Hey guys, day one listener
I've never been in a really bad situation
That was interesting to write
To write in about until now
I matched with a smoke piece
Dime show on Tinder
Everything was going normally
A hot lady
I thought it was like a gun or maybe
Some kind of drug pair or maybe
Which would be way more exciting Tinder match
It matched with a hot girl on Tinder
We talked about our jobs and hobbies
And we were getting along really well
After a couple of days, the conversation finally heated up
And we started talking about sex
And asking each other what we liked
Then it started getting weird
She started asking me strange things like
Are you strong? Have you ever been in a fight?
Then she sent me the message
If I gave you a blow job
Would you beat me up?
No, no, no, let me say that again
If I gave you a blow job
Would you let me beat you up?
That makes more sense
I kind of dodged the question
And I asked her why she wanted that
And she basically said
Being able to beat up a big strong guy
Would turn her on
For reference, I'm 6 feet and pretty muscular
And she's 5'3 and tiny and doesn't even seem very athletic
To be honest, when I think about her beating me up
It kind of turns me on
But I think that's just because she's hot
We've been having role playing conversation
Where she is telling me how she'd beat me up
And she's super into it
I really do like her
And of course a blow job sounds great
But I'm honestly scared that if I do this
Then she's going to get carried away
And seriously hurt me or something
I can't tell if this is just a kink
Or if she's legit insane
Should I do it?
Love Cletus Jenkins
Okay, one, Cletus, she is not legit insane
This is like
Legit insane is like a real thing
And this is not that
This is completely normal
This is a fetish, not a
Disorder
You know, the thing is
We jump way, way back to the very beginning of this question
Oh, back to the serial
Yeah, back to the serial
Can I talk about that again?
I met my wife
And have been with her
Since long before like
Tinder or anything was a thing
Pre-Tinder Pre-Apps
So like I met my wife in like 2008
I don't want to say 2009
We've been together for like
Going on seven, eight years now
Congrats, hey thanks
Pretty great
But even like I remember when like
AOL instant messenger started being a thing
Oh yeah
And like I was instantly wary
And didn't believe anybody who was like
I am a girl and I think you're nice
And I'd be like I followed for that before
In the conversation
You still think your wife is catfishing
I don't trust her, I don't trust her one bit
What she after
But here's the thing, I'm confused by
What the issue is here
And the idea of her beating you up
Kind of turns you on
God seems to win
Unless
She has like
Secret like Krav Maga training
Where she's gonna like
She's hustling you
She seems like
Not that brutal
But when you really get down to it
She's going to just destroy you
Like when you lose that pool for a game
You're like alright you want to start playing for money
Unless she's hustling you
He's going to be like alright hit me as hard as you can
And like stick his face out
And then she's going to knee him in the groin
Like pumped
She's going to briefly the shit out of him
Like you know water in a bowl
He goes flying backwards through a brick wall
Roundhouse kick to the temple and he's instantly dead
You said it was okay
You promised me it was fine
It does seem like that's his big fear
Like he's down to wrestle a little bit
But he's like I don't want this to get out of hand
But the thing is
This isn't the first time anyone's dealt with this problem
That's why safe wards exist
Oh yeah yeah yeah
Is that you say like you know the safe word is
Nilla wafer or whatever
And then like she works it out
Nilla wafer, Nilla wafer
She's walking towards him
Nilla wafer, Nilla wafer
She starts putting on just like gloves coated
In like broken glass and you're like
Nilla wafer, Nilla wafer, wafer
Nilla wafer, wafer
And then you're dead
But I think the problem is is like
This is not a sustainable fetish
That this is like you're not going to form a
Relationship based on her giving you a blow job
And then beating you up every time
Like cause like that happens once
But the next time she's like hey do you want a blow job
And you're like ahhh
And then you start like having a Pavlovian response
Where you start fearing blow jobs
Because you know what happens after the blows
From blows to blows that's what they call it
But like you're not going to end up in like
A blow job with someone who in order to be
Sexually engaged with you has to
Beat you up
Yeah and also for her to like
It sounds like they've never done anything sexual
Before so don't want to start there
Sounds like we haven't even met yet
Right so like it should be like we met
We had sex and we've been like seeing each other
For a couple weeks and then she proposed this deal
I feel like the question he has to ask is like
Does she really need to
Like when I play with my little cousins
And I'm high five way up high
Way down low and they like
And I do your too slow and they like catch me or whatever
And I'm like oh you got me
Like I could actually I'm pretty fast
I don't know what you guys have heard
But he couldn't get away from her
That was that one time where it looked like he legit clipped
No fucking chance
No no no go to the replay
And then when you had his nose that one time
And he didn't buy it it seems like
He knew that you didn't really have his nose
Then there was that time when he had my nose
And I acted
Yeah but I was enacting entirely
I legit looked in the mirror just really quick
Just to make sure that he didn't have
It's still
Alright it's your fucking thumb bro
I never fell for it for a second
It's not like if this is a one off deal
I'd do it you know
Because like I thought you were going to say
That she wanted you to like beat up her husband
Or something like how big and strong are you
Could you come beat up my husband
But just like this sounds like
She's looking for kind of a one off experience
And if you're like considering it
Maybe you're down for the same thing
Would you be down would you be down to get beat up
You know no
5 foot 3 is like not like a tiny 5 year old
That's like a fully grown adult human
I just feel like there are a lot more questions to ask
Like I would be
Interested in like wrestling
Or something and I think somebody pinned me
But if the fetish is
Legit she wants to like kick and punch
Until I'm in a lot of pain
Then I think no I can get a blowjob
Another place
Blowjobs are like you know they're rare
But they're not yeah but this girl is really hot
Yeah I think it's
Still I feel confident that I
Could get a blowjob from an attractive person
You know I'm going to go with I would not do it
But to be fair
Cleetus does say like the idea of it
Kind of like he's into it too
So like hey
Like don't judge her if you're like
No I'm also kind of into the idea
Oh man I feared that I like
I'd snap it to like a self defense mode
And it's like that's when it becomes like a bad situation
Like I'd be like Jason Bourne
Oh I was
Like they'd slap me and then I would slap her back
And she's like whoa I'm like whoa sorry I don't know what happened
The blood just came in my eyes
I saw red I couldn't help it
Holy shit I have Navy SEAL training
Like I've been tickled before and when like
When I'm wriggling to get away I've like hit someone
And then I was like oh my god I'm so sorry
It was like such a fun silly moment
I took a stage combat class in college
And like we were practicing like you know the naps
And my teacher came by
And like that word of like
Warning grab my like wrist
And held my fist up and said
Completely seriously I went
Ever went to look at this
Travis has fists of iron
If he were to ever accidentally punch someone
He would kill them
I was like what
Like one I don't
Like when I was 21 and this happened
But now at like you know 32
I'm like I wouldn't
I've never been in a series fight in my life
I don't even know how to really punch that good
I guarantee I would not one shot
Kill someone with my punch
But at 21 I was like I have to be careful
I bet you can fuck it
Maybe not kill but I bet you can like concuss a cat with those
Like you have very thick hands
I could concuss a cat
I killed cats
You boxed a cat
Yeah I killed a cat once too by accident
I didn't feed it for a week
By accident though
I was cat sitting
That is true like here's the thing man
Like human body is not nearly as like
Resilient as we think it is
Especially depending on how old Cletus is
If this girl like punches him
Wrong in the nose he could
Die
Like that's a very real possibility
Like if she punches you in the temple
Too hard you could die
I don't know that
This is worth it
I like what you said about a safe word
I feel like having a safe word is a good start
The problem is if she pays up front
With a blow job and then like you get hit
Once and you're like Mila Waver and she's like
What the fuck
Like you got off and I really did
I punched you one
Like you would have to say you got at least six punches
And then if I were to institute the safe word
You got a lot to work out before you engage in this
You guys have to sign a contract
She also said that they did role playing
Over text right
So maybe that's a good indicator of like
How serious she was
And then I stab you
No no no
If it's like hits to my back or shoulder
I can handle a lot
If it's like she wants me to expose my face
While she punches and slaps and kicks my balls
I can't take that
Balls and face are off limits
I think that's a fair rule
Same as like growing up fighting with brothers
Balls no face
I never punched in the face of a boss
Like that was always like whoops I'm sorry
We're done fight's done
By the time we got the griffin we would just like pick him up
Cause Joss and I fought like crazy
What's the age difference between you guys
Joss and I are exactly three years apart
We were the same birthday three years apart
Same birthday? Same birthday November 8th
Yes and then griffin is
About three and a half years younger than me
Oh so it's three three three
That's like you and your brothers isn't it
Yeah we're four four four
How's that it's nice right
Yeah I feel like
I only knew for three years
I wasn't able to fully appreciate it
An interesting thing about your birthday 11-8
Is that it's kind of my birthday which is 118
Okay we'll kill it
So we got another email here
Another guy's name
Let's go with Orion Jones
That's great thank you
That's a really that's a strong name
He's a superhero detective
Did you just make that up? Yeah I did
That's really good thank you
Orion Jones
Attorney at Law writes
He's Indian like from India
Not the kind that knows how to canoe
Obviously
Cool cool cool
Orion come on
Racist at the end that was on your side
Orion he was just saying
If it helps color the story
I can color the story
He also he applied that all Native Americans
Know it should know how to canoe
I also did not need to know the ethnicity
Of the person who tipped a canoe over to be like
Oh he's Indian of course
If there's one thing I know about India
It's their tipping canoe ability
Yeah tip a canoe
I'm Tyler too Nice dude
Isn't he from West Virginia? No
Has any president ever been from West Virginia?
What's from West Virginia what is it? Me
Cole
Who's the biggest name from West Virginia
Oh man
Kevin Pitznoggle Is it Kevin Pitznoggle
I don't know who that is
West Virginia Mountaineer
The Mountaineer is at Marshall University
Yeah Randy Moss
Is from Huntington Chad Pittington
He went to Marshall
I don't know if he's from Huntington
Soupi Sales is from Huntington
Soupi Sales
Brad Doriff
Is from Huntington
You're more famous than that
No no no
You seen Dune?
Oh he's in that
You're more famous than that guy
We don't have a ton
You guys could be in the Wikipedia page
I think we are maybe one of the
We're in the top 100
Most famous people ever The Huntington 100 they call it
Yeah that's amazing
It's you Randy Moss your two brothers
They're still filling out the rest
They're wives
We all do podcasts with them
Ever been on a trip where you didn't want to invite somebody?
You know I am
I am at times
overly inclusive
Too much so
Yeah if I'm going to throw a thing
When we had our wedding
We can fit 100
At most 120
And I was like I want to invite 150 people
And I did and thank God
I invited most people knowing they couldn't come
So we ended up getting down to the 100
Number after RSVPs were in
But it was driving me crazy
To like
But this one guy that I was friends with
When we were nine he'd be so hurt if I didn't invite him
I was like he doesn't care you don't know
What are you arguing about? I was like no this is important
And
Here's the thing
Bachelor party that's an even bit small
Bachelor party is a good bet
But the thing is it's been a year
They said it was in winter
It's been at least six seven months
I don't think you need to tell them
You just don't say anything
You just go and they're like oh I didn't even fit
With social media he'll find out
Especially if he's part of the crew
But here's the thing the question is
Is it better to find out afterwards
And let him assume
Things or just straight up tell him
To his face we don't want you to be there
One thing is definitely harder
There's a bit of a
I'm not saying it's better
But there's a bit of like a social
Understanding of like
You going like oh like we didn't even think
Because we know you're not super interested in canoeing
Because remember I didn't
You just tip the canoe
And think about it and obviously you're lying
And they know you're lying and you know they know you're lying
I think that would work if they did
Like just a millennial
Language that we all speak
Which is what?
Just like sort of a passive apology
Like excuse after the fact
Or I'm going to try to come by
Or yeah try to make it
It feels like everybody
My parents and my grandparents' generation
Was like very blunt and told you how it was
Aziz Ansari has a great bit about that
Kind of special modern love
What kind of Indian is he?
I think he's the kind that doesn't know how to paddle a canoe
He's the typical canoe kind
But where he talks about
Like back in the day like if you made plans with someone
And you went like
You were away from your phone
So either they showed up or you assumed they were dead
And nowadays it's like right up until
30 seconds before they're supposed to be there
They could text you and be like can't make it
And you're like I'm standing here
And you're constantly scrolling through your phone
I'm guilty of this too of going through
Anybody doing anything as I've made
Plans with someone that I want to cancel
Even like the way like when I say
I can't do some things like my friend's like
Hey do you want to come over for dinner?
I'll go maybe not which means no but like
Ask me tomorrow on the day
Maybe technically means I could come
But I'm saying maybe not instead of no
It just feels rude when he's like
You want to get dinner and I say no
I think that if you're planning
You have to have a reason that you can't
I'm looking forward to having a kid
Kids can be the best excuse to get me out of shit now
I'm already using it with my wife pregnant
Where like we get to a party where they're there for an hour
And it's time to leave them like she's really pregnant
I will point you to start texting the kid
Like hey I'm not gonna make the baseball game
I'm gonna be honest with you
I'm gonna try to come through
I'll keep you posted
There's a marathon of Star Wars movies that can't make it
I think that
How far out in advance do they say they were planning this?
Planning to attempt the trip again this summer
If you're far enough
Out I think you say hey we're doing this thing
Last time you ruined it
You tipped the canoe dude
But we want you to go because we like you
But we need you to go take some canoe lessons
And not fuck it up again
By the way it's summer now
Like there was a real risk when they fell in the ice cold water
If you fall into the summery water that's kind of fine
Go kayaking instead
It's way harder to tip a kayak
Oh yeah I don't even know the difference
So canoe as I understand
Sits lower in the water
And is straighter sides
And the kayak kind of like you get in
And it's kind of curved up
And it's a lot easier like it sits higher in the water
It's easier to maneuver
I've gone kayaking before I've only canoed once in my life
And a kayak like you roll up
And they're just like here's your kayak
Here's your paddle, here's your vest, don't die
And it's like it's really easy
Not to fuck up, it's exhausting
It's really hard
Of course the triceps
Like if you're not prepared you will die
So our advice is
Invite your friend but switch it from a canoe
To a kayak
And maybe tell them to practice some
Go to the gym, do some rowing exercises
It's crew canoe or kayaking
I think it's canoeing
That's why they call it the crew
I forgot they called it that
But here's the thing, your friend fucked up this canoe trip last time
I think you're well within your eyes like
Hey we're going on this thing
I want you to know ahead of time
Yeah last time we could have died because of you
So this time we're going to do the thing
Where we don't invite you
And then when we come back
If you want to go to an arcade or whatever you're good at
We'll go do that
If this guy really really is adamant
Like no I want to come on the canoe trip
Then I think if you get him a boat they can't tip over
You get a little
Give him a really ambiguous thing
Like a swan and he's got to run his feet
To paddle it
A donut float
You tie him to the back
You tie it to the back of the kayak
He's wearing a donut floaty
Like that cartoon duck
You could chill, you could drink a beer, you do your thing
Float down the lazy river
I will say a similar thing happened to me
My older brother and some of his friends
One of whom
His family had like a white water rafting business
About an hour north of Huntington
They were like hey we're going white water rafting
So I went with him, I think I was like 19 at the time
And there were lots of instructions
One of which was like if we hit rapids
Don't stop paddling
Unless we tell you to
And we hit a big rapid
And it like bounces up almost like
At a 90 degree angle to the water
And so I immediately like ducked down in the boat
I was like fuck this
And so when I came back up like
There were eight of us in the boat originally
When we landed there were three of us left in the boat
And the other five were just like floating around
And the three cowards were the ones that survived
You're holding on instead of paddling
And just after that my brother would be like
Hey you're not going white water rafting
With us anymore, you are terrible at it
I would be like I totally get that
I hate it every second
It's possible your friend hated it
It's like a prisoner's dilemma
You can either hold the boat and survive
Or paddle and try to fall out
But try saving it
I'm always going to duck down in the boat
I'm the most important everywhere I go
If you land and you're in the boat
You should immediately just jump out
If the video tipped over I'd let you guys go
I wouldn't even try to help you
You hold on and you survive
And then you fall out and you're like you bastard
You didn't paddle
I was the whole time
I battled extra hard
That's why I stayed on
Oh shame shame
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To the ones that are in your show?
So, they're longer
I am the one
Who goes through the questions from my brother
Is it email too?
Yeah, and we get a lot at this point
And the tricky thing is we don't want to give
Real advice
And so many people ask for real advice
And it's like, that's not funny
You're just sad
Yeah, sometimes we get sad
We pride ourselves on we've built a very strong
Community and a relationship with our listeners
And so sometimes people
Really need help and really want us to help
And it's like, yeah, we can't
Not only are we not prepared to
Like, that's not what the show
And it always feels a little bit like got wrenching
That's like, I really want to help you
And then what percentage of questions
Do you get out of relationship questions?
92
That's really what people have the most problems
It's the most confusing thing
Because everything else is about you
How do I deal with somebody else
That's the confusing part
The thing that we get relationship
Best friends that roommate questions
And office
Worker or my boss is terrible
Those three types of questions make up
About 95%
And then there's some silly fun ones
We did one week just like
I think it was like all roommate questions
Because we were like, after that week
Please don't ask us any more
Remake questions for a year
That didn't go well
That's the thing is we get
I would say at this point about 400 questions a week
Holy shit
And we do maybe four
In the list and we get to four
It takes about three hours
To go through all of them once a week
And then to pick the ones that I'm like
I think this will be okay
And short, that's the thing
We're usually looking for two or three sentences
Two or three sentences
People always try to fill in all these details
And it's like, that's too specific
And that's not funny
Do you edit?
I used to
When we first started out
This is a really good question
But it's like five paragraphs long
We get so many questions now that I don't have to
And we've also said on the show
Keep them short, if you want them on the show
We're looking for two to three sentences
And then someone will send an eight paragraph thing
I told you
I warned you about this
So now I just buzz past those
So these are good
To answer your question, these questions are good
I was just looking for validation
You guys are great, I'm having a great time
I feel like the influx of Pokemon Go questions
Will start soon
We're already getting those on all my other shows
Are all three of you playing?
I think so, I definitely am
I'm not obsessively yet
But it's a really good time killer when you're like
Especially in LA, sometimes you gotta park
A half a mile away from the place
You're actually trying to get to
You might as well kill some people
No, you catch them, you gotta catch them all
It's not like you gotta murder them all
You raise them, like your babies
Oh really? Once you have them, you do things to them?
Yeah, you don't do things to them
It's not weird
Kill them or have sex with them
I don't want to fuck a little Charizard
Well, you can do that too, but you gotta pay extra for that
Expansion
So you're walking around, you're collecting the things
Yeah, you're collecting them and then there's like gyms
Oh yeah, what's a gym?
So basically a gym is like a really
Usually it's someplace that's like super popular
In the real world
Yeah, exactly, and then you would go
Somebody is like
Basically, they have established
That they own the gym and you have to
Feed their Pokemon to take control of the gym
Oh, and you can only do that if you have
All of the best Pokemon
Yeah, so you gotta raise your Pokemon to make them stronger
So you can compete in the gyms
How do you make Pokemon stronger?
Oh god, it's so dorky
If you spent some money on the food packs
Basically, every time you catch a Pokemon
You gain Stardust and Pokemon Candy
Of that specific type
And then you can feed them some Candy
And I guess Sprinkle Stardust on them
Candy makes you go stronger
Listen, I know it's dumb
This is like the fifth time in two days
That I've had to explain it
And you get halfway through the first sense
For like, listen, I know
It sounds like it's how I felt
Every time I've ever explained
Like a fantasy novel I love a lot
Or I'm like, so there are these elves
Is it any dumber than like somebody
When I hear people talking about Game of Thrones
Basketball
Oh yeah, we're running
We tried to shoot the hoop
I love sports very much
But if you've ever tried to explain sports to someone
Who's not at all like football, is it great?
I love football, but like when you try to explain
Like why they did the play and what the action was
And you watch someone just go
And just like shut off, you're like
Okay, he threw it, he caught it, it was good
And it's like, okay, great, thank you so much
I got that
That's how I feel explaining Pokemon Go to people
It's like my wife has never been
A video game player
She used to play WoW, and she's played like
D&D and everything, but she just doesn't
Play video games, but she loves
Watching me play them
Until I try to explain what I'm doing to her
And she's like, I don't care, she watches Skyrim
And she's like, oh yeah, those are
I also prefer watching people
That don't play
Especially those ones where it's really immersive
She knows Skyrim as
The game where I'm the lizard person with the wife
In a house, and she's like
How's your wife doing? She doesn't exist when I'm not
There, and she's like, she probably misses you
And I'm like, okay honey
So I'll make a trip to go visit my wife
In my house, in Whitehaven
So that's fun
And you don't really get that in Pokemon Go
There's nothing in Pokemon Go that makes
It cool, like I get
That, you can like the graphics
The coolest thing is like pointing your camera
At a thing and seeing like a PG
Sitting on your desk, like it's
A good evolution of video games
No questions
One, can you win?
You can be the very best, like no one
Ever was
But to catch them is your real task
And to train them is your cause
This is a Steve Jobs
It is, it is a fact to the cartoon
To train them is your cause
Yeah
There are no better causes to fight for
In the world right now, it's a thing, you're wrong
No, it's dumb
That's the thing, it's dumb, just like Pokemon was dumb
All of them have been dumb
And anybody sitting there listening going, hold on
No, it's dumb, and that's okay
It's okay for things to be dumb
And fun, and they are
Like mobile gaming is supposed to be, it's just dumb
So it's a thing you do to like
Kill time between and to like get out of the house
And go do a thing, and anyone who sits there
And is like, let me tell you how cool it is
It's like, no, no, no, you are wrong
It's not stupid
I love it very much, and it's very dumb
And so there's like all these like reporters
Reporters are killing me right now because
Like legit media
Like wants to talk about how stupid Pokemon is
I'm just going, yeah
Yeah, like, you're absolutely right
I don't know, like, you ever play Pong, man?
Pong is dumb, are you kidding me?
Like that shit was dumb, but like it's fun
Most games are kind of dumb, just enjoyable
It's dumb, it's fun
It's not like breaking news like, oh this game is an intelligent
Yeah, that's fine, man
It's not a math test
The second question is, this game out of left field for me
If you're a gamer, did you know that this was coming for a while?
Well, I highly anticipated it
They've been talking about it for a long time
So long in fact that I think people kind of
Like lost interest in it
Because this is like years
As far as I know that this has been in development
And talked about, and then it was just like
It's done now, here, and it was like
Oh, cool, great
They weren't like, it's coming Tuesday
Well, I think they're doing like a slow release of things
Like it's still not available in Asia
As far as I know, oh wow
It might be by the time that this comes out
But like a time recording, I don't believe it is
I wonder if it'll help tourism
Like if there was a Pokemon that's only in Spain
Wouldn't a bunch of doofs want to go there?
I mean, they do do that specifically
Where it's like, if you get, so for example
Like water type, you only find
Around water sources in real life
And so, and it's like, if you want
Specific type of Pokemon, you gotta go
In fact, there have been people jokingly asking about
Like on Twitter like, hey, they should put rare
Pokemon at polling places in November
Oh wow
Yeah, dog, they should, that's an excellent point
I can already see the South Park episode
About this, where they're like, it's a factory
Of people working, but they're actually just playing
Pokemon Go, so they don't have to pay them anything
Yeah, it's, Lizzy, it's dorky, I get it
And you know what? It's trending towards like
A dystopian thing, very much, and you know
It's so easy to make fun of, like
Because it's like
Basically the parody's right itself
Of somebody like walking to a pit while they're looking
I get that, but it's just
That's great, let me write that down
We live in a world, we live in a culture
In a society right now, I can't speak for other
Like countries, but like
Where it's so easy to make fun of things that are fun
But dumb, where it's like, yeah man
Like, I know, like
It's fun, it's like people who hate on like
My little pony or that kind of thing like
Yeah, this doesn't affect your life whatsoever
You're just being snarky and making fun of
Something someone enjoys
That's it, it's okay for people
To like things without them
Being like Rembrandts and like
The Beatles, like it's okay
Did they say that about like trains in the 50s?
Like, look at this miniature train
What a waste of time
It's all been that shit where it's like
Monopoly, it'll never catch on
It's like, it's fine man, that's cool
Computer, this is dumb, who's ever heard of role playing games?
And it's like, I did
Yeah, there's just all this shit where it's just like
Yeah, and you know what?
It's fine, me playing Pokemon Go
Doesn't affect your life at all
Unless you bump into someone because it's straight
Well, on that they should punch me in the nose
I bet data rates are gonna go up too
Just like walking around
It kills your battery, like it destroys your battery
That's why you have
Nine Mophies
I've got my Mophie plugged in right now so I can get it charged back
So I can on my walk back to my car
I'm pretty excited
You have an external battery pack
Two Mophies, a computer
And you brought an iMac just to charge your other Mophies
And I also have my gas generator
Sitting outside of the building
So I'm all set
Alright, do you want to be able to answer
One last question before you get the heck out of here?
Sure
Oh, I'm not going anywhere
Oh, I'm not leaving at all
I live here now, it's very nice
Yeah, I mean you're in LA, so you might as well
Use our studio whenever the heck you want
Well, I have you on record saying that
You all heard it, that's legally binding
I always say that because I know you're moving out of Los Angeles
That's fair
I'm moving back to Cincinnati
With the baby on the way, like my family
Is about two hours from Cincinnati
And Teresa's family is about an hour
Away from Cincinnati, and we were only ever planning
To stay in LA for like two years
To feel it out and be like, hey
And I podcast full time
So I can do it from anywhere
It's fucking, what a future
You can't live anywhere you want
Does your wife, is her job mobile too?
She doesn't, like we both just do podcasts
And you know, our job
Is being on the internet
It's super fun, I highly recommend it
Everyone should do it
We could live anywhere we want
You choose to live in this fucking hell hole
That hasn't seen water in ten years
Jesus
It's becoming the planet Arrakis
From the movie and book, dude
See, not a drop of rain ever falls on Arrakis
Let me tell you guys a little bit about dude
As long as you're talking about dorky shit
So there's this guy, Paula Tray
We really have to
You told him you could live in the studio
I didn't mean it
I'll come back every episode and tell you a little bit about dude
This door is locked, you can't get out
Two sentences of dude in every episode
Alright, there's a question
It's actually from a middle aged man
Okay
The other two could have been too
I need to give you a name
I named that specifically middle aged
I have a racist middle aged man
Going on a canoe trip
Yes, friend
I secretly hate my Indian friend
Let's go
with Charizard
Charizard
I need a good last name
No, Eli Charizard
Charizard was the ultimate last name
He's Jewish, I like that
Moved in with my girlfriend
And our once glorious sex life
Has dwindled into a luxury so rare
That every blue moon it happens
I feel like a 14th century
Noble woman enjoying chocolate
Which for all she knows
You know, a very relatable
analogy
We all got the not having sex one
Yeah, like you didn't need this
And then like let me explain to you
What not having sex is like
It's almost more so if he was like not giving himself chocolate
Then we would need the reference
14th century noble woman enjoying chocolate
Which for all she knows may or may not
Be the last chocolate ever shipped in
From the new world for another decade
How could I stop from being a
Classic sitcom middle aged man
Condemned to a sexless marriage
Because I'm so, so tired
Of sneaking out of bed when she falls asleep
To masturbate to porn on my iPhone
In the cold bathroom
It's getting sad
And there are big scary
Spiders in there
P.S. when sex happens it's great
She comes or at least pretends to every time
I agree
There's a very real answer to that
Oh really? Yeah
The fact of the matter is chances are
If you step back and you take a look
From the situation from the outside
You are taking your girlfriend
Or significant other for granted
Because you live together now and you see each other
When you didn't used to live together
It was probably like when you were going to go on a date
You cleaned yourself up and you made plans
To do things and you went out and you met
Somewhere nice and you really like earned it
And you were very romantic
Now you live together
And you're sitting on the couch watching Netflix
And you're like we'll probably have sex tonight
Well you used to work for it
And you both did
I'm not saying you have to work to earn sex from anybody
But you used to make an occasion out of it
And it was a thing where you go on a date
And you established an air of romance
Whereas now you're just assuming sex happens
Because you're in a relationship
And that's not sexy, there's nothing romantic about that at all
Would you say he has to lower or raise his sex
limitations?
I think what you should focus on is
Especially, I'm sorry to call you out
But like if you're sneaking off to the bathroom to masturbate
It sounds like you're pretty focused on your own needs
And your own wants
And I would say that if you're significant other
Their interest in sex is decreased
It's probably because you're not making them feel sexy
You're not making them feel wanted
So that's much better
Are you sure you don't want to host a legit advice giving podcast?
Yeah that was really good
I couldn't even add anything to that
I've done 314 episodes
Every so often I learn a little bit
About relationships
I was going to say he should not even go to the bathroom anymore
He should just fucking do it in bed
Check it out
But I think at the end of the day
You should focus on
Making her happy
And giving her whatever it is that you're not doing
And you know what
I'm not saying it's all your fault
I think it might be both of you
But the only person who has actions you can control are your own
And also tell her
Like if you're sneaking off to the bathroom
You would be amazed how much
Your life will benefit just by saying
Like hey I want you to know
What I'm thinking and feeling right now
And in this moment I feel like we've kind of lost a little bit of the spark
And I don't want it to be like that
I want to find it again
And we should do whatever we need to do that
And it's important to me because sitting on it
And knowing you feel that way
And not telling your partner
Is a really great way to ruin your relationship
Because you know it and you know how you feel
You're writing into an advice podcast
You shouldn't be talking to us about it
You should be talking to her about it
You have to drop the mic
I'll just take it and walk around the room
I feel like I should be
Maybe you can lower it onto the couch
Because that's a mic drop
That's the right answer
Really when it comes down
Because I will say that even though we do bad
Joking advice on podcasts
The number one answer to any
Interpersonal question is always like
Have you told them?
Because if not
That's step one all the time
You know you asked about millennials
And it's like is this the thing
The indirect communication where you just kind of want people to read your mind
And know how you feel so you don't have to ask
That's dangerous especially in relationships
I think in relationships everybody is kind of invested
In each other
It's one thing to be like I'm going to tell my friend what I think
Because there's a bit of a risk to be like
Well fuck off
What somebody you live with is
Way less likely to be like fuck off
Especially if you use i-statements
And you say like I feel this way
I feel like I'm not doing enough
I feel like you are making me
You have to be very careful
Because if you say like I feel like you're not interested in sex anymore
That's an i-statement
You statement
But if you say I feel like I'm not doing enough
Romantically what can I do for you
Do you want to go out on date this week
Do you want to go away for a romantic weekend
Also at the same time
There is a difference between
Like when you first start dating
And you're very excited just to see each other
And then you live together
I'm not saying you have to lose the passion
But like it does happen
Is it inevitable?
You can't keep up the same rate of sex
But I also think
His sounds like it's slowed to a rate
That he's really not okay with
I think that's what it comes down to
It can slow to a rate where everyone's comfortable
This like we do it once or twice a week
And that's fine with everybody
But if it slows to a point where one person
In their relationship is unhappy
Like say it
Have you said it
Have you said it
Or have you emailed it
And sent it
Otherwise you're just sitting there quietly like stewing about
And like I want her to spontaneously
Want to have sex with me without me having to say something
No no no
I mean going on your point
With somebody
The sex in a relationship is
Maybe that's not necessarily exciting anymore
But there are a lot of exciting things that happen
When you move in with somebody
So explore that
And I think that is going to inject romance
Into your life
And then that might turn into sex
Have we so often just focus on her
Don't expect her to do anything to you
And also try draping a towel
Over the corner of the tub
And placing your phone on the toilet seat
To each other
And some like sticky traps to kill the spiders
And you know what
Maybe try beating each other off
That works
Have you tried fucking in a canoe
You gotta be careful you gotta go front to back
Not side to side
I recommend a kayak and won't tip over
It's a lot harder to tip over
Don't make promises
That's what we get sued on this episode
What happened to you guys
We fucked a kayak over
Congrats I guess
Good for you
The water was called
Travis
Thank you for having me
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Between the three Macroys we do something like
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Podcasts
Suddenly I feel lazy maybe Jake and I should start more podcast
You should man it's great
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We also have some weird
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Do you have the record for most podcasts hosted right now?
I don't know, I can't imagine that it is
I don't think so because for a long time
My wife's rule was I could only have as many podcasts
As Paul F. Tompkins has
At his highest point
I think I've surpassed that
But I'm not sure, it's possible that
I know Scott Ockerman's on a bunch
On a bunch but hosting this is true
I don't know
We'll have somebody look into that for you
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Peace
It's funny that I can't say that
That I'll be nice
But hopefully you'll be like
The pension you won't give a fuck
Because otherwise
You might kill yourself
Inside of a star box
If I were you
If I were you
At our show
If I were you
If I were you
At our show
Hey, yes again
If you are still listening
We should mention that there are still tickets
Available to our show tomorrow
August 2nd
Tuesday August 2nd
At the O2 Shepherds Bush Theatre
In London, England
That's right, we do not come to London very often
And I believe the last time we were here
Was two years ago
Well shit, if you haven't seen our show
Then you should come see it
And if you have seen it, then you should come see it again
It's going to be a wild party
You guys ought to come, hope to see you there
TOTA!