If I Were You - 33: Tinder Talk
Episode Date: October 31, 2013In this episode Amir finally signs up for Tinder, then we discuss people's Tinder related dilemmas. Tinder.This BONUS Thursday episode is made possible thanks to LegalZoom: Online legal services, made... easy! Check out LegalZoom.com and use either coupon code "Jake" or "Amir" for a discount.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.
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Here's my problem, no help me maybe
Yes! Yes! Absolutely yes! Best song ever?
Call me maybe or that. The cover is actually better than the original
Cause this one's about me and every song about me is better than the song that's not about me
You're so vain. Yo, I probably think that song is about me
I probably know that song's about me. That's awesome though
That is dope, that's great
I'm into covers, that's my new thing I think
Yeah, that's so good
Anyway, that was by 2Juliettes, this comedy improv group
Oh wow
In Toronto
Cool
In Toronto
So hey, this is if I were you
T-Town Drake, what up?
Hey, what up? What?
T-Town Drake, that's where Drake's from
I thought it was the T-Dot
Uh, oh maybe sure
Anyway, this is if I were you, the only advice podcast on the internet, hosted by us
I'm Amir
And I'm Jake
And this is a special episode, or what, okay
Cause we're getting drunk doing it
Well, that doesn't make it very special
This is another special episode
Every special episode is for me
Every episode is a special one
The last 15 were special, but for only me, Jake didn't even know it was special
We had a special episode the other day at 9am, unfortunately
There was whiskey on your breath, whiskey and oatmeal, and I didn't really appreciate it
You were high and gone
Yeah, this is another one of those Saturday night pre-gaming drinking episodes
Is pre-gaming a nerdy thing to say here in Toronto?
I don't know, I think the nerdy thing is that we're pre-gaming by recording a podcast
And two, I'm going to bite the bullet and download Tinder and do it on this podcast
This is after literally no convincing
I haven't brought it up once since the last time we talked about it on the podcast
You know what it was? It was my friend Ethan who emailed me
He's like, you should just do it because you're leaving New York
And it's like a fun thing to do
And I'm like, you know what?
Jake's been pushing me for nine months
But this one email is the straw that broke the camel's back
I think the real thing that convinced you is when we said we would do it on the podcast
And it was like, ooh, content, yay, content for my podcast
I don't care about pussy
You know what it is, it is that
But it's also like, this podcast is like the wall that I have to build to like
Oh yeah, I downloaded it but like, I did it as a joke for a show
Anyway, I still use it
You want on the date?
Yeah, well I did it to try to meet somebody and you're sort of a being an asshole
No, you should listen to the episode
Oh man, I'm really excited though
I have been begging to join Tinder for, I don't know, since I did
Yeah
But even when you had a girlfriend
Yeah, that was actually a pretty dick move of you
You were begging her actually
I was instrumental in the breakup
Uh, so we thought it would be fun to do it
From soup to nuts, starting on the show, I haven't even downloaded it yet
I'm gonna do that right now
Yeah
Uh, can you actually, why don't you download it while I at least explain to
Cause like, I feel like there's like 10 to 20% of people who don't know
Still what Tinder is and we talk about it so much
Yeah, it's so rare though that you'd be listening to this podcast and still not know what Tinder is
So as Jake downloads it, I'm gonna just try to briefly explain it
So as a guy
A lot of missed texts and phone calls from my
All right
From your parents
All right, give me the phone
Well, what about you
And Tinder's already downloaded and you have 30 matches actually
Oh man, all your texts are between a seamless delivery guy
You seem to be trolling for free food
Holy shit, it works a lot too
God, you're an ass
And here you are playing video games within my Sunday
All right, you know what at this point, I want my phone back
So
All right, so I got it
Okay, so Tinder, I download it as a heterosexual male
And it shows you me pictures of females in the area
Because you know, those are the people that I'd like to go out with
And it shows you ladies in the age range that you give
So let's say I'll say 24 to 30
And does that match up with the Blumenfeld rule?
What's the Blumenfeld rule?
Oh no, the Blumenfeld rule is how many ladies are you allowed to have slept with?
Oh, not your age
And not your age, oh right
But there is that formula of your age divided by 2 plus 7
So mine would be 22
So 22 to 30
And then it shows me ladies within a certain mile radius
Let's say I set the radius to 5 miles
It shows me ladies in between the ages of 22 and 30 in my area
And it just shows me their Facebook profile picture
And I can either swipe it to the left, which means I don't want to meet you
Or swipe it to the right, which means I do want to meet you
And if they, the ladies are getting the same pictures as the guys
Or the ladies are getting pictures of guys
And if they swipe me to the right and I swipe them to the right
Then it means yes, we both said yes
And it matches us up digitally and we can start a conversation
Now you're under the impression that I will match with someone during the course of this podcast
I think you will
Because
I think you will because I'm making your profile for you right now
Yeah, this is the star treatment that I'm getting
Because Jake himself is going to make my profile
Here's the two biggest worries that I have about matching with someone on Tinder
One, I think my strong suit isn't my pictures
It's my personality
And that really can't really come through in Tinder
It's like purely a physical thing
True or false
No, that's true, but you're also cuter than you're giving yourself credit for
Thanks, dude
And I think you can show a lot of personality in pictures
For instance, your profile picture right now, which I'm considering leaving
Wait, did you download the app?
Yeah, oh, it's downloaded
It's fast
So iPhone 5 is super fast
I use the 4 and holy shit is it bad
So what's the first screen? It asks you for a profile picture?
No, it just pulls your last 4 profile pictures
So according to Tinder, your profile looks like this right now
Okay, so Jake is showing me a profile
It's just my name, my age, and then my last profile picture
Which is like a silly picture of me with a magnifying glass up against my face
So that my smile looks unusually big
Do you think that's a good profile picture or a bad one?
It's definitely, I think it's a good number two
It shows you have a lot of, it's like kind of creative
It's your personality photo
So like, I'm not going to lead off with it, but I definitely want people to see it
You're making what I'm actually thinking in like a douchey voice
But that is definitely, that's exactly what I'm, all right
So now I'm going to just try to find the most attractive picture of me
Yeah
Okay
Or the picture where you're doing something like the most interesting
Because like sometimes I won't necessarily see someone's face
But I'll be like, oh that person went to Iceland
That's cool, I can talk to her about that
I see, it just like gives you little bits of personal information
That at least lets you start a conversation with someone
Exactly
So here's my second worry about Tinder in terms of me not matching
Well, I guess I have two more
All of my concerns are matching related
Number two, what if I match, meet and then she hates me
For example, my personality is subpar and I'm sort of an anal loser
What do I do if I'm alone the rest of my life?
That's not related to Tinder as much as it is
I'm zooming out a bit and sort of seeing the macro
The landscape of my life and I'm not looking too happy about it
So, deal with that
My age, age 30, a lot of people probably on Tinder are in their 20s, right?
They won't see 30 year olds
Or are they only showing me people that have put 30 year old dudes in their age range
They're only going to show you people that you could match with
So it will be people, I think anyway
It will be people that you could potentially match with
Okay
I'm starting with, like I should just choose pictures
I should, I'm being a little picky right now
What do you think of that?
Uh, it's not, I guess I'm not in love with it
The picture of you and Danny DeVito
Yeah, that shows that I was important enough at one point in my life to meet Danny DeVito
Exactly
Right, so I'm at least as important as Rhea Perlman was that one day
Oh, shit, how about this one?
Well, never mind
So, dude, you're not photogenic at all actually
I'm actually starting to reconsider this whole Tinder thing
Yeah, as I think about it, you sort of suck
Yeah
My third concern is that I'm very judgmental
Like not in a good way, like I'll see people and I'll judge them
So even if ladies are attractive, I might not swipe them to the right
Oh, that's a pretty
I think that's the one
Oh yeah, I'm very judgmental of ladies
So maybe you should do my swiping for me
Because there's going to be a lot of girls who are attracted
I'm like, oh, this girl looks annoying
Or this girl has an annoying bio
I'm just, I don't know, I'm very neurotic in the regard of choosing someone
Right, now you're sort of like a
You're sort of like a judgmental piece of shit
Yeah, I'm like a neurotic to sort of a loser in many ways
That's pretty, no, there's too many guys in that picture
I'm also not talking to the mic right now
That's probably driving you fucking crazy
So you've chosen the main photo, now you're choosing
So you get to choose more than one photo?
Yeah, you get to choose up to, well, five photos total
So one
Five photos total
One main photo
What do you think about this one in the camel?
Oh, that's cute
Yeah, that's it
Oh, I've been to a place that camels this way
See how that tells a story?
I don't know, Tinder's so superficial
But now from your profile picture, you'd be like
Oh, this guy's close with his family, his brother
Number two, he's got a good sense of humor
That's the magnifying glass over the mouth
This weird picture where you're looking very, very serious
It's like, oh, this guy is sort of a
What picture is that where I'm looking very serious?
I'll have to show you in a second
But you have your thumbs over your mouth
Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that one
My brother took that photo, it's a good high-res photo
It shows that, hey, I know people who are wealthy enough
To afford a digital SLR camera
There's also this picture that we took on set
Of you covered in blood holding a cat
What do you think about that one?
That might be a good one for the last one
It's like, at least, show the person with the slate
So at least people think that it's for a video shoot
And I'm not just naked holding a cat
Great, that's it, it's done
So what about...
Also your tagline, we gotta change your tagline
What is it, current...
Wait, is it my profile live right now?
No, it's not, yes, I think it might be
Okay, so people can see it regardless of us
Us working on the tagline
Right, you're probably getting swiped to the left
All over the place right now
So it shows my photo, my name, my age
And then a tagline
Yeah
And the tagline could be anything I want
Anything you wanted to say
A sentence, sort of like a tweet, think of it
I gave a good tagline to Marty, our friend
Which was, hey, I'm Mark Zuckerberg, exclamation point
No, just kidding
You think that's too weird or I shouldn't use it?
Well, just in case somebody else has seen Marty
It would be weird
Yeah, because if that's a tie and then it comes out to the photo
I'm afraid people would just choose Marty
Yeah, totally
Yeah, he's taller and better looking
Uh-huh, way more handsome
So it's also funnier when he says it for some reason
Not even says it, just has it under his name
Yeah, it's more of a Marty quote
It's gotta be sarcastic, I think that's the key
What about I'm kind of a small deal
Oh, that's kind of, that's nice
Although that kind of, it might be
That might, yeah, people might think that's true
Yeah, like, oh, he thinks he's like a little bit of a big deal
Um, what about, um, trust me, I'm less Jewish than I look
Oh, there we go
Well, will that attract anti-Semites?
That'll attract Jews, for sure
Although I can't imagine, yeah, because it says my name is Amir
That sort of, would that piss people off?
Like, what do you mean you're less, like, that's a bad thing?
This isn't J-Date, I think it's okay
The stakes are really low on Tinder
I should download J-Tinder, actually
That way I can make my mom and you happy at the same time
Your mom swipes it
My mom's the only person in charge
That's like such a lame, lame joke that Jewish moms would love
J-Tinder
If only Jewish moms understood enough about the internet
To get what apps are in general
That's true
All right, so now we're gonna go to settings
We're setting it to desperation mode
That is, anyone, any age range, male or female
Within 200 miles of year
Holy shit, I matched with a 61-year-old dude in Philadelphia
I think I'm gonna go on a date with him or something
His name is Roy and he makes cheese steaks
I'm into it
All right, so we're looking for females
24 to 32
Sure
What's the matter?
What's your range?
18 to 19
18 to 18 and a quarter
My range is 5 and a half to 6 and a half
Well, my rule is just, and I think it might match up
With the divided by 2 plus 7
Anyone that I can't legally walk into a bar with
I don't want to match with on Tinder
So 21 and over
21 to 29
For me, it feels like if they're more than two years older than me
They're like looking for something serious
Oh, I see
Though I guess like, no one's really looking for anything that serious on Tinder
Yeah
All right, we're good to go
Yeah, we're set
We're pulling in, should we talk about the, before we start swiping
Should we talk about, should we ask, should we do a question?
Oh, yeah, let's ask a question and then while we answer
Either you or I can take turns swiping
Before, I'm just gonna, this is number one
I'm just gonna swipe this girl right now
Her name is Rita
She's 24
I can say the names, just first names, right?
Sure, I guess
Her name, we'll call her, we'll call her R
Oops, too late
You're shared, you have one shared interest on Facebook and it's seamless web
She's 295 pounds
Liked
Let's see
All right, your first swipe was not a match
That kind of hurts
Over one, believe it or not
Although I had, if to match with someone, I'd have to match with someone who has used Tinder in the last like 30 seconds, right?
Yeah
Well, no, I think
Yeah, but I think also when you join, you're like, your picture is thrown up onto the top of the pile for a lot of people
Uh, to incentivize you to match people
Yeah, to like keep you addicted to the app
So it shows you shared interests
Um, yeah, your shared interests and their age
Do you like, quote, Jake and Amir on Facebook?
Uh, quote, oh, you mean like the page?
Uh, yeah, I am interested
Have you ever had, have you ever seen a girl whose shared interest was Jake and Amir?
Yeah
And have you ever swiped her to the right?
Um, only once
And it was a match, right?
Did not match
So this girl likes our web series, saw you and then swiped you to the left?
Or maybe I left that her area, which is what I like to believe
No, you didn't, you didn't actually leave your area
Yes, I was still very much in her area
All right, so you want me to read a question and then go back to swiping?
I think so, yeah
All right, give me my phone back for a second
Absolutely not
You can't, you can't bring yourself to stop swiping is the problem
That is my problem in life
All right, ready?
Question, these are all Tinder based questions
This is our Tinder themed episode
This is like the most publicity we've ever given someone and it's for absolute free
We really should email them and ask about sponsoring
All right, ready?
Yep
Hey, dude, so there's this girl I've been dating on and off for about a year now
She's great and like my best friend
But her and I have been fighting a lot lately and it's making me have second thoughts
Last night I was on Tinder swiping away when I see this girl
She looks familiar so I go into her profile
And I realize it's a girl I know from years ago
I swipe her to the right and I immediately we are a match
We start texting and I realize that I have everything in common with her
It's making me think that I should date this new girl
But I'm not sure I should knowing how bad it would crush the first girl
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
This dude's name
Who we did not come up with a theme for this episode
The theme is Tinder, everybody's name is Tinder
All right, cool
This guy is so, it's so almost adorable how stupid he is
Because he's like should I chewed on my girlfriend or not?
Well, number one
It's dumb that your main reason for not wanting to be with someone else is
Because it would hurt your girlfriend's feelings
Right, that's the worst
If it's that then you should just break up with her
Right, because I think nothing would hurt her feelings more
Than finding out you were with her out of pity
I don't want any but you're still on Tinder right now, aren't you?
Yeah, I'm swiping while you're talking
This girl's kind of a babe, what do you think?
Oh yeah, definitely
Thanks dude
Appreciate it
You liked her?
She's in the vault
Great
So, I mean right off the bat, break up with her
Right, because you are only with her because
And he's on Tinder
Yeah, you downloaded Tinder, so that's the first sign you have to break up with her
Yeah
And then also you're saying that
But also just really quick
The girl that you matched with is not the one
You didn't, no one finds their soulmate on Tinder
And you only think she's your soulmate because you've been like
Because you want out of your relationship so bad that everybody is perfect
Right, so this guy would take anybody
Yeah, he's just unhappy and you're just unhappy in a relationship
It's weird that he's like phrasing this as a Tinder question
But it's like basically like, I like another girl, should I go after her?
Knowing, although I don't want to break my other girl's heart
So I guess my separate theory is that maybe I can just grow old with the girl that I'm currently with
And always grow to regret it
Bare bones of this whole entire thing is you just don't like your girlfriend
It has nothing to do with like you liking another girl
You're not having like some affair with somebody that you're meant to be with
You just don't want to be with your girlfriend
Somebody else is like shiny and new
Definitely don't break up and go right into another relationship
That's never a good thing
Should he even be on Tinder?
That's not okay, right?
Would you say that's not okay?
Oh yeah, definitely, that's bad, that's mean
Like going on Tinder while you're in a relationship is like basically admitting to something
That's grounds for termination of a relationship
Your girlfriend should dump you for what you've done
I've reached my first Tinder milestone of
A girl that is not necessarily my type physically, but she has a great bio
Let me see it
And so I'm thinking of swiping her based on the bio
See this is why bios are important
Bios, yeah, this girl's
That's a cute little sentence
You see this picture of the dog?
Fuck yeah
Shit, you want to swipe her actually
So this is important, like her pictures are killer, all right?
She's got herself in a goddamn vineyard
Yeah
So that's cool
She wears a dress and a vineyard
I want to be part of this life
Number two, she's clearly at a party
So this girl likes adventure going on a vacation
But she's also down to rage
She likes a rage phase
Yeah, I want to be part of her life
Yep
And then, oh, number two, guess what?
She's near a pond with her mom
So yeah, she's close to her family
She's a family woman
That is important, oddly enough
And her mom's a goddamn smoke show
Really?
Part number two, her mom has a hot bod
Her mom can get it
I would love to at least swipe her mother
And there we go
She's walking down the beach
Shoes in her hand, she is cool
She's ready to get her feet in the sand
Shoes in hand, she wants her feet in the sand
So wait
You know what I'm saying?
Keep swiping while we describe for any ladies
Who are out there on Tinder
What would you think?
Some tips for
Your shared like with a lot of people is seamless
There's like some kind of deal, huh?
Is there like a get 20% off if you like us on Facebook deal?
Maybe so
Or maybe I was just feeling very liking of seamless
I mean seamless is a food ordering app in New York City
Oh dude, this girl is fucking cute
I'm about to get on Tinder myself for this one
Hell yeah
This girl is fucking
Jesus dude
Wait a second
Oh my god
She's the one
You're bone hard right now
All right, so here we go
That's your dick against the bottom of the table
Here's something really encouraging about this girl
Second picture, she has her arm around some guy
And he looks exactly like you
Oh so you know that she already
Oh yeah
He's kind of like a nerdy, jewey looking guy
But it doesn't
I don't know
It's
I feel like that's her brother
Not her not her ex-boyfriend or something
Chicks love dudes that make it seem like
They're kissing her brother
Look at these girls pictures
They're so fucking cute
That's a silly good picture
Yeah
Yeah that's like
So look at the other ones
They're all good
They're all like that dude
Oh yeah
Sense of personality
The sense of humor comes through in the photos
See
So Tinder's not as shallow as people make it seem
Although like it
A lot of times it says active a day ago
Like that sort of takes away the suspense of
If I swipe her will we become a match right away
Obviously not because she hasn't
You know what
I think we should
It looks
Give me your phone
I'm gonna update your
I'm gonna make your search radius just a little bit wider
Excuse me
I'm sorry
I got you
Why you want to see me swipe that girl
Yeah
It is it is very oddly addicting right
You're just like
You don't realize that you're like judging a father's daughter
You just realize that you're saying
Oh
I fuck her
I fuck her
But I'm not saying
I'm not even thinking about boning
I'm thinking about how uncomfortable or
Comfortable I would be inviting her
Out
Yeah you should start thinking about boning
Yeah
Because that'll lower your bar a little bit
Because sometimes I'll see a girl like
Oh I wouldn't want to like introduce her to my mom and dad
Then I'm like oh I don't have to do that
Would I want to bend this girl over in a bathroom bar
And then it's like most of the time yeah
Actually I've never swiped to the left when I think about that
Because hey everyone has a vagina and more or less they all look the same to me
Especially when they're facing the other way
And all I have to look at is the back of a shirt
But that's the difference between me and you
It's not just cool
Yeah
You are wearing a black wife beater right now
That's not fair
It's how it's the it's the Saturday before Halloween
What is this episode coming out?
Thursday
Thursday so
Halloween day
Halloween Oh it's perfect
It's our Halloween episode
Though on Thursday I'll be going out again
But so it's part of my Halloween costume
Which is what?
Sexy cat
Great question sexy cat
What's yours ass
I'm trying to be Ned Flanders
That the mustache I got is more gay Hitler
So I'm a little bit worried about that
It is just dark dark dark and pencil thin
Here's something that I'm doing
Just gonna swipe to the right a bunch
You just want me to
But then that
No no I won't
I'm just thinking about it
That devalued us
The it devalues the match
Yeah that's true
You don't want to match with someone
Who you're not excited to match with right
You're right
You're true
You're true man
You're true though
I'm Truman
I'm Harry Truman I think
That's that's your new bio
What is my bio again I already forgot
I'm less Jewish than I look
That is funny
Yeah
Oh that's funny
Oh hey this girl likes homeland too but
All right enough about the shared interest
You really ought to you ought to change your interest
Why homeland is good
Does it does it organized by
Like is it completely random the stream of ladies that's showing
I've had no idea what their algorithm is
I would love to know
I really would
You know didn't because
Tinder is owned by the company that owns College Humor
Right
So we said that we could maybe get the
Tinder CEO or whatever a hire up there at Tinder to
I emailed him
And he's based they're based in LA
He swiped your email to the left
They're based in LA but he said he'd be down so
Maybe when we're out there
Once we move it's game over
It's actually really game over
You're just like you're I'm being very liberal and you're just
You're not going to get a match
Because who's on Tinder at Saturday night at 8 p.m.
I guess
Sorry 9 30 p.m.
Right all these people are active a day ago sadly
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Um, should we read another question? Yeah, it's your phone back. Yeah, or you can read it
Okay, it's the second email from the bottom
Of course started from the bottom and now we're the second from the bottom. So not that far away actually
all right
Hey, jna. I like when people call this jna
Hey jna. Thanks to this podcast. I discovered the awesome tinder app and even better. I think I found a perfect match
In fact, she's so perfect that she also heard about tinder from this podcast
She's funny cute doesn't freak out when I say stuff like I'll shoot myself into starbucks
Anyway, what's bothering me is what we've been chatting for two days and sorry
Anyways, what's bothering me? It's not so easy to read actually. We can edit that out. Can't you?
Also lift your phone up higher just so you're talking more square into the microphone. Oh, fuck yeah, shit
So what's bothering him is anyways, what's bothering me is that we've been chatting for two days
Oh, fuck. No two days only. No, this is a bad sentence structure pal
It's not me. So anyways, anyways
What's bothering me is that we've been chatting for two days only and we already developed a close relationship
At first I was happy about this
But then I realized how easy it was for me to win her now just like a mirror
I like a girl who hasn't tasted too many cocks before mine
So now I'm afraid that she might actually turn out to be a slut
She even told me that back in high school
She wants to rub the dick of one of her mates during geography class just for the excitement
I'll be so mad if I get ditched by this bitch for another guy in a week or something. How do I how
How do you think I should approach her? Should I take her seriously?
Thanks tinder. First of all, I don't like that
He lumps me in because that's not my theory at all like I do
I don't necessarily like a girl that's like easy to access or attain
But like if I'm on tinder, I wouldn't that's sort of everybody's there to hook up. So I wouldn't like
Judge them in that regard. So also you like that was a that was a pretty rare occurrence that he's gonna
Download a tinder met someone that downloaded the app. Like that's an immediate close connection
Yeah, the fact that they both listen to the podcast. Yeah, and rubbing someone's dick doesn't make her a slut
buddy
If anything that makes her a really prude girl because she's only touched one dick at the end of high school
And that was exciting to her. She rubbed a dick and that was exciting
Okay, I I'm looking for girls that like rub a dick and they and they feel like they they clip their nails or something
All right, that's how normal it is for them. I've been rubbing dick since age 13. Trust me. It's no big deal to me
Uh, are you swiping right now?
Always dude. Yeah, I see you're being very very liberal with a left right left right. No, I just nope somebody
Just nope somebody. Oh this girl is just she's cute. She's hiding half her face
So that's sort of the uh, ironic or a paradoxical problem that is
Meeting a girl and she's super into it right away if you're like, wait a minute
Maybe she's super into everything right away, but you can't have it both ways. You can't have take a girl home
Fairly easily and then be like I only want her to be able to take me home very easily like odds are she goes home with
Maybe more than just you
And that's sort of something you have to get used to if you want someone who's very uh, like takes
Takes their time whether it be a boy or a girl
If you want some of that takes their time you have to be able to put their time in and otherwise
If if you're looking for a lady who's very easy or a guy who's very easy
Then odds are that lady or guy is very easy with more people than just you
Yeah, and but it's also just not fair
You don't know her yet. You guys got a close relationship on tinder. Does that she didn't fuck you that doesn't mean that she's easy
Yeah, yeah, he's also like jumping to way way way conclusions
Right if anything I feel like you have delusions of grandeur, which is like, oh man. Yeah, we connected really quick on tinder
So she probably fucks everyone
There's a chance she would just straight up reject you if she met you ass
She definitely would reject you if she saw that email which she's going to
Why is it showing me a 34 year old here? I'm just swiping right now
Sometimes if it slips through the cracks. Yes, swipe right see what happens
I feel like it would slip through the cracks because it was a match really. I don't know. It's my theory
uh
But she's she's only been active two hours ago. Have you ever swiped someone to the left or right just because of a name?
No, well this girl's kind of a babe, too
What's her name?
I don't want to say her name. I feel weird. Rita. There's an x in it. Let me see
Oh, hello mama
See I don't I don't feel hello mama's ever maybe tinder's not for me
That's not true. I guess I feel it, but I don't say hello mama
Yeah, what's like them when you like want somebody are you like, oh man, I want to you do you never feel like I want to
Fuck that person
uh
I guess you don't have like animalistic attraction to anybody. I do have
This girl's also cute. Do you want to fuck her?
See I don't I know I don't go there. What do you think of? I'm like, oh, it would be fun to hang out with her and see
Well, what if she's a piece of shit? We get along really she's not a piece of shit because honestly don't even talk about her like that
She's my she's my baby
shared interest hoodie alan. Oh, that's
Sniper, but it says active six hours ago. Just swipe it anyway though. All right. I'll swipe. I'll swipe relax
Oh, this girl kind of looks like sarah schneider
Whoa, wait a second. It is Sarah schneider
Doesn't she she looks so much like sarah schneider. That's weird. Wow
Sarah, how dare you you have a boyfriend. You changed your name to jenny and you're 23 years old. I think how dare you
Absolutely
Um, where were we on this guy?
You really get lost in this app. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is why I like
This is why I've been like not effective as a writing partner for the last year
So we haven't written a new episode in over an hour
This is why like sometimes we'll be on the couch and you'll like say something and I'm just not looking at you or listening
It's because you're like judging judging. Yes. Well at some point
No, you know soon you're gonna have messages and then you'll be like, oh man. I have to respond to these messages
Oh, geez and then it's fun. Oh god, it's fun
It's weird because I sometimes I like the name, but I don't like the person
Should I still swipe her to the right just the name? Yeah
You think someone like the name is mckenzie is cute
So you're gonna swipe her to the right because you want to say hi mckenzie. Yeah, or annie or lucy or something. Oh, those are cute
That's what those are like, uh
Wait, so you never have animalistic. I want to fuck you
Uh, I don't know if my brain jumps to that right away. I think like, oh that girl's pretty but you're not asexual
No, I'm not asexual
But I don't think it's like at the forefront of my brain when I meet people
You're not asexual and uh, I am asexual asexual deviant is what I am
Another cute lady who's sharing just a seamless web
I'm gonna start liking seamless. I'm gonna go home. Oh, this girl's run a marathon. There you go
But should I have a marathon photo in my thing? No, maybe
Or is it too like on the nose like a little like bragging? No, it's pretty cool. I think it's cool
Especially like the thing is you throw up something like the marathon photo
You'll meet a lot of people who are gonna who are gonna swipe you and be like, hey, I run too
And then I'm like, oh that was uh, uh five years ago
Yeah, that's how I am with I just have a climbing photo in there and I haven't climbed in like
Eight months. So I feel bad being like well actually that's a that's a good segue into another question we got
Uh, this one comes from tinder actually
He writes, hey dudes
I'm an 18 year old male in high school who decided to join tinder a couple days ago
And I just have a couple questions about how to use this gift from god
One of them is that I have gained some weight since the last photo I posted on facebook
Not that much around 10 pounds and I was wondering if I should put new photos on facebook or just leave the ones
I have right now and lose the weight
These aren't the only two options that are available any option any advice would help maybe even some weight loss tips
Many thanks tinder cut out carbs be the man in your photo be the man you'd rather be yeah
What are we gonna suggest uh putting a fat photo of you up rather than you losing weight?
Here's some here's some inspirational advice put the photos on tinder that you want people to see that's the man you want
That's the person that you want attracting people and then you become the guy in your photos
Oh, I see you can do that man. I'm trying to think what my photos on tinder are
Maybe I'll see you. No, I won't because I'm a I'm a it says dude looking for chicks, right?
You can't see me
Trust me. Actually unless you're bi or something. Whoa, you just came up. Oh, absolutely not
Absolutely not
All right, actually, I think let's uh, let's just answer questions for the next 10 minutes
Let let your swipes sink in you think so. Yeah
How many swipes have you done?
Easily a thousand I could do a thousand now
Jesus easily a thousand it's a never-ending stream, right?
Yeah, I mean in new york
I remember when I downloaded it in seattle for you swiped all the 30 minutes. I just I swiped them. I
Yeah, I ruined it. I downloaded tinder in iceland
and uh, I went on
There was eight people or something like that in all of reiki Vic
And I swiped them all they were gone and then there was nothing and then I would just like look every single day
And like someday there was just a new person. So like
one day
Olga she just she just joined or something. I swiped her to the left. It's like no new matches. No one around you
Like, oh, no
Olga come back to me. You and me. Oh
okay
I found a lady who was active eight minutes ago. There we go. Is she cute?
um
She's she's attractive, but not necessarily right for me
Swipe to the right
Oh, this is another no it didn't match god damn it, dude
Ass have you ever accidentally swiped someone to the left and you're like, wait, wait, come back
Yeah, it's a gut punch because you'll never see that person again
Yeah, it is like I've done it a couple times
Swiped to the left too quick and it's just like that was the one she was my soulmate
She would have been it. I could have deleted the app after her. That's actually your
That's the movie you're writing about the one that got away the one that swiped away the one that swiped to left
Oh my gosh
Mercy
Mercy
Did we give this guy advice?
Yeah, lose the weight cut out carbs. That'll do it if you're drinking alcohol. Why don't you just no no no sweet drinks, uh, no carbs
Uh, that's easy for you to say because you've also probably gained 10 pounds in the last, uh
X amount of months. How dare you right? I mean, aren't you are you the fattest you've been for a good amount of time?
Right now. Yeah, I'm the fattest. I've been in a while
Have you ever not swiped a girl because she's out of her out of your league and you know that she won't
You
No, this girl's like goddamn
Dying was that girl. I there was that girl. Um, let's call her tinder
There I swiped her. Do you remember that? I like she was so hot that I screamed. Oh wow that girl's gorgeous
I mean, she's like she's not gonna swipe a Jew a loser Jew actually
Like her just in case but she hasn't been online in like seven days either the hot ones never have been
Because they don't need it. Yeah
I but I oh instead I just go out and uh meet the hottest guys
Thanks tinder girl. Like why would you ever? Oh my god? Just like it must be so exhausting
Just dodging dodging guys all the time
But oh wait, do you remember that girl? I screen shot at her while I was just looking at her because she was so hot
And then I obviously didn't match
literally
Three months go by and I got an alert that was like you you and so and so matched and I looked through her pictures
And it was her and I was like it blew my mind and I like screen shot and I told everybody
I told so many people and then like
I wrote hey and then nothing for a day and then she wrote back like a really long message and asked me a question
I was like holy shit. Is this for real? And then I realized and then I wrote her back. I asked her a question
I heard back the next day. I was so excited. Then I wrote her back again
And then she was just like nothing that was it the end nothing ever again
She was gone for a week and I was every single day
I would just look at my phone and be like did she did she respond did she do anything?
No, never and finally Jeff Rosenberg was like just you should just message her and be like let's get a drink
Like you have nothing to lose. Yeah at this point. It's over. So finally I messaged her. I was like, hey, let's get a drink
Nothing what is the end? Well, that actually takes me to a question. We didn't receive over the
Email but a question that I received to my text messages, which was uh, that's the star treatment
If you ask enough questions you get here's number and you can text. We'll call my friend Jay
Jay writes to me, uh specifically a text. Um, he said
Well, oh it was like we got a question about how a guy matched with a girl and she didn't text him back
And he's like that I understand the real question is
What happened? Why is it when a girl?
Matches with you responds to your message things are going well and then she just disappears. Yeah, that's tough
Does that happen to you? It happened with this fucking smoke show that I was in love with
So just conversation or you match which means you both find yourself attractive enough to at least swipe each other one direction very quickly
Right, and then you start a conversation. She responds
And one day just stops. I think it can be a lot of things. I think it could be like
her
Meeting somebody else, you know, maybe out in real life or maybe also on tender like she must have a ton of I mean
If you're a girl that's attractive, I feel like you get matched every single time you swipe someone to the right
All right, because there's some girls who probably have like an 80 to 90
Swipe right right and I mean whenever they swipe to the right. It's obviously someone who's already swiped them to the right
Yeah, and like I
Dude, I have a fucking I have a really tight tinder game. I am a beast in that
I really am a beast in that regard. There must have been somebody out there who ran a tighter game than me
Or like maybe she got back together with her ex or maybe she got hit by a bus, which I'm hoping is what happened
But like I think there's just a million reasons and also I've definitely stopped talking to girls
So I'm just like, you know what?
I can already tell we wouldn't vibe. There was that girl. Do you remember that girl that was like
I invited her out and she was like upset that I invited her to a group thing
And then she was like gonna come and I was like, yeah, this is where we are and she's like who's with you
Like are there any girls and I was like, yeah
There are some girls here
We were like our friends and she and then she was like no like girls can be bitches and I was like it sounds like you
Specifically are the bitches. Yeah, my friends are nice
Nobody would be mean to you you meanie and but like it just put me off so much that she'd be like, uh, no
Like girls are such bitches. I'm not gonna come out and meet your friends
I guess like in retrospect. I was inviting her to a group hang instead of taking her out
But like that's what tinder is. I don't have to like take someone a coffee. It's like it's not it's not okay cupid
No, although here is uh
Your your your your preference is to invite people out to a group hang. It's never to meet one-on-one, right?
Yeah, I hate meeting one-on-one because there's too much pressure. It's just not as fun
Like I like that. I like you want the home court advantage
Well, I would go out with I guess I wouldn't want to go out her friends
Yeah, I want the home court advantage
I mean, I used to do this thing with Dave Rosenberg. This is some unsolicited advice for anybody out there dating. I used to
We called it, uh
Coorded date
Oh, like that coordinate. That's funny. See you coordinate tinder dates
It would just turn into a double date
So I'd go out with someone and I'd be like, hey, I'm gonna go to the white hotel and I would go
Show up with my date solo and then Dave would come a half hour later
And I'd be like, oh
Hey, this is my friend Dave. What are you doing here, man? And then we'd be the rest of the night
We get to be on a double date
So what you do is is uh sneakily force a girl that you didn't want to double date into a double date
Exactly because then it's like it's more fun. I don't want to miss a night hanging out with my buddies
Because you want to have the group hang and then also the babe hang. I want to have my cake and fuck it too
Which one's the cake Dave? Okay
Um, are there like tinder? I mean you you've used it for so long
You probably like start noticing formulas like a girl who sort of looks attractive in her uh profile picture, but it's like a
Uh exterior shot or like a faraway shot. You're like, oh, I know that she's only doing this to hide something
Like later on like is there anything like that that you noticed or like
Yeah, we're talking about girls because jakes jakes only seem girls, but i'm sure guys do this too, right?
I mean, well, I specifically do it. I mean everybody puts up their best photos for sure. Yeah, no one puts up their worst photo
That's what you should have to do somebody else would have to choose your worst photo
But I feel like anyone can look ugly. It's just like and anyone can look attractive. Yeah
So I think you just I don't know. But you can't you can't tell when somebody is unattractive or when somebody's trying to hide something
Um, I can also at this point. I can tell when I'm gonna match someone. I know when I will yeah
How I don't know. I just I just get a feeling and how often are you wrong with that feeling? Never
What that's not true. I mean, I'm wrong sometimes
But I also like I think I swipe so much that like I don't even match when I swipe anymore
I only get alerts that are like so-and-so has matched you
Oh, so you're like you're racing out ahead of the field
So far ahead of the field that there's like not a lot of girls left in new york for me
I bet I can swipe all of new york before I go
That's your that should be your goal
Well, what's your mile radius set to because in new york is very concentrated. Yeah, new york I do I vacillate between four and five
Oh, really? Yeah, so that's like
Does that even get to the west side of Manhattan would want it? No, I don't think like Manhattan kids don't want me
What I'm just like I'm brooklyn all the way
You think so I think so, huh?
All right, I really I really do. You know, it's gonna be fun. It's when we're on a road trip and like
Swiping swiping in Arkansas
But isn't that also are we gonna run at the same problem of like we're not gonna be
in places long enough for
Yeah, but I think people like on tinder is so is so like not
The stakes aren't very high. You don't have to be like no one's looking for their actual soulmate
Everyone's just looking for fun. So you're like, hey, I'm just here for
Like a lot of people's bios in new york actually are like
NYC for the weekend, right? And that'll be if that's their tagline. Oh, I guess that's nice
Have you ever swept a girl to the right so hard that your phone broke?
What I've swiped to the right so hard that I crashed the app once I really have I think I swiped so hard
I yo swipe so hard. My fucks want to find me. That's shit. Craig. That's it. That's it tinder
Do you want to take over with me for a while? I feel like I'm being too you're I mean you're
I've lost you you're mesmerized. You're not even going out tonight anymore. Are you why would I we had plans
I have all the digital ladies. I need right here. I can see the reflection of them in your glasses
It's the saddest little thing just to imagine you here alone an hour after we've recorded the podcast you haven't cleaned up. Well
You said there's nothing shameful about tinder, but would you use it in public?
um
Probably not there's nothing shameful about being on it, but I think there's something a little shameful about like
Actively seeking ladies on digital worlds in just like while you're doing something
I mean, I feel like I've been somewhere where it was totally normal to like
Look at a tinder message, you know just waiting in line somewhere
Or like that little flame goes up and I'm like, oh god, I should that's why actually I had an idea for an app
Because I have okay cupid and tinder
I have an idea for an app that just makes it look like it
So it just makes it look like the new york times news feed when I'm on tinder
That's what it should be when I launched the app
It's an in white. Yeah, and it looks like a crossword. That's funny. That's what it should be
um
All right, look we have time for one more by the way
You said I could take over and then you you never handed your phone over to me
Well, let me read this one. We're like, oh here you should take over for me and then you just
Rapid right swipe
I think we should keep on playing the next time we're on the podcast. We'll talk about the matches that you yet
Okay, that's good. Um
Oh, here we go
Hey, dude, so I went on my first tinder date last night. This girl's very pretty and fun
But she did something that kind of rubbed me the wrong way
She invited two of her girlfriends out to scope out the date
She doesn't know that I knew they were there, but I recognized them from the pics she sent me
Should I not go out with her again because of this that is super creepy. That's weird. I wouldn't go out with her again
But maybe that's maybe she's just been like, uh
Terrorite like maybe she has like a bad uh
Because a lot of girls like I've heard of girls doing like
Hey, I'm gonna go out a date with some guy
Text me in the middle and if it's not going well, I'll say it's an emergency
Right. I think that doesn't speak negatively on him
And it speaks negatively on dudes and like I don't blame her because a lot of dudes are awful
Yeah, but like to invite your friends to the bar. That's I think that's ridiculous
But maybe she's like she had she had she fucking she asked people to spy. That's not okay. That's espionage
That's actually a treason. I think she's a traitor on the usa
I think she's worse than julien assange. Actually. Yeah, she's a regular goddamn edwards
Edward snowden I think
Sometimes when I can't uh think of a word
I just pretend this stutter and it sounds like this is advice again
Unsolicited advice if you ever need to like sound smart you just like stutter
Oh, yeah, and like I couldn't think of the word edward snowden
It's good to get advice to sound smart from you actually
So goddamn it
Edward snowden like it sounds like you knew it the entire time you intentionally stutter
But what really what's really happening is that you don't know you're going through the mental rolodex of your mind
But what if you never get there? He's just like a goddamn
John won't smooth. Yeah, we like god damn
And then you start laughing like I can't finish the joke you get it though
No, you obviously know who he is. Oh, this girl cute though. Huh? What's that? You're not speaking to the microphone. This girl cute though, huh?
You made me do before
What I was like, I want to I want to do I want to I want to get pizza, huh? Oh, yeah
What
Sorry, I can't understand you. I want to get pizza. Wait, what?
What do you want to get? I said, huh? I want to get pizza ham. No
I just want it
Just like a mom who's like boiling down her cool. Use your words. I'm I said that I wanted to get pizza, huh?
All right
What is it good for absolutely pizza?
Let's say it again
Oh my god, this girl's tata are yaya
You're please
Oh, I would love to motorboat this this broad there should be a tinder just for bios
So like it'll that'll be my time to shine like just based on bios that would I would dominate that tinder
I feel like that's really nice. Yeah, we're like your tinder bio is anti-symmetics. I don't see how you
How you dominate another one of my advantages over the rest of uh
humankind
Is that I'm normal and most guys are not right every feel like that's hard to get across and a tinder profile
The thing is once once once we meet mean you will both do great because you're funny
And like any any time I've ever met a girl from tinder. She is like, oh my god. I'm so happy. You're so normal
Yeah, which is crazy 95 of dudes. You wouldn't want to hang out with them. It's hard to meet up with people
But once you do
All you have to do is not be a fucking weirdo and it's it's crazy. It works every single time. I've never ever
ever
Not been happy
With someone
Not been happy with someone. Sorry. I've never ever not fucked
I like a episode 32 or whatever. This is when like you decide I finally got shy
I'm I'm gonna put my foot down. I think on being cool
Uh, this has been more than enough. I'm happy. That's what it is
All right, give me my phone back. Are you done tinder? Or you want to tinder more?
Uh, I think well, like you said, maybe we should wait give it a couple days
We planted the seeds and we'll see if any tinder tinder bushes grow. I really think I really think it's going to happen
Uh, I want I want you to go on. Here's what I want to happen before we leave new york
I want to have one uh show where we talk about your matches and like the messages
But I don't want I feel anybody you meet. Yeah, I don't want to be like a dating podcast where it's like
Oh, then we talked about you. I sort of want to like leave it at that. We did our little piece
No, we're gonna do one more. We're gonna do one little follow-up. That's it. All right. Just just of conversation
For me, I want you to for me. I want you to go out on a date
Out of tinder date, but that's just for you. That's a separate podcast and only you'll listen to
Me recording the recap. I also I'm going to start another tinder podcast just straight up tinder talk tinder talk
We do get a lot of questions. So tinder talk coming this fall
Um, we wanted to give some shout out. Oh, we didn't even say what email with the email addresses or what the show's about
This has been a real like hell bent on getting laid on tinder
I hope this isn't the first episode someone's listening. Well, here's the I think this is a big problem is that like, um
If you're on tinder 2 then everything goes to shit right now
You have it all together and I'm trying to get laid all the time
And if you start just like using tinder and uh, yeah, everything is just going to fall by the way
Maybe I'll like give it a couple days and I'll just let tinder catch up. I'll get I'll get off it while you're on it
I think that's the only it's like a seesaw when I'm down. You're up in the other way around
I'm gonna do that for you. So the way this show usually works is that we get advice
We get people who email us in from who they're in a difficult place in their lives
And they don't really know what to do and they uh, they're seeking our advice
And we try to offer it to them
And if you find yourself in a difficult place in your life and you made it this far in the podcast
Uh, then you obviously find us entertaining enough to listen to for 49 minutes. Uh, it's been 49 minutes
No, I think it's been over 40. Yeah, it's been closer to 50 minutes. God damn it
Uh
Check out or you can email us at if I were you show at gmail.com. Yes, if I were you show not every episode is us
Uh, uh drinking ready to go out trying to meet babes
Although usually it's jake. That's at least jake's bra. Uh modus operandi. I dare you
But um, so yeah, email us if you find yourself in a dark place in your life
And you we want our help to guide you out
And uh, we are giving still shout outs to people who leave us reviews on itunes because it really helps out
So thank you our attend Danny maren tie summers linskins nine and lily and pagaza. You think they're on tinder probably
And I'd swipe their itunes review to the right
Actually, uh, so thanks guys and thanks for listening. This has been a silly different episode
But you know what? It's a bonus thursday episode. Let's go wacky everyone crying. Oh, no
You're upset that you didn't match. I didn't I didn't not a single goddamn match. Well, no, it's not fair
A lot of people are just out on a saturday. You'll you'll match
Yes, you should be able to organize ladies by when the last time they used tinder. I say that all the time. I actually wrote in
There's like a suggest uh suggestion box thing on tinder and that's what I did
What like only show me people who've been active in the last x yeah, because sometimes I'll just show you like well
Sorry, I don't like go on a fucking way. I get into it. This is this is the tinder episode
Sometimes you'll see people that have been active for like a month and it's like, hey, I'm not gonna match with this person
Why show them to me don't even give me the option probably having used they're probably done using the app
Yeah, or what about can I recommend this as a as a thing?
No group or dual photos in the top picture. Yo, and how about no fatties? You know I'm saying
insane
How dare you?
No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding
Fuck me. Oh, no, actually I can't
What do I
You're absolutely stuck. Let's go before it's too late. Oh that first song was from two julietes
We said that but this last outro one instead of it's another sitcom-esque themed one
I shouldn't say another because it's our first one, but it's from a guy named
Blake Blake, so thanks guys and thanks for listening. We'll be back on monday. Peace
Find me on tinder. No, please don't
Ah
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Nothing feels right
Well, I'll tell you what
You ought to do tonight. Oh if I were you
You I'd like taken a mirror and if I were you I'd email them in
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