If I Were You - 37: The FriendZone
Episode Date: November 14, 2013In this episode we discuss coincidences, confidences, and why the infamous "friend zone" doesn't actually exist.This BONUS Thursday episode is made possible thanks to LegalZoom: Online legal services,... made easy! Check out LegalZoom.com and use either coupon code "Jake" or "Amir" for a discount.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.
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When you need advice, we'll deliver publishing
You can't go disaster, no, you're in the profile's lane
You don't need to get tests for STDs
Just hold on, text and pass an overburn in the bathroom
Seize the cheese, so if I were you
I'm a beast and I would die if I were you
Text and girls get straight hard if I were you
I'd say, yo, do you
Yo, yo, do you?
That was Chandler
That was Chandler Bing, I think
And this is Chandler Bong himself
It's not a very popular comedy-nerd thing to say
But I think Friends is one of the funniest shows ever
Yeah, it really is
And it's sort of broad and mainstream
But it's also really, really funny
It's not cool, but I think I'm gonna go on a limb and say I like Friends
I think Friends is actually funnier than Seinfeld
And I think you've said enough
Wow, that was so hot
Yeah, you're authority now
The way you rose your voice
You pulled my hair back when you said that
Oh, god
Shit, no, I'm actually
Easy, easy does it
Hey, welcome to If I Were You
The only advice podcast on the internet, hosted by us
I'm Amir
And I'm Josh, trying it on
Jake, I'm Jake
Unfortunately for me, I'm still this
I've tried out introducing myself as Josh
And it didn't take
I'm not willing to give up
When I get ready to go out
I look in the mirror and I call myself Josh
Why?
I don't know, it's just something I do
I'm like, hey, I'm Josh
Hey, Josh, that's how I practice introducing myself
As Josh
Yeah, when I'm trying on clothes
I'm like, hey, Josh
What a weird thing to do
Josh should never be as candid as you are now
Yeah, Josh is the guy I want to be
And Jake is unfortunately the guy that I am
Jake is Josh's evil twin
And uh-oh, it's me
Holy shit, unfortunately I'm stuck as Jake
Pretending to be Josh
Yeah, sorry pal, you're doing a podcast with an evil twin
A doppelganger, if you will
That's not fun
That's not fair to you or Josh
Yeah, but Josh might be cooler
But he's not as good of a podcast host
Because he doesn't have these demons that you're battling
Yeah, that's true
Yeah, that's true
You're right, man, I am a boss
I didn't say that, I said you're psychologically on edge
I appreciate that you think I'm a beast in the podcast
Regardless
I didn't say that either
You absolutely did
I said you're, for whatever reason, so candid about
Your inner demons that it comes off as entertaining
So I appreciate it
I am a demon
Like an inner demon
Oh yeah, I'm battling my inner demons, yeah
My inner demons won, and now I'm just a demon
That's what demons are
Demons are humans where the inner demon won
Yup, yeah, the battle's over
I lost the battle, lost the war
I have become a demon
And the thing is, it was a genocide, I think, of the angels
So there's no coming back from that
I accept who I am
I accept what I am
Inside I am scorched earth, nothing more
The bad side has more than one
It has repopulated the earth
And there's a new sect of more evil people
That is currently waging a battle against another evil
They're normally been ever a resistance
Never
They didn't put up a fight because I guess they're pacifist
It was like the angels saw the demons
Just laid down and allowed them to like
Drive a tank over their faces
And now I'm a piece of shit
So what happened with other people?
In my brain, it's just angels on a swing
Unable to talk to girls or do anything like
Whoa, let's chill out
The demons that attack your angels are just like
They're like flies that the angels are on a swing
They just swat away the demons
They're like, hey, you should get french fries
No
Mine is like, oh, go after your friend's ex
I'll oppose Seinei
Didn't think so
Mine is like four angels playing badminton doubles
And a little angel or a little devil fly
Buzzes up and they all just destroy it with their racket
Alright, let's keep playing boys
Mine is a demon walks up to an angel
It looks like there's gonna be a fight
But then the angel unzips its face
And it's a bigger demon
Shit, man, I never had angels to begin with
Oh, no, it was always a demon
Fuck your friend's ex
Thanks mom and dad
You were supposed to raise me with angels
And turns out you didn't give me Jack's squat
Yeah, whatever, whatever, innate good
Most people are born with, I got Jack's shit
Nature and nurture both teaming up against me
How is that fair? I never had a fighting chance
How does the podcast work?
I'm like, at this point I'm crying
I think I'm sad, I really do
This is the earliest in the podcast I've ever, you know, just slipped into self-loathing
The hating of who I am
Well, I think it's because we're recording on Sunday night
Which is the pinnacle of the time of the week that's self-loathing
Yeah, this is the worst
Because last night, last night at this time
I was king of the world
Yeah, you were Josh
I thought I was, yeah, I was, well no, Josh
Josh would be like, in reading
I was Jake last night
I was a complete piece of shit, I was just like, oh man, I'm a god
Let's go out, let's get drunk, let's fucking meet chicks
And now, on Sunday night, the August of times
I just want to have somebody's hand to hold on the couch
That's it, all I want is just to be
You know what your problem is, you exist in two different universes
Yeah
Unfortunately, the week is not all Sunday nights
Nor is it all Saturday nights
Yeah, they quote, you know, Tuesday's pretty chill, not actually
Wednesday, get wild, Thursday's crazy, Friday's
Usually it's like two days of weekend, five days of week
But lately you've been operating on the exact opposite schedule
Which is a five-day weekend and then two days of recovery
Yeah, well that's, yeah, that's true
I guess we'll go out, we went out pretty hard on Wednesday
Yeah, oh, after our live podcast
Yeah, we got sauced
We didn't eat dinner
Yeah, we got liquored up a little bit
Did we not eat dinner, is that what it was?
No, we did not eat dinner
We didn't eat dinner and then we just drank whiskey
And that's what happens
The end
So, how does this podcast work?
We basically talk about why Jake's a piece of shit
Dissected for half an hour and maybe get to a question
No, just kidding
People find themselves in difficult places in their lives
And they don't have anybody to turn to
So they email us at ifirusho at gmail.com
We comb through the thousands and thousands of emails that we get
Choose three to five every episode
And do our best attempt to answer them
To advise them out of their terrible place
It's a flawless, flawless explanation
You know, that's the best one you've ever done
I'll give you the credit of coming up with the idea
We didn't know what our podcast should be
And Jake said an advice podcast
Yeah
And I was a little worried because we're not experts in anything
Nope
Luckily, that's what makes the show entertaining
Because we are so out of our element
Yeah, we're so dumb
Yeah, nobody wants to see an expert answer questions
We might as well be, like, I modeled it
Well, in my mind, I wanted it to be like car talk
But they're experts
Yeah, but like, we might as well do a car talk podcast
How stupid we are
It's like, hey, there's a problem with my 1992 Chrysler Sebring
We're like, oh, let's just make fun of the way he wrote the email
Well, let's not completely show these people how the sausage is made
That's true
Where's Sebring's made in 1992?
I'm probably thinking of a labyrinth
Either way, it's a Chrysler
To be sure
To be sure
So, let's get started
Let's answer our first email
And we're gonna give this person a fake name
Though it's a real email
And we're gonna give him a fake name to preserve his
Anonymity
Anonymity
Here we go
Ready?
Yes
Hey dudes
I'm in high school
So there's this minx that I like
I have two classes with her
And we have a lot in common
And get along very well
I asked her friend to ask this girl casually
Without being overbearing
If she would entertain the idea of hooking up with me
She told her friend that she likes me too much as a friend
Where do I go from here?
I still like her and she likes me
But only as a good friend
How can I win her over and seduce her?
Also, when I asked this girl to dinner one night
She agreed then said she was sick and bailed
I'm lost, scared, and more than confused
Thanks
Bugs
Bugs, I can clear this up for you real quick
Yeah
Sounds like a no-go
And your question of how do I seduce her
Is um, you don't
I don't know
But she still likes him as a friend
He actually editorialized his own
He said good friend
Yeah
The friend was like, oh sorry, no
She likes you too much as a friend
And he was like, alright, I appreciate that
I'm a good friend
No, I didn't say that
I just said she liked you too much as a friend
Right
As in she's not attracted to you
Like you as a friend is the polite way of saying
I'm not attracted to you
Right, which is like
I have so many emails that are like
I'm in the friend zone with this chick
She friend-zoned me
What do I do?
Like dude, that's not
That's such a nice polite way of just being like
Ugh
The not hook up zone
She thinks I'm ugly
What do I do?
I'm in the ugly zone I think
Where she puts people that are ugly
Yeah, she doesn't like my face or personality
How do I do this?
How do I get past her not liking my face?
Oh, you can't
There's no breaking out of the friend zone
Because the friend zone isn't a real thing
Your hideousness
What's a more accurate
That's a more accurate title
Actually, I've broken out of the friend zone before
Really?
Yeah
The girl is like, sorry, I only like you as a friend
I think you wear her down
Like erosion
You do just that
You have to be patient
That's all it is
You know it's a very attractive quality
Being chill
Yeah, not giving a shit when you get rejected
Yeah
And it's not taking failure well
Like you can get a little bummed when you fail
But I was talking about
Yeah, but when you're rejected
The best most attractive thing you can do
Is at least pretend like you don't give a shit
Right
And at best actually not give a shit
Best is actually not giving a shit
Yeah
For sure
Because when you see someone who gets rejected
And they stew and they're angry
And they're jealous and they're bitter
That's the bad move
That's like that validation of like
Oh man, yeah
It's a good thing I rejected that person
Yeah, because he's crazy
You know, there was one time
I did this like maybe last summer
But I would like
Cancel plans
I would like cancel on girls
Just to see how they reacted
Oh that's good
You're like an evil scientist
Yeah
You're like tinkering with these mice here
You're growing an ear on the back of their spine
Oh congrats dude
You pointed out that I was an asshole
Oh shit
Oh my goodness
I'm a jerk I think
If I
I'm glad that you told me
I'm glad
Yeah, now I'll change
The problem is that I can't
I already know I'm a jerk
The problem is that you won't
It's not that you can't
Anyway, the story goes
Three out of three girls failed
I canceled on this girl and she was so cool about it
But I wanted to like go out with her that night
I was like oh shit
Now I changed my mind
We should go out
I like you
Yeah, the worst
It's weird because you grow up thinking
Oh, have some perseverance
Go for it
Do it
Give it your all
When somebody tells you no
Don't take that for an answer
Right, it's like oh it's super cool to be like
To be a go getter
Yeah
No, it's actually
Well like it's different in dating
Cause like if you're in a job
If you ask for a promotion and they're like no
Then it does look cool to like
You go back in the next month
You work really hard and you go back and ask again
But with a girl it's like super not normal
The best way to get her is to act chill
Yeah, act chill
Act so chill that you actually become chill
Mmm
You know like a lot of people say
If you fake laugh for long enough
You'll start laughing
Yeah
Or if you like just
Pretend that you're over someone
Until it actually becomes the norm
Fake until you make it
That's weird advice to give on a podcast right
Hey man
Don't do you
Give up
Don't do you
Don't do you
I think yeah
We'll separate all of these
But the advice is to either you do use
Or don't do you
Or do the new you
Do the new you
Which is you know what
She wants me as a friend
Okay, fine, next
Yeah
I want to be with someone who
Actually does want me
I don't want to
I don't want to have to win someone over
It could have been the way you phrased the question
Which is like do you
Would you maybe consider hooking up with him
Yeah
Not like going on a date with him
Like hanging, I don't know
Yeah, you can learn from this mistake
But move it on to a different lady
You don't have to work on this girl
Yeah, I wouldn't even like
Yeah, don't
Which is easy for us to say
Right
Of course
What was the last time you were rejected?
By like in what sense
Like you fired a bullet
You swung about as you said
Didn't happen
Like I asked a girl out on a date and she said no
Yeah
Or you asked a girl to meet you one night
And she's like no
Well like that happens all the time
And you how do you react to that
I don't care
You've become the cool guy
Well like I mean like when you're out and you're like
Oh like I'm drunk
I'm like trying to meet up with people
And like you text, you know
You text someone and they're texting you
And then like you end up just going home
Or like you meet somebody else
And you just, I don't know
I think that's like
That's micro rejection
Yeah, cause like I'll sometimes reject people
And then like sometimes they'll reject me
And it's sort of like this ebb and flow
And then sometimes we meet up
Right
Well I think it's like 2009
I asked someone on a date and they said
Yes
And then they canceled
How dare they
Yeah
And you were beat up about it
I was pretty sad
And did you say
What why
How can you didn't
You didn't, what you just changed your mind
I can change too
Well let's figure this out
Well yeah
And then I asked all of her friends
Yeah
How do you put in a good word for me
I stood outside
I'd like to seduce her
I stood outside her window
Like John Cusack
And say anything
But I held up the boom box
And nothing was coming out
So I tried to press play
And then your shoulder starts
It slipped
Yeah
It clipped me
And it clipped me in the eye
And then like she came out just then
And like I was my
I was bleeding
And I started crying a little bit
And then like this dude
Like this dude came over
He was like
I thought he was going to help me
I was like hey please please
Like my eye
I think I think I scratched my cornea
And he like
And then he just like fucking
He just dug his hands in my pocket
Took my phone
Took my wallet
He took like
Like he took my keys
And like you can't do it
Like that's my
That's my apartment keys
You don't even know where I live
Please at least leave me the keys
He chucked them
Like into a tree
It was crazy
And like the way
I don't know
It was either serendipity
Or fate
Or an act of God
But the ring he actually
Went perfectly around a twig
Like an ornament
Ornate
Serendipity by the way
Another John Cusack movie
Which I tried to recreate
So I went into this girls library
And I wrote in every single book
Which I think he does in that movie
I wrote like a little note
Like with my number
And yes she
She called the police
Because I guess I had like
Broke and entered
And then I was like
Also defacing her property
So I don't know
Yes you do
I took rejection hard that day
That was a bad day
That was a bad day
For show
Alright so our advice
To this guy is
Move on
Move on.org
Yeah
Yeah
That's right
Alright next question
Next
Let's call this guy
Daffy Duck
Daffy Duck right
How does he write?
That's all
That's not
That's not Daffy Duck
Yeah dude
Suffer and fuck attack
That's so bad for the cat
That's through the cat
Yeah
I thought I thought I'll put the cat
What does that sound like?
Yeah that's tags
Elmer Fudd is like
Yeah
What's up
That's bugs
That's bugs
This really is like
This really is like
What I do with my little cousins
Where it's like
You like purposely get things wrong
We're out
And the dog says
Move
No
That's the first joke
It really is
Yeah it's like the disconnect
Between what an animal actually says
And who it is
That's the first joke
That you learn
And you're still telling it
Yeah I love that one
I love the dog move one
I'm going to use that as a
Tinder joke for no one
Yeah when we go out on the road
I think I'm going to open with that
I think I'm going to say
Welcome
The dog says move
And then I'm going to
You know it's a pretty
Pretty solid opening on Tinder
And if people do this
And screenshot it
Send it to me
And let us know if it works
If I were you show at gmail.com
So you say
So you write
Knock knock
And like
Obviously
Obviously
Who's not going to respond to
Knock knock joke
And they write
Who's there
And you write
Interrupting cow
And then
They write back
Interrupting cow
And you say shit
And you write back
Move
Fuck
That is a good one
Thank you
Have you used it
No I just came up with that
I'm going to
I'm definitely going to
I'm going to swipe as soon as
We're done
Just so I can use it tonight
That way like a girl would
Know that you're funny
Yeah
That's true
And since you're attractive
And funny
They'd want to meet up with you
Yeah
And then when we meet up
And I'm attractive
And funny
And I pay for the drinks
With my index
You're suddenly
Uh oh
I'm three for three
I'm funny
I'm attractive
And I'm rich
Yeah shit
I'm a baller
Oh my god
They hear the podcast
And
I'm all of a sudden
Talking about all the girls
That I'm fucking
And I get a text
That says
Hey
I don't know
What you think I am
But
I lied to you
It was an omission of the truth
And they say
That's considered a lie
And then I say
Is it
And then I say
Knock knock
You diva
You're really not going to
Respond to that
Let's start over
Interrupting you
Interrupting you who
Interrupting a you who
Board meeting
Alright
Ready?
Yep
Interrupting a you who
Board me
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You lovable idiot
You lovable lovable man
Alright ready?
Yep
Hey guys
Love the show
I'm a
I'm
What?
I'm early 20s
And I have been with
My girl for 5 years
Jake would probably
Cringe at this
Everything is sweet
Mad lovin
She cooks
Cleans
Active and funny
And in with her
Was no problemo
But the other day
In the car
I thought I saw her
Pick her nose
But I wasn't sure
Forgetting about it
Until we were on the couch later
I turned to laugh
And there was definitely
A pick
And it wasn't just a
Rim job
It was in
This isn't enough
To break up a great
Relationship
But it's also bugging me
Daffy
What?
What sort of
Stuck up relationship
Is this 5 years in?
This isn't enough
This isn't enough
To break up a great
Relationship
Yeah
Of course not
Yeah
We know what
Breaking up is about
But there is a disconnect
Because I don't even think
That's enough to
Write into the podcast
About
It's insane
It's
5 years
And you just saw
Her pick her nose
Now
By 5 years
You should be
Shitting while
She showers
While she's eating
Greek yogurt on the toilet
Yeah
At 5 years
5 years
You're pissing
In her face
Yeah
At 5 years
You're masturbating
While she's watching
The Oxygen Network
And you're both
On the couch
She's eating popcorn
And you're just cranking it
Yeah
Cranking it
Porn on
Not even
Headphones
Very loud
Very violent
At 5 years
It's an open book
5 years
Yeah
Picking noses
Oh my gosh
How long does it take
For you to like
Fart in front of a girl
A month or two
A month or two
Yeah
Like I'll do it
I'm not holding it in
Forever
I waited
4 years once
4 years
For one fart
I'm just kidding
Yeah
But it is
There is like
There are those little
Steps in relationships
You should be happy
That she's picking her nose
In front of you
And you know
Also concerned
That she finally became
Yeah
If anything
It's a little alarming
That you waited 5 years
But now that the romance
Is completely dead
I figure she thinks
Okay
Flood gates are open
Dude
You never pick your nose
You never pick your nose
We both pick our noses
I mean
We like
Me and you shameless
Pick our nose
Like it's disgusting
What we do
We dig
We dig
And flick
We dig
Yeah
We dig
We roll
We roll
And roll
And flick
Wow
Was that a new high
Or a new low
Get out of my basement
Oh my God
Yeah
No
Of course
Holy shit
You're throwing me out
Guys
What the fuck is that
They can't help you now
Help
I'm just
I'm concerned
Cause she picked her nose
And I
And I fear
What's gonna come next
Is she's
She's picking the inside
Of her asshole
She's just flicking
Crusty
Poop across the apartment
Some dingled berries
She's just rubbing
Her
Her ass across the carpet
Like a dog or something
I'm afraid she'll start
Snail trailing
The entire place
Oh no
Hashtag
Snail trail
You got it
Like you gotta
Chill man
You gotta
Let her do you
This is like a
Seinfeldian
Yeah
So
She picked her nose
She
There was a pig
There was a pig
There was a Seinfeldian
Oh yeah
She like
She sees a cab
He's in a
He's in a
He's in a cab
And he's like scratching his nose
Yeah
And like the girl
He's dating like sees him
And she's like
Yeah and he's like
No no no
It wasn't picking
I wasn't picking
The real surprise should be
That like
She pulled up in a cab
Next to someone
She was dating
That's pretty crazy
Yeah what are the odds
That never happened
That's what the episode
Should have been about
I remember
When I was
When I was visiting New York
Before I moved here
And my cousin
Lived here
Yeah then what
Yeah anyway
Tell me what happened after
I feel like now
It's like
The story's so anticomacting
That the joke would be
Interrupting you to hear more
It's funnier than the
It's funnier than the
Wow shit
Then what
We pulled up
And then
We were on the sixth train
Oh I'm gonna get this
And
We pulled into
Yeah
The station
And like right in front of the
The station
Okay
My cousin
Just like I was on the train
He was right in front of the door
Yeah
And I was like
Oh hey Pete
And he was like
This is insane
And I was like
Ah what's up
Yeah I'm in New York
He's like
No it doesn't work like that
Yeah
This is crazy that I'm seeing you
I hate when people don't
React to coincidences
As much as they should
Yeah
Like
I'm trying to think of
A good example
Oh I meet someone
At a party
Like is your birthday
January 3rd
She's like
Yeah
I just guessed it
I guessed it correctly
And you're just like
Yeah
No no no no
That is a fucking miracle
I'm a psychic now
And you don't seem to give
I just Professor X to you
And you don't give it
At all of his shit
No
And then the worst is like
You guessed something correctly
And somebody's like
You probably just subconsciously read it before
Like no I didn't read it before
How dare you
Fucking guessed
How dare you
I did not read it
I guessed the capital of whatever
And it was correct
That's insane
Yeah
But now you probably knew it
Well I mean if you
If you think you guessed the capital
Okay that was a little bit
I just learned it
I understand that one
I swear to God
I swear to God I didn't know
Hartford was a city
Until I fucking said it
I just fucking made up the word
Hartford
And they were like
Yeah
That's amazing
You uh
That's a
The capital
You got it
Yeah
Bad example on that
But you know what I mean
I got you I got you
Here's another good example
I was in a
Another good example
You just came up with one bad example
I was
So here's a good example
A good example
I was in an NFL pick league last year
Where you pick every single game
And then what
And then
At the end of the year
I realized
At the end of the year
My friend realized
That we had picked every single
Tampa Bay game correctly
We were 16 and 0
To call 16 coin flips in a row
Is astronomically impossible
Like in the mill
One in millions
Very cool
Nobody
Yeah it doesn't
It doesn't seem like a hard thing
Nice
And um
You don't get it
Cool man
If I tell you to call
Heads or Tails
To pick it correctly
16 times in a row
We could do that a million times
And odds are it wouldn't happen
No not me dude
I would get that
I really would
I'd figure it out
I know
Alright let's do it right now
Flip a coin right now
Alright I don't have a coin
But like uh
Let me
Flip anything
Yeah I'll call it
I'll call it correctly
Three times in a row
Here we go
Okay three times
By the way do you know the odds
Of choosing
Getting a correct
Coin flip
Three times in a row
50%
I love that
The look in your eyes
I feel like
An idiot trying to be smart
50%
I got it
50% each time
It's like in that
Breaking Bad episode
Where Walt's like
And you know
The medal we need is
And Jesse's like
Oh
Wire
And yeah the last element
Yeah
Oh the same episode
Jesse is like
Could you like
Build a robot
Or like
Or make something
Make a battery
And then Walt is like
He like stands up
He's like
Yeah let's
Let's do it
Like get me this
This
He's like
What are we doing
It was your idea
He's like
A robot
God that show's so good
Alright here we go
Flipping a coin
You getting three correct
One in eight
Ready for this
Yep
First one
Heads
I'm gonna edit out the fact
That I dropped the coin
You cannot find it right now
We don't know where it went
Are you flipping it
Are you gonna flip it on your hand
It was heads
Heads
Right off the bat
Two more ready
Yep
Tails
Catch it once dude
You said tails
Yeah
It was heads
Bullshit
You didn't catch it
This is just a two hour podcast
Of us doing this
So anyway
Our advice is
Heads, heads, tails I think
What is
Yeah wait
Our advice to this dude
Is just get over it
I mean holy shit
She picked her nose
If she's great
Super fun
Sexy
There's mad loving
She cooks
You are in love with her
I'm trying
Alright let's try to relate
Try to relate
Nope can't
You're an asshole
Yeah you suck
Can you relate
I mean
There are like
Little nitpicky things
Like I used to fart
Around my exes
And they would be like
Hey that's disgusting
Stop
But like I don't know
That's just like
That's all you can do
Just
Completely free to pick her nose
Yeah
At least maybe you'll feel better
If you like
Tell her it's gross
Be like hey you're disgusting
But like tees are about it
Be like playful
Don't be like an actual asshole
Maybe you should pick her nose
Like do you like this
Do you like this
Like go too far
Where you like cut her
She's just like
Oh oh you nicked me
Peter
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
You nicked me
Oh Patti
Oh she is there
What's that
Oh god
You pierced my sentence
Ass
I am an ass
Ow
Oh Patti
You're not gonna like this
But I don't like the sight of blood
I know
I know
Oh my god
That's projectile
Oh god
All of a sudden
She's not too gross for picking her nose
You just
You picked her fucking
Her skin off there
And then puked on her face
Didn't you Daffy
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The fake name I used was Peter
But that's not his real name
So don't worry about that, guys
Yep
Alright
We're about
Right around the half-hour marks
Let's take our little break
I thought of a good thing for our break
I thought of one too
But I don't know
What do you have?
Our new styles and identities
And at Los Angeles
Oh yeah, that's pretty good
What was your gonna be?
The what happened after the live show
Oh no, we can talk about that later
What?
We won't talk about it
We were out with people yesterday
And somebody had suspenders
And just putting them on like jokingly
Made me feel cool
And then I'm like
Oh, this is how it starts
You jokingly wear something
That's sort of ostentatious
Streeter has a college humor article
It's really funny
Oh, joke hat becomes real hat?
Yeah, it's so clearly
I saw it happen to him
Well, that's what it is
It's so many people
It's sort of like you with a mustache
Yeah, yeah, totally
It's like, look at this mustache
Then the next time around
It's like, look at this silly mustache
And then the third time
It's like, I have a mustache
I like this mustache
This is my look
The hardest thing about pulling off the suspenders
Is, well, that mental leap
That I have to take now
Where it's not like
I'm wearing these suspenders as a joke
Because somebody gave them to me at a bar
Or now it's like
I went out and I bought suspenders
I wanted to wear suspenders
And I'm wearing suspenders
But I think it's a cool style
If you like it, then it's like
Your heart is true
I really think it's true
You're earnest and genuine
And I think if you're pure of heart
I think you can wear the suspenders
And you won't be ridiculed
At the very least, you don't deserve it
Because you're not doing it to be cool
You're doing it because you felt cool
You felt good in them
And you like the way they look
Well, it's just like another aesthetic
Of like a fifties nerd thing
That's now like a cool thing
Yeah, totally
And you said your thing is going to be
Sleeve tattoo
Which really just goes to show you
The differences between us
Like I'm like, whoa
Should I get a suspender?
Oh, that's kind of a big little leap
And you're like, I want to permanently
Make my arm colors
I want to forever have colors here
I really do think about just like
I mean, I don't know, why not?
I like the way it looks
It'll look cool for 10 years
And then you'll be an old person with a sleeve tattoo
I think dads with sleeves are kind of cool looking
Yeah, but there are cool dads
But then they're young
But imagine, what about cool grandpas with sleeves?
Definitely
I think I only stay cool
Okay, follow up question
How do you design a sleeve?
That's the thing that I don't
I feel like I can't walk in as a 28 year old
And be like, hi, I'd like
I'd like my whole arm done now
What?
I don't know, whatever, a sleeve
Just have at it
I also have three tattoos
And I regret each one of them
Yeah, that's like a bad omen
It doesn't bode well that I'm like
All right, three bad ones
And then a thousand new ones
That are gonna be good, I think
I'm due for a great one
And it's gonna take up my entire arm
I feel like I'm just also
I'm not likable, so like
I feel like I walk into a tattoo parlor
And I'm like, hey, can you help me design a sleeve?
And they're like, yeah, no
You kind of have to come in here with an idea
I'm like, oh, totally, I'm sorry
I'm too intimidated to go in
And talk to someone about a tattoo
Well, what do you love as much
So much that you would get a sleeve of
I think like, the problem is
Your loves are just like text messages
My forearm is like the tinder flame
And then like
Up here on bicep, that's gonna be my hinge
Like a hinge H
Yeah, and then the okc logo
The okc logo
And then just like the text, like the sms
The text icon is pretty cool
How about like the phone icon with like fucking
Like a no through it
I don't think so
I would just get like just text messages
No, no, I don't think so, right?
Yeah, no, I shouldn't
I don't know, I like
Like usually sleeves have themes, right?
I like, I mean I like
Nature a lot, maybe there's some kind of
Oh, like Yosemite landscape
That'd be cool, I like birds, I really like hawks
So I think I'm gonna get like
Like an Atlanta hawks player
I've always wanted a hawk tattoo
Which hawks but web?
Nice, man
Why? Why are you mad at that?
Alright, let's talk about what happened after the little field show then
Enough about that actually
Should we try to answer one or two more questions?
Yeah, I'm down
You know, we're already here
Remember when we said this podcast would be half an hour long?
True, we were lying
Now it's half an hour short
Oh, bad laugh
That's my new laugh now
I chose it
It chose me
Don't make me laugh, I'm here
Please, don't make me laugh
I can't
Your laugh is Tarzan fucking mid swing
I can't laugh again, no
Merse, ready?
Last question, maybe
Hey dudes, this one comes from
Porky the Pig
Oh, I like this one, ready?
Try to stay focused
It's a little bit longer
Alright, I'm gonna pop on
Okay, see
I need you here with me
I need you here
You're not gonna lose you, man
I'm not gonna lose you
Look at me
Don't say goodbye
Hey guys, I have an issue with girls
I've been described as funny and charming
And I generally have no problem confidently talking to anyone
Opposite sex or not
When I'm having a fun night out
But recently I found myself feeling like the ugly duckling
Of my group of friends
I don't think that I'm a bad looking young man
But when I see how most of my friends are kind of like Jake
And have about three girls at a time chasing after them
It makes me think, what's wrong with me?
Maybe it's just a confidence issue
But whenever I'm out drinking with my friends
I can't seem to hook up with a girl that I find interesting
But my friends seem to have no trouble with it
And end up getting with the girls I try to impress
Is it just that I don't feel comfortable in a club
Since I can't really talk
So then my looks are the main selling point
With a girl?
Is it that I have to rethink how I approach girls
In a club environment?
Is it that those girls that I'm trying to impress
Just aren't the right sort of girls for me?
Or is it something else that I'm completely oblivious to?
Do you ever feel like this, Amir
When you're hanging out with Jake?
Love, porky the pig
Do you? Yes, I do
It's sort of condescending and funny to read it
But yeah, I mean
When you're out with people that are
Much more successful with ladies
You have to like, okay, rethink your approach
I think you're successful with ladies
But I'm not as successful
This guy's like worried that
Oh, I'm hanging out with people that are more successful with girls
Which is gonna happen
I mean, not everybody is great at everything
I mean, it happens to me too
I go out with guys who
Have better luck with girls than I do
This guy's sort of going through
I think what I go through
Which is like, when you go out
To certain places, it's filled
With ladies that is not
Your type of lady
Like, this guy's
Strong suit is probably
Being charming and funny
And it's hard to be charming and funny
When it's sweaty
Loud and dancey
You can dance funny
Dancing, you should always just dance
That's a good advice in general
I think I heard somebody
I think maybe it was Chris Gether
Who said it on the Pete Holmes podcast
But that's a really good advice, he's always like
Just dance, nobody's good at dancing
But girls like guys that are just dancing
And you're not gonna be great
But you're at least gonna be dancing
Just yeah, have fun
Be inclusive, dance
Also, I would say
Well, try to go to some places
That play to your strengths where you can talk to people
Yeah, like a calculus review session
Yeah, that's dope
People roll there, right?
We usually answer questions of people that are like
Lack self-awareness and this guy is like hyper self-aware
This guy is too much self-awareness
It might be getting to his head at this point
Actually, come out with us, dude
I'm serious
He steals all my girls, wait a minute
No, I have to write it to his podcast
Yeah, I think
I mean, also if you're charming
And you can talk to people
It's not always about just
Going home and meeting somebody that night
Start making
Groups of friends and then
You can invite people out
Say you meet somebody, you charm them
Talk to them, say
Hey, you should come out with me and my friends
Maybe she comes with a bunch of friends and on the way there
They're like, oh, you have to meet
Porky the pig, he's like super cool
He's really funny, so then
They're coming in and viewing you in a positive light
You need to expand your circle
Not just rolling to a club or a bar
With four dudes trying to take chicks home
You just show up and
Have more
Have friends, have girls meeting you there
First of all, this is probably where
A lot of people land where it's like
I'm fine looking, I'm
Charming enough, and I'm funny enough
But it's just not hitting
I'm cool once people give me a chance
But it is that first chance
That's usually based on looks alone
And you have to be sort of
It's this delicate balance of
You have to be confident, but not overly confident
Like you have to be confident in your abilities
But also not overcrowd somebody
Yeah, it's weird
Tell you what, man
It comes to me naturally, so like
Just do that
Don't be you, be me
I think
Just trust your gut
And hope that it's the same as mine
But if it's not your fault
But
It's a specific question of
Is it that I have to rethink how I approach girls
In a club environment?
I don't think you're approaching them incorrectly
It's just not going to happen in a club
Environment
Guys that are great in a club environment
Are what?
Tall
Physically
Imposing
Great dancing, confident dudes
Who does well at clubs
Or guys with tables, bottle service
Like spend mad money, get bottle service
Have you thought about perhaps making models nervous?
Maybe that could do
If you were making models nervous
Then you have gotten the bottles
Service
A good place to meet, I feel like for
For this type of person, aka my kind of person
Your dude
A good place to do it is birthday parties
Yeah, it's always a friend's friend
Friends friends
Friends friend is the way to go
Your friend's cousin, your ex's friend
It helps to be funny in their proximity
But not necessarily at them
Yes, just funny around them
Like who's this funny guy who's not necessarily
Cornering me
At a party, just like being funny
Always smile, smiling
I smile all the time
If I am near girls
I'll just start smiling
And laughing with my friends
Because those people are having fun
When you're out, you want to be around people having fun
You don't want people fighting or angry or sad
Maybe it was over the summer
Or something
I went out with somebody
At the end of the night, it was like four
We didn't meet a girl the entire night
I can't say it was Dave
And he was like, alright
We were at Whiskey
We were going to go to Kinfolk, we went to this bar
Back down the street, we walked in
Walked to the back, walked out
I walked in, I saw Dave just pointing at the door
He's shaking his head, like no, nothing
Like a bar across the street
Walked in, took a lap
Just like straight business
Just like supermarket sweep of dating
And of course we met no one
We walked all the way in a cameo
Like four blocks away
And we walked in, walked in the back
There's nothing, and Dave is like, alright
Should we go to Cram Vic?
Which is like eight blocks from there
And I was just like, you know what man?
I think not
We're not putting out the vibe
Nice, cool, fun guy
Who's that guy who just ran in here
Looked around six times and then sprinted out
I think he's my soulmate
This pied piper of pussy
Not how you do it, you act like you don't want the shit
And they give you the shit for free
Swingers
Swingings
Act like you don't need the shit and you get the shit for free
Celebrities don't have to, the rich people don't have to pay for things
It's so weird how that works, right?
Yeah, rich people get stuff for free
Can they wonder why one percent of the population
Has 80% of the wealth
I mean look at the numbers people
Look at the numbers
I'm not even talking about communism
I'm talking about a more even distribution of capital funds
It's simple, it's simple math
It's ergonomic, it's economic
It's trickle down, it's trickle down
Top of the pie, how about
Top of the pie
I don't even want a slice, I want the crust
I want the crust
This is me at the club talking to a girl
Also what about
Yeah, you try online dating for sure
Because that's a great way to just be
A lot of profiles or people who are not funny
If you can be charming and witty and writing
That's a good way to go
Yeah, but I feel like his thing isn't like
Necessarily I need to meet girls
It's like I want to be on the same level as my friends
And I think you might just have to accept that you're
That you're not going to do well
When your friends go to the club
But you guys have to go somewhere after the club
You start saying let's go to an after party
And then you're the one that's charming and funny and cool
That's more to your strength
And don't get jealous, don't get like hateful
Because that's when you really start to fall apart
Right, because all girls have friends
Your friends can hook up with people
And that's just going to mean like
Your circle of people is expanding
There's more girls
The more girls they hook up with the better it is for you
I have to hang out with you more I think
No, you don't
If anything I have to hang out with you
You push people away
And I don't mean that in like
In like some sort of
Oh no, your vibe is bad
Yesterday when we were out
You pushed a girl to the ground
Yeah, she was costing you
She was robbing you I think
She had her hands on my back pocket
Yeah, ready to swipe your wallet
And I said absolutely not
That's what you said from the back of the cop bar
After we were called on you
I said chick magnet? No, no, no
I'm a chick Hagmet
I shoved her
Yeah, you from the back of the car
You kicked out the windows
You tackled your arresting officer
And said you were making a citizens arrest
This is more than illegal
I dragged her down to the precinct
And they handcuffed me actually
Can you make a citizens arrest on a police officer?
I'm going to go
On record as stating
Yes
No
That's like walking into a courtroom
To the judge to prison
That's what you can do in Australia
Excuse me
We got so many comments about
Movember being started in Australia
Yeah, it's funny I went to trivia night at a bar that night
And it was like
It was right after we answered that question about Movember being in Australia
And he's like
This, Movember actually started
In this city
Which is near the Yola River
And I didn't get it
But I was like I think
It's Australia
And we guessed Sydney but it was Melbourne
Oh wow
So it almost helped us out
Unfortunately
We lost
And the podcast goes on
Because the grand prize was going to be enough money to retire
Were you playing trivia?
I was playing it at Harris Casino
You are the 1%
It was a $2,900 buy-in
$6,000 entrant
Main event
Wow, amazing
It was more lucrative than Jeopardy I think
Of course
Absolutely
Nobody's won that much money
On Jeopardy
We're out of time
Let's hit the road Jack
And we will come back no more
We will come back ever more
We're releasing this podcast on Thursday
Which means it's the first day of our live tour
Oh my goodness, tonight
We're going to be in Arlington tonight
In Philadelphia, Burlington, Boston
Ann Arbor, Madison, Chicago, Minneapolis
We want to see you, please come out
Say hi, hang out
And it would be fun to try to
Make it a situation where not only
We get to perform in front of our fans
But we get money
We really get money
It's that, oh really
We really want to get the most
We get to cut at the door
We love money, performing is fine
Traveling is fine, fans are cool
We have money is what it's all about
Let's say you live in Florida
No, we're not coming to Florida
You buy a ticket to Madison and you don't show up
We are the 1%
You don't have to come to the freaking crowd
To buy a ticket, anyone can buy a ticket
This is called, you guys out there, this is called negging
And we think it works
We think everybody's not logging on right now
Buying a ticket
The Madison show is sold out
Credit cards are coming from Miami
The theater is empty but don't worry
Maximum money
The facts are in on stuff
We had a perfect game going
But now it's eBay
So please, yes, do try to come out
And hang out with us, it's going to be fun
We want to hang, we want to chill
Because these are places we've never been to before
I'm excited to see Madison
Me too
I'm excited to be in
Because we were in
Minneapolis
We were in these places for a little bit
But we didn't hang
We're hanging hard at this shit
Don't touch the cord
Absolutely don't touch the microphone cord
So they're static
And then people complain, I read the comments
And it kills me because Jake played with a microphone cord
Holy shit
Let's sign off
This was the last podcast
I don't deserve to be scolded
Like a child
We're still accepting
Theme song submissions, so please
Keep them coming, the first one was from somebody named Peter
And this last one is from someone named Kiernan
Now, it might be the case
Where the first one was from someone named Kiernan
The last one was from someone named Peter
I was able to put those names in my short term memory bank
But don't remember the exact order
At which I received them
So please, enjoy
This theme song from either Peter
Or Kiernan
Thanks guys
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