If I Were You - 546: TV Dinner
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This is a headgum original three two one I just lay down some vocals it'll be
easy for him to like turn that into theme song go upgrade yourself have it to
your own you can be up there leave me back here on the floor go upgrade
yourself
have it to your own you can be up there leave me back here on the floor go upgrade yourself
have it to your own you can be up there leave me back here on the floor go upgrade yourself
when did this happen
you can be up there leave me back here on the floor go upgrade yourself
get on out of your seat and go give a mirror the dirty
get on out of your seat and go give a mirror the dirty
get on out of your seat and go give a mirror the dirty
get on out of your seat and go give a mirror the dirty
get on out of your seat and go give a mirror the dirty
so upgrade yourself
on the other side of heart on the other side of heart on the other side of heart
the experience has all been done and I can't park my car
I don't know what to think or feel that was art it wasn't just a theme song it was an experiment
it was eye-opening it was quite eye-opening it opened my third eye yeah I'm my third eye was
blind and now it's completely open. It's interesting because I think you, though
inspired the song, were the worst part of that song. Every time your voice came in,
it was grating and bad, disjointed, didn't fit. And every time the other guy sang or
did music, it sounded good. Yeah, I see that. So the song was good when he did his
own thing. And then whenever he returned to the quote unquote inspiration, it kind of tanked.
I was amused, but not amusing, if that makes sense. Yes. I was bemused. Yes. That was go
upgrade yourself, parentheses on the other side of hard. Did we sing go upgrade yourself around
the same time? That same day. We must have. I've been DMing with that dude about my punk rock song.
Getting closer. Yeah, I wrote it on my flight out here. The one about me being a senior and your
boyfriend's a freshman in college. Well, not you, just but yeah. It's like a high school angsty love
song. Yeah. Okay. I was writing it. Sorry, I had to get to the rest of this guy. I know, totally.
Just because. Yeah. So that was a parody of Bo Burnham. I can. What's that? I can sing.
I can sing some of what I worked on if you want. Matt Pope is the YouTube channel. So he does
piano and synth of bids. So that's. Home room starts at 8 AM. Oh my God. I'm nervous because I
felt like you didn't really want to hear it. So I felt like I did a fucked up job because I didn't
have your attention or support. The song starts with the home room starts at 8 AM. That's the
pre-chorus. I just felt like that was kind of the more iconic line of the song. I want like when
people hear like it's already like the most popular song in the world. Hi from the past. This is like
when I first debuted the song. So this is like your fucking Beatles documentary moment. Exactly. Yeah.
So what's that part? Home room starts at 8 AM. No, let's hear it because you obviously are
still working on it. I'm still working on it. Home room starts at 8 AM. I smile because I'll see
you then. What's so fucking funny, Casey? You're laughing. I'm sorry, but what about this song is
funny to anyone. It's actually about the most important emotion of all. Love and angst and a crush.
It is funny to think that in high school you had crushes at like seven in the morning. You rarely
have a pre-8 AM crush now a day. Yeah. When else would you see someone so early? It's fun to have
a crush. Yeah. To know that you'll just be around the person you like. And that and getting married
is like feeling that every day. Crush every day. When I go to bed, when I wake up, it's a constant
state of butterflies. Are you getting married? Well, I'm not married, but like, you know, the fact
that you find that person to have those feelings with 24 seven, even if we're just like eating dinner
next to each other. The butterflies don't go away. Exactly. This part never dies. It burns bright.
Yeah, that's the best part about being married. Okay. This is If I Were You, the only advice
pod on the web hosted by me. I noticed I'm looking at my computer a lot during these,
which I can do during the video, like the non-video episodes, but now that I'm on camera,
I'm hyper aware of it. Yeah. But I'm looking for reading the emails and then my eyes just stay
transfixed on it. Right, because it's a screen and you're like a toddler. Exactly. Watching
Monsters Inc. You just can't be watching a YouTube compilation of fire trucks. Whoa.
I'll turn it down, but it's pretty bright. We are getting some classic emails nowadays.
Yeah. This one's about an apartment that this person found, not on Craigslist,
but on Facebook Marketplace. Lots of shit is going down on Facebook Marketplace. I've made
some purchases. I've sold some items. Facebook is sort of just devolving into a Craigslist of
sorts. Craigslist used to be kind of charming in how low-brow it was, but it kind of sucks.
Oh, interesting. Facebook Marketplace has, it's got the message system built right in. You have
to go to email and then text, and then you're also, everyone has a profile, so you kind of feel
like they're a regular person. Yeah, it's great. Sometimes people use Craigslist and they die.
Yeah. You never hear about someone die. I'm sure that happens on Facebook Marketplace too,
but I bought a surfboard there. I bought a bicycle there. I sold the New York standing
desks that we had in the old office. All on Facebook Marketplace. All on Facebook Marketplace.
No issue. No problem. I sold the couch on there. It's great. Respect. I made over a million dollars
selling just my old stuff on Facebook Marketplace.
The desk that you sold from the old office, that's not your cash to have.
What? Also, does Facebook take a cut, or are they just sort of making money from the Russians
for undermining democracy? That's how they make their cash. I was paid over Venmo,
and then afterwards, when I listed it as sold, it asks who I sold it to. So I'm sure they're
selling that info to the Ruskies. So that's making the market their fucking electoral
persuasions towards the general public. Exactly. Oh, you bought a surfboard?
How about you vote for this fucking alt-right QAnon conspiracy theories? How about you storm
the Capitol on that board now? Exactly. So this person found an apartment off Facebook
Marketplace with a super affordable rent in a fantastic area, only to discover that I live
with a 12-year-old and a 21-year-old's body. Oh, all right. He doesn't clean up after himself.
He keeps odd hours as a night guard, but doesn't try to keep quiet, which is perhaps the worst of
but perhaps worst of all is his diet. Instead of drinking water, he only drinks soda and monster
energies, which are often left out, and when he doesn't finish them. And from what I've gathered,
the only food he can make in our kitchen is frozen Salisbury steak TV dinners,
which smell absolutely terrible. I'm serious. I count my blessings that we're in Denver,
so I can cover up the smell with something, because whenever he makes one, I'm left unable
to breathe in our shared space for hours. Wow. So the point where I'm calculating the cost of
buying him a $10 pizza every week for the rest of our lease, just to get some other smell in there.
Wow. I can feel the miasma in our apartment leaching into my body, slowly convincing my physical
faculties to betray the sovereignty of my mind, and to tell you the truth at this point, I've stopped
wanting sex from anyone who will still have me after I brought them home. So now this is my
undercutting reason for leaving my hometown. So this is undercutting my reason for leaving my
whole town. I'm moving to a city in the first place, and I'm running out of money for weed.
Please help. Okay. Those are unrelated problems, I think. Well, he's running out of cash, and he
has to live with this sort of energy drinking Salisbury steak eating dude. Yeah. And the weed
helps him deal with that. It helps, yeah. So you sort of just like forget all your troubles,
forget all your cares. I mean, at 21, it's just, it's rare that you're going to have a good roommate,
I think. Because most 21 year olds are not nice people. Yeah, keeping, or just, you know,
they're living on their own for the first time. So they're still figuring it out. You don't
necessarily know how to cook. You don't necessarily know how to clean up after yourself. Yeah, you
were like 14, seven years ago, and now you're feeding yourself. Yeah. And it's a lot more awkward
to be like telling a new roommate that you just met on Facebook to like clean up after themselves,
than it would be to like tell a friend. But it's a lesson that you're learning because you should
expectation set before you sign on. I don't know if you did that, but when you message about the
apartment, you say, are you clean? Do you cook? Do you eat TV dinners? Yeah, what's your diet? What's
your job? If he said I'm a night guard, maybe you would have been like, oh, I don't know if I want
somebody that works at night and sleeps all day. That'll be right. Oh, no, sorry. I'm a night guard.
Like the kind that prevents you from grinding. Yeah. So it's just the guy being like, oh,
one second, like separates your teeth. I think you're a little fucked,
to be honest. So he can't do anything about it. It doesn't seem like maybe you can make light
suggestions. You know, maybe you could ask him to clean up after himself. It's kind of weird to
be like, I need this guy to change his diet. He drinks Monster Energy drinks. I'm sorry,
he does that. You don't go from that to a sigh bowls overnight. Yeah. So he's going to keep on
doing that. Maybe you can get him to stop leaving them out. What did you eat as a 21 year old?
When I was 21, where was I in my life? I was living in, I think I had just moved to New York
City. I was living by myself. I was in a studio apartment on the Upper East Side. Yeah. So dinner
time comes around. Is it a TV dinner situation? I would, if I made dinner, I would make like
Annie's macaroni and cheese. I did that many times a week. Was that enough for a meal?
A bowl of Annie's macaroni and cheese? Yeah. Well, a box because that basically,
it's two servings technically. It's supposed to be two and you just ate it all. Yeah. Annie's,
there was a burrito place down the block. I think I did a lot of like pick up. On the way home.
Food on the way home. Yeah. And it was definitely not healthy.
Like a sandwich for dinner? Yeah. Sandwich for dinner, burrito for dinner, pasta.
Didn't you use people like crumble up potato chips and put it on stuff?
Yeah. I used to do a bowl of, this was when I was much older actually. I, my palate was refined
and I would do a bowl of Annie's with sour cream and onion pringles as a spoon.
I see. So you would use that almost as a dip. Yeah, exactly. It was a pasta dip.
Do you still eat Annie's macaroni and cheese? Yes. I still love it dearly. It's my favorite food.
So, but you don't eat it as a dinner or you just like eat it as like a 4 p.m. on still hungry
situation? I'll eat it as a Sunday night cheat meal once a month. Oh, wow. Where I'll just have like
a box and that's still enough for you. Yeah. It's a lot of pasta. Yeah. It's a lot of pasta.
But usually I'm supplementing it like I'll have a box of Annie's and a hot dog.
That's good. Yeah. Still the chips or no chips anymore.
In an ideal world, I'm having Annie's chicken sandwich, chips, or french fries on a Sunday
when I'm super hungover. That's, that'll cure me and make me ill on Monday. And then the hot dog,
you boiling it or? In the summer, if I'm doing, if I've got the hangover, I'll do the Annie's.
I'll do the hot dog on the grill and I'll do a big old tube of pringles. I see the tubes on the side.
Do you cut up the hot dog and put it in the bowl of mac and cheese? No, but I have done the,
the Annie's with grilled chicken cut up, put in there with like a side of cool ranch Doritos
as a garnish. Using it as a spoon or just sort of? At that stage, no. I'm just kind of shoveling
them into my mouth between bites. So my mouth is constantly full of something. Whether it be cheese
or the cool ranch cheese or soda. Got it. Yeah. Oh yeah. Are you drinking a Coca-Cola classic with
that? Yeah, ideally, a Coca-Cola classic. Going full, whole hog. Yeah. Afterwards,
are you feeling greater? Like, do you kind of have heartburn now? Afterwards, I feel great. Yeah,
I feel good about myself. I feel happy. I feel like I, I indulged and I did something for my soul.
And then I have dessert, which is usually a banana covered with peanut butter and chocolate chips.
And that also just takes you home. You sleeping great. Yeah, sleep great. The thing that hurts it
is that I always try to work out on Monday morning. And you feel heavy. Yeah, it's hard to,
it's hard to get up and do that. What's your, what's your Sunday meal? Sometimes I'll have
like a Caesar salad. Do you ever have a cheat meal? Do you ever have a cheat meal? I'm serious.
Yes, I do. Sometimes I'll order like a cheeseburger from a, like a smash burger type place and
French fries. Cheeseburger fries, milkshake. What are you drinking? I don't like milkshakes
with salty food. It's too different for me. Yeah. Yeah, I need like, yeah, I need almost like
bubbly water to help like, let everything go down. I can't go straight into like milk with
the ice cream. And do you feel ill when you eat that much or do you feel good for you? I feel good
while it's happening. And then when I'm done, I don't feel great. I feel like it's like not going
all the way down. How often are you doing that? Maybe twice a month. Twice a month. Because I
try not to do it too much. Yeah. Is that on a weekend? No, it's just whenever it's like, oh,
thank God. Ooh, we're out of groceries. Should we go shopping or should we order two cheeseburgers
from a taco place? Does Abital like to do that? Sometimes she'll get a cheeseburger,
but she's usually a little healthier. They mean, she actually likes salads. So like,
that could be her cheat meal. Yeah, that's really cool. But this guy is sort of stuck with a TV,
dinner, eating roommate who's drinks energy drinks. Yeah. And I think, I think I would just talk it
up to, this will be a rough year. You're 21. I had a bad roommate when I was 20, not 21 when I was...
Oh, that's when we lived together. No, you were a good roommate. We were older and we had,
we communicated, you know? It's like, needed you to put your dishes away and we would talk about
that. Yeah, you did have a lot of demands for me about the dishes. Well, you need to put the dishes
away because they stay in the sink and what happens? You get fruit flies. You put a loose
banana in the fridge and are you going to put that in a smoothie? No, because the peel is frozen onto
the banana. So you can't exactly do that. Then you just have the food with the freezer. But yeah,
no, you figured it out eventually. I didn't figure it out. You just sort of kept yelling at me and
we mutually agreed to part ways sort of in a way. Yeah, but it was the, looking back on it,
that was the best year of my life. Why? You're sort of angry at me the whole time.
Yeah, I think I actually liked my roommate when I was 20. College, I had a rough year because my
roommate was messier than I was, but I was also kind of messy too. I don't know. I think everybody's
messy between the ages of 18 and 24 and maybe even beyond. Yeah, and I think a lot of time when you
are 18 to 24 and you think your roommate is messy, your roommate might also have issues with you.
Yeah, and it becomes a personal thing and then the smell becomes even worse and it's just,
I guess my out-of-the-box suggestion is to get COVID because then you don't have a sense of smell
for a little bit, but even that's like, maybe not entirely worth it because you don't really feel
well. I would start looking for a new roommate. Start looking for a new roommate. Yeah, you can
start fantasizing. Yeah. Like, oh, this is cool. Let me get on Facebook Marketplace, see what else
that is. And if you really find something good, you can, it sounds like, I don't know, do you have,
they have like a true lease or did he like move in with somebody? Like maybe you could just,
He joined. Yeah, but maybe, I would say year tops. Year tops, but also I think if you give them like
a month or two and you say that you're leaving and give that apartment a deep clean and invite
someone over and then be like, this guy's so neat. He's so organized. It's almost, it's like
a military. Yeah. Yeah. Also baked cookies. That usually masks the smell. There you go.
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Yes. Yes. I just experienced a really night. Well, actually it would have been a worse situation
that was made all right by the fact that I have made a certain purchase. Okay. Okay. I have the
spinner luggage. That's the four wheel luggage, the rolling carry-on. Yeah, you can like go this way,
that way, because the wheels are complete spheres. Yes, exactly. Right. So it's a very smooth,
it's a very smooth roll down the airport. I used to have the draggy one. Okay. With only the two
wheels. Yeah. But I have the four wheel now. It's a very nice suitcase. Now, I also, because I have
the suitcase and a backpack, I'm walking a long way to the gate. Yeah. But I recently bought a
backpack with a luggage strap that goes slides down the roller. So the backpack sits on top of the
spinner. Okay. Okay. So like where the handles are before the luggage begins, there's a backpack.
Yeah, basically there's like on the back, like so you have the actual pack and then you have
directly on the back, it's like a strip of fabric that you slide down the handle that rests on the
top of the luggage. I see. So you can sort of jerry-rig one just cumbersome wise. Yeah. By putting
a backpack on the handles, but this one is like built to be placed on top of a spinner. Yeah,
exactly. This is, it's got a secure fit. It doesn't fall over. It doesn't slip off. And
why do you prefer it to wearing a backpack? Because you are light, you're nimble, you're agile,
you can move freely through the airport, unencumbered. And when I flew out yesterday,
I was very late for my flight, as I mentioned, maybe not, but I was very late for my flight. Okay.
And I had to do not just like a casual trot, like a jog, I had to do a pretty near sprint
all the way down the terminal. Oh. And the backpack, that would have been slapping my back the entire
way. That would have been like, but instead. Sweaty back. Yeah. I had the bag on the back,
on the on the roller, just pushing it alongside of me and just running. It was like I was on a casual
trot. What's that? Bag behind you to the side or in front of you. A little in front. A little in
front. Off to the right. Off to the right. Exactly. Yeah. I have a video, do you want to see it?
How did you stop to take a video? I did. I was basically hands-free. I just had to
wheel the. So you took a video while it was happening? While I was running, because I was
like, this is so easy. Okay. Is this for your new TikTok, by the way? No. I did make a, I took a
video of when I went surfing the other day, but I didn't have the courage to post it. Why?
Seems like the first one was pretty innocuous too. Well, I'll explain why. Okay. All right. Here's
this. Here's my video. Do you want to show it to them? Or I guess Grimm can get it and edit it in.
Right. Exactly. Okay.
Tips over. A thumb. So the thumbs up was almost to like, I'm doing great. Yeah. It's like,
this is really easy. Yeah. Cause I wasn't running with my, I was basically running and my luggage
was just like floating alongside me. Yeah. I wonder if it can just like almost follow you.
I took my hand off for the thumbs up. Yeah. But I wonder if there's like this new system where
it's like this bag is just remote control. Have you ever seen the people that ride their luggage?
Oh yeah. I've seen some fucking luggage where you sit on it. Yeah. And it's like a little scooter.
Yeah. That's freaking weird. And I took a video of me surfing, but I didn't feel like it was,
it was kind of like a, it's a video of me loading the board onto the car. A video of me putting
the wetsuit on. Yeah. And then you're in the water. So I didn't really get any like surfing videos.
Right. And then the second video was like me coming out of the water and tallying off my head.
And then the last video, I took the video of everything. Yeah. I put the, I put like the
camera on my shoe to make a TikTok with it. Yeah. And then I went home and I hosed off the wetsuit
and board and I made a video of that. So it's kind of like a complete journey. Yeah. But it was weird
because it was like changing into the wetsuit to tallying off the hair. Yeah. It's like, it needed
a surfing thing in the middle. I should have like filmed someone else. That's right. Yeah. But you
didn't get the waves, like a wave of crashing or something. So it didn't feel complete. So I didn't
post it. Right. But maybe you have 80% of it next time you just take the surfing video and slide
it right in. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. I'll make another TikTok for sure. Are you getting any,
I guess, have we posted the episode where you talk about your TikTok? I know. I don't think so.
I think I'm still hovering around a lot. Okay. But once that episode hits, I mean the sky's the
limit. Yeah. And that's Jake Hurwitz, okay. Jake Hurwitz, okay. I was trying to change it. But
yeah, I think now I have to at this stage stick with Jake Hurwitz, okay. Yeah. Okay. Just like
instead of like great or like, my name is Jake Hurwitz, okay. Yeah. There was, Jake Hurwitz was
taken. So I just had to add okay. I just didn't really think of anything else to do. Here's an
email that's not really a question, but it was kind of fun to read. It's almost like a fan mail
about this one specific journey. Her name is Sarah. This is an embarrassing so we can call her
Sarah. Okay. I'm a quote long time listener who has recently started listening to your podcast
again. When you first launched the show, I was an avid weekly listener every Monday and even more
excited when you publish some on Thursdays. Then life got busy and I trailed off maybe around episode
120. That was a sophomore in high school when I listened to your show. And now eight years later,
you've become my go-to on long drives. So I personally appreciate you going over 30 minute
episodes, Wink. I guess we used to just go 30 minutes. Wow. I was so amazed to see that you
were over 500 episodes when I re-looked you guys up on Spotify. I'm currently on episode 21,
The Wiener Game. And holy shit, I can't wait to see, to hear what you guys have gone through over
the years, especially with the craziness that was 2020. Right. So it's almost like this audio archive
of society through our lens. The time capsule. Like the morning after Trump episode would be
an interesting re-listen. Right. I'm not sure how often you read through fan mail, but I wanted
to say that I'm proud of you guys for how far you've made it. Can you believe just on episode
2019, or sorry, 20 or 19, that you were in the rec room for the first time? Remember when we like,
wow, rented a real studio? Yeah. Or not even rented, but like somebody brought a set. Yeah.
To make it sound basically like what it sounds like now. Right. I'm curious how that quality
has changed. Listening to as a 24 year old versus a 15 year old has only made your show
funnier and more entertaining. Wow. I love that. I love Sarah. Thank you. We should listen to old
episodes. I wonder if I sound different, feel different, how different the vibes are. There
are podcasts that I have subscribed to that like do an episode, you know, a new episode,
and then they do like a rewind episode. A classic. Yeah. And they like do a new intro for it or
something. Oh, interesting. So it would be kind of interesting for us to be like, okay, we're going
to post episode 42. As a bonus Thursday. As a bonus Thursday. But in order to do that and make it a
little more interesting, we listen to it and then talk about it before and maybe afterwards. I see.
Like, can you believe I sounded like that, slash said that thing, slash thought that thing. Yeah.
That'd be fun. We should, at the very least, we could try that for an episode. Yeah, because
I mean, we started in 2015? No, it was 2013. 2013, that's right. Which was like, who was the president
then? That was Obama? Yeah. Still president. Yeah. So we went from Obama to Trump to Biden all in
over the course of our podcast. Yeah. And we also started and I was like a single fuck boy
and now I'm married. Remember the entire time I was dating Jill, we didn't talk about it on the
podcast because it was like going to ruin my persona. Yes, your persona. Yeah. And now you're a
TikToker. And TikToker wasn't even around when we started, I don't think. It may have been.
It was musically. You were really popular on it. Yeah, it was big musically. So that was cool to
hear. I wonder how the rec room guys are doing. How's Adrian Grenier's studio? I think it was
on Vanderbilt. Does that sound right? It was in Brooklyn. I don't remember specifically where it
was. It wasn't like Clinton Hill. But yeah, because I think I ride my bike by it sometimes. Oh,
really? Yeah. Adrian. Oh my God, Grenier. Dude. I was in rec room. You were never home while we
were there. That was great. That was just in his house. Yes. So Adrian Grenier, the star of Entourage
just had a huge house in Brooklyn and the bottom was a recording studio for music. Yeah. And his
like recording manager, somebody had access to the studio. Yeah. Was like, oh, I'm a big fan of
the podcast. If you ever just wanted to record here during the off hours, I'm like, yeah, let's do
it. Yeah. This is great. It was awesome. Otherwise, we're just holding really shitty microphones up
to our mouths in an echoey room that sounded awful. Yeah, the teleport. Yeah. Because right around when
we started the podcast, you and your girlfriend broke up and like all of your stuff got moved out.
So it was very echoey. So your apartment was very empty and echoey. She said she quote,
didn't want to be with a podcaster. And now it's like this huge awesome profession. I'm sure she
would fucking come crawling back. Is it an awesome profession? To be to speak truth to power, I think.
We're poet laureates, basically. I'm the Langston Hughes of
iTunes. Play that theme song again. Oh, the mom I'm coming on. Upgrade yourself.
Me huddled over a fucking greasy laptop. Upgrade yourself. It's not even my song.
Here's another quick update, an email that we got about Ivy League emails, which we brought up the
other day, like how people used to have .edu emails. What happens when you leave college?
This guy Logan writes, to answer your question about edu emails, it varies by school. Some
schools like mine allow you to keep your email indefinitely. Some schools give you a special
alumni email address like Yale. I bet I could get another Yale alumni email address. How do you
really cool? My mom worked in the admissions office. So what would it be? We have powerful friends
at that. Jake at alumni.yale.edu. Yeah. How dope is that? That's pretty fucking cool if that comes
from me. And faculty and staff also have edu emails, but it comes with nice perks like you
still get some student discounts even though you're out of school and you can still sign up for
classes online using .edu. I see. So you can, if you want to take, is that a perk? It's a perk
if you want it to like, oh, a free college level course. Oh, I see. I don't know, I guess I kind
of like education, but for you it's sort of like to be bad or something. I think,
you don't like education at all.
So you get the Yale alumni email address from your mom and I'll fucking audit an art history
course. That's cool. And it will be a zoom. That's right. And I'll take the midterm and I'll get a
fucking GPA and I'll get a credit card slash report card from Yale. And a J. Crew discount.
Because I'm a student. And actually, can I get a movie half off because I went to Yale once or at
the very least my mom worked there. Go Bulldogs. So that's the update on the email address.
Good. Thank you. Okay, let's take another break, answer some more questions on the other side of
these messages. Yes. Thank you to Aura Frames for sponsoring this Head Gum podcast. You know,
Aura Frames is sponsoring not just this episode, but the entire Head Gum network, Jake. Wow.
That's correct. I mean, this might be the Goat Father's Day gift. I think it actually is. Yeah.
Yeah, not just Father's Day, but if for any not so tech savvy family member that you need a gift
for soon, these digital photo frames might be the best of all time. Yeah. For me personally,
these things are perfect. I'll tell you why. As you know, I am expecting my first child. We got one
for Jill's parents. Oh, wow. We got one for Jill's grandma. Holy smokes. We got one for my parents.
So there are three of these bad boys in our family right now, but they're great. Really easy way to
like stay in touch with your family. You can upload as many photos as you want directly into my
parents kitchen. It's really nice. Oh, that's cool. So you take a photo of anything, perhaps a baby,
and then it goes to their digital photo frame. This is actually how we told Jill's grandma.
She was pregnant. We got her the Aura frame. We plugged it in. Jill's grandma was pregnant.
Really nice, asshole. This was actually a really sweet moment for me and my wife.
And you're trying to make a joke of it. I was just being goofy a little bit like,
this is how I told my grandma she was pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like she misheard it or
something like that. Or the way you said it was kind of like, could go either way. By the way,
Jill's grandma is pregnant. Oh my God. Jill's grandma is 90 and pregnant. It's pretty cool.
And you told me with a digital photo frame? Holy smokes. And we let her know with an Aura. Yeah.
Thank you. The Aura announcement. So you can instantly frame photos from any device,
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I'd love to upload just a picture of me like at a pool or something. That could be funny.
Yeah. Like your banana or your dog alongside pictures of my daughter. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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Thanks, BetterHelp. And we are back. Oh, here's an interesting one about names. Oh, people sort
of think that we're experts in naming stuff. We often talk about naming things. Your future child,
Ragnar. Yeah, we nailed that name. Yeah. Jill's not on board, but that's fine. It's a small hurdle.
She'll get there. I want to preface this with the fact that you've answered my wife's question on
your show before about what we should do on our honeymoon in New York. Oh, nice. So I'd like to
think that you're both important to be enough, important to be, uh, involved with another stage
of our lives. Yeah. We've just started discussing children names throughout our 10-year relationship
and have had some fun discussions about what they could be. Love it. For some reason, I landed on the
name Luther and thought it would be so badass and could be a really neat boy's name, but my wife
disagrees. I think she thinks it's fine and she has no problems with it in theory, but she's afraid
of potential nickname backlash. Feel free to say this on air, but their full name would be
Luther Lu. So the first thing that comes to mind is Lulu. I think that's okay. I would hope we'd
raise them in a way that they'd own it or not let them bother them. I think your guys' agreement
would go a long way to convince my wife that Luther is an awesome, as awesome as I think it is. Jake,
I figure you'd be on board because the name Ragnar is brilliant. And Amir, to get you on my side,
I will say that I've actually pitched Amir for our child's name in the past because I think the
incongruity with how they will look will be kind of fun. FYI, my wife is a live white dime piece
of a lady and I'm a short nickel of an Asian man. I hope you guys agree with me. If not,
then I'll just say it's been an absolute pleasure being on one of your guys' podcast as a day one
and I look forward to at least one more day. Future father to Luther Lu. Ivan Lu.
Luther Ivan Lu. No, that's the guy's name is Ivan. Oh, I see. Okay, okay. First of all,
I'm a big fan, as I've said many times, of the alliteration in the name. The Hank Hurwitz.
The Hank Hurwitz is what I wanted to name my son and then my sister stole it away from me.
Although you can have the same name as your cousin. Yeah, that's true, but it's kind of,
I mean, it's a little, it's a little strange. So you don't want to have that conversation with
your sister. Yeah, yeah. I'm also having a Henry. I wouldn't want to take that from my nephew,
you know. Another Henry. I love him. Okay, so Luther. What's his last name? Goldstein. Different.
Different. Yeah. His name should be Gary. I don't mind. I don't mind Henry Goldstein for you either.
HG is pretty cool. Headgump. There we go. Wow. I like the double L. Here's what I would say about
Luther. To me, it conjures Lex Luthor, a villain. Yeah, yeah. There's, there's something, it is
badass, but there's something a little bit dark about a Luther. It's like a Lucifer. Yes, exactly.
That's why I think I don't like it, because it seems very like biblical in a Christian way. So
it doesn't spark joy to me. Yeah. I didn't know that was, I guess that's Luke and also the Lex Luthor.
Oh, Lutheran. Yeah, that's another. I mean, I like Lucas Liu. That's pretty cool. Oh, that's cool.
K-A-S or a C-A-S. I was picturing C-A-S, but I think either way works. Lucas Liu. I will also say
that I like Lulu a lot. Like Lulu as a name? No, as a nickname. Yeah. Yeah. Like Lucas Liu called
Lulu. That's fun. Yeah, I like that too. I like that too, Lou. What about middle name? Louis Liu.
Yeah, and then he can go, he can work at Lulu Lemon. The triple L. Oh, well the middle initial
should be O, because then it's L-O-L. And that'll sort of still be prevalent when he's 18. Yeah.
You do it for the lulls. Everything I do, I do it for the lulls, and that's for your son.
That's really good. Yeah. Lucas Oliver Liu. Yeah. Lucas Liu, I think we nailed it. Okay, so I guess
Luther was an awesome start, Ivan. Yeah. And we appreciate it, and I'ma let you finish. Yeah.
But ultimately at the end of the day, it's gonna be a Lucas for us dog.
You could also go Lennox Liu. And then you, the nickname is Lilu.
Lilu? Yeah. Because L-E, L-U. What's Lilu? I don't know, it's just another fun way,
Lulu, Lulu, Lilu. Yeah. Or it can also be like, like completely off the beaten path,
Dennis. It's a mix of Dennis and Dan. I was gonna say Lenny or Leonard.
I was gonna say Dennis. Yeah, no, you did say Dennis. Wasn't that the
For Mean Streeters podcast, Dennis and Dennis? Was it? Yeah. Do you guys ever release that? I
forget. I think we released it in, that was like before we had a podcast. Yeah, it was like in 2010,
we did a fake podcast called Everything Nothing. Yeah. And you guys just waxed. Full episodes.
Like an hour long, right? Yeah. Or you just like talked about nothing.
If it's really good, it would like live in some sort of cool lore. It's like, did you hear like,
they made a podcast in 2009? It's really funny. They never released it or something.
Another funny podcast that you made was, that we never released, and I think we should make,
is the one where you clone yourself. Yeah, that was much more recent. Yeah. That was so.
I have them. Everything nothing. Holy shit. Really? How long are they?
It's a 2013. They're, oh my god, there's 15 of them. 15? Yeah. Holy shit. Play one. Just go to
the middle really quick. I'm afraid. It's terrible slash illegal. All right, here's one call. There
was like a storyline. It was basically like Mean Streeter were playing like radio lab style, like
culturistas. But like at a certain point, I forget what the bit was, but like
Streeter was either like marrying his cousin or like had to move in with me or something like that.
This one's called, they're also 13 minutes each. Oh, 13. I thought they were so long.
Welcome, welcome, welcome. Can you kadoosh to everything? All right, I'm already slowly ashamed,
but I'll listen to that little kadoosh. We made a new way to say hi. I love it. Will you send
them to me? I want to listen to them on my car. I really thought we made like two or three, but
yeah, there's 403, 404, 404. Oh, there's only some of them, but they go to 415. Wow. I should
send this to Streeter and threaten to sue them. Yeah, everything nothing. Episode 123. Holy shisha
Wow. All right, sweet. Thanks for that walk down memory lane.
10 minute webisodes of a podcast that existed in character before if I were you. Wow. We really
should release those. Kadoosh. Kadoosh. It's all because you said Danis. Do you think that was
wedged in your brain for a decade? It must have been. It had to have been. All right,
thank you to Ivan. Thank you to future Lucas, Lou. Thanks to you guys for watching. Thanks to
you guys for listening. You can send us all that stuff between email questions, theme songs you
have, everything to ifirishow at gmail.com. Yeah. We're also still making videos on our Patreon.
We watch Jake and Amir episodes. Indeed. And now we're going to start listening to everything
nothing. And that's at patreon.com. J.A. Let's end this with that classic hit that was a little
hard to hear, but ultimately joyful to listen to. Go upgrade yourself by Matt Pope. Go upgrade
yourself. See you soon. I just laid down some vocals. It'll be easy for him to like turn that
into theme song. Go upgrade yourself. Have it to your own. You can be up there. Leave me back here
on the floor. Go upgrade yourself. Have it to your own. You can be up there. Leave me back here
on the floor. Go upgrade yourself. Have it to your own. You can be up there. Leave me back here on
the floor. Go upgrade yourself. Have it to your own. You can be up there. Leave me back here on
the floor. Go upgrade yourself. Go upgrade yourself. Get on out of your seat and go give a
near the dirty. Get on near the dirty. Get on out of your seat and go give a near the dirty.
Get on out of your seat and go give a near the dirty. Get on out of your seat and go give a near the
dirty. Get on out of your seat and go give a near the dirty. Get on out of your seat and go give a near
the dirty. Get on out of your seat and go give a near the dirty. Get on out of your seat and go give
a near the dirty. Get on out of your seat and go give a near the dirty. Go upgrade yourself.
Experience it's all been done and I can't park my car. That was a hit dumb original.