If I Were You - 558: Gamer Love
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This is a headgum original.
You gotta travel so far
Because everything you want
Is on the other side of art
You gotta fight every battle
You gotta travel so far
Because everything you want
Is on the other side of art
Because everything you want
Is on the other side of art
We love you!
Lighter. Studio catches on fire.
Oh my God! The frame TV was so flammable.
How is that fair, Samsung?
Back in the lab slash studio.
That's right, IRL.
In the same room.
Easier to edit without the zoom when you hang out in the same room.
That was from Rex who has an NYU.edu email address.
So you're either a student or recently removed.
Yeah, or just can't let go.
Can I talk about something the other side of hard?
It's not fun to hear or say.
I understand the spirit of the saying that you mentioned.
I think it's good for a coach in a speech.
It doesn't translate to a song.
Really at all.
Why is that?
The other side of hard is just like, it's grating to hear.
I would want to hear that in a locker.
When you want working out the other side of hard, it's motivating.
Translated to lyrics to hear them sung.
Respect to all of the musicians who have tried.
You can't make it work.
I'm sorry, am I crazy?
Casey, we're in the studio.
Can you back me up on this?
Yeah, I don't know how it could work.
I think it's possible, but you gotta have some kind of magic.
Is it because the way it sounds like side of hard?
The other side of hard.
It's just not fun to say.
I don't think hard is the right word to have in a song.
Hard is a soft word.
Soft is a hard word.
Hard is a hard word.
Yeah, hard is a soft word.
H-H-A is like, it's not anything.
You have the hard part.
That's a hard word.
No, it's not.
It's kind of a hard word.
The R-D, that's hard.
Yeah.
R-D is good.
Trad is a hard word.
Hard.
Hard is soft.
No, it's not a soft word.
I think it's a soft word.
It's not hard.
You're saying it's soft.
Hard.
You're saying that's a hard word?
It is a hard word.
Hard.
Hard.
Way in, way in below.
Anyway, I haven't done a theme song before
writes Rex, but
everything you want is on the other side of hard
was too good to pass it up.
It's a little trite to be fair.
Because
we definitely milked it more than that
actual coach ever did.
Yeah, totally.
It's not his fault.
Good thing to come up with on the fly.
Bad thing to make your mantra forever.
So here's my attempt at
fully realizing your McCartney-esque idea.
McCartney, I don't think so.
Not Paul.
Jesse McCartney.
Andrew McCartney, the actor.
You can shout out my SoundCloud page,
Local Radicals, that would be great too.
We have an album coming out soon.
Local Radicals is a good name.
Okay, so thanks Rex. Thanks to you guys
for submitting. We still need
more theme songs, so now's the time folks.
And it doesn't have to be other side of hard
related. Ideally, it's not.
It could be anything. Yeah.
Like, whatever. Two dudes
hanging out. It's fun to be there.
Two dudes
hanging out. It's fun to be there.
What do you say?
Yeah, or anything. Like, that's perfect.
Just do that. That's better than other
side of hard, I think. We have transition from
Two dudes hanging out. Yeah, yeah.
We're two guys in the same room.
Woo!
Do you have a problem with me?
I
was saying that we
transitioned away from TV
jinglish at
intro songs to like full musical
songs. Yeah. I think we can start
drifting back at 15, 30 seconds.
Yeah, I think that's cool. Yeah.
TV musical. Have you been watching the new
Game of Thrones show? I watched
the first two episodes.
I hear they just used the Game of Thrones
theme song. Yeah, the first
episode, I don't think they did. The second
episode, they did. That seems
illegal.
Why? It's the Game of Thrones.
It's not, though. Yes, it is.
Isn't it a prequel? Like, there's no
the same characters. The game is the same.
Yeah, the game is the same. And it's the same
houses. The same families.
I just think that they're cheating by
saying, oh, here's the same theme song.
So, like, it almost tries to trick the audience
into thinking this is just a new game.
But I mean, then you could say that about literally
every aspect of the show. Like, they're sitting
there in King's Landing. Is it called, like, Game of Thrones
colon dragon suit? I think it's
called House of the Dragon. House of the Dragon.
So, Game of Thrones is not in it.
Yeah, I don't think so. So, they can't use the theme song.
What are you fucking...
Don't hold my hand.
Who the fuck do you think you are?
I feel like we're on the same page finally
about that. Or not.
Because I was like, I don't watch Game of Thrones
and I heard Avi Tal watching
and I was like, I'm like, oh, is this
Game of Thrones? No, it's like the new
Game of Thrones style show. They're doing that.
Yeah, they're trying to
like, earn that, like,
you know,
they want to hit the fan
in the heart. Like, oh, here's
that show you love. Don't worry, it's the same.
But it actually, you know,
I feel like that theme song was also triggering
because season 8 was so bad.
So now it almost makes it...
They're erasing
a mistake. It's like
if Better Call Saul used the Breaking Bad theme song.
Yeah. Which I think
rightfully, if they wanted to,
they could. It just doesn't
feel right.
You don't even like the show.
I don't need to like it to weigh in.
As a critic
and I had some notes on episode one.
Like I didn't know any of the characters.
Which is fine because they're new
but at the same time I felt like I was
being left out in the dust. Did you watch episode one?
No, did you? Did you like it?
I didn't love episode one. I thought it was like
it was a weak impression
of Game of Thrones
where
they did a little bit of that
gratuitous
violence just to be like, hey, this is
that crazy show. Edgy. Yeah.
But they didn't really set up enough...
They didn't set up the characters enough
to make me feel like anything for it.
It just felt like kind of gross. But
episode two
it started too. Episode two was interesting.
I heard episode three gets even better.
The Ring Show. I haven't watched that yet
but I want to.
Jill's making me watch other shit.
Can we watch Lord of the Rings
and she's like, no, we have to watch
Pachinko. What's that?
It's a tale
of South Korea
and Japan
in like the 1950s,
1980s and today
or some version of that. Or maybe it's like
the 1910s, the 1950s,
1980s. Yeah.
And it's really beautiful.
Way, way more like meaningful
and nuanced.
But I'm just trying to watch
a dragon
go ham. Go ham.
Smoke up a Targaryen ass.
Don't blow smoke up my ass.
And if she doesn't watch it, you can't watch it.
Or do you guys ever go into different rooms
and watch different shows? She would do that. I'm too needy.
I'm like, I want to
just hang out together so like we'll watch
whatever we can both agree on
and then
I come to L.A. and I
binge. Yeah, I can
sometimes and sometimes I have to record too late
but last night we got home early and I was able to watch
an episode.
And yeah, what about you?
It sounds like you and I'll be taught don't watch
the same thing. She'll watch Game of Thrones and you'll
what are you doing? Yeah.
Yeah, I'm usually jerking it or like
I'm in the office like cranking it. Yeah, I'm like
or in the kitchen. Where do you fap while she's watching?
I'm either in the office jerking it or like
I'm in the kitchen having like a cheeky fap
or like if I'm in the bathroom.
Into the garbage disposal. I get turned on
or whatever. She's watching it
and I'm like sort of jerking off in the bathroom
or the bedroom. You'll like put a flesh light
into the like your sliding glass door
and between the sliding glass door and the wall.
I'll fuck the front door or the nail slot
so she's watching. And you'll pretend you're watching a loop
but you're sort of pumping the flesh light.
That's enough.
Don't bring the dog into it.
Oh god.
Oh god.
Oh gosh, oh golly.
No, we usually deviate because I'm watching
sports. Where do you watch sports on your phone
on your computer?
Either like she's watching on her laptop.
I'm watching on the TV or I'm watching on an iPad.
She's watching on the TV. But you're hanging out in the same room.
Sometimes, sometimes we separate.
Like if I need to listen to something.
Yeah, you don't put headphones on and just hang out on the couch?
Don't put headphones on, no.
Alright.
Speaking of shows, this is a
podcast after all.
People are in desperate need of our advice.
It's called If I Were You
with Jake and Amir.
Sometimes we record over
Zoom remote. Sometimes we're in the same room.
Sometimes we're wearing the same color shirt.
Isn't that interesting?
And red is kind of rare for us. I feel like we both only have
one red shirt. This is my only red t-shirt.
Yeah, I think so too for me.
Very cool. You know this is the t-shirt
that I actually have two but the other one's too small.
Anyway, this is the shirt that I wore in the last
episode of Jake and Amir. Wow.
There are pictures of you in that shirt but it's green, right?
There might be.
I know there's another thing where I have like a green
shirt and they made it red. So it might be that.
Right. In like Photoshop afterwards, yeah.
Yeah. Or it was like orange
and they made it green or something like that.
Oh yeah, the turn's open to sun is a green shirt
and I think they made it orange.
Yeah, it's a good shirt.
It's a great shirt.
Okay, this is
about
a lady who fell in love on a vacation
to LA. Okay.
You're on somewhat a vacation in LA right now.
Indeed. So we'll call
this lady
who's a famous Los Angelino.
Oh gosh,
there's so many to name. Yeah, it's a city of
stars. Yes, exactly.
Toss any celebrity out. They probably live here.
Yeah.
She's thinking of a celebrity. Like the queen.
No, she's, I mean,
she's dead and in famous.
She's famous, yeah. She's a celebrity basically.
Okay, fine. Do you want to use the queen?
I feel a little
wrong because it was her funeral the other day.
Yeah. So why don't you just come up with any
Actually, Megan Merkel's from LA.
Perfect.
She's in line to the throne.
I don't think she is.
Okay, okay. Megan
Merkel writes, she's from the valley.
Why don't you read the question?
All right.
Don't make small talk
with me. Oh, this is funny.
I'm a 28-year-old female from Canada.
Oh, my God.
She was just visiting LA. Well, that's fine.
That's fine. That's fine. Yeah.
Do you want to come up with a fucking famous Canadian?
Well, the queen did kind of rule over Canada.
Fine, perfect. We'll use the queen even though
it's a little bit in poor taste. Yeah.
And it's important.
Queen Elizabeth II.
You hate it.
How about we just call her Liz? Perfect.
Liz writes, I'm a 28-year-old female from Canada.
I actually met you guys at your live show in Calgary.
Whoa.
I recently went to LA on a girls'
trip for Labor Day weekend.
We had nonstop things planned, hiking,
surfing, shopping,
Dodger game, etc.
And honestly, I had no plans to party
that hard, but lo and behold,
we went out our first night there and I met a guy.
Okay. I wonder where they went out.
Button mash near Dodger Stadium.
Yeah. That's really cool.
It's sort of like drinks and Asian fair pre-game.
Yeah.
You're sort of playing games, maybe one thing.
Yeah. And is he playing games?
That's good. Air hockey.
You're both sort of dueling sombrero
puck things situation.
And then like you do a slap shot
and it fucking like jams your fancy.
Jumps up, chips his tooth.
You guys hook up on the way to the dentist.
What?
We immediately hit it off
and had the exact same sense of humor
and just laughed and chatted all night.
We ended up hanging out the next two evenings
as well and we slept together
both of those nights. Good shit.
Wow. When I left on Monday morning we were texting
but the messages got further and further
apart.
Eventually I accepted defeat.
Gave his last text a thumbs up
and figured this was a fun weekend fling
but that's all it will be. Alright.
He ended up texting me yesterday
after chatting a while. I mentioned that I'm planning
to go to San Diego for Canadian Thanksgiving
and that if he can swing it
should meet me there.
He said that he would like to see me and will look into it
but when I responded to keep me updated
he didn't reply.
Now I just don't know what the next play is.
Is there a perfectly crafted text I can send
that asks whether he wants to see each other
again slash figure it out
or should I let this go forever?
I know it's naive to think
a long distance two nights stand
could ever lead to anything more
but I've never felt such a connection to someone before
go of that excitement.
I realize this would be a grand generalization
but our most late 20's
guys in LA still looking to live
the single life and was I
just some no strings attached
fun? Any advice or input
you could have would be greatly appreciated.
PS Fate on Shuffle has been on every single
one of my summer playlists
that shit slaps.
Minidab.
Minidab.
Good shit.
Shuffle.
Pop it on. Put it on that Spotify playlist.
Okay.
So she was visiting
slept with a guy
a two night stand.
So it was more than just a one night stand.
Two night stand. That means more doesn't it?
I think well here's the thing
like was I just
a no strings attached fling
for the weekend? Yes.
You were but he was too.
I think that was kind of probably the vibe
and maybe why it was
light and fun and easy or whatever
but now you're asking how do I parlay
that into a longer term thing?
Yeah.
I feel like
trying to get the answer that you want
is not going to get you the result that you want.
You want...
Is it like self sabotage to be like we should meet up in San Diego
that might scare him off?
I think that's fine to be like we should meet up in San Diego
but to get confirmation that like
so do you want to meet up in San Diego?
Yes I want to.
That will make you feel it'll settle your anxiety
right now about does you want to see me
but I don't think that following that road is actually going to
result in
him wanting to see you. Does that make sense?
So like she's kind of anxious to be in this gray area
of like do we have a plan or not?
Yeah. Definitely. If she like
tries to concretize the plan
can you just tell me yes or no if we have a plan
then it'll be like well let's not
because of that attitude.
So I think while it's hard
on the other side of hard
you have a better chance
by just being like sweet like
you're going to let me know and like just
if you feel like chatting talk about anything else
because you had a lot in common.
You guys vibed so keep on doing that
without worrying about like but will I see you again
because
you can't until you go to San Diego anyway
so you just have to
keep the vibe alive then go to San Diego
then make it happen.
Yeah it's almost like a candle that can
extinguish completely or
go off. Exactly.
We're piling the kindling on and the kindling
is the flirting
it's the fun chatting
not the firming up of
plans. The firming up of plans
is the structure
it's a wet log.
It'll smother the fire. It's a wet log.
It's not kindling. It's a wet log.
So let's keep on putting the kindling on there.
It needs to be dry leaves.
Like a text that's not about the plan.
Exactly. That's a dry leaf. That's a twig.
Yes.
A twig. Every time you look at a text
you know try to
decide if it's dry or wet.
Is it small? Will it catch?
Or is it a smothering?
What do you think a twig could be an acronym for?
Text without
Oh a text without a goal.
That's twag.
Yes.
And you fumbled the ball
without one.
Without eagle.
Eagle.
That's
not a word. That's T-W-E-I.
Text without eagle,
eagle? Obviously not.
Text without
implied goals.
That's good.
You have to throw twigs on there. Implicit goal.
Oh that's good. Okay.
Text without implicit goals. So it's not like
hey are we gonna fucking do this or not?
You have to act like
hey I'm here, it's cool, whatever
lets meet up or not. Act like you don't feel.
Yeah. But at the same time
you don't know what this other guy's thinking.
It could have been just a fun. He could have heard
oh she's in Canada and
that's exciting because then I won't
have any
local obligations to hang out more.
But the further you go along this road of being like
oh wow she's actually really fun to talk to
you know maybe the text moved to a face time
moves to like him
going from like oh this is fun because she's in Canada
there's no pressure, no strings to
oh wow this is fun but I wish
you weren't in Canada, I wish you were here
you know. Like it's just a slow
burn to continue the
twig metaphor.
This was sent in September
just a couple days ago.
So Canadian Thanksgiving
I think is in October so maybe she can give us an update then.
Perfect. And if you're
listening to this Lynn
oh let's not say her name
you already did. Not that it matters
if you're listening to this Liz.
Where did you go out
to meet this guy? Would love to know
West Side, East Side, was it indeed
Button Mash? Yeah definitely
want to know. Okay
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have any
oh let's do it
oh I'm coming
do this week
it's called
thrifting
so like showing the second hand
second hand yeah
not buying new clothes anymore
is that a
you're all in or like you like a mix of old
and new
I haven't bought anything
I guess I like new
plain white t-shirts
but yeah new socks
new underwear of course
but pants and shoes
pants shirts not shoes
no come on and not pants either
no got no shirts
well yeah well not really shirts
no yeah pants
pants t-shirts
regular shirts
jackets
I think they're I find that they're
better quality
better ingredients
everything about thrifting them feels
better okay here's my two problems
with thrifting okay
one
the clothes kind of smell funny
right when you buy them but you
wash them and then they smell just like normal clothes
yeah yeah wash them on high heat
with your with your laundry
and you're gonna be fine two they
fit weird like they're not normal
fitting it's like this is how people wore
shirts in the early 70s and like yeah the sleeves
are long or the thing is shorter it's not
boxy or it is boxy like I can never
figure out the style of it totally
I mean you have to try on a lot of
mildly smelly clothes yeah but
I think that when you find something that fits
in the thrift store it's really
satisfying you also can take it to
a tailor I have a tailor in the
city that I like tailor your t-shirts
not t-shirts but a
but a regular shirt t-shirt
I feel like most thrift store
t-shirts are better than regular shirts because
they've like been washed and dried they're not going to shrink in the wash they're not the colors aren't going to run
but I don't like old shirts like half polyester
like they're just like made out of
weirder materials I can never quite get
comfortable in an old shirt from the 70s
or 80s old t-shirts to be
significantly more comfortable
interesting and so do you
go to a specific place or is it just
like any thrift store in the city
I mean any anyone that looks
anyone that looks cool some I mean
in my neighborhood I'll just be walking past
when I'll pop in there are a
few near me that I like
and what's been your best find so far
there's a place called
awoke vintage which isn't like
it's not going to goodwill or something it's
it's still a kind of difference
there's a difference between like Salvation Army
and thrift stores right like one is like
$2 a t-shirt and then the other one's like oh this is actually
$180 right there's the curated shops
where they've like they've gone to the
goodwill's they've gone to the Salvation Armies
and they've gotten like the clothes that are
stylish now and you can buy the thrifted
version of it you pay a you pay a premium
for it but
it's slightly better than going to
the store yeah but it's
bad when you go to a place that's supposed
to be curated and they clearly just like
dove through a bin
like Salvation Army and are charging
three times as much yeah
but anyway there's some that are really well curated
I think my best find though
was an old pair of Levi's 505's
oh that was jeans
aged to perfection
the kind of jeans that you have to
wear for 10 years before they look like that
and someone else did it for me yeah
and you don't mind that the fact that somebody
probably died in those pants they don't think
they died in the pants
not really
it's kind of in play how
because somebody passes away
wearing their jeans
maybe they're wearing a hospital gown or more
comfortable clothes because they die in bed it would
be a sudden death situation
if it's a sudden death then it might be
like bloody and they might be stained
yeah or maybe like
some guy was just walking down the street and had an aneurysm
and crumpled to the ground and died
or yes exactly
and his loved ones were like let's donate
these jeans no it's like let's
strip the body because now it's time
for us to praise the body
well actually if that happens if he dies in those
pants they probably cut them off
they probably cut them off yeah
how do they fit if it's like sliced down the side
like that they don't
that's why I never like can get fully
comfortable in that no one died in these
pants they're just jeans
okay and I did
buy a hospital gown but that's different
because it opens in the front
which I thought was
interesting and someone was operated on
in it but they survived
barely
yeah
alright have you bought winter clothes jackets
not this season
I bought a fall jacket last year
but I'm going all in on it and I think it's nice
to not support fast fashion
I'm trying not to I'm trying to do that less
because I was getting too many clothes just like
delivered to my front door it's like
you order two sizes you send one back
and at the very least I
want to start shopping in person and
beyond that I want to start
secondhand shopping better for the
environment better for my body have you gotten
rid of clothes yeah I get rid of clothes
all the time I make a big
pile and I let Micah go
through it and then I take what he doesn't want
and I give it to my dad my dad doesn't want it then it goes to good will
and then
you still have shirts from like 15 years ago as well
yeah I hang on to my
like this shirt that I'm wearing is from
I think I bought this when I was 20
wow I'll buy it off of you
how much
4 bucks
okay sure let's switch
right now? yeah
go ahead
giant tattoos
I fucking knew it
alright maybe I'll
because I haven't done it since like my early
20s the thrift style
yeah I feel like there was a time we was like
oh we're gonna go look for like cool t-shirts at Salvation
Army yeah and it's now it's
more like there's a nice the bearded
beagle it's just up the street we'll go off to work
you wanna hang out with me?
I'm gonna hang out during work but I really
don't want to do after work shit with you anymore
okay
that's
ah shit I'm a fucking migraine
damn you
why did you fucking talk
about that shit
can you read this I have a fucking
what's it called
migraine not
but like
when the colors are like starting to swirl
why don't we take a
break because you said something that was pretty hurtful to me
and you also
appear to be unwell we can
foul her through
why don't we take five
we haven't even answered
a question this act
god damn it
I didn't do anything
I don't feel like I should be bleeding
an ocular migraine I think it's called there's some shit
yeah
why don't you let me read the next question
or something I'll forward it to you
I really will
like computer
is covered in
I don't know here I got it this one
can I ask out a twitch streamer
this is from another lady
we'll call her Zelda
Zelda is
the princess
the lady that needs to be
you're over explaining the name
Link is the character
a couple of details
should I ask out a twitch streamer
that I've been following for about a year
a couple of details he's on the east coast
I'm in California
I wouldn't be much of an ask out
as an ask to do a literal online date
he's definitely single and I'm pretty sure
he is interested in women
but I've never met him in person
he only knows that I exist as a username that pops up
in the chat he doesn't know what I look like
or who I am other than
what I reveal in the chat
I only twitch prime to his channel
no donation or gifted subscriptions
so I'm not an important financial
supporter to his community
but he doesn't have that many
viewers maybe around 80 to 150
on an average day
so he does know my name and messages in the chat
and as an aside I know he does read
my messages because he'll address my username
slash message or read the message
out loud
I feel
like
your best chance for success
there's an in between
step here from
being in the chat
non prime user he responds to your
messages to will you go on an online
date with me something
needs to happen in between
because she's gone from A to C
and there's no B
situation
so he has to see her in a way
an email
no I wouldn't say that
a DM
I'm trying to be nice but the answer is no
he shakes the twitch streamer
the answer is a little bit no
well maybe not
she's a big gamer and she loves watching
games it could be a perfect fit
but for you to be like
you don't even support the twitch
channel financially
to just be like let's go on an online date
let's enter into a long distance
relationship how's that
I like to watch you play video games
how would you like to be my boyfriend from across the
continent so she should donate to his channel
she should follow him on instagram
or tiktok that's good
something where you can see each other
and see if the physical vibe
is there and matches
the emotional
vibe that actually only felt
currently one way you to him
so yeah there's the name between
step why don't you move it to another app
a DM source
an app maybe where there's a bit more
I don't know anything about twitch but I feel like
an app where there's a little more like one to one
engagement rather than like you
chatting and him like shouting out
a bunch of people yeah I've
been dabbling with twitching
again slash now tiktok does
video game live streams
so you can do it integrated into there
oh we should do the tiktok
video game live can we do
it together we can do
well I got a key that lets me
stream from my
computer slash TV to tiktok
directly wow
so I wonder if there's a way for you
not like me and you in a separate
room we have to be in front of my computer
alright so we'd have to do it when I'm in town
but I want to do the thing where we play golden eye against each other
that's good golden eyes not available yet
but it will be soon and then we
can do it that's good yeah as soon as
you we could probably youtube and or twitch
that
we're just not tiktok right now yeah okay
we should do that um but yeah
find us instagram and or twitter and
or tiktok or whatever yeah
have a one on one chatting
situation right you can try to move it to
one on one without asking him out yet
try to move it to a one on one
situation another platform get off twitch
as a gamer
mm-hmm and like I
say this just strictly as
a video gamer yeah I
can't have anything clouding my shit
when I'm fucking in front of the tube like
that what games
do you play Tetris
and you do the mini golf right
yeah I do a very true reality mini golf
and I can't have like a
a girl in my life clouding
that I have to be a hundred
percent all in or I'm all out you
don't have to worry about a girl entering
your life and drawing your attention
away from Tetris I wouldn't
worry about that because like I'm
trying to set up like
what's the highest level you got to in Tetris
for
because then they start coming down pretty fast
yeah and like I'm like constantly
thinking about girls
they cloud my vision
whether I want them to or not
the siren song is too loud for me
and then I can't set up
that alleyway where like one long piece
gets a Tetris and since yeah
whatever in level four you can't do that
you'll yeah level three level
three is my max and I've never been to level
four basically I've gotten
29 lines
man that sucks
yeah
thank you
the easy part is keeping
the women away
at BAE
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we got one last question about
a college roommate trouble
okay it's a twin related question
twins that's right
so I'll call him
David Jeff let's go
Jeff I saw him more recently
I love the podcast and was wondering if you
can help me out I just got accepted into
Indiana University and I'm in the process
of picking a dorm and a roommate
I found the perfect place to live
but my twin brother wants to be my
roommate I really wanted to branch
out and meet new people but I also don't want to let my bro
down should I try looking for
a new roommate or live with my twin brother
for a year any advice would be greatly appreciated
this reminds me of
the story that
Jeff and Dave went to the same
school freshman year oh they both went
to James Madison I didn't know that
and they lived in different dorms
and they would pass
each other on campus
and pretend they didn't know each other
they look more different now
but at the time they were identical twins
yeah two guys
they would pass each other and not even say hello
just so
like if one person saw that they'd be like
what yeah and sometimes
people would say to Jeff hey Dave
and he would say hey just basically
kind of assume his identity for a brief
spell so they would pretend that the other didn't
exist to the point where it's like I don't not
only want to live with you but I don't even want to
acknowledge that you exist in the school
you don't exist to me
and also not even acknowledging
the other person's existence to strangers
because you would be like hi Dave
and rather than being like no Dave is my twin
they would just be like
and then Jeff was like I can't handle this anymore
I'm moving to NYU
yeah I don't think you ever liked James Madison as much as Dave did
interesting yeah it must be
a nature versus nurture thing
I get the
I mean yeah I think you should
just tell your brother that
you don't have to make it about
him you don't have to be like
I don't want to live with you
you just make it about you say I would love
to live with you but I really want to
have like an
independent time at school
yeah did you have this option where it's like
do you want to live with someone or do you want to live with a stranger
I think in my school
you maybe could have like
requested a roommate and they've granted
them and I also know that like freshman
years some people like traded dorms once we
made friends
but yeah I didn't know anybody so I just
rolled the dice yeah I mean it seems like a
totally normal ask and it might be
slightly offensive at first especially if he wants
to live with you it's like you could still
make friends and live with your twin
but it's a little weird to have identical
twins in the dorm the same dorm
I mean I get both sides because I get why he
wants he was like oh it would be more comfortable
than living with a total stranger yeah it'll
be better but you're like well I actually
want the college experience which is to
potentially have a bad roommate yeah
but you don't have to do it for
you have to do it for that long it's all
if it's often you can move
so I say roll the dice see if you can
make a brand new friend
have the like the real college experience
maybe you'll be like wow my brother was right
and I want to move in with him but he got a great
roommate he doesn't want to live with you anymore
he actually wants to divorce you as your
brother he wants to legally
un-twin could you do that
make any different enough
yeah you requested new birthday
I still
I'll still be your cousin but I just
don't want to be your brother or your twin
yeah
were your dorms bigger than this room like our
dorms were half the size of this room and then
sometimes it was three strangers
18 year old dudes
just living in a small
box like this I think my dorm was probably
the exact size of this room
maybe a tiny little bit wider
because we had the bunk beds
over there can on the bottom
me on the top my computer
over there where that door is
Ken's computer here
and then along this right here
we had two reclining chairs
wow that we picked up at Salvation Army
holy smokes
you brought them into the room
brought them into the room mini fridge there
could you do that
add furniture to your dorm
um yeah it was
it was legal video games tv did you get
a big screen yeah we had the
the mini oh wait the yeah we had the mini fridge
there with the tv on top
of the mini fridge wow
big tv it was
I don't think it was big
big tv's cost a lot of money back then yeah
but ken worked it best by so we got it
for a discount holy shit yeah ken was
a 51 year old manager right
you met ken the day before
you were supposed to start college
ken was a non matriculated
51 year old man uh
manager with a family of four
who actually shared the dorm with us
our tv was so small
but like you know
cause tv's were expensive so like we had like a little
small like tube television yeah
but we had one of the few tv's in the hallway
or in the dorm hall
and I remember I started
college September of 2001
so when 9-11 happened
everybody was just in my room watching that tv
but I was still sleeping
so I woke up and a bunch of people
were in my room watching
a small tv that's crazy
and that's how I like I found out about 9-11
wow what a fucking moment
it's kind of crazy too like
you went to school in 2001
and it was so different even three years later
when I went to school for the first time in 2004
yeah yeah by then it's like
everyone had we had like flat screen tv's
in our dorm room and we also had like
big computers like you know
a computer with a monitor that you had to bring in
no laptops quite yet
I got my first laptop at school but it didn't have
wifi you had to like plug into the
yeah and then like the 9-11
like rockier college experience or was that
not college yet it was you know
it was four years after
any tragedy national or otherwise
that sort of defined your first week
at college I'm wondering
the Yankees
blew the ALCS
against the Red Sox
I think we got swept
doesn't matter
doesn't matter
Johnny Damon hits a towering grand slam
in game four no chance of a comeback
I think that doesn't matter
I mean yeah kind of like
cause that was...
George Bush won that year too
that was I remember on election night
going to bed
everyone on my floor
as the results came in chanted four more years
they all liked Bush
and I remember just leaning against
I felt like I have to transfer
I can't be here
I'm too big of a John Kerry fan
to be at the school
yeah everybody fucking loved
Bush at that school
four more years
yep
then you ended up going to John Kerry's school
that's correct
Hunter did he go to Hunter
no
but you didn't transfer to Hunter did you
John Kerry's actual school
Southern Connecticut State University
he's the first presidential candidate
to go to a Southern Connecticut State
SCSU
did we answer this guy's question
it's fine to tell your brother that you don't want to live with him
I don't think you're going to hurt his feelings
especially if you don't make it like
I don't want to live with you just make it about
enriching your own personal experience
cool alright thanks for
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we're reading them as they come in now
you heard us read one from September
that's this month
oh wow I emailed
the lady to see
where in LA did you meet
this guy and she responded
what did she say
a follow up pup within the same episode
that's incredible this doesn't usually happen
this is so cool
wow
she said hey can you not email me here
I just meant to
sort of ask the chat show
and now it feels like you're taking it personally
please do not read
my question on the show
I wonder if we can
we have to retake that whole segment
ok here we go
so my friend went to San Francisco a few months ago
and met a group of guys
while we were there at the Dodger game
she posted a story on Instagram
and the San Francisco guys said
he was also in LA
and to come to the Victorian that night
where's the Victorian do you know that Casey
no I've never been there
the Victorian
oh it's a Santa Monica thing
there you go
wow so they went from Dodger stadium to Santa Monica
very long drive
we went briefly but ended up going to someone's place
to play drinking games after last call
wow the place we ended up at
was my guys apartment
and as a brief update to the below
we've still been texting relatively
frequently
and there are some loose plants to meet up
but it's very non-committal
I'm at a weird place where I'm super excited about them
and still intrigued by just how much we hit it off
but also logically know that there's a good chance
we mutually fade away
again any advice would be interested
love you guys amazing
does that change anything
no I think the advice is still in line
and it sounds like she might have been doing it on her own
anyway they're still like chatting
flirting and the plants
are remaining non-committal
which I think is the correct vibe
it seems like Instagram is now more of a dating app
than actual dating apps now
yeah for sure
you say like hey I'm here, people respond
DM's it's an instant feeder
and then the grid the actual main feed
of Instagram is dead
who's posting just a picture of
me on my birthday
I do it every day
did you say I do it every day?
sorry did you say I do it every day
I said
you said I do it every day
no I don't, I do it on my birthday
my birthday every day
I'm gonna have one birthday a year
just give me the fucking turkey
clearly that's what you're angling for or something
that's a turkey
that's an absolute turkey
you fucking fumbled your joke
the misspeak
there you go
I'm catching you on that bullshit
what about before that
if I hadn't brought that up at all
um it's tough to say
it's tough to say you had a couple good cracks
this episode you might have gotten a golden mic
you sort of talked about me fucking a door
for a while
what do you like that
that was good
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