If I Were You - 98: Underwear (with Thomas Middleditch)
Episode Date: August 25, 2014Friend and star of "Silicon Valley" Thomas Middleditch joins us to discuss technology, fidelity, and stealing underwear.This episode is brought to you by Stamps.com, SlugBooks.com, and MeUndies.com!Se...e omny.fm/listener for privacy information.
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If you have a worry or you're troubled by strife
You should ask Jake and Amir what to do with your life
And if I were you, I'd do that too
If I were you
Was that good enough for you, Tom? Or do you want better shit?
That was palpable
You're crying
It doesn't matter
I had a rough week and that was just
It spoke to me
You were staring out the window that entire song
You were crying before it started too
Yeah, I cried when I got here
That guy's name was Danny Cole
And he says, look me up on YouTube
And his last name is CLL without the E
Danny Cole
Look me up on YouTube
You're as good as he is
No, I don't think so
No
Holy shit, this is your email address
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter
I've got an email
It was palpable
She wants to be in the middle
Are you a good singer?
No, not really
Can I tell you she wants to be in the middle?
I was hanging out with the old B Schwartz
Ben Schwartz, the Bean
Everyone calls him the Bean
Danny Bean
I'm starting out
The Bean
We went to a symphony
We went on a date to a symphony
Why?
We met some people but it's through him
He's got a strange life
And at one point a lady
She wanted to take a photo
And she said, can I take a photo?
And they're like, yeah, where do you want to be?
And she goes, I want to be in the middle
And then as she's walking over
Ben and I, we knew what was going on
We said, she wants to be in the middle
And that's been in my head for a week now
Straight, I didn't have my girlfriend singing it
We're all just walking around the house singing
She wants to be in the middle
Is that an existing song?
No
We just had the exact same song
Up in your head, like the same weird range of tunes
That's amazing
Do you ever, like, fans ever come up to you
Like a comedian friend and you guys just do bits
Past when they come
And they're like, alright, that's fine
Okay, bye
And then you're still just riffing and doing bits
And they're already like, yeah
We're not doing the song
They never meet your heroes
Yeah, exactly
No, I don't even, I don't really talk to the fans
I don't need to
Play that song again
Thomas Middleditch, back on the show
Part three?
Part three
Holy shit
You're a regular streeter Seidel now
That's what they call me
Yeah, the being in street
That's what they call you when Ben on the street
It's true, the being the street and the old Middelstein
The last time you were here was the day before
Silicon Valley debuted
Oh yeah, we did before
And we were talking about the poster and like
Yeah, yeah
And then we did it kind of during almost or just before
Did we? Oh, we've done, I thought the second time was right before
The first time
So we did double before
Like he showed us the photo of the poster on his phone
Right before it was just plastered everywhere
All the way down
And then
The second time was the day before it came out
Right
And then we called you like the next week
Like, hey, we should do another one
And then you called us back from your convertible
And you're like, sorry bro, I can't hear you right now
His personal assistant called
Oh yeah, he's like, let me get Jerry on the phone
They're like, Thomas doesn't do podcasts no more
But then you put us in touch with your lawyer, your agent
Your manager and your publicist
Can you hit 250?
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Hit 250
Like that's Tommy's going rate
That's my usual listener cat
250 people
Which is great
Which is huge
That's a room, that's a theater
And that's what I get whenever I'm on my soap box out in downtown
Screaming away
Yeah, covered in silver paint
The end is nigh
I'm from another planet
Yeah, and now it's post
Now it's post Silicon Valley
Let's talk about it during the break
That'll be a fun little discussion
How your life has changed
Sure, sure babies
Sure babies
Baby boys
Spread your little legs open for me
Both of you guys have such wide sitting stands
You both, yeah, but you're in shorts
Just a modest state
Close them up
You're a conservative little boy
I just, you know, come on
You Canadian
Look at you dude
Take off that hat dude
No wait man, it's how I maintain my fresh style
Brother, you've been on the show
You know how it works
We get emails from people who are in difficult places in their lives
And they email us at a fire you show at gmail.com
And then we answer other questions
Sometimes it's just me and Jake
And sometimes Thomas Middleditch is in the haaaad
Wee woo
Wee woo indeed
Wee woo, she wants to be in the middle
She wants to be you
Wee woo, wee woo, she wants to be you
I'm very excited, I love this
Yeah, this is fun, right?
It's super fun for me
It's fun for us and it's fun for the audience
I hope it is
That's a triple win
I hope people aren't like, oh, what?
We already got enough of this fucking ass show
The show gets better when we have repeat guests
Yeah, because the chemistry's there
Yeah, the chemistry's there and there's a better flow to the show
It's not people discovering it for the first time
The show's got good flow
For a show
For a show
For a show
A flow
It goes
You know
My nose
My nose
Oh, wait
Alright, let's get this
She's a hemophiliac
I'm a mo, Mary mo
Mary mo
Whoa, a scorpion just came out of your nose
Shit, put it back in
I'm made of scorpions
You weren't supposed to see that
Until 2016
Scorpion controls my every move
Oh, dear
Alright
Oh, this is a fun part too
Tom gets to make up names for these people
We're right into it
That's the preamble
Now we're into helping out the folks
Now it's the U.S. Constitution, baby
What?
The preamble to the Constitution
Hey, look, I'm from Canada
You said it earlier
Is Canada to have a constitution?
Or are they just like, everyone just be nice
This is so bad, I don't know
You are American now
I don't think we have a...
I can't say, I don't know
When you study history in Canada
in elementary school and high school
is it Canadian history?
We study a fair amount of Canadian history
I just didn't pay attention
I remember Louis Royale, the Metis fugitive
and John A. MacDonald, the first prime minister
We, we, we
No, he's Scottish
Bite down on this, bite down on this
So yeah, we got a little, we got a little bit
We know that you guys try to annex us
Dude, that was a joke
Relax
I want to say we repelled you
I'm the only Israeli in your Canadian
I'm the only blue blood here
You're blue blooded?
I don't know a blue blooded
Alien, you are controlled by a scorpion
Burn him
Tail attack
No one could have seen that
We should do a video podcast, a tail attack
A classic tail attack
which does 40 plus 3 damage
Oh no, he's getting nerdy
Well, let's see, Jake has a strength of 12
which is higher than average
That's not bad
He's got a fit advantage
I'm playing a lot of Gerps
generic universal role-playing system
I am currently game mastering a campaign
where my friends are cavemen
and they've got to go on an epic quest
to save their village
because the seer stone was stolen
Oh, this is real!
And yet none of it is
You do it during the day?
We try and do it every Sunday
But you know, people go out of town
Once a week, it's not insane
You're not doing it like 12 hours a day
inside
This is your poker game
Yeah, it's my poker game
That's cool
And all the haters can go
suck a egg
Suck a egg
Suck a egg, Hater
You are an elephant
Hater
Hater
Bill Hater
What was that?
Oh, didn't you want to do a podcast once?
That was this game?
I did, I did
People couldn't make it happen
but maybe one day it'll happen
I'd love to do, yeah
kind of what Posein does
with his Dungeons and Dragons
except taking it a little bit more seriously, guys
Yeah, because a lot of it is like
they're just having fun
but this is something about fun
Do you hear this?
Do you hear this?
Your fake nerd voice
You're calling Thomas a nerd right now
This is a guy who says fucking four eyes
Who do you think is more nerdy?
Me or Thomas?
You guys are both like quiet nerds
because you're like
You're like an attractive hipster guy
with your backwards hat and your thermos
and you are like
secretly getting really buff
Yeah, I'm getting cut
Got a cool mustache, good haircut
I don't know
Well, you're
because this goes on
what we were talking about earlier
You're like a counting
money management nerd
I'm a Jewish nerd
You're a Jewish nerd
and I'm like a
shy kid fantasy nerd
Yeah, I think your nerd dump
goes deeper than mine
It does go deeper
and into classic nerdy stuff
But numbers and
actually, maybe Thomas is nerdy
because your nerdiness is numbers
related
like numbers and math and stats
really excite you
That carries over into sports
So you can see the stuff I wear shorts
Give me two numbers
so I want to multiply them in my head
But being a sports nerd
as much as you are
is a little bit cool
because it's sort of masculine
I like sports
I like hockey
so fuck
It's pretty masculine
The only fantasy I'm involved in
is fantasy football
Well, I play a lot of soccer
video games
I play FIFA 14 like a madman
and I go to renfers in garb
So I think I'm edging you out
I'm edging, I'm edging, I'm edging
Alright, give us a female name
so we can answer the female
Trisha Smear
Named after
It's so pretty to begin with
Oh, Trisha
And what's your last name, Trisha?
Smear
I'm sorry, what?
Smear
I'm your substitute teacher
Miss Smear
Alright, Miss Smear writes
I'm a college freshman
who recently started classes
My mom was kind enough to get me an iPad
for a high school graduation
When asked if I wanted a mini
or a regular
I asked for a regular
Although she suggested I get a mini
I'm regretting it
It's bulky and heavy with a case
My college is checking mini iPads out
to us for the semester
and selling them to us
at a greatly reduced price in December
and I'm considering selling my iPad
and getting one of those
It would be more convenient
but I am afraid of hurting my mom's feelings
I really appreciate that she got it for me
but I'm kind of embarrassed
because she was insistent
on getting me a mini and I refused
Should I sell mine?
and just avoid showing her
or would this be rude and disrespectful?
Thanks to your time, Trisha Smear
What an aptly nerdy question
following what the heck we were just talking about
The smallest problem you can have
I want to meet Trisha Smear
and be like, you have the best life ever
This is what you stress out about
Oh, white people problems, man
Yeah
Maybe she's black, I don't know
They sell iPads to everybody, I guess
Yeah, there's no racial divide
between iPads and...
But it is like that so...
That's great
No, she has a problem
She took the time to write the email
We have to give her sound advice
That's fair, let's go ahead and look at it
I think, actually, you could spin this to be like
Mom, you were right
And now she's sort of sitting
My first lesson in college is that I got to start listening
to you, mom
My mommy, yeah, exactly
I told you so, but that's the bullet you have to
bite in order to maybe get to
You fake sell your other one
Yeah, baby, and you say, mommy, I lost my iPad
Can you give me money for a greatly reduced iPad mini?
You were right, I was wrong
If I were you
Why did you say the name of the podcast?
I'm just plugging it for her, mom
For all the listeners, they got to know
You're a listening team
Yeah, that was a station identification
You were right
You could spin it like that
Or just like, fucking chill, man
I have an iPad regular and it's like
In no way too bulky
I don't know what you're talking about
Yeah, they're not that much bigger
It's just so bulky
Yeah, that's the problem with Apple
The iPad is the sleekest, smallest, nicest piece of machinery ever
But now there's a mini
And now yours is big, and it's bulky
And it's thick
Isn't that like the weird...
But that's just like that weird language
Because they could also be like
And the screen is huge
And it's fast
And it's got a lot of storage
And you're like, oh shit, I want the biggest iPad
Yes, you're touching on it perfectly
This is all...
We all get manipulated by advertising
This is all it is, man
You don't need it
No, fuck that
What are you using it for?
Going to class, typing notes
I'd love to see you like, whip out the mini
And type two hours worth of notes on that fucking thing
Your hands, your ankles
I'll type with my feet
Your arm ankles
Yeah, your arm ankles will be...
You're just her broken
Broken
Just like a big stump
Sneer
Sneer
Sneering it all over the place
And let's be honest, there are no Samsung
So you're not doing those swipe typing
Come on guys
It's getting into it
It's always going to be smaller
It's always going to be bigger
But the point is that your mother's alive
And she bought you one
And that's really nice
Yeah, it's good
And to be honest, you don't need it
No
And you've got a perfectly functioning next gen
Regular, fat, clunky, ugly iPad
Which you probably have a case for
You know that mommy bought a case
Let's go with a little notebook
Just an old school composition book
That's good for notes
I have one of those
I have like a Lenovo mega laptop
It's very bulky
But you're talking about
You write it down
I'm talking about like legit pen and paper
Ooh, I love it
Old school
It's classic
It's so vintage
Retro, throwback
Etsy
Very Etsy
Yeah, I mean that would be the jam
If you show up to class
Everyone's got their little note
Their iPads and stuff
And you pull out this like Italian leather
Like hands-bound Etsy notebook
You blow dust off of it
Like it's an ancient book of spells
Exactly, it looks like it's
You get some of the cremuses of other people's iPads
Short circuiting everything
It's got a monogram of like Giuseppe Bonavoni
Italian explorer
And it's his line of like notebooks
Oh, that's just
It's not his notebook
It's not a used notebook
No, he used to do a lot of adventures
Giuseppe Bonavoni
And in his post-adventure life
He makes really nice notebooks
He makes bank-and-buys iPads
Yeah, yeah
And he's got like a
He's got an online store
Giuseppe
Etsy.com
So just take out your big bulky iPad
And go Etsy.com
And buy yourself
Did you guys take notes handwritten in college?
Of course we didn't have iPads then
No, but did you have laptops?
Did you have laptops?
They had laptops
Maybe, some people did
Not for me
I think probably laptops were like
Kind of like maybe not permitted in class
Even if you did have them
Yeah
I imagine that's a very big
Distraction thing now
You have your iPad
Or your computer with the internet on it
And you're trying to like pay attention
To like an economics lesson
I think I had like one class
Where we had
Where we brought computers
And it was like
I feel like typing class
Was 2004 like the early day of Wi-Fi?
Yes, it was like
I remember that once
One of the classes had wireless internet
I'm like, wait, what do you mean wireless?
Yeah, that was the first time I used it
Like what the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah
There's doesn't need a no-wire?
So how does it get in?
How is it here?
No
But it was also good
Because when 2004
Facebook hadn't come to my college yet
So I didn't really have a lot
I guess I had porn
But I wouldn't
You're watching porn on a laptop in class
The two things I did with that computer
Was download scrubs and watch porn
That was all I did
I would imagine for the good kids
Come there to learn a laptop
Or an iPad would be very good
But for the baddies
Ugh
Yeah
Tyler, get off your iPad
So I don't know
What's our final advice for Trish?
I think I'm with you
I think she could like sell this
Definitely spin it as a
You were right mom
Yeah
If you're really obsessed with this fucking mini
Yeah, you could spin it
Also, if you got a good deal
Give her some of the money back
Then you
Then it's a nice gift to your mom
Like, hey mom, you were right
And we actually
There's this great deal at school
I was thinking of selling the bigger iPad
Getting this one for cheap
And giving you the extra dough
If your mom is
I mean, if your mom's a reasonable person
Like, as if
As any woman is
Any mother
Yeah, you could maybe sort of
Talk to her like that
Just how we did
Two rational men
Yeah, talking to each other
Alright, so we're all in favor
Of selling your iPad
Getting the mini
I don't know
I am actually not
I love my iPad regular
And I don't know what you'd want
It's a little too big
Why would you want a mini?
It's a little too big
It's not
Just wave to her
Post me on her name
And deliver two boxes for you
We got two boxes at the door
Should I go grab them?
Let's see what they are
Yeah, sure, why not?
We just hear a huge explosion
See them where they are
On the podcast
Yeah
Sass it all over my face
It's the Bjork Stalker
We should do a separate iPad
Or separate podcast
Where we just talk
Until the mail comes
And then we go through the mail
It's called Waiting for the Mail
With Tommy and Amir
Oh, well I'll be damned
It's a mail box
There's George and Amir
They're both for colleagues
Oh, open them
That's our neighbor
We can open them
Open them
Ooh, a dildo
I love this
It's a little big and bulky
She should get the dildo mini
Alright
Question number...
Question number Deuce?
Deucees
We need another female's name
Maureen Pavlanovich
Wow, this girl's hot
I don't really...
She has a goddamn smoke show
Right up Amir's head
Pavlanovich?
Eastern European dude?
Give me some mo
Give me some mo at my mouth
Hey guys
My boyfriend and I have been dating for seven months
He's the first nice guy I've ever dated
We met in college
I graduated in May
And my boyfriend still has two years
Everything was going great
Until I noticed he was covering
Slash tilting his phone
When he was on it
I got suspicious
So I broke relationship advice
Don't snoop
He left his phone at my house one night
And his phone kept getting texts
I couldn't resist
So I looked
The text was from a girl
And the past messages from a month ago
Had provocative conversations
With him being the initiator
I confronted him about the messages
He begged me not to leave him
He said he'll never do it again
And he realizes how important I am to him
Do you think I should give him a second chance?
If so, how can I trust him again?
Let's all answer with a yes or no on three
Ready?
Should I give him a second chance?
Yes or no?
One, two, three, no!
Are you serious?
Why, dude?
It's because you haven't been down this road
Just texts
Just texts?
That's it
You know what?
I'll say that she didn't break relationship
Rule number one
Don't snoop
Relationship rule number one is don't cheat
He broke it
You think he cheated by texting a girl?
I think he had an emotional affair
I also like who knows
Who knows
Like if it leads to anything more than that
Who knows?
Yeah, I guess she doesn't know
I mean, look
It is, it is, you know
I suppose you could argue
I don't know the extent
You don't know the extent
Maybe it was like hundreds of messages
And it was really intense and stuff like that
Then that's something
If it was like
Yeah, I would have
I'm in a relationship
You know, you're very great
Maybe in another life
That's not that bad
You don't know the extent
But I gotta be honest
If he's gone down the road
But now he's so bad and he's so scared
Find another dude, honestly
It had been like a
It was prolonged behavior
It wasn't just like a one conversation
Like, oh man, I shouldn't be doing this
Like we're done
It was like
He multiple times initiated
A steamy conversation with someone
Who was then texting
Like many times throughout the night
When he left his phone
Wow, she was there too
Because he's shielding
That's my cold dog
Shading is cold, man
That's the sneak that don't look
You'd never want to be doing that
As soon as that happens
She's got to remind herself
That that dude's still in college
Oh, that's another thing
She's two years older than him
He's still in college and she's not
Yeah, or maybe he's a late bloomer
In college late
But either way, he's in college
For a couple more years and she's not
She should be focused on getting herself a job
And herself a career that she liked
That's right
You know you got to
You know, come on
Come on, yo
Boy, if it could suck an egg, man
Well, yeah, I'm proud
He's just got a brand new spanking degree, man
She's got the world
He's the first nice guy ever dated
He only cheated on me
Yeah, imagine what the mean guys did to her
Watch out for the nice guys
We're tricky
We're lying, we're all scorpions
We're a little tricky
We all go through phases
You know, we're all young at one point
Can you be a nice guy and still do this?
Or does that mean he's not a nice guy?
Yes
You could still be a nice guy
And be a rotten bastard
But does that mean you're a nice guy?
Yeah
Or you're just better at disguising it
You just like don't know how to like
Confront your feelings on women
And maybe you want to still be a nice guy
But also want to be a bad boy
You're conflicting
These guys have evil tendencies
I mean, he could donate to charity
And then send illicit text to a stranger
Or something
I think if he's a nice guy
And this is the worst he's ever done
And he feels so bad, slash
When you feel bad
You just mean you're scared straight, basically
He's basically too afraid to do it again now
But that's not the relationship you want to be in anyway
Yeah, also it's going to matter
How she's going to conduct herself moving forward
Like are you going to be able to trust him?
If he says I won't do it again
It won't happen again
Are you going to be like, okay
And live your life and be calm and present
Or is she going to be like always like
What's his phone say now?
Yeah, like his phone's just buzzed
What's he typing right now?
This stress is now forever going to be part of it
And to be honest, this is dark
But like when you've been taken back
There's part of you that feels like
Oh, I can probably get away with this again
Oh, like you can get off to the back
Or you feel like this person's weak
And like, because if that had happened to me
I'd have been like, fuck you, get out of here
From a text message conversation?
Depends, I don't know the actual texts
But yeah, if I caught my sweet, sweet tender love
Girlfriend
And I saw like a steamy text
I'd be like, yo man, it'll be bad news
You gotta go
Maybe, I don't know
That's what I'm saying, one night of steamy texts
Maybe, I don't know, who knows like
All I'm saying is if it happened multiple times
Several different initiated text conversations
With this girl
But with one girl
Yes, fuck that of course
I changed my opinion to be adamantly
Fuck that, don't give him a second chance
Multiple times
Shielding his phone, texting some other girl
Maybe that's how he gets off
Yeah, great, that's how he gets off
He should be in an open relationship
I'll never be with a girl, Saul, just text
It's sort of like a sex chat
There's plenty of people like that
And more power to them
I'm not saying you should be condemned for having a thing
I'm just saying you should maybe be honest when you're doing it
Yeah, he hid it from her knowing it would hurt her
And then still did it but decided to hide it
And then couldn't hide it anymore but now it's hurt her
He was a dummy for sure
He was hiding, still is a piece of shit
Nothing's changed, he's a nice guy
He doesn't need to be persecuted
Again, we're all, we all go through the phases
Have you done this?
Yes
You've done the text while in a relationship
Uh-huh, and it's bad news
And you get out of it and you're like, wow, I hurt someone
I really, I learned a valuable lesson
He needs to learn his lesson
When that's happened to you, did you feel like you deserved a second chance?
I begged and pleaded and sometimes I got it
And guess what, I was like, oh this person's weak
I don't, I don't, don't give him a second chance
No second chance is ever
It's like being grounded
When I was little I would get grounded all the time
But it never really stuck
So I never really learned consequences
Yeah
To my, to my actions
Yeah
So what should your parents have done, break up with you?
If they had kept me grounded
I'd be, I'd be different
So thanks mom and dad, I love me
You put me on a leash so loose
I could do whatever the fuck I wanted
You told me there was an electric fence
But there wasn't, that ran into the woods
Is it still considered a leash if it's the diameter of the entire fucking earth?
You might as well not be wearing anything at this point
Well I'd say to the lady, don't worry there's gonna be other dudes
And there are nice, other nice guys
And to the guy, hey you messed up, one day you'll learn your lesson
And one day hopefully you'll be like Jake and I
Who are reformed baddies and now are hell bent on being goodies
Yeah, okay, alright so
Well said
So you got two, two hell no's
And one, maybe so
And I think that's okay
It's your soft amir
The weirdest thing is that like this guy did something that you would never do
Give him another chance
And this guy did something that me and Tom would have done
And we're like fuck him
But that's because we know in those situations
We didn't deserve another chance
No
And you've never been in that situation
That's the thing with life
If you end up being a scoundrel and a baddie
You've chosen, you chose to shoot the guy
Now you gotta go to jail
Yeah
Sorry
Yeah
That's what you get
That's what happens
I agree and this isn't like choosing, this isn't like a heat of the moment
Crime of passion
Like this guy just said something awful and now I shoot him
It's like a well planned
Yeah
Like nightly ritual of texting someone
Obviously he's conflicted, he's pulled multiple different ways
You know, that's not his fault
But his fault is him not sort of stepping up to the plate
And being doing the right thing
Doing the right thing starting
Meg Ryan, Kim Basonier
And Tom Barringer
Where is he?
He should be in my movie
He was an inception
What was he an inception?
Tom Barringer
God, I like
I can't keep up with your brain
After McCoy's, you see that shit?
He was the best part
Barringer
Who's Barringer?
Barringer, he's in one of the families
But he's just sort of strong, silent
Sort of like, oh man, we gotta go get him
If you wanna get him
Like spit now
Was he the one that was like, don't...
We'll talk
We'll talk
We'll talk, we'll gab
Should we go to the third question?
Was there a break?
Should we talk?
After the third question
Yeah, let's do one more question
Then break it up
Break it up
Break it up
Break it up
Whoa, is this another...
Oh no, we got it guys
We got a dude
We got a dude
We got a dude, dude
Give me a doo doo name
Oh, doo doo name
Shit
Xavier inch practice
Inch practice?
Inch practice
So is that one word or is it like
It's the last name, inch practice
Like a stout British name, compound name
Xavier inch practice
Right
Actually, do you wanna read it in a British accent?
I'd love to
Did you see that animation?
You did the South Park animation of you
Reading that question
That was great
Isn't that amazing?
What a treasure
What cool fans
That's really cool
That's nice
Dear sirs
I'm a 21 year old guy in college
With an unusual problem
I like the punctuation already
I have never had a girlfriend
Or even been on a date
I had my first kiss
Now I understand why
Poor guy
Okay, I know a dude like this
Okay, I don't know
I don't think I'm unattractive
It's just that I'm a coward
With no guts to ask a girl out
And I also don't meet very many girls in my social life
As I'm a huge nerd
Bre John
As such, I have two questions
One, how can I man up and gain the balls
To ask girls out
Even though I have no experience
And two, how do I deal with girls
Who will think it's weird that I'm 21
And have never even been on a date
Two A's
So maybe just a brief spell check before you send it in
Can you help me with this conundrum
Or should I resign myself to a life of loneliness
And drowning my sorrows in Mike's heart lemonade
Sincerely, Xavier, in practice
First man, get in the beer
Oh my god
Take a girl out for a Mike's heart lemonade
Aww
Did you have a girlfriend by age 21?
No
I lost my virginity when I was 19
And then scrambled to play catch-up
So that's why I was a bastard
I was like, I've done it all wrong
I'll use women from now on
A girlfriend, a real girlfriend at 21?
No, I mean I had a couple like, pseudo's
Right, so 21 is not terribly late
There's still time to turn things around
Yeah, I wouldn't beat yourself
I think there's
I think you'd be surprised about how many people are in your position
I think society and sort of
Like, I don't know, culture puts a lot of emphasis on like
Early sex, early experiences, living hard, die young
But I don't think many
I think you'd be surprised about how many people don't do that
Yeah
So what can he do?
How can you ask a girl out
And how can you gain the balls
And how can you do that?
What about online?
Isn't that an easy way to do it?
Then you don't have to actually physically talk about it
Tender, tender, tender, tender, yeah
But if you do stuff like that, if you do online
Cause online is a great resource
It's linking people who normally don't go out to bars for example
I'm not a bar guy
I never met any girls from bars
I met girls after comedy shows or like online
Right
You just gotta be realistic with your tender
When you tender
Don't swipe like Barbies and hot girls
You know you're never gonna have anything in common with
Oh, you gotta match the girls that would like you
Yeah, if you're a nerd and like
Gerps
Like myself
Swipe right the Gerps
Swipe up the nerdy artsy girls
Who look like they might like Gerps
Or at least be open to liking Gerps
If they don't know about it
That's a good tip
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's online only
Cause I see a lot of people that do
They're like, yes, all that girls
So I'm like, buddy
They're just matching the spots
Never gonna happen
Yeah, exactly
Dude, I'm matching four chicks
And they all got cam shows tonight
How's your Sunday looking?
Loser
I'm alt-tabbing all night
Multi-tabbing
Mike's hard
Jurgant
Drinking one
Using the other
I'm not gonna say which
But I am butt-jugging Jurgant
Yeah, I chose that question I think
Cause you also
You blossomed very late
You're like, you're peaking right now at 31
Yeah
So
At 21 I was also a nerdy dude
But we didn't even have
Online dating back then, right?
Wasn't there?
We didn't get girls in like weird
Like AOL chat rooms and stuff
But I don't think there was anything
That was real
There's definitely no like
Yeah, there's nothing like there
Meeting girls online for me
Came when MySpace sort of was big
Oh
So you were doing it even in like 06
Yeah, I was like, I don't know
23, 24, 25
You can meet people on MySpace
It's not just friends
Dude, MySpace was rad
Now it's all bands
But like you could go like
I'm searching for female, single
Within this age range
Within this height range
Within this weight range
Whatever they put into their profile
You could sort of like
That's pretty awesome
It was a
It was a party palace
MySpace
MySpace used to be the place
It's kind of a bummer
No, it's not anymore
I'm completely devoutly in love
But still whatever
But my god
I'd love to search all these people
In this zip code age range, height range
Weight range
I asked it myself as an absolute maniac
As a total psychopath
5'7", 131 pounds
Scar above her right knee
Oh, there she is
MySpace has categorized life
And I can see in a database
Everybody that I want
Yeah
I would say to this dude
A, don't worry about it
Like you fretting about it
Is kind of like bad
That's what I was going to say too
He has a self-defeatist attitude right now
Yeah, he's afraid
I don't think he needs to bring up
To any girl that he goes out with
That it's his first date
Or that he's never had a girlfriend
Yeah
Just like go out
And you're a guy
And you have hobbies and interests
And that's good enough
And you don't have to be like
Nobody cares
I don't think I've ever gone on a date
And been like
So who else have you dated?
Have you dated any other people?
I would actually rather not know
That can be a fact
That you share later on
Like if you guys hit it off
Like be like
Actually, you know
Whatever
That's when you're comfortable
And you're talking, you're chatting
Yeah
But the thing is
Once you hit it off
And you're like
Actually, you really like cute smile
And they never had a girlfriend
They're like, oh my god
I want to be your first girlfriend
Or like work for you
I've never had a boyfriend
And they can be part of
Like a quirky, cute romantic comedy
Where it's like two shy people
Meet each other
Under the veil of night
Never being
That's true
Never being out in the day
There are shy, nerdy girls too
We've never had boyfriends
I was just gonna say
We're current
We are fortunate enough to live in
In an age where you can find
What you like and what will like you
That's the big thing I learned
Actually out of getting out
Of high school
Of that microcosm world
Where you're forced to be with this
Like, well for me
A small town crew
That is like, they're the same
Yeah
And even out of college
Is like, you can find your people
If you don't even like the idea
Of going online
You go to whatever
Like here in Los Angeles
You're gonna melt down comics
And like, meet your girls
Who are into comic books
And comedy shows
Stuff like that
Or you go to wherever
That you think like-minded people
Will go to
Or you find them on the internet
You can find your tribe
And then you'll see
All that like crazy anxiety
Goes away
Cause right now he's probably
Looking at like Vanessa Smear
Trisha's sister
Super hot sister
When she-
The smallest iPad of all
Yeah, she's got the super smallest iPad
It's an iPad Nano
And she's like a sorority girl
Or whatever
I don't know man
I'm probably judging unfairly
But like he's maybe looking at
Just the wrong type of me
Like I'll never get that
I wanna be like
I wanna be like Jake Hurwitz
I can't
You're not Jake Hurwitz
I'm not Jake Hurwitz
No one can be him
He's a guy
I'm not even Jake Hurwitz
Jake looks at himself in the mirror
And goes, who are you?
No one knows
I wanna be you
And then he reaches towards the mirror
And he's disappointed every time
That his fingers reach the glass
Yeah
And then he goes through
And then he's in Narnia
And then Mr. Tumnus is like
Would you like some porridge?
Dear old Tumnus
Tumnus
Tumnus
I mean he sees strangers into his land
And that little Seder
Welcomes them into his home
Seder
Yeah, it's a Seder
S-A-T-Y-R
Oh I see
I thought it was a Seder
Like a Passover Seder
No dude
Yeah
Man, wait a fucking Jew it up man
Jesus Christ
Can we have one conversation?
He's Jewed up everything I do
You're talking to two wasps
Yeah man
You guys are flying
So online
And don't tell anybody
Well not don't tell anybody
Like it's a secret
But just like that doesn't
Yeah, it doesn't have to
That's not who you are
It's not like
That doesn't have to define you
Right
Yeah, yeah
Some of many other experiences
I was talking about like
Sort of like life after college
Life after school
There is that ability
To find your people in college especially
You can find it
I'm sure there's a million social activities
That aren't like froth and stuff
Like you can go watch obscure movies
Here are nerdy things to do
Watch the cool obscure movies
Rent movies from a library
Would be a nerdy thing to do
If you were to rent a VHS
Or a DVD from a library
Yeah, Magic the Gathering Clubs
Probably those are a bunch of other dudes
But I don't know
There are things
There are people
You know what?
You know what's strange?
And I did this when I was in Los Angeles
Before all this
Before Zola Valley
Before all this shit
And I had no friends
I went on meetup.com
Wow
It's like
I'm plugging this thing
But like there are
Other social sites like this
Where it's not about like dating
It's like events
And you sign up to be part of the group
That tells you about events
And you can kind of do like
Groups that have like a certain wheelhouse
Like there's like
You know nerdy cool stuff
That you can
So what was the meetup that you went on?
I went on there to find a
Pick up soccer game group
Oh that's pretty cool
Which is like super cool
And like a total job
But because I wanted to play
I just wanted to play soccer
But there was like
Cool nerdy stuff to do
There's all kinds of shit
And you can just get on these little groups
And get told about it
In your area
meetup.com
It's convenient, it's easy
It's free, it's meetup.com
I just got paid
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Oh my god
Come fuck yourselves
So that means we only have to oil you 50
Oh is that not how it works?
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Alright, Silicon Valley
Has your life significantly changed
Since the show came out
Or is it more or less the same?
It is a bit of both
One, it's the same in that
Nothing I do day to day
Changes really
I still do all the stuff
For a while I was very, very busy
Now it's chilled out
And I'm waiting for season two to kick off
The main thing that's changed
Is that strangers will come up
And say, hey, good job
Which is great
I love that
Sometimes it's like a lot
And unexpected places
Like some bar in the middle of Louisiana
People are like, I made a lot of your show
And I'm like, really?
Why?
You're watching HBO
Just right after Game of Thrones? You?
But you know, it's been pretty cool
So if there was a documentary made about your life
24 hours last year and then 24 hours this year
Is it noticeably different?
You would take today?
No
Because you did this podcast
Well, I mean, almost
I'm still like, you know
Spend a lot of my days
Either playing video games
Writing or doing whatever
I mean
Yeah, when is season two?
Here's what's changed
I'll go to fancy Hollywood parties
That they just send a bunch of e-vites out
To get people to come
So they want stars to be there?
Stars of teenagers
I've gotten like ten times more suits
Oh, that's fun
I have like a stylist now
And they make me suit
And stuff like that
That's cool
I have a publicist
Although I haven't used her
They're just like someone there
Just in case
Just in case something goes really wrong
Just in case you know me
I go in my math bandage
Well, how does a stylist work?
A stylist will say
Okay, so for the Emmys
I'm going to the Emmys
Sunday
Monday
Oh, shit
That's the day this episode comes out
Cool
Watch the Emmys
Watch the Emmys and come
Listen to Jake and Amir
Ifirium.com
The stylist will be like
Hey, I'll go meet her
She'll have a ton of suits
From all these different companies
Like whatever
CK, Valentino
They'll have a range of like
Juju
Juju
La faconable
La faconable
La cantonelle
And la poupée
Poupée's suits
Yeah, they're just
It's like you're not wearing anything
It's like incredible
A lot of it is
You're actually not wearing anything
Yeah, it's just a tie
You're just trying to find
Like, you know, an agreeable style
You know
Do you have to pay for it?
Um, typically
So they're like
These one
I believe for a couple of these events
She's been hired through
HBO, so HBO's
Helping me out
Oh, that's awesome
Which is very kind
So HBO wants you to look good
You're gonna be on a TV show
Oh my God, be with HBO
Because you're the best
So like we'll pay for your suit
Because we want you to look good
Because you're a fucking schlub
And otherwise you'll show up
And sweat pay up
We don't show this to you
I got a tie on
Um, so that'll happen
Occasionally we'll get like
Free stuff
Like magic
The Gathering, for example
Heard that I played magic
I played magic
The Gathering, for example
Heard that I played magic on set
And then sent me a box full of magic cards
Wow
But you don't play magic
I play it from time to time
I'm very grateful
Thank you, Wizards of the Coast
But, um, you know, things like that
You get a couple free things here and there
That you're like
Oh, I wouldn't have gotten this
When I was poor
But now I can have a chunk of change
Then there you go
Which is ridiculous
And part of what I want to do
And what about new professional opportunities?
Are there more like auditions coming your way?
Career-wise, it's been
That has been a total game changer of the show
Not that I'm like
Going to be on Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Right
It's just that like
People that wouldn't even consider
Holy shit
Yeah, man
I'm actually Chris Pratt bowed out
Weird
You just didn't want to do anymore
So sick
I was like, it's such a successful movie
He's like, I don't like it
So I was like, I'll do it
I could bulk up
Um, things like that, like, you know
I'm just at least in people's eyes
A possibility to be cast in X-Roll
Or Y-Roll
That's awesome
So that's been cool
When do you get offered parts versus audition?
The only parts I've been offered are like
Parts in movies
Where people I've never heard of are involved
Oh, so you still have to audition
Like $5,000 budget and stuff like that
I still mostly have to audition
But I don't mind that
I kind of don't mind auditioning
Really?
I mind proving myself
It's clutch
I like clutch situations
Well, that's cool
It's sort of like the closest you can get
To like being an athlete as an actor
Yeah, I'm draining trades
Like a pressure situation
The quarterback wants the football
Give it to me
I'm the exact opposite
You're the guy who's like
Just tries to stay next to his defender on basketball
I was like, no, I'm sort of covered
Don't pass it to me
As long as I'm, as long as I didn't
Fuck anything up on behalf of you
Yeah
I want to be on the court
I want to be the Christian Leitner
On the dream team
We won
I was on the team
Didn't play
But I didn't ruin things either
Yeah, that's good
I want to be the John Stockton
Six feet tall
And white
That is
I'm so close
That's just one inch taller than you are now
But imagine
Imagine, your imagination knows no bounds
Imagine, one inch taller
A Stockton-esque six feet
Get bigger shoes
No, it's not that easy
He's six feet tall, barefoot
Doc Martins
Oh, that could work
All right
So when does season two start?
We're going to start filming end of October
Oh, shit, that's soon
Yeah, and then we'll go to the end of January, I believe
And then that's, I mean, that's it
Then I have like the rest of the year
Save for when it comes out
And there's like press, but
But that's an exciting schedule, right?
Three months of hard work
And then nine months of chill-axing
Well, I mean, hopefully if people would
If Hollywood will let me
The ringleader
Mulholland Drive
If you've seen the documentary, Mulholland Drive
No
Hopefully I'll be able to like do other stuff
In the other town, like this summer
I've done a couple movies
Oh, that's awesome
Final Girls
And The Bronze
Check them out
They'll be out next year
Todd's movie, Todd Streltsilson
Exactly
What a good guy
Yeah
He's a very tender man
If you ever meet Todd Streltsilson
You'll say he's tender
No, he's like, he's wound tight
He's like a rubber band
He could get on the podcast
Yeah, yeah
He would be great
He'd be great for our empathetic suggestions
In terms of what to do
Oh, yeah
Oh, for the guy who's having trouble
Meeting girls
Start a watching party
Inviting boys and girls
Inviting not just you and a bunch of girls
Inviting mixed gender
Watching Party 4
The Quest
What's that?
You've seen The Quest?
No
What are you gonna say for Silicon Valley?
Oh, yeah
Of course
That's the...
I mean, no brainer
Come Springtime Game of Thrones
Silicon Valley, come on
That's the one-two punch
I mean, it's the one-two-three punch
But for now, for the summer
Like start up right now
The Quest
It's this reality TV show
Where it's essentially
LARPing
Like live-action role-playing
They got all these actors
In garb, in the castle
The whole storyline
But they've got contestants
That are like trying to compete
To be the true hero
It's incredible
It's your favorite thing ever
So they're like
You've got to come and get the seventh
Sunspear
Otherwise, like, Gazoo will come
And destroy us all
And then, like, the regular people are like
Yo, man
We gotta get the Sunspear
So Gazoo don't kill it
It's incredible
Why are there regular people there, too?
Because they're...
It's a reality TV show
Where they compete in challenges
And then get eliminated and stuff
Oh, so it's like some people are into it
And some people don't know anything
There are a couple of people
Who are like really buying the narrative
And it's like, it's real to them
It's Bonnie
Ugh
What a treasure
What channel is that?
It's not on a channel
It's on ABC
Really?
Yeah
That's what I'm watching this summer
This in Bachelor in Paradise
Which is such a fucking gang show
What is that?
Just like watching
Another reality show
It's the next Bachelor
But it's like all the...
All previous...
Like, not previous Bachelors
But previous people were on this show
It's like Bachelors are all stars
They're in this like
Trapped in this resort
And they're like
Loving one person next
Like hating on it
It's like
Oh, god
Watching mania
Emotional mania unfold in front of your eyes
I mean clearly there's some
Clever writing going on
But on top of that
You're just watching
You're watching people come apart
Remember come apart?
Yeah
They're all having a come apart
You can come apart
Come apart
It's like
Two hours of coming
Each episode is two hours
And I guarantee you
Two hours every episode
I promise you
After each and every one
You're like
I wish there was another one
It's so insane
I'm actually going on a flight soon
To London
The 11 hour flight
And I'm like
I'm looking for a show
That'll just make time fly
I'm here
Everyone says Game of Thrones
But you're saying Bachelor
Have you not watched Game of Thrones?
No
But it may be this
Bachelor thing sounds better
No, no, no, no
Watch Game of Thrones
Don't be an idiot
Don't be an asshole
What I'm done with that
Don't be a pooey asshole
But when you're done
With Game of Thrones
I'm telling you
What's it called?
If you're going to trust you
At anything
It's like
Have I had to seen any Bachelors?
No
No, no
I don't want to be behind
It really doesn't matter
No, no
I don't want to miss the plot
You should really watch Bachelors
Season 1 through 8
9 was missable
But I'll give you the
It's like the wires
You'd only be like
Oh, yeah
Veronica, yeah
She was a basket case
Since season 7
Or whatever
Right
But they kind of give it
When they introduce them
They give you a little recap
It's
I'm plugging all kinds of stuff
But Jesus Christ
Meetup.com
Yeah
The Quest
Bachelor on Paradise
And of course Game of Thrones
Don't be an idiot
And lastly
Lastly, Silicon Valley
Yeah, sure
At the very end
Peter Dinklin
Oh, I thought that was
I thought that was your daddy
Or something like that
Like you were
My dad's a short man
Is he short?
I don't know
He's a Dinklin
He's a short man
Look at him
Well, he has to fit on a shirt
So I figured they squished him down
For that reason
I didn't know that he was
Actually that small
Coming sacrilegious
Should we answer one last question?
Oh, yes, yes, please
Even though
We're already long
But it's having fun
But it's having fun
It's the most important thing
People love it
It's just mainly about having fun
People love it
Even after we're in court
We'll still answer these questions
Oh, you know what?
I forgot
We have to take a quick little
Commercial break
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Keep in mind
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A quick way to do
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Over 1
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It's a $10
Times 2
$20 off
You got that?
Yeah, I spent that
An $80 order
$8 times 2
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Real quick
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Wow
What do you think of that ad?
In terms of an ad
Seamless, right?
Me personally
I'd give that a
10 out of 10
Would you guys always have
Such clever banter
When you're doing the news ads?
You like snacks?
I like snacks
You do listen to the show
Of course I do
You only listen to the ads
I only listen to my episodes
But I try and skip out
Any time you guys talk
So I really only
Wow, that's so hard
My voice
Nah, it's easy
When you're this obsessed
You'd be surprised
Alright
Last question
Well, real quick
Next time we should do
A video podcast with Tom
Yeah, that's true
That'd be really fun
Would you be down?
Alright, great
Last question
Last question
Do you want to read this one?
You chose it
I hope another creative person
Does something creative with this podcast
I was really honored
That that guy took all the time
To animate it
Isn't that cool
That's on our site
I really like this so much
That I'm gonna animate this
Did you see the South Park Book of Mormon?
Some guy did Hello
The first song in Book of Mormon
As a South Park animation
So it's that same guy
Oh, was that too?
Oh, really?
That guy did a
Version of Thomas on our podcast
An animated version
We have fans that are that talented
And then also ones that
Write a question like this
Well, just as if you ever
Want to do something creative
Either drawing or animating
Or whatever
You just send it over to
Ifirouatgmail.com
Ifirouashowatgmail.com
Nice
Or you can tweet it at us
We found it on Twitter
Oh, tweet it
And we'll post it
We'll promote it
It's gonna get the eyeballs
Because people love to see it
And so do we
We put that one on
Ifirouashow.com
That's right
That's the official web
It was almost an all-girl episode
I need another name
For a lady right now
Oh, Misty Rivers
Misty Rivers
A porn star, probably
Misty Rivers writes
Dear Jake and Amir
I love the podcast
And would really appreciate
Some help with my sticky situation
Ew, Misty's sticky
I was over at my friend's house
The other day
And we were in her brother's room
Looking for a movie
I opened up a DVD case
That was shoved near the back
Of the bookcase
Was a pair of underwear
And not just any underwear
My underwear
I know this because
It was my size, brand
And it was a distinct pattern
That I had lost
I sleep over their house a lot
So I can see how he would
Get his hands on it
But why?
Here's the worst part
There was a white streak
Across them
And they smelled horrible
What was this?
I took the underwear
And threw it away
We were both freaked out
So he left his room
Why did he have my underwear?
What was on it?
Seaman?
Is that why it smelled bad?
Help me, Misty Rivers
This guy obviously
Was gonna do
A arts and crafts project
Yeah
So you get the underwear
Yeah
He doesn't want to buy it
So he took it from this girl
He was gonna bedazzle it
Yeah
He was gonna do
He got through the gloop part
You know, the Elmer's gloop
Yeah
So he did a streak of the stinky
You know, the seaman gloop
It was a birthday gift
And you're being selfish and rude
You know, it could be a little
See, she's jumping to conclusions
That it's his mess
She could have had a little
Femm smudge on there
Oh, shit
I forgot about it
Then it's been sitting in a
Fucking DVD case
But it's...
Rotting
So she's, like, smelling her own
Shnizz
And being like, hey, this guy's gross
Really, she's a stank pot
Yeah, you gotta recognize
Sometimes your shnizz
Smells bad, too
Yeah
And especially if it's been in a
DVD case
Just rotten away
You sound like the brother
Trying to justify it
How do you know
You didn't go
Go with Michael
Holding the DVD case
Over his direct penis
Michael, the point is
You stole my underwear
Well, I was trying to
I was gonna watch it
I just forgot about it
Put it in a DVD case
And give it back to you
I was gonna mail it
I can't mail it raw
I'm gonna put it in a case
I can't just write
An address on underwear
Send it off, willy nilly
Think about it, you dumb bitch
Like, he's like
Turning her a real dick
All about it
Use your mind
Use it
Oh, God, Jake's dying
I just love him getting
So defensive and angry
Oh, slams the door
Fuck, fuck
That's the best thing to do
When someone accuses you
Of something disgusting
Is yell at them louder
And we're just
The fucking idiot
And the initial question is like
Hey, um, so we found my
Underwear in the DVD
Fuck, God, Misty
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Oh, I don't know how it got there
I don't know what it smells like
Gross, you fucking idiot
God, a maniac smells an old underwear
Holy shit, this next email's
From this guy who said
This girl came over
And started sniffing around
Underwear
What's she doing?
Why's she sw-
Why'd he snoopin' in his fridge?
She left it on the fucking ground
And just put it away
In a DVD case
Cause I didn't know where else to put it
Look at me having it in my room
Not a slob
He said it was in a DVD case
Well
Well?
Like in the-
Like you open up a case of a DVD
And instead of a DVD
It's dirty panties
Yeah, so it scrumpled up panties
Young kids, like teenagers
Do some weird shit to jerk off
They're-
It's weird
Well, you know what
Here's the thing
It's like, for me
I never-
I never did panties stuff
But when I was a teen
You hear it a lot
Like you hear like
Oh man, the thing to do
Is grab panties
Or something like that
You know, it's like
It's in the air
But it's like no one ever does it
But he was like
Oh cool, that's what you gotta do
Like he actually wouldn't
Did it
What a risky maneuver
What was he thinking would happen
Like how do you-
When you sleep over
You take off your underwear
And then you just leave the next day
Yeah, but she's like
Oh, I forgot I lost my bra
Whatever
But-
But-
You don't bring two sets of panties
On a sleepover
Maybe she does
Cause she's fucking so nasty
Down there leaving streaks
She's-
Hershey's dude
She's gonna leave-
Not nasty
But-
Hershey's in a booze
Swampy
Yeah, she's a rainforest
Swampy
She can brew a beer
Down there
Oh god
Awful
We're like totally attacking her
Like one of us
The kids look perfect
You can brew a beer
What a horrible
Misogynistic response
I don't-
Man, that is a bit of a sticky situation
Literally
Well, are you-
Are you honestly gonna confront the kid
And embarrass the poor boy
Yeah
He deserves it
No
He stole your underwear
And jizzed it
It's innocent
What are you fucking-
Are you guys insane?
Why do you want to shame him?
He gives you something awful
It's not awful
Stealing a girl's underwear
And jizzing into it
It's so passive
It's so passive
It's not like he's spied on her
In the bathroom or something
Then I'd be like murder him
But he-
He was like-
He's a quiet little boy
He put-
He put underwear
You say I found out
I say if you want to-
If you want to confront him
Don't like shame him
I just-
It's like I found out
But like, you know
Maybe give him playful shit
He'd love that, I'm sure
Like if you kinda like
Sorted him into it
Oh, I should give him another pair
Of your underwear
Why did you get-
You made mine dirty
Yeah
Oh my God
You awful man
Oh, you should fucking blow him
What is that?
Like, that's how porn starts
Like, oh, what are you doing?
You-
My fucking underwear, you pervert?
You probably love this
Grapefruit him
You seen that video?
No
Oh, watch out
Go online, Google
How to grapefruit your man
What is grapefruiting?
Just watch it
I can't even describe it
Is it hot?
It's weird
Just watch it
I'm going to
It's sour
Everybody, all the listeners
Go Google it
It's bitter and it's sour
Um, jeez
You know what, you guys
Want it to be like the sandlot
Where, like, he plays a prank
That got him kissed
And then, like, the next day
The girl, like, gives him
That little coy smile
On the way to the pool
Yeah, then we end up getting married
I think that could happen
A sandlot response, honestly
Would be so much better
Than shaming that kid
That, like, is going to bring
So much more weirdness to him
You know, I think it-
It matters how old he is
If he's 13
Which it sounds like he is
Hopefully will be
That's- I think that's not worth
Like, don't shame him
Just, like, he's-
That's so innocent
Reverse those numbers
And he's a shi-
Yeah
And you're my age
I bet if he's older than you
Confront him, if he's under
Than you don't confront him
That's good
Ask him when his birthday is
That's fair
Hold it then you-
What's your birthday?
Okay, never mind
I'm 40
What are you-
See, it's so creepy
If it was her friend's dad
Can you imagine that?
See, that's what I'm saying
That's, like, a Todd Salantz movie
That's, like, happiness
If it's bad at a certain age
It's bad at every age
That's not true
Yeah, it's like
Oh, it'd be really bad if he-
What are you fucking talking about?
That's the- that murdered him
It sounds concise
But it's so wrong
Oh, I murdered him
But I was 13
That's okay
But he was 40
That's one example
Yeah, I stole her underwear
And jerked off into it
But I was 13
Oh, that's fine
I was 20
Whoa, that's fucked up
If he does it at 13
He'll do it at 20
No, look
And maybe-
What's wrong with jerking off the pants?
I'm just saying it's not nice
It's not good
It's not good
But it's like
It's so-
It's passive, shameful
He's a kid who likes masturbating
Here's the thing
If it bothers a girl
And she doesn't want it to happen again
Yes, she can confront him
But I would strongly urge him
Not to, like, shame him and make it
Like, do it- don't do it in front of his parents
Yeah, don't do it in front of his parents
To say, hey
Or you can tell your friend
Hey, man, this is weird
I tell my aunties
Don't worry, I'm not-
I'm not mad, I'm not gonna post it online
Or whatever
Just don't do it again
Because it makes me feel strange
Yeah, that's fine
That's nice
That's fair
That's how you really feel
He's just gonna do it again
He's like such a-
He's not gonna do it again
He's got the underwear
He's just drunk top
He's such a sweet boy
He's probably a little Amir
Like, with his glasses
Like, he just got done his math homework
And he's looking at the DVD case
And he's like, I don't know
Well, I guess maybe one more
And he does it
You're weird about jerking off when you're young
Oh, but the guy that was texting a girl
That guy's a serial cheater
He doesn't deserve a second chance
That he does it over and over and over again
But this guy who jerks off into his sister's
stolen friend's panties
You know, it's a one-time thing
It's cute
You're just saying it in a mocking voice
But yes, that is my opinion
No
No
I wonder
You need to do an online poll on the website
Oh, shit
To see if Amir is in the right
Or Tom and Jake are in the right
That's a good idea
Yeah
I would love to see what the populist thinks
On both these issues
Yeah, agreed
I would say they would agree with you on the first issue
And me on the second issue
I think we're gonna get agreed with both times
Of course you do
I think we're a little bit more-
I think honestly
I think we're a little bit more understanding
We are
Let's see if you have a $0 policy
And then more understanding
I'm not saying
For the cheater guy
Like that he should be hung up
I don't know what you're saying
You say one's striking your out
I'm just saying
One's striking your out
Well, yeah
But in this one it's kind of like a serious strike
Cheating and stealing a pair of underwear
Is different
Very different
Well, let's ask the public
Especially when you're young
And you kind of don't
You kind of still figure it out
I remember when I first jacked off
The very first time
I stopped when I was about to come
And I was like
Oh, fuck
What was that?
I broke it
I broke it
And I like got out of the shower
Like, tried off
And be like
Well, that'll never happen again
And it didn't
And it didn't
And I'm filled to the lid
With semen
I remember when I did that
Every time you cough
A little bit comes out
Oh, shit
Oh, shit
I'm just like
When you fill up a cereal bowl
All the way to the lid
So that the meniscus
Is pouring over the bowl
That's what you are
Even as you walk around
There's sometimes a semen
It'll slosh a little bit
Yeah, yeah
I don't jog anymore
It'll just leak out
Nose eyes
Sometimes when I cut my toenails
I'll like cut too far
And a little bit
We'll see back
Oh, gross, man
Wonderfully gross
Well, that's it
Those are four good questions
Fun, different answers
I'm glad we disagreed
Yeah, disagreeing
Let's ask the internet
Who's right
Yeah, because morality is an abstract
You know, last time
There was a record
Last time we did
Was it on Twitter?
We asked if it was okay to
Oh, metal
Yeah
And most people agree with me
What do you think about that?
What's metal?
If a girl's in a relationship
Yeah
Can you go after the girl?
AKA meddling
Without knowing any other information
Than just simply that
Because there's a lot of circumstance
Yeah, there could be
Like if you could be in a bad relationship
You could be looking for a way out
Or whatever
In a non-married relationship
Honestly, I think it's okay
There it is
There it is
Finally, vindication
I don't think
I don't think
It's bad form
Yeah
It's a bad thing to do
But I've been in situations where it's like
This girl's looking to get melted
Meddled
Oh, melted
Oh no, you've done a terrible thing
Melted
And so I chain her down in the open patio
And put a magnifying glass on her
I think that's what I said
Is that you can present yourself
As a really solid option
If that person wanted to leave
That's meddling
I don't think
But it's not saying like
It's flirting
Come out with
No, you're saying like 100%
Go after a girl in a relationship
I don't think that
I'm kind of thinking about it more
Well, we actually are out of time
No, thank you so much
No, no, no, no
As a younger man
I would have meddled and did meddle
But now, like if I was single
I found that out
That's poor form
Because you've got to put yourself
In the other dudes' shoes
I'm not saying if this girl's
In an abusive relationship
You shouldn't be like
Hey, you should not be with that guy
And I don't mean like
Actual physical abuse
Because that's okay to meddle
But if a girl's in a solid relationship
And you're like
I just think this girl's pretty
I'm gonna just poke around
At this
Oh, that's bad
But that's one extreme
Another extreme is
This girl's with a guy
Who's obviously not great
And I'm so much better
And we get along very well
Should I just leave her alone
Until she breaks up with her boyfriend
Or should I just continue
Hanging out with her
Hoping to go out
Even in the bad relationship
Even in the bad relationships
When I found out
That the girl's like
Immediately with someone
And that, you know, it's like
She was essentially being meddled
With while he was
I'm like so mad
And even though I was
Like a dick hole
Or something like
It is bad form
It's not gentlemanly behavior
I'll tell you that
Poor form for sure
And I'm saying
So if you want to be a gentleman
Which is my new
Was my reformation
It's a hard note
I'm sorry, I rescind my answer
That was insane
What a complete turnaround
No, baby
Well, I think it's because
It's a question that you sort of like
As soon as you get more information
It's easy to change your mind
Yeah, yeah
I mean, there could be like
If she's in a great relationship
And you're a bad guy
It's not worth it
But if she's in a terrible relationship
And you're a great guy
And you guys get along
Are you even a great guy
As soon as you start to meddle
Are you necessarily a great guy
Well, you said a nice guy can cheat
Yeah, but then he has a consequence
Of having the relationship ended
Thank you
What do you want me to say, guys?
It's us versus you, dude
You guys go off to lunch together
The thing is, Amir
Mankind
We're all
So many different shades
Of gray
Of gray
There's no black and white, man
Yeah, yeah
50 shades of gray
No, no, no
So many different shades of gray
It's a different book
It's my time, Weisman
Thanks for coming back, Tom
Thanks so much for having me
What a joy
It was fun to have you
It was fun
Do you want to plug anything more
Than you already have?
Meetup.org
So it's on value.com
Well, I've plugged a couple of shows
Websites
Grapefruiting your boyfriend
Yeah, how to grapefruit your man
Middle Ditch on Twitter
Yeah, at Middle Ditch on Twitter
At TomBeanieTOMBINI
On Instagram
On the Grams
Yeah, I don't know
Watch the Emmys
See if you'll see me
I don't think I'll be
They might glance past me
You do look like Seth Meyers
Who you wearing?
Not nice, I don't think so, man
I see everybody
It's because we have a long
Angla face
Who am I wearing?
Oh, fuck
What am I?
I think it's actually like a
Valentino suit
I think it's like a fancy boy suit
That's fucking dope
That's fucking dope
It's very slim fitted
I look kind of like a Jonas brother
What's the look now, though?
I don't want to look
Sockless? No socks?
It looks more British
Than what they would ever
Put on their silly bodies
Well, so look out, look out for that
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Of your own that you want us to yell about
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That's how he said to pronounce his name
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Thanks Thomas again for coming by
We should have you on one more time
And that's it
Really? One more?
Yeah, just for
Okay
I'll take it
Deal, please
I'm begging you
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