I've Had It - The Age of Unenlightenment

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So we're supposed to start the podcast. Ready? One, two, three. Welcome to I've Had It podcast, a show where one of the co-hosts has not been laid in 42,786 days and counting. The clicker goes click, click, click, click, click, click, click. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Listen up, listener. As you know, we have been rolling out our sexless in the city, New York in-person interviews. And today, we want to share a story with you all of our trip to New York. So Pumps and I were leaving the podcasting studio, and we liked to ride the subway. Love it. Love public transportation.
Starting point is 00:00:53 We like to dart around the city on the subway. We like the people watching. We like the active nature of traveling on the subway. So we go through, we do our Apple pay to get through the gate and we go down the stairs and the train's there and I just start running for it. And I run and I make it on and I turn around and Pumps is there and her arms coming out
Starting point is 00:01:16 and the doors just close. And literally it's like a movie. We both put our hands and our faces up to the window together and we were both like, it's hitting us like, oh my God, Pumps goes, I'll find you. Jenny, I'll find you. And I go, get off on 53rd and 5th, Pumps, you can do it. She was like, okay. And then the train takes off And she was like, okay. And then the train takes off. And I turn around and it is like rush hour and the train is completely packed.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And I turn around and everybody just kind of laughed at me. And we were separated on the subway, separated in the city. No, we were separated in the city. And it was so shocking to both of us because we both tried to put our hands in and it was not like an elevator that opened. It was like, you're fucking getting your arm cut off if you don't move your hand. I mean, I wish we could have seen that there was a video because your face,
Starting point is 00:02:13 I mean, your face was just like, oh, like just despair. Well, because I feel like I, and this is probably a shortcoming of mine, but I feel like in situations like that, that I'm the leader, that I'm going to lead you from point A to point B. I'm going to guide you through the subway and I feel like you need me. And that might be codependency on my part because you're fully capable of doing the subway and everything. But I feel like I have a fiduciary duty to be your escort in these situations.
Starting point is 00:02:46 So the fact that the door closed, I mean, I just, I was like, pumps. And her hands were right up in our faces and it was just the glass between us. Yeah, it was like the end of the rom-com. It was. It was that bad. And I will say this, I had City Mapper, everything was, or isn't that what it's called City Mapper? That's it. But here's the thing that would have never happened
Starting point is 00:03:11 if my leader had been on the subway. So we're sitting there and these two guys get on and they start talking about the homeless population and what they need for the homeless. And everybody looks down. None of the real New Yorkers even lifted their head. It was like it was invisible. Co-dependent queen from Oklahoma gets out her wallet. Cause I think I have a $1 bill in my wallet, but I only have a $20 bill. By this time they've got their eye on me
Starting point is 00:03:41 cause they know I'm the sucker. Oh yeah. And you're unattended. I'm unattended. My leader has abandoned me. So I gave him the $20 out of guilt and codependency. I don't think that would have happened if you were there. You would have been like, put your fucking wallet up.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I would have said, do not look at them. And that's not where it stops. Tell them what happened next. Oh, then I missed my stop. I was supposed to get off at 53rd and 3rd and I got off at 53rd and Lexington. Now you're supposed to get up on 53rd and 5th and you end up getting off on 53rd and Lexington. So see my feeling that I need to be in charge of you on the subway. It's proven. And I have to say you guys we have the fright find my friends I tracked her. Oh you did I know I saw that you went down to third you saw that
Starting point is 00:04:31 I missed my stop. I saw it and I thought you know, she knows Manhattan enough to know yeah I can get from third to fifth. Yeah. No, I I can get around I've done the subway by myself So better with mama bits better because I don't have to think. Who's your mama? You're my mama. Who is your mama? You're my leader, you're my mama, you're my subway person, although I was abandoned. Okay, listen, she wasn't abandoned. Here's what happens, listener.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I'm an athlete. We've turned this into an athlete story. I saw the train pull up and I was able to do the math in my head. If I ran at a particular speed, I could make it. And I ran like the wind. I just right on that subway. Well, here's what happened. You were halfway down the stairs and then you took off like a rocket.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I mean, it went from walking down the stairs. That's what they call unbridled athleticism. I thought it was just like, I'm going to hurry the shit out of this. It's just, I didn't know we were calculating speeds and doing time drills and pace in our head. You wouldn't know that. Right. Because I wasn't an athlete. That's right. That's right. Right. You wouldn't know that. And so that's why you missed the train, lost $20 and ended up on third Avenue.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Those are the consequences. Continuing and didn't get laid. Not one time during your whole entire isolated on Third Avenue. Those are the consequences. Continuing and didn't get laid. Not one time during your whole entire isolated on the subway. You're still sexless. Still sexless on the subway. Listen, listen up listener. So during our week in New York, we were able to interview a lot of people in person, which we love. And today we want to share our interview with Jason and Devram of The Good Liars. They've been on our podcast before. We bondarom-ed with them. I mean, bondarom-a-ding-dong with them at the DNC. Love these guys. They are smart. They're good people. They're hilarious comedians and you've probably seen them on social media where
Starting point is 00:06:26 they're the guys that go to the Trump rallies and within 2.5 seconds without being dicks, they have these Trumpers in an intellectual headlock by just using critical thinking and asking very simple questions. And I think it's a very important service that they do to show the inherent flawed thinking on the right. You would have to think that at least one person at every rally they've talked to has a think after it. Like, huh, you know, had some internal dialogue that maybe switches their mind. I appreciate the optimism. I appreciate that, Poms. But I don't think so. I don't think it ever clicked. You don't?
Starting point is 00:07:08 No, no. All right, so now let's hear our interview with the good liars. Patriots, gay triots, they triots, we are here in New York City with, I feel like we're friends. I do too. We are.
Starting point is 00:07:21 We are friends. We have spent time together where we're not recording something. That's right. We've just spent some quality time together, some QT. Hung out. time together where we're not recording something. That's right. We've just spent some quality time together, some QT. Hung out. That's what we're doing today. I want that to be the goal of today.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So this is The Good Liars, Jason and Devram. See Pimps and I have this kind of, I don't know if it's an insecurity or a disparity of people that we meet. We feel like, oh my God, we really love the good liars. And then we think, I wonder if they love us. No, the feeling's mutual. You don't need to feel that way. We talk about you all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:51 OK, well, I just want to... OK, we disagree on this one. No, no, no. We love you. OK. Yeah, we've we loved seeing you at the DNC. That was very fun. Very fun. Yes. We love what you do. Did you guys go to the RNC? Yes, we did. We didn't
Starting point is 00:08:06 get we weren't invited inside the RNC. We were outside the RNC. And like we were talking about right before we started recording, that was the same week as the assassination attempt. So we were actually in Pennsylvania. We left an hour before it happened. And then we decided to almost cancel our trip because we're like what's happening? We were gonna leave the next day for the RNC and we're like this is a strange time in politics this might be really intense and maybe we'll sit this one out and in Uh good liars fashion for like 24 hours. We were like maybe we should sit it out. No, we'll buy flights right now So it was like, yeah, no, and then quick yes. I'm sure when you heard out,
Starting point is 00:08:45 when you found out that Grindr was crashing, I mean, there was just a lot of stuff going on. Yes, yes. It was a whole party there. It was still a party. And then I think we were just wondering like, oh, is Trump, is there's this moment where there's an assassination attempt?
Starting point is 00:08:58 This is a really crazy thing to happen in the country. Maybe Trump is gonna change. And like, it feels so stupid to say it now. We had a moment where we were like, maybe he's going to change. Maybe he's going to pick Nikki Haley as the way he could have. He could have like written that to winning. I think like if he didn't become himself again, right, like 36 hours of not saying anything totally insane. And then by the end of the convention, Hulk Hogan was like ripping his shirt off. Yeah, you know what? You know what psychiatrists call this thought that you all had? It's the
Starting point is 00:09:30 definition of insanity. Yeah, you know, the same that you have the same expectation over and over again and expect a different result for nine years. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. That's like, so this one's on us. Like on this day, Donald Trump finally became president. Yes. He had a presidential moment. We were like waiting for it. Didn't happen, didn't happen. So we went there, we went to the RNC,
Starting point is 00:09:53 and it was like, people were in a great mood, and then pretty much all of them said, abortions are happening after birth. Right. So it was just a party of that kind of thing. Just a typical party. Yeah, just a typical of that kind of thing. Just a typical party. Yeah, just a typical party.
Starting point is 00:10:07 All right, let's get to our brand a little bit. Okay. Grievances. All right, let's start with you, Jason. What have you had it with? Mine is a big one. Let's hear it. Because I'm going to start way up, and actually I'm going to start close.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I'm going to start close to myself and be very personal here. So I was on my phone the other day and I was scrolling. You know, like, let's just call it doom scrolling. Just going through. Every single thing I was seeing was making me either unhappy about the world or unhappy judging myself against other people. And the good liars, we like live on the internet.
Starting point is 00:10:40 We live online. Like that's where a lot of people see us for the most part. But my thing that I've had it with is the internet. It's the entire internet, the entire thing. And just like, I want to just like take a step back. And this is not like a new thing. People are talking about this all the time. But like, there was a time when you didn't pick your phone up right when you wake up and then feel something about something that has nothing to do with you
Starting point is 00:11:08 or compare yourself to somebody else right away. And then when you go to sleep, you do the exact same thing. I mean, maybe this is just my problem with being addicted to my phone, but I've had it with it. But also, like a true addict, I'm not gonna quit. Like, let's be honest here, I'm not gonna quit. But at least this morning, I had that thought and I'm gonna say that now,
Starting point is 00:11:29 but now I have the urge to check my phone just by calling. How long do you take off? When you had that thought, I mean, how long were you able to stay away from it? Well, I tweeted about it first. I had to tweet it later. I was like, no, I'm so sick of this.
Starting point is 00:11:41 No, I'm not very long to have room to answer your question. Fair, fair. I agree with you. It is something that's like, I like it. Like when we came here, we use city mapper and we're able to take the subway like real New Yorkers and we're schlepping around and it's fantastic. But there are so many times where I'm like, I hate this phone. I don't like the information that I'm receiving. I don't like the information I'm putting out. You know, like if you, sometimes you're just too available to people.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yes. And what Jason was saying about how it doesn't actually affect you in the moment, but you have a feeling about it. I don't think humans are supposed to constantly be considering what is like outside of their immediate surroundings. Totally agree. I don't think it's good for us.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I completely agree. Okay, let me. So let's get off the internet. Let's all throw a front to the it. Not till November 6th. OK, we have to stay on it. OK, so here's the last time I did it. Like, I'm not getting on my phone the entire day. So I started a movie on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I had my phone completely off. It was the day Joe Biden said he wasn't going to. Oh, really? Yes. You didn't know? I had no idea. It was a Sunday. It was a perfect day to take off.
Starting point is 00:12:43 My daughter comes running in the bedroom, she's like, oh my gosh, Joe Biden's not running for real election. I was like, that's not true, that's not true. And then I turned it on, I'm like, fuck. Yeah. Well, how did that affect you? But how did it actually affect you besides just not being
Starting point is 00:12:57 in the know and like for a little bit? I think it scared me at first, like something happened. Like I think I have this, if I'm on Twitter all the time and I'm constantly searching the headlines, then I have more control over what's going on than if I'm just out of pocket for seven hours. Right. So what control do you have?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, where do you get a question? You don't, hey, I have no control. You could have called Biden and been like, I don't like this. Yeah, what's going on here? But I didn't even know it happened until Kamala had already accepted. Oh, right, yeah. I mean, I was way in.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It all happened so fast. That's funny, yeah, because there's like a, you missed kind of like a big uncertainty hour. Like a big moment in history, yeah. The one day you tried to take off. Right, and now I'm like, I'm just glued to this thing until November 6th. Well, that's the lesson, yeah, just never.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Are you guys on true social? No, but like, I will go and check it. You signed up for it? I think I'm Patriot something. Oh nice. What are you, Liberty something? I don't know. She has a burner account.
Starting point is 00:13:50 She's on True Social quite a bit. Honestly, I mean like it's hard for me to have empathy for these people, truly, because it's by choice. But what's going on at True Social, it's no wonder these people are fucking bananas. I mean the shit going down on there is just like other, like unbelievable that he was the former president
Starting point is 00:14:10 of the United States. You mean just what he's posting or what other people are posting? What he's posting, all of like him as Jesus posts. Right, right, right. All the grifting. The same stuff people put, wrap their cars in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, I mean, it's just, I mean, you've seen it up close and personal, but it's just so shocking to me every time I get Ivermectin every other crazy. It's like by gold, Ivermectin. Yeah. Like all this stuff. Just a grift. 100,000 dollar watches though. I'm thinking about trying to save up. Should we just do it? We could have it every other day. We're of the opinion we think he's broke. We do. I think he's rich person broke. I don't think he's broke like the way we would be dead as broke.
Starting point is 00:14:54 But I think all of these griffs because she follows the court cases like crazy. You're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars that he has plus legal fees. He's trotting out a couple of private planes now. He hasn't really been doing real estate stuff. And we interview Michael Cohen quite a bit and he's always inflated his worth, which is what he's been charged with as well. And I just feel like Melania's back,
Starting point is 00:15:19 she's in the grift now, they've trotting her out. She's got these necklaces. I don't think he's a B billionaire. B but it's just it's he's doing things the way he's used to doing them, I think, which is just capitalizing off of his, his name and his fame. And, and I think he knows people will buy this stuff. So I don't I don't know if he's Yeah, considering they've been hit so hard by inflation, right? They can hardly buy bread and eggs. Complaining about all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:15:47 price of groceries, but I gotta get my $100,000 watch. But I think that it's also, if you look at it, go back and look at Trump through the years, he had Trump's stakes, he had Trump University. It's not like he was totally hurting for cash during those times. Yes, he's always inflated his wealth. I think he's just a grifter.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And somebody comes in is like, hey, Lee Greenwood's doing a Bible. You want to put your name on it and you get 30%. And he's like, all right, I'll do the math here. Oh, I could make $5 million up. Yeah, sure. Let's do it. I don't care. It's a Bible. I don't care. Bible is the best book in the world. It's the same. It's like Trump stakes all over again, but now he has a passionate group of people who will buy everything that he puts out there. So I think he just can't, he can't help himself a little bit. But the one thing that I do think the one thing of value that he put out there were the NFTs. People who own them, you know, you look at it every day. Yeah. I read that a lot of people that bought them were waiting for them to arrive in the mail.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Oh, they're like older people and they don't get it. Yes, they were waiting for their they thought they were baseball cards and they've been waiting for them to arrive in the mail. That's why he said so that's the second one. Some of them are real. You get like you get the mail because there's no more erotic. Don't you think those Photoshop's are kind of this homo erotic like version of Trump? It's really weird. I think it's just that's just how he
Starting point is 00:17:11 looks. He's muscular. He's just gonna be really really strong. He can yeah fly a jet or whatever. Yeah right. What have you had it with? Okay, so this one is smaller than the internet. Entire internet. Yeah, smaller than the entire internet. I've had it with people petting my dog on the street without asking. Without consent. Without consent. So I'm walking my dog and she's a very cute dog, so I get it.
Starting point is 00:17:42 You're going to want to talk to this dog. Yeah. Then they just grab her and then I'm like, oh, so I get it. You're going to want to talk to this dog. Yeah. Then they just grab her. And then I'm like, oh, you know, I don't know what to sue this person is. Right. And then they pick her up sometimes. People will just pick up the dog and be like, oh, what a cute dog. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And and so basically, I'm trying to teach her how to like bite someone. Right. It's a picker up. Self-defense. I can't explain. Yeah. So I'm workingicker up. Self-defense. I can't explain. Yeah, so I'm working on that. If anyone out there could teach a dog how to bite a stranger.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Whatever his name is. Yeah. In the face. I have a take on this. So I have a really attractive dog as well. I mean, he's really attractive. Not very modest about your dog. Photogenic.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Best dog, second best dog. He has a megawatt smile. I mean, everybody wants to pet him, but he doesn't like people. He's French, he's a French bulldog, and you know how the French can be. And he very much, yeah, he's a little uppity. He doesn't really like, it's not like an American dog
Starting point is 00:18:34 that will just go lick anybody. He's more discerning, you know, and people want to- Snobby, I think is the word you're looking for. And people want to pet him and he doesn't want it. And I have to say that sometimes I'm a hypocrite though, because if I see a really attractive dog and I'm not with my dogs, like I could pass you on the street
Starting point is 00:18:53 and we don't know each other, we're not best friends. Like we are right now. We're friends, we're not best friends, we're friends. Okay, all right. I disagree, I think we're best friends. Okay, great, thank you. I want to, I'll go up and then right as I'm petting the dog, I'm like, best friends. Okay, great. Thank you. I want to, I'll go up and then right as I'm petting the dog, I'm like, this is not good.
Starting point is 00:19:08 You didn't get consent. Yeah. Right. This person doesn't like this. But you would probably, you'd probably bend down and you'd probably wait, let the dog come to you a little bit. Yes. People will walk over and pick her up every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:19:20 What kind of dog is this? She's a miniature long haired dachshund. I'll tell you what, weenie dogs have made a huge comeback. They have, but you started, she's 10. She's 10 years old. You brought the drink. I got her on a dare. 10 years ago, my friend said,
Starting point is 00:19:33 I'll buy you this dog in 10 seconds unless you say no. And then I was like, well, I probably shouldn't have a dog right now. I'm very irresponsible. I don't have, you know, stable income. And he was like, nine, eight, seven. I was like, I'll take the dog. I'll take the dog.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So yeah, 10 years. And you just love her? I love her. Just don't pick her up, you know, on the street. I think that's universal though. No one should pick up somebody else's anything. I agree. Yeah, but I've had it with that.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Without consent. Yeah. But what about the petting? I think a petting. That's fine. Let the dog like, do this and let the dog come to you. I'll make sure the dog. I put my hand out first to make sure the dog's interested. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I agree with you. Sometimes it's a little bit too aggressive. I particularly don't like it when
Starting point is 00:20:15 children try to pet my dogs. That irritates me more than adults. Yeah. It's a wild card. You don't know what you're going to get. You don't know. And you don't know where those hands have been. And I just, I don't particularly, I'm not a huge kid person. I like kids. I mean, I like my kids. I like her kids most of the time. That's about it.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Sometimes, yeah. I was gonna say, kids just pretty much ruin everything in your life. This little girl ran up to my dog, Basil, and she's a dachshund, so she's low to the ground. And she was saying, sitting or standing? I can't tell. Sitting or standing?
Starting point is 00:20:43 I can't tell. That's fair. That's fair. Screaming, sitting or standing, I can't tell. Sitting or standing, I can't tell. I guess she was screaming, sitting or standing, I can't tell. And like reached for, lurched for. And it was a scary moment because Basil was like, I might bite this kid. Right, that would be the one you don't want her to bite. Listener, this may come as a total shock to you, but Pumps and I have not always been this pull-together and rock solid.
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Starting point is 00:24:16 That's right. Live. Live and in person. That's right. Okay. I have a question. How did you guys start The Good Liars? How did this come about?
Starting point is 00:24:31 And what year? Well, do you remember Occupy Wall Street? Yes. So we thought it would be funny if we dressed in some thrift store suits as investment bankers. Okay. And we went and we occupied Wall Street. So we were like, we're gonna be here longer than you guys are because if you don't leave
Starting point is 00:24:50 and we make any less money, we're gonna have to sell our fourth houses in the Hamptons. We won't be able to do as much cocaine as we like to. And we thought we were like doing a bit. Like we thought people would kind of catch on. And because it was so extreme that they would know that we were doing a bit, like we thought people would kind of catch on. And because it was so extreme that they would know that we were we were doing a bit. They did not. People joined us. Real investment bankers joined us.
Starting point is 00:25:12 We called it Occupy Occupy Wall Street. And they were like, yeah, we are better than these people. And and then the media kind of caught on it. We just were getting more and more extreme. But it was like more and more believed. And so we thought there was room for kind of comedy in the real world like this. I think it's helpful. I think that what you all do is really helpful
Starting point is 00:25:32 because I think sometimes people are stuck in this thing, whether it's a cult or a sense of community or a combination of both of those things. And some of my favorite stuff that you do, because I was so tortured growing up around all of these evangelicals growing my favorite stuff that you do, because I was so tortured growing up around all of these evangelicals growing up, is when people say, oh no, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:50 I, we need to have the Bible in all classrooms. And the superintendent of our state, who y'all should really go after, his name is Ryan Walters, he is putting the 10 commandments in every classroom. And he just asked for what, $6 million to put Bibles in every classroom. Mandatory.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Mandatory Bibles. All grades? All grades. All grades. I'm Jewish. I grew up in a town where there were not a lot of Jewish people. And so everyone was always trying to convert me to like save me.
Starting point is 00:26:18 They were like, I like you. You seem like a really nice guy. And I just don't want you to burn in hell for eternity. And that was like a very constant thing. Same with me. I'm always inviting me to like young life events where I would be like, they would know, they'd be like, the Jews coming.
Starting point is 00:26:34 You'd have to talk to them, and then I would get like a whole hour like sermon directed at me in front of all my friends. So I can't imagine going further and then being like, and the Bible's at school, and everyone else believes it, and everyone else celebrates Christmas, and you don't. I appreciate it when you ask them about, do you think that you should have a book that has murder in it, or is harmful to children, and then you say, well, the Bible, do you
Starting point is 00:26:58 think the Bible should be in schools? They say yes. And you say, okay, what about the part where somebody gets their dad drunk and it has sex with him? Two daughters, two daughters. Or about God killing the children with the bear. And that's what I think is important because critical thinking, you know, when you study history, you're like, this was the age of enlightenment.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And it was like this era. And oftentimes, when I'm on the internet, your biggest grievance, I think, are we living in the age of unenlightenment? Like what is going on here? To my point, I think the internet has done the opposite of what we thought that it was gonna be, like which was like, we're gonna exchange ideas
Starting point is 00:27:37 and it's gonna be, you're gonna get news faster than ever before. But really it's just like you're getting fake news, literally fake news conspiracy theories, you can spread them a lot more easily than you could before when there was like four news channels. Now, there's been good and bad and all that stuff. And I don't the cats out of the bag, you can't do anything about it now. But just thinking about what you just said, there's just this last weekend.. Vance did an event with this guy. What was his name again? Lance Wallow?
Starting point is 00:28:06 Wallnow? Wallnew? Yeah. And this guy went on television after the first debate and said that he believes that Kamala Harris is a Jezebel. Oh yeah. And practiced witchcraft at the debate. But there was some hope.
Starting point is 00:28:23 There was some hope. He said that if Donald Trump donned the mantle of Elijah that he could overcome. Yes, for a fact sake. So we went into this event and I talked to a woman there who was a follower of this guy and was not there for J.A. Vance, was there for him and asked her these exact same questions.
Starting point is 00:28:44 She won the Bible taught in every single school, public school, and I asked her about the two dads, sorry, the two daughters having sex with the dad, and at first she said that is pornographic, that shouldn't be in there. Then when I said, so you don't want any, like two daughters getting their dad drunk and having sex with them?
Starting point is 00:29:02 She's like, oh no, you'd not ban the Bible. And then I listed like five things, and she was totally okay with it. And, oh no, you'd not ban the Bible. And then I listed like five things and she was totally okay with it. And her reason was if it's in the Bible, it's okay. Whereas if it was in another book that they put out that said the exact same things, they'd probably be protesting it and burning it. Isn't that the same permission structure
Starting point is 00:29:19 that Trumpers use though? If Trump says it, it's okay. I mean, you hear that a lot. I mean, it's that same set of permission structure that they use for excusing a lot of his stuff. Like, would you want to vote for a politician that slept with a porn star? Well, no. But when Trump did it, it was okay. Would you want to support somebody who tried to subvert democracy? No. But oh, but when Trump did it, it was okay. It's kind of that same permission structure.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Well, I think it has to do with what you're talking about the age of unenlightenment or disenlightenment or whatever you call it. He gave people permission to not trust anybody, but but himself, he he basically told, you know, anybody who would listen that he was the only one he was the only place you could come for information so I think It we're seeing like the fruits of that now and like since January 6th, it's like oh he you know specifically Tried to stop the certification of the vote for president did not allow for the peaceful transfer of power
Starting point is 00:30:21 Anybody else I cannot imagine what these Patriots would be saying, right? power. Anybody else I cannot imagine what these patriots would be saying. Right. But when Donald Trump did it, it was like a peaceful tourist visit. And he's just a little dust up. If that and he's just trying to make sure that the next election is even more secure. Let's not look into it. Let's not find out that, you know, all the court cases went against them, but maybe one or two That literally every single thing they followed it to its end all the audits and everything Nothing has come of it. But Donald Trump says it's okay So it's okay and we are headed into another election and they have still feel that that this is unresolved, right? Well, I got news for you to prom
Starting point is 00:31:07 is unresolved. Right. Well, I got news for you, Debram. If Donald Trump wins, then January 6th, no, then January 6th is okay. Yeah, by the will of the people. That's right. United States of America is basically saying that is okay. And then what do you have to what can you say to that? People voted for him after this happened. They knew this they watched this happen. They saw him refuse to concede, and now they're okay with it. I agree, people would be saying that it was okay, but I don't think it would probably be the best thing for democracy. Oh, heavens now.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Are you all ready to play Had It or Hit It? Oh gosh, yeah. Oh my God. Welcome to Had It or Hit It. I would hit it. Had it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Okay, had it or hit it, reality TV. Had it. Had it, yeah. But I've never been, I've never been a reality TV person. I just tried to watch the Mormon Housewives show or whatever, and the lead up to it, you think this is gonna be this incredible show that how they all started having these swinging parties,
Starting point is 00:32:02 but it's not, they're just like, and that was in the past, and now we're just regular people on camera wasting your time. Yeah, I was kind of really let down about that. I got about two episodes in and I was just like, this is what it is, this is what people are watching. So you wanted it to be more garbage than it was. Right, I wanted swinging, I wanted to watch me.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You wanted to be more reality TV as your problem. I watched Too Hot to Handle to waste time during the pandemic. And anytime anything was about to happen, people were like, you know what? I'm sorry for getting so worked up. I hope we can all get along more. You're like, that's not what we're here for. Okay, had it or hit it movie remakes.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Huh. You know what? Well, you know, there are remakes that I like, but I'm going to say I'm going to say had it. I'm going to say had it. Yeah, I've had it. That's all that's coming out. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:51 How did it get back? Welcome to our podcast. Yes. This is two times. I've had it. The good liars said best friends. That's not work friends, but friends. Real life.
Starting point is 00:32:59 What do you think the good remake is? I thought Top Gun was pretty good. But that's not a remake. It's a remake. It's a remake. It's a remake. It's a remake. It's a remake. It's a Not work friends, best friends. Real life friends. What do you think the good remake is? I thought Top Gun was pretty good. But that's not a remake.
Starting point is 00:33:10 That was a sequel. That was like a sequel. Was Twisters good? People say Twisters was good. I don't know if that was a remake either. All right. Had it or hit it. Sunday Funday.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I am all about the lazy Sunday. I'm about a lazy Sunday. Because I don't like the Monday crunch. There you go. You might have the Tuesday. because I don't like the Monday crunch. There you go. You might have the Tuesday. Sunday Funday leading into the Monday crunch. Yeah, Monday crunch. I remember when I was in college in early 20s, I would always
Starting point is 00:33:34 be like, it's the Monday crunch. I started off by eating salads, drinking lots of water, jogging. By Thursday, you know, you're right back at happy hour. You're like Donald Trump, the darned C. You're like, maybe I could be a good guy. And by Thursday, you're like Hulk Hogan.
Starting point is 00:33:49 We gotta kill everyone, folks. We've gotta have the birds. It's all over. Okay, had it or hit it, zodiac signs. Had it. Of course had it. I'm a Scorpio and all Scorpios think that astrology is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:34:03 So I don't believe in astrology. But you hear yourself, right? You're buying into it pretty hard right now. OK, had it or hit it. Gym selfies. Gym selfies. Gym like you're working out in the gym and you take a little selfie. I'm a private at home, Apple Fitness Plus person. Really? So I am working out at home Apple Fitness Plus person. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:25 So I am working out at home and I could take a selfie of myself and it would only be myself seeing it. But I don't think I would appreciate that. I've seen people do that in the hotels on the road. I do group hot yoga and I think if I started snapping pictures in there, it would not go well for me.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I don't think people would appreciate that. Wait, I wanna talk about your yoga. I do not believe this. Are you limber? I do the splits at every wedding I go to. Do it. For real? Yeah. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Do you do it hands? I don't know if you noticed, I was sweating profusely earlier. Did you come from hot yoga? My body will just go like, I think we're in yoga class right now. And it'll just be like, really? At random times, like if I get a little hot, it's like we're there and we got to cool you off.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So let me ask you this. Are you in your hot yoga class? Are you one of the best in the class? Tell the truth. It's okay to brag a little. I feel like you're not supposed to think about it like that, but yeah, I mean, no one else is dropping into the splits. When they say half split, you know, the yoga move where you go, I go into the full splits and I like look around and I'm like, yeah, I mean, no one else is dropping into the splits. When they say half split, you know, the yoga move where you go, I go into the full splits
Starting point is 00:35:27 and I like look around and I'm like, yeah, I'm the only one doing that. Yeah, you are the envy of all yoga. How many men to women ratio in the class? So we're about a strong 5% of us in there. Men? Yeah, we're usually on the only one. And you're popping in the splits?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Oh, is that true? One or two maybe. I fucking love the splits in yoga, what's your favorite yoga pose? Uh Don't say downward dog It's a good foundational pose, but I think what's it called like a turtle was it the turtle? Guess you'd be like do it you can do it. It's an absurd thing where you try and bend anyway Favorite one. I think it's like a revolved warrior or something where you're in the warrior legs
Starting point is 00:36:09 and you're like, if my right leg was forward, my left arm would be up and you're revolving this way because you get the like spinal twist and the leg work. How often do you go? That's amazing you can do that because I can't do that. It's really fun. I got into it like two years ago and I really liked it. How often do you go?
Starting point is 00:36:25 When we're in town, I go like six days a week, but we're always gone now So it's probably was like ten days last month or so see this. These are your Colorado Great roots. Yeah, couldn't get too far away from yeah from my raisin Okay, here's another one two, had it or hit it game shows? Look, I don't watch them. So I'm going to say had it. So like, I like game shows. Whenever a game shows on, I'll watch it. But I'm not like, I'll be watching sports and it'll be like the 10th season of Can You Sing While Drowning? And I'm like, I've never heard of this show. So I, I'm going to say had it, but I would hit it.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Hit it. Jeopardy. Love Prices Right. Prices Right, Family Feud. I'm hitting it. When's the last time you watched it? Whenever it's on, I'll watch it. Yeah, when you're flipping through in a hotel.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And I'll lose like three hours to it. Yeah. And I won't regret it at all. I agree, I think it's a great, we grew up in the 80s, so it was either soap operas, All My Children, shout out E shout out Erica Kane and game shows. My mom learned English soap operas. Really learned to speak English.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So really dramatic person, I think because of it. How could you do such a thing? Yes. They, they, my parents, uh, you know, moved to America. My dad was born in Denver, but she's from Paris, well, Morocco, and then Paris. And then he was working all the time. And so she just had to try and learn English. And that was how she did it. It was soap opera.
Starting point is 00:37:55 So I have a unique appreciation for them. Are you fluent in French? Give me like a week or two there and I will be. Try something. You're just like a man of mystery. Right. Like you say, you act like you're from this fun town. and I will be. Try something. You're just like a man of mystery. Right, like a yoga in the fridge. You act like you're from this bumfuck town. I'm very on press.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Pretty mysterious. Jason knows all this stuff about me. He acts like he's from this bumfuck town in Colorado and here he is popping into the splits, solving game shows. Do you want me to do it or no? Do the splits, because I don't believe you. Yes, do it in jeez. Oh yeah, they're stretchy.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Okay, let's see it. I have only pants that splits can be done. He rips them at any wedding. Okay, last one. And then we'll close it out with the splits. Last one. Kamala Harris. Hit it.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Hit it. Yeah. I mean, what choice do we have right now? And in the country? There is no there is no. Also, I think she's done a good job. It's not just what what better choice do we have? It's like, not by no means perfect, but she
Starting point is 00:38:45 has really given Democrats a reason to to feel patriotic and voting for her. It doesn't feel like you don't. It's not just a hating Donald Trump vote at this point. It feels like she's taken the moment, sees the moment and given people I mean, at the DNC, you were there, you could feel that people were happy to be like ruminating in their their patriotic feelings that I don't think Democrats are known for for as much. So I think she's got a good job. I think she's really talented. I mean, very smart. I mean, I'm super excited about her. Right. Yeah, I think she's smart. I think she's capable. I think that, I mean, to be the attorney general of the largest state, the seventh largest economy in the world,
Starting point is 00:39:31 and a United States senator, she made Brett Kavanaugh cry, which always will hold a little soft spot in my heart. Toby and Squee, I like beer. Vice president. I just, I think it's time. I think it's time that we elect a woman. And I really like her. I'm all chips in.
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