Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 232 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Brian Simpson Et al.

Episode Date: July 23, 2021

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Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the J.R.E. review Join us always by my co-host Garrett. How you doing? But how's life out in Venice Beach? What's up fam? Super nice. I think you can see right behind me. It's a nice 75 degrees out today. We were just talking love it. Yeah, we're just talking about how Our restaurant actually has decreased the business of late. Like, I was just wondering too, you probably have a frame of reference on this.

Just like looking back on how populated California usually is during July and August. We're definitely seeing a drop off this year for sure. Obviously, given the circumstances. Oh, like the tourist on going out. Yeah, I was just talking to one of my co-workers here. We were talking about like how much the homeless situation has been affecting tourism. Especially your events, I think It makes sense. I saw something like Gavin Newsom released a statement about encouraging

The people homeless people to move out the California or something with some sort of $12 billion dollar budget plan. Discouraging or encouraging. Encouraging, saying that they should do that and they should move there and California should pay for it. You know, even talking about that makes me sound like, I'm not a Democrat anymore. That's not true. It's not.

Like, I wanna help you, but like this guy is, well, it's like, it's going in a strange direction. You think about, if you were gonna be homeless, this would be the ideal place to do it. Like, you can't really do it and say bozman. You can't, yeah, it's too cold up here. There's no option.

Cold option. And I get it. I mean, obviously, but like if you're already having a problem that's affecting tourism and it's affecting people that live there, why would you say we should have more people sharing here? I don't know. We've just... Like, that doesn't sound like you want to fix the problem.

It sounds like you just want to get a hold of that money so that you have allocation rights of 12 billion dollars. Keith, I mean, in relation to like what's it called? What's it called whenever there the war causes their mass military complex? I wonder if there's like a similar thought process like not similar, but it's like if you keep the homeless situation at bay who's benefiting is my point because it is the fact. Oh you're not you're talking about the like the military industrial products as like this almost like a giant corporation with a huge budget. Right. It's probably a similar thing. I mean, the governors want money allocated to them

so that they can dish it out to different places and everyone's scrounging for larger budgets with that. If you can just... And ultimately, you're probably... I mean, from a human standpoint, and like trying to progress yourself, you're looking for that budget. So ultimately it probably increases your salary, right?

I don't know. I don't think their salary changes, but in a sense you would assume that somebody's getting the money. There's got to be a reason, like they're getting their... Well, he's able to employ a lot of people, yeah, and I'm sure you can give some of it to his friends in some way, you know, get them employed. Anyway, it's a mess. I didn't like reading that, and I'm like, well done, once again. Let's jump on to the pods for the week. Who we got? Brian Simpson. He's hilarious.

Jesse Sengl and then Andrew Huberman. Is that what you say? Yeah, that guy's really, you know. And then Andrew Huberman. Is that what you say? Yeah, that guy's really in on. Mm, mm. Yeah, maybe too small. That was like hard to follow. I'm like, ah, right. And he cliff notes for this.

Sure. Brian Simpson, Joe's talked about him a few times. I wanna say like a new comic, but he's been doing it a while. It's just new to me, like I haven't heard of him before. So many of his stuff is very funny. You know, he's he's a great comedian and Tom Sigerra was really the guy that got him on the Joe and supported Brian early on and you know, oftentimes anyone that Tom really

enjoys is solid. Yeah, they just are. I mean, the Tom has a good eye for that for sure. I liked his story where he started in the military. Yeah. You know, and because of the like racial issues in there created that tension. And his strategy was there created that tension. And his strategy was to release that tension was just common. And I love that. It's like a perfect... I think that's the best avenue for it.

I think that's the best approach in any kind of... I mean, I'm glad he touched on that because I think that... It's not used enough in serious situations. If comedy was used, I feel like it's such a good thing to have comedy. I hate to say about like app funerals and stuff. Like in the times where you think you want comedy the least, especially probably in the military setting, it's like that's when you need to have it the most. Oh yeah, that's one that ever I think about it. Right. But honestly, when like situations are really tense, people are getting super serious

Especially if someone's about to argue right it's just seems like a great if you can cleverly slip in a bit of comedy You can really navigate past you can change people's I tend to you can change people's perspective. I was talking. There's a real negative Nancy. We have it work More or less, and I'm like I'm thinking to myself like the other day we're just all she I show up and it's almost laughable how United everybody is on the fact that she's just a downer and I was like I like oh I go I she I came into work and she said something I can't remember what it was I tried my best not to listen to it, but I just go, you're a glass half full kind of person there, aren't you? And she looked at me and she's like, I'm just realistic, okay? I'm just realistic. That must be what all glass half

empty. I'm just like, holy shit. I'm like, what is realistic? You have me like, what are you talking about? You just like decide what, like, there's a realistic and you just decided what it is. Well it's just fine. Yeah I guess. It's gotta be. Anyway yeah I think that coming back to the original point I think that comedy especially given that said I'm what a great way to utilize comedy and use it as a advantage. Yeah yeah I mean that's that's a perfect example of like that that story The Olympic thing they came back to and I don't know I can't remember if we talked about it But I have that sprinter was banned. Yeah, like I almost forgot it happens And but the Olympics hasn't even started yet and it's such Funny you say that because I just was watching Game 6 of the Finals rest in peace

to my sons, but last night that same Olympian was on one of the commercials, she's getting paid one way or another. I'd tell you that because she was on like a prime time commercial with the Nike's on. I can't remember if it was for Nike or like a speaker, like a beat spike. I think it might have been for beats by Dre or something like that, but she definitely got some endorsements for doing that too. So she's catching some money on the back end, but how stupid of a thing for them to still impose the fact that you can't just read just so silly. Well, she can she can run still in the relay. No, I think I don't know if she left. I think Jamie discurred this, this, this, uh, made that clarified the fact that it wasn't

the actual case. That's what they said initially. Oh, he got that wrong. But, uh, I think, come on, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he, he got it right. He debunked it and said that she wasn't able to do anything. They, they weren't, they, they kicked it out. They kicked it out.

Not which makes a lot more sense, right? Yeah, I mean, at least it's consistent, but it's still wrong. So I like how Joe really pushed for everyone to watch Icarus Like he he basically kind of pulls the podcast and said everyone go Like he is fucking really not a fan of the language and I don't remember another time not a fan of the L.A.D. I don't remember another time that other than like suggesting things and kind of bringing up things that are useful I don't think he's ever stopped to make the point hey watch this before the Olympics is on just so you know how much Well, it's that's what I was gonna say. It's kind of like watching like the WWF to some extent, you know what I mean? Like if you really want to look there's guys are fucking amazing athletes That's not get it twisted but at the end of the day

It is like some of them are at an advantage and some of them aren't like that's kind of a wild scenario Andy was talking about how they don't make any money like the only people that's making money are Advotite advertisers in the city that the Olympics are in like the actual athletes. I don't think are making any money So no and now this like this campaign to encourage them not to have set the city that the Olympics are in, like the actual athletes I don't think are making any money. So no. And now there's like this campaign to encourage them not to have sex. No money or sex. It's like wait a minute. What are they? Francis can munch now. What are the two things that usually drive people in general? Yeah. Gold medals. No. Only gold medals now. That's all you can focus on. Gold medals. Yeah. You want to check out my gold medal and my tent that I have Yeah, it might tent in my celibate tent

Celebacy tent. Yeah, that does not sound something that I want to be a part of Talking about things to be a part of Joe mentioned a lot to Brian and this one like the camaraderie that all of the comedians have together and I love that he like reiterates that point when it comes to comedians. He's almost like creating this, this like ethos. That's how it's supposed to be. Like structure. Yeah, exactly. He's almost like creating this this like ethos Yeah, exactly. It's like this is what we do now It wasn't always that way like Joe's talked about that in the past like comics were always fighting for position But he's like all these new up and comas. He's being he's like constantly

Creating this environment where it's like you you look, we all support each other. And that's something that I hope spills into. I don't even say it. Every word. I should reflect in every career, every relationship, everything. This scarcity mindset that we have as humans in general is just silly and naive.

Like, there's enough for everybody. It's like, and I want to enjoy everybody. It's like a thing that they have to add, especially when it comes to the comedy. It's like, and I want to enjoy everybody's like thing that they have to add, especially when it comes to comedy. It's like, what do you want? You I want to find the funniest people that made me laugh the hardest or whatever. I mean, and I don't want it to be looked at is like, there's only so much time and there's only so much space. Like, I want to hear all the jokes. I want to hear all the funny stuff, you know? It's it's kind of like a fan as fact about stuff, you know? It's kind of like a fairness factor though. People, you know, think about corporations

where you're vying for the next position. And there's only so many. And, you know, everybody's kind of positioning themselves and then you're chasing that promotion and you're chasing that big account. I mean, it makes sense that our default position is scarcity. Like, we don't feel we have enough and we have to do everything we can. That's probably just to get it. Survival mindset to a lot of the time, right?

Yeah. And it's probably important to have under a lot of circumstances. But most of the time I would imagine if you realize that encouraging others helping them, you know getting the word out for them, you're really just creating a much stronger community, which is a better. It's instead of like it's us versus their mentality. It's like we're all in this together type of thing, which... I'm sure in the long run is a better strategy for it. Did you ever, for like doing it? Did you ever have any inclination to everyone joining some kind of military forces at any point?

Oh yeah, I tried to sign up for the Coast Guard when I was finishing up high school, but because of my Britishness Because I wasn't a citizen yet. They couldn't they couldn't get me signed up But yeah, I wanted to join the Coast Guard had a bunch of friends in the Coast Guard what and They seem to really like it and I thought that it would be like the ocean police that it would be good. What are they like the ocean police? It kind of, yeah, it's definitely the smallest branch of the military.

I once heard that the Coast Guard have less active members than there are like New York City police. Interesting. So, but yeah, they do like, trying to find like, the trafficking stuff and a lot of that, and they do. But they also save people and they've got kind of like, I guess it's not really considered a special forces branch, but they have these like super

advanced swimmers. I mean, Ranger Cossacks. Well, it's just like a specialized swimmer that goes in and rescues people from the ocean. And they're requirements are super high for that. But there's some bad ass shit that the Coast Guads do for sure. But they're not very big branch. No, not sure. Yeah, they're not massively. Did you ever think of joining? I was always pretty non wanting to do that. But I do remember the military calling me up when I was like about to graduate high school.

Somebody with some branch, I think it was the Marines and they said have you ever been to the doctor for anything serious and I told them about my open heart surgery and they were like no we're not gonna need you. So I was already I think if I pushed for it I probably could have gotten in but I wasn't something I was already like exempt from it since I had I was born with a hole in my heart so they thought I guess that was enough for them to say, nah, I don't know. Oh, I get it. Yeah, they used to not let people

infillate being flat-foted and all sorts of stuff, but they do now. They're like, that's not a problem. We'll let you die for us. Yeah. On your flat feet. Yeah, I always thought it was an interesting thing to fight for somebody else's agenda in a weird hippie way

I guess that's my hippie mentality, but I never saw the thought that I would do that Hmm that was kind of out. Hey, it's good, you know, it's a good career for a lot of people Especially people it seems like people that have like some troubled youth a lot of the time have a tendency of flourishing in that kind of environment a lot of the time. Yeah, well, it never hurts that bit of structure. Those guys that kick your ass in gear for sure. There is a bit, I mean, they will break you. They will win. They're, I always thought it would be an interesting thing to like either go through like NFL training camp or to go through like military boot camp just to see what it would be like and see if you could hang. Right?

Yeah, it would be rough. I think halfway through doing it, you'd be like, why the fuck did I sign up for this? What was I always trying to put? I don't know. There's got to be a certain sense of accomplishment at the end of that. I'm sure. I made it through. Yeah. Who knows. I was just,

yeah, it's funny how life has a way of putting everything in perspective too, because I was talking about that negative, Nancy or whatever. It's like probably in that situation, if you're out in the middle of nowhere with all your guys, the type of camaraderie that you develop with some of those guys, it's got to be like amazing. Some of the guy, I remember that, I had a buddy that when I was going through what was it to when I was trying to become a paramedic or a firefighter, I took my EMT class and there was a guy that was an army ranger that was in there and he was telling me the way that he was describing like his other buddies. He was like, I knew how how they smelled like that's how close you are with them. Like I could, I knew like I knew how their hair smelled like it. That's how close you are with them like I could I knew

Like I knew how their hair felt like he's like you were so close to these guys for so long and such like tight quarters That it was like you knew every minute detail with like without trying it was just like second nature It almost sounds like it almost does saying it but at the end of the day It's like that's I guess that's who I would want with me in that kind of situation Well, you definitely don't want a half would be glasses Like it's good to have some cautious people on your team like hey, she run up by Hill and shoot every and they're like Man, maybe this is a bit dangerous, but you know that I would say is more realistic But yeah, you don't want someone that's like, we're all gonna die, dude.

That's okay. We'll get ready first and then we'll figure it out. The one bit that I really liked to the end of the Brian podcast that released that out to me was when he was talking about aliens coming down and if they really are abducting us to like get us boom and like Steel eggs or whatever why not just bring down super hot Chips smart that are Drone I wouldn't you they just want one nice dance. Why wouldn't you do that a hundred times out of a hundred? Dude, I wonder if like honestly if they even got back to your place and were like oh just real quick I'm one of those alien drone things

Is that gonna be a problem? 99% of the time the dudes are like this is literally 100% of the time that's gone. Yeah without a doubt on in. Oh, you can go take a little of this. You need all my sperm and you're going to go start some intergalactic war, but you're this hot chick right now at one o'clock in the morning. And I've never been laid before in my life. Yeah, you can have all my sperm. Yeah, guaranteed. I guess some nerds might fall in love with them and be like, will you come back? And they're like, no, I'm

a robot. I don't have time for this. I'm sorry. I already know it. Send your post back. I'll send you a picture of your sperm, what we made of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They just started text writing. I imagine that that's what somehow the how God made us. We somehow need to keep evolving and no matter what, even if it's an alien, we're still going to find a way. I mean, that conversation alone highlighted how Stone is going to take down my podcast. They were high as far. And that is about his Stone uh, a thought. Not as smart as King come up. It's great.

It's brilliant at that. But yeah, we'll take it. Yeah. Let's jump over to Jesse's single. Single. Is it single or signal? Sing, sing out. I don't know. I just don't know. Anyway. Bless him. We apologize Jesse. He's not less. The question is should Joe have people on that are controversial? That's how

Jesse started it. That was like that that was the point of contention, like Alex Jones and so on. And Joe defended it like he does and you know, think whatever you want of Alex. Like I'm amused by his bias. I look forward to him because they're nuts. But I don't, it's not like I sit there going, yeah, this is what we need to believe. And he said some messed up stuff. Yeah, right. But it is hard to argue with the fact that he has come up with some things that people need to look at.

He just does it in such a... What did he do? What did he actually do with that sandy hook? He just negated the fact that sandy hook ever happened. Is that what happened? Oh, yeah. He messed that up a big time. It was like, I guess he was drinking messed that up big time. It was like, I

guess he was drinking a lot during that time and was just a bit of a mess and yeah, he said it was, I don't know too much about it, but I think he said that it was all fate and the parents were in on it and these kids never existed and it was just this like anti-gun movement. I mean damn. Whenever, you know, it's almost like, okay, bro, that's a tough one to ever call it. Whenever kids are involved, too, you're always going to have a serious blowback, but I get what you're saying, too. But yeah. Yeah. And it makes sense. They should. I mean, you know, maybe that was a wake-up call for him. Like I'm not saying that people shouldn't say what they say in his

Continued to say his defense. He recognizes what he did. I mean every time I've heard him ever talk about the sandy hook thing He says that was a misstep not to defend off Jones, but is that accurate? Yeah, yeah, he politics for that. That's what is that enough? That's what Joseph to it's like and I think that's a good Like I'm glad we're bringing this up because it's like and I think that's a good like I'm glad we're bringing this up because it's like how many times you need to apologize or how many times until we're finally like I would forgive you moving forward because who casts the first zone I'm not defending anything how as Jones does but I think even in like what just in this real cancel culture kind of like mentality everybody has. It's like, what if

you just acknowledged what you did and didn't deny it and then said, all right, I did that moving forward. I think that what we've had this conversation before too, what if people just did that? Because I have much more app to like want to forgive somebody that acknowledges what the fuck they did. And yeah, the question for me is like, you know, people will do really stupid things. Right. Like, who is that dopey swimmer? Michael felt like the other one. He's handsome. He had like his own show and it was like a reality show, but then he like, I think that he was like in the Brazilian Olympics and did some like really stupid shit at a gas station. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I can't remember his name, but yeah, it was like Michael Phelps' name. Yeah, whoever that dope is, and he is God bless and one of the dumbest people I've ever heard speak. Like really just said some cool stuff. But Oprah had him on, right? After that event. So it's like, you know, you can have people that do stupid and, you know, maybe terrible things

on your show, but only if you're gonna talk about that and then crush him for it. Right. Whereas, I mean, Joe's not bringing Alex on to give him a hard time about Sandy Hook, though he has done it. But I just feel like, look, it's Joe's show. Right. Like, why should he ever be told who to have on? Right. Is he just trying to get to have a conversation with somebody that he's interested to discuss?

Does that annoy you a little bit whenever he's like, the news line will read Joe says blank blank blank. Remember, he, I was like, I didn't stop saying that, like just leave it alone. Yeah, he definitely thought he was fine. I'm glad I wasn't knowing when that was like, uh, I don't care. Well, bless him.

I mean, you know, he's a smart guy. He has strong opinions, but he's a nerd. So he was trying to fit in and he was probably nervous as well and having a drink and getting a bit loose and then, you know, kind of all over the place with it. Yeah, I'm curious. I mean, if you got interviewed by Joe, would you would you be nervous? I don't think I would be nervous Not to say that I'm whatever Not awestruck by like Celebrities or whatever, but I just feel like I guess it's since we covered so frequently It's a bit it's a big show though. I mean, there's you know in this guy. I mean just he's very aware of his place on like social media and

And all the rest of it and you know that's obviously gonna um was he saying that he does read the comments right? he does yeah I mean Joe seems like some like revolutionary thought process to not need the comments he's like if you ever have anxiety or anything don't read the comments it's bringing pretty fucking simple and you know he's like, if you're ever having anxiety or anything, don't read the comments. It's bringing pretty fucking simple. And, you know, he's thinking about this. So it's probably adjusting, like, affecting the way that he's talking. And it does it.

I see it with people that I've done podcasts with, like, they're thinking about the audience in the sense of judgment. And then it gets in the way they're conversation. Like, I've spoken to these people in real life. And they don't speak like this. So it's kind of hard sometimes to get their attention and be like, hey, you're just talking to me. Don't worry about anyone listening.

Well, the authenticity part is. And then you can get them to say outrageous things, which is the funniest part of it. Feed them whiskey and weed and you find out what everyone. Sometimes that I think. Sometimes that I think. What were they talking about the psychedelics? He was talking about maybe doing the little mushrooms.

I think he said he'd never done it before since he was so neurotic. Joe was trying to like, hmm, well, he freaked out with, uh, we've been here a hard time. So Joe was like, go easy, bro, go easy. Well, you know, Joe said something really interesting It was like marijuana is like a hammer. You can build a house with it. Oh, you can smash yourself in the dick Which is great. That's a fucking great quote. It's definitely a Joe wrote I think that's goes for like a lot of different things on life You know what I mean like I like to the hammer analogy

But you can use that analogy when a lot of different facets of life Like a lot of things that if used in the right way Can be magnificent, but if used in the wrong way can be real detrimental Yeah a good relationship can Improve your life greatly and give you a purpose for existence plus Making kids and a family and generations of love and it can also be completely destabilizing and completely fuck up. You're totally bad for your body and stress and everything. In every way it goes you to dream. That's a good point. You go one of two, go a couple of different

things. A lot of things, a lot of things, a lot of that. What did you think of that guy that was facing 40 years in jail for both of them? So dumb. Wall-on parole and text. What are we trying to prove? And who are you proving it to? I don't understand. It's not like I'm like, oh good, good call. Like is anybody behind the scenes being like, are we really setting a precedent now? This is the right thing to do.

Anybody that hears that story is like, what in God's name are you thinking? Like, like I paid his, that is crazy to me. And it's like nobody's getting. And he didn't even know. And to sit there and say, this is like you are undermining the,

like you're like number one, it's one, right? Like chill. Number two, you, number two, I'm sure if there were like, there's a chance you'll go back to jail if you do this. He would definitely not do it. He didn't even, right. Like, why don't you just,

he didn't even know. I just tell the guy, hey, you can't do that, you're on parole. Okay, got it. He waited in line for like, you know how much they waited in line for a couple of years. You know what I'm saying? 40 years of jail would,

would cause the taxpayer. So much money. Like people in Texas have to pay for this person to be in jail that long for one vote it's like you could straight up bankrupt the entire country if you were pushing that across the board that's a tough pill this wall I don't know I hope that that I wonder if he was facing that I hope that that didn't come to fruition, but who knows? Yeah, I mean, maybe it's one of those things that that's how the story starts and it doesn't become this and maybe it's just one of those scared tactics to make sure people aren't parole on doing things like that. That's chaos to me. I mean, I can't even imagine, But there's a lot of other dumb stuff.

And talking about that, that's scary enough. But they talked together about how life itself is crazy and scary. People often are like, yeah, everything's great. Everything's just like, look, I get it. You're having fun. But it's difficult out there. There's a lot of challenges that we all face and and if you really take a step back, I mean you think of like how many weeks ahead you could pay for your bills or what minor

changes would have to happen before a lot of your life would destabilize, right? I mean even look at renters in Venice, like nobody's owns their own home, you're all renters, you could all get kicked out, and like, things just gonna happen real fast. And just because they don't, doesn't mean that it's not on the verge of it. So what does that mean?

Panic all the time, no, obviously. But like, even Joseph, no matter how successful and accomplished he gets, never feels quote unquote fine Uh, yeah, I mean, I think that's a good thing. You don't want to get comfortable because if you get comfortable and you've arrived then what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, not too comfortable. I mean, that's a tough thing because we all fight for comfort. I get it I'd say fight for a day off fight for an evening off I get it. I'd say fight for a day off, fight for an evening off, work hard, and then get it so that you've got a couple of days, just a chill or a vacation, but don't for weeks and weeks and months and months just sit there going, everything's good. I'm just plotting

on without really pushing yourself because it might lead to something very crazy and very stressed out. I love that term. Choose your heart. So it's like, if you choose to do hard things, then life seems to be a lot easier from my perspective. I know you have to share similar mentality, but it's like, if you're choosing to do difficult things, especially when it comes to physical exertion, it has a tendency of making the extremities and other like I don't want to say small things but the things that we think are huge in life much much more manageable I find. Yeah, and not just hard things, things that build upon themselves. I mean, if you were just lifting up the same rock every day, there was incredibly hard.

Sure, you'd be in good shape and you'd be good at lifting that rock and you'd be motivated to do it and you'd be consistent. But after 20 years of rock lifting, it's not going to be very useful. So just like in this and be careful what you choose to get good at, just like that racket ball player Joe was talking about, that he knew, like be careful not to learn something that's not going to have value. That one though, I kind of, I don't know if I fully agree with that. Because, all right, this guy wasn't able to make tons of money doing it, but he could be a great racer ball coach. And he mastered that skill.

I almost feel like without putting pressure, you never know. Like when we were growing up, our parents said don't play video games. Kids now are making millions of dollars. And you never know. Like when we were growing up, our parents said don't play video games. Kids now are making millions of dollars. And you figure it. Because they got really good. There's a lot of a good point too, because my brother is like, I mean,

blatantly his business is based around providing a service for people. If people want to get good at racket ball, they're probably going to seek out the best racket ball player. So if you do have that on your resume, then you can charge money to teach people how to be, like you said, in anything you want, then you can charge money to teach people how to be like you said and anything

What you can be a coach ultimately. Yeah, don't don't like rich people play I'm not sure like country clubs. I mean I like how if they pay you to teach you Sure, they're like you could probably make it always to make money be in the best fucking whatever Brick layer. I'm sure too. They're always seeking out. You know what I mean, they're always seeking out. Oh, of course. So you can make a lot of money to getting, doing construction and getting good at those skills. Those trades are some super, do you have any of those construction? You kind of learned a few over the past year, haven't you?

Yeah, I know some tiling, I can do tiling, I can build walls, landscaping. I did for a while when I was younger. And then like kind of general DIY stuff for the house when I was like immigrating through here. I did a lot of work like that in Ohio. And you know, putting up light fixtures, electrical things, painting, trim work. I mean, basic stuff, but it's useful skills to have. Definitely useful skills to have. Those are ones that are not readily over, those are not overlooked,

because you can always use those. Yeah, I mean one job I really didn't learn anything from was cleaning out stables in the winter. I mean literally shoveling shit. That's why that expression exists, and that's a good example. You shovel shit for 20 years. You're going to realize you don't. That was like, so, so think about it. It doesn't mean everything has to build on each other. Like when I go to the gym and lift weights, that's not really building on anything. But it keeps my body strong to go do rock climbing, which I get better at, to Jetsu, which I get better at. Yeah, I'm in shape for hunting, for bow hunting season, which I get better at. Jim in general just has a psychological impact on me too, as far as like getting rid of a lot of excess energy and just like mentally working through some things that provides a lot of big avenue for that for me Yeah, I think it gives you a lot of energy Absolutely if you're not if you're not getting your body to produce a lot of energy each day It stops doing it and you're almost more tired, which is weird. It's not like anything else

Like the more you drive your car the quicker you weigh your car out the body doesn't really work like that. It's good point Yeah, I think so we're talking about health and all that bullshit. Let's jump over to Andrew Huberman. This one, I mean, I listen to this guy on Lex too, and he's just, he has a lot of information. He's a neuroscientist. Yeah, a very smart guy. I didn't really write down a lot of the different things

he was talking about. The melatonin thing was interesting, because I take that, and I've heard some, or like seen some articles to talk about how it's useful for like long-term cognitive health, but I'd never heard that it can fuck up your testosterone before. And that makes me not wanna take it.

Do you take, I heard that it could, I to take it regularly because I would it would put me right to sleep and I was having difficulty sleeping for a little bit but those dreams that I did have on you have crazy dreams on it dude I bet I basically never remember my dreams I would I wouldn't remember but I wouldn't remember how intense it was I don't really remember my details of the dreams, but I remember that was fucking intense. But what I have heard about Malatona is that once you start messing with the levels, like if you start taking it all the time, then it has an impact on your brain, how much it produces, and can mess up over the long term.

I don't know. I guess only time can tell on that, but I don't know. It's like a vitamin you could take over the counter. So I wanna believe that it wouldn't affect you, but I've heard different things. Yeah, I don't know what to think. In Europe, I know you need, I think you need a prescription for it,

at least in England you do. And that is because they were giving it to, like old people, in old people's homes to like get them to sleep all the time so they didn't have to like take care of them. It's kind of messed up. Well, they just made it, they just made it so that it's much harder to get a hold of.

Like here, you can just buy it off Amazon. Like it's not bad. I don't know. I don't know, man. I still take it. I think I'm going to. But it doesn't mean this guy doesn't know what he's not bad. I don't know. I don't know, man. I still take it. I think I'm going to. But it doesn't mean this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. But he kind of said it in a way like I have a hunch. Right. Like he didn't have like this is clear facts and, you know, we should go down exactly to it this way. So was it was this time we'll tell without what do you talk about

magnesium 3 and 8 and a pigeon a pie or something? Yeah he was a pie and he did a different things. He's saying that's much better for getting to sleep and then also kind of I guess helps build some testosterone or is like precursor to it. You were saying the sauna has a tendency of doing that too, didn't you make a reference to that? Yeah, yeah, the sauna is a big one. The fasting kind of also helps with like, The fasting kind of also helps with like bumping Growth hormone would you be game for HGH? I think we've had this conversation before I think the fact that Joe's so like proponent for it makes me want to get a shot

But I've never done any kind I mean, I'm not opposed to the idea of it But if they could find ways like he's talking about like taking things that are precursors, what did you say? There's a 16-fold growth or like enhancement in human growth hormone release with sores. 16-fold, whatever the heck that means. 16 times. I mean that's a lot. Get in the soreness. I'm for sure those are like massively beneficial If you can't get in there and sweat your bowls off you got to find a place where you do it This guy at the song like very well Sonno today was telling me it's funny how he told the story was talking about that Russian son of that You had been told tell me about and but he said that he did

He did this thing in like Norway where they all were sitting in the sauna pounded a beer and then ran outside and jumped in the snowhead first and he's like I thought it was gonna be shitty he was like it was way shitier when he told the story was hilarious but I was like I don't know if I'm there's a whole lot of times where I've anticipated something being real shitty and then being worse than I anticipated it. I don't know how often that's how it really happened. I was at the like the cold plunge earlier today at the hot springs I go to and these two guys, big guys too, they got in and they obviously don't do cold plunge as much. And it's so interesting to watch like how difficult it is and how much people are shivering. Of course, I was exactly the same way before I did it every day.

Now, it's so interesting how it's mental. You think the shaking is 100%. Oh, this is just a reaction because of how cold it is and you have to warm up. But when you do it a lot, I don't go through a shaking phase. There's just an initial shock, which my brain is kind of used to because I do it a lot. And bear in mind, I used to be a huge pussy about this. I fucking hated the cold. I did not like getting in there. I like, I embrace cold weather, but not freezing in a puddle. I learned how to, I think I told you over the past 100 and some days, like I jumped the

first shower I take after the gym as a freezing cold shower every day. I'm just like, every time I get in, I'm like, all right, overcome. That's the only thing that goes through my mind, overcome. Right, but it takes, it took time to get there, right? It's not. Well, yes and no, but you can choose to do that

in a moment's time. You don't need, like, people are like, I'll do this, I'll do this. It's like, don't start now and do this moment right now and then build on that. But the idea that you're gonna somehow do three weeks of work in one day, it's just not gonna happen. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, you have to build up to it. People are always like, and that consists. Once I do that, once I work out, I'll let you know one of the guys that was working out with the day is like, if I just did this for three weeks, straight, I'd be back in shape and I'm like, well, that's good that you started with today. Let's get here tomorrow.

What's not think about three weeks from now? Let's just start getting every day and one foot in front of the other. Yeah. Yeah. Like I like the habit that has been created from it. You know, it's, I think I was first introduced to that when Wim Hof came on Rogan's podcast like all his cold stuff

Really made me think more and more about it, but I kind of I did I put it off for like you It's like I had that information, but I didn't really I was like You probably had well, it's funny when I tell people like they're the five non-negotiable And then I mentioned the cold shower every day and like I could do all that stuff But the cold shower I just couldn't do it. I'm like, uh, you can do anything you want to do first of all, second of all. The cold. Well, I, yes, anyone can do cold showers for sure. It just for suck. Like you won't die, you won't pass out, you won't go high. The thing I always try and say and I've said this to you too, it makes the hot shower that much nicer and it's just like the working out thing you earned,

it's the reward is far better than any, like just get, if you were to have every day off, it wouldn't be as rewarding as working five hard days and then taking a day off, you know? Hmm, hmm, I don't know. What stood out to me with some of this though, like you say about what you wanna to take the testosterone the growth hormone I'm more keen to hear the future of like stem cells and then he was banging on about peptides a lot like peptides

All that like precursor to I think that was the precursor test Like getting those peptides in your body because then you kind of make it more naturally and it's not depleting your own body's ability to make the testosterone. My feeling is always like, if I ever stop doing something, you know, can my body go back to some sort of a baseline, right? And we know with the testosterone, you can't really do that. If you start taking it for a long period of time Then your body's not gonna make it right. It's gonna be a problem

So if you can find things that just boost it Now, but if you stop with it, it's still in a good shape because you don't want to get to like 60 and then you just have this like weekly regimen. It's like $20,000 of Shit that you're pumping in your body And if you ever stop Your your your body just completely falls apart. Well, I'm thinking that about melatonin too I'm wondering if your body becomes reliant on that to fall asleep eventually Was my I

Don't know if that's just the case. I haven't actually heard anything about that. I'm pretty sure that your body just still makes The amount that it needs. I know it's important to take it at the right time Like don't take it in the day or like if you wake up in the middle of the night And you only have three hours of sleep left don't take it then because you're gonna be full of it in the morning You're being messed up. Not not not It probably the biggest thing is not using your phone and having a lot of lights on like later night, you know, or drinking like coffee into the afternoon, which I often do because I am addicted.

I wouldn't say I drink coffee after the noon, but I do drink it up until about not even cognitively. I'm just kind of associated with coffee. That's always been my association. I wanted to touch on this too before we got off because California has re-implemented the mask mandate. Did I tell you that? Good old folks. This will be my first day back to work where they're trying to enforce the mask mandate. And dude, I read this meme that said like you

turn like you turn me into this person but I that's how that's really how I feel at this point like especially like living here it's like the idea that I would go back to wearing a mask it just feels like very I don't want to say like uh I don't know I just feels really dumb I'll just say that I feel like a real idiot doing it just because it's like Oh, now I'll go back to asking you what I should do again. That's how I feel like what do I do today? I'm like I never signed up for that like I never signed up Look and people can jump on your case about this whole well It's a safety thing and there's been but knowing that like we're not doing a hit right. Did you watch the NBA finals last night and Milwaukee there was fucking 50,000 people on the streets

rooting it's like oh COVID didn't show up to Milwaukee but it's here in California. That's interesting. It's only here in LA. Wasn't that fucking wild? Get the fuck out of my face. It's like dude. I love it when you get worked. It's just unbelievable that we're all adults and we all see it. And there's so many people that are still just being sheep like, uh, well, what do we do? We're looking to the government, we're looking to the government for some kind of like, like, like, knowledge or since when have they been on our side and since when, if this last year has not showed you anything, you need to wake the fuck up.

They're not on your side. They're not on your side, but they're there to make the check. That's what they're there to do. Yeah, but it's almost the thing you can't push back against. What do you use to not? Like, what are you gonna start like a protest, a non-mask wearing protest? Like it's, you know, they say, oh, it's just temporary.

And it's not a big, but it's like, hold on a second. What are we really doing? Are you really actually helping anybody? With, especially if you're outside, once again, they already have proved that this is not spreading outside. So if there's a mask man, they outside, or in restaurants, I'm pretty sure it's just for inside, but it's I bet it's going to also cover patio spaces of restaurants. I hope not. I don't know. I don't know if that's the case. I think that well once you're sitting down, COVID doesn't come out. You know that right.

That's true. You can eat that. You will be good. That that we know. I know. I was thinking can drink. Well, I was thinking to myself, if you have to, if you have to, if you have to order, if you can order it with your knees bent, I'm just thinking to myself, like, can I just go to the bathroom as long as I keep my knees bent the whole way because I'll be, I'll be, I'll be sliding under the COVID threshold

of where it goes, right? Because when you're sitting, yeah, that's a four feet high. Anyone under four feet doesn't get I mean these are the sorts of rules that popped up with this. You're like what are we supposed to do? They're like, please stand on one leg while at the DMV. So you don't get to ride eye and COVID doesn't come into your left. So you're right ear though. You might want to cover that up with a mask. Oh, there just so you know, the the Uber and left drive is going on strike tonight.

Did you really? On the album in California. So don't expect to get and lift. I mean, I'm probably not all of them, but I'm all the same. This is the time to join the lift. See, open your app and see if you can even call on now. I mean, it's early in the day, but maybe they've already started. How are you going to get everybody on board with that?

I don't know, but they want to. So, I think it'd be interesting to see, maybe there'd be some dissenters, and they're stringing on that. Yeah, that's a, I mean, if you're paying somewhere, a lot of these people don't have incomes otherwise Especially because of the circumstances it's interesting out here with the How difficult it is for people to Get good people working in the restaurant business right now so many people do there's employee shortages every

It's unreal. I'm like where where is everybody was not That's not, that's the thing everybody's collecting that unemployment still. It's crazy. I'm still getting emails with them trying to make me resertify for my unemployment. Like they want me to have it even though I have a job. Like they're trying to get me to do it again. Like literally, like get these email. Is there any part of you that just says don't work and take free money? No, not going back. I mean, I remember when I was doing this before and I was like, I mean, it's nice. This is bizarre, but I really enjoy the, no, not a chance. I'd rather work and make the same amount of money than not work and make the same amount of money. Yeah, good for you, man. Good for you. That's just a better attitude to have.

Because I think it depresses you if you don't, if you're not really hustling yourself, like, it'd depress you. It's like a trap to have a year off. You just did a year of, unless you went and got a brand new skill or you started to learn the trade, I mean, it's a trap. Yeah, luckily I took advantage of it pretty well with I was talking to my buddy today.

I was like, I'm pretty much the exact person they were talking about during COVID that they didn't want to be doing because I was traveling everywhere, doing everything I normally did, but also taking care of myself at the same time. So this past year was the healthiest year I've ever had, most financial beneficial I've ever had. It was all how you framed it. Like people were just like COVID ruined my life. It's like a horrid, I mean, you're a perfect example. It's, I mean, it's taken different avenues for you, but at the end of the day, like you're, you've made so many good strides in the right direction that maybe I mean

Covid may have done some things and in retrospect that Put you there now, but I think in the long run it's gonna be the most beneficial thing that ever happened Oh, well, I definitely hustled I definitely hustled through you can't say that I didn't I mean that's there's a gratification I didn't sit around taking free Modification not that I'm opposed to it like people do what you need to do, but I was fortunate to have the way in it And all unfolded but a find to go back and say can I what I I don't know I was like I had a year long fucking summer vacation It was interesting, but yeah Well on that note I think it's

I Don't know I just hope we don't go back. I hope that it never happens again Like we find better solutions for this. There's always gonna be diseases. There's always gonna be a flu There's always gonna probably now be a code. I can tell you right now. We can't just go to shut the right time I move out there with you. I'd move somewhere. I wouldn't ride that. I would not ride another shutdown out here in California. I just wouldn't do it. I get it. I don't think a lot of people would. All right guys. Well, thanks for joining. As always, we appreciate you. Uh, messages, any questions or whatever. The link to the emails in the bio and you can find other info there. We love you guys, we appreciate you and we'll speak to you next time.

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