Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 237 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Lex Friedman Et al.

Episode Date: August 25, 2021

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Again, that's better, help.com slash review. Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. Join us always by my co-host who's uh, birthday it is today. I just found that out. Happy birthday, Garrett. Happy birthday, my brother. I'm Jamaica road boy. 39. So I am, I am basically exactly a year older than you Yeah, totally two times two times smarter Just the accent Fools everybody There no all right, so this week was an interesting week Lex was on love Lex

I have to say anytime he's on, I can't wait to do a pod with him. And then Neil Blomkamp was truly fascinating podcast. I mean, I've loved that guy's movies forever. I had no idea who he was or why he was making him and any of those. But we're're gonna skip over Zubi and Megan Murphy only because not that their conversations weren't interesting, but Zubi was basically all COVID stuff and opinions and Megan Murphy was like all kind of like gender issue stuff which

To be honest these, like they're coming up a lot and we have to talk about it a lot because it gets covered on his podcast, but honestly, sometimes I don't think I talk about it. If you're into it and you need to top up, listen to those ones, but otherwise, we're gonna, we're gonna stick with Lex and you know, we got to mitigate the mitigate that stuff, but dude all I know is this if I'm getting super bored of talking about guaranteed people getting super bored of listening to it. I like it's weird thumb and thumb. I mean we don't have to mention to it, but it's just like why it seems like this cancel idea It's always just like that's like the new like fun thing to do like it's almost like a weird like hunger games kind of fucking feeling It's like people love see I don't understand is that like I was just talking to my girl like what's about like human nature?

And it's like only humans would do that that These kinds of behaviors, like literally only humans. Like animals don't do this shit to each other. Yeah, I mean, honestly, you can see it in so many aspects of life. I guarantee that the average review of anything, an Amazon product, you know, a movie or a show on Netflix or even a podcast is like significantly lower during cancel culture because people are just more mad about it.

It just seems like that's the narrative now. It's like that's what everybody wants to focus on. I hope that other people are finding it vaguely humorous at this point. Like, I hope you can find the humor in that because it's just like we've really pushed the envelope so fucking far at this point Now it's like what else is there? Yeah, I don't know I don't know Gavin Newsom. Yes, I'm all about it recall him. He ruined the state during COVID. I don't know if you can't tell me that

That said, I don't know if you can't so that I just don't give him this like we just don't give him the platform like that's all just Be a little bit. Yeah, I hope he has a good life and carries on just I don't care. I don't care. I'm in scam and light When you put it anymore, but well that seems to be the like the common theme of politicians Yeah, they love that. I think that's why they get into it so they can scam and lie. I mean, what? And that's what you would hope they would get into it with the mindset of like, I want to change culture. I want to change humanity at some level. I would love it. Yeah, good luck. I mean, with it, but the thing that when you make it into a job and you have a salary for that kind of occupation, it seems like you need to seek that out.

Yeah. Without, like compensation, I would assume. Yeah, I don't know. It's, uh, they- It'd be good to have best of both worlds, but it's like that seems like those are kind of, they don't, that's like a conflict of interest. And then it's money and power, man. That's what they want. Right. And power is too addictive, so they forget what what they even we're trying to get in that form

And they don't have reelection bullshit like as soon as they're in there starting to think about getting elected again I mean, it's it's a it's a slippery slope even for them. I get it. Is that like it? Is that like a? I'm sure we'll get into a Neil about him talking about characters and whatnot But like you think that's like a character trait to like desire power like what that has to be like some sort of and Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just that it's so addictive that Once people get a taste for it and realize what they can do with it. They they can't they don't want to give it up ever Do you do you ever does I I'm not trying to say that I'm some enlightened being I just don't know that I really desire any power Over anybody like it doesn't seem peaceful. I guess it depends like how you define it right? I mean pretty much everybody wants a lot of money

and money is power. And then to say you don't want power over the people, I mean, money buys you that in a sense. Like, people will do things for you because you can pay them. Sure. So I always think about money as freedom, but I guess that could be associated with what you're saying

because it provides you that option. Well, it does depend on how you spend it, obviously. But yeah, I don't know. I think that anybody can get, it's a slippery slope, so anybody can get tricked by it. And before you know it, you're in deep. And then you're starting to really,

you know, your values are getting tested at that point probably yeah the panel money more problems but yeah we don't have to worry about that so we just have a bunch of problems and we're poor our lives are pretty fucking good but I'm happy yeah I'm a happy guy not too many complaints I try not to get too upset about things. But anyway, let's jump onto the Lex Friedman podcast. Obviously Lex is, it's so interesting to listen to him now, like even as a rogan guest, because like his evolution

of podcasting and becoming well known is is all happened fairly recently and he's taken to it well. I mean the the the kind of celebrity that he's become is a good version of one like he's still very ethical and well thought out and you know has this very different life now that he's well known and he's doing really good things about it. I mean, it's interesting having him on Rogan because there was one point where he said he was talking about a specific guest and he was like, man, I really wish that he was on Rogan right now. So I could listen to it instead of having the interview. Right. That's funny. No, I thought that was, I thought that was a lot. He's so authentic. It's like refreshing. You know what I mean? It's almost, I don't want to say too much. It's like just enough,

but it's like so 100% just I am like, and then know appreciate his like character like ethics for sure. Yeah, definitely But even when he was saying that to Joe, I thought that's that is interesting because sometimes I hear certain guests on Rogan and I'm like, oh man, I wish I was hearing this on Lex's show just because he has such a different style and He often gets the more of the details specifically and sometimes you want that out of a certain guest so it's like cool that you have like these different you know I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it it's like if Joe Rogan got a PhD that's that's what I should be called he's like he's like he's like can I read you a poem and Joe like, did you write this one too? I love you.

He's like, no, it was just funny. It's like funny, but I mean, it's good. I like, he was talking about playing Hendrix on there to the out of middle balls he played, but. Yeah, right. It was just like, the way he was like, I'm not, he was like, you got into the comments, didn't you? That's so funny, how much that probably, I mean, I've never really read comments. From time to time,

I'll like, it's usually, it's interesting to like, if you watch something on Instagram, like, normally the first thing that comes to your mind is the first fucking comment. So it's just interesting to, I normally don't thumb through it, but I do find it interesting that's like the normal like, consciousness or like thought process tends to like be very centralized like what what would you think? And it's like bam ran for you. It's just interesting though. Oh Human beings think about different shit. Yeah, for sure. Have you watched have you watched it? It goes like great challenges of late. Oh, yes, noob dogs Instagram Guys don't try and walk over crates way too difficult everyone's falling off those things you can't snoops yeah what I

love about Snoop is like this is like some guys back yard and snoops like yeah I'll put it on my Instagram with 69 million people can watch this like that's how good that is no I'm sure Snoop has somebody doing his shit for him and he's like just keep the funny shit rolling so it keeps the channel moving oh yeah no doubt what people probably just send it to him and he reposts it yeah those are pretty hilarious though fucking hilarious Instagram still relevant man it's that you know it's and he reposted. Those are pretty hilarious though. Fucking hilarious. Instagram's still relevant man. It's like, you know, all the beef with Twitter and how frustrating that is.

And I don't even mess with Twitter at all. But yeah, Instagram's still doing that thing. Still works for me. I mean, it's just funny. Just a lot of funny shit on I just told my girl is like, my cousin hasn't reached out to me like via text happy birthday, but he posted like 10 pictures on Facebook, which I appreciate him putting it together. It's just an interesting way to communicate like it is what it is. Like I love it. It is just a weird weird way wait what do you mean I'm not following this like he sent you like

birthday wishes on Facebook yeah yeah just like a birthday like collage like happy birthday cuz which I do appreciate but like I it's just interesting how much like a human voice or like a call means like and I it's kind of like not more than the same for the takes time to put that shit together So I appreciate I know you mean no yet. I do Just the human voice is like it goes a long way like I'd rather get a phone call than a birthday card Right or like just just don't even give me the goddamn gift card just like call me You remember when you were like 10 years old and you were like I don't even want my aunt to visit just send me money. It's like oh yeah like when you open cards like you don't even care what's in there if cash doesn't fall

out you're like I hate that member of my family. Take it easy but I only had a few minutes like I appreciate those ladies. No I didn't want any cards you did that money and if they got me a like a gift certificate No, you know you could only use it at one place I got real upset If there was money in the car you take the time to read the car, but no money fuck the car. Yeah, I'm not reading nothing Okay, I was like 10 I was calculating how much the card costs and I was like you could have just sent me that I didn't have that same thought process on multiple games. I'm like I appreciate the thought but next time just Send money down the thoughts. Yeah, that age. I wanted two things toys and candy and I needed money together

There was some obstacles in the way. Yeah. He-man was my toy. Right. I needed a needle. I was more of an injured turtle game myself. But what did you think about Lex talking about writing for 12?

Like, he's going to get into writing 12 hours a day or something? I like hearing shit. He likes to do some extreme shit. Well, that's a day or something. I like hearing shit. Well that's what I'm saying. I like hearing him say it because I feel like he's the type of person and I think we kind of come clut from that same cloth. It's like if you're gonna say it, then you better fucking do that shit. That's what I was thinking to myself.

I mean, I feel like hearing the few conversations that he's had, it makes you a little bit Subconsciously closer to these people because you're like, alright now I see how you see things and I've heard you express yourself in certain ways So when I do hear him say that like the thing that goes through my mind is like, alright You better fucking do that shit and let's see what that comes from that like I'm excited to see it because you will do it Yeah, let's see it. He's obviously a very disciplined guy. That's what I'm saying. To say you're going to read 12 to 14 hours a day and write. I mean, I can verbally say to you the hardest thing for me to do is, I mean, it's that's that same book that Joe always promotes to the the the war of art. It's not necessarily the art of war. It's the war of art just sitting down and writing

about it. I'm like, express that multiple multiple times just like putting yourself in front of the blank page is probably one of the roughest things for people that want to be moving around. You know what I mean? Yeah. When I used to try and write my comedy sets, I mean you take like four hours of doing that. Three hours of it was just staring at the computer getting upset. Right. He was hard. I've taken 12 pages and I've literally just pressed delete multiple times. Because you're so judgy of yourself, I don't know. It's very difficult to do.

But he's a disciplined guy, I think he's gonna do it. But along those same lines, I also think that he, you know, is learning to be careful about what he commits to because he was even talking about how he doesn't text Gorgins back sometimes, because he knows Gorgins is gonna make him run a marathon. I think, no, that's the exact, I think that kind of just falls right in mind with what I was just saying. That's exactly right.

Because if he did text him and Goggins did get back to him, he'd like fuck, now I gotta do this run. That's how we would be. That's how we would be too. It would be like, all right, I put myself out there. That's when he was like, I don't even check. I don't even open the emails when I get to when I get here or whatever. Because it's like, I don't want to read that shit just right away. But I don't know what to do. I don't even check, I don't even open the emails when I get to, when I get here or whatever,

because it's like, I don't wanna read that shit just right away. But I appreciate the Goggins mentality. As I've always preached to it, it's, we took the day off today, but I just appreciate the discipline that he has, obviously. Yeah, he's an absolute animal, it's terrifying.

He can draw inspiration from it, but it's almost like, oh my god, I can't do that. Slow down. No, he's almost too good. It's not, though, that's the thing. It's like set the bar fucking high. And if you fall short, you know, the bar has been high the whole fucking time.

So if you miss one minute, then at least you still live in better than 99% of the people other than fucking gardens. Damn, son. Do you just drink a red ball before this podcast? You got wings? I'm in Jamaica. I've had a couple runs, but there we go. That explains it. Rum and red ball talk. There we go. If you do you think you're gonna watch that QAnon documentary, they keep jammering on about. I mean, Joe's going to talk about this for the next like few months for sure. At least until he gets through it, it sounds interest thing, but what is this Trump thing? Like he mentions the number 17. I've never heard that.

What is this Trump thing? Like he mentions the number 17. I've never heard that. Oh, it's some it's some like subliminal message that keeps popping up through Q and on. It's like all in codes. So that number has some value. There's always a few connections, but it's like, where do you draw the connections? I don't know. I liked how, uh, I think they were talking about AI quite a bit obviously they talked about it in both but it was like That seems like a slippery slope the more more we talk about it and you you've been pretty Adam in about that oculus to yeah, oh love it. Yeah, I mean, I'm a big proponent of that I think that I mean right now where it's at it's fun, but it's not amazing

I think that, I mean, right now where it's at, it's fun, but it's not amazing. But I think it's going to get pretty wild fast. And obviously Lex talks a lot about AI because he studies it and he doesn't really have it like a negative association with it. What was he saying on the party? He's like mostly focusing on the human interaction with AI, right? It's like something that's not really that studied. Wasn't he talking about the robots, but not being connected to, uh, I can't remember the name of that company. That's what's the name of the big, yeah. Oh, uh, Boston Dynamics.

Boston Dynamics. Yeah, they do all the backflips and fucking crazy park boring. That shit. That shit's coming quick. That's the thing too. It's like with technology. I was listening to some. It's like, we're just like not keep Joe made mention to it. It's like humans. This can't keep up with the amount of technology that our brains are producing. Dude, I'm going to tell you this right now. I don't know how good those robots need to be, but like if they rolled them out and were like, right, they're now the cops. I would be down.

Number one, well listen, number one, I don't think you need to arm them, right? Because cops have guns to protect themselves. I mean, they do also have them to like protect other people, but if you look at other countries that where the cops don't have guns, like England, the cops don't have guns, and there's pros and cons to all of it, like, look, I'm an American now, okay? I'm still English, but I have citizenship here.

I don't mind that cops have guns here. I'm not like anti-gun by any stretch of the imagination. But a lot of times, they should have have them because if they're pulling people over, you know, it's dangerous for them and people shoot at them. But if it's a robot, it can just get shot at and continue to pursue. It can give you like Google style answers back. So they'd actually be useful enough to go up to and be like,

hey, can I get directions? You know, I mean, look, cops aren't always that friendly. That's, that's how I see him like there. And not, you know, it says protect and serve. They're not, they're not super polite a lot of times. They're kind of grumpy and they're not the first people I go up to to like, you know called peace officers, not police officers? Well, peace officer kind of sounds a bit dopey. I mean, look, I want them to protect me for sure, but, you know. No, but I mean, it sounds, but I mean, I wonder if that would even, I think those are all rational thoughts.

I mean, that makes sense. It's just that as impartial, they would be to like give you the best directions. They would also be like, oh, you just jaywalked, we're cut and your fucking finger off. I would think to it. It would have to be a weird decision. Well, I mean, look, they would, they would follow the law, but maybe they could also assess certain situations. Like if they pull you over and you've been arrested 14 times

in the last month, then obviously you're a problem. So they're like, here's the thing. If you have no criminal record, you know, there will be a whole algorithm for it. Like they'd figure it out. That would be it. I'm just saying if we're letting cars drive themselves, maybe we could have robot police.

Robocop was a dope movie. I mean, I feel like that is good in theory. I just feel like that can go slippery real quick, especially if who's in charge of those fucking robots is the question. Yeah, but they're not like, I don't know, maybe it would sort out the racist thing because they wouldn't be at a day. They wouldn't take that into account. They'd be like, we're just arresting you because you broke the law. I'm not saying constant racist. I'm just saying that people

think that they are and probably some are for sure. There's there's gonna I mean there's gonna be some profiling. So what I'm hearing is you're not down for my robot police officer idea. I just, I'm not not down. I think you made some valid points. It just be, it's probably where we're heading to it. Seems like, especially like you said, if I feel like you can cut down a lot of crime, but I feel like crime produces so much big business in a lot of ways too.

Like, people weren't committing crimes or we didn't make certain things crimes. I don't want you to steal. I don't want you to steal. I don't want you to murder. But like other like like non like hurting people crimes that we've churned into these things that have become so financially like profitable based on the court system. There's lawyers getting paid. There's a ton of people getting paid. Well, yeah, there's a lot. Look, man, there's always going to be like the fuckery of politics and everything. There's no way around.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Who's going to be in charge of those robots? Because I think there's going to be some fuckery involved with the robots, as my point. Yeah, but I'm saying they're probably not going to program them to be like evil. Like, there's going to be oversight. It's like training. It's like, trying to keep an eye on. Charter cueing.

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to this base and they're shooting into the crap dude just from basically knowing nothing about this kind of thing really than other than what we see on the news and then hearing what this poor guy had to go through like I have a friend that has five kids and he can barely get them all up and going in the morning. Like, it's a lot of work. Imagine dragging them back and forth between bases and like trying to get them to just, it was just, and then, and then to just be feel like you completely got sold out on by your whole fucking squad. Probably, you know what I mean? Like, obviously, he had some motivations in order to take care of his family,

but either way it's like, dude, I did you a solid like this is how I don't know. I mean those images that I saw, those fucking huge ass planes with all those people on it. So it's like, look, I mean, that's a rough, rough pill to swallow watching other people deal with that kind of stuff right now, especially it's like From a human standpoint. It's just it's hard to watch those images because you're like man I don't know. Yeah, I mean my heart goes out soon You know that like these are people with families trying to stay alive and live a life and and they're just thrown into complete chaos And probably a lot of them don't have much anyway. You know what it take fucking like 48 hours

for the Taliban to take back over. See that's what I don't understand. I'm like, how the hell do they manage to do that? We really made no impact, like zero. There's zero impact that's been made. If you're willing to say the Taliban just took over within 48 hours, right? We've barely started opening, you know, rest of the game and they are managing to take over an entire country. Granted, I'm getting bits and pieces, but I just saw

this thing that said that Biden wasn't going to pull out until August 31st. Like, I don't know if that's his like compensation or like reparation we're trying to get everybody out in the next five days like is that I could be fucking this up because I've only seen it on the news and cotton snippets but that's what I read and that's what I saw so it's just like it's it's a weird I mean either do a job or don't like it's weird to be like put it on him because you come into those situations not like as a president now you deal with the shit that happened before and it seems to be

the culmination of this constant. Oh yeah no doubt. I'm sure the wheels for this were turning before he got in and now he has to figure it out too. And there's probably no good answer. There's no good answer. All I think about is I hope someone figures out a good way to help as many people as possible. Like I just feel awful like knowing that after all that time, you know, of like trying to separate them from the rule of, you know, the Taliban. Now it's like, all right, you're all on your own. It just seems brutal

Yeah, I feel like we can do better than that America come on. I hope we got that I hope we need to start fucking spitballing some solutions here though. That's for sure Yeah, I was kind of hoping Lex had some I was like Lex probably has a smart thing to say no Not that he didn't but it like maybe no one knows what the fuck did. It's weird to think about the North Korea situation, and you think about that situation, but then you bring it right back to where we're at,

and we have to home the situation here. It's like, what battle do we pick to fight? I don't know. No one, I mean, there's people starving in our country, but I mean, it's like starving in our country, but I mean, it's like we try and play these like prestigious, like, I don't know, we've got it all figured out shit, but we've got enough problems going on here. And it's like, I don't want to say that because we do have the resources and we do have the

opportunity to provide a lot for other places. But I think it's something like you do, you do you can right what's in your reach like I can't change anything in Afghanistan and I can't do much about the homeless, but I can Take the people in my life that I care about and and help them in whatever ways I can and be a good support and and hopefully even like a moral example in some way. I mean, you know, it doesn't sound like you're doing a lot there, but you probably are. Like that's probably a good start for everybody to kind of do that, that sort of thing. I agree.

Who knows, man, we're not going to figure it out. There's no way. But keep talking about it. Let's keep trying. Keep trying. Let's jump over to Neil Blomkamp, legendary director, District 9, Elysium, Chappy. Shoot, what other moves he made? I forgot. But...

District 9 was a... I think I brushed it off initially and I watch it a second third time. I was like this movie Couldn't could be not too far off in the future. Dude. It's really good though, isn't it? Like it's a really interesting alien movie Right I never heard Joe talk with such passion about Alien movies. Oh, he's a big fan. He often brings up aliens. He loves the alien, but yeah, he's a big movie fan.

I mean, those movies are great though. They are so different. It was bourzy as hell that he put his friend in. The guy in District nine nine that guy was excellent though I forgot that he wasn't famous because since that movie's been a lot of things So I was like oh he wasn't famous when he did that that's I didn't realize that It's funny how Hollywood works did you hear him talk another segue but when you talked about shearing his ear off? Oh, yeah, yeah

He talked about shearing his ear off. Oh yeah, yeah. That's brutal. I was just like, oh my God, bro, can you imagine like hitting a bump in like a hummer and just sliding your ear like completely off on some fucking 50 caliber gun? Yeah, well, they made that vehicle from Halo, right? Because he was gonna make that movie. Yeah, he made the, the warthog, I think it's called the way he described that kind of pain

I've had that kind of pain one other time, but I like, but it's almost like you probably felt that two of you like broken a bone or something It's like that overwhelming, but like I guess this is just how I deal with it kind of pain otherwise like I severed my eyelid my eyelid was like hanging down over my eyeball Yeah, and then I was like And I just remember waking up in the back of the like ambulance a wig on my toes and a wig on my my fingers And I was like oh, yeah, all right. Well, you know I cut my I cut my thumb off last year, right? Remember that? Shooting it with a bow or something, right? Yeah, it was a crossbow accident.

Guys, let me tell you a little safety tip about crossbows. It may seem very obvious, pretty much everyone that's ever seen one, but for some reason, I did not realize. When you're firing a crossbow, don't stick your thumb up in the air because there's a string. It's under a lot of tension that will fly forward and literally slice your entire thumb off and the shock is amazing. He just... I was such an scared of your thumb hanging, going, did that really just happen?

Wow. That was such an interesting time for that to happen too. Like, mid-Covid, just out in the wilderness, shooting thumbs off. Yeah. Yeah. I went, I went dove hunting the next day. Brutal.

Life was fun. Yeah, brutal. I couldn't believe it. We get to the hospital and they're like, you're kind of in a good mood for having your Thumb cut off. I was like well, it's gone now, so They were able to fix it though. It looks it looks pretty much like a normal thumbnail feels weird But yeah when he described it slicing of the year

That definitely came back to me. I was like wow that is a shocking Like feeling there's sir. There's certain painful moments in your life where you're like, ooh, I will not forget this moment. Only a handful. I probably only have a handful. I remember I fell through the roof trying to, like, get a cable cord, and I fell right through the drywall and snap my ankle right before football camp. That was a pain I would not like to instill on anybody else, but

what would you say the worst pain you've ever had in your life? One comes to mind, not even a broken bomb. Oh, I got a burn. I think burns seems to be, yeah, it was like a boiling part of water, like spilled all over my hand. And was agonizing because it just the way it throbs and it doesn't go numb like when I cut my thumb off it actually kind of went numb like right away it just it just stays hot if it's burning yeah but the burning one was horrific that was that was very the worst I was gonna say either a ear infection or I had a staff infection in my thumb and my thumb got to be almost two sizes, the same size as my left thumb. Before I was like, I should probably go to, like I was going crazy.

Like I was like putting it under hot water, putting it under cold water, trying to sleep with it in like a cold water thing. I'm like, I'm going to overcome, I'm going to overcome. And then I was like, it's two times a size. And I went to the doctor and he's like, yeah, I've never seen anything like this. And you like poke the hole in it and all this black shit just came out of my thumb. Wait, what happened? So what happened? That was a staff infection. Yeah, it was a staff infection. I've never experienced any kind of like unruly pain other than like I had it, like I said,

I had a swimmers year one time. Like I went too deep in my my ear like I felt like there was like an ice pick in my ear but the staff infection was a close second. Yeah, ear eggs can be really, ear eggs and two takes can be real bad. Dude, it's like so overwhelming to pain sometimes. Man, I wish I'd saw you from that sounds gross. Oh, oh, I was gnarly. I wanted to get it on picture and he like, he had like a napkin over it and I was gnarly. I wanted to get it on picture and he like he had like a He had like a napkin over it and I was like, let me see. He's like you don't want to see it I looked over and it was just like

But I'll tell you what once he pressed the thing the amount of pressure that came out of like my whole body. I was just like It was like the amount of like release was like so Like, it was like the amount of like release was like so Amazingly intense and it was crazy from such a small little hole in my fucking like cuticle of my thumb Caused all that pain and like turmoil in my body and then he just like poked a hole in it and it was gnarly But it was like there was one that was like a orgasmic moment where I was just like, oh my god I can live again. It's like it's like finally Releasing fine after holding it in throughout an entire day Similarly similar but like life and death, but yeah, I got you

What did they give you did they give you just antibiotics for that and a clear up? No, I don't think he numbed it up. He put like a shot in it and then he just like made this small little incision. I just remember it just came gushing out like a fucking lava train. It was not really. It was not. Was being a doctor would be a great job. It does not sound like it would be all that fun. Imagine just messing with all the gross stuff all day. The gross stuff would be terrible, like

saving fucking people's lives and other people's lives. And yeah, I just sewed them up and made them better. So yeah, it's a good point. It's a good point. What do you think of some of the philosophy shit that Neil was talking about when he got into like he kind of feels like all This is just a hologram That like one day he just realizes was a dream He kind of believes in fate like everything's already happened He was quoting Nietzsche and like a lot of the stuff that I listen to see I mean We've had this conversation about like whether or not it's all fake or whether or not, but

it's just interesting to think it seems like so vain and so human to like be separate because if you really look at it, it's like we don't, we don't, we grow from the world where like not like we're from the world. We're not like just put here, you know, I mean, it's that's like a human thought that you like put here. You just grew out of the world like the fucking palm tree In some other way, you know what I mean, but yeah, I like distinct We have this distinct vanity that like we are doing something that somebody else isn't doing and like it's like that You go is just the only thing that controls the mind majority of the time, you know I mean so you got a wonder those like the idea that it's all predestined, right? That there is fate. It was all gonna go this way anyway. It so so then in a sense

It's like it's more like a ride, right? You get to Disneyland and you just get on the ride and it's super entertaining And some of it's scary and some of it's fun and some of it's weird and some of it's kind of painful And then you get done and then it's like, here's what you probably learnt. And you're like, wait a minute. Here's your picture of the ride. Here's your picture. Here's your $5 picture of the ride. I think that's a good way to look at it to be honest.

That's the way Joe always describes how Anthony Wardane described life. He's like described life is like Life is a fucking roller coaster ride Yeah, I mean well, that's just a cool thing to say if you're no I mean it is, but it is the that's the thing you don't necessarily have to like always put up walls and like find the reasons Why you know, but then it what is the point of that? It's it's just like it's then what is pain and like discomfort and terrible tragedy if it's like okay we try and have meaning to it be like oh yeah you can learn something from this and then from that you'll be stronger and you can

help others that I like but if it's like it was all gonna happen to you anyway, then you're like, well, okay, could it just happen less? Because it sucked. I guess, I mean, I don't know if that was that easy, then it'd be easy, right? I don't know. I always get confused when you, you know, then Nietzsche is saying it, and like, people so much smarter than we will ever be, say that. And I'm like, I got sense of it. I've kind of shifted my thought process for as far as like the like woo, woo,

as far as like everything happens for a reason. I kind of think more of like everything happens for a reason more of like in a biological setting. Like it's just like one big petri dish and everything is kind of balancing itself out to some regard. And we're definitely putting our fucking impact on that as humans and I mean that said I mean the world has responded like resiliently for fucking as many years as we've been here so I don't know what the right answer is on anything it just but at the

end of the day it seems like it's... I don't know. I don't know what the right answer is. But fate, or it feels better to believe that everything happens for a reason. I can tell you that. Because if everything happens for coincidence, it's just like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's completely random. And then, but you know, take the story and me shoot my thumb off. I'm like, what was... Why? Why now? I just look... What am I doing here? I can tell you that I learned not to keep my fucking thumb up if I'm shooting, what was why? Why now? What am I doing here?

I can tell you that I learned not to keep my fucking thumb up if I'm shooting a ball. Right? If you want to take some silver lining from that top, I guarantee I'd be a lot safer with a crossbow. I haven't tried shooting one again, but I probably will not do that in the future. Anybody listening, you might have saved a couple of thumbs.

You know, you don't fuck him now. I'd like to think so. If you've had it across both of the injury story, please write it in and tell us all about it. I'd be interested to read it, and also then I would feel less like an idiot every time I think about that, because it does make me feel like a moron for doing that.

That Ted Chan story he was talking about, it's like a friend of his that writes, I think it was the Ted Chan story with a guy's brain, he got doubled his intelligence. Remember, it's talking about that story, there was like a drug that he took. I was that that correspond with him, like talking about like a vampire being a scientist at the same time. I yeah, I think it was the same guy that wrote that I couldn't follow that story sound pretty dope though

But like basically the guy had an injury Car record something and then A great screenplays. I watch all those movies. Yeah, he's doing the vampire one. He's gonna make that. Yeah. So that one sounds amazing. It's a real bummer. He's not making the alien one though. Right. Who knows? Time. Maybe he'll be here in Joe's day that he wants to make it. Who knows? Maybe the Spiderman. You never know. But the vampire one sounds dope. I'd be down to watch that. But then the brains, like the one where the guy got super

Intelli, what do you think you would do if you got super into it? Like so much more intelligent than all other humans. What would your, what's your play? What's your first play? Well, the automatic human vain clay would be, all right, how can I use this to a financial game? Hopefully you would think, secondly, and hopefully not secondly, hopefully firstly, from a humanitarian spot, you'd be like, how can I solve problems with all this knowledge? Because now I'm a little bit more enlightened. Yeah. Well, you probably realize you need a lot of money and intelligence to solve both. Hopefully, I wonder how the monetary system like is that? Like we've set it up and

I'm not trying to say I'm a socialist. I appreciate capitalism, and being successful, obviously being raised in America that's just kind of bread in our bones. But it's like, was that how we were supposed to be? Because you don't see, like, one lion walking around the jungle. I mean, there's always one dominant lion, but he's not fucking where all these like material things came from and all this necessity for like goods It's just like so again human and vain, but it's just a weird Land and like completely focused on all the time Yeah, but we do maybe if you're two time maybe if you're two time smarter none of that shit would even matter because you'd be so far past

Even acknowledging that shit, isn't I thought? Yeah, probably. I mean, who knows? We never met anybody that did that. You'd have to look at really smart people that exist now and see what they're up to. Because they're really smart. I mean, really smart people are usually the future thinkers and don't necessarily aren't really worried about what other people are thinking about and they can't help but hopefully separate the ego.

A lot of successful people have ego It just comes with the territory, but the guy with the highest IQ ever recorded or alive today I think it's over 200. I think he's like a security god Really I'm pretty sure I googled that once and that's what he does So yeah, he obviously doesn't care too much to make tons of money. Pruduce reads a load of books. I don't know, be interesting. But he was a, I really like that guy.

The Neil was a fascinating dude. I mean, his obsession with UFO stuff, I liked that. When if you're a filmmaker, I want you to be really into UFOs and aliens because those movies are often Just fantastic. I love I really like the I love that too I like the passion that he talks about his craft soon I mean like the way he talked about like developing characters and doing the casting and doing the writing the whole process that goes through the movie making like Deal yeah, you have to like everything when you're a director, right because you got to do so much He's telling that story about cruising around with the camera on his hand

I you can like pick it's like it. He's writing a story just when he's talking to it Mm-hmm picture what he's you know, I mean yeah, that would be it would be wild to see how a movie gets made from start to finish. I think that would be really interesting. But I think that I'm sure there's documentaries based on that. There's gotta be. Yeah, no doubt. I'll find some time on watch one. What's definitely check out that Q&A?

No, I think that's gonna be at least worth laughing at. I know. Well, we might as well because we know Joe's gonna talk about it for the next month. So we might as well have our own opinions on it. Otherwise, we just reiterating something from a show we have not watched. It's probably not useful.

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