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Episode Date: September 29, 2021

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You're listening to the Joe Rogan experience review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your hosts, Adam Thorn. My heat every worse podcast with the best one. Two, one, go. Enjoy the show. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the JRE review. It was a topical week for sure.

Stop it, cool. Like that, dude, a lot going on. A lot going on. We got wrongful imprisonment. We've got Q and on. We've got the state of all political shit. That's way outside our area of expertise. Yeah, but I think that we're starting to get a good handle on how things are starting to work, but I hear what you're saying.

It's above our pay grade, but I'm not too cool to comment on it. Yeah, yeah, when you're not getting paid. I'm not too poor though, comment on it. Yeah, yeah, when you're not getting paid. It's uh, well, it's easier to say. All right, let's jump on Amanda Knox. Dude, how painful is it to hear that someone would go to jail like wrongful in prison? Period. Uh, I didn't know really any, I think I heard something about her all deal before this

It's it's crazy the impact that that had on her that has like continuing to have on her life too like I felt for when she was saying how Even though she's been cleared of all the crimes She's still the girl that's associated with those crimes. But it's yeah it's gonna it's gonna last forever. Hopefully and right. Hopefully and not. I mean hopefully she grows out of it and like she's like I mean I think Joe is bringing light to it like he was trying to trying to find like a silver lining to the situation because she was talking about it. You can tell that

she made her tough, obviously, but she also had some reserve feelings about it that she kind of tapped into a few times throughout the interview, but it seemed like Joe was like, did you think this situation only made you a better person? It's like hindsight's 2020 always, right? But it's it's sucks to ever have that situation. But to be able to look back on the scenario, grand it wrongfully accused as the fucking kicker. But to be able to look back on a situation and say, I made it, I guess only going to make her that much stronger. Obviously, and I know it's easy for me to say, but it's one of those things. No, I agree. And I feel like this is why I hope that her podcast really takes off because those conversations sound very interesting. And it's like, look, if she can't shake that persona,

which obviously she wants, but maybe she can't because that's what people will know her as. Why not use that as a platform to get really good conversations out. Like you said, he's like, he said, y'all mean pack. I think that's how you set her name. Has number one, like turmoil stories and she's like, you're a tight number two. But I mean, how good of a conversation with Abby to hear the two of them talk and be like, Oh, dude, that would be powerful, right? Wouldn't it? Yeah. And even throw a showing gunno in there too, or not? Yeah. Well, what did you think about like, so I didn't know anything about the Italian justice system. Like, you assume Europe would be, you know, regular, level. Well, I never thought of the paparazzi.

They cleared that up. That's an Italian word. They were trying to make a show of everything. That's what the news has become in general, but just to touch on it in that scenario. Everything's so sensationalized and so like, click baity, headline's like that's what sells I guess that's so sick me to say and it's like Are we contributing to that or is that just do you think they got like we use that word in the rest of You know the world or like Europe and because we use it England. And popper Ratsy, what word? Yeah, I mean that's like the popper Ratsy, that's why the word for them.

It's a Italian word. But, but I never thought about the fact like, is it because they were the first ones to like really sensationalize it? Or is it just like a cool sounding word that we were like, yeah, we'll take that. I'm in, I'm gonna lean to it. I don't know anything about that name other than this I'm gonna lean towards you. So I'm like maybe that's how they do it. That's what she was alluding to like strongly So that's that was the vibe that I got Yeah, I mean in hindsight to you think about how they portrayed the COVID situation like they had everybody out

Like I was thinking about the Italians now that I'm thinking about it, they had everybody singing outside of their windows, it was like a musical. Oh, that's a good point, Jared. COVID, they were a big problem. Right, yeah. Was there a musical fucking live musical going? Yeah, which was actually pretty good. No, no, I'm not hating. That's a bright side, but it's like to sensationalize some 30s shit. It's like they just wanted her to be guilty. It's like The whole win lose that process and the justice system is just a fucking Badly set up Design system like yeah, you know what I mean like to the idea that you're gonna benefit off like the like the prosecution I don't know what the better system is there has to be another alternative this can't be the only alternative

but the idea that you benefit from There's gonna be collusion and there's gonna be reasons to like What I mean what an interesting job to be a prosecuting attorney like Whether or not your job is to prove somebody's guilty whether or not they are not as just a fucking dust in the wind you know what I mean? Yeah maybe maybe he would make a problematic system if like even the prosecuting attorneys at some point like we're given like let's say throughout a trial they were given like these periods where they were just able to step in and be like

You know what this person didn't do it and like somehow it wouldn't ruin their entire reputation and Credibility it doesn't work like I mean, it's like Winno lose there should a winno there should be a fucking pull valve where you're like, oh, all right This doesn't make sense. We've had a conversation. We're looking out for the human in the situation. We're gonna go ahead and dismiss this one. Hmm. She talked about how the, those Italian scientists that didn't quite predict

that earthquake, what a way to go to jail. What a fucking, what? And you, you didn't. How good a way of predicting Earth. You didn't how good are we of predicting earth you didn't play god Dude we don't even know what the weather is gonna be tomorrow, right? And we know when the earth's gonna shake and like you what that is some that to me sounds That is that mean that sounds like the paparazzi on steroids like that's fucking I mean, that sounds like the paparazzi on steroids. Like, that's fucking absurd.

Well, don't get me wrong. If they had a machine in front of them, there was like, there's a hundred percent chance that an earthquake is going to wipe out their city. And they didn't tell anyone. That's not a good place to be in. But I do, we do not have that technology. Right?

And why would they not? But what would be to their benefit to be like, I don't, it looks dangerous. We're not going to tell them. It's like, uh, if they saw a red flag, I imagine they probably alert. As far as I've ever heard, you have like a minute or 30 seconds. If that's like, it's coming. Well, they do, they do know, they know when those like, tectonic plates are going to like shake. They have some, some idea, I think. Like, if it's coming. Well, they do, they do know, they know when those like tectonic plates are going to like shake. They have some, some idea, I think, like if it's like, do they, where are you getting this? It's science. It's science. A lot of people listen to it.

It's all you show. It's science. It's Instagram science. No, I do know that obviously places like San Francisco and places that are earthquake prone. I'm not saying they can predict it, but there are like four site. Yeah, I mean, I think they know areas that are like right for that to happen, but I think they're rattling around all the time. Just like that guy. So the guy had talked about they keep saying that Florida is going to pop off within like, I feel like they've been saying it's going to pop off forever. Like since I was a kid there, saying that Florida was going to get the touch, but it's somehow hanging on. But you really think that Florida? Didn't they say that?

No, I think it's California, bro. There's no plates over there. No, I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about the earthquake situation. I'm just talking about, didn't they say that was going to become an island? Like that guy was talking about it on the last one Florida was correct, you know how they keep saying that Florida's just gonna pop up. I mean maybe if the What I get just like if the ice melts it's gonna snap on and it sinks it. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna snap off No, I think it only snap no things only move apart if there's like plates

Man, I feel like stuff doesn't snap off. It's a boot. It looks like it's kind of snap right off. Yeah, but it's it doesn't make it snapable Fair enough Yeah, maybe we hear the last people that you'd be talking about Plates, but you know thank God we're not in charge of it. We would immediately go to jail for this. Well, that's what they say. That's crazy. What's your, what's your mind space at if you're wrongfully accused? What's your play? Do you just suck it up or do you like feel revenge the whole time? Well, ideally you don't want to feel revenge, right? I mean, you can't have an aware energy. Well, but I mean, think about all the people through time that have had really shitty things happen to them. It could the answer possibly be get more angry and want to hate every, like that's not

going to help anything. And of course, it's going to pop into your mind. You're going to be like, what the fuck is this that I'm going through? Especially. But I think on a personal level, you wanna find your cheat. You wanna, yeah, kinda, I mean, not to be too much of a hippie, but you wanna find your peace with it.

And you wanna find maybe, maybe even like a growth vector, like somewhere where you could learn from this event. But it's a little hard to do if they're like, right, you go to jail for 10 years. You know, but it doesn't sound like a man that came out of this with a lot of hate. Like, maybe there's some underlying frustrations, I'm sure there is. But she doesn't sound like a really better person, which is credit to her. But she doesn't sound like a really bitter person which is credit to her

I'm always I'm always curious with like I'm kind of interested in those like jail shows and like just like the camaraderie slash mental breakdown that has to happen and like setting like that Hmm, especially if you have a watch that show 60 days and I did actually I watched it those Those guys were it's an interesting show it was I know it's guys were trying to do the one guy was trying to do it to be like not famous But you could tell that you he was living out to the cameras But it was just an interesting thing I if that situation were to arise I probably just keep my head down and if shit popped off I'd fucking Probably spring on a spring real quick and then just go back and keep my head down and

just lead by example. It seems like in that situation that's kind of the only option because I don't know I guess you just have to be yourself but fuck especially if you're in there knowing that you didn't commit the crime you're just like trying to survive. Just trying to put your head in that head space it's one thing if you commit the crime you're like right now I got to survive but to not do it even committed the crime then to be placed in that situation on top of it obviously your mind still goes to survival but down I think what like kind of shocked me I, in a sense, was that she explained that she didn't even really

fully realize she was under arrest until she was. You know what I mean? She thought she was just... It wasn't like she had a year-long trial or it was like she was like... She was trying to help. You're gonna realize I didn't do this. I didn't do this. I didn't do this. Someone will figure this out.

And then all of a sudden through a bunch of communication problems, she's now in jail. Right. Like that would be very strange. Chalkpildeswallow. Oh, Jesus. Yeah.

And not, I think about just the language barrier too like not knowing like it'd be one thing If you heard the cops talking about this whatever outside, but to not even know what the hell they're talking about and not know what's going on Ah, that would be it. Yeah, you're gonna feel lost. That's incredibly scary. That's real rough to not even really communicate and have the same situation happen. Yeah. You have to, just, I don't know, man, like just imagine having the SIDA with that on your mind. It goes back to like, we've made reference to like, even when the whole riots and all that stuff is going down, we said that the vast majority of cops aren't bad,

but it only takes a few for a situation like that to happen. And then you look at a situation like that. And this is a couple of bad things that are bad at their job. And like, it's like the perfect storm that just came together. It sounded like there were some shitty cops. Yeah, they're just some lazy fucking idiots. Either that, it's like you either want to say you're lazy or you blatantly being derogatory and like, mishles in the case on purpose, which would almost make more sense Like because you would want to believe that you want that stupid. I mean, I don't know what the better of the two evils is But it's like damn

Are you that dumb or did you intentionally fuck this up that bad? And you just yeah, somebody's life is just hanging in the pendulum the whole time because of your mistakes like in your Idiot plays just bayonets. Yeah, I'd be curious to know How many people listening that have had like a someone they know wrapped up in this right because You know what she's bringing to Joe's attention is like this happens Okay, and Joe has the innocent projects guy on That like he knows about all this bullshit that goes down with the legal system You don't only hear a lot of press about it. I think the press generally is like yeah

Our legal system works great or it's the best version we have blah blah blah and You know, maybe it's the best version we have blah blah and you know maybe it's the best it's been but when you hear these stories it makes you think it's still things that are so long convoluted like energies involved that maybe don't come to the most genuine places it seems to be it's win-lose stuff right it's like people want to win they just want to win life's got to be full of winners so but it what expense I think it paid like that's the idea right hmm you know the cut yeah I don't know Jay Jay said it you know the cost of everything with the value of nothing. Jay Z reference.

You mean saving that all week? GD? I mean, it's just the John Liner man. It's the truth, but. Yeah, I feel like you'd just be so angry after that. Like after somebody took away an decade of your life and it was like your 20s, right? Like how fucking angry would you be from that?

Like you've been here, this is your third decade of existence. Right. And someone just goes, we're taking it all away. Before you even had a chance to figure out anything that's going on. That's a tough one. And you're like, but wait a second, aren't you the grownups that you should know how to right? Which point?

You know, figure out if I'm a criminal or not? Which, especially when she's that innocent? If you had to trade your 20s or your 30s, what would you trade? It's gotta be later. What have you had to pick one? Dude, it has to be later. Think about it. The trauma comes from your childhood or your younger years. I mean, if you've lived the dope past life

and then someone's like, all right, you're 50 and you're successful, but we're gonna take it away for 10 years. Like, you might be at a bounce back. Right. But if someone takes away something too young, you're not gonna to be you're not going to be at a do it. That's a good point because then you're like, then that's a great point because you just so angry. Well, then you're going to be so angry.

I'm in such formative years, like not that I figured it out and be in my late 30s now, like I can't sit here and say I figured life out, but I do have it. I do know what's important to me now. I have figured life out, but I do know it's important to me now. And I do have a gauge in a perspective that I couldn't say that I would have in my 20s. I would say that it took my 20s to get to my 30s. So yeah, I guess if I had to pick one, that would probably be the better time. Well it definitely took you 20s to get to your 30s. I thought it was my 40s before. Yeah, I thought it was my 40s.

I thought it was my 20s before. As far as I can tell, my 40s. Yeah, I thought it in my 20s. I was like and so weird Yeah, I feel bad for and I'm glad she's doing well and I really do hope a podcast Takes off because I'm sure she's gonna have a fascinating insight Just life in general imagine the story she's yeah, I'm gonna be the teller fucking grandkids Oh, it's gonna be way better than this podcast. I didn't know the whole story every day. I have a lot of questions, but I didn't know the story.

She kept alluding to like the story that they were like trying to sensationalize that she was like a slut kind of isn't that accurate? No, I think that was just part of the narrative to like get a rest. Yeah, it was like make it look like a shitty of a person Like if she doesn't have a criminal record. That's what I'm saying. What are you gonna go off the one leg they were standing? Yeah, what are you gonna go off? All right, let's jump over to Colin Hoback

Q city I know foods that's that way. Is that a vape pen you got there, bro? Yeah, it's a love that. Or are you vapins? Is this a vape sponsor? We have 90 to chill out. It's a 80% 90% here in Southern California.

Q and on, man. I mean, we haven't talked about that for a long time. But like, do you watch that you didn't watch today? I didn't catch it. I only hang out with cues. Fair enough. I only watch three of the episodes. It's, it fucking is really. What's it? It's an excellent documentary. In documentary style, right?

Is misfit. To say how truthful it is, I't know is but it seems like this guy is a research is misfit the correct Adjunct for the people involved Maybe I don't know I just think because that's you know I think there's like slippery slopes for anyone just like a nice soft word because I got nice soft word. What I'm just, is any time I ever heard about it back in the day, it just seems so crazy. Let me just go ahead and ask you this question. What's the first, I haven't watched a Q&A thing,

but what's the first image that pops into your head when you think about Q&A in January 6th, go. Oh, that's, that's all that comes into anybody's head at this fucking point. So we're talking about Viking caveman. Literally that guy with home that guy sums up that whole event like that's the only thing that anybody associates with that whole it is that's a good way of looking at it because to be honest if somebody just showed you a picture of that guy Generous with no contacts. We're talking like 2015 somebody just says who is this?

You would say this guy Walmart does not read Walmart Greeder on Halloween Halloween. Paid hell but Walmart for a Halloween event. Yeah, that's perfect. Oh, I didn't look at it. I mean, when he said misfit, I was like, hmm, and if that guy's the leader of the whole fucking operation running around with zip ties trying to hog tie Mike Pence or some shit, it's like we we're living it's like clearly not the leave. I think that guy lived in his mother face. I could do the best that felt like a WF like situation like in hindsight. That was like a the word sensational has been overused in this pot already, but like it felt like WWF fight that whole situation.

It was like, what are we doing here? Yeah. Yeah. But it was interesting. I mean, he's a bad representation of what they were trying to achieve. Well, I think they wanted a lot more. And he just kind of summed the whole thing up.

Well, yeah, I guess when you have like generals involved, they would probably think you would hope that they have a different agenda that has a little bit more like Unity or clarification to the idea, but it's like yeah If you have you ever heard of 4chan what he was talking about 4chan and 8chan There's a lot of chants going on there. That wasn't familiar with Yeah, so I look I knew nothing about it either and I still know nothing but what's three episodes of a documentary So I'm gonna try to

your scientists Well, you know, so So that it's like online type forums you bang and ice cubes around again dude I swear to God if you could just not bang ice cubes around for one reason for sure go ahead one We had for sure just not bang ice cubes around for one reason. For sure. Go ahead. One way. Go ahead. For sure. Yeah. This is called freedom of speech people and Garrett has it and I can't stop him. Okay.

So just so you know, if you get annoyed with it, that's why it happens. It's called freedom of speech. Even on the right. Yeah. I don't pressure it. I just ask it nicely. Any needs for it. For sure.

So yeah, for chance is like some sort of forum online where you can pretty much say whatever you want, right? It's like a game. It's like a gaming thing too. Doesn't it have some association with the gaming platform? Oh, there was yeah, they talked about this gaming chat. There was a big deal there, but they kind of banned it. So that's why they moved over to this thing called 8chan

And they interviewed the guy that made it this guy that has like a pretty severe disability and poor guy he actually seemed like a really kind of sweet guy to be honest for it For like how tough his life has been. He's done some great things, you know, just I don't know He seemed like a good dude to me But anyway, so it's these forums online you can kind of be And I don't know a lot about internet shit to be honest. I mean my podcasting capability is pretty basic So when it comes to dude, I don't need it. Yes, see mine is the best I don't even really know what red it is

when it comes to dude, I don't even, yes, C-minus the best. I don't even really know what Reddit is, which is sad, but I just don't, I don't look at it. I don't care. Don't need to. So it's this freedom profile, like you can get on there, you can talk about whatever you want. I'm sure people out there that know more about internet shit

are gonna have more to say, but. So it created the space and then someone jumps on with the Q-Biz. Now I thought I didn't know this before the documentary. I thought he was straight up just posting to like Twitter or something. You know, like in a place where it was more mainstream, I didn't realize that it came from these like super anonymous boards. And then he would like, he would do like a clever thing. He would throw down some ideas. And

then it would be like, dude, if you wanted to be like a puzzle, right? And everyone was following you. You could throw like four or five puzzles down and then one person makes sense of one of the puzzles and you take credit for it and then you build on top of it and that's kind of what was happening. Smart, I mean. So it was really smart in a sense, but it caused a lot of problems. Well, that's interesting to the crowd that are attracted. It's like, we've talked about tribal mentality

It's like you want to be it obviously We've known people in our life. I want to be attracted to certain things and they latch on to things that happened May not be fully thought through but if there seems to be some consistency and seems that like when you start seeing building blocks We have built on several of their blocks IE the QAnon situation and if you're going to take credit for each block, it's ironic or it's, I don't know, maybe a lot of things have fell into it. I mean, that time was so weird. It's like things have fell into place.

The foresight for that is pretty fucking mindful, to be honest. Yeah. And I'm, but really, I'm torn on it, to be honest. Yeah, but really I'm torn on it to be honest, because so many people followed it, I'm not gonna sit here and be like they would done, because you can't be. There were so many people that followed it. So what are you gonna do?

Your choices are, say all of those people are dumb, and they're not listening to them ever again, or say maybe they just lived in an area right or got reinforced by people they knew like it was a narrative that continued was kind of unfair and in hindsight was it Q and on and then BLM was that was that like the two things that were the two options at that time. It seems like it. Though it was the other. I want to say it was happening at the same time. I want to say that 95% of us are free thinkers and there was about 2.5% on either side,

but it was painted the picture that you were either this or you were this. Dude, maybe it was such a crazy times during COVID that people just wanted to latch onto something because they dude, I swear to God, I'm gonna throw your ice cubes out of the window. Maybe it was just such a crazy time though that people, I don't know, it's like a loss of identity with some things that were happening with COVID. What is happening? I so people are just joining these teams. I remember if you didn't because I remember if you want some connection.

If you didn't post that full black box on Instagram that day, then you were like, you were basically a racist. And then like three hours went by and it was like don't post the black box. That's a that's a whole different propaganda and not that you see what's actually going on. It was so I don't know if you remember that but I remember that clear as the day. It was like I'm not big on Instagram. Well I don't either way. I was like everybody was posting the black box for like a day and then like I want to say within hours It was like don't post that it's blocking the the feeds you can see what's actually going on

All these like little poise and so people would just posting black boxes. That was it That wouldn't that was it that was like solidarity that you were like part of the that you were part of the movement How how big in your feed that it gets? A lot of all black boxes. All I do is follow black people. So clearly it was all black boxes. Well, yeah, a lot of what? No, I'm just saying in general, it was an interesting,

I mean, it was a weird time in hindsight. I mean, well, but wouldn't that make sense though? If like, let's say your society, as we know it in a sense, was like being destabilized and you didn't know why it was just things were getting weird. And then you have an opportunity to like join a team, right? And your peers are talking about it. And you're like, you know what, this fucking time is crazy. I'm going to join. Yeah. I mean, if you want to be on the like, I don't blame. I'm I want to be I feel like I want to be

on the progressive fucking mindful, thoughtful side. But at the end of the day, it's like, you're just pushing that envelope so far. Like the seams are going to burst. It's like, we're justifying fucking stealing stuff at a store. Like we were justifying that for a time. Remember that? Like what it was like, like we're not gonna do anything. And now it's almost that way here too.

I've heard that you're allowed to like, we had that conversation. You're allowed to like steal up to like a thousand dollars worth of stuff now. And it's like, yeah, that's not good. Is that seem like a rational thing to do? No, I would say that's not the way to go in any realm, like as a, like just a mindful

person, it's like, okay, well, I'm going to just take this, I'm going to take this from you, it's less than a thousand dollars. So it doesn't matter. Like, where could there be a, where could there be a conscious thought in that mindset like they're just it's not possible yeah so yeah unless you really want to $999 with a shit then it's gonna work out pretty good I mean I could use $999 with a shit I mean I actually couldn't I got enough stuff but I mean yeah all you would buy escape I was gonna say I but I mean, yeah, or you would buy escape. I was in the second or I mean steal the scale. Yeah, I could.

You'd have 47 new skateboards and I'd be like, seriously, that's what you got. You need socks. I actually just got some socks on the way from the old Bezos. Well, I mean, I don't know what people think now. I don't even know if they're still like strong QAnon as left, but I Would assume that most of them realize the the at least where it came from it's Bullshit what was it? Can you just explain for people that don't know maybe be even in general like

What would be the if you had to like sum up the plot and the narrative of QAnon in itself? We'll just finish with that. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, let me take the documentary part away because even though that's probably the more clear thing, but they don't really fully get into the plot. They're just like researching where it came from with their loot to some of the things that it talked about. Is QAnon just pro-Tr Trump? Is that what was that like?

It seems that way. And when I lived in Tennessee, and because I was staying there last year, I knew people there. So they don't actually have an idea. And I- And I- And I- And I- And I-

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And honestly, it was very disturbing because they weren't crazy people. They were nice. They were, I liked them. But I would talk to them about this and they would want me to watch videos and I would see how it affected one of my closest friends and I'm like, this doesn't seem very reasonable,

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Sure. Right. So it's like your love for America, believing in good, over evil, and you know, also bringing really bad criminals to justice.. And we're in with it. Like, I think that was like the overarching energy that I felt and I'm like, okay, all those things are good. I agree with all of that. You want good over evil. Well, the bad people are good at dealing with it. But we're trying to line an interesting spot for good over evil.

We'll just go ahead and make that clear. Well, but they just, it just seemed like they decided what that was. Okay, I think we all do that so that's fair enough. Okay, so what are the negatives from here? Well It's it was so preposterous Like it was more it seemed more absurd to me than flat earth and that was pretty deemed more absurd to me than flat Earth. And that was pretty absurd.

Yeah, right. Like, I guess, I guess saying that is not really fair because it could be possible in some sense that the Q things were happening, like physically. Like you can't make the earth flat, but you could make those horrible things happen. But it was like, how would anyone be able to hold the conspiracy like that? And why would an entire political party be able to like be primarily

motivated on doing horrendous things to people and show it just didn't make any sense? That's hard. That's a big leap. That's so I wonder where that leap came from. I really did. And I like some of these people. Like they want, like I said, they want to have a little more. What do you think about the director of the thing? Was he trying to be objective or subjective the whole time, do you think?

What do you think? It's hard to say because he got in so early. I mean, unless he knew that this was like primarily- Because he didn't seem like- Like, republican-based and- And- and maybe he was like a staunch liberal. They just wanted to go and debunk it. But-

I- I- I don't know- I didn't get that vibe, did you? Like, I almost felt like he was- Almost like- I want to say, siding, but like, saw- He drew on some stuff that he thought could potentially be like let's say I'm saying I want at least want to believe that like even when it comes to all these like isms and things that we

like attach ourselves to it's like I just want to see where you're coming from to make it like righteous and better than some well but a lot of these if you watch a lot of documentaries you notice that a lot of these, if you watch a lot of documentaries, you notice that a lot of these guys when they're like narrating over their own documentary, they make themselves sound very neutral. Like, oh, I investigated this and this came up. But look, they have to have some bias

that even go into the damn thing. Like, why would you even make it? Like, what do you make it in a minute? I'm trying to figure it out. I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out.

I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out.

I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I mean, I the way of your basketball. Yeah, well, I just I don't I could see you make that yeah, but that would that would be me having to figure out how people got to a certain situation And I want to solve the homeless situation if I could pick one topic to fucking fix It would be the homeless situation I like that would make the most really because if I could pick one topic to fix is why you keep using ice cubes in all of your drinks during

These guys I just need to make sure they stay cold and I can't even manage make sure they're And you put the AC on bro, it's it's 75 but yeah, let's say you pick that one right? Let's say you pick the homeless one And you go out there and you're like trying, you're communicating with them, you're talking to them, you go in, open mind. So what's it, what's it? Just trying to find the narrative.

I think even the narrative itself starts to open you up to like a story that you find. I lost my brother two weeks ago. I have, I lost my, I'm sure there's a variety of stories. And I'm not saying that I ever want to be, my point is that that scenario in itself would be a huge pill to swallow, and I would love to, I don't want to say I would love to attack that situation, but I would love to see progression in that area.

Absolutely. It seems like they talk about like Moving forward to the next podcast. I think they were talking about how much money that has spent on the fucking homeless scenario What's the next guy's name? I forgot he's one of the smartest guys on the planet, too, right? Here the the what's his name the newest pod? name the newest pod. The newest part is the book, Christchurch, Tom. No, no, but the one. Oh, the Patrick. Yeah, sorry. The last one. Yeah, but let's jump over to him right now. That's right. Joe Rogan experienced review podcasts is brought to you by bet DSI. You guys looking for a place to bet on NFL and NCAA football. Bet DSI is an industry leader in football betting in the perfect sports

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and get this limited time 100% bonus offer to make some extra cash in the sports you know and love. Use Bitcoin and get 100% deposit bonus on your first two deposits up to 2000. It's only a game. Till you bet it at bet D. S. Let's go. Peace out. Patrick that day. That guy is so smart. Yeah. Well Joe is just talking about that guy was great. He comes up on all my likes feeds just because he's like a motivation. Yeah, yeah, big

fan, big fan. But they were talking about how many people are employed by the homeless situation. And it's like, that is not being exposed as much as it has to be. There's people making money up. They're like farming people like that. Dude, a quarter of a million dollars.

What a, like, we're talking government jobs, jobs that we pay for, and they make a quarter of a million dollars. Dude, you could have a Ferrari if you make a quarter of a million dollars. Do we need to pay people that deal with the homeless crisis with a Ferrari on government taxes? I don't want to be anti-government, but that seems like a lot. Here's the deal. That doesn't seem like you give a shit about homeless people. If there's not homeless people, have your Ferrari. If the homeless people are

accounted for, take your Ferrari. I'm okay with you having a Ferrari. But the fucking job isn't done. There's no job that's being applied. The job is clearly not being fucking, like, handled, because the, the, didn't you, didn't you say those, they, yeah, sort of though. It's weird. I never, I never, I never, I was, I was talking to my brother about it.

He's like, yeah, they do that every six months and then it just comes back and they just do it every six months and then it just comes back. And I feel like that's just like, oh, if you was like, that's what, they just pulled those them out of every six months. I mean, they come in there with food and whatnot. I don't know where they you guys think that's what they just bulldoze them out of every thing. I mean, they come in there with food and whatnot.

I don't know where they ship them off to or what they do, but it's right back within a, like, I was at gold. I told you that I go back there and it's the same shit. It's just like they've been doing it for years. I'm sure that it's like, all right. Well, that's the, that's the six week spot we got to go to. We have the reserve spot. We'll just charge our iPhones over there.

I don't like the sound of it, man. To me, I don't trust that shit. When they bring that list up and it should, and you know, you could say to yourself, well, it's such a big problem. You need to have really good managers in place to make, you know what? I know really good people that work really hard

in different areas of their careers, like counseling is one of them, and they make 50 to 60,000 a year, and they put a lot in there. But they find satisfaction. So you're telling me you need to give someone five times of much. Money is not a form of satisfaction or a sign of wealth.

Like obviously. It's definitely a sign of wealth, money. It is. Well, I just, but I see I think I know the monetary version. I agree, but the sense of satisfaction that I think that you're drawing upon that your friends have is much more valuable than. Yeah, I think once you stop paying someone quarter of a million dollars to do a job, even if they

go into it with like all the love in the world to help the, you know, and that's the type of career that you would go into if you really wanted to make a difference. And now you're paying them so much that they, you know, if they live in California, they're living like the Joneses, like, I don't know, man. If they knew next year, if they sorted this problem out, they made half as much. Do you honestly think they want to solve that problem out? That's a bit of my issue.

That's a great question. I don't think they would want. That's a great question. No, they're gonna go, I want to get paid more because I have more bills, and now my kids are in private school, and it's like wait a second. Didn't you start out doing this because you cared about homeless people?

Again, does that go back to your 20s and 30s? I don't know. How old are these people making this money? Probably in their 30s. That's a good question too. Probably. Yeah, probably. Because they pay their, they probably sacrifice their 20 20s fucking kids and babies and like

Work in 80 hours finding their way. I don't I I don't know the right answer to that question, but it seems like the system like if It's gonna take enough of rooting of the whole system. We've been so And let's just go ahead and say we the system has been pretty good in comparison So that's all we can really draw upon. And like, I'm not hating on America when it comes down to this because we have a fuck. We have it. Pretty fucking good.

I mean, no, dude, if you see what's going on last, we have the best, like we legitimately have it the best and they're not recognized. That is not even fucking silly and stupid. So I have, I have tickets back to England. I'll be doing pods from England in over Christmas. And I don't even know if I can get over there or if they're going to make me quarantine or like what the fuck is going to happen? I don't know. Like other countries are super closed down compared to what America's so so God bless I would you think I not to jump back to politics but with his most recent guests I forgot his name

but I love the narrative that Patrick when he was like what's it was it he the way he did the pod is how I want to continue to do our pod and like always like stimulate new thought and try and find new solutions and new ideas. The way he was talking to Joe was like, man, that's how I wanna hear. I don't even wanna say every part, but that's how I wanna hear just every conversation, provoking, all right, well, what can we do to,

just bouncing things off was what I drew off that heat constantly, be like, all right, so what's this, and what's this,'s this yeah, and Joe didn't have like a list of these things made up He's like having to think off the cup, but the best shit usually comes off the cuff, you know what I mean? So it's like Well, I think the what I've always loved about Joe is broadcast and I think what Patrick But David is talking about is that you talk so long and so freely, you have the opportunity to say something stupid, which you and I are excellent at doing, right?

But you know what's beautiful about that, is like they're not thinking about talking points, in the sense of you're not thinking about these little new snippets or how you're gonna get cancelled because you say one word wrong is just like a stream of consciousness with a regular conversation and you know what? sometimes you'd say dumb shit sometimes you might say something that's worthless and two and sometimes some shit might be funny. But that's what's important, right? And if you could see, if you could see the people that make out decisions in a more open space like that,

I think that the trust would it increase even if they said some dumb shit. 100% want that's more real. That's what we've got authenticity. Never fucking waivers. That's the thing. That's what we've authenticity never fucking waivers. That's the thing. It's like, unless you're not a complete or not being authentic or a complete dick, but either way, that should shine through. And then to be honest with you, if enough people fucking hopefully, you're not that narcissistic or in that like sociopathic that you don't have it, like a wherewithal to be like well maybe

maybe the collective isn't wrong like yeah well maybe that change you'll that right that's what you think about them saying that Tulsi could be perfect I'm 100% for it like I the more and more she's pretty good I get more and more like it's I don't want to say it's hatch but like I was having a conversation with Isaac in the song the other day it's like just talking to my brother it seems to me to be able to send people to war you you have and you should be have some frame of reference on that you should have to gone to war in order to be able to tell other people that they should give their lives. That should be a normal thing that's written in the fucking contract because that's part of the deal

Like you have the ability to send people to go die and if you have the ability to send people to go die You should have at least had to witness that or at least had to be part of that so you know that The yeah, I don't disagree with that because you could still come out. Let's say you just did four years, right? You just did like a short stand. Right. And maybe your experience in there wasn't great. Right. So you, you see some real problems, but then you could use that as like a strong, democratic, a 100% and say, I don't like what I saw. Or you could go in and love it and come out with the, with the difference. I be okay. I mean, I think some of that I think tosy or Dan Khrinshawik it would have obviously shift the narrative of where the country would be going, but to be honest with you, I don't see tosy taking a complete like fucking liberal thought process.

She's a free thinker. That's why they didn't fucking allow her to get in there. That's what we need in there is young people. We need people in their 30s that aren't fucking convoluted and don't have an agenda. You need people in there that are like, want to do these homeless jobs and are at the prime of their, they're at the prime of their, and Dan Crancho, who seems to give them, I'm okay with both of them.

Some pretty liberal. She has a thought, the full process. It is as long as you're like, launches thought processor that hasn't been already fucking welled by Congress and by the Senate for years of your life, you're fresh, you're speaking on behalf of the people, that's what we need a young person, not even young, but 30 to 50.

No, we need a young person. 30 to 50, nobody, these 80 year old people are so stupid and old. So dumb. They're too old. 100, what are we thinking? They're a fucking hundred years old. Why are you still working? Go fucking the Tahiti and buy an island. Go to an island. And enjoy yourself. Nobody hates you. Go away. Just go away. Go away. Seriously. Like, what are we doing? Let's get some young fucking person in there that has some free thought and wants to see a better world.

We don't need like some, you already know. Yeah, super-related. So we got the debates, right? They were talking about getting Obama and Trump together. I don't know how good of an idea that would be. Maybe it would be good. I'd listen to it. I think it would be important.

It's weird. But along that same thought process, think about what two people you'd listen to it. I think it would be important. It's it's weird. But along that same thought process Think about what two people you'd want to get together. It's in I will think about that right now, but it's in and I All right, I'm thinking to my like when was the last time? You would have thought let's get the last two presidents in a room together You wouldn't think George W and fuck I mean George W. Phil Clinton but that'd even be interesting I don't even want to hear George W talk. Like such an idiot. I mean he's probably smart.

He went to I mean the school but period. But I was watching that. I think anyone will want to see the last two, like from the beginning of time, everybody, but it's the beginning of the beginning of the beginning, but these would definitely be the most everyone will want to see the last. These would be the most two like press. The goal rising. I would assume. I guess that's just going to be how human nature works.

The last two are going to be who are George W. No, no, I would assume I guess that's just gonna be how human nature works the last two are gonna be who are George W No, I would say I would say Obama and And Trump are gonna be the two most polarizing just cuz Obama yeah But but couldn't it be useful like you seem sat in a room potentially Starting to discuss things they both agree on look at the end of the day, you give them rodons for them, right? And now they're just left to go. And who knows? Maybe I know, um, Trump doesn't drink, but maybe, maybe somehow like he has a whiskey and soda's Obama. And then they start talking about how fucking crazy that job is. And then you realize,

okay, they're obviously very different. Very different ideologies, but like they start to just chat about the insanity of this job that no one jobs. They show you the aliens, they show you the aliens and that would be wild. That would become the biggest part. There would be the most listened to thing ever listened to. Whether or not you wouldn't even know if you could believe it or not. But if you just sit... No, no, it goes like this.

So Trump goes, Trump goes, hey, they show you the aliens, and then a bomb is like, oh shit. And then it goes quiet, and then it's 10 seconds or not. And then it's like, so everyone thinks that they just shut out. And then it turns back on, and Joe is just imagining this. And he's is just like hold on I need to get high for this and they just they go out of it for two more hours about what the aliens do that would be we could only hope and then look in this world could we believe anything else at this point I mean think wait it's almost like throw it All right, I said it best he said the idea of reincarnation the fact that I showed up in this world is bizarre enough the fact that I wouldn't show up again

What's bizarre about that? Yeah All right, so who else would you want to see? I can't I always want to see a god If you get two people together, who would you want to see? Who I'm always thinking maybe maybe it's maybe gogins trump Goggins from You know, it would just be gogins talking about how difficult things are he's done and trump going oh, I did Well, he's done in Trump going oh, I did Yeah, well he's like like wait What you've got I've done a million push-ups. What happened with you? I could do two million

on the bus and the bus push-up I could do five million I thought Elon and Bezos was being good. That's a good one. Yeah get them battling like the two richest fuckers in the world Well not including the South do you think that's a thing and you I, get them battling. Like the two richest fuckers in the world. Well, not including the South. Do you think that's a thing that you, I don't think Elon even has the desire to be like, I want to be the richest. That's not even, do you think that comes, is that like a game we're playing?

Do you have that, do you have, is that like a game you get to that point? I have a feeling that he doesn't, I think the when they get that rich, they're not really thinking about it as money, as like a tool to get the things done they want done. You know what I mean? How is it?

If you're in the top 10 of the richest people, you're not really buying shit at that point. Like everything in the world is free. You can have anything. You want all the, like, there's, think about it. There's no house on the planet They can't afford what's the most expensive house? 100 million they could buy

Fucking a thousand That's like Whatever, but why is it but why is it that the same approach is let's get to space? the same approach is let's get to space. Oh, because they're trying to escape. I just had a weird day job with my mom. I think I've had like neurolinked dreams. Like I think I, what? Like I think I, well, I think I've, I've thought about the

communication and I keep talking. I need a need to use no, no, I think that I've had situations where I've, like in these dreams where I've looked at people and I think that might just be a dream association in general, but like I've looked at people and knew what they wanted to say to me without actual words. I think that's that would probably fall in the neuro link. I would say that would fall in the neuro link category. It's interesting and I get accused for ice cubes, but this guy is taking a piss on the pod.

What I'm just saying, what do you, what audience please give me some feedback? Where do you stand on the Vax? I just want, I'm not one way or the other, but I would like to get some understanding and reach out to the people that have been Vax. I just want I'm not one way or the other, but I would like to get some understanding and and reach out to the people that have been Vax. Just get a response to to if they would do it again or where why they did it or if they feel it was the right play and hindsight and where you're at with that. Great. Now I have to deal with a bunch of units. Thank you. Shoot them right to fine. I'll forward in the you and you won't get bad.

No, I'll get back to you. So tell me more about these narrow link trends. Dreams where you could read people's well, I would just be able to like look at them and understand what they had already wanted me to understand without any words. Don't you feel huh?

You ever felt that in a dream in general. You can like without having to like no dialogue, you just like can have like I've had that with my mom since she's passed like I'll have these dreams where it's just like I can sense her there. But she's not like I don't necessarily see her face or like hear her words but I can sense that she's already there. You know what I mean? The Nurellig thing doesn't sound as crazy to me is I think even Joe makes out. Like Joe, Joe, the wire's,

the wire will happen and he's like, he seems to be like, you know, we'll be able to like understand people without words and it doesn't seem that shocking to me. I feel like wouldn't, wouldn't that just be more helpful? Like how often have you tried to want to tell someone something? And you can't get it across. Like you're not listening or you're not. It's going to leave you a ego and it's going to alleviate lies. If it works in itself. Oh, yeah. Everyone's going to if you're a lie that I'm telling you people if you move into the future of Neurolink you

need in your liar you need to find a way to know because that's gonna be you that's gonna be your will be exposed immediately there will be well but people can already tell lies now really like not you're way but eventually you could lie to people like you could get you could that's it's doable yeah sometimes but you can't do it a lot like people that lie a lot everyone else that's true like they just know they're not trustworthy you just know

that it's a mess so if you if you if you've got any lies left get a wallet get try, man, just try your best, because that shit's gonna ruin it. It's just gonna make it no fun. And that's the thing. I think that we're gonna see the early adopters and the early volunteers that are really into it and having a good time with it. They're the maybe the most honest, well, that's the most in the right or wrong, they may have some crazy

ideas of things but that you know more think about it that's the whole sense of enlightenment is releasing the ego so maybe this will be the pathway to that because the ego is the only thing that gets in the way of anything right ultimately that's the only thing that really fucks anybody in any kind of building a deeper relationship. Yeah, the ego has to be the reason you lie. 100% because there's no other reason with it. Well, we've all lied. We've all lied. We all know what lie is. And when you've done it, if you think back or if you still do it, you're like five. I wanted to say that the ego is only central to human, but you think about it.

And like the lion world, I don't know if it ego is like a dissolving thing that continually has to be proven over and over again and that kind of realm. But like the only other place that I could associate ego would be either like lions or like dominant animals because that's nobody. No, like a dog doesn't have a ego. Like Rupert doesn't want to run around with a ego, you know, I mean she's like It's the only thing that how do you know? I feel like dogs in embarrassed though You know when they're in trouble if you ever caught a dog like

Yeah, but sometimes they don't it's not just that they sit there they look they look like and like other species, you know what I mean? Because you either like thrive, you're the thriving or you're scared. That is one of the two. I don't know, man. I don't think that the humans are all that different than animals. I think we just have cool shit and we talk. I think that's the only thing that separates us

from animals, that's my point. I think at the end of the day, that's kind of the only separation is the ego. Because we, I think they might have it. We just don't understand. There might be more enlightened because they seem a lot more peaceful, you know, without it. Well, they don't don't have cool shit like it was cool. So I can bandanas. All right, you don't live in a cave. Do you? My bandanas?

You have the greatest collection of bandanas I've ever ever seen in my life and that was before the pandemic All right, so let's talk about you two which is The last thing that Joe really talked about on this and he went into it in more detail Than I think he ever does which was really interesting to me because we all know he jumped over to Spotify and you know It's like why did you do it and people are frustrated with it? They get mad at these ads or whatever and it's just like well number one. He had ads in you get mad everywhere But they kind of no, I'm not talking I'm like people I got you I hear people talk about I want them and also to be honest sometimes when I try and fast forward through those ads it does shut my

Spotify off so I have to like go back and find the spot Well I have an android When the android train money Android train it's part of Garrett and I big that boost mobile getcha but I for a virgin

hey all right I'm rising mobile phone will get you pre-pitch so they talk about demonetization you can't even you can't even be saying that even mention

I the Tom can't even mention I ever met the word no no that was crazy right so some of those news shows He was saying that he didn't mention the Tom can't even mention I ever met the word No, no that was crazy, right? So some of those news shows I don't follow YouTube enough But like some of those news shows and not even able to say I've remakting and even us saying it now if we like people talk to us about getting YouTube show and I'm just like well, what's the point? If that's gonna be, I like I just thought. Well, that's the thing too, because anything. I'm thinking the algorithm has to work in that way too.

So they just like, they're sifting through certain keywords. And they're like, all right, well, this is a red flag. They said the word. Let's go see the context that they said it in. All right, that doesn't work. The amount of time. Is that how this whole thing is unfolding? Because that's the kind of the thought process that I got.

Because the algorithm has to be working in that kind of realm too, right? Well, if they're uploading the amount that they say, there's no way they have somebody checking all these videos. Well, there's kind of the media impossible. Well, there's gotta be a filter that says if you say this word red flag it.

Exactly, but that's just the computer, right? Doing it. And then, but then at the same time, they demonetizing Tom Papa ones. What's he talking about? Red, like how does that make any sense? Yeah, so, wow, you know, that dough is sour. So it's hard to know how. I want to hear it all. And I want to be able to search for it all and I want that to just let's stop trying to fucking put floaties on everything like it's like let's just let the floodgates loose and let the people die who's gonna die on the drugs. Let's make it all legal. and and and and and and and and and and

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and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and turning off a Tom Papa part here but here's the deal here's the deal it's all nothing why why are you why are you gonna be the one that gets to just like pick

what what shouldn't shouldn't be on I certainly will not be the point so the Q&A you're saying there should be no censorship there's some awful things out there dude you can't show it all you can't have child pornography so there is a limit but we have to find a better limit than we have. Yeah, for censorship. I mean, it just seems very important. I agree. I don't know.

Maybe that's just because we podcast. I don't know. Fair enough. It's a tough one. I know where you draw the line. But I'll tell you what you're not gonna get that with us like when I'm gonna Either someone's just gonna switch off this podcast or like we're gonna say what we And that's that's why I don't sign up for this You don't want to be right. We just want to be informed. Like, that's always the central theme,

and should always be the central theme of life. Well, we're definitely gonna change our mind on stuff. We do it all the time. We're not, like Joe says, we're not our ideas. They're just our ideas now, and you know, you can update them whenever you want, like it doesn't matter. I have five years of these fucking podcasts

Man, if you go back to the beginning and what I thought then No, I remember that pot Funny is the you ever said. What? Brilliant. But that's exactly it, right? Like shit changes. Like we, I'm sure we're saying stuff today that in 10 years we're going to be like, can

you believe we said that, right? But we're doing our best. So we're like, oh, that was lot. So mean. So mean. Mm. Ah, that was hilarious. Good work. All right. Well, Joe ends it with his advice is be undeniable. Be undeniable so people tune in.

We don't try to be that, but be just be authentic. It's OK. Be doing that. I love it. Thanks always for joining and tuning in. Everybody, we really appreciate it. And we will see you next week for I think what is the beginning of some sober October then. So if anyone wants to join us, I will be sober for that month. A UN Garrett. A lot of pressure. I kind of hate you with that. But I'm in. So up to you.

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