Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 244 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Steven Rinella Et al.

Episode Date: October 14, 2021

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Open it up here with Steve Rinella. What a legend they got. I'm excellent. I'm actually Steve. Steve Rinella is. Like that show, Meezy is great. The podcast is really good too. Have you listened to many of those? I haven't heard a whole lot of my heard Joe talking about how

I found it interesting. I'm sure we'll jump into this. But like, how whenever he does the show and they don't even get a kill that those are majority of those episodes are like some of the best episodes he's ever had. Yeah those episodes are really good to be honest. Yeah. Just because it's like it almost like more thought revoking like because he has to wait around so he starts talking about his life growing up and other things and he's just such a good kind of narrator.

Almost like almost poetically hunter like he lives in he lives in montagne. Yeah, he lives in Boseman lives in the town that I live in shout out to Boseman want to tell you. Yeah, is that kind of the I mean not to stereotype, but is that kind of the personality traits that you find from a lot of people there? Just because he seemed like such a genuine guy. Like he's very, yeah, there's, there's a lot of that here. Like a, like, yeah, there is a lot of good conversation. People say, you're happy.. You meet the hunters here that thought provoking. Like they're introspective. And there's not like a hillbilly energy.

People say those people say that I've noticed. I even found an interesting, I was walking to go pick up some take-out for a couple days ago and an older couple was walking down the side of the street and they said, hi, and I was like, hey, how you doing? I was like, that's like unheard of. It seems like now and now that it's like, you just walk probably whether you'd head down

and you're on the wall. I was like, so I was, you know, it's weird that didn't used to be that way in Santa Monica. No. I mean, like before the pandemic broke, everyone was saying hi to each other. It was weird because it's like quite a big city in a sense.

Absolutely. And it isn't to you live there. And it's like quite a big city in a sense. Absolutely, and it isn't the only living there. Well, I mean, it's like a million people just there. I mean, that's not huge, but it's pretty big. Way bigger than Bozeman, which is like 45,000 or something. And yeah, there was like a good energy for that. Like, he seems like it's lost that recently. Yeah, for sure. He's a nice nice such a good dude

He's just telling stories about how he takes walks with his kids and like He just seems to be like a great family man. He was a author too. He's written a couple of books. Yeah Yeah, one of really good one he has I fuck I forgot the name of it, but I think I have it, but it's about cooking You know like how to read like a cookbook for a game. Right. You know, meat. Which, to be honest, like a lot of people don't like gaming, because they're like, well, one,

they say it's gaming, and two, it's, you know, it's just different than other meat, like, it takes a bit more work, but when it's prepped, I mean, it's healthier, I would imagine. Right. And, uh, no research or science of my own, but it's healthier, I would imagine. Right. And, uh, I wish I had no research or science in my own, but it's organic. Yeah. And, um, you know, but you've got to know how to, like, use it, cook it.

That's what I was trying to do this year with my hunting, is I get to the point where, you know, the bow season wasn't great for me. I mean, I didn't get anything, but like, I want to, I want to learn like, the process of preparing't great for me. I mean, I didn't get anything, but I want to learn the process of preparing it all. Absolutely. It sounds gruesome, but just understanding how to chop it all up and get it ready.

I always saw that story to people that are super left on Bonneby vegetarian or vegan. I always say Joe always says that he was either going to be a hunter or become a vegetarian and he decided to go hunting. But I mean, I got a sad developed a new appreciation for elk. I decided for the first time a few weeks ago, buddy, and mine brought me over a burger and I was like, damn, this is what Joe is talking about. This is actually amazing. It's substantially better.

Well, don't give me wrong, man. I mean, when I moved to the US in 1997, I'd been a vegetarian my whole life. Oh, really? And my dad's a pacifist. We did charity work for Greenpeace growing up. The idea of any kind of hunting was so foreign to me and I did not like the sound of it at all It's like it was not where I was at so but but the more I talked to them You know people that I who went hunting I was like oh they're not what I thought they were

I thought they were just savages like killing things. Yeah, they're out there right? I really did I completely had the same narrative in my head until I kind of opened myself up to the idea. I mean, I don't know, it's interesting too, how much like adding, I don't want to say one way or the other, whether it's good or bad, whatever, but the way that Joe was talking about one of his buddies having to eat meat in order for his body to heal quicker. I found that pretty interesting. Oh yeah, that was Travis Barker from

that shot. I'm going 182. So he got in a plane crash, right? A few years, I think it was like a decade ago. Got in a plane crash and it like burnt his skin like the jet fuel when he like escaped from it. Right. And yeah, he'd been a vegan, and he just wasn't healing. Like, just wasn't. Now, you know, I have friends that have vegans that have really good immune systems. So to say, it's because his immune system was too weak because of that. I mean, if you think about it, he just added like a severe trauma to it. So he required probably special nutritional demands for that reason,

but yeah, he did it and good for him. I mean, you know, you got to get better. We're both mediators, so I guess it's easy for us to say we're on that side of it, but do you see an advantage to being what did you see any advantages to being a vegetarian over being a meat eater or vice versa? You know, I was only 14 or 13 when I stopped eating just only vegetables, I guess, and tops or whatever, but um, I don't know. I mean It's hard to say. I was because I was found it interesting. I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's hard to say. I was because I was found it interesting.

I mean, I just enjoyed it more. I enjoyed food more once I tasted a steak. You know, I put it on a lot of weight right away. That's for sure. Right. Like I actually had some muscle, right? Which when you're a teenager in high school, feels good.

That's what you want to do. Yeah, right. I was still pretty skinny, but like I put on someone. you can see that was probably the best time to start eating meat if you had to pick a time I imagine your body's yeah, I was transitioning anyway, so it's like all right Yeah, I mean probably as a little kid. It's it's maybe good because like think of the junk that kids want to Candy sodas Just you know chicken nuggets like you name it I never had any I used to go to my friend's house I remember I used to go to my friend's houses and

they would have all this meat in their freezer and they'd have those dinosaur shaped breaded nuggets yeah nuggets and I thought they were billionaires I saw that and I was like you lucky bastards. You bet how do you even have this? Think about what they feed kids in and high school and in grade school It's like you wonder why these kids are bouncing off the wall. They're straight up eating them process food and sugar It's like what if you gave them a good diet. They might not be so ADHD I'm just making speculation here. Yeah I well it schools in England so they give you meals like they're covered right oh

I think you pay something brother like every day you get a meal everyone gets one right and I always had to have the vegetarian one Because my parents told the school like you're vegetarian and so I just had to eat it But I was always watching other kids like eat them burgers or sausages or whatever and like that looks good and then they would have these like special vegetarian meals for me and I just have to be like always the odd one out just you know this is like the 80s man people were like what are you doing? I was gonna say were you I don't know you know I guess I just do this. Were you an outcast and then they waited you ever have any desire to do it? Or were you just like, this is what my family does?

This is what I do. Yeah, no, I supported it. I, you know, I've always been able to kind of hold my own with being different. So I just did it, you know, he was just not, like I never really looked forward to lunchtime. Right. Because it just didn't taste that good.

It was just boring. In contrast, I remember back when I matched potatoes and a bunch of edge the balls. It was like it was always missing something. Right. My dad used to sell meat door to door. Now I'm thinking back, I used to go with him when I was young too. Sometimes we'd have like, he worked for some, I don't know know what they call that like private butcher or something like that But we were just driving a pickup truck with a big freeze around the back and go door-to-door selling people all my hostics Talk about a fricking salesman my dad was My dad could sell anything who's like that old phrase catch up popsicle to what man white gloves That was my pops I did so meat in boxes it was just like

I feel like a legal drug dealer. I guess that's what everything is and some like to some extreme you buy and bulk and then sell it for More expensive, but Well, I mean that's kind of like the hard work. This Steve and Ella was talking about like he Wait, remember when he got into talking about being a manager like how he Feels like he's a bad manager. Right. Because he just talks to everybody the same, like he doesn't have like manager mode. But one thing he's always respected

is people being able to get in the dirt. Right. And what the shit is like. Yeah, that kind of thing, right? Shovel shit. And that's what that sounds like. That's a lot. Do-do-do-do-dom steak salesman.

Imagine how fucking hard that job is. Let me tell you with a kicker, my dad had cancer too, and he had a colostomy bag on his stomach. So he would be walking into these places with a fucking shit bag on the side of his stomach, and he'd have to swallow his pride and go sell these steaks to people. I don't know how he did it, but man,

I used to look at him and just be like, wow, that I mean, as I've gotten older, we had our miss. Talk about getting it done. You know what I mean? Find an way. Yeah. Find an way.

God bless. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, that's impressive. I look back on like now. Whenever I'm complaining about things, like, you know, and they say don't compare to like people having dope lives on Instagram because it's probably not real and they say don't compare to like people having dope lives on Instagram because it's probably not real but also don't compare necessarily to people having worst days but sometimes I think if you're gonna

compare in any direction which we probably always do it might be better to just be like think of the struggle of other people like my body ash always brings up Normandy Right and like 18 year olds having to run that beach, right? And it's like is your day really that bad? I was like ash. I got a flat tie And he's like yeah, you could get another time. I got him like stop. It's good though I mean, you know, it's what life does like Jaco's video good, right? It's it's a bit of that and that it does make sense. We're gonna carry the boat.

Yeah, but again when it's when it's your day though, when it's just like your day going to hell, you just you forget about it. Yeah, absolutely. You really did. Absolutely. I. Did you ever heard of anybody hallucinating on tobacco Renella was talking about that. I never heard of that. I guess he was young and pricute a lot of it I could see it if you like swallowed it maybe I remember when I was young playing third base and like I remember little league

And somehow one of the guys got his hand on his hands on it. We were super young and never tried it before I'd say that that would be a good good representation. I probably was hallucinating to some extent. I never tried never trying nicotine before. I remember I was sitting on third base like whoa like kind of out of my mind. Yeah, it's a strong it's a strong high. The first time I did strong highs for sure. The first time I did chewing tobacco, was at some high school party when I was like 17 in Albuquerque.

And I didn't remember a lot of it. I know they gave me a can and they were like, you got to spit it in the can, which I was just forgetting because I was like drinking booze. And I'm just there like drinking beers and they're like, what are you spitting any of this? And the next day I've never been so sick. Like it's the most sick I ever was because it was like 24 hours of throwing out to like

jenders. But I don't remember hallucinating. I'm to jenders shame anybody or anything, but have you ever, have you ever met a chick that you never met? No, no, no, no, what have you ever met a girl that dips? I'm trying to think about never met a girl I was walking around dipping. I Don't think so. It's group. It's kind of gross. He's really gross. It's a bit gross I was gonna say I can't imagine a female doing that. I just never witnessed it But that would be an interesting baseball play is all the time and that's thing It almost seems like it's like a set the way he was talking about it he's like so endeared to the thing I think it's

as part of the culture and what he's grown up on but it's like it's almost a thing like if you could the more you can fit in your lip the cooler you are sometimes it is kind of the oh yeah don't they call that a horseshoe something yes I put it all around your whole mouth. Like that guy's a good luck man right there. I know. Yeah. Yeah. 5,000 milligrams of nicotine. Yeah. That's guys clearly a winner. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what you'd rather do.

Do you have to pick that or smoke and cigarettes? I don't know which one you choose. I'm very fortunate that I didn't get involved in that at the young age because that should grips people to know. Yeah, I don't know what's worse. Probably, I mean, if baseball players do it, then it's probably cigarettes or worse. I mean, baseball players have been known to smoke cigarettes in the clubhouse too and just not right up. Fair enough. I think cigarettes have kind of like lost their cool to a lot of people. I don't know, people still smoke, but it

doesn't seem like it's as prevalent as it once was Yeah, probably not as cool as it was Joe's saying that mountain lion was fucking dope. He's talked about that a few times But like talking to Rinella about it like Rinella knows. Yeah, he's shit when it comes to that and like So Joe says you seen I think three but this last one was like the ultimate, you know, mountain, just staring at him. And so rare, you know, it's like, so I just, it's so amazing to me that a creature that large, that, you know, has to eat a lot every day. Like it weighs almost like a full-grown big one is like almost as heavy as we are.

Really? Imagine what it has to eat and it only eats meat. It's not in vegetables. So that's a lot of meat a day. What do you think they would have to eat a day? Two pounds of meat? I'm curious. I must be sure they go through. How many calories? I bet you they go days without eating too, right? So the one ever they... Yeah, no doubt. But I mean when they get like a whole deer, they probably a lot of it sure so they you know maybe they just can like really stock up and then have a nap for a few days but I mean a lot of calories right so they're on the hunt they're moving always I'm amazed there's not more mountain lion attacks really because they must see us, you know,

hairless monkeys, wobbling around the environment and the thing with predators is they're always looking for like the easiest kill, like the dumb deer, whoever's wobbling around, and they must look at us stumbling over the terrain and be like these, I can monkeys so down. Like I could kill that thing so easily. Like a deer can run fast. What are we gonna do? Shhh.

If a mountain lion was full on coming at us, what do you, nothing? Forget it. I'm trying to think, I need to put one of your options, you just played it. Nothing, bro. They can climb trees.

Right. Like where do you go? you don't do anything in relation to that story what can you imagine the friggin grizzly bear it you could feel its breath on your neck whenever you told him that I was like oh when he said that I'm amazed they ran away why didn't it just knock him in the head oh leave shit I was so I think what I I think we just look really weird to animals probably like I think predators see us and they're just like I don't know what that is One wise wearing clothes or her Like why did they stand up straight like I think we just look so odd right that most of the time they're like, you know what? I'm just gonna chase a deer. Yeah, I mean, and we can make some crazy noises too.

That probably are not art form to their ears. That's probably pretty scary to them. Yeah, thank God. I'll have to cross into that. What do you think about what? Yeah, because we're so clueless in the wild, really. Even you take the greatest hunters. Like they're not gonna do well against

a grizzly bear attack in that camp. Like we've already heard that um, that story. Story we've already heard that... Camaroons, that story. Story, I don't know if Steve Rinaldo was that. I don't think he was, but a lot of the top hunters were. Yikes. And yeah.

What do you think about when... Just runs through the place and runs off. Not to transition right off that, but Steve's such a good guy. He comes from such a wholesome spot that he found interesting when he was talking to about his son and how he's going to encourage him to go into the service and he's like, I didn't do it so because his son was like thinking about maybe he wanted to join Mediter and he wanted to start doing that and he was like, I want to encourage him to go in the service basically because he didn't do, because his father had semi-encouraged him,

but his father was like, what are you going to join the service for if there's no war? And the more I think that- Oh, I think that was his grandad. Oh, it was grandad, okay. I mean, he said it was grandad. But yeah, yeah, what are you going to do if there's no war?

I mean, I'll tell you, whenever 9-11 happened, there was a certain, like, I'm going to go grab a gun and I'm going to go do this. And the more and more Things came out and it's like Who's war are we fighting like a lot of this what comes down to you know I mean where you're just it seems like is you're you're fighting like a lobbyist war at all times no matter what you're doing You're serving some somebody else's interest you're never serving your own interest because you're serving your own interest

You're probably doing what Steve's doing. You're going out you're hunting your own interests, because you're serving your own interests. You're probably doing what Steve's doing. You're going out, you're hunting your own food, you're cooking for your family, you're taking care of it. It seems good and theory, but at the end of the day, it's still just a job, no disrespect, but it's still a job at this point. You know what I mean? I talked to my friend. Yeah, the true, but I mean,

if your cake came at you and said, I wanna serve, and you could tell that was that passion. Like you have to have people join the military to make your country work. Imagine if everybody thought like that all, you get into some elitist position and you're like, well, I mean other people will fight. That's only a human thing. That's not cool. That's only a human thing. I mean, think about animals. They, yes, there's a circle of life, but there's never like all these animals are going to team up against all these animals. So like, I just need to eat today. But we have like a premeditated

thought of domination as humans and the military. Well, we have to protect too. I mean, you can't not have an army ever. If you have a nation, you can't not have an army. Unless you're Switzerland or whatever. I mean, yeah, they're doing all right. I really like what he was talking about with the denim jeans thing. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. Like collecting the jeans. Well, you know what's interesting about that? So he was talking about his friend when he got a given a Subaru or so. Yeah, he did a book and his wife kept the Subaru after the fact.

Yeah, she likes it. But like he would go around with this guy and they would go to these old ranches and find all these like Levi jeans from like, you know, 18, 19 months later. Send the mines to the century way back. Yeah, yeah. And it was worth a shit ton of money like 30, 40,000 dollars.

Well, what it made me think of is I just spend the weekend in Cleveland with a body of mine that I've known for 20 years. And this guy collects old VHS tapes that are sealed so like never opened first editions of like predator, aliens, Terminator, Indiana Jones, blah blah blah. He has a mall on his like ping pong table in his house. And I'm like, what are you doing with these nerd? And he's like, these are worth,

you know, that's worth 10 grand, that's worth 15,000. And then he also collects video games from like, but it's just it is amazing to me and super interesting that like, there's these things that are like collectibles. And you know, maybe if you're not interested in Levi jeans or video games or VHSs, you'd be like, what's the point of that? But like, you can kind of understand the nostalgia to. 100% I mean, that's. It's almost like a work of art in its own right.

Right. Like an untouched, really old, perfect condition thing. And you're like, no one else has. So it's a piece of history, a piece of history, right? I, I started, I think I started looking at things like that. You've met and you've made mention of that before. And I think that's how Gary Vee, I don't know if you guys are familiar with him, but he's like a motivational speaker and all the wine guy.

Yeah, he started with wine and he worked for his company, whatever, but he always talks about how he would go garage sale hunting and find stuff like that. And then posted, I look at stuff like that all the time. It's like, I found this cool bag last night. Actually, I mean, granite here in LA some people's trash is like people are always moving out so they just go put stuff by the trash is probably some good shit you know what I mean I found a really nice bag out there that was like I don't know what you would use it for look take it almost like it's something you could take it for like a six month sabbatical and pack up

it was huge but it was like I'm like oh no we're gonna be dumpstered divers is I mean I don't know man I'm not saying dumps the divers, but I... The rough shop guys. My brother used to sit on that note. My brother used to go into like, savers or whatever and take pictures of stuff that was there and then post it on like, Craigslist or Facebook market or whatever

and then sell stuff that wasn't even his. So it's kind of brilliant. And then go back and buy it. That's the good. You know what I mean? I was And then go back and buy it. That's pretty good. Oh, no, I mean, it was pretty good. Go back and get it. Hope nobody bulls. Pretty good hustle.

Shit, somebody bulls. We actually had that happen one time. This lady bought a couch and I'm never forget. We went and picked it up. We knew we were going to make an X amount of dollars up. And then we were driving that freeway. Unfortunately, it didn't hurt anybody. But half the couch flew off the back of the truck.

Thank God. Thank God. Thank God, we called A-Dot and they called the hustle. The hustle is real. We showed up to the lady's house. We're like, you want to just do it for this price and she's like, nah, I kind of wanted the whole couch and we're like, all right, that makes sense. So that was a, I had to take a loss on that one, but it was an interesting little hustle. That's great.

Well, let's head on on Steve and Ella. I mean, what's interesting about listening to him, you know, for many of the people that I know here, I mean, well, I say money like three or four of the people that came to Bozeman that I know, including me, it's partly because of this guy. So it's really interesting here. And I and I own a lot for that because you know he worked with Dan Doty who worked on me Tita who also came on Rogan and then talked about the men's group things and you know the special forces guy that we had on a few weeks ago

talking about his Iawaska adventure. I. I mean, it's all through these guys. Right. So it's really cool, you know, to hear their story and have them back on for that reason. Absolutely. You live in there, it's going to give me out there. I definitely want to see it. I spent some time in New Hampshire,

which is a lot different, but I appreciate that. You snowboard, right? I see, yeah, I see. Yeah, but I can't snowboard, but yeah, we should do that Come out this winter do some is absolutely we'll see how L.A. Pans out here shortly Yeah, good luck without all right jumping over to like Josh Dubin and Robert Jones You know these this innocence project stuff thank god, thank these guys. It really like thank God Joe has them on I'm so glad that he had him back on he said that he was gonna do it like every month or so and I think it's berlin that he does it it's so

Disheartening it's so disheartening here how fucked up our legal system It's so good that it's being exposed because I don't know like what other platform that it's gonna be exposed at this level like it's so good that it's being exposed because I don't know like what other platform that's gonna be exposed at this level Like it's so it's so yeah, I mean this has been happening for since the beginning of time just like bullshit You know I mean legal like just the fact that I mean look you can't be right a hundred percent of the time But the way it's set up to where even the prosecution, like look, if somebody went to jail that was innocent, but the prosecution was sure that they were guilty and the defense just couldn't figure out a good way and they exhausted all of everything they could do with DNA and the rest of it. I mean, yes, it's still sucks. It's always going to suck that someone innocent goes to jail.

But the fact that we have a system where the prosecution can know that you're guilty and they hide it, those people should go to jail. Joe is right. They should fucking go to jail. 100%. It's crazy. It's crazy that it's set up. And if you're marginalized or you're in a low-income bracket,

you're automatically starting out with two steps back to, you know, public. Oh, that Robert Jones guy, like, listen to his life, man. What chance did he get faced with those jobs? 26 years, man. Thank God that he was so smart that he went and figured it out for himself. Like, God bless him. And you can hear in his voice, like how calm he is, and how he just kind of holds things to get it.

Like, that's the shit that will stop you going off the rest because he was able to stand up from self inside but also do the right thing when it came to his own defense. Yeah, it's like that would make you insane. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what you do other than push-ups and read books if you're trying to get better. You know what I mean? I took 26 years of your life just ripped out from underneath you. Yeah, that poor fucking guy. What they give him? Two million dollars? I mean, I've told that story to multiple people and they're like, well, how much did he get?

I mean, I've told that story to multiple people and they're like, well, how much did he get and I can't I Said I said I thought he said it was like 25k And that's what it was like in New Orleans. Oh, no, no, that was the maximum In certain states they were saying but but I think 2 million Over 20 years is like 80,000. I mean I've you'd yeah if you told if you if you told me you'd give me, I'm trying to think what number would have to be even to spend a year in jail. I mean, I might think about dude a million dollars.

I'm million dollars a year. I was you're in jail. That was the number that came to mind. What was the number that came to mind immediately when I'm writing this thought of that? So that I think that's right. The ballpark. Yeah. I mean, if they, you know, so that I think that's right, the ballpark. Yeah. I mean, if they, you know, for them to say,

oh, we did our best. And then it turns out the prosecution knew and they were hiding it, like, fuck that. It's just weird that that should be a lot of money. Okay, let's go ahead and side piece that with what's kind of want to bring up the other stuff that's going on right now with COVID. But if we comes to light that all these people are in cahoots, which it will eventually

all these people deserve to go to jail to am I wrong? All these politicians that are lobbying for this bullshit stuff and they are all knowing it. It's all optics. It's all optics. That's what it come down to at this point. It's all what we all it's all perception. And once they find out and that gets exposed Somebody's well it sounds like to me Gavin Newsom is a crew. Oh without a doubt I mean the fact that he closed all the wineries except his own figure took multiple house donations Like house donations who donates a house and then he takes mortgages out on it and then closes everything and makes everyone unemployed.

I mean you like that to me seems good. You've cut you legitimately I don't want to say killed people but you've killed people and whichever way you want to slice it. Some way when one way or another you have been the root of people's demise here in LA and you have been the reason. Well there's probably some suicides. I mean, there on the rise. 100%. I mean, I remember that when we're having that conversation, it's like, to cause all these businesses to shut down, I'm really curious to see how this, this, uh, Vax mandate is going to go down.

I've talked to a few people in New York. They said that like three out of five businesses have been like requesting it, but I can't imagine that these small businesses are going to turn away money. They've already been suffering for so long. You mean to tell me that people are going to walk up and you're going to say, I need to see your card. I mean to say, oh, you don't have your card. Your money is no good here.

Oh, I know my business has been suffering for the past two years, year and a half, whatever. No, we don't need your money. We're just going to go ahead and comply with everything. I mean, at some point in time, guys, we got to stand together like I was trying. I just keep on thinking, please reach out. I think that we need to start having, we always have had to have the conversation, but what makes the most sense and how can we make steps in the future to not let this happen again and

how do we rectify this situation as opposed to just going along with the flow. Yeah, I mean, look, it's a week after we review always, but we have that doctor from CNN on next week, well, this week technically, but we review it next week and it's about CNN and I've remectored and the shit that Joe had to put up with. I don't know if you... And I'll be finished. Well, but I just mean, you know, and then there's all that shit on YouTube, Facebook, about, you know, if you even mention lab theory, like you're crazy and you hate Chinese people it's like whoa whoa and now we see that that's where it's going my my aunt it's a little frustrating my aunt like that's fucking posted something on Facebook and I've never seen

her I mean she does it rarely but she she put what did it say how like a magnifying glass it was just like a meme it said stand alone if you have to or something like that in Facebook wrote sensitive, I had to press, look at the picture. They called that sensitive comment. It just had a magnifying glass and said, stand alone if you have to. Something of that effect, like just a poster or something. So, so general, so whatever, but Facebook. What does sensitive comment mean? It means it means they got flat. Yeah, I must have because it means you have to press another button to see the picture that they put up.

You know what I mean? You know how it says sensitive content sometimes on Instagram or whatever. That that was qualified as sensitive content. And I was just like dude, how dare you think as an individual? Don't do that. Oh, what are you thinking? I was I wanted to mention to you you to I was in Vegas for the weekend And we had I don't know if you heard about this Southwest situation

But we're oh, yeah, it was fucked up. Oh, we were flying out of Vegas And we I felt like it was the same kind of situation I felt I had the same feeling going through that that I had when COVID went on because now you legitimately have no idea What to believe in the news. At all. That's the only thing you can do. So at first take, we're checking our flight and we're supposed to fly out at 11 a.m. couldn't get out. And then I'm thinking we're in a good spot and I'm very fortunate to have being a good spot. Healthy body, healthy mind, have a good girl, good family, if anything, where to happen. I got you, I got good friends. But I'm thinking to myself how many people that affected, but I don't know if you heard the narrative

and I'm sure it'll come out eventually, but they tried. They tried to say the FAA tried to say that it was because of air traffic stuff or the weather, meanwhile it's. Oh yeah, yeah. And then you did and then it started to come unfold. Well, because then the airline don't have to pay for the fault. Right. but then it unfold will get you a hotel unfolded that it wasn't any of that. It was all the people that are not this is what's going to start unfolding that people are going to start coming together that aren't going to want to get vaccines. I mean Kyrie Irving, I don't know if you do not know that is he just stopped playing basketball and is getting ridiculed for not wanting the vaccine. It's so crazy. How another person can have such a dignified and like opinion on what somebody else is doing.

I don't understand. It's like, it's a mind blow. But what I was going to tell you about that was that the thing about that is, is all the bunch of pilots got together that weren't Vax and don't want to get Vax for Southwest, and they all called in sick on the same day. That's the story that's not being publicized. So they didn't have pilots to fly the planes. So they didn't so they made it that that it was the weather. I'll put that in air quotes. So they didn't have to pay out the flights. Meanwhile, we just received vouchers for money and we're typing up. We didn't we ended up having to take a bus. My girl had had an interview and had a bunch of important meetings on Monday that she had to get

back for. So it wasn't like we'd stay one more night but that would have meant we had to buy one more night. Long story short, we ended up taking a bus from Las Vegas at 11 p.m. to arrive at LA at 5.30 a.m. and we had to pay for it out of our pockets. Why would they not, can you fly with another hell? No, I mean all the flights were booked up because everybody that was just chewing a month right out the gate because they were all- Oh yeah, and I mean-

And it's like, I really hope Southwest gets exposed. I really hope the school system start to get exposed. I really start to hope that the healthcare starts to get exposed. Because if you're going to start firing people for not- I mean, I'm not going to- I'm not going to continue working if you're going to try and tell me that I have to do that. I'm telling that point blank right now.

Because we don't know the future consequences of what these vaccines are going to do. And the confidence that so many people have after what the government's already done and all the lies that's already been told, I don't know how these are not read flags to more people. I don't understand. It's so. Yeah, but look, I want people to have that like, you shouldn't be forced to take it. I believe that. But you're not going to get, as far as I can tell, you're not going to get sick if you

take this. Yeah. One of my best friends, one of my best-guy friends, had the vaccine called me yesterday, sick as a dog. He goes, I got COVID again. He's had the vaccine because he wanted to go to Australia to see his kid. He died texting him today just to check up on him.

I'm like, oh, that's true. My buddy just got married. He had everyone at the wedding vaccinated. Like he insisted on it because his grandparents were coming out and they're real old. They're like in the 90s. So I think that's a smart move. Like if you don't want your 90 year old grandparents to die. And then he went to Chicago the next week, got COVID was sick as a dog.

Like so sick. So I'm like, oh, okay. Well, I guess he did his best, but also it makes you think like Joe's been beaten to dead horse. He told him, Joe's been beaten a dead horse the whole time. He's like Take care of your body has Joe Biden no, he's been beating a dead bulls Figuratively or metaphorically, but how is it we're here this far removed and still not once has any Politicians stood up and said hey go take care of yourself, eat good, cut sugar out,

exercise regularly. Yeah. Keeps none of those things, none. Just basic. Well, but I mean, this almost comes back to the, to just you've been this whole thing. It's like, it's a win or lose game that they've set up. And I mean, maybe that is the best way that we can do it right now is like win

lose rather than what's best for everyone. I don't know. But it's like, yeah, we put these people to jail. We you got to do this with the vaccine. I don't know. Just a quick question. At what point in time did you ever have a full confidence in big pharma?

Well, yeah, basically never, never, never once. I mean, and I'm fortunate that I've been fairly healthy, but I had opened our surgery when I was 18 months old. But I don't go to the doctor. I feel like they're in the business of making people sick so they can make them better. It's called, that's the business. I hate to say that, but that's part of the doctor. I feel like they're in the business of making people sick so they can make them better. It's called that's the business. I hate to say that but that's part of the deal. And the idea that the idea about these booster shots nobody was talking about booster shots. That seems like another way they're like now we can make more money here.

Make more money here. Make more money here. Go figure. Was there any talk of anything that was even remotely close to a booster shot six months ago, a year ago? Nobody mentioned that. The idea and the narrative was you get the vaccine and you move on. And you beat the virus and everybody moves on, we flatten the curve. That narrative has changed. Yet again, I don't know how people aren't seeing this. I don't get it. It bothers me. It's like, it's clear as day. It's clear as day. I'm not anti, I'm not pro. Do whatever you want to do.

But the fact that it's such a polarizing thing, I wrote something, there was like a sanitizer thing at the airport that it was just called kill. That was the name of the sanitizer and it said 99.9%. And I posted it on Instagram and I wrote, I wrote, wake up folks. That's all I I wrote and I had somebody reach out to me, DM me and be like, so are you an anti? Da da da da da da, she's like my grandma just died, this died, this died.

I go listen, both my parents died when I was 22, okay? I have everything, I have nothing but love for you and your family. But this idea that this is such a polarizing topic that's gonna divide us, it needs to unify us, not divide us. We need to be stand together because they're painting this picture that's picking the winner-lose situation, right?

Just how you just decided it. Yeah, I mean, if we get a pick a team, it should be us versus the disease. Not half of us versus half of us plus the disease right not half of us Right half of us plus the disease and it's like it's be like we're making more enemies than necessary, and it's like you're it's like I'm feeling bad for not doing so I'm for not getting a jab of a disease people do you think you're an anti-vax? That's fine. I'm not anti we get we get we get we get reviews I'm fine. I mean you can call me whatever you want. I'm not gonna call you anything I don't I literally don't care if you wear a dress on your head

I got not below for you. That's why we live here in America. That's the idea That was I don't think anyone wears a dress on there. Well, that's what I'm saying where would they die? I'm just saying We're wearing masks on we're wearing masks on our face. So I mean you do whatever you want to do. I'm just saying it's I just raised the block. I just don't understand how this this This issue has divided us so much. It's so disappointing It's like if you're not doing this and it's almost like you've heard about these people getting tattoos of like Pfizer tattoos and stuff and like I'm just like keep keep ranting. I'm gonna. I just keep going I just one way or the other it seems seems like it's got, I keep saying this,

it's time for a revolution guys. Like it really is, and I don't mean pick up the guns and go to the courthouse or whatever they did on January 6th. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that it is easy to be a more constructive thought process and a more well thought out thing. And why are we not allowed to question? It was what I don't understand.

Why is questioning authority ever been a thing? And now it's so polarizing that if you question the narrative, you're some kind of fucking asshole. And the thing was, it's been the thing we're never know about, COVID, is because only reason we're going through this is because everybody hated Trump so much that it didn't literally matter anything else. We just wanted this guy out, anything else. If he started talking about it coming out of a place that studied COVID diseases in a place, were you, were you a Trump guy? No, but the point is not, not at all, not at all. But at the same time, now that's, I can tell you right now, I'm not a,

a Joe Biden guy. I'm not a, I'm not a Joe Biden guy. I'm not a Trump guy. I'm not a anybody in, in, yeah, I'm not, I'm not a huge item guy. I'm not a Trump guy. I'm not a anybody in Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of either People to be honest. I Just controversial on itself right because when you're saying neither of them and you know, you know It seems like Trump was Joe Biden seemed way more competent when he was Vice President I don't remember him even be a competent, but either way. I, yeah, well, he didn't he sounded more lucid

That's the president of our United States guys. That's the guy. I Mean, huh? That's where we go. We support our president. It's like Maybe this should be a time. Well, you know, there is a part of that, you know, that I always feel, I don't know why the people think, but like once someone wins, there is a bit of me that's like, all right, that's the president, let's go with it, because it's not gonna change.

And so let's hope that he does good and kind of sound that, and it sounds a bit naive, I think, but with every one of them, like even when Trump got in, I was like, oh shit, this guy, but with every one of them, like even when Trump got in, I was like, oh, shit, this guy's just kind of like, all right, well, hopefully, uh, that was okay, because we can't change it. So Trump got to go to give him a bit of a. From an optics standpoint, and from people on the outside looking in, yeah, it was a,

it was a rough point to be in to have that guy representing us, but at the same point, now having this guy, as our country's looking in on him, it's like, what do we choose? Do we choose the lesser of the two evils? I don't necessarily know. I don't know. Everything's speculation at this point, because you can't look back and wonder,

because we've made our decision and we're moving on. But to have that much confidence in the government right now is like, I mean, I think that has completely deteriorated I never thought it was really there for me but the fact that I think it's just because if you can't believe in it and then it kind of just dissipates your whole thought process and it's it's a hollowing feeling because that's why I know I mean I remember our preacher at church would be like I'm not really religious on the spiritual guide, but he goes, I remember, I'll never forget this, he said, he goes just in case, he goes,

even if there's not a God, isn't a good to live like there is one, and I was like, hmm, that seems reasonable. That seems like if everybody thought that same way, then we might be able to, everybody might be a little bit better than to one another, right? I like that would be the idea you wouldn't just be braping and pillaging because you'd be

thinking that you have some kind of end game. Somebody's looking down on you so you should make some good decisions. At this point, the government has taken the air out of everything. I don't believe anything. It seems all money. It's like, I just want to follow the money. It seems like that's always been what it's about. I mean, if history's proven anything anything it's always about. But the

thing is is I was thinking about this too. It's like who's going to stand up and change something and how do we go about it? Because what if Malcolm X was quiet? What if Martin Luther King was quiet? What if JFK was quiet? What if Abe Lincoln was quiet? What if all these people was? Yeah I mean a lot of what every all those people were talking about was free. Right. Right. So I was that gone lost. I guess you could say whatever about, you know, it like it was weird when I first moved to the US. It was 97. And like the US has, um, freedom of speech. And then they would still even then let Nazi's march which coming from England I was like that's crazy like why would you let them do that it's insane but then when I

get here and I'm not saying their message is not insane I think that it is like fuck them right clearly but also there is a part of what and Joe says this a lot. It's like even even the wrong thought is Okay In in a way because because all the people can see that it's wrong Over time and like we're human beings like we have have like, I don't know if you think that we're born understanding in the sense of like what's right and wrong or you know good or bad or the rest of it. But if if you require everybody to speak in a certain way, who's even thinking? And then who is making those decisions, right? It's a beautiful thought to think that,

oh, well, we just keep suppressing speech. And over time, we're gonna figure out what the most perfect speech is, and that's the only way everyone speaks. Dude, that would be great. Now it makes sense if I believed that it would exist. When he makes mention of that. But it won't exist like that.

It'd be dictatorships with, with like controlled speech. Not, not with neural link. It's going to get up with neural link. You're not going to know the lie. That's going to be, if that's, Elon Musk might be saying, look, there's a reason that guy is the richest guy in the world. And do you really think that he just goes into his projects and he's like this is the most profitable thing? I don't think so. I don't think so at all. You watch the videos him online. He's like I'm gonna be bankrupt this year. I think he has humanity in his mind like I really do. I don't think that money is I think money is like a driving force for him Especially like he's well thought probably it shouldn't be when you're the richest like you already won you won the game You see the post he had with Jeff Bezos, so Dude it was brutal. He was brutal, but you know, this is my theory right guys

This is my theory with Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. I think that they actually are friends I think they text each other because like once you're at the top like the pinnacle of that kind of money like Who do you have to hang out? right so I think So yeah, right so So Bezos put a thing on Line did just said about like how people thought his company was gonna fail and like the 90s and now it's one of the biggest ones in the world And Elon Musk just put a second place medal as a comment right now to everyone in

regular life which is us the regos you might think well okay that's just that's brutal hilarious but I've got a feeling that that Elon followed that up with attacks the Bayzo's like you know I'm kidding right and they're like this is one guess like they're always going back and forth like They always take the top spots from each other. I don't really believe that they fight like that Do you think Bayzo's in like I think that they haven't a good time. They probably know each other well They probably have Martinez together. Do you think those guys have to cruise around with bodyguards? What do you think happens to their cruising? Well, fun story right before the pandemic in March, my roommate and I saw Jeff

Bezos in Santa Monica. He was like six feet from it. And he was going in this little coffee shop in Santa Monica, near Holy guacamole, which is a great barito play shout out to them. And he walked past and as he was walking past I turned to my room and I was like that fucking guy looks like Jeff Bezos. But then when I turned around and I saw on like the corner of each street like down the block and like just like in opposite directions of him The the fucking most dangerous look in dudes in suits and they weren't like shak-size guys

They were just like kill you know that they were like 1,000% X special forces they had the little earpiece they were chatting and And once I saw them it ruined the joke I wanted to throw out because once I realized there was him he's there with his new girlfriend is that the Asian One that he's dating after his last wife. She's very pretty But I wanted to be like hey Jeff. Where's my book? My book's late. I just wanted to shout that I just thought that would be funny But once you see those guys I thought it's probably not appropriate Because I'm not shiny well because they're trying to keep a low profile and all he wants to do is get coffee bro

Just the fact that he's like just doing no, but you got I didn't want to be you got to imagine that people in like China Or I don't know Chinese Russian whoever if they're making bots They probably got some people on this side that are keeping their eyes on those guys that are in that much power too, you know. Oh, dude, they are watching them for sure. Well, look at what Elon does with crypto. He controls it with his tweets. Right.

I mean, fucking crazy. Is that the wave of the future? This is that's the tweets. That's it. Alright, let's jump over to Jessica Kus. She is hilarious. I've seen her perform before. She's very, very funny. Guys, she's so funny.

You gotta watch her. She's just... She's an animal. So quick. She's like a... So quick, what did that's for sure? Dude. Yeah, she's like a Jewish mother.

They just... It like has all of that. And it's just so funny. She's like literally a lot She's absolutely brilliant. I'm so glad that her and Joe are good friends You could tell during that podcast that they are really tight like they have a lot of respect for each other She said that even Joe sort like Joe said that he sort her like when and founder and She was very happy that he like you know didn't act like a big celebrity yet but that's not really Joe's style but yeah but beautiful like and he has so much respect for her and her comedy and she's very there's pretty much nothing off

the limits for her to talk about either there's a handful of people that have that like I was just listening to her, like they were talking about. I don't know if you've seen Dave's new stand up. But oh boy, it's amazing. Oh, Dave, it's brilliant. It's brilliant. But Dave Chappelle's new stand up is brilliant.

So, so it's so good. It is interesting how it's kind of shifted, I will say. It's still extremely funny, but it's almost, like he's speaking for a generation kind of. It feels like he's starting to make like speed. You know what I mean? Like he's making speeches. Yeah. It's making speeches that, I mean, he's talking about social issues. That's what comedians do always, but he's doing it in a way that's like,

hopefully starting to change the thought process about the woke culture because he can relate to the younger people and the older people because he is an older guy. So it's like, I hope this. Well, they're basically hilarious Ted Talk. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. That's a good way to put it for sure. Yeah, but that's how a lot of the top comedians do it really is. Bill Burr, yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but I mean, there's these trans People that are upset the work for Netflix that are getting frustrated and like other people want to cancel him It's like listen Look we've tried this okay, and I mean not we Comedy central did this and this is why we didn't get season three of the greatest Get show ever now he can yeah I mean I really could but you know it's not like he just does he doesn't just come out on these like a really ugly rants where that are you always ties it back you know you always ties it back and even when he's making the jokes, like he really respected the trans person that

opened up for him that he got out there, that was brand new to comedy. Brand new. So of course they're gonna bomb. You open up for Dave Chappelle for 45 minutes and you're brand new, but you know what? She did it. Like a boss. I love that. God bless her.

And then she sat in the crowd and crushed it and they would but there was also these moments that were so powerful yeah you may he's like he made that one joke I can't remember oh not to spoil our alert I'll just I'll just say the punchline she's like the floors are hardwood and he's like that 45 minutes of bombing just was rebounded and floors are hardwood and he's like that 45 minutes of bombing Just was rebounded and one fucking swift joke and it's like that and I know what he's talking about like you can You could make up for it, you know But but one thing that I have to say about her and like what she pal

Pointed out. He's like if you open for somebody and you bombed hot you're gonna go home and He's like if you open for somebody and you bomb the hot you're gonna go home and Crying your cereal and be really upset like that's the most brutal day even though it's a real privilege to open for Dave Like it's still gonna be painful the fact that she sat front row And still dish in it out laughing I'm just like Steve said you so proud of her She'll hold shit and she's still fucking hung out right. Yeah So good. Yeah, so good. And then you've got this lady Just she just recently came out like has the same energy just recently came out gay too. Is that correct?

But I did I hear that correctly? I don't know if it's recent, but she said she was yeah, but she spent the vast majority of her life She's got kids and stuff not like not that so it's like she's she's got she gets all the cards at this point Yeah, what they talked about praying the gay way stuff for a while Like I was pre-tune I showed that video. It's just like come on. I was what are ridiculous? We're in the elevator and I was showing that to my aunt. Why there's other people in the elevator And I'm just laughing my ass off of it's like this is so unreal Like what are they thinking like when Joe played that one video and the guy was like hump in the dude from behind The best thing is when you hear that those mega church guys Get caught like in these hotel

rooms with ramp boys. Something weird. Those mega church guys, they have like forrari's and like John Joel is fucking multi multi multi multi millionaire Yeah, yeah, what do you think Jesus would say about WW JD the poorest guy who would walk around and wash people's feet? Yeah, yeah, don't be tough made a point to go say I am the less like the lesser of all of us like I I'm here to serve that that like that's that's what. That's what religion has been built on service to the people Which is again taking a turn for capitalism somehow. I don't mean It's not well, but it's a good message, right? I mean if more people like that

I think more people would be Christian, right? Because you'd be like oh that is actually really that was my thought process when I was growing up Well, what didn't Joe say that 19 of the top 20 Christian websites around like foreign troll farms? Like what? Now, now you got a wonder, right? Like think of Q and on and then, you know, the, the, like religious people that follow these things. It's like, are they just picking on people that are, and I hate to say it, but like, maybe the most gullible.

Like, they're just being like, okay, this is the best way to like really, but 19 out of 20. How do they, how do the people that follow this shit? Not. not see the most goblers the most scared I mean it's probably a combo of both but it's like I don't know I was a huge Christian guy for the longest time and I mean I I still see a lot of value in religion to be honest with you but it seems vain to think that one's better than the other that's what's crazy is to be like I'm this and you're that and I'm a Jew and I'm a Christian and you're it's like well but if you're a religious person what do you think do you think that all the people go to hell no no I don't personally think that I I mean I don't really but you believe in God I do believe in God but I believe in God do you

believe in Jesus Christ I don't believe in a human person I think that's vain I believe in I'm that's the thing is I believe in, I am to lean towards anything. I think I would be a Buddhist. I believe that ultimately in the books that I read, it always comes down to how may I serve. That needs to be the narrative for politicians, religious leaders. Anyone in a place of power should be how do I serve and how do I lead from a place of service. Because that's what Steve Rinello was talking about, too. He's like, I don't have that manager personality trait, which is fucking valuable. Because he not acting like you're more important than somebody else. Because you see the end game and you see how valuable people are.

That shouldn't be the nith. Yeah, that's why I barely give you a hard time about playing ice-classes around. I'm trying to make a phone. Trying to make adjustments. Yes. Fuck it up the audio. Trying to make adjustments here. Because I'm a bad manager at Garrett. That's what I'm saying. I'm a bad man. We're working through it. We're working through it. We're working through it. Yeah. All right. Well, that's it. I didn't know you were that like I guess you know is that religious or spiritual or is that

just how do you? I mean I can I can tell you that and is that religious or spiritual or is that just how do you? I mean, I can I can tell you that and I don't know if you've gotten to that book that I told you about the secrets and manifesting, but it's like I literally go I know I said I would listen to that and I didn't. I was catching up on road cards, but I will. He's like, he tells the story in the book about how he's out and he's always doing these motivational things and I was absolutely into it. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will. But I will What can I do for you? And she's like, nothing leave me alone. This is not the other. He's like, he pulls out a hundred dollar bill out of his pocket and he hands it to her and all the people all of us, like posse that are with him.

They're like, you know, she's going to buy drugs with that. And he goes, when I give, I give it my heart. And he goes, I hope you just give with your heart and leave it there because it's a message of service. What happens with the money is not none of my business. He goes, it's a message of service. And now even, I'm sure you've had this moment too, that I get sucks to be especially hearing, I'll lay with so many homeless people. It's like you, it's just a testament, you kind of resent them in some extent, but I will say that I don't go, I don't go through that process anymore.

Anytime I see somebody hurt and the only thing that goes through my mind is God be with them. That's all I say. It's God be with them. I don't want to judge them. I don't want to, I don't know where they're at in their life. What put them there? But who am I to judge? Yeah, I hope they're doing well.

I wish they could do better. I mean, if they try to attack me, I'm not cold. It's going to be an issue, but like, yeah, I don't like it. I had a, I was down in the court, I was down in the Venice courts yesterday, and I'm playing basketball like four or five dudes. And a guy who was clearly in his own world was standing about six feet away from my dog.

And my dog is just viciously barking at him and barking and barking and barking and barking. I'm still playing hoops and I know it's annoying people and I'm like trying to be patient but this guy is just standing there and I go walk around and he's fucking pulling something out of his arm. I can only assume and I'm like keep it moving bud because I definitely didn't want to touch the dude and I didn't want to hurt the guy but it definitely put him oh you thought he was going to hurt your dog. He wasn't going to do anything to my dog but he was definitely just standing there

staring at her and I was like what do we have an issue here but like you don't you sound aggressive bro. Me or him. No I asked everybody I was playing ball with it I don't even know these guys I go I go I was I patient there they're going unbelievably patient and I was like all right cool I just want to make sure because I was about to go have some words But why did you say keep it moving if you didn't think he was gonna hurt you or your Because she just wouldn't do it. I don't know. He was a stand-in there staring at Ruka like and she did I'm pretty sure my dog has a pretty good judge a character like she doesn't bark at anybody if you just a You know what I mean like Like it. All right.

Yeah. She knows good. I see these good people. And she was like, this doesn't seem right. And I'm like, all right. Well, that doesn't seem right to you. Then I'm on your team. So.

I'm with you. I'm with you. It's all about that, but it's all. What do you think of the last bit that they went over with the people going bold? Ah, putting the dead dead tattoos on their head. I've had some buddies invest, I don't know if I told you, I had a buddy invest nine grand and to get into new hair.

Fortunately, you and I both, $9,000, how do you look? I mean, now it looks okay, but like some of these guys are like, you've got like, Joe talks about it, they make that incision in the back of their head and then put that hair on the top. I don't know the whole process, but it sounds first one, one painful stress. It seems stressful, man.

I mean, you brothers go in a bit bold. That's pretty stressing them out. I mean, you have a good head ahead of you. I'm fortunate. I think it has a lot to do with stress management, but like, I don't know, whatever makes you happy. Well, genetics, too. Yeah, that's a good to do with it.

But, yeah. I mean, everybody else in my family knockout was fairly bald too. So I don't know. I was fortunate in that realm. But I mean, do you think he stresses your bro out? I don't think so. He's married. He's about to have a kid.

Luckily he's a handsome man. He just shaved his head. That's what I, he's still hanging on. But I mean, I don't know. He's hanging shaming his head. That's what I, he's still, he's still hanging on. But I mean, I don't know, he's hanging on, yeah. He's like, oh, Joe, Joe makes it sound like liberating. It's not, he's like, I don't know why I was still trying to do that. Once I just cut it off, now I'm like, I think if I was in that scenario, I mean, I'd probably just throw the towel and, I mean,

well, but you know, he's been married. Like, I think if you're not in the dating world, world Like maybe like once you're married and you're fucking rich is Fuck who gets shit everyone shows my brothers and married Is that why Bezos? Yeah, so he could just shave Bezos. Oh, yeah, I'm trying to think but but like I get it I get the people are like stressed about going bold like you're a man and you're and you're like your hair Roll falls out like that's gotta be you're gonna have and you're like your hair roll falls out like that's got to be it's got to be some work right you that a lot of guys from a vanity standpoint if

you ask them would you rather have a full head of hair perfect sight and not have to wear glasses to read they probably choose a full head of hair oh they take care yeah you can get glasses you look cool clock can't you look cool, clock cat. You look cool with glasses. But I mean tattooing your head seems unusual. Yeah. But you're going to go close and realize there's no hair. They just have a painted head. Speaking of, I got to say.

How is that going to work? I'm so intrigued by face tattoos. You'll see me just thumbing through Google images. Like, that's probably one of my most searched things. You're gonna get one. But I think that it's like, I'm always like, if all the people I know, they would get one.

I've thought about it. He would. I'm surprised you don't have full sleeves. I'm surprised too. I mean, I just haven't had the time. I don't know. Like, I think there's something completely liberating in it. It says like, if you're in the place to be,

like I'm always like, I would love to just get a neck tattoo and a couple of hand tattoos because then I have to be successful. But a lot of the, but a lot of it. Yeah, I mean, you have to be making some money to do it because you're not getting a cool job out of that. I mean, other than Travis Barker and some fucking rock stars, that's the only like people that are able to do that

and still be like not working at Denny's, you know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know, I mean, I don't know I Don't know I mean and that's why I'm always intrigued you. I was in a denny's the other day and it was quite amazing I saw these people in there that were So the the girl and the guy were probably in the late forties and then it was an all the guy were probably in their late 40s. And then there was an older guy there who was like, I can't even tell, maybe 70, like all the people.

And they were talking like, they were 15. Ha, ha, ha. Give me an example, give me an example. Yeah, five o'clock in the morning. Like, I don't know if they've been up all night, but yeah, they just, like it's example. Give me an example. Yeah, like five o'clock in the morning. Give me an example. Like, I don't know if they've been up all night, but yeah, they just, like, it's just tick-tocking. It's amazing how old some people can get and they still act like 15 year olds.

I mean, like, that brings back the Jordan Peterson stuff. It's like, Peter, Peter, what kind of responsibility, yeah, Peter Power, right? Neverland, like just ready to climb.land like just there's a ready to climb I mean there's a portion of me that feels that way, but I feel a certain responsibility to myself and my friends and my family that I Hope I'm not all the way there, but I mean there's still a child in me that I

Hopefully never goes way to be honest, but I I like I like that. I see that's okay's okay I see them but you can't you know you just can't be I don't know I mean what's the balance between fun and then you know like responsibility but also it has to be the key to life yeah something something all right guys well that's it for this week thank you so much for tuning in as always we appreciate it I'll give you some good ¿Tú verano cómo nunca antes? Disfruta del sol y de las playas de gran canaria con lo pesán. Solo tienes que elegir tu hotel favorito y dejarte llevar para que pases unas vacaciones inolvidables. Reserva ahora y consigue las mejores ofertas y condiciones con lo pesán y lo citravel.com.