Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 247 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Jewel Et al.

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

Sponsored by: BetterHelp This week we discuss Joe's podcast guests as always. Guest list: Jewel (this was one of my favorite podcasts of all time), Chuck Palahniuk and Rob Kearney 5% of ALL SPONSORSHIP proceeds goes to Justin Wren and his Fight for the Forgotten charity!! This commitment is for now and forever. They will ALWAYS get money as long as we run ads so we appreciate your support too as you listeners are the reason we can do this. Thanks! Stay safe.. Enjoy folks! Follow me on Instagram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Please email us here with any suggestions, comments and questions for future shows.. [e-mail] Follow Garrett on Instagram here: www.instagram.com/gloveone

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To be honest, maybe one of my favorites. What did you think of the jewel one? I mean, like we were saying, her upbringing, epic, right? Like completely epic. I didn't realize that was, it was like one of those national geographic explanations from firsthand

As a kid growing up and that Who would have thought the I mean, I don't know. I just I guess I just didn't know anything about Joel right like knowing that she grew up It's basic as you can imagine. I mean, what an experience that must have been and look at what it did and how. By basic. It shaped. By basic people, we mean probably the most

non-basic by L.A. standards possible. Like the most, you know what I mean? Like the most connected, I wouldn't say, but I agree with what you're saying. To be honest, it was one of the most fascinating JREs I'd ever heard. And I think Joe even said that at the end. He's like, this might be one of the best pods we've ever done. And I couldn't agree more.

Unbelievable. I definitely have a crush on that. But Joe, I was sure I was very involved in that one. Just just She's an artist away around it. Hmm. Her love. Yeah, I couldn't turn it off like usually Because you know when you listen to all of them and then you got a Review on the end of the week. I mean not got to we don't have to do this, but we like to you know know, it's like, you got to break it up through your day. And I would get home from whatever I was doing after listening to for a bit. And I just leave it on. Like I could not stop that one. It was just so

inspiring. Like, yeah. I mean, how many turns did it take? I just moved into San Diego. And then like, she's like, I was playing down in Cabo. I just moved into San Diego and then like she's like I was playing down in Cabo. I think she's like went to Mexico. It's just like that's the coolest story you could ever tell, right? It sounds like her family is definitely bad. Yes. All like even if she had her troubles with her dad and obviously her mom you know stole a lot of money which we'll get to but I mean they definitely stole a lot of money which we'll get to but I mean they definitely a tough people. She's a resilient as fuck. Right. That's about as resilient as a get. Right. How long did she say she lived in a car for homeless for a year?

I mean she's a talented, she's talented. Like it seems like it wouldn't, I don't want to say it wouldn't take long But she's distinct in her voice too, so it seemed like it wasn't just a matter of time But the way she described that it's like you gotta eat shit for a while I gotta eat some more shit because it seems like my last one kind of easy It's like sometimes you got it like I don't know Here in stories. Yeah, but gets easy. You definitely know here in stories like that. I need to shovel some more shit. It's like come on, but it's inspiring. It's inspiring the ear to that, you know what I mean? You know, it's nice for I think we all work towards it being easy. That's what everybody wants.

You want it to be comfortable and easy. I just don't know if there's much growth there. I think fingers don't change. It's just the, it's the same. I mean, I've definitely had periods of time where I felt, well, we were talking about it earlier, feeling like lucky, fortunate, having things kind of fall into place. And when you look at that time, even though it was fun, it, there wasn't a lot of change, you're like, you don't change anything. You're like, oh, this is just this is already just keep this all the same Yeah, I guess that she say her grandfather was a senator, right became a senator, right? That's pretty crazy. Yeah, and then they walked across

200 miles of What the way she told it was like, how was that even possible? The boys that she had with that story too. It wasn't like, I guess when you're going through that situation, I guess that kind of is a testimonial of life, but it's one of those situations. Well, it just becomes normal. Yeah, it's like more normal on that. When she told that story of her grandma killing the cat that ate all the cheese. It's like the cheese is gone. So let's kill the cat, get the cheese back out of its stomach, eat the cat. I'm like, wait, what? I mean, that makes sense, but I mean, I like cheese, but I guess that's all the cheese. Then maybe that's the way to do it. Unreal though.

then maybe that's the way to do it. Unreal though. Shhh. Too much. You know, and she does point that out, like I live in Bozeman, Montana. So people often talk about like the connection with the land growing up, you know, going hunting or camping and hiking in the mountains, like connecting with that land. And she kind of draws a lot from that. Absolutely.

With, in a way to suggest that there's strength in that, there's something that you get that kind of allows you to have a certain type of perspective. Right. I think that kind of coincides with the resilience thing too whenever you're putting on those circumstances where cold is an issue, but it's going to be an issue. You know what I mean? Especially for people that aren't accustomed to it. So I mean, living there and being a, you become accustomed to it, but... Yeah, I mean, maybe that's why depression is like she said, just off the charts right now and growing

rapidly, like rapidly every year, but definitely since the pandemic. I mean, you know, we are getting more disconnected in a sense, if you think about it, and especially from nature. Right. I just never thought about that in the terms of like, that connecting to nature is this super valuable thing. I mean, to be honest, I don't even really know what it means. It's like, what, get out in the mountains?

I mean, I'm a heavy kid of hiking. I know, be honest, I haven't done a lot of it out here. I find myself in the little gym atmosphere. I don't know, I transmit a lot of time outside, but I don't know. There's actually a lot of good hiking there, right? And you should do it. We're doing, we're headed to Arizona this next week.

Like I said, we're gonna do some hiking out there. I'm excited. But yeah, another spot shot here. That's good. Yeah, I mean, there's Rungyan Canyon. I think it's cold. That's good. Then there's Will Rogers Park,

kind of on the way to Malibu. That's a really nice spot. I think there's a certain value in that, especially like camping and whatnot. Like the way Joe describes something I was we we were talking about maybe doing a hunting trip, but I think there's got to be some value when you, when you're living off the land, this one, extend like kind of the survival man, like mindset kind of sets in a little bit, right? And then you, yeah, I can see some value.

It also sounds incredibly difficult. I mean, to be fair, like barely running water, like you're catching all of your food. I mean, talk about going to basics. Yeah, everything, you know, like every day is like a blessing. Yeah, you can feed yourself. You value everything. Well, what was crazy is when she talked about her dad going to Vietnam and that was actually the like the calmest he felt because his childhood was so crazy.

It's like what? How rough was your childhood? Hearing that statement was just like, I'm glad that's set in with you too because when I heard that, I was kind of set it back that, okay. Whenever you find peace in war, basically, that's it. Quand.

That's a quandary. Somebody said that. Yeah. Somebody, yeah. It's a strange one. It's unusual. You know, but then look at her life. So she leaves. I think her dad was kind of abusive. She left. She's at that point faced with either dealing with him or just going off on her own and making it work. So then she's stealing a lot.

Oh, I know that story was interesting. I was so transparent to I love to actually told that story. There was no, there was no hangups in the story. This is she was like, this is what I was going through. This is what happened and this is what made me. Yeah, she didn't make a lot of excuses. None of it. I mean, she said, look, I'm not proud of it.

But at the same time I had to do I appreciate that transparency in people like that's that there's a lot to be said I think that what you were talking about not one to turn it off when you hear that her voice You're like, oh, I can relate to that. I can understand that that makes sense because we all try and put on these like yeah, but At the same time, you know, then she wanted to kill herself. Yeah, I was just talking about. And then the really sad thing is, what was she 19? And she's saying that life is just long and it's going to be painful. Okay.

Like, that's a rough one to think about. Like, think of most people at 19. You've got the world's your oyster. You've got so much time ahead of you. You could be anything that you that you want to be like there's a lot of like built-in hope and you know she didn't get to have that true again she bounced back like a dang champion yeah I mean wish you raised that $10,000 to go to that school, which is pretty bad ass. Didn't know how anything worked. Had a knife on it. I like what?

Can't have a knife. I will. Kill a squirrel at the moment's notice. The story of her getting, like when her kidneys got bad. And then she went to the hospital. And the, like, they wouldn't help her there. And she was like, like, one or two days away from dying That's all to hear like thank God for that one doctor that saved her and like took care of her for a while

See I don't know guys. I was like moved by absolutely conversing for sure was like moved by absolutely a conversation for sure. It just seemed like it fell into place for us. You know, that rough shit had to happen and somehow, I mean, would I'm sure it helped us. You know what I mean? When I was just a songwriter, when she was talking about traveling up and down the coast

and she would just like sit down and write songs about like what was going on in the people she saw in the other songs, like that she would write about it it's like that's so awesome I'd I follow a couple of their like freestyle rappers on line that have done that and then a serum it's kind of fun it's it's like right in the moment and it was awesome hearing her say that because that was like that prequel to what I'm doing now but she would be sitting on a boardwalk, right in songs while people walking by. Her voice is so distinct. So I mean, it was just a matter of time. And like her ability is off the charts.

Well, what's brutal about that though is in a lot of ways it's the same as comedians. It's like for every one of these people that make it through. There's 99 untold stories that didn't end this way. You know, something happened. They didn't quite have the talent. They weren't able to keep working. And, you know, I mean, even her road, like in a sense, I guess she could say she was lucky. She starts knowing a few gigs.

People start following her. She starts to get Discovered and then all of a sudden someone offers her a million dollars. Anyway, it seemed like a that weird deal Like you got to pay it back or whatever like she so she knew she needed like stay away from it, but Even with all that going on, how difficult of a road. Well, I mean, did she face it? Staying away from drugs and alcohol probably put her on a good path. That was one thing that I didn't know in that whole process. She always said she stayed away from that.

It's fun. I imagine people in that predicament, a lot of them could turn to the substances, but she rebounded well. You know what I mean? Like, when she's stayed away from that because she knew that she had something that needed to be shared with the world and to be able to change. Yeah, that's probably the point when it goes really wrong. Right. Is like things are already bad and you maybe finding some sort of release, like some sort of coping mechanism in the drug use,

in not a healthy one, but one that allows you to forget and at least temporarily feel better. But that's when you can probably go off the rails really quickly. I mean, no doubt. Was it that she opened for Bob Dylan too? That was like the big breakthrough. Right. She was saying. Yeah. And then she kicked someone out of that show for talking. And Bob Dylan really liked it. I feel like I've seen Bob Dylan live when he was like 70. It was pretty interesting. It was a different experience. Really? That's it. He's a badass. He's badass. That's awesome. I should

did that though. That's a you can see a future star and so many that would do something like that. Yeah, that took confidence. That definitely took some confidence. But at the end of the day, it was just messing with a show. She just wanted to do a good show and people are like, whatever you're boring. And she said, get out. Oh, would you place? I mean, and then you hear all this, and we like what, like mostly halfway through the pod, at this point. And all of a sudden she brings, and you think,

well, your life must be great now. You like discover, you make it money, reconnect it with your mom. Like, how beautiful is all that? now you like discovered you make it money reconnected with your mom like how beautiful is all that and then her mom embezzles around a hundred million dollars from her what would that like what I mean it's fucked up to do it she's got to be a millionaire again now yeah I'm sure she's fine but it's let me see what her what they think her net worth is though this these websites are Yeah, probably still a lot. Oh, it's saying 14 million so she's not struggling

Jewels mom. I don't think that that's gonna be on Nah, she doesn't even know if her mom still has the money. Yeah, maybe her mom was being courish. Her mom couldn't have been that smart to do that. Yeah, who knows? Maybe she got in a bad, like in with bad people too, that like with milk and her for cash. I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure like, how do you spend 10 million a year? Well, that's a lot. Oh, you got what a horrible. I mean, the ultimate fear is the one that you love the most fuck you over. Like, that's the biggest nightmare. There's not a lot of money that could cure that one.

No, definitely not. You know, a lot of meditation. Well, she said she did those interesting things like she would. What would she do? Like instead of making a business plan, she made a happiness plan. Yeah. I felt what a great idea.

Like I think everyone should do that. It's, you know, I mean, to some people that sounds like woo woo, but it's I think that in order in order to experience the experience that comes from that, you have to try, you just have to try and then say that it was, but to just have like speculation. I don't know. I've tried some different things that I normally would have been very speculative of in the past and they've panned out. So you mean skeptical or what is it?

Speculative. Speculative. Okay. Well, yeah. Skeptical. Skeptical. Correct. But.

Just we just make a lot of great folks. Anyway, yeah, a hundred mills a tough a tough pill of swallow. Yeah, but she's still doing good. Like she has that. Is it it's not like a rehab place? No, she was to help out. Yeah, she was poor kids and

they're like good at times. She was like, she has some acronym for it. I can't remember what it was, but it was, it was, he was like, what is this? And he's like, oh, you're teaching kids new and upcoming. I don't want to say progressive because it just seems like logical all the things that she was describing at all made sense.

Yeah, it sounds like a cool place though, give for her. And like, she's raising money for it to like set up more things. He's like, when did you want to do this? And they seem to both agree with each other on how they saw L.A. Which is really no surprise coming from Jewel because you know, she seems very connected to like how she feels and what she's doing and you know, not the rag on LA But like there's a lot of people there that I guess pretend that that's how they feel, but you know

It's just climbing to the top of the social ladder. I love it And I get it. It's fun I get it. It's fun to do. Yeah, I mean. But eventually you're going to be like, all right, whatever. I mean, what was it? Joe said the Hunter S Thompson quote, LA is a graveyard of the future. LA is the graveyard of the future. Well, you know, I hope that's not true.

It was. I really did. I live by the beach boy. That's what LA. Yeah. You're an island boy. You're the beach boy. That's what I like. I don't know. Yeah, you're an island boy. So as soon as I saw those guys, I was like, yeah, Garrett could have won a very easily

become this person. You and your brother just island boy in a way. Oh, man, that was a laughable situation. I don't get the appeal with that song. I'm like, this song doesn't even make any sense. They're just saying the same stuff. I think you're just watching something unfold that you can't believe that you're actually. You're watching the world collapse in front of you

when you're watching those two. It's like the scuronious two white guys. Just paint. I will say it's like, it's it's like it's like the mori side show ball that's like the mori povich show but like two thousand twigs the fast forward to two thousand twenty one yeah like they're fighting over some girl that they they got you both are the father you both are the father? I go live on your island

Anyway, I was super impressed I agree with Joel and and I hope she does come back on I thought it was just fascinating. I'm sure she has infinite stories and Yeah, just so surprising like it's so fun when you get those ones. I was like, oh, Joel It's gonna be like the Miley Cyrus one like maybe I'll skip I like them. No, I like them both you can't skip I love the Miley Cyrus All right, let's jump over to Chuck. I can't say his last name and I I'm a big fan of his writing to Polonik knew it. I don't know. Palette. Palette. I got a fuck sh**. Yeah.

Oh. I mean, you know, if Fight Club isn't one of the best movies of the night, is it the 90s? I think the best movies of all time. Would you not? Yeah, it's one of the best. I'd say it's up, too. It's definitely up there.

You know, obviously you get right into book censorship and like censorship in general, like this guy's not going to like that. I don't know how they go on to miss the hands again. Like why do we have to keep talking about this? Like Joe mentioned this like last month, I'm like, dude, can we... No. I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, you're big fan of

That guy's like miss that guy's upbringing took so off that guy's situation with his father too Mmm, that's crazy that story of how's that So what was the the she he was dating somebody and the what ex boyfriend had like molested her Correct, but she had so she's putting him back in jail, which she had met him in jail Just to clear up she met this one dude in jail got him out of jail. This dude molested her daughter Then she met Chuck's dad. Yeah. And then she tried to put the other guy back into the jail. And that guy came back and murdered Chuck's dad.

Yeah, shot him, right? And the stomacher. He told her to. He just below the lungs. He's obviously a crazy dude, but man You wonder where these thoughts and these things to stimulate because and the way that he was describing how he writes to I think you probably made no To this like he's a guy love to take people all the way To a spot and then rip the rug right off of underneath him And I'm like I want right like I wonder how much of that is dictated on your upbringing. Because even you think that I'm thinking what's popping in my head

right now is the Brad Pitt moment where he is shot in the whole movie like comes to that moment and then like right at the end and he's shot he's killed himself and he's like oh shit then see that one coming at all like after all the things all the buildings are exploding and what not you're like oh man it's like I'm even like reminiscing that moment right now I'm almost like oh taking a back because he was like yeah now Edward Noan didn't actually die right you just kind of like shot out the side of his face. Yeah. His like cheek, but it was like symbol at the killing time.

And then yeah, that movie was so wild. I need to watch it, I love that movie so much. It was so nuts. Yeah. And Brad Pitt, it's definitely my favorite movie with him. And he has some really good Edward not be foreign or destroy that movie. No, it's this all all good of everything came together well Oh for sure for sure

It he said that he got his uh cods read like those tarot cards or what I've ever done Yeah, and they wouldn't tell him what they were like, but there was like multiple experiences with that too It wasn't just tarot cards. It was like a psychic and some other shit. It was like oh, yeah, yeah, three different things that all Coins cited that were they were just they were I don't want to tell you Yeah, I can't tell you like Imagine what you would say. You'd be like, hey, tell me. I paid you to tell me, motherfucker, but I don't know. I don't know if I want to hear.

Yeah, maybe they were busy and just needed to get out of that. They were like, all right, well, we have your money and I've got an appointment. I don't want to tell you about you killed dogs when you're 40s. I don't know. I don't know what the worst thing you could say is but could you believe I couldn't even really understand the fact that he built that castle. He was he's like on my own. I built a castle out of grind and he's just saying he kept bringing more dirt and kept bringing it. And I was like, wow, that's sustainable. Didn't he say it was in his 70s?

How is that even possible? Dude, he looks like a stud. Yeah, for sure. But still, that's an impressive, that's an impressive thing to pull out. He's saying, bring the kids over from the community. And they all like hang out and do all these like themed parties and stuff.

He sounds like a... Yeah, do a Halloween. Yeah, it's like fun to have him in the neighborhood. Mm-hmm. Oh, for sure. For sure. No doubt. Where do you think, uh...

And he all... And he does sound like he works out a lot, because he said that he did Royds in the past. Right. And then obviously Rogan's done him. Then he told the story that, uh... Some doc to tell him, the steroids make your dick bigger. and then obviously Rogan's done them. Then he told the story that some doctor told him that steroids make your dick bigger. I think that's a dangerous thing

to say on Rogan's podcast. I think if spreading that kind of... Does it fit? I'm not saying it's not true or true or whatever, but he was like, yeah, that's what the doctor told. I've always heard the one thing. I've always heard it do the exact opposite. Is what that was narrative I need my whole life now? Yeah, I don't know I mean I think it shrunk your bowls because it like is doing something crazy

We get testosterone, but yeah who knows Imagine if that was like studied and found to be sure would you would you would you ever do it? Sarah's I've never done the serenades. Oh, I I've done serenades yeah I did them when I was young yeah you get super strong and big really fast but you got a you have to come off them right I mean this was like early 2000s so I don't even know where they came from like Afghanistan I got those Pfizer-roids now You're right And well, you know technically I think you can get them from your doctor now for the most part

But it's got or at least test also I'm just trying to be open mind I'm just trying to be open minded because everybody's like off All the things you put in your body you won't get the vaccine I'm like all right Well if we're gonna do that then I guess we'll just ski open minded to steroids to it. I mean, let's give that a shot What are we doing? Let's just let's find some battery acid see if we can throw in my body Get really What's the age that you think you would do it if you if you were going to like 50? I don't know

I don't know then unless I felt like I don't even know what I would at what moment I would feel like I would need it to be honest. I feel great, but I mean Jacco just released a video where some people that like I Guess they're they're like youtubers that like we'll check out big people and it like the rock and others and be like YouTubers that like we'll check out big people and like the rock and others and be like try and figure out if they're on Some of it and joker did a part about it and he was like no, I'm not I mean He's just such a big guy for his age that right. He goes. I've never tried him. I never I never have just never did a pre workout and way protein I've never tried not that I'm against anybody trying anything to be honest do anything you want but I just have it. It's interesting that I haven't two of all the things I've never tried it. Not that I'm against anybody trying anything to be honest, do anything you want, but I just have it. It's interesting that I have it too

of all the things I've done, like doing cocaine and doing drugs and doing a lot of things I've done in my life. Why was like, I wouldn't, when he talked about it too, he's like, it's interesting how people have that association that you try all these other things, but he won't try steroids. I'm like, that's fair. Do you have, like, a stagmo, but do you have, like,

I just, something against you? I just always think that it was just never- Well, the way that I train, I always like to be able to, because I've had a few instances, and it sounds kind of douchey, but where people have approached me, I've been like, what are you on? And I'm like, I'm not on steroids.

And I had a guy ask me like, want to have lunch with me one time and sat me down. He's like, hey man, I heard you're the guy. And I was like, what are you talking about? I didn't know where I was. I said a restaurant. I was like, and he was like, I heard you're the guy that gets the stuff.

And I was like, what stuff? And he was like, steroids. And I was like, no, I didn't. It kind of, it's like, you were like, it's like, it's kind of like, you look at too much. That's what that's not. It was flattering, but at the the same time I was like, no, I've never done it. I was like I appreciate it, but And it's like a compliment You look really good bro. Cheers. It's like I heard you the guy

with the ruins so Well, I'll tell you what like people that were on it When I knew back in the day when I was lifting they'd get real mad if you like accused them of it and they're on it. It was like you know because people see it's like a cheat code like oh you're not really that big. That's a scene must be on something and it makes a mad. That's a silly perception that. From that I mean it's like yeah you are taking stuff you're putting that stuff in your butt there's a reason that you're getting bigger than all of us like coincide yeah, right coincide shape of course

So hey well one thing that Joe said that when he took him I think one time was for an injury and it does Speed up the recovery and injuries which might actually be a good thing, so that's probably a good time to Consider yeah, you know if you have a bad tear on your knee or something with covering in injuries, which might actually be a good thing. Right. So that's probably a good time to consider it. Yeah. You know, if you have a bad tear on your knee or something and like you're trying to rehabilitate yourself, it's not about that. That might not be a bad move. I mean, in testosterone, I feel like anything that I'm lacking in at the moment, but I don't know.

Would you? I don't know. I'd get it. I don't know, dude you? I don't know. I don't know, dude. Why don't you get to 60? It's hard to build muscle. It's so much harder than it's going to get a lot more difficult. And if there's ways to mitigate it,

then I don't know. I guess it would be nice if they did legalize more of them so there were more studies into it and you could find the best Set up for what you want to do, you know Like you would know what the healthiest doses are and like you could do it with a doctor What would you I'm sure there will be ways of doing it? Gotcha, would you consider not to go? Never want to come back to the vaccine, but would you consider the vaccine at this point, a steroid for your immune system when you're talking about

that at the Cassia of it, wouldn't you say that that's the same? Well, a steroid is technically like an actual compound, so it's not that, but if you're saying, is it a boost for your immune system or... Shooting more... You know, is it a boost for your immune system or is it something that that's generally what vaccines are in a sense, like, I suppose to boost your immune system against the particular thing that you're getting, at least that's the idea, right? Whether it works like that, you know, with every vaccine who knows.

Let's jump over to Rob Kerney, the bodybuilder. Like this guy. Glad that he was back on. Yeah, he's cool. He's like a, he's a really positive sounding guy. Bad, what do you say, tours by himself? For his bicep. One ball going this guy. Tor. Buddy, yeah.

Yeah, tours by himself. One ball. Dude, when he told that story, Torch is back. One bowl. Dude, when he told that story at 29, I'm 10 years older than him, I'm thinking to myself, I don't even know if I would have gone to get a test to even think that at 29. I don't know, he was... Maybe you could feel it though, if you could feel something in that. You might get a hint. He described it as like that shooting pain up into a stomach and that was like all right it

would have taken a serious pain but of whom I his world's strongest man he's that was some pain I'm sure oh for sure you know must what what did he say that he was lifting when he tours by except like 400 pounds or something more than I remember so much weight like above his head I think oh yeah yeah

it was the overhead press. That's right What a terrible one to do it unbelievable Right Never that you could imagine not only injure your arm, but then it would like full on your head It's interesting having those like we had a similar frame of reference Remember that guy that you saw work as a bar. We worked that that came in Magnus Magnus What what was his name? Oh, Martin Martin Luterteckos

Martin's nicest guys in the world, too. Like he was oh so nice shout out to Martin. Yeah, like yeah I like I like hanging out with him. I because he always wrote those giant electric bikes around Venice and Santa Monica Sidekick he was like the big dog with this little Iranian buddy that hung her out Yeah, it's like really skinny friend It didn't lift any weights. Yeah, my team's a great guy. I love hanging out with that guy So it seemed like it had some eat two giant burgers every time he'd come in fully loaded plus bacon. That's how he rolled

No, I'm out of that guy. No, I'm out of that guy. No, I'm out of that. Yeah. Well, they were saying that Martins has like really good range of motion. Like he's super flexible with his legs, which is really unusual.

And what is unusual about him, Martins is he's, who is so young when he won World Strongest Man. Like usually they're older when they get that kind of power, but my teens has been able to do it. How old was he? Real. Young. I don't know, man.

I think he was in his 20s when he won. I remember where it. Which is super unusual. He won the Arnold Classic, the one they do. I think it was on the pier actually in Santa Monica. And then the next year, he was talking to me about training for the World Strongest and that's when he won it. He was year, he was talking to me about training for the world strongest, and that's when he won it.

He was pretty sure he was going to too. You probably need that mindset though, because it's so intense. I remember work. But he said all the lifters are really close. They get on well, they all encourage each other. Like it's a cool community of sports. He's like we're moving rocks and throwing big stuff

Yeah, the primal thought of it was pretty indicative Dude some of the stuff they do is so insane. It's incredible that a human being can do that I mean They're barely humans because they're so massive, but it's pretty insane didn't didn't they say that they use smelling so Before competition and now Joe wants to get some of like this might be a bad idea It's like if the strongest in the most effective Yeah, not a imagine if imagine if that was the thing that brings down the Rogan Empire He just gets addicted to rock was like I don't really use those ones just like get those once Yeah, get those now. Oh

man hilarious It was that dude that dude was Incredibly smart to and articulate, you know, I mean, it's got to be the things that he was talking about, DL with me and one of the biggest dude and I think his Instagram handle was world strongest gay. It's like he just owns it and is a champion because of it. Yeah, well they did, you know, they obviously talked

about a homophobia. And like, you know, did you notice a lot of that growing up in Arizona? Is there a lot of homophobia? Not really, but at the same time, I don't really really remember any experiences experiencing it either. I think that I, it's, I don't know. I would definitely. Yeah, growing up in England wasn't really like that. We didn't wear, at least where I lived. I lived in the West country near Bristol and they, it was never an issue. Like people, I think I've just always known gay people growing up and so it was just, you know, it was just regular,

like every day life. It wasn't really until I moved to New Mexico when I was 13 back in, was that like 1997? And you know, it took, there's a lot more religion there. So people kind of have a different type of thinking. And that's when I started to notice, I remember I had this buddy, this cowboy buddy from Texas that was like always arguing with me about how it's just wrong. And I'm like, do you even know any gay people?

And he's like, no. He goes, I wouldn't want to. I'm like, why? What are you talking about? Like, what? How do you, how can you dislike something that you don't even know anyone that, it was just strange to me.

I was like, all right, dude. I feel like growing up in Arizona, I probably had some kind of stigma of, it wasn't the norm, you know what I mean? But at the same time I never really I never felt some kind of way and I wasn't like driven to feel some kind of way I grew up in the Christian Church But they didn't really like I don't really remember them like harping on that as a thing. I think that's kind of just Case in time. I don't know

but I think that's kind of just case in time. I don't know. But. Well, I mean, that was a tough thing for him when he went to, where did he say it was? Like Ghana? Somewhere in Africa. Yeah, he couldn't. And it was like illegal to be gay there.

There were people who have been arrested and these guys are in jail for like seven years for being gay. And you're like, yeah. So he had to make the choice about like where he wanted to go over there, but it was the first world strongest man he'd been invited to. So he felt like it was important. But now that, you know, he's a bit more well-known for this, he wouldn't go. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

Well, yeah, and he probably doesn't want to get arrested. Yeah, that's a good point It's probably not a great move to go. It seems like he's I mean he's doing well for himself I mean in all perspective terms, but He's still on the he's what he's just turned 30. He's a younger dude. So He's yes, I'm in his life. He's got a lot of power left and ahead of them. Hopefully that bicep heals up Right the rehab when you say When Joe's like where you at he's like 80% and you think 80% he was left in 400 pounds. That means he can still lift my god That's unbelievable. Where you're yeah, they kind of ended it with a bit of the um

Dave should pal controversy We haven't talked a lot about that but like He's getting a lot of pushback from the trans community. What's weird about it? I mean, I'm always gonna be pro comedy and I love Dave too. So it's a tough one because I'm like You know, he's a good caring person and he's also trying to make his laugh and he is Undeniably funny. Like even if something he says you don't like the way he did it, like he is one of the best stand-ups of all time for sure. And when you listen to it, a lot of it is like just, it just seemed to me like he had this friend that he cared about a lot.

That's there was a trans person and he stuck up for this person and they opened up for him and then the trans community like bullied her and she killed her. I can't that's the only story that's what happened. I don't know to like pick a different side. I think Joe's right. I think a lot of people just didn't watch the special one. Yeah, that's what happened. That's actually what happened. Like the way he tells it, he's like, and for David's probably, I'm thinking of myself too, like, not that I'd have to go out of my comfort zone, but I can't tell you that I have any trans friends personally. I would be more than happy to, but I'm telling you, it's probably for him to have the whole controversy and everything that went down and then we're heading to step out of his like not to praise him or whatever

you like you're stepping out of your bubbly like all right well I'm gonna go ahead and interact and I'm gonna have an experience in trying to develop my own perspective on this on this situation which he did and not to like again not to praise him but and then he comes out and tells a story and it's like a backlash it's just like did you guys watch it? Because he's talking about somebody's life here. He's not I Don't know and so I appreciate I mean it probably makes him more mad in a sense because Right that came down is the same hate that came down on and which caused their death

How powerful it caused your death death you know right if her life wasn't you know full of enough challenges you got she has to take that from her own community like it must have been brutal for her imagine what she was going through and I think that's the story he was trying to convey I know that story is trying to convey. That's what it came across. Yeah, I don't know, man. Makes me sad. It's like fair play to Netflix for standing up for you know, and plenty of different places are, but I think it's just, it's just more of the same. It's just showing the power of council culture and at the end of the day, I think really all anyone can do is as an

individual just kind of take a stand against it. Say no, freedom of speech and freedoms are important and allowing people to have their freedom allowed the trans movement to gain as much momentum as I agree. I agree. Which good for them? I do want to say that I appreciate Joe kind of pushing back on the narrative whenever Rob brought up. I'm still in a quandary when it comes to our people that are one gender allowed to participate

in another gender sport. I know it doesn't come, but we've had this conversation before and I'm doing this because How can a man go to a woman's sport and say is a woman and then dominate? It's like I'm defending that side It's like you don't see it the other way. You don't see a woman coming over the man side and dominating a sport It's like yeah, I don't think that it doesn't seem to kind of. So he's in fair. It's like that just doesn't seem fair. Yeah, especially with fighting, right? Power like, I don't understand how it's like, you're going to come in and

who are we to just as a man? I'm not defending that. Like I just doesn't make sense to me. I don't get it. I defend the other side. I defend the other side. If you want to do that and come on this and become a man, like do that, I'm all forward.

It just doesn't seem like it seems like you got the short and the stick on that one. Yeah. I don't know. Well, maybe it would work with like ballet. Yeah. Jim Brown's date. For woman became a mat, like they could win the male gymnastics

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