Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 289 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Eddie Bravo Et al.

Episode Date: September 14, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pero ¿cómo es posible que sean las tres de la tarde? ¿Qué lleves casi una hora de atascote? ¿Qué de todo el camino por delante? ¿Y tú estas ahí dan tranquila a tus cosas? ¿Cómo si te deseo todo igual? ¿Cómo es posible? Vamos. Que tú vas a trabajar no estás lleno, ¿no? ¿A dónde vas tú tan contenta? ¿Eh?
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Starting point is 00:01:36 And they're not a sponsor. I just like it. We like it. I'm a fan. I'm a fan, but me too, buddy. Right. It's, yeah, I guess in a way it was like a heavy Jiu-Jitsu week, but Eddie Brother didn't talk too much Jiu-Jitsu.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Which is good. He didn't talk much Jiu-Jitsu. He talked a lot about some other stuff, though. He won't, yeah. He went off the rails. I love that guy. He, not for Eddie. That was like really toned down Eddie. Honestly. Like, he's, he's just a conspiracy theory guy. He, not for Eddie. That was like really toned down Eddie, honestly.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Dude, he's just a conspiracy theory guy. That's, he loves it. He doesn't believe things, he doesn't trust things. And those people have had a huge bump after COVID for sure. I mean, if that's not created some mistrust, that's got people worked up. I mean, obviously Eddie wasn't into it. One thing that he said that I thought was interesting is,
Starting point is 00:02:30 you know, if it was so bad, like everyone that trained Jiu-Jitsu would have died, or a lot of them, like you're rubbing yourself against somebody else while trying to submit them. You can't be closer to somebody. And you're all training with each other and it wasn't like they were mass deaths
Starting point is 00:02:48 throughout the Jiu-Jitsu community. And people of all ages do Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah, and you're saying this because most Jiu-Jitsu folks did not take the Vax. No, but it wouldn't matter to you the way, right? I mean, early on they were training before the vaccine came out. Yeah, you're basically touching each other real close.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And we know that even with the vaccine, you can still transmit it to other people and catch it. So, you know, it's the PCR test thing that they chatted about early on and went, they kind of went on and on about it, but changing those 40 cycles to 20 cycles, it was a bit confusing, but I think it was to do with the sensitivity of the test. Right. So just everyone was like it was popping up positive on way more tests than it should have, right? According to the guy who created the PCR test, right? Yeah. Well, look, false negatives, a lot of false positives,
Starting point is 00:03:53 excuse me, false positives. I don't wanna breed into more conspiracy theories, but I knew a nurse in England, and she is like, they have the NHS there, right, which is National Health Service. She believes in healthcare, she follows the rules, she wants people to be safe, she's all about it. She's not conservative, she's not like a conspiracy theorist.
Starting point is 00:04:16 She couldn't understand why so many tests were coming back positive when most of these patients that were coming and getting tests were okay, they just were having routine tests, whatever. She was like, unlike any other types of tests that she's done, it was just like almost everybody. So then she sent off two of the tests and didn't swipe them on anyone just to see what would happen. And they came back positive as well. And that's when she was like, I don't believe in these things anymore. That's not a good sign. Anyway, I don't want to
Starting point is 00:04:54 breed into that conspiracy. I was in there, I didn't do it. This is just what someone told me, but this is like the last, she's one of the last people you'd ever think that would go on the side of thinking this stuff, some of it was bullshit. She's all in with the healthcare system. It's interesting, it's definitely interesting, and it definitely raises some eyebrows. I'm not saying I'm one way or the other, but when you hear these types of things after the fact, it's a little scary. It definitely skewed my mind a little bit after hearing about the BCR test stuff. My concern early on, especially living in Santa Monica at the time when this kicked off,
Starting point is 00:05:39 was that, okay, if it's anywhere as bad as they're saying, the homeless people are all going to start dying right away. Because I mean, okay, one, they're outside. So that's less transmission as we found out in time. But their immune systems are not good, you know, they're not eating well. It's not like they go into the gym. Like that's a tough existence for sure. God bless him. So I assumed if that was the case, there's going to be like mass homeless people death and that wasn't really happening either. I mean... Well, what got me was this Carrie Mullis, Carrie Mullis. He died in 2019, but he invented the PCR test. And he was talking about how he was on acid when he figured out how to create it.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And there's a documentary about it that we need to watch. Oh, no shit. But he was calling out Fauci for saying that the PCR test was accurate. And so, yeah, again, I'm not... Well, look at this, right? The two doctors, one that invented the PCR test and the other one that invented the mRNA vaccine technology,
Starting point is 00:06:49 both called this out in a big way. One of them almost led to Rogan being canceled, though he's hard to cancel. It's like the two guys that made the things that we were supposed to use or rely on said they don't work the way that everyone's telling us that they should work. I don't think it's unreasonable to have doubts about this whole process. That's just it.
Starting point is 00:07:17 The amount of shaming that has happened for people who were so scared of getting the shot and didn't get the shot and didn't trust the shot and they were just getting shamed over and over and over. I did it. At first, I was scared. I fell into the fear. My family, we fought. There was a lot of fights within the family for over COVID stuff and it was ridiculous
Starting point is 00:07:49 and it sucks that that happened and I've definitely had a bit of a mind shift since then, but I don't know. It's, there's nothing wrong with questioning what's happening and to get chained for questioning something is really the scary thing. I think that's the point of this is that moving forward, if this happens again and there's a different pandemic, and for people to get shamed and shadow banned on Facebook and taking off of Instagram platforms, I've got friends who have been taking off for believing
Starting point is 00:08:21 in a certain thing and mostly having to do with the vaccine, it seems like it really seems like a freedom of speech thing to me. I think that's the importance here is that information is becoming banned. Well, it's almost like we can't make our own minds up anymore. Well, if it doesn't fit a narrative that they want, that's the scary thing. It's like you have freedom until somebody's telling you there's some things of real big deal and then you've got to, without protest, potentially shut your whole life down. And you're like, wait a second, what?
Starting point is 00:08:57 And then, I don't know, man, I hope that they bring, you know, a big investigation into the Fauci thing. And I'm not saying that to catch him and put him in jail. I don't want to end that for anybody, but we should examine all the things that were said and done, all the ties that they have. So that if we face this again, we can find the problem areas, but brushing it under the rug and letting him just go
Starting point is 00:09:28 retire to his beach home without answering any questions. It's not helping anybody, right? It's like once again, politicians and people that work for the government just get away with whatever. I don't feel like that's right. They work for us. It's not right, buddy. It's not. So Eddie thinks that a bunch of buildings in the United States and what did he say? San
Starting point is 00:09:56 Francisco. Yeah. Where maybe built in by people that I didn't even understand what he was saying. Well, he was saying this gentleman, John Levy, has a YouTube channel full of videos of structures all over the world, including the United States, of structures that he claims could not have been made by the people at the time, right? So like in the 1800s, there's no way we would have had the technology to build these things. And we had, you know, people had seen these structures while they were, you know, on their way out Weston wagons, right? Yeah. But somehow that's been erased. And he was adamant about this man. He's like, make sure you watch it, Joe. Joe just kind of brushed over that. I need to watch this.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I'm going for it. I mean, I'm curious. But Joe, I think because Joe is so used to the things that Eddie says that he's like kind of better at like, sifting through when, you know, you kind of have these friends that believe in these sorts of conspiracies and sometimes shit will catch your attention. And other times you're like, oh, I know just to ignore this one. And that one seemed a little bit
Starting point is 00:11:10 like that. It was it was out of the out of the typical typical realm of conspiracies. That was on like the way out in left field. Yeah, I don't like what are we saying? There's a building in the middle of San Francisco and no one knows how it was built Surely someone would have been talking about this Yeah, and what did you understand what that Tarterian thing is I didn't remember what no Tarterian the evidence of a great mud flood and lots of structures being underground You know saying that there was a huge mud flood as recently as maybe the 1800s, and that was when everything had been buried. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Don't know. Yeah. I don't know how we wouldn't have that in the history of this. We could dig that up though. I mean, we didn't have computers back then, right? So you could technically get rid of a lot of that evidence, whether it was written down or whatnot, but it just seems so out of the, out of the f- I'm pretty sure if it was only a couple of hundred years ago, you could bury a book in mud
Starting point is 00:12:13 and then dig it up again. Well, it could be in a little, you know, tin can. I mean, what are we saying? There were like motorcycles, or like advanced technology just like Barrett and mud? Here's the thing. He he was going all over the board and I also wrote down the the whole bricks being used as batteries and Conductors and Turkmeckus Turkmenistan Has insane structures with antennas. I mean he look I mean, that's a bit more interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And I mean, and they do say the bricks conduct electricity, but okay, what can you do with that? Can you charge your house up? I don't know. It makes more sense to me that maybe the pyramids were a conductor of energy because of the type of rock that they used, right? It could have been used as if it was above these aqueducts, like they say it was, like there
Starting point is 00:13:16 was water running underneath, and that energy was then flowing up through the pyramids and creating this centrifugal force that was creating free energy. That, to me, makes more sense from some of the stuff I've seen in ancient aliens and that sort of thing, but I haven't looked into what Eddie was saying enough to even really have a clear idea of how to even talk about it because it was pretty far out there. I'll tell you, although, I wouldn't be surprised if there are ways of just kind of gathering electricity, so if you think about it, solar panel has taken it directly from the Sun, so that's one way we know.
Starting point is 00:13:56 It just basically just comes to this box, as long as it's sunny. But then the Earth itself has a lot of radiating energy. There's like the magnetosphere, you know, that's doing a lot. I could imagine we could build a machine that, you know, can just kind of pull energy, even if it's like low voltage, just from like how the earth is, you know, like generating its own energy. I don't know how you would do it, but it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility to do something like that. Well, it also doesn't seem out of the realm. I think about this a lot when it comes to energy. There's a lot of suppressed energy technologies out there, and there's enough money, you know, behind the people who run our energy system and get a lot of billions and billions of dollars
Starting point is 00:14:49 from it that they would want to suppress those types of technology. So it does make sense that it would get hidden people like Tesla being shunned and, you know, all of his papers and patents were mysteriously... Taking by the FBI. Would take him by the FBI. Right, and we haven't seen them since right mm-hmm So I get that like those types of conspiracies make sense to me but
Starting point is 00:15:15 bricks, you know being energy Some sort of energy creators is a little far-fetch look man You got to have these guys that are you are on the fringes of thinking. No, I like to think about this stuff. It's great. I could go on and on about this stuff with Eddie. I'm looking at Jonathan Levy's Harvard presentation right now about cities of wood.
Starting point is 00:15:39 We're gonna have to look into that. We'll get back to you guys. They did talk a bit about the hypocrisy of environmentalists, and especially the rich ones that have like private jets. And you and I have talked about this somewhat. That's, you got to think that, okay, so on the environmental side, it's good that people of influence are talking about it, but then they don't live anyway, I like it. They're just like you guys do it.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'll take my private jet, but also you guys resucker your cans. Yeah, there's definitely a lot of hypocrisy there, for sure. Um, I mean, yeah, but look, I don't wanna hate on people for flying around in private jets either because look, you've got a private jet, you're probably, like if you and I had a private jet, we would fly somewhere with it.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Let's be honest, let's be real. Yeah, but I mean, we then lecture other people on environmental stuff. Probably not, but I would still recycle thinking that I'm doing a service to the planet. Oh, so you just be a hypocrite in your own mind. I guess that's just maybe that's human nature, you know? Just maybe it's hard to say. It's almost like if you look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs They've somewhat self-actualized or not quite all the way but they're like they don't have any of the bottom tier
Starting point is 00:17:13 Elements to worry about they're feeling great about themselves You know, they're just focusing on giving back and doing for others and Helping people and helping the world. Well, also being ballers, so they get to do all the cool shit that they want with the time that they have. And it's like, yeah, you almost make a hypocrisy just with that setup. Do you think, let's say you had, I don't know, $50 million,
Starting point is 00:17:44 would you buy a plane because I feel like I would not. No, they do it because it's huge tax right off. Okay. So you can write it off against your company and take a loss, right? So you can actually make it seem for an entire year that your company, your LLC or whatever corporation you have. What's that a loss got it?
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah, so there's nothing. That's why they buy yards too, I get it. I don't know if you can do a yacht, you probably can. Oh, you definitely can. Yeah. But then you can get places way quicker, you're far more efficient with your time. Like, look, flying is a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And flying right now has been a mess for a good six months. Ticket prices are through the roof, not that they couldn't afford it, but flights are getting canceled, tickets switched around, it's a mess. If you can just get in your plane and go, and you've got meetings that you'll hit on time, that you close a big deal,
Starting point is 00:18:39 and you've got 700 employees, and they all get to stay at work having that job because you were able to close the deal on time. It's like Yeah, that's why they have private jets Yeah, just plant some more trees, I guess you know if you're gonna be flying around in your jet Plant some more trees that actually I you know, I don't know if that quite works, but that's better than nothing That would be really interesting I don't know if that quite works, but that's better than nothing. That would be really interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Excuse me. If some super rich celebrity was like, right, I got this private jet and then they put, they have a website with their miles and then just like by land and plant forests. Yeah, there you go. And then they also write apology letters. Like, I'm really sorry, I flew this many times this year, but here's a forest. Good for them. Eddie, Eddie is, Eddie always brings, look, you say what you want, but now we're going to
Starting point is 00:19:36 check out this, what's his name, Jonathan Levy? Jonathan Levy. Yeah, we're going to have a look. There might be something interesting there. Maybe he didn't explain it that well, but it's always good to have people on a Rogan that say wild things. And it's kind of the criticism of Rogan too. Like people get annoyed with him
Starting point is 00:19:55 because they're like, oh, you shouldn't give this person a platformer. You shouldn't even suggest that a certain thing could be a conspiracy. And it's like, why, we're just talking. Yeah, that's the beauty of it. It's the freedom of speech, baby. All right, let's jump over to Sam Moral.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Is it Moral? Merrill, Merrill. Merano, merano, reciclar is tantumano. Verano, verano, reciclar es tan tu mano Es la lata de aceitunas que te tomas a la una, la crema que se termina cuando estás en la piscina El en base de ese polo que no se recicla solo y una lata de caballa que te coves en la playa La usaré las patatas y del refresco la lata, un en base de paya y del agua La botella, como ves es muy sencillo Los en bases del verano siempre van a la amarillo
Starting point is 00:20:49 ¡Ecobranes! Sí, vamos, que tú vas a trabajar, ¿no estás, lleno? ¿No? ¿A dónde vas tú tan contenta? ¿Eh? ¿A dónde? Llega el mejor momento del año. Llegan tus vacaciones. Este uno de Julio sortió extraordinario de vacaciones de Lotería Nacional con 20 millones aún decimos. Lo terías de recuerda que juegas con responsabilidad y solo si eres mayor de edad. Sam Merrill. I like this guy. He's a very funny comedian. I've seen him. I think I saw him at the comedy store back in 2019 don't quote me on it. There was a time where a bunch of New York comics were coming in and a lot of them are pretty similar. of them are pretty similar. But he, the stuff I've seen online, he's very good. He's very, very funny guy. And again, like many of the comedians that come on Rogan, especially
Starting point is 00:21:53 for the first time, they have such a good attitude. There's like this energy that comes with makes for Kind of you know open somewhat humble like individuals Yeah, it was just it was a free flowing convo for sure. Yeah, keep your eye on that guy for sure So Burke Christchurch put a bunch of what was it? Gaporn in his merch. Yeah, that's how he knows but must have been the first time they were on tour He maybe Bert was after him. That's amazing. Yeah, that's how he knows but must have been the first time they were on tour. He maybe Bert was after him. That's amazing. I love that. But a fucking legend. Poor Sam's just trying to make a little extra dough on the road. He's not making enough money. The free drinks aren't enough. And Bert's back and putting gay porn in his merch box. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:22:43 and put in gay porn in his merch box. Perfect. Perfect. The big break for Sam was a comedy competition that he went in for that gave him a years worth of road work. When I heard that, I thought that it's such an unusual prize. I'd never heard of anything like that in comedy, but my God, that's the best thing. For a new comic that's like working his way up, that would be better than like 10 grand. Because 10 grand more than likely, a new comic would just go party with. But a year on the road, imagine the experience that he got.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Well, imagine how much better his comedy got, obviously. Oh, yeah. And he was even saying the way he how much better his comedy got, obviously. Oh, yeah. And he was even saying the way he creates is while he's on the road, he has the same mentality as Rogan. He kind of works through things with the crowd. Throw something on the wall, see what sticks. Kind of make sure the crowd is liking it.
Starting point is 00:23:39 If they don't like it, do we go back to it? Do we just take it off the bit list, you know, he seems to be creative when he's on the road. And that seems to work really well for him. Well, it just does. I mean, it can be scary at first because there's a lot of pressure. Like you're throwing in the mix. You've got all these dates to perform.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I mean, you know, if you're just an open-micro, you can take time off whenever you want. You can quit whenever you want, you can take, you can not write whenever you want. But if you're forced into like, okay, I'm headlining or opening up for others on all these dates, you can't get away from it. You have to get after that. Yeah, and you're fine to weigh then.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I mean, I think you'd have to be really unfunny to not be able to improve drastically from that. Well, and think about the, he clearly likes to drink. He was talking about drinking quite a bit. You know, who doesn't, who doesn't? But I'm sure he comes up with a lot of his standup while on the road, like when he's not on stage too. They're talking about how, you know, you don't really talk about how amazing a roller coaster was, right? The roller coaster ride was like really cool when it happened, but afterwards you're not like telling
Starting point is 00:24:58 all your buddies like, dude, that roller coaster ride was so sick. Yeah. Really, it's like, no, I got hammered and I fell in my face and broke my teeth out. And then, you know, we went to this bar and ended up back at the hotel, couldn't get in. You know, there's those types of stories are what ends up on stage. Well, that's like Steve Rinaldo's wave understanding, you know, happiness. I mean, take, for example, the hunting trip I just went on. And I come back with your brother-in-law and we get charged by a mountain line. That's fucking terrifying. In the moment, zero fun.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Believe me. Just panic and adrenaline. But afterwards, there's not only a massive relief that you want mold to death, but just the story itself, thinking back on it, you tell in me you've saw the eyes from a distance, just those green eyes, because cats don't have the same colorizes, deer or elk or bear, They're brighter, right? They're way brighter. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they were, I think they were more yellow. Yellow. Okay. Yeah. But they were bright. I mean, they were the super reflective. And that was what was weird. Because I've seen deer before, like when you drive up on them, you see those eyes and they're kind of like red.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah, and they're beady, right? I mean, I would imagine a cat's eyes are way bigger. I'm sure you could tell the difference in size, couldn't you? No, it was the way on the other end of a field. Oh, so it was like, it was this open plane and it was probably like a hundred yards away. But the color was strange. Yeah. You know, I just remember how bright it was.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Really reflective. And I'm like, huh. But then just the way it was moving, and as it's hit got bigger, I mean, look, the whole thing. Crazy. Crazy. You said you had, you were ready to shoot at this thing,
Starting point is 00:26:57 but then it ran off. I mean, no, not really. Well, I mean, you were thinking about it, weren't you? Yeah. I pulled my gun out, cocked you were thinking about it, weren't you? Yeah. I pulled my gun out and cocked it and pointed it, but are you ready? No. I hadn't even fired this gun before.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Yeah, ridiculous. Ridiculous. The whole thing, there's no way I would have hit it. No way. It could, it was coming so fast, there was no and then it just dots off to the right and as it jumped through some bushes and some things It sounded like I mean it kind of landed like a horse lands like put down. I mean that's heavy. Yeah Heavy huge pause to you. I'm sure I Huge pause, too, I'm sure. I,
Starting point is 00:27:43 whoo, that's scary, well, we get them glad you made it out, buddy. Yeah, horrifying stuff. And you're still stoked to go hunting, so there you go. You gotta keep going. That's right, you gotta get things. So all those Comanche stories will, okay, crazy. Yeah, I wrote that down.
Starting point is 00:28:00 The Comanche is basically guarding the Southwest and the border down there. And what figuring out how to ride on horses and shoot arrows from horses, I didn't realize those were the first types of Native Americans to be doing that successfully. Dude, that's right. When I was out hunting that whole day, all I thought about is like how hard it's lit, it is to live in these conditions Like all day I know that I get to come back to regular life sleeping in bed
Starting point is 00:28:31 Have some food take a shower. Yeah, while you're out there. You're like this was it for a lot of people 200 years ago 150 years ago and with way should your arrows too. Oh yeah, yeah. Talking about arrowheads that they had to make out of rock. For sure. And then battling with each other through areas. I mean, what do you know about the Native American history in Montana? I mean, I know there's the Black Feet and there's, you know, there's several tribes in Montana.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And the Black Feet, I know, there's several tribes in Montana. And the black feet, I know are the most brutal as far as, I mean, I don't think there was brutal as the command sheet, but from what I've heard, they didn't fuck around, do you? Yeah, they were notoriously cruel. It's almost like there's like a romanticism of life before the white man came here and brutalized them, which we did.
Starting point is 00:29:28 You know, say, we've like my ancestors, yours, you know, they came here, they took their land, they killed a lot of them. That's how they did it. And then a bunch of them died as smallpox. But it wasn't like it was peace on earth before we got here. Like they were warring against each other constantly. Yeah, I just wish it would have gone a different route. I wish we could have you know, came together peacefully, which I don't know if that was possible. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I wasn't there. Obviously, that's better. Obviously, that's better, but to think about... We might have to tell them, A, can you stop chopping off people's arms and legs and throwing them in the fire? But I think that's obviously a stereotype of some natives like the Comanche, who were obviously more brutal than others. I'm sure plenty were friendly and, you know, accommodating.
Starting point is 00:30:25 But I would say that the thing that I think about when I think of this planet or this earth, the Turtle Island, they call it, in native tongue, Turtle Island being North America, I would just love if the white man had more respect for the land, because I think that that's something that really was lost once we kind of conquered this area is unfortunate as it was. All the brutality that happened, we never seem to understand that the earth works with us, not we don't control it, but we seem to still to this day want to control everything. And we don't realize that mother earth
Starting point is 00:31:11 is really our kind of our savior, really, in my mind. Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. I mean, the power of progress though, is so one, it makes so much money for the people in it, that they're like, okay, well, we have to build a road from here to this other town, and then all the trade is there.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So let's get this road going. They're often not thinking, well, what's the impact of this road on all these other things? Right, well, especially back then, they weren't thinking about it that way. But I mean, well, because our impact back then wasn't as negative. Right. Now, we're so much bigger that we're just clearing out all these areas.
Starting point is 00:31:57 But it's almost like the machine is in motion now. We have whole economies to keep together. We've got seven billion people to keep alive. I also think there needs to be some reciprocity, though, with the natives. I mean, the saying acknowledging what we did, I feel like it's just like, oh, it wasn't us. It was our ancestors, but we're still connected to our ancestors. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I agree with, like, basically, we should just look at any types of communities that struggle, like inner city kids. They're a, you know, a lot of the same ethnicity and background, native communities on reservation, struggle horribly. They have a rough time. Like there's a lot of addiction in those areas and they don't have good schools and they don't have good access to things like healthcare and so on. Like it's a real struggle.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And that I don't think that that is, you know, something that we should just ignore. Even now, she'll find a way to be like, okay, it's over. You guys out. And we should be helping out the whales too. The walrus. The walrus, the walrus, the walrus whisperer. Well, that was a good point that Joe brought up because he was talking about like generally haters, people that upset you in your life. If you want to sit there and just fantasize about how you want to destroy
Starting point is 00:33:31 them, that's a waste of time. Absolutely. But he gave the example of there's potentially good hate in a weird way. It sounds like an oxymoron, but I think it's true. I liked what he said. I'd never heard or thought of an example like that, but there is. It's like a freedom fighter. It's like if there is an invading force or just some institution that you know is truly bad, right? And you've examined it from as many angles as you can. We're not talking about protesting Dave Chappelle
Starting point is 00:34:03 for Netflix, like that's not the hill you should die on, believe me. But, you know, something that is like inherently wrong that has been overlooked. Yeah, Nazis. Great point. It's always easy to go back to them, but yeah, like, go and, like... Have some hatred towards them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:21 But also, there's only so much you can do and and I think his point was stop wasting your time on so much hatred for material stuff like stuff that doesn't really matter. And material meaning like some you know being pissed off at some guy like cutting you off on the on the highway you know or you will that you know, that's not really a mystery. Sorry, sorry, not material. Um, what would that mean? Just, uh, just nonsense and bullshit. Yeah, just shit that doesn't really,
Starting point is 00:34:55 like tomorrow you can't do anything. Yeah. And imagine if you had infinite power and you let that stuff get to you, what are you gonna kill every heckle that ever heckled you, every person that ever bullied you, every person that ever ripped you off? I mean, by the time you get to the end of the year life, you know, your death count's gonna be like 50,
Starting point is 00:35:18 it's not gonna make you feel any better. You know? Yeah. But don't get me wrong, I've got mad too. I've got mad playing it. Don't you think it has a lot to do with who you surround yourself with too. I mean, you, there's plenty of people if they're complaining and upset and always bitching and moaning, it kind of, you kind of go snoop down to that level, right? It's almost like if you're hanging
Starting point is 00:35:45 out with that negativity, it's just going to keep brewing. Well, that's kind of how they ended the podcast because they were watching a video of Rogan talking on another Rogan about narcissists. That's right. And just what they are, you know, narcissistic disorders. And what it means to face it, I mean, narcissism is such a weird thing. And when you encounter it in a person, it's so damaging. It's, well, and he was pointing out that a lot of comics have that mentality, right? That kind of narcissistic view. And yeah, when they,
Starting point is 00:36:28 some of them, when they get big enough or full of themselves, I mean, I think it's easy to do when you get success, to get really fully yourself or you start doing well at things and then, you know, you start to think that you're better than other people. It's almost like the perception people have of very rich people. That same sort of thing. But I think it's still rare. I don't think that there's a large percentage of those types of people. If you talk to most people, they're not like that.
Starting point is 00:37:00 They don't go into that trap. I don't know if you need to be born like that or have a lot of trauma, but you don't see it that often But you certainly should try and stay away from it. What was that in cell narcissism? I'm gonna look that up. That was the one I kept talking about. I don't know. I don't know what that means All right, so in cell means celib. And it says it's usually a man. So a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile towards women and men
Starting point is 00:37:35 who are sexually active. So basically, someone who's celibate, who's also a narcissist, stay away from those people. I don't know man. Yeah, they're hard to spot. It's a mess. It's a mess. Anyway, let's jump over to Gordon Ryan and Moe, Jazeem.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And obviously Gordon Ryan is an absolute legend, completely unstoppable. Moe was doing the ADCC. Yeah. So he's putting that together. Good for him. I mean, that's such a great organization. We got to get more people watching that and into it. I wish people were and it got big. You know, they should just see if they can get Joe Rogan to do the commentary for it all. I mean, it sounds like. He's like. Sounds like his last one. they had an incredible turnout that they weren't really expecting.
Starting point is 00:38:27 He said he sold 10,000 tickets in a matter of like 45 minutes or a day or something. Well, Golden Ryan certainly helps because he's just a phenom. Like he's completely unstoppable. Yeah. I mean, he had to give that one guy 10 to one odds to fight him and he still won't fight him. Like what's here? What do you need to do? Like after that, what 100 to one? Like what, what do you do after that? Yeah, I think it's funny how, I mean, I have a bit of a different perspective, not coming from the MMA or jujitsu world,
Starting point is 00:39:05 bit of a different perspective, not coming from the MMA or Jujutsu World, but obviously the guy's a legend. He's won 60 fights in the last, however many, since he started, right? 60 fights, not since he started, but the last 60 he's won. He's lost a few. How many has he lost? Not many. Yeah. And not many. Yeah, and not recently. But to hear, like to hear his buddy talk about him and the
Starting point is 00:39:29 third person while he's sitting there was was a little bit strange to me. Did you notice that? Yeah. I'm like, dude, are you scared of this guy too? He's something special, man. I mean, look, he's a shit talker. It works for for him and he understands the mentality that he needs to be in to also when those fights i mean there is a huge factor there obviously i mean and he's trained in seven days a week he has that's thanks to john danahan
Starting point is 00:39:59 his trainer who lives a weird life doesn't buy pots and pans for his house and belly knows what wi-Fi is, but he trains, I mean, people all the time. Seven days a week. I mean, savage. But think about that. You watch somebody, you want to be the best at something, and then you watch this trainer that doesn't get a lot out of all of it other than recognition for being the best, you know, coach. that other than recognition for being the best, you know, coach, and he just is obsessed. And there's like levels to discipline with things. It's, it's impressive to hear. I couldn't imagine training every day, Jiu Jitsu. Well, and yeah, I mean, you'd be so sore all the time. I guess if you just work through
Starting point is 00:40:41 that every day, you just get used to it. You get a lot of injuries. Yeah. That's going to happen. I mean, Gordon was talking about not being able to, what, raise his hand over his head or something. Yeah. Well, and he's saying he couldn't sit down with his back straight. He's always hunched over because it just hurts too bad to sit up straight. But that's just like super high level elite. Did you get to, right? So don't get put off if you don't train and you want to thinking, oh, I'm going to get those sorts of injuries.
Starting point is 00:41:13 You're not going to. Okay. Well, and look, he's clearly an outlier. I mean, we, Joe talks about the book outliers. If you guys haven't read it by Malcolm Gladwell, I thought it was an amazing book. Yeah, it's really a really good book. But he's clearly not only is he training seven days a week, but he's building his own brand. He's understanding that there's way more to himself as a as a brand. He's he's creating his own brand personal brand, right? It's him. His videos are fantastic. If anyone out there is wanting to get in, did you just do,
Starting point is 00:41:48 but either you don't have a school close to you or you're, maybe you can afford it or you're intimidated by your school. If you can get someone to train with that's going to be committed like you and you get these videos, it won't be the same as going to a school, believe me, but they are very good at breaking things down. And if you can watch them and pay attention to them and really kind of study it, if you see it like a class that you have to pass with a grade in, you could get quite a lot
Starting point is 00:42:18 out of it, you know, or it could at least be a solid base for you to get the confidence you need to go to Giu-Jitsu. Hell yeah. That's great. It seems like a good starting point. Hell yeah. So what was the sickness that he had that he was sick all the time? You know, he did three weeks of fasting to get trying to get rid of it. He was eating radioactive eggs. He has some sort of stomach problem that doesn't allow him to digest food well. And for him to stay as big as he needs and physically active, it's been really difficult for him.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I mean, he said on the last Rogan he was on, he couldn't even think he just was trying not to throw up the whole time. Yeah, saying that baseline for him was the worst thing over you've ever had unreal and still achieving what he's like, imagine how well he's going to do now that he has that under control. Yeah. And he was already unstoppable. But imagine being sick all the time in your stomach and having to compete. So what was it that he figured out to get rid of that? Well, he's seen a bunch of different nutritionists and they've just worked with him with different
Starting point is 00:43:40 nutrients and eating styles and that kind of stuff. It's been a lot of trial and error, I think. Yeah, it sounds like he went to so many doctors that just had no clue. He was obviously frustrated with the amount of doctors he saw that really didn't know what to do about it. It makes sense, though. It's one of those types of things where they're like,
Starting point is 00:44:02 we don't know what pills to prescribe you, so we can't help. It's not like they're nutritionists, as well as doctors, you know. I guess you go to like allergy doctors, but I mean, even suspicious of that kind of thing. I'm like, how do they really know? I just couldn't believe after three weeks of fasting
Starting point is 00:44:22 that that wouldn't help, right? Like even that didn't help. No. I mean, it's crazy. Well, luckily, he's dedicated to what he does. He had to find a solution. It's not like he could just sit on the couch and get fat. He had things to do, torn them to the wind, people to beat.
Starting point is 00:44:42 He had to find a solution to this, and he super disciplined because of all his jujitsu. So he could just apply that to all these different eating processes. I mean, I'm not surprised that he found a way out of it. What is this book that he said, he said that he wrote a book, but I don't think he mentioned the name of the book. I know he's doing those tapes you talked about and doing the training tapes. But he also talked about building a brand book.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Do you remember that? He wrote a book? It's what he said, man. I'll look it up. Yeah, see if you can look it up, book. I'm looking right now. Gordon Ryan's narrative unit. No, that can't be yet. Maybe he's still working on it. Yeah, he doesn't
Starting point is 00:45:34 have a book yet, but there's some other uh, oh, here we go. Gordon Ryan announces book about his mindset and secrets to success. This was three weeks ago. August 20th. So he probably hasn't got close to finishing that yet. Yeah, it says he's still writing it with the help of a go straighter. So yeah, we'll let you guys know when that comes out.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah, I'd like to read that. That sounds interesting. It's cool that he's making a ton of money from those videos though, because you get to guys generally haven't been able to do that and I mean he's what it's called and say you could do like a weekend set of videos or a seminar just sell it online and make like a million dollars good that's a lot good for him yeah I wonder if he's like the richest jujitsu guy though saying that maybe, maybe Eddie Bravo, because of all his 10th planets, the schools. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Dude, he has like 150 schools, I think. I feel like Gordon, you can just tell that he's messing with people and he knows that he's being a shithead, but he kind of just laughs it off. Oh, yeah, he loves it. That's what I like about him. It's like, people are giving him so much shit, but he's really that he's being a shithead, but he kind of just laughs it off. Oh yeah, he loves it. That's what I like about him. It's like, people are giving him so much shit, but he's really, he's owning the shit. He's like, yeah, I do this because it works.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And also he beats everyone. Right, I mean, there's some ego there. There has to be, you can't. No, he's just that good. It's like, prove it. So what do you got? Who do you want me to beat? How do you want me to beat him?
Starting point is 00:47:06 And look, people don't like people who always win. So there's always gonna be haters and he talked about that, about how it doesn't matter what people are gonna say, they're always gonna talk shit no matter what you say. So you might as well be on top of it and just be hard back. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Savage. Talking about hard. Rogan got Gordon into cold plunges and Gordon hates him. I mean, who doesn't starting out, but I think Gordon really didn't like him. He's probably because of his stomach issue, like he's in enough discomfort. Why would he add more? So when he texts Rogan and Rogan gave him some shit,
Starting point is 00:47:52 yeah, he was like, don't be a pussy. But what I love about it is Rogan had his daughters friends over at his house and he was like, all right, you stay in for a minute, you get a thousand bucks. Yeah. Like that's a ridiculous thing. But also he knew how difficult it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And it was like, good luck. What was the temp at? Oh, dude, he has one of those like right at freezing. Yeah, like 38 degrees Fahrenheit. Probably 35. Yeah. Couple of degrees over like completely frozen. That's a rough minute, man.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Good for them. Also, a thousand dollars, is it? I wonder if Rogan tried out different dollar amounts, starting at a hundred and he's like, nah, no one could stay. But like a thousand is like a sweet spot. I feel like anyone would do that for a thousand bucks. I'd do it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Not everyone could though. I mean, it's almost like if you're not breathing right, if you're not really just trying to calm yourself down, I mean, you let your central nervous system take over, it's going to get you out. It's going to make you panic so much. You might not when you start. That's true. But you know they're hitting the sauna up right after that But do you think like 12-year-old kids are thinking of that they're not they're just trying to survive? Yeah, true good for them They made it and he also said $2,000 for two minutes and nobody made that
Starting point is 00:49:21 So it doesn't work all the time It's not enough Always, But I think that's awesome. That's a really cool thing. And you know, more coal plunge in, man. Like we've already got sauna on the docket, right? Dr. Ronda Patrick has talked about this for a long time. Most Rogan listeners are, you know, understanding sauna and they doing it. A lot of other people are too. It's like getting well known. I think the coal plunge is the new thing that people don't know enough about.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And I love that it's getting pushed. I love it too. We're going to get one. Let's get one. We've got a trough for the horses. That's what we need. Yeah, I'm not saying an expect. We can't afford an expensive one. Let's get a, let's just get a hole in the ground
Starting point is 00:50:09 and pour ice in it. So when's the, so when's his next fight? I didn't want it's going to be the tournament. The Abu Dhabi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the 80 CC is where it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And he's fighting that same guy with the same bet supposedly. So we're going to see maybe we'll pull it up with the studio and we'll watch it here and see what he does. But Gordon's going to crush it. I mean, if his stomach is better, I mean, I can't imagine how much kind of mental space that's freed up, probably a lot. Anyway, that is it for this week. Thank you, as always, for listening. Putting up with us.
Starting point is 00:50:48 We love you guys and tune in next week for more Rogan News info, reviews, and the rest of it. Cheers, Todd. All right, buddy. Peace out. you

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