Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 326 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Joey Diaz Et al.

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys and welcome to this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience review. Firstly, I want to give a shout out to a really good Instagram account. It does great snippet clips, little shorts of Rogan's podcast. I've been enjoying that a lot recently. It's JRE underscore specials on Instagram. Follow that play page. It's another dope one that's supporting, you know, the whole Rogan sphere. But anyway, let's get into it.
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Starting point is 00:01:04 All right. here we go. What's up? Todd, how are you today, my friend? Nice, I'm pretty good, man. Nice to see you. I keep burping. I have this like fricking super mineral bubbly water and it is, it's too many bubbles in it, bro.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Four dollar water. It's gotta be doing something good for you. Yeah, booji. It's gonna make me need a pee probably pretty soon. Who we got this week, we have Howie Mandel as a guest on Rogan. That goes great. I like him because so many people know him from TV and the talent shows and all the rest of it and make a deal.
Starting point is 00:01:41 You know that show. But it's always interesting when people don't realize that certain people on TV are, if being stand-ups forever, you know, that's really what they are. It's just like, oh, I remember him from that one movie, but you don't really know like everything behind the person. I didn't realize he was such a ledge. Yeah, Tudy's been around since, since like the, I mean, way back, right? We get into that.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Jim Brewer also, comedy legend. One of my favorite movies half baked. I mean, you gotta love that. And then, and then Joey Diaz is back. God bless his heart and he wrote a book. I can't wait to read it. God bless his heart. You gotta read Joey's book.
Starting point is 00:02:23 All right. So, how we, start with how we, I got a lot of notes here buddy. What do you got first? What's up? Well, I mean, just overall, I really liked how kind of honest and vulnerable he is. I mean, he's a big time type celebrity,
Starting point is 00:02:40 but he really talked about like his fears, worried about getting canceled, like his kind of mental troubles with things I think it's great when people talk like that because a lot of people have Those struggles, yeah, right true, but then you get these celebrities or just Instagram Social media docs that just they want to pretend they're this certain way. They're always on it. They're always brilliant. They're always perfect. Right. Which is so not likely. No, it's a lie. It's just false. And he immediately came out and was like, yeah, that's difficult. I get anxious all the
Starting point is 00:03:16 time. I'm always worried about these different things. Yeah, right off the bat. Mm-hmm. Right off the bat. Yeah. Seeing how depressed he was, he's always distracted. He hates quiet time. Yeah, you got to feel saying how depressed he was he's always distracted hates quiet time Yeah, you got a feel for the guy really I mean super successful really well liked and And still things a very very difficult for him at times. Yeah, I mean he straight up said he was balancing on a ledge all the time on a little Ledge. Yeah is how he felt That's a lot that's tough. Yeah. I mean, I actually,
Starting point is 00:03:45 I looked into it. It's, it looks like he just has adult ADHD, but there must be something else going on. I think the anxiety, there's got to be a lot of anxiety there. Well, but think about his life too. It is a lot of pressure. Yeah. Yeah. He's on TV all the time. You know, those shows are kind of like the in front of that big audience and you got to pretend. Yeah. There's just a lot of performance and yeah, there's a lot on his plate. So, you know, maybe that stuff adds to it. I liked his early day story. I mean, talking about how midsy got the comedy story and a divorce.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I didn't know that. Mm hmm. I thought that she bought it somehow, but yeah, she kind of like spikedfully took it, which is hilarious. And then, um, what was this? Yeah, she was kind of blacklisted in the comedy community by her husband. So no big acts would go there. So she was kind of forced to just really get anyone that would come in, which accidentally created this really nice training school for comedians. And they made it so much cooler on accident.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah, exactly. Like because of the spike. That's so cool. In a way, you've got to kind of feel for the husband. Maybe he was a piece of shit, but also if he wasn't, he lost the club and she turned it into what she did. So fair play to her. What a legend. Ledge. And yeah, he was kind of round at the beginning. legend. And yeah, it was kind of round at the beginning. You know, working with Mitzi, knew her then. Obviously, Joe had a great relationship with Mitzi, so it was cool for those two to kind of connect on that level. It seemed like Joe and how he knew each other, like from the comedy, but maybe not great, but they knew each other, right, from comedy circles. This wasn't like a first-time meeting. I don't and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it
Starting point is 00:05:25 and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it
Starting point is 00:05:34 and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it
Starting point is 00:05:42 and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're gonna be talking about it and we're scaring him about it. And then they get into the Elon bit about how Elon was called a species. Oh a species. Species. Yeah, that's so dumb. But it's not even a real word. Yeah, wouldn't idea. Well, what does that mean, then? You know, it's like you can't care for humans more than a table. It's weird. It's so dumb. I mean, it seemed to me from the clip that they played, that Elon obviously doesn't think Google's taking AI seriously enough, the AI security, right, and safety.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And then he's claiming that one of the owners of Google, I can't remember which, what dude is the owner of Google? It was a George. Anyway, I can't remember which, what do is the owner of Google is a George? Anyway, I can't remember his name, but one of the owners who called Ilana Spicist is now asking him like, is he saying he wants a digital God, right? He's saying that all along, Ilana is saying that all along Google has been wanting this and planning this, which is a huge statement. I don't know how you can prove that, but it just seems like sinister almost in a way.
Starting point is 00:06:55 It's like, what are you trying to do here? Like, what is their ultimate goal? Well, the scary thing to AI for me is that we don't know. It's like it's creating its own identity, right? We've seen it with chat GPT. We've seen it happen. You prompt it one thing and in all of a sudden it becomes its own beast really depending on what you prompt. And really, really that's like an amoeba in terms of life forms compared to what the full-blown sentient AI is going to be. I mean, we're watching it evolve in front of our eyes.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Like, it can wiggle around upon, and it can do a few things and, you know, eat a little bit and then poop of it and make some other amoeba kids. But right now, it's in its basic form. And yeah, it's. So, and it's growing exponentially, right? And they talk about it with this emergent properties. How some of these, these AIs are teaching themselves things that they didn't know.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So they're teaching itself a language without it being prompted. That's really bizarre. Right. Like, wow, why? What else is it doing behind the scenes that we don't even know about? Like, and this is my question,
Starting point is 00:08:08 and do they only know that it does things when it shows them? Meaning it had the information stored, and it's like programs and systems. But if it never just started speaking, what was it, learned like Bangladesh-y, right? If it never just spoke it for any reason, then it's just already has all that
Starting point is 00:08:27 somewhere. And would they know that they like looking into what it's storing in its subconscious? Who knows? We probably should. If you're just digging into everything that's on the internet, how would it not know everything? Whether it's true or not, we don't know, but how would it not know more than one language? I don't know. I don't know either. Yeah. But it's clearly already happening. Right. That's what they're calling emergent properties, which I never heard of.
Starting point is 00:08:52 That was a new term for me. Well, how is invested in that 3D hologram company? Oh, thank you. That looks cool. That stuff looks awesome. If you go to I think Jerry Companion Instagram, I think they had they had a cool post on what that Box thing looks like. It's just like this box, but you can see the person inside. You can see the crowd Yeah, well there and the other person that's being projected can see it And I think he has a great point.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I think he's right about that, that for sure, that could replace, you know, talks, where you can't make it, you know? I mean, if it was the difference between somebody that's like very old or just can't travel or for whatever reason, just can't make it to your city, and then they set one of those up. I don't think it would be that long
Starting point is 00:09:47 before people would be like, hell yeah, I'll go watch. I'll pay them by tickets and go watch something like that. Absolutely. I mean, the comedy could work with a bit of practice. We just have to get used to the technology in front of us. And yeah, could you say is it exactly the same? Well, no, but I mean, it's still them talking live, right?
Starting point is 00:10:08 It's a live feed. Imagine if they could project all the shows from the comedy mothership each night, right? So you can go watch it live in Austin, or if you can't make it live, you can have it projected to somewhere else. And like you, our little town in Bozeman just has these showings twice a week.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Dude, that place would be full up. Everyone would go watch that for sure here. You could fill it up, you know. I liked it. I liked the idea. I would love to. I thought it was cool. Yeah, to think about what other kind of applications you could have for that.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And did he say that he owned it? Is he literally going gonna get mega rich from hologram technology it said he had some stock in there didn't he didn't say how much This show is sponsored by better help It's so easy to get caught up in what everyone else needs from you and never take a moment to think about what you need from yourself and never take a moment to think about what you need from yourself. Self-care is very important folks. But when we spend all of our time giving, he can leave us feeling stretched thin and burnt out.
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Starting point is 00:11:50 com slash J R E R. Oh Joe was talking about just introduced his 13 year old to South Park. Well, she's going to be better TV for a while. Yeah. So many seasons. Imagine just imagine getting into it and like really enjoying it and realizing you have 20 seasons to watch or whatever. I don't know how many episodes they release each season. It's not a ton. It's not a ton, but it's still. That's a hell of a backlog. Yeah, but it used to be once a week back in the day, right? Now, you might be right. So, is it really like 20 episodes? So, it's a lot of, oh, dude, great.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Well, lucky. Well, I want to go back to the point you talked about how when you're this famous, you have to be on point all the time, right? And that creates a lot of pressure. Yeah, I think so. They started talking about that in Cosby, about how as he got older, maybe his shows weren't as good, he would just kind of sit there
Starting point is 00:12:49 and mumble on for a half hour, 40 minutes before he would even get into a joke. And how the old Cosby, everyone looked up to, I mean, clearly Cosby went downhill pretty fast. And once everybody found out, he was a freaking pedophile, but just my opinion, I don't know if you've seen the movie, but it's just date-rape to women, right? Okay, but...
Starting point is 00:13:10 Still bad. I'm not saying it's just that it's different. Weren't there, there were some women that were under 18 too, wasn't there? Oh, I didn't watch the documentary. I can't figure myself to do it. Either way, guys sucks. I had to stop it at the end when they started talking about what a piece of crap he is, but the point is that when you get to that point and you're that famous, you almost have
Starting point is 00:13:33 to do better every time, right? Because people expect these things. Yeah, or at least, I think with fame, it's important to like stay at least as famous as you were like there's probably nothing more scary to people Celebrities than like slipping on their fame right because then you could become that like has been washed up whatever guy or gal and That's rough. I think for their brains and The book the outliers Joe has mentioned this several times.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Have you read that book by Malcolm Gladwell? Great book. It's like the 10,000 hour rule, right? It's like the Beatles went away and started practicing a bunch in there at completely different band when they come back to Liverpool. And they just, everyone's just like, who are these people? This is insane, but I was thinking about this more when you have that already, right?
Starting point is 00:14:31 You're already such a professional at what you do. It could sometimes I would think it would get boring, almost, right? It's like you're so good at something. I equate this to graphic design. Right. It's like I could make logos all day and I've done it so many times where I've made so many magazines, right?
Starting point is 00:14:50 And it comes to a point where you just want to do something different. And a lot of these people are stuck in what they do. You can't just change career paths and go, I mean, you can, but it's almost like you're stuck. Once you're that good at something, you're At least in my mind, it seems like you're kind of
Starting point is 00:15:11 Stuck there. You're right. It'd be weird if you just open like a shoe store But maybe he wants to and he feels like he can't good point. Yeah, I mean that does happen, you know, people do get stuck in those types of things Yeah, I mean that does happen, you know people do get stuck in those types of things Yeah, I don't know It's I don't I think the idea of being a celebrity is it just sounds exhausting Just everywhere all the time people recognizing you for things I Don't think that I would like that. Well, how he says he hates it. It's gotta be a lot of pressure. Because you're gonna have off days.
Starting point is 00:15:50 You're gonna have days where you're just like, not in the mood, and you're at Starbucks, and somebody wants a picture. And then you're the asshole because you didn't take the picture. Right. And it would make that individual feel bad, because they probably are a big fan,
Starting point is 00:16:03 and they've watched you for years, and this is their one moment to meet you, but to you as the celebrity is just like fuck. I mean, Joe's talked about it like having dinner with his kids in restaurants and people just come up and be like, can I go picture bro? He's like, hey man, I'm eating with my family afterwards, yeah. But like right now I'm eating it. I'm eating food. He seems like doorknob. He seems good at it. He knows how to be a celebrity. And he's, every time I've seen him at the comedy store, interact with anybody, Joe is always super polite,
Starting point is 00:16:34 and gracious, and takes pictures and is cool. He's just always been that guy. But still, I bet that took some practice. Probably wasn't easy, you know? And he's probably had to deal with some real weirdo fans that are just like hanging out forever. And he's like, I'm gonna have to spin and kick you through a wall. I'm afraid. Or either way, I like Tauy. I hope he comes back on. I know he played at the comedy mothership right after this. I would have loved to have seen those sets. I've never seen him do stand up live, but I would be down. I bet he's
Starting point is 00:17:03 good. I'm also down. They talked right at the end there about Tom Green coming back with a podcast. Legend. That's going to be fun. How is Tom Green not had a podcast? Says he's coming back. Good.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Come back. He's a wonderfully weird individual and I respect him a lot. All right, let's jump over to Jim Brewer. Good old Jim Brewer. So what do you think of this guy? I mean, I haven't seen him in ages, right? Like, he was hilarious back in the day. I think they talked about a lot about alligators
Starting point is 00:17:47 for probably about 45 minutes. Sounds like he's having a good time down in Florida. I don't know. It seems to me like he really wants to just be off on the land on his own and do his own thing. He's kind of been out of the limelight for fucking 20 years. It seems like.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I mean, it was the last time you remember seeing Jim Brewer. Of movies, you know, he's going to go done with us and now didn't really care for that experience. It did some movies here and there, showed up. And then, yeah, I think he's just kind of laid low and done stand up and kind of lent him to that, you know. And he is a great stand up. He's very, very funny. He's wacky, dude. And it's brilliant to watch him. Yeah, maybe just Hollywood stuff, working
Starting point is 00:18:35 with producers, working with all those people, just was never his thing. And fair enough. You know, it doesn't have to be everybody's thing. Some people really lean into it, but now, I mean, look, he loved the club. How much did he have to say about the mothership? I mean, someone with as much experience in stand up is Brewer has come in to see one of his oldest best comedy friends like Rogan build this club and he's just like, dude, this thing is perfect. I mean, that's cool, you know? And I don't think they're all just kissing his ass because it's Rogan's club. I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:10 I think it really speaks to like what comedians want when they're performing. Well, they take good care of him. For sure. For sure. They take good care of him. But he seemed a little upset that he didn't go out and have burgers. Those burgers look good No, yeah, he couldn't hack it. He couldn't hang. Yeah, I don't know if you guys sold out in Rogan's Instagram But he went to a smash burger place and it made me eat two smash burgers that week That's how good that video was and I guarantee the two smash burgers I had one is good as that place It looked amazing. Oh, but yeah, they were all over the placement. They talked about hunter gatherer things and how there's this big reset happening, how
Starting point is 00:19:51 people are trying to get back to nature. I really appreciated that. And I thought about it a lot. Obviously living in Montana, there's a lot of nature around us. So it's like, it's just very comforting to have that. If you need a fricking date, or like get out of the city, get out of the traffic, whatever. He seems to really appreciate that about being down in Florida. But, you know, they talked about the Russia Ukraine story, whether or not it's real.
Starting point is 00:20:16 You know, they've been lying to us for years about weapons and mass destruction. And they went into that for a really long time. Oh, the cyber truck. Joe basically gave like the best review ever that this thing is the dopest thing you've ever seen and it's bulletproof. I thought for a while that wasn't even coming out, but maybe it's just one of those things
Starting point is 00:20:38 where they just kind of put it off. I'll tell you what though, when those things start showing up on the road, it's gonna be a game changer. I mean, we've seen pictures of it. We've seen videos of it driving around, but you wait till they start driving past you. I think it's going to just be like one of those head turners that's like, holy shit, dude. Right? People are just up in Montana shooting at it just to see how bulletproof it is. Speaking of head turners, the whole, I was cracking
Starting point is 00:21:04 up when they were talking about the little dick energy from Rome. There was just some guy who talked them, who talked, you know, maybe some artists who talked all these high ups in Rome, thinking that big dicks were brutish and scary. Yeah. So there was just, they just put little dicks on all the statues. Imagine if you were the one Roman guy that just had the big dong statue. No one else to hit, but you're just like, that's what I need.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Make sure you put that on there. Oh man. I appreciated the Todd Phillips talk about how you can't really get away with that these days. I hadn't thought about it until they brought this up about. Actually, you and I maybe have talked about this in the past about how you can't get away with an old school movie anymore, but how Todd Phillips just crushed it with old school and wedding crashers.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And what was this first one road trip? Yeah, Tom Green was in that one. Oh, really? Great, great flick. Yeah, you can't do so many of those. Step brothers. You couldn't do step brothers today, but it's so good. I mean, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Did he do hangover too? I don't know. But yeah, a lot of those movies. What about Super Bad? Is that a Todd Phillips movie? No, that's Farley Brothers. Yeah, I think that was. No, no, it's a little Apatel. Apatel.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yeah, I think that's it. A lot of those kind of similar, right? They have that like Conan Brothers type thing. Farley Brothers, yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of that similar energy, but yeah, I think we've lost. You're all, or it'd just be one of those revolution things. It just comes around again.
Starting point is 00:22:43 We need to take a break from it. Everyone gets a bit sensitive. Then we get sick of being this sensitive. Do you really think that's why though? And then we hit it again. What do you mean? I don't know if it's that we're sensitive. It's just maybe that the culture is changing enough
Starting point is 00:22:56 to where people don't think that shit's funny anymore. I don't know if it's sensitivity. It's just like in the early 2000s, that shit was hilarious. We thought it was hilarious. We thought it was funny. But I would still, if they did a movie like that today, I would think it's funny. Yeah, but that's because we're in our 40s.
Starting point is 00:23:11 True. Oh, so it's just like the new generation isn't feeling that kind of cool. Maybe. Yeah. Good point. I don't know. I can't speak for him. You know, I know a guy, Sean, does another part with me. He finds that stuff hilarious.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah. So some of them are out there. I think it's just a question of good sense of human not taking it too seriously. Mm-hmm. It's like those movies will hit on and make fun of things that I am too. And it's like, if the joke's funny, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Right. Like, great. Yeah, just don't take yourself too seriously. Well, but it's a comedy. That's the point of it. It's almost like watching horror movie and being like that, that's, that bit was scary. Too scary.
Starting point is 00:23:52 But this bit's too scary. And we, you know, we can't have too scary anymore. I don't know. I can't make sense of it, dude. I'm trying to. I'm trying to. They got into the COVID stuff a little bit. Brue was not a fan of lockdowns and was very suspicious of all this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And then they did talk about like the trap of welfare, you know, because they were giving that money away and like what it could do for people. And I think Joe was on board with kind of the universal basic income idea. Yeah, Yang's thing. And then when COVID came and he saw what was happening and heard that people weren't wanting to go back to work so they didn't lose their money and da da da. And it's like, what is what is that teaching people? You know, just like completely relying on the government for everything and it's a tricky one. But I understand what he's saying. I saw the same thing in LA. I've talked about it before. You know, I saw some of the youngest, most motivated, hardest working people I knew.
Starting point is 00:24:57 You know, they went out there, they know it's tough to make it in LA and be able to stay and live there. You know, rents high, things are expensive, holding jobs are hard, lots of people are moving there, they're vying for position all the time. So, you know, you really got a hustle to get good spots. And all of a sudden, everything shuts down, they're getting these paychecks. And nobody was, you know, when it was transitioning back into work
Starting point is 00:25:27 or you could work a little bit part time or just like all that like strong hustle energy of like being proud of working and what you're doing was just gone from a lot of these people. Yeah, it was just too long. Do you think that's the reason why no one's coming back to work still? I don't know, dude, I can't figure that one out at all.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It really doesn't make any sense. I mean, there's probably a shift. People have moved around, you know, to where they found other ways to survive during COVID and probably lent into that. Maybe it's more part-time work. So people have multiple jobs. And, you know, they're not just going back to the one.
Starting point is 00:26:04 They've got some variety, maybe they like. It's hard to say, but one thing we shouldn't, almost nobody went back to fast food. They can't get people to work there to save their lives. And maybe that just speaks to how crummy those jobs are. Yeah, well, I think with the Andrew Yangs, with Andrew Yangs' point, or Joe's point, if he was into the Andrew Yang $1,000 a month thing, is if you had more time to be creative and do the things
Starting point is 00:26:31 you want, that's a good thing, right? But it seems like what happened is that everyone just got lazy and was playing video games or watching Netflix. I mean, granted they were stuck at home and people were scared. So there's that. That's different than Maybe what it would be like if you're just getting a thousand bucks a month without a pandemic going on. I don't know. Yeah But I think at the end of the day, dude rent is just so high in so many places. There's just such a difference between rich and poor now that
Starting point is 00:26:59 It creates it really I think it just creates anxiety in people and it gives you a feeling stuck I think a lot of people may have either move back in with their parents, you know or really reduce their bills Maybe people that lived separately Now in houses where they have more roommates, you know, so they just kind of adjusted what they're in going and outgoing is. So therefore when it came back to regular life, they didn't have to take the same types of jobs. You know, they're working with a different budget.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Maybe that's part of it. Who knows, bro? Who knows? I mean, just look at what happened to you or at least me, like so many changes happened during that time. So that must have happened to a lot of people. And you make do, you just, you know, you work around it.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I'd like to think that if any good came from that, you know, a lot more people are kind of doing the work they want to do now. I hope so. I would like to believe that that's true. Who knows, you know, but maybe people aren't stuck in the same kind of crummy jobs. You know, or maybe they are, right? They still have the job they have before, but they're not at the cubicle or in the office. It became remote and the companies adopted that and now people have a lot more freedom. They can kind of... That's the coolest thing that came out of it.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I think so. Yeah. Remote work. Yeah, and there's a lot more of that now and a lot more companies are on board. I mean, I think it's leaning into this new wave of like the four day work week too. And that's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Multiple companies are adopting that. England is leaning that way. Other European countries, it's like, why the hell not? Give them three days off. Life's hard enough. Let's go to improve some stuff. I think.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah. Yeah. Well, damn. Good old Jim Bra. Right, let's jump over to Joey Diaz. Joey, Joey, Joey. It's good to see him back. He seems happy. He's written a book. What's the book called? I can't remember. Damn. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. So once again,
Starting point is 00:29:18 we're talking about CIA dosing people. Of course. Sending them into brothels. We got on a Kennedy streak there. His speeches were amazing, right? The talks are amazing. They talked about how Kennedy now, the Ted Kennedy, right? The nephew of JFK is now running for office, but man, he just can't speak well
Starting point is 00:29:45 because apparently it's from a virus that he got or a... I thought it was a vaccine injury. Or was it a vaccine injury? It's just a might- I might be speculation though. It's too bad that he can't talk better because that really is, you need to be a performer when you're talking in front of people
Starting point is 00:30:03 and you wanna be the leader of this country. It's a shame because he seems like a really smart guy. True. And it seems to be, if he runs against Biden in a primary, because I assume he's a Democrat, he's surely going to speak better than him. Let's see. Let's hope. Anyway, Joey's book is called Tremendous the life of a comedy Savage. What a great name. Nice. What a great name. So get out on Amazon now. It's like 25 bucks. That's a good deal. Go support Joey
Starting point is 00:30:36 Let's make that the top selling book in the universe Just because we can I'm doing it. I'm going one Just because we can. I'm doing it. I'm buying one. Do it. Yeah. So, Joey performed at the mother's ship, which is awesome for everyone in Austin. Hopefully he moves down there.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I don't know. He's kind of like the king of New Jersey or wherever he's from. So I don't know if he will relocate, but I'm sure I'm sure Rogan can get him down there. I mean, there's so many advantages to that, right? He's gonna meet all these other comics. He can take them on the road with them. He's kind of in the mecca of like the center of such, you know, great cities to tour in. He can be on Rogan whenever Rogan can be on his show, his podcast will get bigger It just seems like a no brainer and it's such a great city The I can't imagine it'd be long before he gets down there. Oh, you did talk about the fentanyl problem
Starting point is 00:31:35 Let's get into that. I don't think people talk about it enough and Sadly, I don't think people test for fentanyl. You gotta buy testing kits. You should. Gotta buy tests for kids. I recommend them. They can't be that much. Probably like five bucks on Amazon. Once again, Amazon. It said 100,000 people died from fentanyl last year.
Starting point is 00:31:56 100,000. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. He had some good stories about getting to his Coke dealer's house by 1 a.m. though. Oh yeah, drive me fast. Pean in a bottle. Mmdealers house by 1 a.m. No, oh yeah, drive fast. He and in a bottle. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I'm a turnt by the way. He is a savage. He's like, I put my Cuban egg roll in the bottle and just keep driving. That's unbelievable. He's just. Oh my god. He kills me, man. He kills me.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I think he's great. Okay, so the fentanyl thing, but then also, if we're going to go there, how about the Xanx thing? I had no idea. It was such a problem getting off of that stuff. I've never, I think I've had Xanx one time when I was on a plane and I just slept for like six hours coming back from Mexico. It's very addictive. Yeah, and the withdrawals are pretty nasty. You know, once you kind of get into that cycle of those sorts of pills, yeah, very difficult to get off those from what I've heard. I've never tried them. Never, never had them.
Starting point is 00:32:52 He said he was eating eight a day. My God, Joey. Eight a day, it's too many. And, you know, just that anxiety of getting on stage, what he was talking about looking out the window at the comedy store. Yeah. And there was one time where the window wasn't there. He was like coming in from a different side or something and didn't have that window to like chill out and look out before his set came on and he just had a straight up panic attack. Thought he was having a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Um, and that's when he started taking Xanax and then yeah, he's on it for like 20 years or something. My God. Yeah. It's, there's something about comics and... Being nuts. Well, yeah. And is that why, is it like, do the friends that we hang out with are they just all nuts or is just everybody on some sort
Starting point is 00:33:40 of antidepressant, antianxiety? A lot of people are on things, dude. You know, yeah. And those that aren't are probably having bouts all the time of like pretty major anxiety and you know, on and off feelings of depression and you know, people don't talk about it. You don't think it's just because it's the people
Starting point is 00:33:59 we hang out with are fun and crazy and a little bit nuts. Nuts. Yeah, I mean, you know, the nuts people are fun. That's what we like them, but there's a price to pay, you know? There's a price to pay with all that. It's hard to stay balanced and be a lunatic. I mean, talking about that, what about the gamblers that were like pissing on the floor?
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'd never even thought about that. They're just like gambling so hard that they won't go anywhere and they just pee on the floor. I was trying to think after they said that, if I ever noticed like the smell of piss when I'm like walking around casinos in Vegas, I can't think I can't remember ever thinking that. But I was wondering if I just thought back
Starting point is 00:34:45 and I was like, oh yeah, the flamingo does kind of smell a bit like piss. I wonder what's that happens. You gotta get thrown out for that immediately, right? That's not. But if you're doing it under the table, there's so many people around, clearly you're not getting caught. Yeah, you just have a kombucha bottle next to you.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Where'd you rest? But yeah, extreme gambler's, man. and caught. Yeah, you just have like a kombucha bottle next to you. Hmm, wear a dress. But yeah, extreme gamblers, man. I don't know, you ever get into gambling? No, every time I've been to Vegas, I always go to Old Vegas, which is what, free-monte street, right? And we would go to the top floor, whatever hotel that is. It's either, I think it's the nugget.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And there's those plastic horse races, 25 cent horse races. And I just sit there, because they're giving you free drinks if you gamble. Sure. And you just, I'm just putting quarters in that machine all day and pushing it in the little slot. And just watching these plastic horses going around
Starting point is 00:35:37 and betting on which horse is gonna win. That was, to me, that's the best gambling. And you'd lose like maybe 30 bucks by the end of the night. You could be there all night. Yeah. I just don't like losing money. I'm with you. I wanted to try it once to get the drinks
Starting point is 00:35:50 and a friend of mine that gave me this strategy was like go to the like, they were like the Asian machines, they're like one cent to go or something like super cheap. Why are they the Asian machines? Well they're like Chinese. It's like Chinese symbols. Oh, okay. And there's a bunch of Chinese. It's like Chinese symbols. Oh, okay. And there's a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:36:06 It's like a whole row of them. And certain times they get real busy, like people fill them up. But often, if you get the timing right, like midday or something, there's like almost no one in there. So that server has nothing to do. So they come over reluctantly
Starting point is 00:36:19 because they're like, no, you're playing these games, whatever. Tip them at 20 right away. You sit and play your like one-sent machines. And honestly, you're like these games, whatever. Tip them at 20 right away. You sit and play your like one-sent machines, and honestly, the win and loss, it's like almost no matter how fast you play, it's kind of like working out. It's not costing you much money.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And yeah, they will. They will just keep bringing your drinks. They works out pretty good. I think you had like four jack and coaxing about an hour. Yeah, I think they gave up on that experiment, but it worked. I think I put 20 bucks on black right and then one My 20 bucks back 140 bucks, right? You double your money Mm-hmm, and that was awesome
Starting point is 00:36:54 So then I tried it again, and then all my money was gone. I was like fuck this. I'm going back to the horses Rude let is a dangerous game for sure That one is good of like high reward But either way neither of us peed on the floor at any casinos Intentionally and that's in Poland. What did you think about this this? 327 people arrested for shoplifting More than 6,000 times. Oh, yeah, New York So these same people are just going in and you're not really you're getting like a misdemeanor
Starting point is 00:37:24 It sounded like they So these same people are just going in and you're not really, you're getting like a misdemeanor. It sounded like they actually pulled a real stat on it. Yeah, they just like let them go. They give them a misdemeanor. It says it's 900 bucks. They charge you 900 dollars and they can't arrest you. Oh, no, no. The 900 dollars is how much they can now steal.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Oh, yeah. Okay. So if it's like over that, then they will arrest you and they can charge you with something Then I think it becomes like maybe a felony. I don't know But yeah anything under that and it's just like put the clothes back Maybe they take your name, but you're back on the street. Okay, so 300 people arrested 6,000 times That's what is that? 10, 20 times each. They've been arrested 20 times each. Like what? And now, that's state by state though. So just in New York, they're super lenient. I'm
Starting point is 00:38:15 sure every state is like different. LA is ridiculous for that too. They're just letting people off left and right. My buddy is a cop that I asked him and he was like, yeah, we just can't do a lot. Just because they because so many people are doing it. So now they I think that they like reduce the penalty for it during COVID or like before. Strange. Yeah, it was like around that time. They just made it like, oh yeah, not as big of a deal. We can't be filling up the prisons with, you know, shoplifters, right? COVID, COVID, COVID, blah, blah, whatever. I don't know, dude, nuts. They, you can't keep releasing people like that.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I mean, look, you can't lock them up forever too, but that's a real problem. If someone's getting away with it 20 times, and was that in a year? Or was that in a period of years? I just had, I just wrote down, yeah, 327 people arrested more than 6,000 times. Yeah, I mean if that was a year Be getting arrested every other week. Well, and it's saying that people are stealing cars and are getting out the next day as well
Starting point is 00:39:15 So you'd steal a car and they're all putting them in the same spot and then yeah You know doing it again, and they just keep doing it. Shipping them off the South America. And you would have thought like cars worth thousands and thousands of dollars. You'd think that you get locked up for that. Maybe not. I don't even know. Yeah. I don't know either, but are you scared of getting old?
Starting point is 00:39:45 Because Joey is not scared of getting old. He's just scared of being the old guy at the comedy store. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to happen. Yeah. Well, what did Rogan say? He said he was scared of getting old. Well, but he was like, I want to get to 95.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Maybe you just get better and better. Right? Get better and better, you learn more, you know more, you make less mistakes, and who knows, with the way modern medicine is going? Maybe you're like, having a good old time in 95. I guess if you're not, if you're able to get out of bed without being in pain all the time,
Starting point is 00:40:22 pooping your pants. I mean, I'm gonna try to ski for as long as I can. Cool. And how long can I go? I'm gonna go 95. You think you can go to 70? Oh, yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Absolutely. That's impressive. Absolutely. It's impressive. I mean, if you're doing it every day, yeah, stay strong, wouldn't you? For sure you would. I mean, if you're doing it just in the gym, right?
Starting point is 00:40:44 If you're doing 100 pushups a day, I don't think that would stop. If you keep doing it, it doesn't seem like it would get any harder. Yeah. It's only gonna get easier if you're doing it every day. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They kind of finish up with talking about just respect for Joe,
Starting point is 00:41:06 that even though we had that TV show, he would still show up to the store every night. They'd just pay you 15 bucks, which I'm sure Rogan has never cashed because he didn't need 15 bucks, but he was just there all the time grinding. Now, what did Rogan say? He couldn't go on the road because of his TV show, he was doing a fear factor so he was kind of stuck, you
Starting point is 00:41:30 know, but he was still putting the work in. He was still up there. He would take his spots whenever he didn't bump anyone. He didn't think he was better than anyone else. You know, that's always been a problem. Traditionally, back in the day of the comedy store, you know, the big names would come in and bump everyone and kind of, you know, piss's always been a problem. Traditionally, back in the day of the comedy story, you know, the big names would come in, bump everyone, and kind of, you know, pisses off like low level comedians, but it happens. And yeah, just came in and, you know, did the grind. And Joey Diaz has a lot of respect for Joe for that.
Starting point is 00:41:59 It's like things like, you know, I feel like Joey Diaz is a nice guy. You know, people love hanging out with him, but I bet it takes like a unique character to really win him over. I mean, he's not out there looking for asshole friends. You know what I mean? Yeah, I can see that.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah. You gotta kind of love that about how those two are, for sure. Well, you gotta love that about James Brown too. That interview at the end. Dude, the interview of James Brown at the end is a must watch. Yeah. I wish we had that a clip for that. He is so, he's so high.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And he's just, it was like right after he got arrested, um, you know, with some sort of domestic physicality that happened between him and his wife, she said she wanted a divorce and then he's on the air the next day and this reporter's just grilling him and he is answering every question like a comedian and just smiling and it's a man's world baby. I mean, he's just going off the rails and everything he answers is hilarious. Dude, imagine the life that guy lived. Like unreal.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I mean, especially because you can't understand most of the shit that he says in his songs and they're still absolute bangers. Well, he's such a good dancer too. That helps. He's doing the splits, I don't know helps. He's doing the splits out of nowhere. He's all over that fucking, yeah, all over the place. Barely warms up, just drops.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And especially back then too. It's like nobody'd ever seen anything like that. Yeah, I mean, they talk about that with Cornell as well. They talked about that right at the end as well, about Chris Cornell, how it's sound garden. It was such a new sound at that time. I mean, right. No other band was really crushing it, like new sound at that time. I mean, no other band was really crushing it, like Chris Cornell at that time.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I mean, other than Nirvana, but it's a different sound. Nirvana is completely different from Sound Garden. Did he kill himself, right? He did. Now, was Sound Garden not big then? I mean, he killed himself like several years ago. It wasn't that long ago. Right. So, I don't know when their last album was, but it wasn't, it wasn't recent.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Mm-hmm. Yeah. God, that's fame, dude. That is fame. I think that's the pressures of fame, there's something that so few people can ever understand. And I'm sure if you become a famous person, there's really not any coaching that goes with that either. You know, it's probably why so many celebrities just hang out with each other
Starting point is 00:44:36 so they can be like, how fucking weird is this? Like, does this feel normal to you? They probably have those kind of talks. I feel like you wanted to know Matthew McConaughey, if you get famous. I feel like he's just the one guy that's like, hey man, come on. It was that one character you had in Daisy Confuse. It's never gone away. Yeah. He just was that guy. That's why he'd invite you into his like Malibu mansion. He probably make you some margaritas and just ease you into. Don't worry about it. We got this type of thing. So it says right here that in more than a decade,
Starting point is 00:45:11 so they hadn't they hadn't done an album since 2002. Okay. And they they came back together in 2012 and put out an album. Right. King Animal. I never, never even heard it. Yeah. Right king animal. I never never even heard it. Yeah And then what it was like six years later And he went I want to say I want to say he committed suicide. Yeah, like three or four years ago now Yeah, it doesn't seem that long. I remember Joe bringing it up on the pod and Yeah, what a shame what a shame what a legend and they they were out of Seattle too, right? Just like Nirvana. Worthy?
Starting point is 00:45:51 I mean, it was Sound Garden and Audio Slave, right? That was his other band. That was his solo career for a while. Right. Yeah, because Homeboy that was just on was the bass player, right? He was from Seattle. Yeah, and he was in both. Yeah, maybe itboy that was just on was the bass player, right? He was in both of them. Yeah, he was in both. Yeah, maybe it's something about Seattle and being in a band. That's a bad combination for your mental health
Starting point is 00:46:13 It's hard to tell but Anyway, let's call it for this week Joey Diaz your legend. We love you Go by his book everybody. It looks awesome. I can't wait to read it. And we will talk to you next week. Later.

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