Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 328 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Michio Kaku Et al.

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

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So classic. I bet if you have a bunch of those, they'd be with some money. Who knows. Well, we're starting with Michu Kaku. Then we're gonna go on a poly and if you have a bunch of those, they'd be worth some money. Who knows? Well, we're starting with Michu Kaku. Then we're gonna go on a poly, and if we have time, we will throw in Mr. Hanna See there. But it wasn't kind of a lot there. But anyway, let's get started.

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M-Cocco.org, M-K-A-K-U.ORG. Check it out, folks. What a man. Yeah, so quantum computing, using atoms. So ones and zeros to using atoms. I can't even fathom the difference. Did you see, I saw a photo of somebody holding an actual quantum computer.

Like you've got the matrix of the computer, right? It looks like a huge chandelier, which I don't really understand. It's all cooling stuff. Okay. Because it has to cool it to like almost absolute zero. On real? Because any... So heat is just vibration in atoms, basically.

Right. So, they got to stop all the vibrations. And I guess we're just not very good at making shit that cold. So, we got to build a giant chandelier. Yeah. And then the actual computer is like smaller than your hand. That doesn't even make any sense. I don't get it. Yeah. I'm trying to like, I understand it. You'll tell me the first one of these we build can

already fit in an iPhone. And it's saying it's a million times more powerful than your desktop computer now. What does what? What is that? A million times? What do you say? Meaning it's gonna crack every single code that we've ever had, so there's no secrets anymore. It just, it doesn't make sense to me though, because think of even when you make leaps in technology,

they invent the car, and then we went from horses and carriages, and now we have a car. And the car was like, I guess, a bit faster, but it wasn't like, they didn't immediately make a Tesla next to a horse and a carriage. And even that wouldn't be a million times more advanced. I just don't know if we're going to be at a handle or a jump like that. Well, it's because of Moore's Law, right?

It's saying that technology... Oh, doubles every... No, it's more than that. Moore's law is technology doubles every eight months. Okay. So, if you're talking about a carriage and a Tesla next to each other, we've gotten to that point, however many years later, hundred years. Right. Right. But technology is getting better every eight months. It's kind of exponentially. It's times better. So this exponential growth is just a straight up fucking vertical line at this point. It's pretty steep. It's unreal. Yeah. So it is unfathomable unfathomable. We're gonna need a tough one. Yeah. It's a tough

work. If we had a quantum quantum because it's so hard to understand It could save that wood correctly for us So it doesn't sound so dumb, but well, let's try not just I just want to take a second to like think though a million times It's like at some point the computers will be a million times faster like it will go from like one week We have this yeah, It's a boom. Now we can solve every problem that we ever put into it instantly. Yeah. And there's a race to get to the top.

And what do you think that just wrecks the stock market? I don't know. Like that's been growing and they always say that's the place to put your money. Those like long term, you know, S&P 500 or whatever, just stick it in there, just stand back, let it go for your life. But now we've got super, super duper computers doing it, making trades, buying things.

It's like, well, does it just figure out how to game that whole system? It like sucks all the money away from everyone instantly. We got one country, one company that built this thing and now that the most powerful thing that exists. Well, yeah, according to Mr. Kaku that whoever gets to this horse race, whoever wins this horse race,

whether it's Microsoft, Honeywell, who else IBM Google right those are your top dogs. Yeah, he's telling he's saying whoever whichever nation gets to this first will dominate the world economy Jesus so the why isn't everyone They investing in this then well, I think mean, we should be all the biggest companies are investing in it. What could you make sense of how he's claiming the Chinese are using lasers instead of electricity to create these quantum computers?

He said they're using optical means instead of electrical means. Yeah, I don't. I just don't get it. Well, I don't know what the difference would be. Don't know either. You know, I mean, if it's, okay, so what is he talking about? It's, it uses atoms, both both of the types. Right. So one is electricity. So I don't know, what is that? Electrical atoms and then photon atoms. I don't think they have the same thing.

But then you can really go into what the difference is. I think it's great though that people are going at it from different angles. Yeah, absolutely. You know, see which one works. But maybe, you know, if one, maybe doesn't need as much cooling, then that might be a huge advantage because I think that's kind of part of the problem now. But once a computer has that much knowledge at its fingertips and it can compute things that fast,

what do we not know anymore? Good question. I mean, is that just going to solve nuclear vision? You'd imagine it will solve most of the problems we can't. But we don't want to solve problems though. Well, but I mean in physics you do, they're always solving things. You know, chemistry. Medicine, that sounded cool.

The medicine thing was cool. They could like, and they could know everything right away. We're just going to know all time how to cure it. Yeah, cure that, cure cancer, cure these things. Again, it's something that is really hard to make sense of. Yeah. But listening to him talk and his excitement, I mean, the dude 76 years old, he sounds like a 40 year old man. He's so excited. Looks great too. Joe was right. I mean, he does not look like an old man. He just looks like a wizard. He is a wizard. He is a wizard. The guy was making.

What did he make in his garage? Oh, a particle accelerator at 17 years old in his mom's garage. And remember, this is before Google. I mean, he had to go to the library and get books and figure this stuff out. I hope that the one book he found was good. I mean, it's just, it's mind-boggling how smart this dude is. I want to read this book, but I just don't know if I'll understand anything in it. But I'm sure he's made it like, you know, digestible.

I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so.

I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. Kater, primarily, right? He's not just this massive brain, he's scientists, that only talks to other scientists. He does TV shows, he talks to lots of regular people. So he has a knack for like dumbing down what's going on. And you know, I'm sure it's pretty good. I mean, Neil deGrasseys Tyson, his books are good, and they're super wild concepts, but he just makes it like, like, oh yeah, I think I get some of that.

His thoughts on chat GPT were funny. You could tell he was definitely against this idea, or basically saying that chat GPT is just a conglomeration of a bunch of different ideas that may or may not be true, right? Cause it's just taking stuff from the internet. Yeah, he definitely made it. He definitely seemed less impressive without than most people I'm hearing. Cause he's so smart. Yeah, he's just like, oh, it just plagiarizes you, right? I mean, it's not that impressive. It just plagiarizes. And as a professor, you could see his angle, right? His angle as a professor

of like all these kids are just using it to cheat. Yeah. Yeah. God, so many people are right now. Oh, but this whole non-privacy, right? Joe talks about it a lot of having no privacy in the future. And this quantum computer idea is going to create that right away.

Yeah. Right? I mean, we're already looking into everybody's data is going to create that right away. You. Right? I mean, we're already looking into everybody's data and all this. We pretty much have no privacy already. But now, I mean, I think the scarier part is that the CIA is going to get hacked. Their computers are going to get hacked.

That may or may not be happening, or maybe some people can do that now, but it's not going to be prevalent. Like it will be with quantum computers. They're going to know so much information, be able to crack all these codes. I don't know what that means. Well, look, if you, if any company ever makes this, like let's say you're the first one that's made one that's fully functional, right? Does, does everything right? And you get it online. Do you think you're telling anyone before you're like, okay, real quick, connect it to the internet and be

like, steal all of the information and then make it 20 an hour long documentary that I can watch that tells me all the craziest shit that people don't know about. Wow. It would just do it instantly. And you know some dude will just sit there and be like, okay, mind blown. And then tell everybody that he has it. Right, so what does that mean for the company that does it first? Because it's common.

Yeah. Well, the government should all do them. See what I can do. Science fiction come into life real quick. I think that's the point should order them. See what I can hold on. This is science fiction coming to life real quick. I think that's the point of this one. It's so wild that we can't even imagine what's gonna happen. And I don't, I just have this feeling

that these big jumps forward. We're still like biological creatures with like their emotions and we're still, you know, struggling with thoughts and processes from tribal days. That's why we all need to go run and work out, even though honestly, we don't need to do any of that to survive.

It's just like we have to. And now all of a sudden we have these super computers and this crazy AI stuff. And it's like, I don't know if we're ready for that. Yeah, but it's inevitable. When AI becomes sentient, well, you'd imagine those computers could figure that out, right?

Yeah, if it does, I don't see how it couldn't. If it's already, if chat GPT's already, passing the bar exam and already knows different languages, if you're not even prompting it to do so and it's figuring that out. And you're talking about a computer a million times smarter than the ones we're using right now, which had GPD. Well, it is, it's how? The weird question is this.

Once, let's say it gets sentient and has access to quantum computers so it can figure anything out. And then it just gets a prompt to make a smarter version of itself. And that one makes a smarter version of itself and that just keeps going. I mean, it would just keep figuring it out. Until what? Till we're all worshiping this thing. I just hope it keeps working for us, you know.

I mean, he was very positive about it all. And he didn't really bring up much doom and gloom in the area of quantum computing. So I'm hoping that it's that, but I'm way too dumb to know. He would know better. So I'm, I'm quite, I'm quite happy that he's pretty positive about. It is nice, but he also seems like a very positive, excited dude. I don't think there's many negative thoughts rolling around in Michio's head. He doesn't have time for negativity. Yeah, but he's also a smart enough guy to know the dangers of things. Well, he certainly was scared and questioning what's going to happen when robots become smarter

than monkeys, and they know who they are. Oh, yeah. Right? Because like a dog, that was interesting. He talks about dogs, we're the top dog. So dog just, they don't think we're a dog, but they just know that we're the alpha dog. We're a judge.

Right? Monkeys can think for themselves. Yeah. They can, they can be more curious. They know that, that we're not the top dog, is that? Maybe, I think they just look at us like a different tribe of monkeys. Yeah, they're intelligent enough to know that we're just a different kind of When I lived in Sri Lanka There was a monkey that hung out in my back garden in one of the big tall coconut trees

And I used to go out there in the morning sometimes with my cup of coffee and it would throw stones at me Right just little pebbles and mess with you Yeah, and there were no stones in the tree at the top of a tree. So he or her took those stones up there and I swear to God, it would wait for me to come out there and throw it. So yeah, they weren't that bothered by me.

Little asshole monkey that monkey was. I'll tell you what, if you are a big fan of monkeys and then you interact with them, you will learn they are assholes. They're not as cute as they look. They are. Trisky. Real pain in the ass. Trisky little critters. Yeah, basically that's what we go to do. We got to watch out when the AI is monkey smart because then it's going to throw some rocks at you. And on that kind of same thought pattern,

what about bringing a Neanderthal child back? Do you have to keep it in a cage like a monkey? Yeah, that's a weird one too. That was a weird one. Because technically, right, is it a different species? Or is it the same? It's like a different thing, but they said that it could breed with humans.

And I thought what makes something of different species is they can't breed with each other. But maybe that's not true because lines and tigers can make ligas, right? As long as they can. Yeah, that's real. Settle down to polio. But it's true. But it's true. And they're definitely different species. Fucking love ligars. So good. How good is that? What is it? power and magic? Yeah. So good. So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

I guess we just, we just make him a famous person and try and teach him stuff and see what gets on. Yeah. And yeah, it's just, it's so crazy to think about a computer that's a million times faster. I don't know. I was interesting to hear Joe asking Michio and he didn't seem that thrilled by it because he's just so much smarter than everyone on this planet. But when they're talking about the Mycelium network and how trees talk to each other underground and how

you know there's this network of communication happening between plants that we don't even really know about. What happens if that just becomes a thing with humans because we're just going to know everything? Like is that where telepathie starts? Yeah. You know what I mean? Telepathy? Telepathy, excuse me. I mean, if we know that much information and it's at our fingertips and all of a sudden we're linked with, you know, a neural link in our head and it's that smart, we are not, we're no longer human. Yeah. Well, we we we would have to disengage

imagine this podcast We're talking about a show that we love right to other people that enjoy Rogan show and just want to be like yeah, what the fuck happened on that episode? How do we make sense of any of this what was interesting? What wasn't if our brains brains are connected, we can't even have this conversation. It's just happening already. That's too much information. Do that. It would be strange. It would just be, how do you shut that off? Imagine if we just, maybe it's a window we're not supposed to look into, like even the very best of us, when we're connected to someone else's brain, all you see is their worst, darkest thoughts.

And then we have this really skewed perception on humanity. Well, I've heard about that when people have a near death experience, like if they're hovering over their body, they, I've had one person in particular tell me that the experience they had was that they could, they knew what everyone's thoughts were in the room. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. And I've heard this not specifically other than this one

person, but I've heard this in other stories of when people have a near death experience and they're floating above their body or they can see themselves in the hospital bed. They can hear the thoughts of other people around them. Like they just know what everybody's thinking. That's weird. You haven't you haven't heard of that?

I don't think so. I've just heard of them like there's been, you know, accounts of people floating up and being able to see things that they wouldn't have been able to see that sort of stuff. Right. But just having this psychic power. That's wild. And yeah, this nostalgia for simple times that we seem to be having, how much worse is that going to get? Well, look at that big E-song they made with

Nas lyrics. Again, oh, he plays it for Michio. Yeah, but like, for example, we were looking at the the AI Rogan podcast earlier. And you were like, oh, that's clearly AI and it's clunky and blah, blah, blah. But again, it's brand new. It's only gonna get past its version. That freaking B.I.G. song was like spot on. It's good. It sounds exactly like it.

It flows nicely. Yeah, I heard a Drake one too. That was good. We're doing that can be done already. Yeah, the cadence and that seem to be more like his rap, right? Instead of biggies. Yeah, 100% it was. Yeah, but it was like definitely in the style of B.I.G.

If someone just played that for you, you wouldn't know that that wasn't a biggie song. Yeah, unless you were a huge fan and you're like, wait a second, this is Nass lyrics. Yeah, or if Biggie was still alive today and that came out tomorrow, you wouldn't know the difference. Kind of like when that Drake song came out

a month ago or so, and they still don't know who did it. And they're not sure if maybe it was something that the music company did, just to kind of test things out and see what would happen. That was the room where I heard. Yeah. I mean, who has the rights to it? That's the thing.

I don't know. I mean, there has to be some things coming out for rights. There's going to be a lot of lawsuits with that. Because you can't just make your own Taylor Swift album, right? Well, AI can, but yeah, what about that? But I do get sued if you don't know. If you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know. So, I'm gonna get sued if you don't know.

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Right, they don't create life. Because none of the forces are a little bit off. Nothing's stable. so it's just like gases and floating particles that don't that aren't stabilized so you it doesn't create anything right just does nothing clouds of universes that last for billions of years and we might be one of the very few and then on top of that within the universe where life actually worked we seem like we're some of the very few doing that

too. Right. It's like holy shit, how lucky is existence. But if there's infinite universes, we just don't know about the other ones yet. But he's saying it's just that the calculation seems to be that we are a very almost, I mean, we're a miracle. Right. That we're even here. Yeah, and but according to him and there's still probably a

Shit ton of ones that have life But way more if you can't even say that about infinity I don't think you can because if something's infinite then it's infinite right, but a bigger proportion of the infinity is dead Universes I think is what he was trying to say right because it needs to be so there needs to be Perfection in order for us to create a stable universe that we actually can live on well There's like narrow parameters for sure, but it but it was interesting to hear it's not just like distance from the Sun Right, there's so many other things that go into the protons have to be stabilized and that you in order to make life Yeah, like the force of gravity can't be different right so many other things that go into it, the protons have to be stabilized in order to make life.

Yeah, like the force of gravity can't be different. Right. Or else it'd be too hot or too cold. So there's like, I think there's like a bunch of forces in the universe. There's like magnet, like. The death star. Yeah, that is.

Yeah. So I don't know what they are, but gravity's one magnetism Nuclear forces the it is like all these different forces, right and they have to be in just the exact Parameters we got for things to kind of congeal and then make atoms if it's too strong everything gets crushed If it's not strong enough everything floats away. That's that sort of thing so everything is crushed if it's not strong enough, everything floats away, that's the sort of thing. So pretty cool, man. And this whole God calculation is book before this new quantum computing book, talking about the God calculation or the

God equation, right? A quest for a theory of everything. I would like to read about that. Yeah. I haven't read that book. It'd be cool though. You could watch how Michio Kaku explains the God equation on YouTube. Big Think is a really cool website. If you guys have checked it out, bigthink.org. Oh, the last thing I want to talk about the Plonk Energy. Oh, yes.

So that's like the ultimate energy. You didn't really talk about how much energy it was, but it's like all of the energy is what it sounds like. And then you literally boil space and time. That was so trippy. And then it makes new universes. It's like holy shit. Does that mean one day we could have like a universe factory

where we're just making universes? I don't know why we would. That one was hard to grasp. Sitting here, he's saying that there's so much energy. You would just boil the atoms. The energy in front of us. The energy is the empty space. And creates its own universe.

And a big bubble. Unreal. Yeah. How do they know that if you did that, it wouldn't just like make a universe that expands into our universe and just like smashes everything out of the way. I don't know, man. I don't know. I mean, I think about this was proposed. It says it was proposed in 1899 by physicist Max Plunk PLA and CK. L-A-N-C-K.

Yeah. And oh, and then the one step up from the atomic quantum computers could be the nuclear computers. Yeah, if you work on something. You're computing on nucleus. On the nucleus. Yeah, so basically we make quantum computers, and then one of the first questions is figure out how to make a nuclear computer.

And then it does that right away, because it's so smart. And then we're like, questions is figure out how to make a nuclear computer and then it does that right away because it's so smart. And then we're like, oh Jesus. Unreal. And then we're the type three civilization. Yeah. In a couple of weeks. Wow. Well, I'll be nice if they solve some problems.

I'll be pretty dope. This one definitely worth getting into, even though it's so hard to understand, but it's just, it's such a science fiction type conversation, but this is actually happening. It's actually real. Yeah. So I would definitely recommend this one. And we're already trying to bring back

prehistoric creatures. Yeah, but let's not bring back in the end of thought. That's just weird. Yeah, I don't know about that, man. I don't know. We could have in the end of the fall. That's just weird. Yeah, I don't know about that man I don't know we could have in the end of the thought island might be fun Good vacation spot All right, let's jump over to Polly Shaw Polly the we saw We saw what he do

What a legend what a nice guy to what a sweetheart you can tell is a sweetheart. He just he cares He's been around forever too, forever. He cares. He made a bunch of pretty classic movies, I would say. The jury one was brilliant. In Sino Man. In Sino Man was fantastic. Fantastic.

That was, that's a cult classic. So good. Bio-dom. That was off the hook. What was the one where he went out to the farm was in the army now or something to or something? That was a bit but he like went to a farm. Yeah, I think that might have been that might have been his last movie for a while Hmm. I think it I don't think that one rated very well Well, that might have sent him into a bit of a depression. I've got a feeling that

Eventually that character needed to be retired because he was 100% the same in every movie. But it was a great character. Oh, it was wonderful, but it only lasts so long. Yeah. And then you didn't see him forever. Yeah. Yeah, good run. It's nice to see him coming back and he's doing,

he's been doing stand up for a long time. I mean, obviously since he was 17, but he's, even when I was thinking he just came back to doing stand up, but it's been a long time. I mean, obviously, since he was 17, but he's even when I was thinking he just came back to doing stand up, but it's been a lot longer. Yeah, he's stuck out at the whole time. Yeah. I mean, growing up with Mitzi in the comedy store, I mean, you know, getting Coke off Sam canison when he's like 17. Right. And on his on the top of his fish tank, it's so worth a fish tank. He does have a new film, The Guest House. They talked about that. I want to watch that.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Support Paulie Schoell, go watch his movie. It was cool to hear his perspectives on his mother, his dad. Obviously, had a really good relationship with his dad. Seems like the relationship with his mother was more of a conflict. I think she was really hard on him.

She was hard on everyone. Yeah. But it was part of her magic, I think. That's how she got people to perform their best. Yeah, because she's taking you into deep water and getting you to do well and she was probably just hard on everyone. But yeah, there was a lot of love there. Joe and Paulie had a moment that was really quite beautiful.

Like Joe kind of teared up for a minute, talking about her and she just meant of fucked onto a lot of comedians. Yeah, dude. I mean, his bar, his bar at the mother ship is named after her, Misty's. Mitzy. Mitzy, sorry.

Yeah, Mitzy. Right. It's a dope bar too. So I wanted to mention, because right at the beginning, I had not known about the mental health, I guess, problems that Reagan was trying to fix by just getting rid of all of the, and don't quote me on this, but they talked about how in the 80s, there would just ended

up being a bunch of homeless people out on the streets and they were all mental patients because they got rid of a lot of these institutions where there were people with mental disabilities were living in. Yeah, it was a big problem. And it hasn't really changed. They just cut the funding and basically release these people into the street. They need help. You know, I think they say like 1% of people are schizophrenic and I and some of them I'm sure can manage it and live in life, but some can't. And they

that's not really their fault, right? If you're born into having schizophrenia, it's like they should get help for that. Well, it just goes back to this idea that we have enough money to help people, but for whatever reason our tax dollars go to other things that make our government money rather than actually helping people. So, you know, I don't know the solution there, but it seems that we could get rid of no one wants a bunch of homeless people around. I feel like people are compassionate enough to be, want to help them. I know clearly many people have a huge problem with giving people money for food stamps and things like that. It's kind of along those lines, right? We're just trying to help people. But I think at the end of the day, if you see the benefits of it, and instead, these organizations where just a few people are making a shit

ton of money, I mean, that seems to be the problem in California, right? You've got these top dogs who are creating these centers for homeless people and there's like three or four CEOs that are making bank and the money is just going to them rather than the actual problem and getting these people in housing and stuff. That does sound like a huge conflict of interest. Right. I mean, I like to think that I'm a nice kind person, but if my entire job, where I got paid up ton of money and it was the only job I had, and probably the only thing I was qualified for, was something that if I did it really well,

I would put myself out of work, You might not do it so well. Right. You know, not making excuses for them, it's still bullshit, but you can see why it exists. It's completely reasonable to believe that that's happening to some degree. It's like they just wanna put band-aids on all the problems

and then make sure that they happen next year. Right, but in Austin, didn't they put a bunch of people in, Joe's talked about this several times't they put a bunch of people in Joe's talked about this several times? They put a bunch of homeless people in hotels that were empty because of COVID, and that seemed to work really well. Yeah, well, they had better systems for it. That same, I think it was the mayor when he came on though. He was talking about, yeah, we could do it because our problem hadn't got too big. Well, they've gotten California is like unmanageable. Like they're kind of fucked now. Yeah.

And it's like good luck. Yeah. It's sad stuff. It seems like a problem that could be fixed with a little bit more dedication, right? Mm-hmm. But who knows? What was Paulie talking about?

He has like a kind of like a self-help group that he works out in or a therapy group. Yeah, he said he's been in some sort of men's group or therapy group therapy. I don't know if it's just men. Yeah, good for him. Since he was 17. How cool would that be to show up to one of those and Polly Shulls fucking hanging out? Yeah. That's probably great for the people in that those groups. You could just tell he's a caring dude. Right. And he's struggled a lot with his mental

health, I think. Well, he, I mean, he even had he said it on Rogan, beautiful things to say to Rogan about Rogan stand up. And I'm sure a lot of people say that to Rogan, but Polly really knows stand up in terms of the quality and what to look for. I mean, he was it by his mom's side from a, you know, baby obviously, but in the club in his teen years. So he's seen everyone. So for that compliment to come to Rogan, it probably meant a great deal to Rogan. That's really cool. Absolutely. Well, and he's been coming. He starred. What was it two months ago or a month ago? He's been at the comedy store. Er, excuse me at the mother ship. Yeah, so I'm sure their relationship is gonna grow

immensely because of this this new club. No doubt. I did like that also you know obviously the comedy store was his mom's club and he's been very connected to all these years but there definitely wasn't any energy like, oh, you know, the mothership can't be better, and the comedy store is still number one, and he was very much like, oh yeah, this is like the new place, and this is awesome. Well, yeah, because he knows. He's just pro comedy.

Absolutely. Like without that bias, which is awesome. And what I'm also pro for, which they've talked about, and they've talked about several times, bring in Eddie Murphy back. Oh, come on, please. Dude, for the love of God, Eddie. Come on, Eddie.

Come back. Come back. Yeah. He was just so fucking good. I bet if he can't, I know he lives in LA, but if he contacted Rogan, and was like, I need six weeks at your place, and all the best times and everything. We have to go. We have to go. We have to go.

That happens to it. Dude, if Eddie ever does stand up again, we have to get tickets. Absolutely. It will be the biggest comedy toll of all time. He's just that funny too. I mean, God damn, that would be amazing. Raw three point. Raw three point.

How about the journey dude the Filipino dude I heard about this guy before they played a few songs. They found this Filipino guy and I'm sure many of you have heard of this before but if you haven't check it out they sorry what was the the lead singer of journey I can't think of his name right now. Gosh darn it. But he passed. And then the band Journey found this Filipino guy on YouTube who had been lip-syncing or singing, you know, karaoke to Journey songs and his voice sounds almost identical to the original singer. Oh, it's Steve Perry. Steve Perry, thank you. So I mean, in Perry has such a unique voice. I mean, Journey is an amazing band. And to hear the new guy's name is Arnell Pineda.

So Filipino. Yeah, he's a Filipino guy. Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Absolutely, I mean, they're going on world tours again because of the suit. And they sound so much like the original band. And obviously, it's nuanced and it's a little bit different, but

I mean, there's kids out there going to journey concerts that probably never even knew what journey was or who journey was. And now they're here in this guy and it's incredible. Completely revitalized that whole thing. And then they showed a new Alison Chainsinger, which I didn't even know, that was a thing. And that dude sounded exactly like the lead singer of Allison Chains as well. You'd imagine there were people out there. Didn't you say that you saw a Nirvana cover band in Austin once that was like perfect? They were so freaking good.

They even looked the same. You close your eyes and I thought I was at a Nirvana concert. That's though. And that was really fun. Obviously it wasn't a Nirvana concert. But man, just to have that, you can just pretend. And even Joe talks about with AI, how you could go see an old Hendrix.

I think they talked about that towards the end of seeing a digital version of Hendrix, putting your AI goggles on and how he'd wanna be at some like dingy old place in the 60s with muddy floors and a bunch of hippies Yeah, jump around I mean that's gonna be a real thing I think even better than that would be like a hang with them, right? Imagine you put your goggles on you're just in your front room on the couch and all of a sudden

Cocobain Elvis like everyone just materializes in front of you and you just start their old Shooting the shit having some drinks, talking, you're just chatting with them. Like, I don't know if the gap could be breached with it, with it, you being enough immersed to believe it's real. But if that came around, dude, forget all other evening activities. That would be the coolest thing to do. Just assemble the team. Yeah. I mean, people. Literally having dinner with like all the dead people from history. People aren't going to be leaving their houses, dude. It's going to be wild. I can't wait. What else did, uh,

man? What else did Paul get into? So he's still working, he's doing his comedy. Obviously that new movie, oh Nick Cage. So it sounds like Nick Cage is coming on the JRE, which I'm fucking super pumped for because that guy is a wild animal. Yeah, it sounded like him and Paul have been neighbors for a long time. You know, homies.

I thought it was called like live on the pod. Paul is like, how do people get on the show? And he's like, I don't know, they just talk to me. And he's like, okay, cool. Then I'll have Nick give you a call. Is that what he ended up saying? Or he told Joe to call Nick? Yeah, I think so.

I don't know if he'll do it. You don't think? Seems like a pretty reserve, dude. I mean, didn't he say he told Paulie when he comes to his house to not take any photos, don't tell anyone I was here, kind of thing. Right. Very private. I didn't realize he was Coppola's, what is it?

Nefue? Is it Francis Ford Coppola's Nefue? It was Nicholas Cage. He changed his name because he got sick of people, you know, thinking he only was a big time actor because of his, who his uncle was. Yeah. Let me, let me fact check that. But yeah, Paul is sure, man. What a frickin' ledge. It's good to see his mental health seems to be, he seems to be on top of his game again. Thanks to comedy and I don't know maybe this this group that he's been going to every week since he was 17. But he it just seemed like he let other people's opinions of him get to him.

Right. In the past, the last episode he was on he was just really kind of in this cycle of being really bummed he wasn't being picked from movies anymore. Right. And I think now COVID's come and gone. It's given everyone and him that chance just to kind of like, sit, reset, and realize that there are other options. There are other ways that's not the only thing, you know, he did. He seems, he seems in a much better place than when he was first on. I really kind of felt bad for him the last time he was on Rogan. I was like, oh, this poor guy is like just hoping and begging

every day that someone calls him for a movie. And it seems like he's gotten out of that negative mindset. Right. And he's like, yeah, shit, I'll do other stuff then. Yeah, you know. All right, just to go back to Cage. So I was corrected. The actor's uncle is Francis Ford Coppola. Critically, it came a claim director

From films like the godfather apocalypse now. I know come on legendary But cage changed his name from Nicholas Coppola after his feature film debuted as Brad's buddy and fast times at rich monday what a also legendary film so good., K-John, I'd be super pumped for that. For sure. Yeah, let's jump over to Hannesy. I don't know if there's much to say about this, honestly. Well, right at the beginning, the whole negativity breeding success. He obviously had a traumatic past. Yeah, that was a traumatic past. Sounds like his dad maybe was physically abusive and hard on him and they obviously didn't have a good relationship,

but he had his love of cars, thanks to his dad. I think Joe and him bonded on that for sure. Absolutely. Write it right off the start, right from the start. I mean, it's not anything we haven't heard before, but it's nice to see how someone who grew up in a traumatic family and a lot of times that breed success because you just want to prove yourself. Another nice thing about this podcast is even though these guys have known each other for a little bit, Hennessey has been very wealthy and successful for a long time. And I don't think he's paid a ton of attention to like Rogan's career, per se.

Like, no, he's done some stuff, but it was really cool to see them getting to know each other like that. So Rogan was kind of in the position of going back and replaying these events in his life that what got him to where he is. Like, when he gives the breakdown of the UFC, how he got into it, like the whole play all through the years. That was cool. You know, how gung-ho he was when they called him, they were like, I don't think Joe want to do this.

He's not going to get paid a lot. He was like, fuck it, let's go. Put me on a plane, I want to do this. Right. I mean, that story gets me pumped up, because obviously I love the UFC. Well, Anne, just to see how much it's changed, I mean, it's me pumped up because obviously I love the UFC. Well, and just to see how much it's changed.

I mean, it's it's grown exponentially. I mean, it didn't even start until 2016 UFC, right? No, it did. UFC started in 92. Yeah, but the, but the venues as far as like, I guess what I mean is by that is like, 2016 is when they got into New York City. That was the last day.

That was the note I had. Okay. Yeah. 2005 is really when it got big because of forest griffin, Stefan Bonner's fight. Okay. I read them. I read them wrong. And then also at the same time, Chuck Ladell was smashing everyone. So that was a huge jump. Then there have been other periods that were big. Ronda Rousey was a massive jump. Right. As well. Andess and Silver was a big jump because he was just basically invincible. And then really the ultimate phenom of the whole show has been Conor McGregor. I mean, he just blew that thing. Yeah. I ever now everybody wants to watch.

Blue it out of the water. The the the the talking point that I feel like needs to that I need to talk about is the riddle in part of this conversation He talks about how he was on riddle in for 26 years. Yeah, I just started taking it two years ago It's helped me immensely, but it got me thinking about you know, I don't want to be on it forever Mm-hmm And he talks about this friction that he had with his employees for such a long time in his family And he didn't even realize that it was coming from Ritalin. Damn.

26 years he was on it. Yeah, it's juice stuff. And he just felt like he was always kind of on edge and as soon as he stopped, he said he stopped cold turkey and then just started doing a cold plunge every morning. And that has completely calmed down his nerves. He's not fighting with his spouse or employees as much. And that was an eye opener for me because I feel like my anger has grown

in the last couple of years since I've been on Ritalin and maybe I haven't realized. Dude, every person I know that's on Ritalin is like they have this intensity, like intensity about them. And there is like this have this intensity, like intensity about them. And there is like this potential irritability all the time. There's an irritability thing, but the positive is way out the negatives for me

because I can concentrate so much better. Right. I really can. I mean, it's a noticeable difference when I take it. Yeah. But I don't want to be on it forever. Sure. I don't like taking pills. Well, you can practice.

And I still do the cold plunge. I do the cold plunge, you know, four or five times a week. That is definitely a huge boost of dopamine for sure. I don't usually equate it to me calming down. Yeah. But I think it just makes me feel better, which in turn probably comes me down. I think it's a more natural stimulant though. Yeah, so you're pretty good. Absolutely. I actually funny you say that I missed it all this week. For whatever

reason, I just either couldn't get out of bed in the morning to get over to the gym or something. I mean, I had COVID like what was what was that? Like a month ago, and I think it's like residual feeling a bit tired. Like mostly I'm fine, but just a little bit more tired, you know? Like I usually just can't stay in bed. Once I wake up and I'm up, and I haven't been able to, haven't got over and cold plunged. And there's a significant difference that I feel through the day. And I'm sure it's because I'm messing out on that. You got to make that non-negotiate. Yeah, non-negotiate baby next week Yeah, we got to get you back in the cold plunge Yeah, get in there. They did talk a lot about the dope cars that he's been making that super

What was it that like super freaking 1800 horsepower beast yeah Yeah, yeah. He's got a cool website. If you don't know a lot about a Hennessey and you like cars, jump on, check out that website for sure. Yeah. And then the top gear thing. The top gear thing was pretty brilliant.

It's a great show. Everyone freaking loves top gear. In England, those guys are legends, Jeremy Clarkson, I mean all of them. And they did once kind of fuck over Tesla. They wanted to make it seem like electric cars with dumb and they wanted to make this show funny and you know, make it look like it broke down so they have to push it. I remember watching that and I thought, oh shit, this isn't good for Tesla. And then when Elon got the car back, they did a diagnostics on it and they were like,

it never even ran out of battery. They could see it all. Right, they were just messing with it. Cheeky bastards. Well, that's TV for ya. It was a funny episode, but yeah, everything on TV is fake folks. Don't forget that.

Thank you guys. As always, thank you Todd. Yeah, great week. We appreciate ya. We love ya that. Thank you guys. As always, thank you Todd. Yeah, we appreciate you. We love you lots. Stay tuned for more Rogan Reviews next week. Yeah, thanks for tuning in later.